lore-discussion

[untold oracle]

Proof

[calm dust]

Im unsure here

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-draerim-calamity-calamity-mod-hop-on-gif-14507370317284012742

Yes

[brave dew]

Robot and yharim kissing 🥰

[hushed geyser]

How does a robot kiss

No lips

[brave dew]

Love cannot be stopped by no lips

[hushed geyser]

[pliant ruin]

lore

[untold oracle]

Lore!

[dusk laurel]

Loreful

[deft vessel]

LORE!!!

[gritty kraken]

Is this how Dragon of fire looked like before providence slurp up its soul

[leaden bridge]

No

[gritty kraken]

ok

[cloud ibex]

absolutely

[brave dew]

Yayy i can kiss draedon

[pliant ruin]

I'm pretty sure that's what lore writers are gonna go for

They said they want to give all "Legendary" weapons lore-based tooltips iirc

[gritty kraken]

okcool

[fading sun]

yes

[gritty kraken]

okcool
coolstuff

[sleek halo]

just know it’s not confirmed

[sleek halo]

that or a mock of it

[untold oracle]

Make 50% have correct lore drops and 50% complete bs

Then watch as the community tries figuring out which claim is right

[sleek halo]

so true

[random mulch]

norfleet will reveal that DoG's real name is gobule

[sleek halo]

😱

[deft vessel]

That’s awesome sauce

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

Crown jewel will reveal that King Slime was indeed the evil mastermind that created Yharim

[light linden]

this a bad time?

[split mortar]

Idk

[deft vessel]

Malachite will reveal that the plague was actually made by big honey to increase sales

[light linden]

legendary weapons?

like ones from playing on legendary difficulty?

[split mortar]

No

[deft vessel]

In 1.3 some bosses had 1% chance to drop special weapons that scaled with progress

[light linden]

oh

[untold oracle]

Now they are the 10% weapons/accessories

[light linden]

shpc was one of them right?

[split mortar]

In old old calamity some rare weapons had like a 1% chance to drop and they were like the only ones viable for scal I think? They were quite good and scaled

Some of these items were
Blossom flux
Aegis blade
Briny baron
Malachite

[untold oracle]

The only one of them that kept the scaling was the community (it is the entire point of it)

[light linden]

Blossom Flux my beloved

[light linden]

tf is the briny baron from?

[split mortar]

Duke fishron

[light linden]

oh

explains why I've never gotten it, I avoid them like the plague

[devout grotto]

Are those the Rare Variant weps or am I thinking of something else

[split mortar]

They’re the legendary weapons

Prob thinking of something else

[devout grotto]

I see

[light linden]

that last phase hurts my eyes

[noble niche]

Is there a lore reason why 136.4821.8365.296.2

[pliant ruin]

ye

[split mortar]

Wha

[wheat walrus]

this dummy can't even write false ips correctly :/

[untold oracle]

Guys we found the Aerie

[light linden]

just realized

does wifi exist in calamity?

[untold oracle]

Interesting question

Draedon most certainly has some kind of

[random mulch]

draedon probably invented it

[untold oracle]

Did Azafure have any digital inventions?

[devout grotto]

Since smartphones (or at least cellphones) are a thing, I believe that's the case

I'm a strong modern tech Terraria believer

[split mortar]

Doubt it

[devout grotto]

Probably not since they just hit their Industrial Revolution

Although imo there should be at least one surface civilization that has achieved present day tech

In my stories, Seisai's definitely included since Amatsumara is pretty much a god of innovation to an extent

[split mortar]

Imagine being essentially the god of innovation and getting out done by a robot that’s younger then you

[devout grotto]

But yeah magic also has a part on advancing tech in Terraria in general afaik because the Wulfrum Prosthetic talks about it so there's no way there's absolutely no wifi or something like that

[devout grotto]

Ok but I actually have it in mind for Draedon to be interested in them :O

[split mortar]

Makes sense

[devout grotto]

Idt he's got anything against gods anyway

So a god that more or less shares his goal in mind would be a pleasant surprise to him

~~Too bad they were slain by Yharim by the time he finds out about them ~~

[split mortar]

The Exo prisms and sea prisms are magic afaik, so yeah tech and magic are very capable of mixing fine even at high power

[devout grotto]

Yep exactly

Which is why I'm pushing the (baseline) modern tech Terraria agenda ☝🏼

[untold oracle]

I think that the technological development is extremely different depending on location

So one civilization can be medieval where other one has digital stuff

Because I don’t think there’s a lot of cross-country collaboration present in the world

[split mortar]

I think canonically azafure was one of the highest tech areas before draedon

Now after draedon? Tech can go from surpassing irl to medieval in like 3 kilometres

[untold oracle]

I love stirring up society!

[light linden]

speaking of draedon

what would happen if he tried absorbing an auric soul?

[warm gull]

anno domini

[random mulch]

well we'd have to answer a different question first
does draedon even have a soul

[untold oracle]

Auric malware

[light linden]

I wonder if he would just get turned into auric

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah I did lowkey wanna avoid that in my worldbuilding 😭

[light linden]

pokemon be like

[devout grotto]

Teyvat in Genshin is pretty much like that (literally Mondstadt compared to Natlan) and that kind of bothered me a lot

I wanted cross-nation trading to be a thing

Since it is a thing irl

[light linden]

I mean

cross nation trading is a thing irl and some countries are more advanced then others

just not massive technology differences

[devout grotto]

Yeah exactly

[light linden]

also some countries do just close themselves off to foreign influence

[devout grotto]

I know fiction doesn't always have to be 1:1 with reality but I'd like it if technological differences is more like how it is irl

[devout grotto]

Oh true...

[light linden]

e.g. what happened with japan

they still had samurai and swords while most other countries had trains, guns, and factories

[frozen zodiac]

would draedon listening to music improve his concentration, though i doubt there would be music to listen to considering the technology the masses have is still primitive

[visual kiln]

p

[split mortar]

Considering draedon worked for yharim for ages I doubt anyone other then those sides with yharim would have had access to the modern day tech for a while

[strange stump]

i hear about worldbuilding with nations

i have been summoned

[devout grotto]

Oh hey o/

[light linden]

and in some cases countries only keep modern day tech to the upper class or military

[untold oracle]

Haiii azzy

[visual kiln]

omg hai space

[devout grotto]

That is one thing to consider yeah

[devout grotto]

There could be some people who decided to like

At least attempt to reverse engineer those tech

Even if it's limited to a particular group

[warm gull]

blink

[light linden]

part of my add-on has a character who did something like that

[devout grotto]

:O !

[untold oracle]

”Bruh it literally says mysterious circuitry how am I supposed to get this”

[devout grotto]

LOL

[devout grotto]

One of my stories has a character that does that too

[warm gull]

based btw

[light linden]

they broke into one of draedon's labs to get some of his modern technology (they're a godseeker knight so they were using the uelibloom grade stuff before)

[warm gull]

best type of worldbuilding

[deft vessel]

I should worldbuild more nations. I only have three

[untold oracle]

My character tries to follow the instructions the schematics have to create a seeking mechanism and ends up getting mad after failing for 6 hours

(She did eventually make it)

[light linden]

random thing btw

[strange stump]

HOHOHOHOHO

[light linden]

y'all know superconductors?

[strange stump]

wait until you hear about my writing

you can instantly tell i play joi4

[wheat walrus]

the spankler is laughing like freezer dragon ballz

[strange stump]

...

hoi4, i mean

[warm gull]

I love making my world's nation's suffer from insane nationalism and pride in their country and kill each other for it

[light linden]

you think cryonic could be used to make one?

since it's naturally cold?

[untold oracle]

Oh no…

[light linden]

hoi4?

[untold oracle]

How many hours

[wheat walrus]

oi oi oi

[strange stump]

201 hours

[warm gull]

I've never played hoi4

[untold oracle]

I’m above 500

[light linden]

I've never heard of it

[wheat walrus]

what the fuck is oi4

[untold oracle]

I’m beyond redemption

[strange stump]

by the way you describe your nations

you'd like it

[untold oracle]

Money drain

[warm gull]

I got my country worldbuilding urge from uhhhhhhh

idk I just like it

also attack on titan

[wheat walrus]

money drain seems like a funny game

[strange stump]

workshop is fucking crazy too

[warm gull]

but that came after

[strange stump]

you can create your own alternative history if you know how to mod

fuck, man
you can create your own fucking world

some fucker recreated fallout

[warm gull]

my nations

[untold oracle]

Red flood:

[strange stump]

hoi4 modded fans are pretty sane, too

_ _

unless

its TNO fans

[untold oracle]

ABANDON REALITY

[devout grotto]

Terraria gave me the urge to worldbuild nations

[strange stump]

TNO is something else, holy shit

[devout grotto]

As long as there's at least one culture-specific item in vanilla, there's gonna be a nation based on thag culture

Pad Thai is a thing, so I gotta make Terraria Thailand sooner or later

[untold oracle]

Yeah…
-# I totally don’t have played it fully multiple times

[strange stump]

i have never been uneasy playing hoi4

but that mod did it

[light linden]

what is hoi4?

[wheat walrus]

yea

what is that

[strange stump]

its a ww2 grand strategy game

[wheat walrus]

who tf calls their game hoi

[devout grotto]

I saw these pictures and I definitely got an idea on what to put there at least

[untold oracle]

Hearts of iron 4

[wheat walrus]

oh alr

[strange stump]

have you tried
...
T h e G r e a t T r i a l ?

[untold oracle]

Yes I miraculously beat it on first try (2wrw included)

[strange stump]

dayuuuuuuuuum

[deft vessel]

Wtf hoi4 jumpscare

[faint plank]

goog.....

[deft vessel]

goog…..

[strange stump]

but yeah, i take like

inspiration from history

from all periods

if you want to write a convincing people, study history

its simple as that

[deft vessel]

I usually get a funny idea and start building around it

[untold oracle]

Mongol empire my beloved

Silly goobers invade fifth of the world and vanish within 150 years

[warm gull]

okay so one of them, named Nhagora, is the remants of several warring states on a continent that all banded together after they bombed-out all their industry under one wartime ruler (called the Harakobon.) In order to make sure that the Harakoban had no allegiances to any of the still remaining states of Nhagora, they were chosen from within the Airai, which is a large region of newrly uninhabitable land that is loosely populated by impoverished villages left over from states thst had collapsed completely during the warring period. The prospective Harakoban is then brutalized and broken, and if they survive, they are chosen as the war leader for the entire nation, and their bloodline follows them. Anyways, so since Nhagora had used up basically all ofnthe resources on their entire continent trying to kill each other, the last semblances of civilization remaining on the continent realized that they must take to the oceans in order to find new lands to conquer. They consultednthe Oracle in the Tower of Nairon, which is an ancient tower from a civilization long forgotten (it's actually just a GPS AI) and discovered a large, untapped landmass to the East, and another landmass with a thriving civilization to the further East. The Nhagorans decided that they must conquer this central continent before the eastern civilization got the chance, and so they sent out ships and built industry along the western shores. That's basically all there is to them so far

[untold oracle]

Finally

[deft vessel]

Is this for calamity?

[warm gull]

no

[untold oracle]

Oracle being an ancient AI is cool

[deft vessel]

What for then?

[warm gull]

it's just worldbuilding

[deft vessel]

[untold oracle]

Lore.

[faint plank]

loreious

[untold oracle]

Lorororus

[deft vessel]

I had this idea for a world that is just this one guys big ass terrarium. And some of the bugs praise them as like a divine being that gives them gifts (random berries)

[devout grotto]

:OOOO

[strange stump]

i have a small project on the side to do a crossover between madness combat and calamity, just for fun

[devout grotto]

Are the names from your conlang/s or are they inspired by African cultures 🤔

The names lowkey sound African to me

[strange stump]

or, putting in a different way, im calamity-fying madness

_ _

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah now I kinda have something completely unrelated

[deft vessel]

Mainly got the idea from leaf bugs ( sometimes they do this weird praising pose)

[strange stump]

also creating the darkest timeline possible a.k.a yharim semi-wins but ignore that

[devout grotto]

Can the evil biomes actually affect people in at least some aspects (whether physically or mentally) or can it just be something up to interpretation?

[devout grotto]

Thinking of making Rage and Adrenaline canon for my Terrarian and they have something to do with how the evil biomes affected them

Ok maybe not anymore, I think I'll just relegate the Crimson and Corruption-related abilities to accessories/the armors/any combat item made with evil biome mats

(Ngl I've always seen my stories as games rather than typical novels and such )

[deft vessel]

I did it with

Draedon combat stimulants. Now for only 19,99€.

Only banned in 182 countries

[devout grotto]

😭

[deft vessel]

Just realised that like half of my OCs are dragon champions

[noble niche]

Canonically if a giant eldritch creature of immense power challenged you i bet you'd be pretty angy and if you were working your ass of to not be hit I bet you'd have a lot of adrenaline

[untold oracle]

Fair deal!

[frank dune]

Hello

[pliant ruin]

lobster

[hot valve]

Hi

[warm gull]

dire thunderhead when flourishing lightningfoot walks in

[wheat walrus]

dire miralis

[charred prism]

Living volcano moment

[wheat walrus]

living deep frying machine

[split mortar]

Fucking forgot it would effect other servers

[wheat walrus]

truth or dare effects are everywhere now...

[split mortar]

I don’t want to be part of your truth or dare game

[brave dew]

Truth

What's my biggest turn on

This

[light linden]

is that a cherufe?

[wheat walrus]

that's dire miralis silly

:3

[light linden]

idk what that is

[split mortar]

Dragon that may or may not idk beat xeroc

[wheat walrus]

that's the uhhh

the guy that fries entire seas by existing in them

also apparently causes crustal movements that collapse entire islands and other landmasses :1

[light linden]

it looks like a cross between a cherufe and a magmasaur from ark

[wheat walrus]

magmasaur from ark...

I can see it

however

dire miralis 2013, magmasaur 2020

[gritty kraken]

It’s the guy from resident evil or something

[wheat walrus]

whar

[strange stump]

you look new to here

[wheat walrus]

space what

[strange stump]

cyka i just realised your omni

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[wheat walrus]

this isn't me trying to bring back the gimmick from last year dw

[gritty kraken]

I have a theory that yharon might be a dragon

[hot valve]

No…

My greatest enemy..

[strange stump]

unlike other people i have no enemies

[split mortar]

Space when time walks in

[wheat walrus]

meanwhile me

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-is-yet-to-go-gif-18097266137356931041

[strange stump]

_ _

as i was saying

no enemies

none

zero

i could never start a fight

[split mortar]

All I’m hearing is that you lose

[strange stump]

theres this one achievement in hotline miami 2

"Don't let anger take the best of you"

[wheat walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885064523785064458/1300634203678838804/RDT_20241021_1127373817035545319428174.gif

let anger take the worst and best of you ngl

[dense lynx]

Question: How would Yharim see the Ancient Deity Duo as?

[real silo]

He will kill

[dense lynx]

Yeah they're gods. So most likely. He just could not understand how to find them.

To be fact disguising yourself as lesser creature might be reason to be still alive after the crusade.

[sleek halo]

qhar

[dusk laurel]

Who are the Ancient Deity Duo

[warm gull]

your mother and her boyfriend

[dusk laurel]

Feeling more evil than usual?

[warm gull]

always

[pearl forum]

wait does the destroyer have people inside it?

"The Godseeker Knights of my company were by far my finest soldiers.
They championed my cause, and I championed them in return.
I bestowed upon them hulking armor and colossal weaponry, so their might would never falter.
Some days I would take time to train by their side, inspiring them to new heights of righteous fury.
Draedon understood well and granted them these massive forms. Bristling with weaponry and interlocked armor forged of blessed metal.
While in truth it was repurposed mining equipment, their sheer presence on the battlefield was immense."

[dusk laurel]

It has souls of the Godseeker knights

[dense lynx]

Boss from MoR

[dusk laurel]

I don't think he would then

[dense lynx]

It consist of two gods

[dusk laurel]

Since they likely did not ascend with an auric soul

[dense lynx]

So he would see them as innocent

[sinful adder]

The souls in the mech bosses are the souls of yharim's army that they allegedly gave up willingly so they could fight on even in death

[spring helm]

maybe it was part of the contract as a Godseeker Knight

you want the really good gear? you must sign your soul away

[wheat walrus]

e

[glossy wolf]

whats the main lore behind the abyss?

[spring helm]

deep

Silva's corpse is there

the Terminus is there

underneath it is Azafure

[warm gull]

main lore?

[light linden]

it's an unnatural formation being kept open by anahita and later silva

silva's corpse was dumped there but she wasn't fully dead and she has been helping to keep life thriving in such a hostile environment

the terminus is sealed at the bottom of it for an unknown purpose

[glossy wolf]

isnt it sealed there because xeroc didnt want anybody reaching it in the first place?

or was it like

a challenge

[light linden]

that's old lore iirc

[glossy wolf]

o

[spring helm]

When was this stated? I thought it was natural

[light linden]

lemme find it

ok so nvm it is natural

just it's being kept open through unnatural means

[wheat walrus]

hmhm

doesn't seem like the type of thing I'll be able to properly calculate...

or at least

it's prolly more of a weight feat than an energy feat, not like it matters much since we know very little still

[dusk laurel]

Are you powerscaling

[pliant ruin]

its omni what do you think

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-jjk-jjks2-jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-gif-16426072969937482542

[spring helm]

i forgot that's omni

[wheat walrus]

none of y'all were there back in the days

[spring helm]

you say that like you're over the age of 8

[pliant ruin]

you say that like you're over the age of 5

[wheat walrus]

the days where I changed my account's everything on the daily and sometimes acted like a new user

if you did 8+5 that wouldn't even be my full age silly :/

[spring helm]

🤯

[faint plank]

🐴

[warm gull]

what in the name

[wheat walrus]

Not even you were there :/

[warm gull]

crazy

I remember when you were the evil fucked up powerscaling guy

lore villain

scaling calamitas's ocean boiling feat and doing math in lore every day

[spring helm]

ran out of feats

[real silo]

Ran out of feets

[wheat walrus]

feet*

dummy

[real silo]

nuh uh

foot²

[wheat walrus]

wrong...

this ain't math dumbass...

[real silo]

says the resident math nerd

[wheat walrus]

shut up :/

[real silo]

You probably know what limits are

smh

[wheat walrus]

sì

sono al mio limite................

[dusk laurel]

Is this New+ Latin

[wheat walrus]

oh porco dio

zitto.

https://tenor.com/view/sabrinanightmaren-toy-freddy-mewing-toy-freddy-mewing-fnaf-gif-12642938351467065520

[real silo]

If you flip latinmo over you get omnital

Coincidence?

[hoary berry]

What is occurring right now

[dusk laurel]

[real silo]

Me I am occuring

[hoary berry]

😨

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dario-greggio-gif-26580935

[real silo]

How goes your existence in this axial cycle of rotation

[hoary berry]

Why is omni’s pfp the boykisser gif

[wheat walrus]

:/

[real silo]

Forced to boykiss

[wheat walrus]

do I have to explain this again

[hoary berry]

It’s 4:07am

[real silo]

I should draw again but I ran out of girls

[hoary berry]

:08 now

[real silo]

Is it time I draw men

[wheat walrus]

ya

[hoary berry]

Make new girl to draw

[real silo]

Head empty can't create girl

I saw what you deleted.

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-is-yet-to-go-gif-18097266137356931041

[warm gull]

god it's so hilarious seeing the boykisser pfp all the time

[wheat walrus]

luckily none of yall aint seen my status

[warm gull]

bark bark bark woof woof

[wheat walrus]

worst of all that shit will be there for an entire week, whereas this pfp for only a day

[warm gull]

yes I have

[hoary berry]

[real silo]

What even happened

Did you get ransomed

[warm gull]

lost truth or dare terribly

[wheat walrus]

truth or dare

[real silo]

Shouldn't have picked dare

Stupid

[warm gull]

did you make the other people suffer adequately

[dusk laurel]

What are you getting in compensation Omni

[wheat walrus]

I mean there's a chance some guy will give me the phone number of their mom once they wake up

[hoary berry]

Lmao

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-is-yet-to-go-gif-18097266137356931041

[real silo]

Fucked up

"hi is this omni's mom"

[wheat walrus]

not my mom dumbass

:\

[real silo]

Don't care

You're the one with the boykisser pfp

[wheat walrus]

shut the fuck up :1

[warm gull]

omni

zip it, lock it, and put it in your pocket

[wheat walrus]

what

[warm gull]

understanding of english isn't high enough to understand the turn of phrase

tragic

[wheat walrus]

no dummy

after that

I'll be carrying it to home...

and then

:3

[dusk laurel]

[warm gull]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[wheat walrus]

that fucking cat saw not one thing :/

[autumn cypress]

Did wrath of the gods ever actually name nameless xeroc or is that just little kids that took a name and applied it to the mod mod

[warm gull]

zip it lock it and put in your pocket is refering to your mouth omni

zip your mouth

keep it on lock

[wheat walrus]

early in wotg's development nameless deity was xeroc technically, an older lore version of it that is, then things happened and it became nameless deity instead of old lore xeroc

so yea

[wheat walrus]

yea i'll zip your mouth :/

[warm gull]

lackluster response, try again in 30 seconds

blud's gotta wait for the cooldown

[wheat walrus]

what?

[real silo]

Nameless deity got the name "nameless deity of light" specifically to detach itself from the name xeroc

It didn't work

Not 100%

[wheat walrus]

nameless dumbass

that's all the dumbass youtube commenters and redditors saying he xeroc

[real silo]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

like that bitch got no rock

[real silo]

No Xes nor Rocs

This fucker is not xeroc

[warm gull]

terraria youtubers when they see something they can milk for clickbait

[real silo]

it's like that one patrick and manta ray man meme

[autumn cypress]

Xeroc, robot litch, yhar, I wanna all shake them like the babies they are

[warm gull]

was this uhhh

an attempt at a rhyme

[autumn cypress]

Huh

[wheat walrus]

lion pizza chicken :/

[real silo]

why the fuck are you putting lions on pizza

[dusk laurel]

Yeah i was gonna say why would you eat a lion

[autumn cypress]

Tasty

[wheat walrus]

none of these bitches get it man...

[autumn cypress]

Kratos verde is canon to calamity

[real silo]

you're a bitch

smelly

[wheat walrus]

kratos verde quando kratos marrone e kratos viola entrano nella scena

[wheat walrus]

wrong :/

[autumn cypress]

Kratos verde canon and is confirmed to be the strongest of them all

[real silo]

who's the one who has bark bark bark woof woof in their status in this very moment

[wheat walrus]

i mean being strongest around country level at max isn't too big :/

[autumn cypress]

Go play kratos verde mod

[wheat walrus]

yea and you're advertising your socials in the status dumbass...

[real silo]

that's right

The sky IS blue

[wheat walrus]

it's jetblack dumbass

[real silo]

Jets aren't even black except for like 4

[wheat walrus]

i dont care

my jet is black...

[real silo]

proof?

evidence?

[wheat walrus]

pic i took before raiding a village of peasants

[warm gull]

hush little omni don't you cry, fatalis gonna sing you a lullaby

[wheat walrus]

wtf is you saying

[warm gull]

time to go to bed

sleep

tomorrow no more boykisser

[wheat walrus]

it's 5am you dumbass

[glacial rampart]

draw rise from persona

[real silo]

Who

[wheat walrus]

ok vegeta darwin :/

[real silo]

I'm drawing OCs first and only other characters once I run out

[sudden ruin]

wtf boykisser in lore chat

not surprised

[spring helm]

truly the lore of all time

[dusk laurel]

Very loreful imho

[spring helm]

you think Draedon kept track of CalClone

[dusk laurel]

I think he might've for a little while, and then he would've lost interest eventually

[spring helm]

Mark is not the right person to take care of the massively fucked up CalClone so I'm sending another

wait, where did CalClone get the machine she's in

Did SCal just stuff her in the mechanical eyeball and bid her adieu

[warm gull]

put calclone in the woodchipper

[real silo]

She learned how to maintain it from draedon or smth

[spring helm]

ok fair, but how did she even get it in the first place

[real silo]

thievery

[light linden]

random thing

[real silo]

Cal broke into draedon's lab to free her maybe she nicked the giant clone machine in the process too

[light linden]

do we know if calamitas can use any spells that don't involve necromancy or hellfire?

[dusk laurel]

She made cryogen

So presumably yes

[real silo]

This means she can use water magic

Fire + ice

[spring helm]

she can

she's just not as good at them

[autumn cypress]

We should be able to kill her

Perma kill the last dragon, kill weird witch, kill everything

[light linden]

can't

[dusk laurel]

I think this is referring to how she started out as no?

She could only do brimstone magic

Until her training under Perma

[light linden]

we don't know how to absorb yharon's auric soul, we have no idea where draedon actually lives, and supposedly xeroc is untouchable

[warm gull]

blinkus

[spring helm]

i jsut think the scenario of Calamitas being aweful at everything outside her specialty funny

but she's not

[autumn cypress]

Yeah but someday the mod will be finished and I hope we can suck them all up and be big chad

[dusk laurel]

What?

[light linden]

imagine if calamitas just pulled a flash freeze spell mid bullet hell

[sudden ruin]

trying too hard to get put in the quotes channel 💔

[real silo]

Her arena border will be made of brimstone ice

[autumn cypress]

There’s a quotes channel?

[real silo]

Mark my words

[dusk laurel]

sscls...

[sudden ruin]

real

[real silo]

Draedon lives everywhere

He can teleport his mind

[autumn cypress]

Kill everything mythical to save terraria

[sudden ruin]

ataraxia what inspired your username was it the weapon

[real silo]

Altaire (something something constellation) + gundam exia

Iirc at least

It's been 6 years

[sudden ruin]

woah ok thought out name

[real silo]

Altair is the brightest star in the constellation of Aquila, the Eagle

It's over guys I'm an american now

🦅 feet and inches !!

[sudden ruin]

i dont think you wanna be over here for now

boooo america

[autumn cypress]

This is for the lore of the calamity mod for terraria not lore of other shit

[real silo]

I'm the calamity mod for terraria

[sudden ruin]

altraxia is pretty much ataraxia which is calamity mod melee weapon and im learning lore

[real silo]

See

Calamity lore

Anyways if ataraxia is canon (it isn't) would that mean buddhism is canon

[sudden ruin]

i didnt know ataraxia was linked too buddhism

[autumn cypress]

secret boss buddha

[real silo]

Ok it turns out it's greek not buddhism

I got it confused with nirvana

is a lucid state of robust equanimity
Holy fucking shit is that a calamity reference

[light linden]

random thing

do the ashes of annihilation have any lore to them?

[real silo]

Not yet I think

[high lynx]

Its been a while since i did a calamity study day

I feel dry and draedonless

Should i read all the bestiary entries

[past kayak]

If you wish so?

[light linden]

Y'all think it would make sense for someone preparing to fight the DoG in lore to have weapons with some level of armor penetration?

[sinful adder]

probably

[brave dew]

Technically yes

One thing tho is that dog and exo mechs have an armor that comes from the same guy and dog got like 92.5 % dr compared to the 25 % of exo mechs

[real silo]

Thanatos with 99% DR

[warm gull]

why doesn't the terrarian simply make armor from thanatos's chassis

is he stupid

[real silo]

Just wait for exo armor

overheat armor now drops your movement speed by 30%

[warm gull]

I mean if you have 99% dr when you aren't overheating that really doesn't seem too bad

[real silo]

Face tank armor finally real

[split mortar]

Isn’t the tank armour look like ares

[real silo]

Yes

The overheat armor is glass

[brave dew]

Glass cannon armors are the best

[warm gull]

"armor"

you mean glorified accessories that make your mage weapons deal more damage

[deft vessel]

Thats what its all about

[frank dune]

Dmg reduction in cal is worthless anyways

You can't really get more than 30

[mighty zenith]

does he know

[frank dune]

🚿

[mighty zenith]

that wont work on me mortal fool

[frank dune]

Ur also mortal

Ima eat aureus cells

[untold oracle]

I don’t think you should

[mighty zenith]

let them overdose

[frank dune]

Hm ok

[untold oracle]

You should drink the molten cheese in Azafure

[deft vessel]

Now of you think about it. If Yharim is in his physical peak. That mean his cells would not be dying really yet. So it is plausable that he could still live for quite some time.

[mighty zenith]

maybe his cells will just rapidly start to die after some more time

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-licker-cat-gif-26550624

[deft vessel]

Yharim: ”im in perfect health👍”
30 seconds later
”AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”

[mighty zenith]

they're grill buddies

or gay lovers

depends on who u ask

[hoary berry]

i'm having flashbacks to a conversation from calart quite recently

#404850196766392340 message

[deft vessel]

There is a gay lovers discussion every day

[faint plank]

i love it

[warm gull]

why is calart always full of edgy passive aggressive artists

instead of regular person artists

calamity art server

also based for not knowing tbh

there's an invite in #info

based

[fading sun]

Me asf

Guys what are the lore implications behind plantera

Lore itme

[mighty zenith]

feeding dead people to plants

[sinful adder]

Ironic, considering

Polter is currently a plantera clone

[frank dune]

Yeah ik

[warm gull]

no that's my lore

no stealing ❌

when yharim comes out it will be 3

[mighty zenith]

its part of my daily routine

[warm gull]

I only steal when I feel like it

[sinful adder]

Yharim as a duke Fishron clone would be really funny

[mighty zenith]

yharim as an eol clone

[warm gull]

doing it with rhythm and pattern makes it more predictable plus that's a commitment and I don't make those

[mighty zenith]

dummy ai

[warm gull]

I mean what else would he be

fabsol will 100% code him to dash at you 3 times and then spin around and summon projectiles

[sinful adder]

Lmao, he would

[mighty zenith]

if yharim released in 2018

[warm gull]

this isn't a joke

I guarentee this will happen

[mighty zenith]

cant wait

[untold oracle]

2 technically

Asteum aruess

[warm gull]

straight up yharin my shit

oh crabulon normal mode 🥰

[mighty zenith]

aureus isnt a golem clone

this isnt even me defending it, it literally doesnt use golem ai lol

neither does crabulon

[warm gull]

it isn't about the exact ai

it'd about the way you fight it

[frank dune]

Tbh aureus is king slime clone

Also trying to stomp you

[mighty zenith]

they both jump
that's like

it

with that logic golem is a king slime clone

[warm gull]

grounded jumping enemies yeah

[warm gull]

indeed

[untold oracle]

Note: this is said by user with ”Aureus Lover” in their username

[warm gull]

welcome to the Calamity Addons United boss phylogeny

(yes this really happened)

[mighty zenith]

the what

[untold oracle]

Queen slime is a king slime clone smh

[mighty zenith]

[frank dune]

1 whole eoc clone

[warm gull]

I'm telling ya it happened fr

they reduced it to like 3 boss types

slime, eye, and empress

[frank dune]

Cal clone is on the same power level as fargo eoc somehow

For plantera level boss

[mighty zenith]

[frank dune]

Worm?

[warm gull]

worms are eyes

[mighty zenith]

worms are multisegment eyes

[warm gull]

see garbo gets it

[frank dune]

Duke fishron is eoc clone then

[mighty zenith]

yes

[warm gull]

yes

by this logic, yharim will be an eye

and yharon is an eye

[mighty zenith]

moon lord is an empress

[warm gull]

indeed

though it may be better to reverse those titles

[mighty zenith]

yeah actually

id say it should be uhh

slime, eye, cultist

[sinful adder]

Worm bosses are just eye with segments

[mighty zenith]

exactly

[warm gull]

yes this is established

goozma is a cultist

I imagine xeroc would probably also be a cultist

queen bee is an eye

[sinful adder]

What distinguishes eye from cultist

[real silo]

cultist doesn't dash or smth

[sinful adder]

It does kinda

But not... At you

[real silo]

cultist doesn't but eol does

[warm gull]

cultists don't follow you around and use mostly projectiles for attacks

[real silo]

Was about to say

[warm gull]

empress of light is a cultist

[sinful adder]

Ok fair

[real silo]

This lore goes hard

Is moon lord an eye

[mighty zenith]

the player is a cultist...

[frank dune]

Ml is cultist

[mighty zenith]

nah moon lord is a cultist

[real silo]

You're a cultist

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-meme-cook-gif-1177116184918006692

[mighty zenith]

follows you around but uses projectiles

[sinful adder]

Is there a list of all of them

What's WoF

What's plantera

[real silo]

eye

[mighty zenith]

plant is eye

[frank dune]

Fighter ai

[autumn cypress]

What if it there’s a twists where yharim just breaks down and cries like the big baby he is because he finds out we are the player and exist outside of the game

[warm gull]

best expressed here but with empress as the term rather than cultist

[mighty zenith]

wof is also eye

[sinful adder]

I guess

[real silo]

wall relies on contact to be dangerous

[warm gull]

is retinazer an empress/cultist

[sinful adder]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

eyes can still use projectiles

[sinful adder]

Maybe

[real silo]

empress I think

[warm gull]

no but it dashes too

[mighty zenith]

actually
phase 2 ret is a cultist

[real silo]

Ret stays to your side

[warm gull]

I think it'd an eye

[sinful adder]

There really are just 3 bosses

[mighty zenith]

phase 1 ret is an eye

[frank dune]

This chat is so loreful

[mighty zenith]

in phase 2 he just positions himself above or to the side and shoots

so the eye is not an eye (kinda)

[real silo]

How interesting that retinazer transitions from eyegender to empressgender

Is scal an eye

[sinful adder]

No

[mighty zenith]

proud of him ❤️

[sinful adder]

No contact damage

[real silo]

Ok fair

[sinful adder]

Except for like maybe in one attack

Would you like me to write out all my thoughts

[real silo]

Thanatos is an eye
Ares is an empress
Exo twins are empresses (lol)

[sinful adder]

Of what bosses are

[autumn cypress]

What are yall even talking about, is there only 2 categories of boss ai or something

[real silo]

The real question is

[sinful adder]

Yes

[real silo]

What about draedon

[warm gull]

3

[warm gull]

draedon is an empress

[real silo]

Fair enough

[autumn cypress]

Is every boss not coded from the ground up? They are all retrofitted and tweaked?

[warm gull]

and his projectile attacks are the exos

[sinful adder]

3 categories of boss AI:
Ground fucker
Charging fucker
Projectiles teleporty fucker

[warm gull]

just simplify that to shooty fucker

[real silo]

Ain't the world a beautiful place

[warm gull]

ground fucker
dash fucker
shooty fucker

[sinful adder]

They are all unique, but from a gameplay perspective, if you keep simplifying them, they all converge on 3ish different categories, that's what this is about

[real silo]

Ok let's try some more abstract bosses

Ceiros SLR

[sinful adder]

Worm bosses are kinda half grounded half dash

[autumn cypress]

Well also the game devs never thought of mod’s that make you able to go up and down the whole world in one flight meter

[sinful adder]

And sometimes shooty

[autumn cypress]

AI struggles the moment its off screen

[real silo]

Worm bosses all aim straight for you

[sinful adder]

Nuh-uh

[real silo]

Yuh uh

[sinful adder]

DoG only does that half the time

Other times it flies in circles overhead

[real silo]

That just means he's a hybrid

[mighty zenith]

by this definition worms are eyes

[real silo]

Bro transitions mid fight

[sinful adder]

Yes, that's correct

Oh yeah, eyes have phase transitions mostly

[warm gull]

worms have always been eyes

garbo you said it yourself

[real silo]

This is a really funny message out of context

[mighty zenith]

i was referring to this

[real silo]

Queen ares 💅

[warm gull]

worm bosses don't really have any solidified single behavior so they aren't a real category

[mighty zenith]

i guess DS and perfs are kinda grounded though

[warm gull]

nah they attempt to position themselves on top of the player

[sinful adder]

Both are true

[warm gull]

eow and destroyer are also technically affected by gravity but that isn't the point

they have no collision

[autumn cypress]

KS is a turd because you can make him stationary

[sinful adder]

Even destroyer and EoW can't fly

[warm gull]

and they don't stand on the ground

[devout grotto]

Yeah true

[sinful adder]

What would it take to make a completely new kind of boss

[autumn cypress]

EOW is also a turd because you can make all phases coil you forever

[warm gull]

nah

it's an eye

[sinful adder]

It has to not:
Charge at you
Not charge at you
Be grounded
Not be grounded?

[warm gull]

it is a boss that attempts to move towards the player in a straight line and deal contact damage

that is the definition of an eye

[autumn cypress]

He still has to follow the logic of his body, so he is a worm

[warm gull]

no

worms are not a category

this is established canon

[sinful adder]

All the segments just follow the head, which acts like an eye

[warm gull]

^

[autumn cypress]

Coiling happens on eow because he tries to make his body movements make sense sometimes

Eoc doesn’t do that

[sinful adder]

Irrelevant

[warm gull]

eye of cthulhu doesn't have any body segments

[autumn cypress]

So he doesn’t have to obey making them make sense

[sinful adder]

Segments follow the head, head acts like an eye

[warm gull]

doesn't matter what follows the head, the eow is an eye

[sinful adder]

If eye of Cthulhu had extra body segments, it would act mostly just like EoW

[autumn cypress]

Make any of the eye bosses coil then, you can make eow and dog coil

[sinful adder]

Coiling doesn't matter

The segment behavior doesn't matter because the segments simply follow the head

[autumn cypress]

The infinitely circle you and do nothing, eyes don’t do that

[warm gull]

coiling isn't a behavior, it's a consequence of consecutive eye behaviors performing in tandem

[autumn cypress]

No its eyes following eyes at the maximum

[sinful adder]

Eyes can do that actually, if you turn down their "traction"

[warm gull]

they don't. you can't stand in the middle of the eow without getting hit

[autumn cypress]

You can

Infernum anyways

I haven’t fought eow outside of infernum

[warm gull]

but anyways that isn't important

worm bosses aren't a category

[sinful adder]

Idea:
What about a worm boss that never attempts to deal contact damage to you, but attempts to encircle you so that you can't escape

What would that be

[warm gull]

in fact they don't even all fall into the same category

the dog is an empress

[sinful adder]

Only half the time

It also charges at you like an eye

[autumn cypress]

Nearly every wiki would disagree on they aren’t a category part, hell the game would disagree with you. Worms are coded to be worms, head, segment, tail. Each part is coded in

[sinful adder]

What's a boss that doesn't shoot projectiles at you but also doesn't attempt to charge at you

[sinful adder]

We literally don't care. We are reducing everything to 3 categories.

That said, in the games code, you can make anything a worm and it will behave the same way

Worm isn't an inherent category

[autumn cypress]

Idiocy, also this is the lore channel

[sinful adder]

Go away

[warm gull]

this is vital lore

[sinful adder]

You clearly don't get it

Anyways, dai

[autumn cypress]

Dunno why yall are trying to make 3 categories that don’t even fit what any wiki says either

[mighty zenith]

he doesn't understand our vision

[sleek halo]

I mean he isn’t wrong on the lore channel part

[mighty zenith]

this is vital lore the writers want to hide from you

[sinful adder]

What category is a boss that neither attempts to ram you, nor attempts to shoot projectiles at you, nor is grounded

[warm gull]

worms are not a category

they are simply a visual tool

we recognize them the same way we recognize a face on the front of a car

[warm gull]

that would not be a boss

[sinful adder]

This is vital lore

[warm gull]

that would be

a pillar

[sleek halo]

not vital enough to tell someone to go away…

[sinful adder]

Pillar: secret fourth category

Pillar worm when

Spawns enemies and traps you

[sleek halo]

soo

The uh

Pillars

yeah

[sinful adder]

Yeah, except it moves

[warm gull]

pillars aren't bosses they're just event enemies

[sleek halo]

they’re literally the only thing i can think of

[sinful adder]

Pillars are the secret fourth category

[warm gull]

I guess they might be bosses?

[sleek halo]

I would say so

[warm gull]

I think you could call pillars empresses tbh

[sinful adder]

Except I guess they're more like a really shitty empress

Yeah

They summon enemies instead of projectiles

[sleek halo]

Well they don’t move to follow you at all

[sinful adder]

Cultist also does that

[warm gull]

they position themselves in a specific spot and shoot you with enemies which many terraria projectiles are enemies anyways

[sleek halo]

What would torch god be…

[sinful adder]

What other kind of attack could exist that's neither contact damage nor projectile nor enemy

[autumn cypress]

If anything worms are a category because the small cave worms, bone serpent, corruption worm, and eow all share the same basic rules

[warm gull]

torch god is an event

not an enemy

[warm gull]

all of those things you just mentioned are eyes though

[sleek halo]

Worms do tend to fall in as a mix of eoc and projectile stuff

[warm gull]

except the cave worms

wait nvm

[sinful adder]

Please stop, this isn't the point. This isn't about any of the things you are bringing up. It is exclusively about whether or not they attempt to deal contact damage

[autumn cypress]

They don’t go straight for you

[warm gull]

I thought you meant the critters

[sinful adder]

They do go straight for you, they just fail due to gravity

[autumn cypress]

They have wind up, segments, and arches

[untold oracle]

Haiai

[warm gull]

they do just like the eyes do

[sinful adder]

None of those things matter to us

[warm gull]

they attempt a head on collision

all the time

[autumn cypress]

Which drastically affects gameplay, this is about gameplay right?

[warm gull]

the fact that they have a trail following them is superficial

[sinful adder]

All that matters is that they attempt to collide with you, not how they do it

[warm gull]

no it's about behavior

boss behavior

[sinful adder]

Sort of

[autumn cypress]

Same thing

[sleek halo]

ok this genuinely may be better to talk about

[warm gull]

no it isn't

[sleek halo]

in a different channel lol

[warm gull]

boss behavior is not the same as gameplay

[sinful adder]

It is strictly about wether they:
Attempt to do contact damage
Attempt to stay away and do projectile damage
Collide with blocks

These are the 3 categories

[sleek halo]

especially since it has been going on for 40 minutes

[warm gull]

because eater of worlds is different from eye of cthulhu, which is different from Yharon, but they're all eyes

[mighty zenith]

ok yeah this would be better in like
spoiler talk even

[real silo]

This would be better in gentalk

[sleek halo]

which is a tad long

[sinful adder]

Eyes attempt to do contact damage and fly or burrow, cultists attempt to shoot projectiles at you and stay somewhere not on top of you, slimes do contact damage but also are stuck to the ground

[untold oracle]

It is time to lore.

[sinful adder]

Anyways, lore

[warm gull]

we got a real hall monitor here

[real silo]

If a dragon of darkness exists would he be friends or enemies with zeratros

Assuming their souls were split

[sleek halo]

yurp

no running in the halls

[untold oracle]

I mean I don’t think dragons of life and death hated each other

[real silo]

and would zeratros be an empress

[warm gull]

zeratros would be an eye

[untold oracle]

[warm gull]

just like every other draconic enemy

[real silo]

How do you know that...

What if he doesn't dash at all

[warm gull]

name 1 dragon enemy that isn't an eye

[sleek halo]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

no more

[real silo]

um uhh uuhhhh

[warm gull]

all the offshoots and the actual dragons are eyes

[sinful adder]

Waaaa waaaa waaa

[real silo]

ok ok

if a dragon of gluttony is fat and can't fly

but it can roll

[untold oracle]

Is Zeratros’ gender mentioned anywhere?

[real silo]

is it an eye or a slime

[warm gull]

dragon of gluttony would be a slime

grounded enemies are always slimes pretty much

[sinful adder]

What's an enemy that acts like the flinx. Still a slime?

Yeah

[real silo]

No but I think it's reasonable to assume zeratros is male

[warm gull]

astrageldon phase 1 is a slime and phase 2 is an empress

[untold oracle]

#general-talk

[real silo]

King of the dragons and all

[untold oracle]

Awh…

[sinful adder]

Do you really have to police us

[warm gull]

does seem a bit unnecessary...

[sleek halo]

I would assume they kinda lost the concept

[warm gull]

but anyways

[sleek halo]

of gender

[real silo]

Would zeratros mate

[sleek halo]

overtime

maybe never had it

until ppl

[warm gull]

dragon of gluttony should be a fat bug dragon

big fat beetle

[untold oracle]

I think they did have several children throughout time

[real silo]

Well at least some would still reproduce because that's how we got offshoots

[sleek halo]

I personally think Zeratros

never had kids

[warm gull]

draconic offshoots are dragon children

[real silo]

We know frost has descendants

[sleek halo]

Same with Yharon

[sinful adder]

What if the lihzards are zeratros' and Xeroc's children

[real silo]

What about the "folly is yharon's descendants" theory

[sleek halo]

What if I explode you

[untold oracle]

I personally think all auric souls weren’t initially given and the children of the dragons got them until they ran out, then we got the offshoots

[sinful adder]

Pre ascension I mean

[real silo]

WHAT

[warm gull]

I could see follies being yharon's offshoots tbh

[real silo]

WHAT

[sleek halo]

I could, but I don’t think they are

[warm gull]

actually

[sleek halo]

because I feel like Yharon would cling to that family

[warm gull]

they might be vetrasyl's

[real silo]

Both bird
Both will have electric attacks

[sleek halo]

not to mention

Yharim.

[real silo]

Vetrasyl already has descendants in the form of byeverns

[sleek halo]

Yharim would never allow us

to kill a descendant of Yharon

[warm gull]

yharim allows you to kill yharon

[real silo]

Why not

They aren't auric dragons

[sleek halo]

He knows Yharon can come back

[warm gull]

he literally allows you to kill yharon

[real silo]

I don't think yharim would mind

[sleek halo]

Yharon also went out of his way

to go for you

[warm gull]

he says "perhaps he will return"

[real silo]

The offshoots aren't super special

[warm gull]

he doesn't know for sure

[sleek halo]

i guarantee he is not doubting Yharon’s ability to return

[warm gull]

and he has no guarentee that someone won't ascend with his soul

[sleek halo]

Well tbf they’d have to find the Aerie

which good fucking luck

if Draedon can’t find it

Some random schmuck wont

[warm gull]

also dragonfollies also go for you anyways

just like yharon did

[sleek halo]

idk I personally don’t see them tied

to Yharon

[real silo]

What if killing yharim and yharon just permanently locks everyone out of the aerie

[sleek halo]

Because I also like the idea

[warm gull]

yeah they seem mote vetrasyl

[real silo]

It's just an empty alternate dimension that no one can ever visit again

[sleek halo]

of Yharon being truly alone

Yes there is offshoots

but none coming from him

And his only companion mere years away from dying

[real silo]

Even if they came from him

That's like trying to befriend your great great great grandchildren

[untold oracle]

I headcanon Yharim has the mandate of the Aerie and it passes down to you once you beat him

[warm gull]

with no dragons I'd assume that its power would eventually fade

[sleek halo]

still some general idea of family

[real silo]

Aerie eventually losing its power and crashing into some poor country