#lore-discussion

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hot valve
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But it, most literally, cost statis an arm and a leg

solar wharf
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aye wdym, we already do that

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we generalize mosquitos man

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we try to kill them all cuz few annoyed us

frigid mulch
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Impulsiveness, hell, if some race tried to kill me and literally my only friend told me everyone from that race is like that - i would honestly believe them

little ginkgo
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do we know any of stasis and or braelor's powers?

hot valve
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Statis has a prosthetic arm and leg

pliant ruin
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would you genocide the race

hot valve
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Braelor is Silvia’s champion

deft vessel
sleek halo
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and also the person who saved you

hot valve
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Blessed with some of her power or something

sleek halo
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agrees that bears are assholes

hot valve
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Statis is slime God’s champion(?)

solar wharf
little ginkgo
pliant ruin
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even if that happened i wouldnt genocide the bears

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like yes i understand why yharim did it

sleek halo
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and says they wiped out

pliant ruin
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but also hes fucking stupid still

devout grotto
sleek halo
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their entire race

sleek halo
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Just

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Very angry and misguided

hot valve
frigid mulch
hot valve
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I mean maybe somewhat similar to how the player does

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Where he can get healed rapidly on the brink of death

deft vessel
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Yharim is clearly a victim of internet statistics

pliant ruin
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sorry i'm just stressed rn because my internet is slow as hell

little ginkgo
pliant ruin
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@_@

solar wharf
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thats a very shitty example because any human listening to that would be like "my guy, they dont know what they are doing, we dont hold them using our moral standards", gods are sapient so that becomes way more believable and manipulative

hot valve
frigid mulch
little ginkgo
hot valve
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Slime god keeps the balance of the world pretty well

little ginkgo
pliant ruin
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but yeah yharim is def misguided and angry but his conclusions were still ridiculous

solar wharf
sleek halo
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Well

pliant ruin
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Slime God is Morally I Don't Know Because We Have Barely Anything On The Guy

sleek halo
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yea

brave dew
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Slime god is so so so dumb

pliant ruin
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He's one of many characters who are lacking in the lore department right no

little ginkgo
pliant ruin
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like storm weaver

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and signus

hot valve
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Slime god had followers and people who worshipped him because he’s a god
He did however kind of leave them for dead, sort of? Not really confirmed

pliant ruin
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we kill him

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queen slime is slime god

little ginkgo
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we do ?

brave dew
pliant ruin
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(Unfortunately.)

frigid mulch
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Hey, is there even a single bad thing about permafrost that we know? Besides him i don't think there's anyone that can be called pure

little ginkgo
sleek halo
pliant ruin
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Permafrost is definitely not pure

solar wharf
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so we killed him

pliant ruin
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He helped Yharim

sleek halo
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Killing the gods who threw him lava is pretty

hot valve
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Slime God is one of the weaker “why do we fight this” in calamity

sleek halo
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justified

deft vessel
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Now thinking about this Yharim really seems like an internet politics person

pliant ruin
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Permafrost is a good guy

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but he's not

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100% innocent

little ginkgo
pliant ruin
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Lore doc

sleek halo
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Killing every god is uh…

solar wharf
sleek halo
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A bit

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crazy

little ginkgo
frigid mulch
spare pier
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Not the Bestiary, but yeah

pliant ruin
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It dosen't cancel it out tbh

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It dosen't make him "pure"

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Again

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he's a good guy yeah

sleek halo
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I’d say Permafrost was just generally a worse person in the past

pliant ruin
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but is he completely innocent? No, not really

sleek halo
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but improved over time

hot valve
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Basically: after our fight, with WoF, slime god tried to make a new Paladin out of the hallowed essences (since we destroyed it’s others)
The Paladin rebelled however, trapping slime god in it

sleek halo
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He was complacent in what Yharim did seemingly

hot valve
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So it cannot escape when we beat queen slime, killing him

indigo glade
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Permafrost is that one grandpa who is always doing the best for their family.

sleek halo
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And actively helped

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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I'm surprised you didn't mention Amidias, my guy did literally nothing wrong as far as we know right now

indigo glade
sleek halo
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Illmeris

pliant ruin
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We will def get more Amidias lore in sunken sea though

solar wharf
sleek halo
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Or how it was ruled

frigid mulch
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Tbh we don't even know if permafrost participated in killing gods, he just tutored a helpless child then got imprisoned

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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Even if he didn't participate

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He was complacent

hot valve
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I think permafrost helped yharim when yharim was mainly taking out evil tyrant gods

pliant ruin
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Likely he didn't understand the full extent of Yharim's actions

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yeah

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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He probably saw some red flags

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But didn't think much of them

spare pier
sleek halo
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I kinda feel like

deft vessel
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Amidas introduced a terrible tax reform

spare pier
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I think Queen Slime is fine

sleek halo
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they had to be friends

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before the whole

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Crusade thing

brave dew
frigid mulch
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Oh my god is there literally anyone 100% pure in this mod

spare pier
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I unironically have suggested changing Queen Slime's death sound because it's one of those things that just

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Man

pliant ruin
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Not really because people aren't like that in real life

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Everyone has flaws

frigid mulch
pliant ruin
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But if you want the closest thing

brave dew
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Queen slime death sound is fart lol

indigo glade
hot valve
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I don’t even remember what queen slime’s death sound is like

pliant ruin
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Rn i'd say it's Amidias?

spare pier
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It's a fart

hot valve
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Is it seriously a fart

pliant ruin
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Amidias does literally nothing wrong as far as we know

spare pier
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Queen Slime's death sound is a fart

hot valve
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Guh

pliant ruin
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he just

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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🐴 go my honse

solar wharf
frigid mulch
pliant ruin
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Sea king

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Seahorse man

indigo glade
frigid mulch
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Ah

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Ig it works

hoary berry
spare pier
deft vessel
spare pier
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Thankfully

hot valve
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What’s the worst

spare pier
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It's just stupid

pliant ruin
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I think he would tbh

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Amidias is a

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very honest person i think

spare pier
pliant ruin
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He dosen't seem like the type of guy to like

hot valve
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Ah.

pliant ruin
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Hide his past mistakes from people

spare pier
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That one imo is just straight up gross

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Like, every other joke in Terraria is at most just bad

frigid mulch
spare pier
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Party Girl Bathwater is outright vile

pliant ruin
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What does yharim have to do with this tho

sleek halo
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they gotta be

pliant ruin
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Party Girl Bathwater killed my grandma

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Terraria humor is really

deft vessel
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Obviously

frigid mulch
pliant ruin
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uh

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Oh no he's manipulating you

spare pier
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Terraria humor is crude

sleek halo
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I feel like the humor is made when they’re high

devout grotto
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Uh product of its time ig????

hot valve
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Yharim regrets some things

devout grotto
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The bathwater thing in particular

hot valve
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But he definitely would just commit the whole genocide again

spare pier
pliant ruin
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Yharim dosen't regret the entire genocide thing and actively stil supports it yeah

devout grotto
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Yeah ik 😭

sleek halo
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2020 is almost 5 years ago reb

solar wharf
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DAMN11!11!!

tall delta
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steam gift lets gooo

hoary berry
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that one lasted for a while

deft vessel
indigo glade
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Cheese.

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How could you.

frigid mulch
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"Hey did you remember that one time i spilled that blind girls coffee and ran off? Yeah, i'm terribly sorry for that happening but to advance you have to kill her."

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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I also think he dosen't understand how badly he damaged Calamitas psyche because he seems to somewhat regret it but for the wrong reasons

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I think in yharim's head

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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He should've just waited for her to grow older

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before turning her into a soldier

sleek halo
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Yeah

tall delta
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what could be the exact reason of why permafrost sided with yharim

pliant ruin
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its not afctually manipulating her into a soldier that he thinks was wrong

pliant ruin
sleek halo
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just a weapon

hot valve
pliant ruin
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Honestly

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CAlamitas was literally a reusable nuclear bomb for yharim

spare pier
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THE GUY WHO HAD HIS ENTIRE FUCKING CIVILIZATION INCINERATED WANTS TO SPREAD AWARENESS ABOUT HOW BAD THE GUY WHO ORDERED SAID INCINERATION IS

deft vessel
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Iirc a lot the evil one Were close to Yharim in location

frigid mulch
tall delta
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what If permafrost is also a dragon fan

sleek halo
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During lkke

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his talk on Yharim

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I mean DoG

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lol

hot valve
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I have no idea how permafrost feels about dragons tbh

sleek halo
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he just randomly drops the fact he fought two people and almost lost

hot valve
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He probably likes them?

sleek halo
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Yharim just saying shit to say shit

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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Yharim saying "oh yeah it was a truce"

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"but dog STOLE MY KILL"

sleek halo
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He had NO reason to bring that up

tall delta
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How old is permafrost

sleek halo
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Literally unprovoked

pliant ruin
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Draedon: dude you were fucking dying and dog saved you

spare pier
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Tbf now that I think about it Signus' Lore Item should prolly be changed

hot valve
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What about it

spare pier
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It also happens to be a product of

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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what's signus lore item again

spare pier
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"Lore Items are the only source right now so we should talk about this where we can"

sleek halo
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“Yeah I was about to die”

spare pier
deft vessel
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I mean if you are going to fight someone soon, you probably dont want to downplay yourself

sleek halo
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Like the braelor & statis fight

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feels

fierce pagoda
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Signus is so mid, hes like "oooh look how mysterious he is" then we just kill him like any other boss and its over

sleek halo
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so out of place

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And the fact Yharim admits to it is also

fierce pagoda
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forgotten just like that

sleek halo
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Extremely odd

pliant ruin
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Yharim dosen't tho

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in fact

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he actively

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lies abt it

frigid mulch
pliant ruin
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making it seem like it was a tie

hot valve
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Wait he mentions that fight in the Signus lore item??

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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he makes it seem like it was in his favour

sleek halo
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was going in for the final blow

pliant ruin
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draedon

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is the one

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that talks abt how he was fucking mauled

spare pier
little ginkgo
# solar wharf queen slimes entry and bestiary

"Ensnared in the absorption process of its newfound power… it could not flee again.
Or perhaps it was overcome by desperation for survival.
A glorious hunt, a fine foe. Now you know that you must chase them to the ends of Terraria."

it cant flee again and i must chase them??

pliant ruin
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In fact none of the ppl here knew yharim was beaten up so badly until draetalk came out

spare pier
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Statis' compatriot Braelor dueled me to a standstill. With our blades locked, the ronin lunged for the lethal blow.
The Devourer is not one for honor or loyalty. But he sensed weakness. Hesitation. An easy prey.
The serpent ensnared both my assailants in a dimensional vortex. Assuring me they were as good as dead.

sleek halo
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Yharim says that while he and Braelor

hot valve
pliant ruin
indigo glade
pliant ruin
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i didn't remember that part i'll admiat

fierce pagoda
pliant ruin
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but at the same time

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he still just sounds

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alot more confident

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than someone who almost fucking died

spare pier
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Yeah he's alive HDfailure

sleek halo
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Also he hypes Braelor up in providence

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thing

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He compares Braelor to himself and Scal

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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I like the idea of yharim lying to make it seem like it was a tie and draedon coming in and saying he was fucking mauled alot more tbh

sleek halo
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Draedon undermines him in different ways

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unintentionally

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Especially the fact that Yharim went back to Draedon

hot valve
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I wonder who made Statis’ prosthetics actually

spare pier
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I mean, I wouldn't say Yharim was mauled, he just lost the fight

sleek halo
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Realistically

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Braelor was likely just as hurt

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if not in a worse state

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than Yharim

fierce pagoda
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Yharim lost? no way!

frigid mulch
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I was told Draedon sees no need in lying so he speaks truthfully, but now we headcanon draedon begrudgingly showering yharim's name in dirt

spare pier
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And then went to get some upgrades because he realized that people are actually getting close to him

pliant ruin
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It fits his character as far as i'm aware and amkes for interesting narrative

deft vessel
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Tbh downplaying your main villain near the end is not the best

fierce pagoda
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Yharims image is ruined forever

pliant ruin
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It's not really downplaying

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It's showing that he lies

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It'd be a great way to show that

indigo glade
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Yharim lies??? I never knew that!

pliant ruin
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Yharim talks about his fight with braelor, how they were tied, both wounded, but he managed to win in the end (But ommits the devourer saving him)

deft vessel
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I’d personally prefer that it was after the fight

hot valve
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I think it’s more so showing that yharim isn’t invincible, and that other characters in this world are also strong

pliant ruin
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Draedon explains that like

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Devourer saved him and he was on the losing end

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It'd be really interesting imo, not only sort of exposing yharim for omitting information but also showing he's not invincible, that you can beat him

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As it stands i don't see why yharim would tell the person he's trying to manipulate "i almost died to these guys this one time"

sleek halo
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Who know

spare pier
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Either way, I do think Signus' Lore Item should be changed later down the line because it suffers from sharing too much information at the wrong time due to there being no other source for said, incredibly important event

sleek halo
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But I kinda imagine the fight went

spare pier
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I'm probably going to change Plantera, Ravager, Storm Weaver and Signus eventually

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And of course, Empress of Light

fierce pagoda
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What the hell does Brealor do in the distortion, does he like just rot away with nothing to do, what if he's like gone insane from the time spent there all alone

devout grotto
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👀

fierce pagoda
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or does he have to fight for his life every day

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since the distortion is crazy dangerous

frigid mulch
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Golem's lore item is a thing, too

pliant ruin
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He's not been there for too long

spare pier
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Empress is the only instance of major Lore being rewritten because it kinda sucks

hot valve
indigo glade
pliant ruin
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He's not going insane i don't think

sleek halo
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Braelor and Statis get a surprise attack -> Braelor takes up the main fight with occasional support from Statis when losing -> he manages to lock his and Yharim’s blades together -> statis goes in for final blow

hot valve
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I think the real concern is how is Braelor getting nutrients

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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he almost lost

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I feel like it'd make much more sense

hot valve
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Like I highly doubt braelor is eating distortion enemies

indigo glade
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To say that they're dangerous and not to interact with them.

spare pier
pliant ruin
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If yharim wanted to make him seem like a hero

indigo glade
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If he won, they wouldn't be alive.

pliant ruin
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if he worded things to make it seem like he won, but it was a close match

fierce pagoda
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Brealor is eating Distortion flesh

pliant ruin
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I think Yharim probalby dosen't even know they're alive though

frigid mulch
pliant ruin
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It seems out of left field to make the genocidal maniac a racist?

frigid mulch
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Well, i mean like

pliant ruin
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Like, that's his entire character

devout grotto
pliant ruin
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Yharim is racism

spare pier
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WHY DO YOU THINK HE INCINERATED ENTIRE FUCKING CIVILIZATIONS BECAUSE OF WHO THEY WORSHIPPED????

pliant ruin
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He is the embodiment of racism

frigid mulch
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Fuck you're right

spare pier
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Yeah, Yharim is

deft vessel
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You want your villain to be villainous

spare pier
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I mean, it was kind of a coincidence

fierce pagoda
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Wow, Yharim is exactly the kind of character the sigma and alpha male people would cling to

spare pier
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But he is racist, it kinda comes free with his goal

hot valve
devout grotto
frigid mulch
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I meant how lihzards did jackshit to yharim and he still "pities" them

split mortar
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I’d be surprised if yharim wasn’t racist

pliant ruin
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Probably because they worship a false god

spare pier
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They worshipped a God, that's offense enough HDfailure

indigo glade
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Wow! Genociding people against a certain ethnic group is racist? I didn't know that!

pliant ruin
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That's worthy of pity in his eyes

fierce pagoda
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What else -ist thing is Yharim

pliant ruin
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homophobic

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this is not a -ist

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i don't care. he's homophobic.,

fierce pagoda
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LMAO

devout grotto
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So true

hot valve
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He’s pisst

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🥴

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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stinky piss armor man

spare pier
pliant ruin
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true actually he is fascist

indigo glade
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(I do not know if that applies)

pliant ruin
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it does i think

little ginkgo
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where is the grave of light ?

pliant ruin
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dragon aerie

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not ingame rn

indigo glade
little ginkgo
fierce pagoda
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Do you think Yharim spread racist propaganders during his crusades

little ginkgo
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whos grave is it though

indigo glade
spare pier
deft vessel
deft vessel
spare pier
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Yharim doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but thinks he's educated enough to make a guess

pliant ruin
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chat

spare pier
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Instead of right now where he just seems idiotically convinced he knows about shit

pliant ruin
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my internet sucks and is slow and discord is a pain to talk in

indigo glade
fierce pagoda
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He's strong enough that no one can prove him wrong too lmao

pliant ruin
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should i do more level design (unrelated to lore but SKREEEONK SKREEEEONK GREEEOWL)

wheat walrus
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gang I really don't know why people want Calamity Mod to have strong powerscaling like Ruffed Grouse solos regardless

split mortar
wheat walrus
frigid mulch
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Yharim was Religiously Discriminative, but the Golem lore iten straight up makes him racist.

spare pier
spare pier
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I'd change it to be

fierce pagoda
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you can never go wrong with chicken

wheat walrus
frigid mulch
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If they worship another god why doesn't he kill them?

indigo glade
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I think this is peak Reddit.

fierce pagoda
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but maybe it would be worth it?

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chickens taste so similar anyways so maybe not

indigo glade
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You do realise

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he

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INCINERATED

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an entire ocean.

split mortar
indigo glade
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Because fish people lived there.

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
spare pier
hot valve
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Lmao

split mortar
dusk laurel
hot valve
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Fair

split mortar
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lol

hot valve
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I assume the steampunker probably gave statis his prosthetics? It definitely wasn’t Draedon and I don’t think there’s anyone else who could

spare pier
fierce pagoda
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he found them laying on the ground

spare pier
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I see no need to intervene in affairs beneath me and my people.

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
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will we ever have a picture of Yharim without his body armor, wearing only his boxers, similar to the Xeroc concept art?

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im just askin

little ginkgo
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no

hot valve
fierce pagoda
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god DAMN IT

hot valve
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Up to interpretation how he looks

fierce pagoda
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really?

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then I interpret him being Hot asf

hoary berry
hot valve
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Go right ahead

split mortar
little ginkgo
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I think hes just a red head with a very large beard like the demolitionist

hot valve
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You can interpret it as him being severely scarred after lava or that he fully healed

frigid mulch
hot valve
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He could be bald and the thing on his helmet is a big feather, or that could be his hair

frigid mulch
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I also saw him unharmed from that yharon lava incident

split mortar
hot valve
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I like it more as his hair personally but I think a large plume is entirely reasonable

little ginkgo
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guys look its sand under

frigid mulch
hot valve
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To be honest? Could be

fierce pagoda
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nah Yharim needs to be hot as hell to fit the agenda

frigid mulch
split mortar
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If anything the agenda would do better if he was ugly imo

fierce pagoda
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Evil people being forgiven by the fanbase because they are attractive

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thats the agenda

fierce pagoda
wheat walrus
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bro

fierce pagoda
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yummy in my tummy

indigo glade
spare pier
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I just discovered "racist" and "racism" are filtered words by the autobot so I may have flooded the mod chat for that hdflr

wheat walrus
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you ain't acting as if ruffed grouse wouldn't just no diff you

fierce pagoda
indigo glade
hot valve
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Whoops

fierce pagoda
frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
wheat walrus
fierce pagoda
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a WHOLE chicken is enough for someone like me

indigo glade
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Wrong.

fierce pagoda
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maybe not other people, but for me yes

brave dew
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A whole chicken is way too small for you

fierce pagoda
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no i just get full rather quick

frigid mulch
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Question: what if kirby absorbed the chicken?

fierce pagoda
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then kirby would taste good i suppose

wheat walrus
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ruffed grouse would destroy kirby manz

hot valve
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I wonder where Statis scales in power?

wheat walrus
hot valve
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Like Braelor is clearly up high, probably around DoG level

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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oh wow i looked up the ruffed grouse meat, and its smaller than i thought... maybe one wouldnt be enough after all

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Statis apparently has a crazy feat

hot valve
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I’m confident that Statis likely cannot take moonlord solo

frigid mulch
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Guys i know what's stronger than a ruffed grouse!
||A bigger ruffed grouse||

fierce pagoda
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Statis will be weaker than providence me thinks

hot valve
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Oh for sure

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Braelor isn’t that much past Providence

frigid mulch
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Why did providence only re-emerge after moon lord died? Was she scared shitless?

fierce pagoda
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Would Statis maybe be moonlord tier?

faint plank
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Braelor is the guy with the big axe in that one pic right

hot valve
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I think Braelor + Statis vs Yharim was like 80~90% Braelor lmao

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Yes

hot valve
fierce pagoda
hot valve
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I am pretty confident in Statis not being capable of beating moon lord

fierce pagoda
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yeah i agree

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i just dont see it appening

split mortar
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Idk

hot valve
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Providence’s guardians attack us

split mortar
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Yeah

hot valve
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They see us a threat to her great plan

fierce pagoda
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She seeks you out! so you summoning her isnt canonious

hot valve
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She gets really pissed we killed her girlies

fierce pagoda
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she comes to you

frigid mulch
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So she was still scared shitless (not of moon lord but of us)

hot valve
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And then comes to slaughter us

brave dew
hot valve
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Weakened

split mortar
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Weakened

fierce pagoda
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the weekend

brave dew
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Statis sucks lol

hot valve
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I mean beating moonlord is one of the higher tier feats in this world lmaoo

brave dew
#

Cant even beat gru

hot valve
#

As far as I’m aware providence comes and fights us because we beat her guardians and she’s really pissed about that

#

They were her close friends who she killed the dragon of Flame with

fierce pagoda
#

Xeroc doesnt even get past Kid Goku

hot valve
#

We also hold the power she gave to the guardians so she also wants to come reclaim that

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
hot valve
#

Statis probably scales around…post-Golem I’d say?

brave dew
indigo glade
#

The heart of Her Guardians, Her wicked wrath shall burn upon whoever now wields it.

hot valve
#

Stuff like empress, Duke, Plaguebringer

brave dew
#

In dbz a god would be like idk beerus or whatever

fierce pagoda
#

Xeroc is like continent level or something

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
#

King piccolo tier

#

which kid goku killed

split mortar
hot valve
#

I mean we evidently have a fight with golem
I’m just using it for scale in progression

#

As far as I’m aware progression is canon in power

fierce pagoda
#

nah i think Statis would fair well against the cultist

hot valve
#

That’s
Fair actually

#

I think deus is the stopping point

frigid mulch
#

On an unrelated note, what relevance does plantera have to the lore?

fierce pagoda
#

yeah

sleek halo
#

The sw stuff is so funky to me

wheat walrus
hot valve
#

Iirc

fierce pagoda
#

i mean still pretty strong

hot valve
#

Plantera was made to bring about some kind of new biological advancements in plants

fierce pagoda
#

but in comparison

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not so strong

hot valve
#

It went wrong, evidently

#

The people who made it come from where Braelor lives or something

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I think braelor used to live in the vernal pass anyway

frigid mulch
#

I thought xeroc was above moonlord

fierce pagoda
#

what brealor lived there!?

#

i didnt know that

hot valve
#

I think??

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I know his pet is eventually being added

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And they will spawn in the verbal pass

faint plank
#

is that the reason why u find feller of evergreens there lel

frigid mulch
#

Who singlehandedly caused the need of uniting the world's races against him

wheat walrus
#

he is

hot valve
wheat walrus
#

both current ml and the one that was at full power and not all destroyed like that

frigid mulch
#

I meant like

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Forget it

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
#

Xeroc is so much more powerful than anyone ever in the cal verse

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like not a single being comes close

wheat walrus
#

dragon ball is NOT a good example of scaling like that

#

and like

sleek halo
wheat walrus
#

country level is on a tier comparable to the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, or at least the kinetic energy of its impact

sleek halo
#

they do kinda come close

wheat walrus
#

but like

fierce pagoda
#

I just think its kinda funny to say Xeroc loses to kid Goku

frigid mulch
#

Isn't xeroc restricted from the terraria world for whatever reason?

#

Like

#

In the distortion

wheat walrus
sleek halo
#

Noxus would likely give Xeroc a fucking hell of a battle

hot valve
#

Yeah

wheat walrus
hot valve
#

Noxus and Xeroc is definitely close

sleek halo
#

but it’s highly unlikely

faint plank
#

do we have a noxus desing?

fierce pagoda
#

maybe? i dont know enough about Noxus's powers

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nor where his strength exactly lies

#

other than that hes stronger than any boss in-game currently

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same for Xeroc really

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but hes like stated to be the strongest by devs

hot valve
sleek halo
#

Xeroc’s best proof of strength rn

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Is br

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which tbf is insanely impressive

brave dew
#

Whats br

sleek halo
#

boss rush

fierce pagoda
#

Boss rush

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damn it

#

too slow

sleek halo
#

🐌

frigid mulch
brave dew
#

"Better late then never" ahh

frigid mulch
#

😭

brave dew
#

But isnt xeroc the one that summoned br ?

sleek halo
#

basically Xeroc

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Makes the bosses

fierce pagoda
#

Xeroc is the big thing in the background

sleek halo
#

out of his primordial light

fierce pagoda
#

or like part of him

#

sorry

#

them

brave dew
#

The eye

sleek halo
#

its a sigil

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

prime light

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prime energy drink

brave dew
#

Still water those who know 💀

fierce pagoda
split mortar
#

Oh god there’s two brainrot a

sleek halo
#

Something funny to me

hot valve
#

Honestly one of xeroc’s best feats is that draedon doesn’t know he exists lmao

sleek halo
#

is he

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says

split mortar
sleek halo
#

He caught glimpses of your journey

sleek halo
#

and proceeds to recreate every major boss

fierce pagoda
#

i didnt know that either

hot valve
#

Draedon has no idea Xeroc exists yeah

brave dew
#

Draedln is so dumb

fierce pagoda
#

i thought bro was in the know

sleek halo
split mortar
sleek halo
#

only glimpses

split mortar
#

When xeroc would like two shit them

fierce pagoda
brave dew
sleek halo
brave dew
#

Just that he didnt wanted to

#

Thats kinda dumb tbh

sleek halo
#

why would he

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

does anyone agree that "The Traitor Allmighty" is a sick ass nickname for Xeroc?

brave dew
#

We're just gonna end up being too strong and kill him

hot valve
#

Exo mechs lore item

Yharim states that Draedon confidentially states his mechs are stronger than all gods
He would be correct if he wasn’t taking into account Xeroc (which is what suggests Draedon doesn’t know about Xeroc)

fierce pagoda
#

Yharim only knows through Yharon then?

hot valve
#

Draedon is not one to incorrect scale the power of a god
He simply just has no idea Xeroc is a thing

hot valve
fierce pagoda
#

and the player either does or does not know due to headcanon shenanigans

frigid mulch
split mortar
#

Yharim is at least multiple times draedons age

fierce pagoda
#

no i was thinking like maybe Yharim found out on his own, or knew him through books, but Yharon telling him is more likely

split mortar
#

Also it’s likely not even providence knows of xeroc so draedon may just be too young to know ow

hot valve
fierce pagoda
#

would be cool if we found out that Xeroc is in space protecting Terraria from space threats, but may not be likely since he let the martians slip through

hot valve
#

Draedon woke up at 1227
The crusade begun at 1781

frigid mulch
#

Hey why was xeroc's insignia hidden in the abyss? I know he's the first god and allat but still

fierce pagoda
#

maybe someone hid it there

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so that no one could ever use it again

hot valve
#

Xeroc put it there iirc

#

Silva just made sure xeroc cannot come back to get it

#

I don’t…know why though

fierce pagoda
#

lol

#

What does Silva have against Xeroc

#

maybe a crazy ex situation

frigid mulch
#

Xeroc probably too strong to take on

fierce pagoda
#

that would acc be crazy

rotund shore
#

we still dont like fully know what terminus does, even if theres definitely solid theories

hot valve
#

Hilariously though Xeroc can effortlessly come and reclaim it

split mortar
hot valve
#

Ohh

#

Yeah

frigid mulch
hot valve
#

Yharon is thousands of years old

split mortar
#

Yharon the dragon is much older then draedon

rotund shore
hot valve
#

Bro probably was there to celebrate year 1

#

Like congrats lmao

fierce pagoda
#

or something else at least

rotund shore
split mortar
rotund shore
#

the theory I personally believe in for terminus is that its how you perfect ascent

sleek halo
#

He tells you himself that it essentially has no function anymore

fierce pagoda
#

It broke

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😢

#

he let his nephew play with it

rotund shore
#

aka silva

frigid mulch
#

Ig i could headcanon that the terminus with xeroc's insignia is used to contain noxus, which is why he doesn't come and wreck the world 🤷

rotund shore
#

although yeah it doesnt do shit any more

hot valve
#

It’s cool to think about how there’s a chunk of gods who escaped the crusade

#

Living out somewhere in terraria

#

Unnamed in the actual game

rotund shore
#

yeah, we know slime god and provi, but like, we're just on one island/continent, theres likely many others

hot valve
#

Doing god stuff on continents

fierce pagoda
#

Probably not too big of a threat any ways, as we know the average dragon was around the strenght of a eidolon wyrm

hot valve
#

I theorized God of Blood was chillin somewhere but it seems more likely that ravager contains it’s corpse so rip that

fierce pagoda
#

which means that the average god would probably be on the same level

#

nothing we cant handle

#

if one decides to go rogue

hot valve
#

Tbh most gods aren’t morally bad

fierce pagoda
#

wait no not like rogue the class

rotund shore
#

yeah the handful of remaining gods likely arent very strong

hot valve
#

Most are morally gray with some good ones

rotund shore
#

with the exception of xeroc ofc

frigid mulch
hot valve
#

Most of the ones remaining are likely very elusive rather than actually strong

hot valve
rotund shore
#

alot of gods are evil, dont get me wrong, but yharim generalized it so much

#

I mean we fight providence who is just like cartoon villain levels of evil

frigid mulch
fierce pagoda
#

do you think its possible to become stronger than Xeroc, without an auric soul? just get stronger through pure training, gear and all that,

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

or is Xerocs auric soul too powerful to be surpassed natrually

rotund shore
#

xeroc doesnt have an auric soul

#

he has a funky god soul

fierce pagoda
#

i meant

#

you know what i meant jeez

rotund shore
#

but like yeah I dont think anybody who isnt a god could surpass xeroc tbh

split mortar
rotund shore
hot valve
#

Here

rotund shore
#

yharim was cooking...until he got to the actually good gods

untold oracle
#

Even if you consumed the world soul your power level will be same with xeroc

rotund shore
#

noxus is second most powerful

hot valve
#

I think killing a bunch of morally gray gods isn’t exactly great either

#

And killing followers is just horrible

tall delta
untold oracle
#

Noxus is third I think

tall delta
#

maybe in the aerie

untold oracle
#

Full power Fovos being second

hot valve
#

Noxus is 2nd I think

solar wharf
fierce pagoda
#

Is Xeroc the most powerful because he IS a god? or is he the most powerful cause hes Xeroc??

hot valve
#

I believe he was put above Fovos

rotund shore
#

yeah but fovos hasnt been in its prime in like 800 years

hot valve
#

But I actually don’t remember

solar wharf
hot valve
frigid mulch
#

Btw, why is xeroc the most powerful? He literally invented consuming dragon souls, inventors usually get surpassed quickly

rotund shore
fierce pagoda
#

he also apparently trained after becoming a god

#

which few gods do

hot valve
#

Xeroc got the equivalent of rolling Gold Experience Requiem in the ascension category

split mortar
#

Oh nvm it’s xerocs potential

hot valve
#

Okay less strong than that but you get the idea

fierce pagoda
#

So Xeroc can keep getting as strong as the universe allows?

sleek halo
#

No

fierce pagoda
#

then can't the same be said about us?

sleek halo
#

He's close to reaching the essential limit

#

of the universe

frigid mulch
#

We are the second coming of xeroc (Trust)

sleek halo
#

in terms of strength

fierce pagoda
#

Maybe Xeroc will grant us his blessing after our fight with him

sleek halo
#

Xeroc has a lot of factors

#

that made him like this

rotund shore
#

decently strong dude + perfect ascent + using zeratros' soul + training

fierce pagoda
#

you know are his pronounes both he/him and they/them? or only them

hot valve
#

Perfect ascension + Crazy domain + Innantely strong

sleek halo
#

But tbf, we know fuck all about what could be out in the cal universe

sleek halo
split mortar
#

Decently? Guy was like rivalling yharon before ascension iirc

sleek halo
#

the concept of pronouns

#

isn't really important

frigid mulch
#

When did they add domains to calamity

fierce pagoda
#

right, cuz i heard xeroc is nonbinary

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

lmao

split mortar
hot valve
#

LOL

sleek halo
#

yk I wonder

#

if xeroc was always his name

#

maybe it's not

rotund shore
split mortar
#

Yeah

hot valve
#

Xeroc is his god name

frigid mulch
sleek halo
#

What if monks just

fierce pagoda
#

Roc was his name

#

before god

split mortar
#

Xeroc is the mix of zeratros and the old name of xeroc

sleek halo
#

didn't have names

sleek halo
fierce pagoda
#

his name was XeXe

hot valve
#

Apparently the name Xeroc being close to Zeratros is no coincidence

tall delta
#

Pretty much the only things capable of surpassing xeroc in strength would be a god terrarian/yharim

#

which guess what!!!!!

spare pier
#

Xeroc's power level before Ascension is something I prefer to keep vague due to overall disagreements between the writers

spare pier
#

Like, I think he should be really strong, yeah

spare pier
#

But more like Providence/DoG level

sleek halo
#

I kinda wonder what

hot valve
#

Oh yeah reb while you’re here

fierce pagoda
#

yeah so pretty strong

sleek halo
#

Yharim could reach

#

at his full potential

spare pier
#

Cei, meanwhile, thinks he should be as strong as Yharim currently is

hot valve
#

Where do you think Statis places power level wise

spare pier
#

So

hot valve
#

Cultist? Or is it lower/higher

sleek halo
#

eh

#

Yharim is a warrior

fierce pagoda
#

I agree with Cei

sleek halo
#

Xeroc likely wasn't

split mortar
spare pier
#

I think it's better to leave Xeroc's power level before ascending vague

fierce pagoda
#

its cooler if Xeroc is as strong as Yharim was

#

uhh is

spare pier
#

How strong was Xeroc before ascending?

#

Enough

fierce pagoda
#

too bad the player wont be defeating Xeroc

sleek halo
fierce pagoda
#

but like wont that contradict with the whole "terrarian lore is up to you"?

#

like not allowing us to beat Xeroc

hot valve
#

Xeroc’s name being a mix of Zeratros and his own name makes me think it’s probably something like Roxas

split mortar
spare pier
devout grotto
#

Yep

untold oracle
spare pier
#

That's Xeroc being too strong

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

i said bear!

#

beat

split mortar
devout grotto
hot valve
#

I mean terrarian lore being up to you is- yeah what melon said

fierce pagoda
spare pier
#

/shrug

fierce pagoda
#

lol

spare pier
#

Fuck

sleek halo
#

then u beat him in your headcanon

devout grotto
#

I just like the idea of my Terrarian being like an anime RPG protagonist clueless

sleek halo
#

that shrimple

wheat walrus
#

Mod that lets you kill Xeroc guys

sleek halo
#

real

#

Watch that actually happen

hot valve
#

Journey mode terrarian with godmode enabled is actually real and true

devout grotto
#

(Someone stop me from making the stupidest fucking joke rn)

devout grotto
#

No

tall delta
devout grotto
fierce pagoda
#

there, stopped you

wheat walrus
sleek halo
#

Yk

#

I wonder what the theoretical limits of technology is

fierce pagoda
#

exo crytasl2.0

hot valve
#

A good question

sleek halo
#

The exo mechs seem like the tip of the iceberg

strange stump
sleek halo
#

realistically

#

the limits of what someone like Draedon can do

wheat walrus
sleek halo
#

is due to simply lack of resources

devout grotto
hot valve
#

A fight against the god of space sounds like it would be really cool

split mortar
strange stump
#

god of what

sleek halo
split mortar
hot valve
fierce pagoda
#

I can headcanon that my character loses to Xeroc, Not because Xeroc was stronger, but because my character held back or something

hot valve
#

MODDERS! Get to it..

fierce pagoda
#

so im still stronger but still lost

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

sigma

#

lets go

hot valve
#

Yeah geometric space

#

What the space stone controls in marvel

fierce pagoda
#

uhh teleportation i think

hot valve
#

Teleportation is almost certainly in their arsenal

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

I imagine so would portals

untold oracle
fierce pagoda
#

Black hole bombs!

untold oracle
#

Yeah

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

i remember a kurzgesagt video on that

#

how the hell do you spell it

devout grotto
untold oracle
#

There’s a distinction of brainrot

split mortar
untold oracle
#

Regular brainrot is largely loathed but calamity brainrot seems to be giggles

fierce pagoda
#

ohh state of the game in 2 days

untold oracle
#

Should I make Yharon drop a box of 12-piece YharNuggetz™️?

fierce pagoda
#

Yhar!!

#

pirates

sleek halo
split mortar
#

What’s the diagram with the alters for night souls

fierce pagoda
#

Magic vs Technology calamity people when Primordial light walks in:

split mortar
#

^

spring helm
#

What

split mortar
#

The one for souls of night to drop from evil alters

fierce pagoda
#

oh i think lower middle and left for demon alrats

hot valve
#

Oh for which block to hit

fierce pagoda
#

and upper right and middle for crimson altars

sleek halo
fierce pagoda
#

im not sure though

sleek halo
#

Draedon is kinda limited by the fact he cannot heavily experiment with stuff like magic

#

Seemingly at least

fierce pagoda
#

he doesnt have bones to channel mana

#

L

sleek halo
#

Draedon is incredibly smart

#

likely the smartest known thing in the universe

#

But he is also 1 person

fierce pagoda
#

he can make clones

high lynx
#

Unless he makes more

sleek halo
high lynx
#

But he has done at least a bit regarding magic

sleek halo
#

Afaik they all share the same exact mind

high lynx
#

Cal clone

sleek halo
#

Cal clone never got their brimstone magic

high lynx
#

And a lot of his stuff is inspired

sleek halo
#

until after it was taken by

high lynx
#

My bad

sleek halo
#

cal

high lynx
#

Yeah the transfer

split mortar
#

Either way draedon with unlimited time would find all the knowledge, so I would think that’s decent proof

high lynx
#

I wonder if draedon would ever make a person sized exo mech

spring helm
#

That’s us

#

🤯

high lynx
#

Thats a theory

#

Then why do we explode in blood when we die

#

And its probably not motor oil

split mortar
spring helm
high lynx
#

Bah you got me

hot valve
#

Statis should ask draedon to make him Exo limbs fr fr

devout grotto
spring helm
hot valve
#

Lmao go ahead

split mortar
hot valve
#

“Statis. You are no match for m-“
Statis with his exo arm:

spring helm
#

It's like the Wulfrum Set, Statis activates the prosthetics and a suit of exo armour surrounds him

frozen zodiac
untold oracle
#

Remember that one discussion of the wulfrum prosthesis sucking all the electrons from one’s body

split mortar
split mortar
#

How to make a bomb 101

untold oracle
#

Statis fucking ionizes Yharim from existence

frozen zodiac
#

its so sad Xeratros died of ligma

split mortar
#

Who the hell is Xeratros

frozen zodiac
#

ligma balls

untold oracle
devout grotto
#

😭

hot valve
#

does Exo statis beat providence

#

that is such a funny thing to ask

wheat walrus
#

gang

split mortar
#

Yes, single Exo weapon in our hands nuke her

hot valve
#

miracle matter statis void sash upgrade
Call it Statis' Exo Belt

split mortar
#

Statis miraculous belt

frozen zodiac
#

IT IS NOT A MIRACLE I SPENT DECADES RESEARCHING HOW TO MAKE THE PERFECT MATERIAL
-FallWithinMyCalculations

dusk laurel
devout grotto
#

😭

solar wharf
split mortar
#

Be omni or gator

hot valve
#

Lmao??

hoary berry
#

the 193 days is wild

wheat walrus
strange stump
dusk laurel
#

Strongest link in Paris

devout grotto
#

Got way too intrigued by him hdflr

split mortar