#lore-discussion

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mighty zenith
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enemy of my enemy is my friend

sleek halo
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Primordial Wyrm

mighty zenith
untold oracle
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Uh huh

sleek halo
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Is stronger than Yharon

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And Scal

hot valve
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Jared is stronger than Yharon

light linden
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OH THEM

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I need to fight them someday

sleek halo
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and the Exo Mechs

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brother is literally the second strongest thing on the planet

hot valve
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Isn’t yharim stronger

sleek halo
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yea

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second

untold oracle
hot valve
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Xeroc is 1st

sleek halo
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As Xeroc is not rly confirmed to be

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on the planet

mighty zenith
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we dunno if xeroc is even there yeah

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and noxus obv doesnt count

sleek halo
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So I never count him

hot valve
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Okay I assumed strongest on the planet meant like resides there

mighty zenith
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xeroc is maybe like rayquaza

deft vessel
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I mean, you 🫵

mighty zenith
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just chilling in the ozone layer

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waiting for assholes to invade

sleek halo
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But yeah uh

light linden
sleek halo
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Jared kinda crazy strong

hot valve
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If the strongest wrestler from America went to Spain for a month I’d still call him strongest wrestler in America

light linden
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who is jared?

mighty zenith
sleek halo
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Jared is a nickname

deft vessel
light linden
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ah

split mortar
mighty zenith
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actually
deoxys is my prob favorite mythical

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but my favorite gen 3 mon is easily flygon

hot valve
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Jared being stronger than the exos feels so weird

sleek halo
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I find it so funny that his bestiary is just

mighty zenith
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coolest dragon type

deft vessel
mighty zenith
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GIVE HIM A MEGA PLEASE

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i will cry

sleek halo
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“Yeah if he saw Xeroc, it’s on sight”

mighty zenith
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if they shaft flygon again

hot valve
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Like frankly I just feel like the exos would stomp Jared but I know that’s not canonically true

sleek halo
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Idk

light linden
hot valve
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Although tbh I don’t think Jared can actually
Leave the water

sleek halo
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He can

light linden
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I tried making one for my fan game

sleek halo
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he gets enraged

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on the surface

light linden
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I can see why they stopped trying

hot valve
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I mean in game yeah, not sure if that’s like canonical though

deft vessel
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Maby he cant breathe above ground so he tries to just brute force you

hot valve
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Frankly I don’t know how storm weaver and the devourer fly

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Like at all

light linden
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also do we know what eidolon wyrms eat?

hot valve
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I think Jared also flies?

deft vessel
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Magic

hot valve
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That feels definitely not canon

hot valve
deft vessel
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Reaver sharks iirc

sleek halo
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so it is canon

hot valve
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Says reaver sharks are top predator which makes me think it’s more like that reavers eat wyrms

hot valve
sleek halo
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designed to

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yea

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But also Jared getting enraged on surface also makes sense

hot valve
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Actually doesn’t the aquatic scourge literally fly too

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How tf

mighty zenith
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wyrms are silly so i can absolutely buy jared being able to fly

deft vessel
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Also scoog

light linden
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bottom layer of the abyss seems like a mess of everyone eats each other

hot valve
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For the most part literally yes

sleek halo
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in general

light linden
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prolly only still has life because of silva

mighty zenith
deft vessel
sleek halo
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But Idk I personally fully can believe

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Jared is stronger

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The first of his species

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So he is closest to the auric lineage

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then blessed by Silva

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who is a pretty strong god afaik

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And the average Eidolon Wyrm

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already is equal in strength and stuff

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to an auric dragon

split mortar
sleek halo
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that is from reb

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and it is just statements

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But if it is accurate (now with the addition of god of space)

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Silva is the 3rd strongest we know of

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Though technically I imagine ravager is still

split mortar
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I doubt silva is weaker then providence or Ravager seeing as braelor and jared are busted strong

sleek halo
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counted as a god

hot valve
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ravager’s a weird case

sleek halo
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She said GoS is

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weaker than provi

hot valve
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There’s that whisper of him having two auric souls

sleek halo
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but obviously ravager itself is being retiered above her iirc

sleek halo
split mortar
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Yeah I think they do

hot valve
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Some of the writers have hinted at why ravager is above providence while god of sacrifices isn’t

split mortar
dusk laurel
hot valve
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They said there is a reason ravager drops are directly related to the Blood God

sleek halo
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but like

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how

hot valve
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My guess is that the God of Blood was either sacrificed willingly or unwillingly to revive God of Sacrifices

mighty zenith
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they were lovers

split mortar
sleek halo
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Literally 1 thing

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of that

mighty zenith
sleek halo
cosmic zenith
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The Guh of Blod

split mortar
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Yea

dusk laurel
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Guh????

cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
hot valve
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I think pre ascension, two siblings could have each killed two dragons
One becoming the god of sacrifices and the other the god of blood

mighty zenith
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melon guy home of phobia arc

split mortar
hot valve
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Lovers also works

sleek halo
mighty zenith
cosmic zenith
hot valve
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I have no idea what dragon created the god of blood though

cosmic zenith
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Not like that

deft vessel
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Why did Melon invent phobias

sleek halo
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ik

hot valve
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I theorized dragon of oaths?

mighty zenith
split mortar
sleek halo
cosmic zenith
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Dragon of Carnage™️

mighty zenith
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carnage like

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the venom guy

hot valve
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Is that like true or just your theory

cosmic zenith
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(No this is not a spoiler)

sleek halo
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No way

hot valve
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Oh okay lmao

sleek halo
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thinking about it

split mortar
light linden
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random thing

hot valve
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Were they actually lovers

sleek halo
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with how absurdly strong Jared is

mighty zenith
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i hope i accidentally predicted it

sleek halo
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What would’ve happened if he got an auric soul

hot valve
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Honestly the God of Blood sacrificing themself to revive their lover is 🔥

dusk laurel
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Peam

sleek halo
deft vessel
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🔥✍️

sleek halo
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I imagine the dude was already insanely storng

light linden
hot valve
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And yet them become mixed in some unholy abomination
But hey! They’re together, literlly bound

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So real

mighty zenith
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make the two most fucked-up sounding gods really passionate lovers

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it would be so awesome

sleek halo
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I personally think GoS was

mighty zenith
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it would be so cool

sleek halo
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rather chill

light linden
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still dk how the god of blood could've became a thing

hot valve
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Yeah iirc it’s like said God of Sacrifices was actually super benevolent

mighty zenith
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why not

light linden
mighty zenith
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god domains are pretty open

light linden
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but I can't think of a dragon we haven't already seen killed that could lead to blood

hot valve
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What dragon created god of blood is actually pretty hard to narrow down

deft vessel
light linden
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could see life leading to it but they're already taken

split mortar
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Flesh

hot valve
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Dragon of Family or something, goes for the more bloodline thing
Dragon of Oaths/Pacts could go for agreements, with blood often being the price for high ones

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Drsgon**

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Not god

sleek halo
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Domains change pretty drastically

light linden
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they're at least somewhat related though

hot valve
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Gluttony becoming slime is a pretty huge change with the link being “slimes are gluttonous”

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That’s pretty specific lmao

sleek halo
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Gluttony (a concept) -> Slime (literally slimes)

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Death (An aspect of the world) -> Sacrifice (To give something up)

warm gull
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too many new messages to read

deft vessel
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Just dont read

mighty zenith
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would dragon of vitality be different enough from life

sleek halo
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Feels like an offshoot

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from Life

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like a domain a god would have

mighty zenith
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maybe like
a direct descendant

deft vessel
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You could make it Dragon of health

mighty zenith
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since the dragon of life is apparently one of the first dragons

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to gain a domain

sleek halo
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Death, Life, and I assume Rebirth

warm gull
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I don't see why they'd be different but cal dragon domains are usually pretty arbitrary and some are extremely specific and weird

hot valve
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Dragon of Flesh as melon gun said is possible
Thinking flesh as in it being “Dragon of the Body” more or less

sleek halo
hot valve
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Domain is physical being

sleek halo
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Thinkijg about it

warm gull
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I think stip said the blood god came from the dragon of form

hot valve
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Form? Yeah that works

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Dragon of flesh or physical body etc

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Form is a good word for that

sleek halo
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If there’s a Dragon of Gravity, there’s probably a dragon of inertia

hot valve
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dragon of energy sounds as strong as it implies

untold oracle
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All the poor ppl floating endlessly before Dragon of gravity introduced themselves

mighty zenith
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whenever thinking of domains my brain just wanders to thaumcraft

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😭

sleek halo
mighty zenith
sleek halo
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literally

hot valve
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I think there’s definitely a dragon for each of the ‘7 sins’
I think dragons based on the 4 horseman of the apocalypse is also not out of the question

sleek halo
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7 sins 7 virtues likely

light linden
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ngl

mighty zenith
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7 shenrons...

hot valve
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I’m not so familiar with the 7 virtues, what are they?

light linden
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I wonder what civilizations there were on the surface

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we don't really know of any right?

deft vessel
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I feel like motion would really strong

warm gull
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dragons of form is such a vague name for the domain tho

pliant ruin
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the opposite of the seven sins

warm gull
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and like

pliant ruin
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its like

deft vessel
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Bravery

sleek halo
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ok actually uh

deft vessel
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Generosity

mighty zenith
sleek halo
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Conquest feels like

deft vessel
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Contempt

mighty zenith
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dragon of matter???

sleek halo
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It’d be the domain

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that comes from

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War

pliant ruin
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Dragon of transformations

warm gull
pliant ruin
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if you really want something about shapeshifting

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just do like

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dragon of transformations or dragon of illusions idk

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dragon of form is rly vague

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like rly rly rly vague

hot valve
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I think it would be really funny if there was
Dragon of War -> God of Conquest
Dragon of Wrath -> God of War

pliant ruin
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and nondescriptive

sleek halo
hot valve
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Would be so silly lmao

dusk laurel
strange stump
deft vessel
sleek halo
pliant ruin
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dragon of spongebob

hot valve
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If there was a dragon or god of war btw this means they lost the War
->God/Dragon of War
->Fights 1 War
->Loses

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Lmao

sleek halo
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I personally think a theoretical dragon of war

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would’ve spearheaded the fight against Fovos

pliant ruin
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god of war
look inside
loses the war

deft vessel
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OC spotted

sleek halo
hot valve
sleek halo
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I mean yea

hot valve
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I think Dragon of Sloth -> God of Dreams is like a very easy one to make

sleek halo
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true

deft vessel
dusk laurel
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GoD

deft vessel
pliant ruin
hot valve
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God of zzzzz big naps

sleek halo
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there’s so many theoretical dragons

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Ig the major thing is

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we don’t know how many existed

hot valve
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That’s true

deft vessel
sleek halo
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It could’ve easily been like 300 or smthing

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(Imo anything over a thousand is silly and absurd)

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(Too many domains)

hot valve
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Dragon of Metal…God of Machines..

deft vessel
sleek halo
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with like 90% of then being around equal strength

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if not more

hot valve
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Yeah considering auric souls were a limited resource I’m not sure there should be THAT many dragons

sleek halo
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outlier like Zeratros existing

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not being common at all

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aand dragons drastically weaker also not being super common

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I still personally think SG could be average strength if not a tiny bit weaker if he didn’t literally go against his own domain

hot valve
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Yeah he tries to avoid gluttony doesn’t he?

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Man slime god is going to be such an interesting character when we actually get information about them

sleek halo
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hope so

hot valve
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I’m sure Statis will give us quite a bit

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I still think Slime God was the founder/leader of the Onyx Kinsmen

sleek halo
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being less

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Because of ppl eating like 2 auric souls, and obviously Yharon

hot valve
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Yeah I’m assuming any dragon that got culled by Fovos did not become a god

sleek halo
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probably

pliant ruin
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dragon of spinglebib

sleek halo
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nope

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false

pliant ruin
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sproingobonb 🥹

hot valve
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Statis is going to be a big help in Slime God’s lore because atm the reason we fight SG is like

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Not clear at all?

sleek halo
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fucked with his balance now he angy

hot valve
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I’m sure he’ll go into why he worships(ed) SG and maybe who they were before ascension if my theory is correct

pliant ruin
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a femboy

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we know that much :p

sleek halo
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ngl I personally think of most gods just having

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mental issues

pliant ruin
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well actually it's just a headcanon from a dev so technically it could be Not True

hot valve
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Onyx kinsmen led by a femboy this is the writing we need

hot valve
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Well I think that headcanon is dope so

hot valve
sleek halo
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I mean like

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Braelor is a twink

hot valve
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providence clearly is not sound of mind lets be real

pliant ruin
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statis is a twink

hot valve
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Isn’t Braelor too muscular to be a twink

pliant ruin
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braelor is NOT a twink

sleek halo
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He’s doesn’t rly look…

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super muscular tbh

hot valve
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Ig we don’t actually see the muscles but he looks…wide

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Maybe it’s just the armour though

sleek halo
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I’m pretty sure his armor might just be

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thicc

spring helm
sleek halo
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someone send his pictur

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nvm I got it

hot valve
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Okay if nothing else he’s like quite tall lmao

sleek halo
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HIS ARMOR THICK BRUH

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LOOK AT THAT

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THEM SHOULDER PADS CRAZY

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also he got that pretty boy face

hot valve
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This dude went blade to blade against yharim I’m still expecting a 12 pack under that chest plate I’ll be fr

sleek halo
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I personally view yharim as like

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a strongman type

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and Braelor as a body builder physique

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idk why

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but yharim does look a lot

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wider

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than Braeor

hot valve
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Yharim is also like 8 ft tall

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I don’t even know what race yharim actually is

sleek halo
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braelor as far as I can tell

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has like

hot valve
sleek halo
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the body builder physique

devout grotto
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I kinda imagine Braelor to be a bit muscular but not bodybuilder levels of muscular

sleek halo
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yea

devout grotto
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Hope y'all don't mind me bringing up pictures of Hoyoverse characters as examples

sleek halo
spare pier
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I imagine Braelor's physique to be Goku-like

proven rivet
spare pier
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I think him not being buff would be really weird and Goku is a good middle ground between buff and still normal

sleek halo
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Yea

spare pier
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You aren't wrong

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May I bring attention to the fact that Julius Caesar was a switch

sleek halo
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I love how a singular mushroom got onto his armor

spare pier
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He was bi and a bottom

sleek halo
hot valve
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Go off Caesar

spare pier
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Well ok to explain it more properly

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He was known as every women's men, and every men's women

devout grotto
hot valve
devout grotto
hot valve
# devout grotto

They created this guy and he looks like purple Byleth and his name is Dr. Ratio

split mortar
devout grotto
warped summit
sleek halo
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I just realized this

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Braelor does not have boots

devout grotto
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Huh CalWheeze

sleek halo
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and now I have the image of him stubbing his toe rly badly in my head

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(And whatever he stubbed it on gets obliterated in the process)

devout grotto
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Wait this made me think of how male Dendro characters usually have popular MLM ships with them

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Braelor would 100% fit right into them CalWheeze

hoary berry
hot valve
deft vessel
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I dont know these characters anymore…

spare pier
devout grotto
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Braelor my favorite Dendro character ☝🏼

deft vessel
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GI refused to update

devout grotto
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O the second pic is from a different game

hot valve
devout grotto
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But also made by Hoyo

sleek halo
deft vessel
sleek halo
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What do you think of the idea of gods having weapons (if yk capable of wielding one) imbued with their essence

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Like someone like providence probably does not need a weapon

deft vessel
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Probably if they still had hands post-ascencion

sleek halo
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let alone be capable of fucking holding it

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She aint got no HANDS

hot valve
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Man losing hands must suck tbh

sleek halo
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and from was shown from ravager

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He kinda just

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makes his own

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Ravager does not need a weapon, ravager is the weapon

deft vessel
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If you dont get some magic telekinesis, i would suck for real

warm gull
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gods can probably just telekinesis shit around if they don't have hands

sleek halo
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Maybe

spring helm
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Super Ant Braelor when

sleek halo
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But maybe they have followers for that very reason

hot valve
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I feel like majority of gods do not have access to telepathy

sleek halo
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literally just incapable of making shit

hot valve
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The god of space can probably control objects to move them around though

sleek halo
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I kinda imagine the god of space

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as a humanoidish figure

hot valve
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God of Space with a Giant floating sword…

deft vessel
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Tyrian has a hand so he could use stuff

hot valve
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Goes hard

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Actually doesn’t tyranian literally have a trident

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Am I misremembering

warm gull
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well if not telekinesis, what is providence doing when she throws energy bolts and crystals and rocks at you?

hot valve
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producing them

sleek halo
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magic

hot valve
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Yeah

sleek halo
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like her fire

warm gull
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yes but, she's also moving them??

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that's telekinesis

hot valve
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I assume she flaps and hurls them

warm gull
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and telekinesis is also magic so

sleek halo
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I mean I assume that would be limited

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to control over your own magic

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not over just general things

hot valve
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isn’t telekineses the movement of a physical object with your mind

warm gull
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yes

hot valve
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While conjuring magic wouldn’t be a physical object but like…literal mana

sleek halo
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Yk I wonder if the god of space

hot valve
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Trying to explain magic with physics makes my brain hurt tbh lmao

sleek halo
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literally just hung out in space

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Well their domain isn’t yk

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space space

hot valve
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yeah

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I mean it would definitely let them practice their powers without fear of damaging the world around them

sleek halo
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Cuz ngl that’d be an insane domain

hot valve
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So I wouldn’t be surprised

sleek halo
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I mean the domain they have is still

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crazy strong

hot valve
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Very

sleek halo
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second strongest for a reason

hot valve
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I would love to play a god of space addon mod
Obviously not canon but that just sounds like a really cool fight

sleek halo
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Yea

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I would love to make my own addon

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for my guy

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but it wouldn’t really make sense since he fucking died

light linden
warm gull
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tinkus

pliant ruin
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binkus

deft vessel
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Tbh i would like to see a list of all the OC gods. That could be interesting

tropic oak
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oc gods?

split mortar
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Like someone having justice as their domain

pliant ruin
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gold

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i love gold

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dabloons

tropic oak
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interesting

pliant ruin
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malicious

tropic oak
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mami

pliant ruin
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me : D

split mortar
light linden
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ngl the only god I'd wanna see is one related to alchemy

deft vessel
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Dem dabloonies

light linden
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is it ever explained whether making potions involves magic btw?

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or is it more chemistry than alchemy?

deft vessel
spring helm
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hello lore channel

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i made an image

light linden
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some are prolly magic now that I think about it

spring helm
dusk laurel
light linden
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there's no chemical that can make a ring of fire around you if you drink it iirc

dusk laurel
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We need a new one with the new core

spring helm
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very well

hoary berry
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my internet is dying

light linden
dusk laurel
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SG is getting resprited and slightly reworked

light linden
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just looked at it

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don't really like it

spring helm
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i dont have the image

light linden
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new paladins are cool though

spring helm
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someone send it

dusk laurel
spring helm
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why gif form

dusk laurel
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Idk

light linden
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it looks like something trapped in a bunch of webs

dusk laurel
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Current SG core already doesn't look like a slime

light linden
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oh this reminds me

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do truffles have any kind of lore?

sinful adder
spring helm
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that fits

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Slime God intentionally doesn't eat much

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or at all

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the paladins do all the eating

dusk laurel
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I like the purified gel shell, it makes sense that the weakest god we know of has protective casing

spring helm
dusk laurel
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How is this even more peak

spring helm
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@ Rebecca is this what happened

indigo python
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slime god is a twink??

dusk laurel
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Was

indigo python
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aw

light linden
warm gull
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why do yall fake ping people just do it

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what's gonna happen

spring helm
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ok

spring helm
spare pier
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Probably

warm gull
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fuck you

himbos your twink

brave dew
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Why is calamitas' name ingame "supreme calamitas" instead of just calamitas

dusk laurel
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Supreme Witch, Calamitas

brave dew
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Ooohh

light linden
spare pier
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Shoot

light linden
spare pier
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

light linden
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fair enough

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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In my belief, Magic isnt "magic" in calamity, its just what they call their own physics in verse out of convenience. Like we could just as well call the science shit we do today for Magic

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giant glowing orbs in the sky

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levitating trains

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items that can predict the weather, tell the time, communicate with people across the globe and project images, all while still fitting in your pocket

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Manipulating wavelengths to active contraptions telepathically

warm gull
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yes in most fantasy universes magic is part of the laws of nature

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dunno what you mean about it not really being magic tho?

fierce pagoda
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i mean like

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they could just call it "quantum physics" or anything else

warm gull
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electricity and radiation are basically magic

fierce pagoda
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it didnt have to be named magic, they just call it that cuz it fits what it describes

warm gull
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it isn't quantum physics

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they call it magic because thats what the word means in our modern understanding

fierce pagoda
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i know i was just trying to explain to you what i meant by "it isnt really magic"

warm gull
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mystical flashy shit that can't be explained by irl physics

fierce pagoda
#

In our world, we have all this crazy shit, yet we say magic doesnt exist

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but in cal world, they just settled for calling it magic

warm gull
#

we don't call it magic because we have alternate names for it

#

however

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in the past

fierce pagoda
#

thats what i mean

warm gull
#

we have explained to a lot of natural phenomena as being caused by magic

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we have religions and mytholgies which were people coming up with magical explanations for things that we understand the processes and workings of now

fierce pagoda
#

Wish Scientists would just accept getting silly and start calling shit Magic

#

like dark matter and dark energy n shit

warm gull
#

the name magic isn't very descriptive or specific

split mortar
#

Dark (Input thing)is basically sciences way of saying magic we dunno I think

warm gull
#

just like how most fantasy universes have specific types of magic that are explained

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like "fire bending" or "necromancy" or "telekinesis" or "divination"

fierce pagoda
light linden
#

this entire argument

scienceisnotmagic.jpg
fierce pagoda
#

Necromancy in real life, uhh defibrillators

warm gull
#

they even sound fantasy

fierce pagoda
#

I wish I knew it all

split mortar
#

Dark magic is even a common subset of mysterious and unknown or spooker magic

fierce pagoda
#

Mana is just a form of matter in calamity

#

if the building blocks of real life are quarks

#

what are the building blocks of reality in calamity

#

its just quarks there too

light linden
#

magic

#

jokes aside idt we'll ever know

fierce pagoda
#

we can speculate though

#

its not as if we know in real life either really, i mean we do but like

#

what lies beyond ever quarks

warm gull
#

well magic could be made of a similar fundamental partical to quarks

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or something like electrons

fierce pagoda
#

What if it was all made of something similar to primordial light

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and thats why primordial light is so powerful

warm gull
#

although I honestly doubt the lore writers have looked into this at all tbh

fierce pagoda
#

cuz its the bulding blocks of reality in calamity

fierce pagoda
split mortar
#

Primordial light is the quark to manaclueless

fierce pagoda
#

yeah thats what i was thinking

split mortar
#

Hence why boss rush could copy the bosses so well despite their different magics

#

Primordial light be copying the magics by basically actually becoming it

fierce pagoda
#

hell yeah

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are souls related to mana?

#

what if energy in our world, is what mana is to calamity?

#

like mana is just energy

#

or is the energy in a battery seperate from the energy in mana in calverse?

#

or could they be one in the same

#

nah screw this let me ask about something that actually matters

#

why does killing Plantera make the dungeon stronger?

magic epoch
#

iirc, plantera contains souls?

hoary berry
fierce pagoda
#

alright how about this

#

why does killing moonlord make the dungeon stronger?

magic epoch
#

i think that some of these are just gameplay for purposes

fierce pagoda
#

were the pink souls and polter hiding before or something??

dusk laurel
#

Polter has a seal put on it iirc

#

Spawn method is changing

fierce pagoda
#

damn you gameplay for not reflecting the lore!!!SAD

#

even if the spawn method is changing

#

i dont think its gnna be moves pre moonlord

#

unless it was

#

that would be cool as hell

light linden
#

personally I think it should be the first post ml boss

fierce pagoda
#

what if you could just access certain bosses WAYYY earlier that you were supposed too, and also have it be intended

#

and have it be because of you curiosty

light linden
hoary berry
fierce pagoda
#

like "ohh what does this shiny sword do in the dungeon..." then you interact with it and polter spawns

light linden
#

why would it take so long for it to go out of control

warm gull
#

actually if polter was just free in the dungeon and you just never happened to encounter it that would be hilarious

fierce pagoda
#

or "wow this giant Alter looks cool..." then ravagers spawns and kills you

fierce pagoda
#

what if even the hardmode requirement was lifted

dusk laurel
#

polter and ravager will effectively be on the same tier once rav gets reworked

fierce pagoda
#

like if you visit the dungeon post skeletron, you can still fight polterghast if you do something

#

or if you visit ravagers altar early, you can still spawn him in

dusk laurel
#

It gets summoned by you tampering with its sword

hoary berry
#

EoL is also available post-wof

dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
#

expect for Yharon kinda

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cuz you have to do it in such a round about way

#

it doesnt really feel intended

hoary berry
#

i don't know if it was intended when it first became possible who knows how many years ago, but i imagine it is very much intended that it is still a thing

fierce pagoda
#

some times, having be bosses locked behind other bosses makes sense for the lore and thats fine

#

but when the lore isnt in the way, it would be cool to have more bosses availible early

fierce pagoda
#

like you have to go out of your way to find out its even possible

#

how do you even do it again? kill the cultist, start the event, get the solar pillar and then use the fragments to make Folly spawner then craft the egg

#

like who would think of sparing the rest of the pillars, to go on a side quest to kill Yharon,

light linden
#

hey random question

#

do we know anything about the alloys draedon keeps talking about?

spring helm
#

which alloy

light linden
#

really any of the ones

#

he mainly talks about them in the exo mech lore talk iirc

split mortar
#

Oh, that’s a alloy using cosmilite

dusk laurel
#

That is an alloy that uses cosmilite

#

I was too slow,,,

split mortar
#

🐌

spring helm
#

that's about all we know

split mortar
#

It’s also very fucking heavy if made molecule by molecule

light linden
#

what about what he used for making the arsenal?

dusk laurel
#

We just kinda threw a bunch of stuff together

#

Draedon would not have had access to aerealite

split mortar
#

He did have mythril

#

But not plague

#

Well

dusk laurel
#

And likely not profaned ore [thing that will replace uelibloom]

split mortar
#

Not yet

light linden
dusk laurel
light linden
#

for context I'm tryna make stuff regarding that godseeker knight boss fight

split mortar
#

We know they weren’t allowed godslayer aresenal tier

spring helm
split mortar
#

Doesn’t his talk about Thanatos mention how it’s made?

spring helm
#

i know he mentioned how it was made, but i assumed that it was also just a lot thicker than the others'

#

it would be funny if the Terrarian looked at Draedon's meticulously made blueprints with very exact instructions, and then just went

"oh but I got this new material I'm just gonna substitute what's in the blueprint with it"

light linden
#

something about layers growing over each other

real silo
#

Exo mech alloy is clearly made with exodium

#

has exo in its name
is black

real silo
#

There's the blue greenish metal and the dark grey metal and thanatos' black metal

sinful adder
#

This is probably likely, exodium and cosmilite mixed

upbeat pollen
#

question, are the lore items canon. Like obviously the lore we get from them is canon, but yharim talking to us and explaining the lore

real silo
#

There will be a replacement for the items themselves but we don't know what yet

upbeat pollen
#

huh, weird. Prob for the best tho

spring helm
#

no more telepathic Yharim

upbeat pollen
#

also I was reading the lore doc, and - question, do we know anything more about Braelor? Statis seams cool and I'm excited to see more of him, but Braelor seems like a decently major name but I don't know anything about him really

spring helm
#

champion of Silva

upbeat pollen
#

He was strong, had an axe forged by Silva, and attempted assassination on Yharim one time

spring helm
#

in a relationship with Statis

upbeat pollen
#

oh shit

#

good for them good for them

spring helm
#

really fucking strong

upbeat pollen
#

im assuming this is half a joke but honestly it'd be amazing to actually be canon

dusk laurel
#

It is

upbeat pollen
#

Perfect

sinful adder
#

it's canon, they gay, they even shared a room in Ilmeris before the incineration

hot valve
#

They did?

dusk laurel
#

Ya

hot valve
#

Were they just like visiting or

spring helm
#

they were roommates

dusk laurel
#

They were actual roommates

#

Why am I so slow,,,

hot valve
#

Wait they lived in Ilmeris for a time??

spring helm
#

Snaillin

spring helm
sinful adder
#

yes

#

we don't know any details

hot valve
#

Ah okay

sinful adder
#

will be able to find the room in SSO

hot valve
#

That’s based

light linden
#

hey quick question

#

do we know of anyone other than yharim who was attuned to an auric dragon?

dusk laurel
#

Possibly Xeroc

#

He had an auric mask on his face, I doubt it was hovering like a micrometer away from his face at all times

real silo
#

Xeroc was indeed attuned

#

Maybe silva was too

warped rapids
#

how do we use it for armour and stuff when we still get rejected whenever we touch it

dusk laurel
#

The auric bars we make has fragments of Yharon's soul in there to stop the rejection

scenic olive
scenic olive
upbeat pollen
warped rapids
#

aaah

upbeat pollen
#

this was stated by amidas

warped rapids
#

ripoff auric

upbeat pollen
#

essentially

#

your auric armor is significantly weaker than Yharim's even by default

scenic olive
#

At least terrarian built it by themselvess

#

not with the help of a nerd robot

sinful adder
#

it is actually the same except for the ability to reject you

#

but rejection is a powerful defensive and offensive ability

spring helm
#

The mock attuned auric is weaker in the sense that you don’t get to explode people just by touching them

sinful adder
#

the exo tech does improve yharim's armor though, and you don't get that

#

yeah

spring helm
#

Why the fuck is Draedon not dripping us out in exo auric armour too

#

Doesn’t he want to see us win

sinful adder
#

not sure

#

he probably doesn't care

light linden
#

just realized something

#

imagine if killing yharon made yharim start getting rejected by his armor

magic epoch
#

good luck killing yharon though

light linden
#

we have

magic epoch
#

yharon is the dragon of rebirth

#

they respawn

light linden
#

and

magic epoch
#

they rebirth

light linden
#

doesn't change the fact they died

magic epoch
#

not really

#

death is a relative term when you will inevitably come back to life

scenic olive
#

did you kill him?
yeah
did he die

#

nope

tropic oak
#

yes he does revive

#

yet he is dead

high lynx
#

Well his soul splintered this time

#

Thats why we have yharon soul fragments

magic epoch
#

idont think any of this true

#

like

light linden
#

the 50 cal in his face sure makes him seem dead

magic epoch
#

idk

scenic olive
high lynx
#

Yeah but that chips away

#

So after he dies enough he might not come back

magic epoch
#

that's a steal!!

scenic olive
#

hear me out

#

what if

#

His Soul can somehow regenerate

#

maybe thats whats delaying the rebirth

magic epoch
#

yharon is actually just weak

scenic olive
#

It needs to fully recover all thats been lost from their death

#

I mean

gritty kraken
magic epoch
#

bro loses to a shield made of cobalt and mollusk shells

scenic olive
#

It took a decade or so for them to rebirth

magic epoch
real totem
#

okay so like relative to the current endgame bosses (lore-wise) how strong is yharim

light linden
#

3rd strongest thing we know of

#

2nd is Noxus which is basically dad of DoG

real totem
#

not the verse overall, compared to those two specifically

light linden
#

1st is Xeroc

high lynx
#

Yharim

magic epoch
#

draedon is

#

a bit iffy i think

real totem
#

draedon is an engineer, not a combatant

magic epoch
#

bc draedon is kinda like

scenic olive
#

im not a spectator, IM A WARRIOR

magic epoch
#

a god but not in the calamity term

#

like he could do whatever the fuck he wants

scenic olive
#

Flies off to the battlefield

magic epoch
#

if he wants to

sinful adder
#

I don't think Yharon's soul regenerates, I think it makes more sense for the auric stuff to be finite

brisk ore
#

whats up lorers

brisk ore
warm gull
#

a compelling candidate

devout grotto
#

Oh yeah what even a World Soul? I've seen it mentioned here before

untold oracle
#

There once was a world soul that shattered somehow and that’s where auric dragons got their powers

#

We know basically nothing of it

warm gull
#

it's the soul of the world

#

the planet

devout grotto
split mortar
random mulch
#

what if auric armor but traditional plate armor

image.png
split mortar
#

Yharms armour before Exo Avalon maybe?

random mulch
#

nah i just thought what if it didnt have any tech cause draedon didnt make it

split mortar
#

What I said would result in no Exo tech

random mulch
#

it's not yharim's armor

split mortar
#

Oh

#

Ok

#

Looks cool btw

random mulch
#

thank

#

kinda want to make a complete redesign of at least auric melee

#

idea is also that it mistly has red & orange as an accent color instead of blue like yharim

#

also some yharon feathers on it would be neat

split mortar
#

Good luck with that

random mulch
#

also, cryogen

image.png
untold oracle
#

Would Yharon drop his entire soul if the aerie happened to be destroyed somehow

#

Also could Yharon be able to hear and feel as just the soul between rebirths

hoary rock
#

We know Draedon would like to watch you fight Yharim, and he gave you his forge and exo prisms to make weapons that could match him in battle, but do you think Draedon might lend a more direct hand in the battle, or would he rather just sit and watch?

#

Obviously he's a scientist, and part of observing these things is not to interfere, but still

#

Then again, I don't think he harbours any ill will towards yharim, just accepted that their friendship was over

spring helm
#

They weren’t even friends, they were just business partners

gritty kraken
strange stump
hoary rock
hoary rock
pliant ruin
#

capable of forming personal relationships

#

he dosen't have much of a moral compass or human emotions

hoary rock
#

True

#

Although he does say that he doesn't want to cause damage to the world

#

He has a killswitch on the plague, for instance, and will deactivate it if it hurts the biodiversity of the jungle

#

He also regrets his part in irradiating the sea

#

What was that link that was just posted for a frame?

pliant ruin
#

It's not really regret

heady vapor
#

Can we add to the lore that Yharon likes pumpkin muffins

pliant ruin
#

It's just that he goes "Yeah if i could i could clean the sulphur sea but like i'm not gonna do that"

gritty kraken
#

For the science

spring helm
#

Why would he, there’s more biodiversity the way it is right now

#

Prime research material

hoary rock
#

Either way, his modern methods are a lot tidier

pliant ruin
#

All draedon cares about is knowledge, really
The plague's development is a interesting research subject, so he keeps it alive
If it were to be an actual threat to the jungle, he'd just stop it because he dosen't want the enviroment, which is another topic one could do research on given all the biodiversity and interesting geography and etc, to be destroyed

gritty kraken
#

Watch him test nanoplague on aquatic scourge next

hoary rock
#

He was only decades old at that point, to my understanding

pliant ruin
#

That's why he wants you to

spring helm
#

Draedon is like 660

pliant ruin
#

Nobody knows how to get to the aerie

#

If draedon could get to the aerie and had weaponry strong enouhg to do so

#

I'd argue he'd 100% kill yharim himself

hoary rock
#

Well, didn't yharon directly tell you with the scal lore item?

#

Why would draedon ever kill yharim?

#

He wants to learn from seeing him fight, not kill him

spring helm
hoary rock
#

Or perhaps put a killswitch in the armour

pliant ruin
#

It's in what happens next

#

He says it himself

#

what would a figure like Yharim dying cause on the world?

#

he literally just

#

How will this affect the economy gif

hoary rock
#

Question is, was draedon a body to preserve his creator's existence, or was he more of a mega man x deal?

pliant ruin
#

We don't really know

spring helm
#

We don’t know for sure

pliant ruin
#

but i personally think Draedon is his own creator

spring helm
#

And Draedon didn’t care enough to find out

pliant ruin
#

Draedon upon existing

hoary rock
#

Yeah, draedon's a scientist, not a historian

untold oracle
pliant ruin
#

Sees dead guy
"cool"
Immediately starts making death murder robots
refuses to elaborate

spring helm
#

“I don’t know who I am. I don’t know why I am.
All I know, is that I must research.”

pliant ruin
#

Ok tbf i doubt

hoary rock
spring helm
#

Haven’t heard that in a while

pliant ruin
#

discord

#

DSICORD

#

EVIL

pliant ruin
gritty kraken
#

Draedon original purpose is clearly doing chores work

pliant ruin
#

i doubt his initial research was on military equipment like he did in the yharmy

#

but

#

its funny to think that he just immediately started making murder robots

pliant ruin
#

i don't see why he wouldn't

#

the only real reason he wants us to do it is because

  1. he can't get to the aerie
  2. exo mechs aren't strong enough
#

also we sorta broke them

strange stump
#

draedon in the megaman x verse would go hard

untold oracle
#

I think he would rather want to see someone else probably known person kill him instead of just assasinating him himself

#

Since the societal impact would be higher

pliant ruin
#

good point

spring helm
#

Would be cool if we could drag Yharim out of the Aerie and execute him in front of the town

pliant ruin
#

calamitas watching yharim suddenly show up in front of her house and then getting decapitated

#

worst rollercoaster of emotions ever

#

"i was just eating breakfast what the fuck"

gritty kraken
#

yharim fight should end with both terrarian and him get all their gears broken and now it become a fist fight

spring helm
#

“What the fuck why is he here.

Oh shit he’s dead.

Why is he dead?!??”

untold oracle
#

I’ve been wondering what my character does after returning from aerie

spring helm
#

Nap

pliant ruin
#

after killing yharim my self insert terrarian goes on to fish

untold oracle
#

More like how will the news be spread

#

”I killed Yharim btw lol”

spring helm
untold oracle
#

Yhish even?

hoary cape
#

Everyone just knows

pliant ruin
spring helm
#

Cheese write a fishing chapter right now I’m begging on my knees-

hoary cape
#

You catch the yharim fish

spring helm
untold oracle
#

Should I write a fishing chapter too since they appear to be trendy

gritty kraken
spring helm
#

It’s crazy how the resprited DoG can slurp up the other worm bosses like noodles

untold oracle
wheat walrus
spring helm
#

Nothing the Nurse can’t fix

wheat walrus
#

tomorrow...

strange stump
#

whats tomorrow

wheat walrus
#

:/

untold oracle
#

I’ve been also thinking what Calamitas would feel after she returns since they are close friends and Yharim being Yharim

gritty kraken
#

Who’s she

untold oracle
untold oracle
wheat walrus
untold oracle
#

No way

pliant ruin
#

calls amidias on shellphone
"amidias i found a cool fish can you tell me more about it i need to write it down on my fish notebook"
(she does this every time she catches a new fish)

wheat walrus
#

i saw that silly :/

strange stump
wheat walrus
#

nu :/

strange stump
#

cmoooooon

wheat walrus
#

the cake is for me silly...

untold oracle
strange stump
#

fair

#

have fun!

pliant ruin
#

amidias explaining how just because he was the king of the sunken sea he dosen't know about every fish ever

untold oracle
#

Pfft no way you’re literally a fish yourself

#

Surely you know about the Molten Sulphurfin

pliant ruin
#

my self insert would probably spend alot of time just researching the wildlife of the continent jokes aside

wheat walrus
#

who up hunting they dragons...

pliant ruin
#

i already have a pretty big interest on zoology + i already make little headcanon ecology entries for the terraria enemies anyways

#

like this one or that other one i made for the worm

Antlion.png
gritty kraken
untold oracle
#

Léa likes plants and starts collecting them at some point

#

Then she starts a garden with Calamitas

pliant ruin
#

i think my self insert would unironically ask silva out if she wasnt like dead

#

shes cute

#

ok.

#

and like

#

every other woman is evil

#

or calamitas

#

who

#

yknow

hoary cape
#

Lol asking a goddess out

untold oracle
#

At one point I thought that Léa would pick up some of the planty mush and place them down and then talk to Silva

#

But I don’t know will I make her do that

pliant ruin
#

"braelor i asked your mom out"
"what"
"who"

split mortar
untold oracle
proven rivet
#

What

pliant ruin
#

my self insert would probably avoid killing alot of bosses in the basis that i wouldn't like killing alot of the ones that are just animals
specially desert scourge since that guys technically critically endangered

#

she'd like

proven rivet
pliant ruin
#

probably defend herself until she finds a way to make it back down

untold oracle
pliant ruin
#

also no queen bee or aquascoog

#

she'd also probably hate going in the crimson and the corruption because the corruption probably smells putrid and the crimson looks disgusting

#

i do not like disgusting things

untold oracle
spring helm
pliant ruin
#

cheese calamity wakes up one day to yharim yapping in her ears and decides to check out wtf is happening

#

for consistency sake she lives alone in a village in the jungle or something

#

this is because i live alone in brazil in real life

#

so essentially the same thing

spring helm
#

Real

#

Mark should live in a melting tundra then

spring helm
# pliant ruin or calamitas

It took me a while to remember Calamitas is AroAce
I was just thinking, “does your Terrarian have a grudge against her or something?”

pliant ruin
#

my terrarian is literally me and i love callie id never

latent bolt
mighty zenith
#

i started headcanoning that the dryad started liking my terrarian but he does not care because he's basically a tree in terms of emotions

spring helm
mighty zenith
#

he's a tree literally and figuratively

spring helm
#

You know who else can turn into a tree?

mighty zenith
#

my m

strange stump
#

my uncle johnson

split mortar
#

Johnson like John wulfrum yharim calamity?

mighty zenith
#

john wulfrum's son

untold oracle
gritty kraken
#

John Wulfrum secretly making a robot that surpassed exo mech inside a cave rn

latent bolt
untold oracle
# spring helm

Wait is this from the ancient google doc you sent Yharillion years ago

#

Or who was it

mighty zenith
#

women

latent bolt
mighty zenith
#

||/j||

gritty kraken
#

What would dryad reaction be to braelor npc

untold oracle
#

Positive I assume

mighty zenith
#

i imagine she'd kneel down

#

i assume braelor is higher up in the hierarchy since he's their goddess' champion

latent bolt
#

do all dryads and other nature-based creatures recognise Silva as an authority figure or are there some who refuse to serve her

spring helm
untold oracle
#

I mean Silva is really an authority only for her worshipers

untold oracle
spring helm
#

I will once again recount the story of why I wrote it

#

2am in bed
check lore channel
Mr. Braent is freaking out about “mommy Silva” again
write short story about Silva

gritty kraken