lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

evil yuri

[spring helm]

That’s crazy

[pliant ruin]

thats not what toxic yuri is smh...

[proven rivet]

454 - Removed all Calamity material additions to vanilla crates. - Done ✅

[indigo glade]

Can we have good yuri?

[pliant ruin]

yuri lore knowledge check failed....

[spring helm]

We_love_evil_women.jpg

[spring helm]

There goes the min. boss run

[fierce pagoda]

no, since uhh

Yharon souls can be crafted into auric ore near shimmer now

[split mortar]

Oh right

[proven rivet]

[fierce pagoda]

but after the Raveger rework... then you can say good bye

[split mortar]

Imagine if they make it so you need to be near a drae forge or something aswell

[spring helm]

“Dear diary,

Lately I’ve noticed that it’s been hard to look miss Providence in the eye. I don’t know why, but when she glances at me with those passionate burning eyes I get this feeling in my crystal and I have to look away.
It’s probably just a phase.”

“Dear diary,

It wasn’t a phase.”

[fierce pagoda]

the only reason they chose to craft near shimmer, instead of throw into shimmer

is because yharons souls float

it would be kinda awkward to throw that into the shimmer

[split mortar]

Just make it drop, simple

[split mortar]

Bubble blocks

[spring helm]

If you still have to kill Yharon to get the ore that doesn’t exactly feel like a min boss run

[fierce pagoda]

crafting near is probably simpler tahn all those alternatives

[split mortar]

Yharon is needed in min boss runs right now

[fierce pagoda]

You need to kill Yharon anyways

Auric ore is locked behind him, and auric is required for both scal and Exo mechs

[hoary berry]

"this feeling in my crystal" was not a phrase i ever thought i'd see

[indigo glade]

Current Low% consists of WoF, Calamitas Clone, Ravager, Lunatic Cultist, Moon Lord, DoG, Yharon, and the two final bosses.

[untold oracle]

Why calclone and ravager?

[fierce pagoda]

Calclone for aushes to summon Scal

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah

[split mortar]

Cores of calamity and ashes

[fierce pagoda]

and ravager to shimmer cores for ectoplasm

and stff

[split mortar]

And life alloy

[fierce pagoda]

yeah and that

[indigo glade]

Ashes for Calamitas, Cores for Ectoplasm for Codebreaker

[fierce pagoda]

ecto plasm is needer for naught present

to get uhh those ice materials from the frost moon

[hoary berry]

endothermic energy

[fierce pagoda]

yeah those thank you

[dusk laurel]

Mental illness energy

I pray for their downfall

[dusk laurel]

Omni,,,,,

[untold oracle]

Shrat

[dusk laurel]

Why is this so shrimp

[indigo glade]

Or more better...

[untold oracle]

Cimp

[indigo glade]

Shat.

[fierce pagoda]

are you talking about low boss%

[dusk laurel]

The endothermic energy

[fierce pagoda]

nightmare fuel then

[untold oracle]

This got me thinking how is life for the provi’s worshipers

[spring helm]

They don’t have hearts

Or

The crystal is their heart

[hoary berry]

it makes sense, yeah

but

it's just
odd

[spring helm]

Looking at the Guardian sprites, only the Healr has a crystal

[untold oracle]

Do they have a city in the biome or

[spring helm]

Omg romance blooms

[split mortar]

That is the case iirc

[untold oracle]

-# also how did I write worshipers as summoner wth

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Wha

[fierce pagoda]

[untold oracle]

Brain went braininh

[split mortar]

The British curse of typos is spreading hehehe

[dusk laurel]

I allways make typos

See?

[hoary berry]

this emoji is horrifying

[spring helm]

Providence and Healer match crystals. So cute omg guys it’s like they’re made for each other or something

Typo

[split mortar]

You all may soon make a typo this bad

[hoary berry]

MELON

I SWEAR TO UNCLOG GOD

SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW

if you bring that up again

[untold oracle]

Ok guf worshiper

[split mortar]

I will not let you live it down

[hoary berry]

[split mortar]

Gif*

[untold oracle]

You said guf once so I merged them

[dusk laurel]

The Chambers of Guph

[untold oracle]

Gup‼️

[split mortar]

[untold oracle]

Nuh uh 100% intentional

[light linden]

hey do we know if duke fishron is related to old duke at all?

[dusk laurel]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Yea, they are

Old duke is just so old it saw its species evolve into fishrons and pigrons and stuff

[untold oracle]

Ngl a few thousand or so years is quite a fast time to evolve

[dusk laurel]

Maybe dragonblood dilutes quickly?

Idk

[spare pier]

On the earlier topic yeah Min Boss Runs are kinda fated to fucking end because

Fleshy Geode kinda sucks balls

[untold oracle]

Hai reb

[spare pier]

Like, it's literally just "here, get all of the relevant materials in the Mod for killing 1 (one) Boss"

That's just not good

[untold oracle]

Best part is that it gets upgraded later on

[spare pier]

YUP

[untold oracle]

I never did the bloodstone farming the ”correct” way

I always just killed ravager

[light linden]

I always do

[untold oracle]

Because one necromantic geode drops like 4 calamitallion of them

[dusk laurel]

How do you even get bloodstone normally again, Crags?

[spare pier]

Like, I really don't mind Low% runs and whatnot. Recently we've had a discussion about making Roxcalibur Shimmerable or not because if we locked that it'd kill WoFless%

[light linden]

I love mowing down hordes of enemies

[untold oracle]

Yup

[spare pier]

But this isn't something we can keep due to a neat little challenge run

[light linden]

hey rebecca can I ask a question?

[spare pier]

Fleshy Geode cannot exist in it current iteration without massively overcentralizing resource obtainment

Shoot

[gritty dawn]

why are you green

[dusk laurel]

look at her roles

[gritty dawn]

hi vanillin

[light linden]

would auric be magnetic?

[spare pier]

No idea

[gritty dawn]

yes

[light linden]

since it has a seemingly constant electric charge?

ah ok

[gritty dawn]

i want martians to get their hands on auric ore

and make martian SAUCE-er

post yharim

[spare pier]

I doubt we are changing the obtainment methods of Essences btw, just making mobbing in general more entertaining at Post Moon Lord

But all of the Ores required for Life Alloy are likely becoming a little bit easier to obtain

At least, more guaranteed

Except Scoria

Scoria is already easy as shit to get

[untold oracle]

Ig cryonic ore could be more common

I find it pretty rare

[spare pier]

I have a different idea

[light linden]

personally I just hope cryonic generates in larger veins

[spring helm]

you need more than a constant electric field to be magnetic

[spare pier]

I'm just gonna throw it here

I want to make so Permafrost can make Cryonic Ore for you

[untold oracle]

Ohhh yeah

[spare pier]

You can find it underground, but you can also make him craft it for you

[spring helm]

though i suppose it would make it easier to turn it magnetic

[gritty dawn]

which calamity boss would be hunted to make expensive dishes?

[light linden]

yeah I always found it weird how he couldn't

[spring helm]

yippee

[spring helm]

lazy old man

[light linden]

you can make a literal farm for it lmao

[spring helm]

you can?

[light linden]

yeah

[gritty dawn]

crabulons being hunted to make foods

[untold oracle]

OD

[light linden]

astral ore shimmers into it

[dusk laurel]

[gritty dawn]

maybee

[spring helm]

and you can farm astral ore?

[gritty dawn]

i mean who would be hunting old dukes lol

[spare pier]

Wait now that I think about it

[untold oracle]

I’d love perma to be actually useful

[dusk laurel]

Are you guys trying to do boss eating "discussions" again?

[spare pier]

Does Auric Shimmer back into stuff?

[wheat walrus]

alright guys the mold's already in the air

[light linden]

yes it drops from astral enemies post deus

[wheat walrus]

pls no

[spring helm]

well that's convenient

[light linden]

tbh auric shimmering into anything always seemed odd to me

[gritty dawn]

desert scourge, crabulon, aquatic scourge, dragonfolly and old duke are the only really huntable bosses from calamity

but for vanilla

[spring helm]

shimmers into uelibloom

the auric

[light linden]

ngl

[gritty dawn]

king slime, queen bee, plantera?, duke fishron are also huntable for calamity food

idk if plantera is one of a kind

[dusk laurel]

.

[light linden]

I wonder if it would be possible to tame a dragonfolly and ride around on it

[gritty dawn]

the mount

[untold oracle]

Yes

It’s polter in disguise

[dusk laurel]

Please stop with the eating

[light linden]

there's a dragonfolly mount?

[untold oracle]

Yes!

Kill everyone

[dusk laurel]

Eat like grass or smth idk

[gritty dawn]

okay so.. king slimes, queen bees, duke fishrons, desert scourges, crabulons, aquatic scourges, old dukes and dragonfollys could be sold in tescos

[dusk laurel]

Why eat an old, moldy, crusty, cursed guy that lives in sulphuric water?

[untold oracle]

SHUT UP!!!!

[gritty dawn]

f l a v o r

[untold oracle]

not you vanillin :3

[light linden]

is it true that yharon used to have a phase of doing nothing if you ate a certain item?

[spring helm]

yeah the flesh is probably really stringy

[gritty dawn]

also rich people eat worse

[light linden]

or was I lied to?

[dusk laurel]

:3

[light linden]

:3

[gritty dawn]

people already eat bees, slime could be like jello, idk about AS and DS tbh might be two simular meats, duke fishron and old duke will be like a super specific rich people thing, and dragonfolly would be like outlawed everywhere

[cloud ibex]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

not to my knowledge

maybe back in ANCIENT ancient cal

[gritty dawn]

maybe AS would be considered a specific more expensive version of the Illmerian DS, hunted for its unique acidic flavor??? you know before draedon started dumping trash

[cloud ibex]

[gritty dawn]

would you eat queen bees

if it was used in a dish

[cloud ibex]

i don't know

next question

[gritty dawn]

also for crabulon it would be the Illmerian crabulons

not the mushroom crab

just the sea crab, so no parasyte

giant crab legs

[dusk laurel]

Hermititan will not be on the menu

[wheat walrus]

how it feel to shatter your skull with a big rock until it looks like a shattered melon

[gritty dawn]

tbh sunken scourge is a lot smaller than the desert scourge, so how big would the AS be before draedon dumping

in trash into the sea

i mean it would be like eating a whale right

maybe people who lived around the sulphurous sea before it went bad lived off of eating those things

as one of the food sources

[dusk laurel]

Please stop...

[split mortar]

Yeah uelibloom

[dusk laurel]

Why would you eat AS or DS,,,,

[gritty dawn]

acid worm yummers

[dusk laurel]

I don't get it

[gritty dawn]

also protein

id eat it

ngl

[wheat walrus]

please tell me where you live :333

[gritty dawn]

i wonder if since its so really big it wouldnt really have a worm texture, more like eating snakes

idk

[wheat walrus]

we can eat scourges together

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[dusk laurel]

...

It isn't even a worm

[gritty dawn]

its a worm like fish thing

so maybe sea snake

[deft vessel]

I just tought of like a desert tribe that ride DS Dune style

[light linden]

hot take

[dusk laurel]

Still not a worm

[light linden]

I'd eat a reaper shark

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[gritty dawn]

would be probably a pain to eat

i mean thats a deep sea fish

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

ngl though

I kinda hate seafood

[wheat walrus]

yknow i am limited by the discord servers' rules, so why do you keep saying this

[cloud ibex]

could maybe work but they're a lot smaller than sandworms

[gritty dawn]

im just hungy

[dusk laurel]

go buy food then

[light linden]

huh?

[dusk laurel]

It's not hard

[dusk laurel]

Hey Garbo

[light linden]

that's the first time I've said that

[deft vessel]

Hmmm… just realised that the reply message doesnt glow anymore

[hoary berry]

[gritty dawn]

coconut crab

[dusk laurel]

[wheat walrus]

idon e car people of lore dsiscussion are saying this..

say something cooler

like

[split mortar]

Does it not?

[wheat walrus]

"check out my perfect form, it's perfect!"

[light linden]

what does this mean?

[gritty dawn]

okay i dont wanna make you uncomfortable so imma stop pookie

[dusk laurel]

That's because the ping was turned off

[deft vessel]

Huh. Sometimes it does. Sometime it does not

[dusk laurel]

Lemme demonstrate

See?

[split mortar]

Oh that’s cause you can disable the ping and glow

[split mortar]

See

[dusk laurel]

There is an @ symbol

[hoary berry]

you can disable the ping by clicking the @on button

[deft vessel]

Logical

[wheat walrus]

you're crihnge not based

[dusk laurel]

You can disable it

[deft vessel]

I see now

[dusk laurel]

Funny how a so-called "Wok" can't even cook

[hoary berry]

or you can hold shift while pressing the reply button to auto-disable the ping

only works with a keyboard obviously

[wheat walrus]

the wonkler

[gritty dawn]

okay but i was just talking about food

tf

[wheat walrus]

rename yourself to "the wonkler" dummy :p

[gritty dawn]

okay :3

[wheat walrus]

i saw that shit

😭

what the fuck is your uncle do

[gritty dawn]

no party like a diddy party

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Die

[wheat walrus]

can we all collectively find where thewonkler lives and steal nuke codes to nuke that place mannnnn

[split mortar]

Explode

[strange stump]

what is this

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[gritty dawn]

lore-discussion

[cloud ibex]

disregard

don't acknowledge whatever the hell is currently going on

[strange stump]

your right

yharim in nordic mythology would go hard

[cloud ibex]

tbh i feel like he'd be pretty chill with most deities from irl mythologies as long as he'd understand that they haven't killed any auric dragons to become gods

[strange stump]

im 50% certain he'd either be fine with greek mythology and 50% certain he would lose his mind

because greek gods argue and fight like teenagers

its actually funny if you look into it

[devout grotto]

Kinda goes hard

[deft vessel]

Thanks

[devout grotto]

[dusk laurel]

DS being used as a mode of transport is a cool concept

[light linden]

ngl

[split mortar]

Daily Nighttime ceareal time

[light linden]

I kinda wonder if there's a draconic offshoot in the underworld

or was

[pliant ruin]

bone serpents trust

[split mortar]

No

That’s vanilla lore

[light linden]

I mean

it could very well be one in cal lore

[split mortar]

By far the weakest if so

[light linden]

hell that could be what happened to the basilisks

[light linden]

the others are still alive technically

hell do we even know of any other draconic offshoots that might've been brought back with necromancy?

[split mortar]

Not to my knowledge

[pliant ruin]

Wdym

Basilisks are still alive

they're in the underground desert

[pliant ruin]

Who's to say cal couldn't also have them as draconic offshoots

[dusk laurel]

...

[pliant ruin]

they'd certainly fit it more than eidolon wyrms lmao

(still biggest hater of eidolon wyrms being offshoots,,,)

[split mortar]

We don’t know if they are or not so best to not say it like it is the case till the bestiary rewrite

[pliant ruin]

well i didn't say it was the case i made it pretty clearly a joke

but i think it's possible

[light linden]

those have been confirmed to be getting a rewrite

so idk

[pliant ruin]

Yeah but

[split mortar]

I’m fine with it since it just means they came from a fucked up looking dragon

[pliant ruin]

they're literally

Still Alive

Like

you can find them

in the desert

[light linden]

also

they were said to have died off

[pliant ruin]

no??

was there

a dev statement

or something

[pliant ruin]

most were hunted to extinction

this is talking about

pure offshoots

[light linden]

also that makes wyverns a little weird

[pliant ruin]

not wyverns

or pigrons

or basilisks

its talking abt things like old duke

or primordial wyrm

Or well

Fishrons, Follies and "Abyssal Wyrms" (why the diff name guh)

they're "pure offshoots"

and ig basilisks, wyverns and pigrons aren't

very conchfusing...

[light linden]

because there's 2 different types of wyrms

the primordial and the eidolon

[pliant ruin]

i think "pure offshoot" should be kept exclusively for the ones that are right next in bloodline to dragons

like pw and old duke

[dusk laurel]

Primordial is an eidolon wyrm

[pliant ruin]

because otherwise it is rather confusing

[dusk laurel]

Just really old

And blessed too

So its final design will probably reflect that

[split mortar]

Primordial is just the first eidolon wyrm, primordial meaning it’s the oldest

Wyrm cause it’s a wyrm

[light linden]

also just saying eidolon made my mind create a cursed abomination

eidolon lotus but an eidolon wyrm

anyways

do we know which dragons the offshoots came from aside from the fish and pigrons?

[dusk laurel]

Wyverns are from Vetrasyl iirc

or are at least related

[light linden]

vetrasyl is the seas dragon right?

[dusk laurel]

Nah

Storm Dragon

[split mortar]

Old duke and duke fishron from mega mammoth dragon

[dusk laurel]

The pig curse,,,

[pliant ruin]

the sinner dragon

[dusk laurel]

Frost Dragon was apparently like a bird

[pliant ruin]

heretic,,,

[dusk laurel]

And its descendants were cursed for whatever reason

[pliant ruin]

Frost dragon made pigrons like old duke with then turned into fishrons and then modern pigrons

evolution,,,

tbh

wouldnt be surprised

if dragonfolly was from yharon

specially considering hes apparently getting red lightning attacks

and their connection in old lore

[deft vessel]

Oh yea. That could make sense

[tropic oak]

https://tenor.com/view/rogan-joe-alien-shock-arrival-gif-25711739

[light linden]

yeah that's what I was thinking

[tropic oak]

hello lore discussion

[pliant ruin]

hello Tyrant

[dusk laurel]

Time is a flat circle,,,

[pliant ruin]

true,,,

basiliks

basilisks

i imagine being from gluttony man

[split mortar]

Yharon not a virgin? Waoa

[pliant ruin]

given they're by far the weakest

and also they're just

fat

there's nothing really

special about them

they're just fat desert lizards

[light linden]

ngl

[pliant ruin]

i headcanon that dragons reproduce asexually but yeah

ig

atleast auric ones

[light linden]

I always thought the sand basilisk enemies weren't full basilisks

and they were botched necromancy jobs

[solar wharf]

is that why flame dragon was so evil.,.,..

[solar wharf]

he never understood love....

[pliant ruin]

why tho

they seem really

normal

nothing abt them really screams necromancy

they're just fat lizards

[deft vessel]

I would like a Canon answer to who the giant dragon in the crimson background is

[light linden]

their heads look like sand covered skulls to me

[dusk laurel]

I don't think so

They just look like sand lizards

[split mortar]

That can just be a hardened head to handle ramming into walls and other creatures

[pliant ruin]

dragon of being really fucking big holy shit why is it so big stop

turned into the god of small size

[light linden]

ngl

[pliant ruin]

Yeah that dosen't really

[dusk laurel]

That looks normal to me

[pliant ruin]

scream necromantic to me

[deft vessel]

Lmao

[pliant ruin]

its just a lizard

[light linden]

I could kinda see it being the dragon of gluttony

[sleek halo]

wjhat

[solar wharf]

well, our heads is just skull covered in meat

same goes for dragons

so like.

[light linden]

speaking of crimson

I still wanna know if crimstone falling on auric ore would provoke a response

[pliant ruin]

probably not i dont think

its organic but not alive

[dusk laurel]

I don't think so

[pliant ruin]

by that logic it'd also provoke a response when touching like

wood

[dusk laurel]

No rejection I think

All it has is god essence, which probably isn't enough of a threat to it

[solar wharf]

for a second i thought cheese was saying auric was organic

i was gonna say "what the fuck happened while i was gone"

apparently there is a new god

[split mortar]

Colossal leviathan type shit

[solar wharf]

god of space or someshit

[split mortar]

Yeah

[deft vessel]

Yes

[solar wharf]

isnt that

[split mortar]

From dragon of gravity

[solar wharf]

a very good domain

[deft vessel]

Yea

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s second strongest god

[dusk laurel]

Space as in geometry

[solar wharf]

holy shit

[dusk laurel]

Not all of outer space

[solar wharf]

we got a confirmation finally?

the 2nd strongest god?

YHARIM DEFEATED HIM?

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[solar wharf]

he must be a pussy

[dusk laurel]

Whar

[split mortar]

Weaker then scal and exos btw

[solar wharf]

the powercreep

[split mortar]

The space god

[solar wharf]

is fuckin crazy

[split mortar]

How? There’s already portals and maybe space cutting weapons

[deft vessel]

Tbh i would like for them to nothave a power list other than Xeroc

[solar wharf]

ye but draedon, scal, and yharim

werent as strong as now back then

[split mortar]

They aren’t getting stronger?

[light linden]

I just wanna point out

[solar wharf]

but they got this strong so spacegod was left to be weaker

[light linden]

yharim likely wasn't alone

[solar wharf]

draedon is, yharim got stronger cuz of exo technology

and scal is by age

which inculdes experience

and i assume control over her magic

[light linden]

strength in numbers is a thing

[split mortar]

Space god could still be like post yharon level

[solar wharf]

since they all got stronger but god of space didnt (hes dead)

by that definition

he got powercrept,

i cant believe this.

[faint plank]

what a calamity

[brave dew]

Haha he dead what a loser

[dusk laurel]

The player can power creep all of them

[pliant ruin]

except xeroc

[solar wharf]

they already are as we speak

[pliant ruin]

can't power creep the x man

[dusk laurel]

X man is too powerful

[solar wharf]

xerco is getting powercrept cuz now the average is closer to xeroc

just slightly where it doesnt matter

cuz now there is 2 very strong beings

instead of 1

[dusk laurel]

We don't kill or beat him

[light linden]

still find that to be bs

[dusk laurel]

I don't think it is?

[pliant ruin]

I mean

We don't kill scal either

[split mortar]

You know Rebecca has may suggest that night prov is providences full power and the we keep that extra power from her by keeping the profaned core away from her

[deft vessel]

Because it sort of block any other oc auric deity from beating Yharim. Unless they Were ganged up on

[solar wharf]

powercreep doesnt require the best to no longer be the best to actually do anything, it requires the average

to change

[pliant ruin]

It's kind of a thing with calamity that the player dosen't ever kill Characters that aren't evil

[solar wharf]

if the average changes, then thats powercreep

which means, ye we dont defeat xeroc

[pliant ruin]

before anyone says Aquatic Scourge that is not a Character that is a Wild Animal

[solar wharf]

but our addition changes the average

causing powercreep, minimal one because we are just 1 in a world of billions

but nonethless, powercreep.

[light linden]

correct

but also I can't lie

[deft vessel]

And khinda limits Calamitys wonderful own additional lore capatibilities

[light linden]

I would 100% kill draedon if given the chance

[solar wharf]

WHAT IF I WANT MY CHARACTER TO BE REALLY EVIL?

[pliant ruin]

I think most people would

[pliant ruin]

Then make it ur headcanon that they stab them in their sleep or smth idk

they drop the liquid on them

[solar wharf]

thats too evil man..,.,.

[pliant ruin]

The Liquid ™️

[split mortar]

Even then you can’t get more evil then yharim, or atleast effect the world as much as him

[pliant ruin]

dreadon is just

sorta impossible

to really kill

[deft vessel]

Blows up the whole continet

[pliant ruin]

unless you somehow wipe out all of his 59259259129613896 AI copies at once

[light linden]

idk if I'd call him an absolute evil

[split mortar]

Draedon is about as immortal as a elemental

[pliant ruin]

infect him with bonzi buddy

[dusk laurel]

The continent is probably too devastated to have more than 90 million people

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is a evil ass mfer but he isn't an absolute evil because he's still human

[solar wharf]

draedon when i release a virus with very silly cat pictures on his hard drive:

[pliant ruin]

He's an irreedemable bastard of a human but he's still human

[dusk laurel]

Since we are on literally the most affected area

[deft vessel]

Probably

[dusk laurel]

And Yharim killed at least like 100 million iirc

[mighty zenith]

nice to meet you, expand dong

[light linden]

me with a usb of the red ring of death

[solar wharf]

does that make the dragons of flame an absolute evil because he isnt human?

[pliant ruin]

terrarian i require assistance i was trying to download minecraft online free no virus and now my ai copies are slowly dying one by one

[pliant ruin]

well i didn't mean human in the biological sense

I meant human in the sense he still has human traits

Like

he's not some Force of Evil liek

say

Noxus, probably

[mighty zenith]

computer viruses are like actual infections to him

[solar wharf]

so like, he wouldnt kill kids for fun

therefore he cant be absolute evil

[light linden]

also I can't lie

some of the gods kinda needed to go

[pliant ruin]

I think absolute evil would only really be something that only does evil actions and has no human qualities

Yeah some of them did

Like

[light linden]

providence

[pliant ruin]

i don't think anyone would miss providence too much

[dusk laurel]

Some of them definitely did

[solar wharf]

the one god that didnt go..,.,.

[pliant ruin]

captain goldbeard

reference

[light linden]

providence is the absolute evil

[split mortar]

She does it out of mercy technically

[solar wharf]

do we know if god of space is a good god or nah?

[frank dune]

hello everyone

[pliant ruin]

providence isn't absolute evil either by my definition of it tbh

The only character id say

might be an absolute evil

[dusk laurel]

We don't know if GoS is evil or not

[pliant ruin]

is noxus

[light linden]

idk if motive matters when you want to immolate all of existence

[frank dune]

who is god of space btw

[solar wharf]

i think we need a good god for once, the rest of the gods are at best

[pliant ruin]

imo to be an absolute evil you need to again, have literally no humane qualities and are a pure force of evil

[solar wharf]

morally gray

[split mortar]

New character that’s dead

[frank dune]

never heard about em before

[pliant ruin]

GOD OF SACRIFICES BENEV-

[dusk laurel]

I think God of Sacrifices was good

[pliant ruin]

please i beg lore team

make him a good guy and my life is yours

[dusk laurel]

Triangle mentioned it as an idea

[light linden]

good news

[split mortar]

Yeah they’re new, vanillin jokingly accidentally guessed it correct iirc

[dusk laurel]

#lore-discussion message

Look here cheese

[pliant ruin]

BASED

[dusk laurel]

There's a chance they're good

[pliant ruin]

TRIANGLE MY GOAT

[dusk laurel]

[brave fable]

whas this on about

[light linden]

.

[split mortar]

Ravager before becoming necromancy murder machine possibly being good despite looking evil

[mighty zenith]

LETS GOO

[light linden]

also what kind of angel has triangle seen

[pliant ruin]

minos prime

[brave fable]

ohh that makes sense

[pliant ruin]

minos prime ravager

[light linden]

minos prime?

[deft vessel]

Torch god from the dragon of guidance

[dusk laurel]

Providence is getting redesigned

[split mortar]

And providence who looks like a angel somewhat is evil

[dusk laurel]

So likely that

[mighty zenith]

i fucking love "evil fucked up looking monsters that are actually just super chill"

[light linden]

can't lie

[dusk laurel]

Current Provi looks like a construct

[brave fable]

bro providence looks hideous as fuck

[light linden]

I don't think she needs one

[dusk laurel]

All bosses except SCal, Exos and Leviana are getting resprited

[pliant ruin]

benevolent king/god loved by his people
killed unfairly due to someone with a twisted sense of justice
forced to watch as his body, now turned into a decaying undead monster, tore apart the people he cared about so much

ravager is just minos

[brave fable]

leviana?

[light linden]

leviana?

[pliant ruin]

the sprite is good but the design not so much

[dusk laurel]

Levi and Anahita

[brave fable]

exactly what i thought

[light linden]

oh

[green bay]

Youre so mean, shes just a pretty girl 🌸

[brave fable]

ohh nice

[solar wharf]

what the fuck.... im so happy as of now

[light linden]

oh also

[brave fable]

based

[pliant ruin]

hs literally minos

[light linden]

who is minos?

[pliant ruin]

ultrakill

[dusk laurel]

Minos from the Greek myth

[split mortar]

Ultrakill prime soul 1

[light linden]

oh I've never played it

[solar wharf]

does that mean

after we beat ravager

we will fight

ravager prime soul

[pliant ruin]

fighting ravager chest spider guy phase with chaos

[split mortar]

God souls get destroyed on death iirc so no

[pliant ruin]

and the big gorilla phase with order

🙏

[solar wharf]

but

hes god of scarifice

[dusk laurel]

Ravager rework will be hype

GoS died

[split mortar]

And?

[solar wharf]

it worked a lot better in my head cuz he came from the dragon of death

but you know

[split mortar]

Gosh souls are like 4 souls in one, they’re hyper unstable iirc

[solar wharf]

arent we like

not suppose to share this

[split mortar]

Wha

?

[solar wharf]

what is "gosh"

[split mortar]

God

Typo

[solar wharf]

oh

nvm then

ignore what i said

[pliant ruin]

Ah... I return, at last.
Oh... Yharim, now dawns thy reckoning, and thy gore shall GLISTEN before the cathedrals of my people! Warrior of terraria, my gratitude upon thee for my freedom.

[dusk laurel]

God souls are not stable enough to survive when the god is killed iirc

[pliant ruin]

(he dosen't say the rest bercause the terrarian didn't do anything wrong actually)

[solar wharf]

well

he killed slime god

[dusk laurel]

Like Xeroc's soul would turn into essence if he died

[light linden]

even perfect ascenders?

[pliant ruin]

slime god deserved it fucking twink

/j

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[split mortar]

And? Guy jumped us and then may have been collateral in queen slime fight

[split mortar]

Femboy*

[solar wharf]

ye but like, how would he know

[pliant ruin]

it was self defense

and like

[split mortar]

Slime god is also like neutral

[solar wharf]

how would he know its self defense man

[light linden]

btw has it ever been said that only Xeroc and Silva have perfectly ascended?

[split mortar]

Not good

[solar wharf]

pretty sure not only

we dont knowif there is more or not

[split mortar]

They’re the only gods with same domain as their dragons that we know of

[dusk laurel]

Their domains are the same as their dragons, so kind of

[pliant ruin]

i personally wouldn't kill someone for breaking my vacuum cleaners, maybe get angry at them but uhh

fighting to the death seems

a bit excessive

that's basically what slime god attacks you for, it seems

you kill his vaccuum cleaners

[solar wharf]

is the dragon domain always gonna be stronger than the god's or at minimally like silva and xeroc, tied?

[split mortar]

They’re just adjacent concepts

[solar wharf]

so it doesnt have to be weaker or stronger

[deft vessel]

It can be worse or better

[split mortar]

^

[solar wharf]

would have yharim gained a perfect ascend

if he went with the plan

[split mortar]

Unlikely

[dusk laurel]

Probably not

[split mortar]

We don’t know what’s needed for a perfect ascension

But it’s probably terminus as one of them

[solar wharf]

silva and xeroc ascension seems special, silva doesnt seem like the type of gal to hunt dragons

[light linden]

terminus?

[solar wharf]

and xeroc didnt hunt zeraora

[dusk laurel]

The boss rush thing

[solar wharf]

WHAT

HOW CAN I FORGET

[dusk laurel]

That summons it

[solar wharf]

THE DRAGONS NAME

[dusk laurel]

Zeratros.

[split mortar]

Terminus has ties to both gods who perfect asceneded

[light linden]

I thought that xeroc made that thing

[solar wharf]

i had it memorized for so long...

i forgor...

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc created the ritual

[deft vessel]

Hmm… I still need to figure out a name for the dragon of sloth

[dusk laurel]

So if the terminus was used, then he probably carved it from somewhere

[light linden]

zeratros ig

[dusk laurel]

That is

[solar wharf]

hey

close enough

[dusk laurel]

Not it

try again

[deft vessel]

I think that is in fact it

[frank dune]

Zeratros is prob yharon but white

Fur

I mean

Look

Not powers

[light linden]

I always thought they'd look somewhat artifical

[proven rivet]

I think they would have the Sigil of Light somewhere on their body too

Considering I don't think Xeroc made it up

[light linden]

kinda like biblically accurate angels

[deft vessel]

It’d be cool if all of them had their own sigils

[proven rivet]

This is Throudon's take on Zeratros' design

[light linden]

I need to try and draw what I think he looks like

[proven rivet]

It's obviously very unofficial, but it makes a ton of sense

[dusk laurel]

How do you know Zera was a she

What if it was a he

[light linden]

typo

[split mortar]

Zeratros is all genders now fuck you

[brave dew]

Zera is a dragon ??

[dusk laurel]

Okay gun melon

[split mortar]

Zeratros is the monarch of the dragons

[brave dew]

Cool

[dusk laurel]

Zeratros was king of the dragons iirc

[proven rivet]

And the Light Dragon

[split mortar]

As in every dragon obeyed their word

[split mortar]

Primordial lifhgt*

[pliant ruin]

I call Giratina from Pokemon a she and refuse to listen to anyone who tells me to stop so honestly if you want to call Zeratros something other than he more power to you

[dusk laurel]

Can't spell moment

[pliant ruin]

primordial lifght

my favorite divine domain

[dusk laurel]

lifhgt

[pliant ruin]

it lets you lifght all over the place

[dusk laurel]

How enlifhgtening

[light linden]

you think any dragon who disobeyed Zeratros got the sunlight through a magnifying glass treatment?

[pliant ruin]

Idk

[brave fable]

lol

[pliant ruin]

Zeratros dosen't strike me as tyrannical

[brave fable]

wait who tf is zeratros

[split mortar]

-# this time is intentional

[pliant ruin]

strongest dragon

xeroc absorbed their soul

[dusk laurel]

I don't think Zeratros would use that extreme of measures against his kin

[brave fable]

so xeroc evil?

[split mortar]

King of all the dragons and the strongest, lethally wounded from moonlord invasion and got absorbed by xeroc

[pliant ruin]

maybe if they were REAL douchebags

[pliant ruin]

no

[light linden]

tyrant or not sometimes punishment is needed

[proven rivet]

No

[pliant ruin]

yeah but i dobut

that extreme

[split mortar]

We dunno, not all gods evil not all gods good

[brave fable]

when xeorc absorbed it ended drag=conic era

[proven rivet]

If Xeroc was evil, where would we be

[pliant ruin]

yeah but thats just

change

[brave fable]

lol

[pliant ruin]

thats not necessraily Bad

like it ended the Dragon Age but that's not necessarily a Bad Thing

[brave fable]

ok

[brave dew]

If xeroc is not evil why do we even fight him ?

Like whats the reason

[proven rivet]

We don't

[pliant ruin]

test

[brave dew]

Oh

Lol

[pliant ruin]

xeroc tests us

[brave fable]

we gotta get to dragons aurie to fight yharim

[split mortar]

That’s cause other people started copying xeroc and absorbing dragons they didn’t intentionally spread it to my knowledge

[pliant ruin]

yeah this too

[brave fable]

ahh

[split mortar]

Could be a spar or test

[pliant ruin]

the genocide part

wasn't intentional

if anything

i imagine he feels guilty abt it

[proven rivet]

Most rituals failed aswell

[split mortar]

Wai wha

Huh

[pliant ruin]

wdym

[split mortar]

You mean the not perfect ascension?

[proven rivet]

They didn't properly perform the ritual iirc, resulting in stuff like SG

[light linden]

oh also

[dusk laurel]

So non-perfect ascensions

[pliant ruin]

Every ascencion besides silva and xeroc (taht we know of) was imperfect

[proven rivet]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

it dosen't really have anything to do with the gods phyiscal appearance

[light linden]

does draedon even do anything with the plague anymore?

[proven rivet]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

he looks at it with his autistic eyes

[dusk laurel]

He manages it to an extent

[deft vessel]

Well we know like five

[split mortar]

Draedon made the plague and observes it evolve

[dusk laurel]

But he didn't know PBG was still alive so it's causing problems

[light linden]

cause simply put something like this could be used to terraform or repair his exo mechs

[proven rivet]

SG
Provi
God of Death/Sacrifice
Xeroc
Silva
Tyrian
Otonilou
Space God
Lizahrdian Deity

[dusk laurel]

Like older and newer models were supposed to kill each other

[brave fable]

he always desperate to make a breakthrough

[deft vessel]

That is around five

[pliant ruin]

I don't think draedon has any reason to rebuild exos tbh

[split mortar]

That is his one goal in life, science

[pliant ruin]

they got their job done

[brave fable]

cuz hes a machine

[brave dew]

Isnt there also a god the one that the lihzahrds tried to recreate with the golem ?

Or something like that ?

[light linden]

we don't know who they are

[split mortar]

Nah that was the parameter set by his creator, not cause he is a machine he must do science

[brave fable]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[proven rivet]

Oh yeah right

That was the deity I forgot

[mighty zenith]

they were apparently a god of the sun? which makes me think the lihzahrds just kind of misinterpreted whatever god they worshipped

i doubt it was xeroc honestly

[brave fable]

imagine if we get a named deity bossfight (sequel)

[proven rivet]

Yeah it probably wasn't

[brave dew]

Silva the god of death/sacrifice is related to ravager right ?

[dusk laurel]

I doubt Xeroc was on the planet that much

[mighty zenith]

i hope the bestiary rewrite clears that up

[proven rivet]

You uhhh

[split mortar]

Silva is goddess of life

[mighty zenith]

since rn we only have yharim to go off of

[dusk laurel]

Considering barely anyone knows of his existence

[proven rivet]

You got the opposite of the other Silva

[split mortar]

We dunno god of sacrifices name

[split mortar]

Yeah

[proven rivet]

The god of sacrifices has no name

[split mortar]

Well they do

We don’t know it

[proven rivet]

We know Provi, Xeroc, Silva, Tyrian and Otonilou by name

[brave dew]

Tyrian and otonilou ?

Who tf are those guys

[split mortar]

Gods of the illmerians

People scal burned

[dusk laurel]

Goddess of Electricity and God of the Seas

[brave dew]

Alr but what about ravager does he have some sort of god ?

[split mortar]

Ravager is the god of sacrifices

[brave dew]

He's related to ?

Yeah thats what i said before

[split mortar]

Dragon of death

[proven rivet]

Rav is the reincarnation of the god of sacrifices

[dusk laurel]

He's the necromancied God of Sacrifices

[brave dew]

But he's not a god then

Cuz like

[proven rivet]

He sort of is

[brave dew]

Iirc he doesnt have a mind or whatever

[proven rivet]

He has one

[deft vessel]

But the revivers wached a YouTube tutorial for it after the dislike removal

[proven rivet]

But it's on the same level as Oracle Ganon

[split mortar]

They absorbed auric soul so they’re a god, though mentally yeah they ain’t the same before revival

[mighty zenith]

not really their fault tbh

necromancy is flawed in general

[deft vessel]

Ye

[proven rivet]

Necromancy is only good against WoF

[brave dew]

So basically ravager is a god ?

[mighty zenith]

even cal's brothers are basically mindless and the only thing making them fight for their sister is some leftover remains of the past

[brave dew]

Just not mentally

[proven rivet]

Yes

[brave dew]

Really stable

Damn thats weird

Was the god of sacrifices stronger than current ravager ?

[deft vessel]

Yes

[proven rivet]

Yes

[brave dew]

Cuz rn ravager except throwing rocks at you doesnt do much

[proven rivet]

Fairly sure the Dragon of Death was the third/fourth strongest dragon

[mighty zenith]

current ravager is also outdated so

[brave dew]

First is zeratros right ?

[dusk laurel]

Why would a boss that's getting completely reworked eventually have a canon fight as of now

[brave dew]

And second would be like

Yharon

[proven rivet]

I don't know if it was behind Life, but behind Rebirth and Primordial Light for sure

Otonilou is technically the first deity you encounter on your journey, that being preboss

[brave dew]

How do you encounter it tho ?

[dusk laurel]

The Sunken Sea

[proven rivet]

They're the jellyfish in the ice shrine

[dusk laurel]

The sea prisms are her work

Since they have essentially a permanent charge

[pliant ruin]

uh

[proven rivet]

In person, you encounter her in the Ice Shrine

[pliant ruin]

she's dead

😭

[dusk laurel]

Yeah,,,

[brave dew]

Haha she dead loser

[dusk laurel]

You will be dead soon

[proven rivet]

I am throwing you into the abyss

[dusk laurel]

When I find out what grass is in a 10 mile radius of you

[shut tide]

Ilmeris being the calmest place ever

then BAM

its gone

[proven rivet]

It took a long time

Not a split second

[shut tide]

I see

[proven rivet]

Fishbone Boomerang
Though the evaporating Sea Kingdom fought a losing battle, its proud inhabitants did not go down easily.
As a last resort, they had to fashion weapons from the skeletons of dead animals.

[shut tide]

god i feel even worse for them

[split mortar]

That hasn’t stopped god of sacrifices don’t excuse laziness

[pliant ruin]

first a undead gorilla

now a undead jellyfish

what's next? a undead tree?

oh wait...

[visual kiln]

hiii

[pliant ruin]

fanlgwasGADSZNM,VCXV CXNBMV DSGBV

hiiii

[shut tide]

Also Redtide Spear mentions brutish neighbouring factions, do we know about any of them?

[dusk laurel]

I think people wanted the brackish water that they had

And then turn it into fresh water or smth

[split mortar]

Prob when they were tribes and not united by the gods

[split mortar]

Just buy it smh

[shut tide]

Makes sense

[light linden]

just realized

I've never found the ice shrine in any playthrough

actually do any of the other shrines have lore significance?

[shut tide]

Yes

[dusk laurel]

They were places of worship

[split mortar]

The corruption crimson ones are prob made by the god corpses want to be worshipped idk

[shut tide]

The one containing the trinket of chi, has something to do with statis

[light linden]

what about the granite and marble shrines?

[shut tide]

no idea

[light linden]

I still want some kind of accessory that combines them all tbh

[dusk laurel]

But why

[light linden]

they aren't strong enough individually to be used past a certain point

[dusk laurel]

Isn't that

How accessories work usually

Like you wouldn't use a mana flower post-ML

[light linden]

yes but most accessories have upgrades

[hoary berry]

i have mixed opinions about shrine items, but personally i wouldn't want to see them combined

[brave dew]

Would be kinda cool

To give them more content

[light linden]

there's no way that's a god

[dusk laurel]

It isn't

[brave fable]

vanilla

what is your prediction to yharim boss fight

[empty dew]

Cool ass grandpa

[brave fable]

[split mortar]

Melee

[brave fable]

no cuz he soul linked with yharon

[random mulch]

old guy in shiny armor punches me through a wall

[mighty zenith]

?

[brave fable]

[brave fable]

yk from hell

[split mortar]

And?

[brave fable]

and yharonr esides with him in

dragons auroe

which means

[mighty zenith]

???

[split mortar]

We kill yharon

[random mulch]

yharon's dead by the time we fight yharim

[brave fable]

they gonna be teaming like anahita and leviathan

[mighty zenith]

yharon is dead

[brave fable]

rlly?

[mighty zenith]

he's not coming back

[random mulch]

yeah?

[split mortar]

We kill yharon in the fight

[mighty zenith]

for years

[brave fable]

ohh ok

[split mortar]

Takes a decade to revive

[brave fable]

how is yharim even alive

wait yharon is the dragon of rebirth

[mighty zenith]

the connection is still there cause yharon's soul is still there

he's got a few years left before kicking the bucket

[brave fable]

yharon is dragon of reboth

yharon will come back cuz he is like a phoenix?

[mighty zenith]

basically

[cloud ibex]

in, like, ten years yeah

[brave fable]

and yharim old as fuck

[split mortar]

Yeah he will die before yharon revives

[brave fable]

he just gonna die of old age

[split mortar]

Yup

[brave fable]

ahh ok

[mighty zenith]

even if we were to die to him he would die eventually yea

[brave fable]

dam thats kinda depressing to the lore

cuz like

no point he gonna die either way lolll

[cloud ibex]

well if things go the way he wants them to you're gonna pick up where he left off

[brave fable]

then the cycle repeats??

[split mortar]

Well, he will want us to grow and kill xeroc (we can’t)

[brave fable]

dammn

in the cynosure lore item

it says that

yharim is like hinting that hes in dragons auerie