#lore-discussion
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Nuh uh
What are thee on abouout
Context is literally in the image
No
Also your about me thing is a portal 2 reference Iâm pretty sure
Who doesnât
though now that I'm thinking about it what did garbo actually mean when he posted the blue and orange squares
@mighty zenith
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The ultimate gaming set up
i want to rewrite the first one because it feels too wordy
but idk where to begin with it

Be there or be square and no one went there
So this character is an embodiment of boss taste discussionâŠ
could a slime absorb miracle matter
Maybe?
it wont let me summon the crabulon boss
in v mush biome
?
It either gets killed instantly or fused into something incomprehensible
Very loreous
this is the only active channel
cmt is currently talking
Whatâs a cmt 
It would prob die doing that
i have cmt on my channel list now but it's muted
same with genmedia
What is gen media even about? General but you post gifs ?
for the past few months it's just been the limbus channel for the most part
Why crab is soo big
Creatures underwater are often able to get much bigger so crabulons species took that opportunity when evolving I guess
is the vanilla terraria princess npc related to the disembodied emperor dude?
Creatures in terraria are also just big sometimes
Disembodied emperor? Do you mean Yharim, the lore item guy?
No
awe man
Yharim as far as we know has not had any romantic or sexual relations so extremely unlikely
But that would be interesting if it were true
mega virgen yahrim
Virgin for 130 years
World record
This isn't in game yet but a lore writer said she came here from some faraway kingdom that wasn't destroyed by the war after hearing about some guy with the really useful skill of building houses in a day
he replaced having sex with killing people
Draedon? Yharon?
Which is pretty useful for rebuilding after a world war
Draedon: incapable of romantic or sexual attraction
Yharon: no idea
Memes donât count
Death
hanky panky? nah, hacky slashy - yahrim probably
Yharim doesnt know what sex is probably
Oooo, quite interesting
If yharon then thats a sin
Why
Being attracted to dragon
Doesnt sound weird at all
Especially if romantic attraction
It's fine. Fantasy creatures like goblins and dwarves and fish men exist
It's sapient, so it's not unethical
Are we talking about another dragon
Whatever
Well by that logic it would be yharon who is unethical, cause at minimum yharon is like almost 20X the age of yharim
no no dont say that all of you
Wha
I think it matters more that they're mentally mature, but I can understand your reasoning
gentalk but you can post images and you get yelled at for posting memes
Idc too much about the other channels
I'm more like "oh they exist" when it comes to them
Dragons probably reproduced and formed romantic relationships with one another
This is true
Auric soul hybrids
Iâd wager a guess both yhars are too hellbent on finishing the crusade to think about romantic relationships
I agree
I dont think the auric soul gets passed down
It doesn't
I agree
Yharam
Yharnam...
is there a lore reason for why dog looks different in phase 2 or is it just cool worm get cooler
Old sprite
Armor
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Itâs armour made by Draedor
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Itâs supposed to be that he armors up but that isnât really conveyed well at the moment
ah
the current sprites are old and i think they were made by two different people?
yea coz it looks like hes already wearing armour
the design direction was completely different at least
No I think enreden made them both
his body shape changes
damn i think that makes it worse đ
no offense to enreden
i like how in the resprite phase 1 is unarmored its great
is he actually gonna be that big omg
Thats gonna be so infernum
I think DoG should be resprited to 1.0 desert scourge
he is going to be quite large
not GIANT
thicc worm
but large
this big?
GLORY
Gfb version should be 3 old dogs tall and 3 providences wide
the sprite actually blinks!! which is pretty cool
well its supposed to be that already but its not really conveyed well 
THIS IS HEAT
i was in call with heart the other day with some friends of mine and she was showcasing the sprite its ist MOSLTY full glory
he blinks!!
yea it just looks like hes got shittier armour lol
its so awesome!!!
we shall see we shall see
Probably wouldnât really work in terraria but Iâm imagining him fucking up the ground like that drill worm from the live action transformers movies
yeah i wish
new size makes him way more imposing im so glad thats a thing
will make bro actually feel like he devours gods
(he wishes)
im imagining him blocking your way like a speeding train then being literally impassable when he does it
Dog is like too big to pass through with ram
In the resprite
yeah but i want him to act like an actual wall
like you can't even damage boost through
dogs a bitch
I wonder if terraria could support temporarily zooming out for cinematic moments like how some attacks are treated in mh
hashtag loser
Cause right now Iâm imagining him burrowing under you, going far into the air and the camera panning out to see him turn and dive down right towards you
Mh?
Monster hunter
I hear you will collect cosmolite liquid in the distortion, though idk how what would work
Liquid anvil
Some of the late game monsters have whatâs usually referred to as a nova where theyâll do a really big scary flashy move where the camera zooms out to make sure you can see the whole thing
bold to assume youâd last longer than 5 seconds in there after Braelor mistakes your auric ass armor and self for Yharim and he tries to fucking kill you
You get auric after getting cosmolite armour
my point stands
Yharim is also like 3 foot taller
Itâs a real âoh shitâ moment when you see the Buddhist deathstare dragon staring directly into the camera as he charges a fucking spirit bomb to toss at you
wed look like little bitch version of yharim
Braelor just lives in distortion?
be me
lose to golden armored man
be thrown in distortion
years pass
a smaller golden armored man appears
its on sight
What about his boyfriend?
no hes stuck in there
his boyfriend escaped
Doesnt he care
he dealed an arm and leg to signus
Ik
(literally)
Statis was allowed to escape at the cost of an arm and a leg
I mean why dont braelor try to escape
Presumably he made the deal thinking braelor would also be allowed to leave
because braelor is dumb
i assume they were both meant to leave and signus just monkey paw'd the shit out of them
true
I canât imagine he intentionally left him there, Signus was just being a rat bastard
"only one paid so only one gets to leave" type shit
Faustian asshole
afaik braelor is indefinitely trapped until further notice
Why dont braelor make a deal with signus
He might not want to
signus probably fucked off and didnt come back
Or that
Unlikely
we murdered signus so he is definitely never fucking off ever again
I dont think Signus ever got the chance to deal with Braelor before we dealt with him
Signus was just secretly in love with statis
That would be funny
So he made him with braelor break up
can signus even feel love
This fucked up beast of another dimension keeps itself afloat through sheer force of spite alone
I donât think he knows whoâs that
What were polter doin in pre ml
I really wanna think itâs a game design but I canât be sure
Because I find the idea of having to be sneaky and hide from polter in pre-hm thrilling
Would be funny to replace dungeon guardian with to polter
Whats the old man/clothier lore in cal?
Some dude who somehow got into the forbidden archive and got cursed by the cultists because of that
ive wanted this for a while
it would be cool and a potential homage to pre-boss old duke
Signus liked that statis is playing rogue so he let him out
Signus was happy Statis wasnât complaining about rogue in cmt
Theyâre both rogue even
Signus is probably spam rogue tho that's kinda cringe ngl
My own headcanon is that the dragon cult was in a lot of trouble because of polter so they had to forbid people from entering to the dungeon (they would be killed and added to it) so they cursed this one conveniently unlucky guy trespassing to protect the dungeon from outsiders. Dungeon guardian would just be skeletron killing you because if you die right away you wonât strengthen polter
But since there's multiple dungeon guardians does that mean there's multiple skeletrons ?
i think thats just videogame moment
Also if you are at night and summon skeletron with the old guy you still wont be able to enter the dungeon ?
also haiii gmm
Haaaiii

i like this headcanon
they just see a random homeless guy
uhhh uhhhh GO MY CURSE ok bye
Hai sleepy :3
Wdym by this? The guy probably doesnât want to be cursed. You kill skeletron so thereâs nothing else to protect the dungeon from outsiders
Anti cheese
1 guardian is easy to avoid
No but like if you summon skeletron and whiile the skeletron fight is going on you wont be able to enter the dungeon
So they added smth harder i assume
it doesnt translate perfectly obv
Dungeon guardian counts as different npc
It spawns no matter that
Im talking about lore here
realistically no one would go to the dungeon while fighting skeletron
Cat guy was telling that dungeon guardians and skeletron are the same
canonically the curse would trigger if you did that
Its just video game moment as cheese said
i imagine
I guess its some sort of cursed placed by skeletron
So thats why its disabled when he dead
does draedon use railguns?
Itâs just game design I swear 
Cat guy??? 
hi catguy
hi duckguy
hi altraxiaguy
hi catguy
i'd do that and win
thanks
random unrelated not but i headcanon dragon of flame being literally just ridley
true gamers steal shadow key from archives preboss
How????
I thought I head of something like that before
dying
Oh
Would soul domain be just heavenâs door
its sick the terrarian can kill a god thats consumed an auric soul with some lava stone armor and a bee yoyo
i love aquatic scourge
and how
the terrarian
can destroy permafrosts seal
with a clam
or a
sword on a rock
They are built different
why do we spare calamitas by beating her up
we don't spare her, she stops fighting us
big difference
we weren't even dealing any damage to her directly
Even if you destroy her shield she would just make another
nah i believe the shield takes a ton of her energy
she didnt do it in one go
Yeah
But it was a lot of power exerted continuously
(I presume it was continuous)
Do we have any idea of what the auric dragons looked like?
well there wasn't one concrete look for them all
but you could probably think of something when looking at yharon
i like to imagine they looked different with appearances decided by their domain
We know what yharon looks like, some bits of frost dragon, some details about zeratros and possibly a design for storm dragon
thatâs what I imagine
their auric souls twisted their bodies to fit their domain
Idk why
I kinda imagine DoD
wearing a dragon skull as kinda like a mask
like a cubone type deal
Death having a skull
Agreed
but itâs not actually a mask, itâs just literally part of his body
I gave my DoD a skull like face
I imagine itâs like
dragon skull for face
shredded wings
so heâs grounded
smells like
well
rot
Well more like a skull with a few muscles for jaw movement
And some eyes
I kinda have a sabertooth body plan ij mind
for his body
giant and powerful front limbs
very bulky
smaller hind legs
I feel like it would be dripping some ooze
I really like the idea of him being
Honestly I hesitate a lot when designing dragons because
extremely intimidating looks wise
But heâs rather chill
and a generally nice person
A gentle giant
Yharon really doesn't convey the rebirth aspect besides looking like a bird (phoenix)
embodies death to the fullest, never really malicious, just something that happens
but almost everyone fears
which gives him his appearance
Ngl I kinda imagine Life being the more vicious of the two
life is volatile
rapidly changing
literally fighting for survival
death is just an absolute
Death being slow and bulky while Life is fast and nimble because life is fleeting and death is permanent
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true
One being hyperactive and energetic
death is just there
and Yharon would kinda be in the middle for them
Try your hardest to flee but death will eventually get there
imo
Like I imagine Yharon would just be stoic
not rly chill but not hyperactive
just serious
I like this,
true.::
not rude either just
TRUE!
He has like
And then death is the big old dog who's chill with everyone
the most important job
i think stip confirmed this at some point
I always thought it
because it wouldnât make sense
and gods had their bodies twisted
so it fits
But i feel like he maby is a little overprotective
(I personally also think the auric souls messed with their emotions and personality)
okay not confirmed, but #lore-discussion message
I mean itâs heavily
implied
Yharon is literally a phoenix

would be a BIG fucking coincidence
if he just happened to look like a phoenix
Only other explanation would be that the auric soul went to dragons that matched them
"you look like you could scare someone into having a heart attack, here, have this auric soul of death"
"you look old as fuck have the auric soul that makes you old"
"who's the fattest fuck around we need someone for Gluttony"
I was just gonna type that
Would the auric soul of growth be given to a big boye or a small critter
I still think this guy was the dragon fo growth or something
it was me
I think this was the gluttony one
growth isn't a real dragon I made it up
I wanted one for an OC I wanted to draw (goddess of bones)
I personally think
Gluttony is like
really goofy loooking kinda
like massive head jaw and belly
rly small tail and wings
long neck
short legs
Let's play a game
Choose a random dragon from how to train your dragon and try to assign an auric soul to it
screaming death
who would EVER make up a dragon for a god u wanted to makeâŠ
Sound
Ikr what an outlandish idea
me personally
i would neverâŠ

totally also not what the devs do..
I think thereâs only 1 god without knowing the dragon behind it
Dragon of gravity would never have a canon design
ok 2
Lol?
tyrian and god of blood afaik
Ah
unless it was said here whilst I was dead
My headcanon for blood god was dragon of flesh
I still need to come up with a design
Gym bros with dragon of growth
I only made him so large A because
having him look down on Yharim is funny
also because I want a really
really big hammer
Because the handle of it is a bone from DoW
My idea for goddess of bones is she uses sharpened bones from her own body as weapons
and I made DoW rather large, like in between leviathan and Yharon
13 ft sounds like an understatement
mitchell is fucking gigantic
yea mithrix is HUGE
Idk all I remember is he's like double player height
hes like at least 15ft
Damn
his shin is longer than commando
What are we loreing here?
That hammer is proportionally what Iâm going for
you don't really get the feeling of how big ror enemies are but everything is so large
comically large guy with a comically large hammer cutting a comically large pizza
well not exactly, but a very very large
hammer head
a clay templar's gun is bigger than Commando đ
like 3ish feet of just the hammer head part
most of the mobs are fucking ginormous
So getting hit by it isnât particularly pleasant lol
famn..
Anyways continuing the game with this guy
He's so silly looking
And here's the yapper
oh flightmare
Idk
I don't actually know much about the series
because of all the teeth reminding me of an anglerfish what if there was a dragon lurking the abyssal depths
i've watched it so much and i still barely remember some of the dragon names
does he know
what do i not know
Wyrm
shut it fartraxia...
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Proof?
my word is undeniable
ribbit, ribbit, shoot, ribbit


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blood moon lore item does mention him getting silly during those
yeah
Yharim on all fours growling
Heâs kinda just losing too much and gets absolutely furious
I get to write them doing hand to hand fightintâŠ
(In which I personally donât think Yharim is bad at, just heâs a lot better with weapons)
Just not a thing heâs used to
is ur pfp like
emo calamitas
i'm not judging btw thats basd
calamitas is inherently emo but yes
I feel like for hand 2 hand heâd be very reliant on
Auric rejection
wait thats so funny actually
because thereâs literally no way for him to fight around his own auric rejection
so having to face someone resistant to it makes most of his hand 2 hand experience
fucking worthless

he does have those claws in his gauntlets iirc
Ikairam throwing hands
on what Iâm going to call his âdraconic giftâ
which is basicslly just auric rejection
but thereâs literally 0 reason for them to know thatâs the name 
he slaps someone and they just bounce
yeah
Watch yo tone mf
That except they fly miles further
real
yharim invented ragdoll physics
Yharim Newton
But yeah I personally think
Yharim is just like
above average in h2h
much more of a weapons guy
and when it comes to hand 2 hand he usually relies on auric rejection
he got the claws installed onto the gauntlets not to use them but because he's a furry
TRUE
do you mean above average for someone trained in it, or above average for just a dude
above average for a trained person
then i agree yeah
but my silly guy has in comparison to Yharimâs 130 yrs to train
800ish

Even if itâs sparse itâs still more than him
(Imo itâs kinda obvious most gods did fuck all in terms of training, solely because they werenât able to beat Yharim)
u had centuries and u lost to a dude who had literal decades smh
if the slime god is anything to go off of most of them were probably bums anyway
Yharim only knows how to box
as the average auric dragon was around eidolon wyrm strength
and gods Iâm pretty sure are usually inherently stronger than the dragons they got their auric soul from
might not be true but thatâs what I assume
ig that makes more sense
The greatest tragedy in Calamity is Slime God not having a perfect ascension, leading to their defemboyfication
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Truly
goozma is if SG locked in
except instead of getting old you turn into slime
Isnât Slime Godâs domain⊠slime?
I donât feel like itâs going against that
I think slime god could be stronger
refusing to overeat
wouldn't say alot tho
and do what slimes do
i think it's almost definitely the case for raw power, but not necessarily combat strength
the god could just suck at fighting and only managed to ascend to begin with due to a willing dragon or luck or smth like that
Which is taking objects and their properties
Should have gone to the suplhurous sea and obtained nuclear slimes smh my head
Would have been unstoppable
gets 6 paladins with nuclear bombs inside of them
lorewise is there an explanation for slime kings acquiring crowns or do they all just get really lucky
of dead gods
throudon had a headcanon i rly like
Present from Slime God
king slimes aren't "natural"
they're part of a burial ritual by onyx kinsmen
the ninja inside is one of their fallen members
Would make sense
and the crown is intentional decoration
peak..
sorta like how vikings would put their dead in a boat and burn it away
Yeah I like that one
slimes have inherent knowledge of smithing but are unable to utilize it in their small base forms
Statis is blessed by Slime God
Set the king slime on fire
Doesnât sound really shocking tbh
but the gift he got was to be able to incorporate the strength of things that are like dead
Heâs very strong
So Statis is just literally the combined strength
of the onyx kinsmen
itâs absolutely absurd but I like the idea
i just had a slightly stupid thought after reading that
whar.:.
Can anybody catch me up on draedon lore?
There is one-
.
ah k thx
braelor sort of has a harem?

seeing "The Cosmic Engineer, Draedon is typing..." is a lot funnier than it should be
Fr lol
nah.. thatâd be unfaithful
I donât think braelor would do that
nor do i
it was a silly jest
i sort of want to work more on headcanons for vanilla stuff
fair enough
god I wish I could draw well
Cause I have so many ideas
but man are my fingers just incapable of doing what my brain thinks
Draedon?!
You wonât get better without practice
Sometimes I wish I could just project the image I have in my head onto paper
i was talking about this in sscls a few days ago
and i do have the time, at least for a while
but not the motivation
like the whole âpractice for x amount a time a dayâ I aint got the time for that, or motivation
i think i'd be able to dedicate myself a lot more to practising drawing if i made a massive list of ideas that i could pick and choose from whenever
If I'm not instantly good at smth I usually give up
but yeah I have ideas I wish I could make real
like recently I had a cool thought for my GoJ v Yharim thing
and was like âthatâd look cool, unfortunately my fingers donât workâ
yeah that's another issue
my fingers are uh
not great
at anything
this time of year
You should upgarde them then
(It was them trading blows, Yharim getting a really deep cut, while GoJ gets a hit on his collarbone/shoulder with his hammer)
The cosmicn't engineer, draedon
I beg your mcfucking pardon
a lot of my family just has poor circulation in our hands
i'm unfortunately part of that group
Yharim gets his clavicle snapped and shoulder dislocated, GoJ almost just straight up gets gutted
the cosmicn't engineer
Fair enough lol
the almost cosmic engineerr
The earthly engineer

"The earthly engineer" sounds so funny
its such a mundane title
like
how would u be able to tell its draedon
The tf2 engineer
whos to say it isnt just this guy
Bob the earthly engineer
Jhon Dreadon smith
I personally want the fight to end
with them constantly trading blows because of exhaustion
and Yharim barely eeks out a win
Yeah, honestly I just believe Cosmic Engineer to be more of a metaphor or something like that
Oh yeah I saw god OC vs Yharim mention
Seasonal fingers??? 
Although I have an aftermath in mind rather than a fight itself for Amatsumara and Yharim
Goose has not paid for the winter finger subscription
Like stabs through chest and while ripping down gets hit in the head by the hammer, but a lot of the force was lost because yk
hard to hit well when youâre being sravbed
Skill issue ngl
There would be something like this in the place that used to be Amatsumara's base of operations
With scoria and all that stuff
âThe God of Justice⊠bah, what a nuisance! I crashed down the ceiling and slew it with a single blow!â
so true
unrelated but the main villain for my personal story is basically like providence and dreadon's awful, awful child
and then the draedon just is like
cold british weather :(
âdude almost died, shit was crazyâ
Like Yharim did not walk out of the castle
Yharon had to come get him
because at that point he was literally incapable of doing so
(I mean Yharon wouldâve never let Yharim die to GoJ regardless)
In my god OC vs Yharim fight, Yharim gets khinda whoopped
My terrarian oc is a girl who always, consistently, either gets jumped by the bosses or accidentally summons them
Going to the dungeon for bones and the cultists are there
Gets curious what the temple altar does and puts in the battery thing
Tries to take the plantera bulb home etc

same
Yharim has a lot of internal damage after the fight
bones fractured n snapped, horrible concussion, teeth fucked up, organs bleeding, muscles strained to their limits, some literally tearing from it
like not in the working out way
GoM leaves the fight because there is no reason to kill Yhim anymore
his once perfect auric armor having the tiniest of chips
which is not noticeable to anyone but himself
When did Yhim become a nickname for Yharim here I am going insane
Yhe/yhim
the 2 letters are too much
Imo we should call him Y
saves time
I blame either Deltaw of melon
Still giggling over yhim
I should probably flesh out Amatsumara more
There is so much you can in the 0,5 second that you save by not writing the a or the r
Mobile
WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO!?
Tis but a scratch
Just but 1 heal potion
Meeeee :3
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Yeeeah I think Iâm at fault for Yhim being spread
The Yhim
I haven't heard of The Yhim
What is the relation between Desert Scourge and Aquatic Scourge in the new lore?
similar species
hey was there a god tied to the sulphurous sea before the crusade started?
Afaik not really
SS was the result of Azafure being in their Industrial Revolution
Yeah, Azafure made SS stinky, and then Draedon proceeded to make it even stinkier
related animals but no t the same species as ne said
Technically Silva due to her body being dumped there
before
do note aquascoog was never a sunken sea creature
ik about silva but I asked about before the crusade
Then not a confirmed one
none really
hmm
there is an ocean god but there is like no information on them
cause anahita sweeps the floor with them /j
there isn't a ocean god, i think you mean the sea god, Tyrian
unless i missed something
Silva made it better for life, didnât really affect the environment
they mislabled him on the combined art page lol
lilac pinned an imgur set of pictures and it calls him the ocean god
oh wiat nevermind
idk where i got ocean from

its the same thing basically, just one is bigger
prolly convergant evolution
why is there a difference between sea and ocean, and why is it the most convoluted difference
No idea tbh
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the answer is nerdy
ill give that tip
look at that smile
I keep seeing that you are here but I constantly miss itâs you speaking since you changed pfp 
and the other side is called the ocean biome
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how much of the planet is the sulfurous sea though 
Because sulphurous ocean doesnât go nearly as hard
truly
true true
Also true because the entire ocean on that side isnât sulphurous
making sense < sounding awesome
not sure how
I personally think itâs something similar to the Caspian Sea, so just a lake type thing so large itâs called a sea
Itâs likely a patch of toxic waste
they're on opposite sides of the continent
Oh sleepy you are now sleepy cheese
i don't think it's a lake because there's a whole ass trench on it
It could be anything
uhm
tigers and lions
are also related

and we know why
yeah but the
Another idea is that itâs an inland sea kinda like Mediterranean/Baltic seas
distance
means nothing....
polar bears are related to grizzly bears
they live
kinda far off eachother
Depends
Speaking of that grizzly and polar bears are closely related enough that you can actually breed them together
but unless the continent was flooded at some point idk how the two could've been related
They make pizzly bears
Here where I live you technically could find a polar bear and a grizzly if youâre extremely lucky
there was also ilmeris which im pretty sure was a sea in its own right
If you go far enough north
I literally have no memory on the lore anymore
i think saying that the 2 sea serpents that are literally canonically related to eachother and live around the same continent are, in fact, related to eachother, isn't too far off
It was an underground sea iirc
yeah but doesnt desert scourge eat its prey whole and aquatic scourge filter feeds?
I think they belong to the same family
Pizzly bear :)
ya
So different species but similar
That thing will most certainly eat you
but def the same family
i'd say
desert scourge and sunken scourge are closely related
while aquatic scourge is further off
Uhh lemme try and recall marine mammalogy class
the only reason I'm saying that it might be convergent is because that's a lot of land between them
Okay itâs odontecetes and mysticetes
This remindes me of the fact that in my opinnion the magnapinna squid has way too much leg
and unless the continent was flooded years ago idk how the species could've ended up in both places
Here, if you are curious
you fail to consider they could've evolved separately thousands of years apart
and yes
the continent could have been flooded in the past
or maybe even they were more terrestrially adapted in the past
(given scourges are reptiles, after all)
Theyâre what.
oh also random thing
Thatâs so upsetting
but they're trying to make it more clear in the new ones
But like I guess it kind of makes sense??
how tf does the desert scourge dig?
Mandibles
probably muscle movement + mandibles
Iâm not joking but it just using itâs head to push throw sand would not even be incorrect to real life
or in this case the beak yeah
If they are reptiles they are likely most similar to caecilians
Except the aquatic part is a little confusing but so be it
Did I say caecilians
Sea snake
Those are amphibians
Amphibious reptile
Bruh
I think they're meant to be sorta their own thing within reptiles
if i had to guess
probably rly basal guys
Yeah
I actually don't think they're true snakes personally
they're just sorta snakelike in body
Them being sea serpents is not horrificly unlikely
i'd argue they're more primitive
like
ok this sounds insane but
i think their closest real life rleative would be mf
tuataras
tuataras?
Centipede theory
I learned about tuataras in class like last week
though this is mostly based on the head of the old, now to be remade sprite
it somewhat resembles a tuatara's head to me
Theyâre very closely related to snakes and lizards
is that an actual species or did you just say a curse word in a different language?
it's a genus
All are apart of lepidosaurs
DS's stubby, short skull reminded me of tuataras more than any other reptile
but once again
that version of DS is now outdated
so
Ice worm,,,,,
oh also
is it actually canon that the eow is a corrupted desert nuisance?
Lore discussion trying to figure out the phylogeny of these weird creatures
cool headcanon tho
I'd love to get a family tree of every scourge ever, especially the ancestor
Even if this will never happen
personally I want to know what the plague would do to the sulphurous sea
Please donât 
plague sea
Has it not went through enough
Hereâs Lepidosaur
Tuatara is part of rhyncocephalia
As you can see, going legless has evolved several times in different lineages
I mean
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it could prolly isolate most of the bad stuff
If you want to say the desert and aquatic scourge evolved to become legless, and returned to sea? Thatâs actually entirely reasonable
Not Traindon
Isnât evolution super fast in calamity?
No
not really
it would prolly start contaminating water across the planet though
Considering how much dukes have changed from od in just a couple thousand years
hell
Tbh Iâm not super familiar with the whole pigeon/fishron line stuff
what would happen if old duke got plagued
Maybe dragonblood dilutes quicker than normal evolution
making a pigeon with dragonblood rn
Speaking of evolution I have a theory on what humans are
putting the storm weaver and devourer in a phylogenetic tree is also flat out impossible
They simply do not fit anywhere we currently have
Something funny to me
reading the bestiary
Old dukes entire existence
all the shit he likely went through
and his cruel personality
and Yharim is like
âyeah heâs just an old mundane thingâ
He really does not seem to give 2 fucks about the draconic offshoots
he's basically a corroded mafia fish
Which I assume Yharon does not as well
Humans evolved from demons originally and gained sentience, but lost their wings. Then given time they moved closer to the surface and started gaining differences to one another. For example azafurians (basically everyone who remained in underworld) have grey skin to blend into the ash, and they also kept the horns for some reason
Even though one of them is literally stronger than him, which I doubt he knows
Honestly I wonder how many ppl even know of Jared
obviously silva
probably because they're not in any danger in his eyes
maybe other eidolons
he mentions offshoots being hunted relentlessly once but other than that he just glazes the auric dragons
Yharon mightâve at one point
but likely forgot or smthing
If Draedon ever went deep into the abyss
He likely wouldâve found him
Or well
Jared finding the thing traversing it
i feel like
yharim would hate Jared
yeah
Blessed by Silva
But
either hate or have an automatic distaste for it
Wait is Jared PW?
Yea
Yes
Huh

