lore-discussion

[deft vessel]

This thing also has morals, but chooses to ingnore them

[hot valve]

I personally see us as animals who are just smarter and can use that gift to make the world better

[fierce pagoda]

kinda funny to think about

[hot valve]

Unfortunately we don’t live in a world where most people think to save the planet or improve it!

[real silo]

Oh man my

My sleep deprivation is catching up with me

Gn people

[hot valve]

Gn altraxia

[split mortar]

Pretty sure biologically that is the case that we just smart animals

[deft vessel]

I think its that most peoples first priority is not eco-clenliness

[untold oracle]

Gn alt

[fierce pagoda]

Goodnight!

hope you get quality sleep

[split mortar]

Goodnight altraxia

[deft vessel]

Gn

[hot valve]

Basically a fundamental, but sad thing to consider
Humans are the only animal to be aware of right and wrong and actively pick wrong

As such, humans can be considered the only animal capable of evil

[split mortar]

Hope mysterious forces aren’t throwing your bed out of your front door

[fierce pagoda]

Thats interesting to think about

but I'd rather Humans exist, than not exist at all

even if some of us are evil

[deft vessel]

Its just that a lot of people in power choose the wrong options. But the right for profit

[split mortar]

@fierce pagoda can I throw you

[untold oracle]

Why so specific..,

[fierce pagoda]

I mean, sure if you really want to

[split mortar]

Better be counting your legs

[untold oracle]

All eight thousand are where they should

[hot valve]

I do think humans have a grand potential for good
There are many things humans have done to benefit and keep animals alive

[fierce pagoda]

are gators counted as amphibians

[hot valve]

Nope

[split mortar]

Reptiles

Or lizards

Idk

[mighty zenith]

gators are anomalies

[fierce pagoda]

lol it has to be reptiles

[hot valve]

Reptiles os correct

[fierce pagoda]

hell yeah

[hot valve]

Lizards are a type of reptile

[fierce pagoda]

gators are like, crocodile lite

[hot valve]

Kind of

They’re basically just siblings

[fierce pagoda]

Even IF Crocodiles are the largest, and i obsess over the largest type of an animal, i Still chose Gators

since they are special

[hot valve]

Not literal siblings ofc

[fierce pagoda]

they do the funny deathroll

[hot valve]

So funny that instead of developing chewing over millions of years

Crocs literally just..

Still slam things into the ground LMAO

[fierce pagoda]

LOL

how strong are they

to be able to do that

[hot valve]

Very

[fiery swift]

Arent crocs just reptile at its peak?

[hot valve]

you could say dinosaurs are that

[split mortar]

What seems more effective

Harming a specific part of the body
Or
Snapping every bone of the body while they can’t tell what way is up

[fierce pagoda]

arent crocs older than dinosaurs

[fiery swift]

For the modern day

[fiery swift]

thats also true

[fierce pagoda]

what about gators

[fiery swift]

They also used to be bigger cuz why the f not

[hot valve]

I think crocs are a pretty good pick then

[hot valve]

I just was just learning about dinos and crocs

And I can’t recall exactly

They’re pretty similar in time

[fierce pagoda]

i know of a funnier one

apparently, Sharks are older than trees

[untold oracle]

Yes

[fierce pagoda]

like damn, just older than the concept of trees

[untold oracle]

Sea life was much earlier than land life

[fierce pagoda]

were there giant underwater plants

or something

[fiery swift]

Nah just some random algae probably

[fierce pagoda]

algea my beloved

[split mortar]

Giant mushrooms iirc

[fierce pagoda]

like tree sized mushrooms?

[split mortar]

Idk if they were tree big though

[fiery swift]

guys ima farm for 200 fish achivement

wish me luck

[fierce pagoda]

is this your first time ever getting it?

[fiery swift]

ye

[split mortar]

I wish for your luck stat to increase

[fiery swift]

fuck angler

[fierce pagoda]

good luck!!

use the bed

[fiery swift]

im at 25 rn

[fierce pagoda]

damn

[fiery swift]

funny thing is i have 2 of the fish finder components

[fierce pagoda]

any duplicates?

[fiery swift]

no

besides shimmer

[fierce pagoda]

ok i was just checking incase you didnt know of the shimmer trick

[fiery swift]

oh also cellphone

and also shellphone

i have both of the shell thingies

Anyways ima go fish now

[silent crane]

I call Ravager "Revenger", am I weird?

[mighty zenith]

yes

they are very different words

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[split mortar]

They mean very different things

[silent crane]

i know

[split mortar]

Yes you weird

Is it a bad or good weird? No

[fierce pagoda]

does Xeroc remind anyone else of Arceus

[silent crane]

This would be good for getfixedboi as a reference to MGR

[indigo glade]

No.

[hushed geyser]

He reminds me of zamasu

[fierce pagoda]

idk i just get the same kinda vibe from them

I think Xeroc is a lot more chill than Zamasu

worthless bum Zamasu

[hushed geyser]

[split mortar]

Zamasu wanted to kill all mortals iirc

[mighty zenith]

Yharim reminds me of Zamasu more in terms of personality

[split mortar]

(Or is it not the dragon ball character)

[silent crane]

And also, I hear Patrick scream in Open Frenzy

[split mortar]

Providence?

[fierce pagoda]

I can never get behind the Goku Black hype, because i KNOW THAT WORTHLESS BUM ZAMASU IS IN THERE

[mighty zenith]

...you got a point

[untold oracle]

He reminds me of Nameless Deity (Xeroc)

[split mortar]

NAMELESS DEITY ISNT EVEN OLD LORE XEROC ANY FUCKING MORE

[mighty zenith]

hook line and sinker

put him in the basement

[fierce pagoda]

at least Zamasu is a real god, while Providence is a mortal who became stronger that average

[silent crane]

you can't unhear that

[fierce pagoda]

once a mortal always a mortal

[split mortar]

Providence is a god?

[mighty zenith]

funny how Zamasu would actually hate Cal's gods

[fierce pagoda]

yeah but not a real one like Zamasu

[split mortar]

Kai can be killed aswell with the devious attack

[mighty zenith]

they're mortals who gained power through an outside source

[hushed geyser]

[fierce pagoda]

i meant mortal as in human and not as in opposite of immortal

[mighty zenith]

(which is also what zamasu did btw)

[fierce pagoda]

even if thats kinda what mortal is

[mighty zenith]

(i love him he's such a fucking hypocrite)

[untold oracle]

Melom gun loses it over silly

[hushed geyser]

Zamasu was a kai

[split mortar]

Learn better silly

[hushed geyser]

He was already a god

[mighty zenith]

he gained power (goku's body) from an outside source (super dragon balls)

[fierce pagoda]

I just Wish Goku black was actually Goku black, and not fucking bumass Zamasu inside Goku's body

sus as hell

[mighty zenith]

I wish Goku Black was just Turles

[fierce pagoda]

agreed

[split mortar]

Zamasu just had a crush on Goku and didn’t know how to handle it simple

[mighty zenith]

** **

[fierce pagoda]

why didnt zamasu just, ask for super shenron to make him the strongest

instead of taking Gokus body

bro was on something

[mighty zenith]

because it'd be boring

[fierce pagoda]

It would be way more interesting if it was a real evil Goku though, and not Zamasu in his body

[pliant ruin]

Cool bug facts: Crocodiles are not older than dinosaurs

Proper crocodiles first appeared in the late cretaceous

p sure anyways

everything before taht was just

Vaguely Crocodile Shaped Thing that's Not Actually a Crocodile ™️

[fierce pagoda]

but like it was their ancestors right?

[split mortar]

Yeah, but we don’t call Homo sapiens gorillas

[pliant ruin]

sometimes

[untold oracle]

Bug fact

[pliant ruin]

some of them were entirely unrelated while others were in pseudosuchia (the group that would later include croocdilians)

[untold oracle]

Haii chees

[pliant ruin]

Hii

also dinosaurs are still more sucessful than crocodilians even nowadays id say

if anything i think

crocodilians nowadays are just a very small part of what once was a much broader group (pseudosuchia)

they managed to survive several mass extinctions but for that they also lost a ton of diversity

there used to be herbivorous guys, filter-feeding whale looking guys, fully terrestrial speedy running gays

[fierce pagoda]

Dinos be getting disrespected though, now they are just meat farm animals for Humans to consume

they really took a blow in that regard

[pliant ruin]

i mean

cassowaries beat the living shit out of humans

and so do harpy eagles

[dusk laurel]

They can get shot...

[pliant ruin]

u do NOT want to mess with a harpy eagle or a cassowary

[split mortar]

And so do guns most of the time

[pliant ruin]

so can like any animal

[dusk laurel]

Trueg

[pliant ruin]

that dosent mean anything unless ur talking about like an african elephant

or a rhinoceros

or any other incredibly large thick mammal that could realistically survive a gunshot like that

[fierce pagoda]

yeah if we powerscale like that humanity is stronger than literally anything else, due to our weaponry

[pliant ruin]

crocs do still get alot of points for being some of the largest living terrestrial carnivores though

[fierce pagoda]

but like hand 2 hand were cooked

[split mortar]

Bullet resistant animals when I pull out the grenade

[pliant ruin]

unless you count elephant seals which i mean

barely count

[spring helm]

Why not

[pliant ruin]

they can go on land but i wouldn't call them

terrestrial

[fierce pagoda]

personally i think crocs and gators are cooler than any living dinosaur today

[pliant ruin]

saltwater crocodiles and polar bears are p much tied

[split mortar]

Amphibious

[fierce pagoda]

Cassowarys look too silly for me to take them seriously

[pliant ruin]

for largest terrestrial carnivores

[pliant ruin]

not even

they go on land like

once

to mate

and thats it

[split mortar]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

elephant seals actually live super deep

like

[split mortar]

Yeah nah they water guys with a land kink

[pliant ruin]

theyre some of the deepest diving mammals known

only beaten by some whales

[fierce pagoda]

bro elephant seals have that funny looking nose

haha they are so silly

[pliant ruin]

do they know...

they're silly looking but they're fucked up bruh...

[fierce pagoda]

fucked up how

like in what they do

[pliant ruin]

Yeah

Males get really, really uhm

"hormonal" during mating season

to the point they just

dgaf about anything and just

[fierce pagoda]

alr i get it

[pliant ruin]

they literally steamroll through other elephant seals to get to females 😭 sometimes they kill babies doing this

[fierce pagoda]

☹️

[pliant ruin]

they're also bigger than almost every african animal

with the sole exception of elephants

[fierce pagoda]

so are they bigger thna polar bears?

[pliant ruin]

over five times

[fierce pagoda]

WOOOOW

[mighty zenith]

oh yeah no they're gigantic

elephant seal

[split mortar]

What the genuine fuck

[fierce pagoda]

but then why dont they get called the largest land predatr?

[pliant ruin]

polar bears and saltwater crocodiles both reach a max of around 1 ton

[fierce pagoda]

is it cuz they spend too little time on land?

[pliant ruin]

elephant seals reach ~5

yeah basically

theyre barely terrestrial

they only go there to mate incredibly rarely

spend almost their entire lives underwater

[fierce pagoda]

how long can they live on land?

do they just hold their breath really well?

[split mortar]

Because they don’t go on land like at all apparently

[pliant ruin]

yeah they cna hold their breath for

incredibly long

given they dive to like

super deep areas

[fierce pagoda]

wow impressive

Cheese how do you know so much about animals

[pliant ruin]

im a nerd

[fierce pagoda]

you dont major in it?

[brave dew]

Uh because cheese comes from cows duh

[pliant ruin]

no i'm not in college yet, marine biology is one of my two main choices for college rn tho

the other one is game design

not sure which i will go with, probably whatevers most profittable lmao

[fierce pagoda]

probably game design, since it includes programming

[brave dew]

Marine biology ?

That's a jojo reference

[fierce pagoda]

and programming is popular rn

but still impressive you know that much and you dont even study for it

[pliant ruin]

zoology hyperfixation be damned!!

[fierce pagoda]

yeah right Jotaro was a marine biolgist

[pliant ruin]

had this mf since i was like

[brave dew]

I know a lot of stuff too 😒

[pliant ruin]

5 years old or something

[hot valve]

It’s true, I’m him

[pliant ruin]

hi jotaro kujo from joe joe

[brave dew]

Lier

[hot valve]

Hii sleepy cheese from Cheese’s Animal Adventure

[fierce pagoda]

i used to be super interested in animals as a kid too, but i grew out of it when i got older

[strange stump]

hi
im a priest

[brave dew]

I know stuff about mushrooms personally

[fierce pagoda]

like psychedelics?

or just fungus in general

[hot valve]

[brave dew]

I wanna be a dwarf that keeps saying mushroom... We're rich !

[brave dew]

General 😎

[pliant ruin]

the only cool fact ik about mushrooms is that they are actually closer to being animals than they are to being plants

other than that tho idk much theyre tasty ig

[brave dew]

True

[hot valve]

This is true

[fierce pagoda]

I know that the mushroom part we usually see is actually the fruit

and not the fungus itself

and also i know that there is this one colony of Mushroom that is one of the largest living things on planet earth

[brave dew]

In evolution plants and animals comes from 2 different cell and i think animal and fungus comes from the same one

That's why theyre considered closer

[fierce pagoda]

Big Fungus

[brave dew]

Yeah it's in america idr the name but i think it's like mountain mushroom shit

But it's line 3 hectars

Ot smthin big

[pliant ruin]

can i take a bit out of it

bite*

[fierce pagoda]

idk maybe its poisonous

[pliant ruin]

free food

[deft vessel]

Specific mushrooms can take over the bodies of some insects, turning them into effectively zombies.

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[brave dew]

Also i read this in a documentary but apparently psychedelic mushroom healed a guy from his stuttering

[pliant ruin]

cordyceps

[fierce pagoda]

wow

thats cool and kinda freaking amazing?

[brave dew]

Another one called turkey tail helped the mom of some random fatass heal from breast cancer

It was experimental too

[pliant ruin]

those people probably have the motto

Do Drugs!

[fierce pagoda]

Weed

[brave dew]

Fantastic Fungi is the documentary with those 2 facts btw

[hot valve]

Here’s a tip:

[deft vessel]

I think i may have seen that one

[hot valve]

You can lick any plant and you’ll be fine, even if it’s poisonous

[split mortar]

Stone fish

[hot valve]

It will not kill yoo

But that is not true for mushrooms

[fierce pagoda]

does poison taste bitter

[hot valve]

There is mushrooms you can lick and die from

[deft vessel]

Depends

[fierce pagoda]

amanita fungi

[pliant ruin]

do NOT lick mushrooms

you heard it here

[hot valve]

Actually depends on what the toxin is

[boreal portal]

@split mortar Yo bro, I updated the map like we talked about yesterday. I think some things still need fixing though

[split mortar]

Gypsy gypsy plant would not be pleasant to lick anyways

[fierce pagoda]

the mario mushroom

irl is danger

[boreal portal]

https://tenor.com/view/peep-shroom-cute-authoritative-gif-8936365

[pliant ruin]

cool bug fact #2:

[split mortar]

Deus smiting the ice biome is a canon event I swear

[hoary cape]

I have seen the Mario mushroom irl (well a mushroom that I call the Mario mushroom)

[brave dew]

Me when when when gympie gympie

[boreal portal]

ISTG

[pliant ruin]

squids can be scarier than basically any shark.

trust me on this one.

[fierce pagoda]

are squids bugs

[brave dew]

Blue ring octopus

[deft vessel]

How is this a bug fact?

[brave dew]

So cute lil pookie

[hoary cape]

Humble squids are terrifying with the sharp teeth on their suckers

[split mortar]

What are the ocean bugs called?

[brave dew]

I sure hope its not poisonous

[pliant ruin]

Blue ring octopi aren't scary i wouldn't say

as long as you don't touch it ur fine

i'm talking abt specifically

Humboldt squids

Actual most horrifying animal to exist and nobody can convince me otherwise

Like okay wtf was nature thinking with this one

[split mortar]

This seems efficient

[hoary cape]

Vampire squid look scary

[deft vessel]

Magnapinna/big fin squid

[pliant ruin]

Makes squid larger than a human
Makes it highly predatory and agressive
Gives its tentacle TEETH
Makes it hunt at night

MAKES IT HUNT IN GROUPS OF LIKE A THOUSAND

[split mortar]

WHAT

[pliant ruin]

there is a much higher chance of a humboldt squid killing you than a shark

in fact

[split mortar]

HUH

[deft vessel]

An eldrich being

[pliant ruin]

they're so notorious for their reputation

that they're literally known as Diabo Rojo (Red Devil) in some places

[fierce pagoda]

lol a vending machine has a higher yearly kill rate than Sharks

ive heard

[brave dew]

Sharks are so overrated

Booo

[hoary cape]

Sharks don't really like to attack humans

[brave dew]

Losers !!!

[split mortar]

Uhhh Go dumbo remove this horrors

[hoary cape]

That's an octopus

Dumbo octopus is based

[pliant ruin]

oh wow! what a cute little school of squids! surely they're not extremely agressive and big enough to kill a hu-

[fierce pagoda]

wow kinda freaky

[hoary cape]

Tasty calamari

[pliant ruin]

yeah so like

[fierce pagoda]

I guess ill just stay away from whatever waters they reside in

[pliant ruin]

see that image i posted?

of the 2954295259 squids in the dark water?

yeah anyways they're that big

[split mortar]

Imagine if the answer is yes

[fierce pagoda]

Now im Curious to see what they taste

i want to eat one now

[hoary cape]

Imagine if they were the size of giant squids or colossal squids

[pliant ruin]

Humdbolt squids aren't even comercially hunted specifically because of how much of a struggle it is iirc

Like

nobody looks at those fuckers and go "yeah i wanna fish that"

they just goi for literally any other squid 😭

[fierce pagoda]

so if they are sold, they are probably expensive`?

[strange stump]

have yall ever tried to stab yourselves in the heart with one of the nails that pierced jesus christ?

[hoary cape]

Humboldt squid but 50ft long

[pliant ruin]

the good thing about giant/colossal squids

[fierce pagoda]

I want to taste one, just for the message

[pliant ruin]

is while

realistically

they could absolutely fuck a human up and probably would if they could

they thankfully live way too deep to ever be dangerous, really

[fierce pagoda]

no matter how notorious or dangerous you are, you're still just food for humans

[pliant ruin]

Bigfin squids are funny

They look all ahhhh!! ahhh alien ahh

[mighty zenith]

me when i stab myself so I can fight asshole dracula

[pliant ruin]

and then you realize theyre paper thin and eat the deep sea equivalent of dust

[fierce pagoda]

how come he's so close to one if they are aggressive? isnt he scared

[deft vessel]

I feel like they invested too many skill points into leg lenght.

[fierce pagoda]

lmao

it looks like hes touching it on the image though

get yer fingers off me!!

[pliant ruin]

i kneel to all the divers and marine biologists that documment and study these guys

id never

horrifying

[deft vessel]

Vampire squids are neat

[pliant ruin]

vampire squids are cute

[fierce pagoda]

what now

[strange stump]

its a really weird feeling, let me tell you

[pliant ruin]

vamp squid

[mighty zenith]

they look horrifying and they're also fucking enigmatic

[fierce pagoda]

I mean, scariest animal of all, its da humans

[pliant ruin]

when they were first discovered biologists though they were vampiric

[mighty zenith]

like we know barely anything bout them

[fierce pagoda]

they are scary in a whole different way from other animals

[pliant ruin]

turns out they just eat sea dust

[pliant ruin]

yeah but thats a boring answer smh,,,

just like hippos

[fierce pagoda]

lol

what about mosquitos

one sting, boom

[pliant ruin]

if u say hippos are the scariest animal tahts a boring answer,,,

[fierce pagoda]

malaria

[pliant ruin]

wabungus

[mighty zenith]

btw wanna know their name in polish

[pliant ruin]

vamp squids are so funny looking

[pliant ruin]

sure

[fierce pagoda]

they look like an umbrella

[mighty zenith]

hellish vampire (specifically wampirzyca a.k.a female vampire)

[pliant ruin]

i love their stupid little flaps that look like ears

[pliant ruin]

HELLISH VAMPIRE WOMAN

beautiful name

[split mortar]

Big cat ears

[deft vessel]

I like the teeth on the bottom

[pliant ruin]

Here's this thing

blanket octopus

only the females look cool like that the males are boring unfortunately

[fierce pagoda]

Scariest animals ever are Seagulls when they are chasing you all around the place

[strange stump]

ha nice

[fierce pagoda]

real fear in my heart when seagulls chase me

[pliant ruin]

frigates

like seagulls but eviler

[split mortar]

Ok subnautica

[pliant ruin]

Yeah.

[split mortar]

Is submautica accurate?

[deft vessel]

I still want to see some more footage on the colossal squid

[fierce pagoda]

I seena video of a fisherman, who caught a seagull out in the sea, then he proceeds to grab it, and rip its head clean off, very smoothly at that

kinda freaky

[deft vessel]

Only footage of them is one hugging a ship

[mighty zenith]

what the fuck

[fierce pagoda]

one second its alive and fluttering, next its not alive anymore

[pliant ruin]

idk maybe if aliens are real

[mighty zenith]

what the actual fuck

[pliant ruin]

also yeah you didnt need to say that

[split mortar]

(Talking about is it good at doing fish biology)

[fierce pagoda]

he was hunting them, and was showing a technique to get the stomach out without having to filet it

he later fed his entire family with it

[pliant ruin]

i mean not really but

[fierce pagoda]

and two others he caught later

[pliant ruin]

thats excusable bc theyre not fish theyre aliens

and the game is heavily stylized

[deft vessel]

Alien fish

[pliant ruin]

oh he was hunting seagulls

thats a new one

i thought he just

GRR GRR I HATE THIS BIRD G RR STUPID BIRD

[fierce pagoda]

he wasnt a mad man just slaying seagulls

[mighty zenith]

the way you worded made it seem like he just murdered it randomly

[pliant ruin]

YEAH

LMAO

[fierce pagoda]

no he was hunting them to feed his family lmao

[mighty zenith]

that makes more sense

[pliant ruin]

yeah thats fair enough

[deft vessel]

Casually goes up to a seagul and rips its head off

[fierce pagoda]

but like, his techniqe was pretty gnarly

and it was super unexpected

[strange stump]

fatality

[split mortar]

Can we talk about stpuid bug and not seagull gore

[fierce pagoda]

have you seen how they end squids?

and they just turn white?

[pliant ruin]

stupid bug

[deft vessel]

Do yall know about the door ants

Purpose in life=door

[pliant ruin]

funky lady

[fierce pagoda]

they look very hard

do worms count as bugs

[deft vessel]

I dont think so

[fierce pagoda]

what if you found a giant earthworm under your bed

[dusk laurel]

Trilobites...

[deft vessel]

I would call the police

[split mortar]

Reminds me of the ice worm from subnautica

[pliant ruin]

trilobite beetles are funky because the females look Funky like that

and then the males are just

generic bug 299

[split mortar]

Fucking lmao

Cool ass big bug

Cringe normal bug

[fierce pagoda]

All food for me

actually idk these may be poisonous

bugs are risky

[dusk laurel]

Vampire squib...

[deft vessel]

wabugus should be added to calamity or roy

[warm gull]

THESE EXIST???????

AND NO ONE TOLD ME

WHAT THE FUCL

[pliant ruin]

waogh

they're endangered unfortunately : (

[dusk laurel]

Waowg

Sadge

[pliant ruin]

dumb girl

[dusk laurel]

Bug climb

[green bay]

This new calamity enemy has a pretty good resolution

[pliant ruin]

what's calamity

never heard of it

[hoary cape]

That's such a crazy difference

[pliant ruin]

what the fuck

[green bay]

I think its a minecraft mod, not sure tho

[pliant ruin]

trilobite beetle plush real life

[dusk laurel]

Plushie

[deft vessel]

Everything has a plushie nowadays

[pliant ruin]

they should make a me plu- oh. right

[dusk laurel]

You are cheese

[warm gull]

trilobite beetles look like ladybug larvae

[pliant ruin]

those already exist!!!

[pliant ruin]

yeah the females are neotenic

in other words they never "leave" their larval form

thats why they look so weird

[warm gull]

neat

[light linden]

udnerworld

[mighty zenith]

stinkbug

[pliant ruin]

not stinky...

[deft vessel]

Have you smelled one?

Are you sure

[mighty zenith]

stinkybug

[mighty zenith]

what if we played tennis with the yur plush

[solar wharf]

shadow leviathan lookin ass

[fierce pagoda]

anyone know why tier 2 evil boss loot is unshimmarable until the t2 evil boss is dead?

its not like you can acquire any of the loot earlier than after the boss is dead anyways

[split mortar]

It’s like items that use bones need Skeletron to be dead

Just some funky coding things cause of like 1 or 2 outliers

[fierce pagoda]

ok, what are the outliers in this case?

i dont think there are any items made up of tier2evil materials

that you can get aerlier than the boss itself

maybe its some GFB thing

[untold oracle]

Gobers

[warm gull]

I just watched video on trilobite beetles bc they were so cool

I'm back now

[split mortar]

Probably that

[indigo glade]

Wrong.

That is not stupid bug.

[light linden]

actually

would lore or addon chat be better for talking about lore in add-ons?

[split mortar]

Idk,

[mighty zenith]

no clue

[solar wharf]

where have you found this piece of ancient scripture oh seeker of knowledge?

[mighty zenith]

i feel like prob here?

[indigo glade]

Behold.

The true Stupid Bug.

My love...

[light linden]

ok then ig

which of draedon's explanation for goozma having an auric soul do y'all prefer?

[split mortar]

No

It got resprites

[indigo glade]

Those aren't stupid bugs.

Do not speak to me the false gospel.

[deft vessel]

They still should add Wabungus

[dusk laurel]

Ombgus

[deft vessel]

All the bungi

[light linden]

@hot valve you're crazy about deep sea stuff right?

[hot valve]

Yes

[light linden]

you think an enemy based on siphonophores would make more sense on level 3 or 4 of the abyss?

[cloud ibex]

stupid bug

[indigo glade]

Stupid Bug.

❤️

[dusk laurel]

You changed.

You have become the stupid bug

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[split mortar]

To be fair they’re changing the artstyle of Roy soooo…. Going to be resprites again

[indigo glade]

Stupid.

[split mortar]

Abandoned the blue bug

Sadge

[deft vessel]

These bugs should go seek the knowledge

[hot valve]

Hmm
Probably tier 4

The Scoria theming is probably not what I’d do for siphonophore

[indigo glade]

Blue Stupid.

[light linden]

ok ty

[strange stump]

team blu vs team red

[split mortar]

Noh

[warm gull]

seeker of bugs

[warm gull]

roses are red

and violets are blue

it's I against I

and me against you

[strange stump]

lets fight

[spring helm]

the far east looks a lot like japan and russia
even got Kamachatka peninsula

[split mortar]

Oh yeah in that topic

What’s with the colours of those parts

[light linden]

still find udnerworld funny

[fierce pagoda]

if humans primarily lived underground for most of their existence

why dont they just call it the world, and then whats up above for the overworld

instead of the opposite

[dusk laurel]

Uhh, idk

[split mortar]

The sun and dragons were probably very important to culture still

And chrysadia was above even that so maybe that’s why

[fierce pagoda]

did chrysadia come before or after azafure

[split mortar]

Before

No

Fuck

[fierce pagoda]

oh

[split mortar]

Wrong word

After

[dusk laurel]

After

[fierce pagoda]

oh okay alright

[split mortar]

Azafure then chrysadia

[indigo glade]

Azafure is the first civilisation.

[dusk laurel]

Azafure is the first city

[indigo glade]

Should give a clue.

[split mortar]

Weird not seeing the fox pfp on seeker

[fierce pagoda]

okay so maybe Chrysadia just started to call it the world, and then that stuck with the rest of the surface dwellers

or something

Surface dwellers sounds like a slur the people who live in the underworld would say

[indigo glade]

Underworld is called the underworld because it is the most under you can be from the surface, and like the surface, is extremely open.

[strange stump]

wait, really?

[split mortar]

Yes

Well

[light linden]

it's the first one where farming was likely possible

sun was lethal for a long time

[split mortar]

First one not of dragons

[strange stump]

you know for how hostile it is down there, i would've expected for it to be one of the last

[dusk laurel]

Ehh, the sun was pretty hot

[split mortar]

Nah, the sun was like super cancer rays back then

Zeratros had that bitch on high power 24/7

[indigo glade]

Who cares about the demons; food is plentiful, strong materials exist and forging is easy.

[strange stump]

dayuuuuum

[split mortar]

Terrarians seem also quite heat resistant

[light linden]

still wonder why

[split mortar]

Seeing as we and the npcs can stand next to brimstone lava and not suffer any damage

[light linden]

was it because dragons couldn't handle lower temperatures?

[split mortar]

And brimstone lava is as hot

AS THE SURFACE OF THE SUN

[strange stump]

...
there's food?

[dusk laurel]

Silva

[light linden]

silva

[strange stump]

ooooooh

[split mortar]

Silva influence giving food from ceiling

[dusk laurel]

She was sealed in the abyss at that time

[strange stump]

okaaaayyyy

[dusk laurel]

Not when Yharim beat her up

[strange stump]

i like that

[indigo glade]

"The Underworld is a realm with history dating back more than a millenia when the Crags were first settled, and acts as a glance into both the modern and ancient world simultaneously. Prior to my joining of Yharim’s forces, Azafure was the center of scientific advancement in this world. Explosives, firearms, smithing techniques, and even entire schools of magic have roots in the city. It is doubtless that the city has been largely aided by the fact that forging is trivial in the Underworld, along with an abundance of food due to Silva’s essence dripping down from the Abyss above. Due to this, it has prospered even with the occasional attack from Demons."

Thank you, past Draedon, for precisely explaining why Azafure was such a good place to live.

[fierce pagoda]

does anyone have any theories on who put the ceasless void in the dungeon

[dusk laurel]

Dragons maybe

[split mortar]

Dungeon was built around it

I think

[fierce pagoda]

dungeon was built around it? is that theory or real

[split mortar]

I heard some people say it so it’s prob dev statement

[dusk laurel]

Dev statement iirc

[fierce pagoda]

waow

so dragons may have een the one to build the dungeon

[split mortar]

Dragon cult is related to dungeon so probably

[fierce pagoda]

does that mean the duneon soul tomfoolery wre also caused by the dragons?

[split mortar]

The soul stuff is prob from ceaseless

Though we have no confirmation

[fierce pagoda]

that would have some pretty interesting implications

[split mortar]

I think Rebecca had said “there’s a reason the dungeon fucks with souls” and we know dog eats what is essentially god souls

So I think the portal to another dimension is prob effecting souls

[fierce pagoda]

in the future CV is gonna act as a portal to the distortion yes, like a physical portal the player can interact with

i wonder what would happen

if you dug out the entire dungeon

would the portal just float there

[split mortar]

Yes

[split mortar]

I hope so

[fierce pagoda]

wow thats kinda sad when i think about it

theres no way to fix the dungeon if the curse is caused by the portal

and i assume we wont be able to remove the CV from the dungeon either

the souls that are already stuck in the dungeon are going to be trapped there forever

[split mortar]

Not only that

Most of plantera souls get dragged to the dungeon iirc

[fierce pagoda]

WHAT

right

they get fucking pulled there

[split mortar]

So the afterlife is probably the distortion for 99% of life

[fierce pagoda]

The CV sucks souls in

to feed noxus soul power

[split mortar]

If cv is the cause of the soul sucking

[fierce pagoda]

yeah if we assume thats true

now that you mentioned that plantera souls gets pulled there, the CV soul sucking theory became a whole lot more convincing

i should maybe not call the theory for that...

[split mortar]

What I think is

Cv collects normal souls, they’re attracted to cv so it only gets basic protection magic hence the seal

Dog collects god essence, something that doesn’t get dragged by cv and gods are pretty damn strong so dog is a much more imposing and strong and large force to be able to eat almost every god it can

[fierce pagoda]

yeha that makes a lot of sense

what is the seal exactly? a seal protecting the portal?

[split mortar]

I think?

The seal attacks us when we disturb cv I think so yeah I think so

[fierce pagoda]

now tell me this though, not ALL souls get sucked by cv, there are still loads of souls left in the dungoen

not to mention polterghast

but hes probably strong enoug to resist the pull

[split mortar]

Well they are what? The strongest souls even beyond god infected ones?

[fierce pagoda]

so the blue and pink souls are just the strongest of the strong peoples souls

[split mortar]

Ectoplasm is above even god infected souls and the ones in dungeon which is phantoplasm I think is much much stronger

Blue from plant

Pink from the actual dungeon souls

I think the light blue is closer to the normal colour of souls while the pink is cause of the immense long term rage of those in the dungeon

[fierce pagoda]

yeah right, ectoplasm is more powerful than Slime gods soul

or at least if we use in game scaling

[split mortar]

I’m talking about souls of light and dark

And maybe flight

Idk what’s with flight souls

[fierce pagoda]

oh so god infected souls are souls of night and light?

thats what you meant?

[split mortar]

Yeah them

They are souls of creatures infected with god essence and I think their soul is aswell

[fierce pagoda]

alright, so souls like those get sucked though CV most of the time, but the stronger souls from plantera are able to resist

[split mortar]

Yeah

[fierce pagoda]

and so are the powerful pink souls, fuled by rage

[split mortar]

Yeah that’s what I think

[fierce pagoda]

but then, what about the souls from Yharims soilders?

imm thinking the mech bosses

since they are technically alive, maybe the soul sucking doesnt work on them as intended?

[split mortar]

If ectoplasm is of angry souls then it could be their extreme loyalty and will that has let them have strong enough souls

[split mortar]

Oh yeah true draedon prob did collect them quickly

[fierce pagoda]

oh right Dreadon had to collect them first

maybe its either what you said

[autumn cypress]

@prime quail brother

[fierce pagoda]

or maybe they were injured soilders who were going to die anyways

and gottheir souls extracted like that

[split mortar]

Could also be the case

[fierce pagoda]

ok finally, and this is probably just gameplay, but why do pink souls only appear after moonlord?

[brave dew]

The liberals

[split mortar]

I think moonlord exploding either pisses them off and makes them active again or the explosion caused a mini earthquake in the dungeon that shook loose some of the bindings on polter and freed some pink angry souls

[fierce pagoda]

yeah right i remember something now, polterghast was said to be reminded of yharim by the player

after moonlord is dead, youre now so strong the pink souls now are out to get you

here i found it

"The spirits within the Dungeon only vaguely recall their lives, and yet there is one thing each and all clearly remember, that drives them to chaos: the man responsible for locking them in these cursed walls, and his overwhelming power– power that they have been reminded of, due to one ever growing in strength roaming their halls."

from the phantom spirit bestiary entry

now i guess the last thing im wondering about is this

after polter dies this happens

"The abyssal spirits have been disturbed."

and tier3 gets activated and abyss loot starts dropping

i still dont know what the abyssal spirits have to to with polterghast, or what the abyssal spirits even are

[split mortar]

I think t3 is getting moved from post polter so prob best to not think too much about it

[fierce pagoda]

alright thats relieving to think about

when polterghast dies though, we dont free the souls do we?

or do we kill them, again

for good this time, soul destroyed and all

[split mortar]

We use the strongest souls of polter in crafting

[fierce pagoda]

damn

[split mortar]

What is the crafting item dropped by polter?

[fierce pagoda]

ruinous soul

[dusk laurel]

Ruinous sousl?

[split mortar]

Yes those

They’re literally souls from polter

[fierce pagoda]

wow so we just split him up again essentially

then use him to make gear

[pliant ruin]

mew

[dusk laurel]

:3

[split mortar]

Dog behaviour

[fierce pagoda]

crazy to think that a fragment of Yharons soul is way more potent than polterghasts strongest soul

[indigo glade]

nya

[split mortar]

Soul fragment is only used in taming auric so we don’t really know that

[fierce pagoda]

bellow

[split mortar]

Bellow?

[fierce pagoda]

the wand

the wand is made from fragments

of yharon

[split mortar]

Ohhhh

[dusk laurel]

yharon*

[split mortar]

Yo yharim frags

[fierce pagoda]

thank you Vanillin

[dusk laurel]

:3

[fierce pagoda]

its the sound gators make

they bellow and hiss

[pliant ruin]

what the heck

stupid bug

[indigo glade]

yes!

[split mortar]

Seeker has become the red bug

[indigo glade]

my love!

[split mortar]

Is it possible to change pfp but just for one server?

[pliant ruin]

with nitro

[indigo glade]

Nitro only feature.

[split mortar]

Oh

Bruh

[dusk laurel]

I have the cheap nitro

So I can't do it

[fierce pagoda]

what does nitro cost

[pliant ruin]

money

its not worth it

[spring helm]

draedon's lab is all fucked up
i wonder what could have done that

[pliant ruin]

i can confirm as someone who had nitro

[fierce pagoda]

9.99 dolar per month

[fierce pagoda]

i think someone took a bite out of it

[light linden]

two things

[split mortar]

Mark in his way to force yharim to fix it

[light linden]

yharim got mad and the plaguebringer blasted it out

[spring helm]

ding
new idea

[pliant ruin]

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

alrgith lorers

what is the difference between essences and souls

they have the same tooltip scheme going on

[pliant ruin]

i think essence is a thing that's only associated with gods and is like, the remains of their souls affecting the enviroment

Meanwhile everyone has a Soul

and it dosent really affect the place around them

[split mortar]

Essences are multiple souls or broken souls while souls are well, normal

I think

[fierce pagoda]

what really

i didnt know any of this

[pliant ruin]

I'm pretty sure essences are only associated with gods

[fierce pagoda]

I was thinking f the essences dropped by enemies bt

btw

[pliant ruin]

Yeah those are all god things i think

[indigo glade]

Essence of eleum and havoc have nothing to do with gods...

[split mortar]

We don’t know anything else where their soul commits normal monster Undertale though

[fierce pagoda]

like havoc, sunshine and eleum

[light linden]

question

do we know what'll happen if an auric soul is just left alone for long enough?

[split mortar]

Don’t think so

[warm gull]

are souls of night and light and etc. god essences?

[fierce pagoda]

dissipaates maybe

[light linden]

kinda iirc

[pliant ruin]

i suppose souls of night and luight could be like

souls of beings twisted by divine essence

[fierce pagoda]

Melon said that the night andlight are souls tainted by godly essence

[light linden]

they're bits of multiple god souls mashed together with normal souls

[split mortar]

I think they’re souls infected by god essence

[warm gull]

gotcha

[fierce pagoda]

we dont know about flight though

[warm gull]

souls of might and sight and fright are all godseker knights

[pliant ruin]

given only wyverns drop flight its prob a vetrasyl thing

[warm gull]

souls of flight yeah vetrasyl

[split mortar]

Maybe wyverns just naturally evolved strong souls to levitate instead of growing wings?

[warm gull]

where does ocram fit into calamity lore

when will fabsol address this

[split mortar]

Yeah but auric ain’t passed onto offspring

[fierce pagoda]

what is the color of a normal soul, would it just be light blue? like the normal dungeon souls?

[split mortar]

I think it would just be a transparent white

[fierce pagoda]

maybe aerilite and souls of flight are linked

[warm gull]

probably invisible

[fierce pagoda]

All of these answers are just making the CV attracts souls theory make more sense to me

[light linden]

so fun thing

[pliant ruin]

well

they're called soul of flight

not auric soul of flight

so i still think its vetrasyl related

don't see any other explanation for it

[fierce pagoda]

do you think aerlite could be connected to vetrasyl too

[light linden]

y'all know that exotic resonance crap?

[split mortar]

I think it’s transparent white normally, but gets changed by the type of person you are

Extremely loyal and stalkerish? Green

Quite pissed off? Light blue
Super racist mode ? Orange
Bloody pissed off? The phantoplasm pink

And then god essence infection is based on the god essence I think

[indigo glade]

Clearly this is what Dragonblood is referring to.

[split mortar]

The stuff originating from vetrasyl yes?

[light linden]

ig

wouldn't exo armor just cook us because of it?

[fierce pagoda]

Yeha we still dont really know the deal with dragonblood do we?

or do we?

[fierce pagoda]

maybe the armor itself has safety precautions built into it

to prevent that

[dusk laurel]

Exo armor

Does not use it I don't think

[fierce pagoda]

i mean we can use miracle matter weapons just fine

[split mortar]

Exo armour has Exo prisms so yes there’s exotic resonance

But

[warm gull]

damn guess my soul is orange

[split mortar]

Only miracle matter we know is inherently dangerous to touch

[dusk laurel]

I misread it

[fierce pagoda]

The player seems extremetly resilient to radioactive stuff in general unless it directly touches their body

[fierce pagoda]

but thats just headcanon

[pliant ruin]

my soul is like pink because i'm pure and innocent and have never done anything wrong. i'm also the nicest girl ever

[split mortar]

That may just be a terrarian thing

[dusk laurel]

You are evil.

[light linden]

draedon says we managed to stabilize it

[split mortar]

Noted

Pink cause you diseased

[light linden]

so he begrudgingly calls it our name

[indigo glade]

Good girl.

[fierce pagoda]

it still inflicts exo resonance on other enemies

[indigo glade]

My soul is...

Unknowable.

[dusk laurel]

Cool

[split mortar]

Yeah, throw barely stable uranium at someone and it will probably become unstable

[fierce pagoda]

yeah, but holding it is okay

[pliant ruin]

bwaaa

[split mortar]

Noted

Edgy cringe soul so it’s ourple

[split mortar]

Yeah the stable miracle matter

[fierce pagoda]

but it inflicts it on other enemies if they touch it!

are we just really special and cool?!

[indigo glade]

Not edgy nor cringe.

But I do like the colour purple...

[dusk laurel]

Purple is cool yeah

[split mortar]

Perhapse some edgy and cringe then?

[split mortar]

Yeahh

[indigo glade]

No.

[split mortar]

:(

[fierce pagoda]

does oldduke have dragon blood

[dusk laurel]

Seeker can hyper-focus on trivial things

Like that stupid bug

[split mortar]

Old duke is a direct descendent

[warm gull]

join sigma nation today

[dusk laurel]

Or slimes that one time

[split mortar]

But by blood they mean soul

As in no auric soul

[fierce pagoda]

does duke fishron have dragonblood

[indigo glade]

Yharim explicitly says no.

[fierce pagoda]

why does OD have dragonblood, but Duke doesnt

[dusk laurel]

OD is

OLD

[split mortar]

No offshoot has “dragon blood” cause that refers to the auric soul for some fucking reason

Even though they are literally descendant me of dragons and actual dragons themselves

[dusk laurel]

Like one of the first fishrons

[fierce pagoda]

waith what

dragnblood and auric souls are the same thing

[dusk laurel]

This is news to me

[split mortar]

It refers to it in the one instance it’s said

[fierce pagoda]

oh...

i was under the idea that they were seperate things

[split mortar]

One of the lore writers literally corected me saying it’s of the soul iirc

[split mortar]

I was too for a while

[fierce pagoda]

and trying to think of why doesnt duke have dragon blood , while OD does even if they are both offshoots

[dusk laurel]

If they're dragons

Why would they lack dragonblood

[fierce pagoda]

yeah exactly

thats what i was thinking

and wanting to ask about

[strange stump]

more of a red (or green) guy myself

[fierce pagoda]

but Dragonblood and auric soul was the same thing all along

[warm gull]

Christmas

[strange stump]

its the most

wonderful time

of the yeaaarrrrrrrr

GOD

they are playing christmas songs in november

😭

[warm gull]

halloween over merry christmas

[dusk laurel]

Why does it list them a separate things then

[split mortar]

Idfk

[dusk laurel]

Genetic heritage or not: the Fishrons lack Dragonblood and Auric souls.

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim maybe doesnt know better idk

yeah the "and" really screws me over

[warm gull]

they skip straight to christmas after halloween because thanksgiving is only in north america

even though christmas is still 2 months away...

[fierce pagoda]

is this the only instance of dragonblood ever being mentioned?

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[warm gull]

wtf does "dragonblood" even mean

[dusk laurel]

Idfk

[warm gull]

auric souls I get

[fierce pagoda]

i thought it meant just having dragon genes

[split mortar]

Pretty sure just auric souls

[fierce pagoda]

but nope

[dusk laurel]

I thought that too

[fierce pagoda]

now i want to find the dev statement that confirmed it

[dusk laurel]

I only found this #lore-discussion message

[warm gull]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-sprite-cranberry-text-meme-gif-27171570

[dusk laurel]

Which doesn't mention that

[fierce pagoda]

found this

[dusk laurel]

tringle

Yeah I'm getting mixed signals here

#lore-discussion message

I found this

[fierce pagoda]

yeah they seem to imply they are indeed seperate things

[dusk laurel]

I think they DO have it

Just Yharim failing at biology once again

[fierce pagoda]

alright im confused now

[sleek halo]

keep in mind

[fierce pagoda]

well triangle mentioned that they slowly lose the origin point of their dragon blood

[sleek halo]

that is a year and one day old

[dusk laurel]

I just realized that

[sleek halo]

which is kinda funny

[fierce pagoda]

so maybe their dragonblood just got sooo diluted its basically non existent atp

so even if duke has Dragonblood, he has less than 99%

or something

[sleek halo]

perhaps

[fierce pagoda]

alright wait

i think what triangle was talking about

is is own addon mod

[boreal portal]

This entire map is based off of our world just with different versions and shapes but overall it is the same

[dusk laurel]

Oh yeah

I completely forgot about that discussion

[fierce pagoda]

i went further up and he's talking about lore for his addon

hmm i really wish a dev popped in right now and cleared up the distinction between Dragonblood and Auric souls

and why distant draconic offshoots don't even have a little bit of dragonblood left

[split mortar]

Isn’t cei or some of the others fine with pings?

[dusk laurel]

Mayhaps

[fierce pagoda]

i dont know and im not risking it

lmao

[split mortar]

Cei says they’re fine with dms in their thing

[dusk laurel]

Daiquiri is gonna come in here and complain about why being scared of pinging someone is stupid

I'm calling it

[split mortar]

Rebecca’s the only one with the direct power to smite us

[warm gull]

@spare pier

[split mortar]

Pfft

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

@spare pier yeah uh what’s with dragon blood stuff

[fierce pagoda]

thats a silent message

[brave dew]

I agree

Unless they're like

Some big buiseness guy

[dusk laurel]

Look up

[dusk laurel]

That's not what i meant

[split mortar]

Wanted their attention but daichin had already pinged them so it wasn’t needed for another ping

[spare pier]

Whar

[split mortar]

People bit confused on what’s meant by it

When it says a offshoot lacks blood and soul