lore-discussion

[frank dune]

Fine no more taxes sorry

[pliant ruin]

anyways can we talk about Lore

[dusk laurel]

Please

[indigo glade]

i hope so

[pliant ruin]

i've been trying a few times to bring up conversation topics

[frank dune]

Thus chat cannot stand my calamity

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

can you please stop

@_@

[frank dune]

Sorry i typed too late

[pliant ruin]

ok anyways

[split mortar]

I think slime god would be able to escape queen slime eventually

[pliant ruin]

do you guys have any particular thoughts on any of the more obscure calamity characters

like the ones that have barely any lore in them

[pliant ruin]

probably would

[indigo glade]

ilmeran gods

[pliant ruin]

i doubt a crystal is trapping a god forever

even if it's one of the weaker ones

[indigo glade]

have nothing to say about them theyre just on my mind sometimes

[thick slate]

i hope we get more signus lore when distortion drops

[split mortar]

I thought the crystal was like a solidified slime god inside queen slime

[pliant ruin]

I feel like signus will probably have

[split mortar]

Same

[pliant ruin]

alot of lore drops with statis update

whenever that is

[thick slate]

probably with distor

[frank dune]

Bro is no more coke

[scenic olive]

me after i kill Queen Slime :

[pliant ruin]

what does this even mean

[thick slate]

i think it makes sense for braelor and statis to be same update

[indigo glade]

they eat slime god

[split mortar]

Eating the slime gif crystal

[scenic olive]

i ate the core

[pliant ruin]

oh wait

god of sacrifices

do you guys buy him being a good guy

[thick slate]

yes

[frank dune]

Ig

[split mortar]

I think so

[dusk laurel]

I kinda do

[thick slate]

i want more good gods

[dusk laurel]

Before the necromancy

[pliant ruin]

I think it'd be a really cool subversion of the trope

[thick slate]

everyone too evil

[indigo glade]

i dont think theyd be this big bad evil but i dont think theyll be perfectly good either

[split mortar]

I imagine they weren’t a saint or prefect, but were quite good

[pliant ruin]

The only actual benevolent god we know of rn is Otonilou right?

[thick slate]

silva?

[pliant ruin]

All the others are either Evil, Morally Gray or Unknown

[indigo glade]

hallow gods but they arent really

a person

[pliant ruin]

We don't have any confirmations on Silva i don't think

[split mortar]

We know like nothing of her personality iirc

[thick slate]

dam

[frank dune]

She is god

[split mortar]

We know she blessed jared and braelor though

[indigo glade]

yharim says shes bad so she must be

[frank dune]

She is mush-able

[pliant ruin]

I personally think Silva is a good god

[split mortar]

The yhariganda strikes again

[split mortar]

Same

[pliant ruin]

but that's just a headcanon right now

[split mortar]

Braelor seems like he would be decent

[frank dune]

Cuz mush you get it

[split mortar]

Ye

[pliant ruin]

Provi is definitely a evil bastard, but other than her are there any other outright evil gods

Confirmed outright evil gods

[thick slate]

treason

[pliant ruin]

In fact

aren't

[indigo glade]

would you guys like to see my unfinished terrarian writing (how original)

[pliant ruin]

Provi and Otonilou

the only

[split mortar]

She wants to end all life ?

[thick slate]

i would so become a follower of providence

[pliant ruin]

gods with canon moralities?

[thick slate]

literally frenzied flame elden ring

[split mortar]

Frenzied flame wants to end suffering?

[thick slate]

even similar colour schemes

[thick slate]

they want to end everything

[indigo glade]

corruption gods and crimson gods

[thick slate]

including life

[indigo glade]

but they arent exactly

people

[pliant ruin]

Yeah.

Other than Provi and Otonilou i think every other god is either unknown or slime god

[thick slate]

amalgamation of god

[pliant ruin]

which is

morally questionable due to not having enough info to really tell

[split mortar]

Slime god is just neutral imo

[pliant ruin]

yeah i think that's more likely

but rn we don't really

know for sure

[thick slate]

i bet xeroc is wholesome

[split mortar]

Yeah

Same

[pliant ruin]

xeroc i think is probably leaning onto being a good guy

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc is cool I think

[split mortar]

I headcanon xeroc as good

[indigo glade]

why must the future forever haunt us

[dusk laurel]

My headcanon is that he resigned himself to protecting the world for yk

reasons

[pliant ruin]

I think Xeroc and Silva both being good guys is fun because it lets me paint the idea of them as a divorced couple

who is like constantly arguing but deep down are still besties

[indigo glade]

we need a ship name for them

[real silo]

HMS titanic?

[thick slate]

photosynthesis

[indigo glade]

what?

[dusk laurel]

Xilva

[pliant ruin]

LMAO

[indigo glade]

oh

[pliant ruin]

PHOTOSYNTHESIS

REAL

[indigo glade]

oh thats good

[dusk laurel]

WAIT

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[dusk laurel]

That's actually a good name

[thick slate]

his writing is fire

[real silo]

Ok what about tyrian and otonilou

Fish?

Jelly-fish

[thick slate]

FISH 🗣️

[indigo glade]

jellyfish

jelly because electricity

fish because fish

[split mortar]

I think he is busy protecting the world from outside threats like fovos, of which would mean they’re prob busy trying to find noxus

[indigo glade]

(ignore the fact that otonilou is already a jellyfish)

[real silo]

jelly times fish²

[split mortar]

Correct

[dusk laurel]

I have a ship name I think

Fried

[indigo glade]

what the fuck

[thick slate]

sushi

yummers

[real silo]

Seafood fries

[split mortar]

Tyrian may still live iirc

[indigo glade]

what the fuck!

[pliant ruin]

Tyrian is alive in the abyss trust

[split mortar]

Ah roommates with silva

[real silo]

Tyrian is the real reason anahita left abyss clearly

[thick slate]

always "which boss tastes the best" but never "which god tastes the best"

[dusk laurel]

[real silo]

coke no....

[thick slate]

ravager lowkey delicious

[indigo glade]

silva got a new abyss bestie

[real silo]

gonna have to fry you for bringing up boss taste again

[split mortar]

I propose

Slime god

[pliant ruin]

ravager probably is the type of guy to drop some sick bars

[real silo]

abysstie

[thick slate]

literally 1984

[real silo]

Life alloy

[dusk laurel]

Real

[thick slate]

erm actually he drops perenial, cryonic and scoria bars

[indigo glade]

you were supposed to destroy the boss taste discussions not join them

[pliant ruin]

ravager has two heads do you think there's a second guy in there

John

It's God of Sacrifices and John

wait

his redesign only has one head

nevermind

[real silo]

Erm ackshually he drops necronantic geodes post providence that drop life alloy

[thick slate]

yea

[real silo]

Get owned

[thick slate]

nerd

btw

[dusk laurel]

But you're woke

[real silo]

You're voke

[split mortar]

But has 50 bajillion skulls

[pliant ruin]

he is 50 bajillion johns now

1 god of sacrifices

50 johns

[dusk laurel]

Ravenous

[split mortar]

Lotta skulls

[thick slate]

man hes so cool

he might be my favourite boss post rework

[indigo glade]

but only one with lit up eyes

[dusk laurel]

Spider evolves into a gorilla

[indigo glade]

pokmon

[dusk laurel]

Very true

[thick slate]

i like his head is the top of the altar

[thick slate]

dark ground type

[real silo]

They would never readd ocram
The suspiciously ocram shaped ravager:

[thick slate]

lol

[dusk laurel]

Yummers

[split mortar]

Oh damn, post provi ocram real

[real silo]

Post provi ocean

New biome guys

[split mortar]

Fuck

[dusk laurel]

Holy shit

The ocean becomes interesting for once

[real silo]

Can't believe melon gun would leak this

[thick slate]

:3

[dusk laurel]

:3

[real silo]

:4

[thick slate]

sigma

[dusk laurel]

This is how long BCO will take

[dusk laurel]

334 days

[real silo]

Earlier than I expected!

[thick slate]

1 million days

[split mortar]

One Fargo month

[real silo]

Thirty fourth day of fargust

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Go, pixels

[dusk laurel]

Stop typing Silksong

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1294977749399900240/rwgewgr.gif

It’s this gif but the size of four fucking pixels

Not even like four pixels wide, four pixels total

[frank dune]

What the fuck is going on here

[thick slate]

not lore

as per usual

[split mortar]

Lore was happening

But being off topic happened

[frank dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1295162504137408552/rwgewgr.gif

[fading sun]

Cool

[untold oracle]

Fym by this

[pliant ruin]

stop

[untold oracle]

[hoary berry]

Yes, whose—because this planet is alive. It breathes and bleeds cosmic mana, and birthed from its core are grand beasts that span the stars. It thinks, generating thousands of millions of thoughts every instant, each of them stemming from the being at the centre of the world. It is this entity—this great progenitor of cosmic proportions—who lays the foundations for life and intelligence as the Eternal Night knows it.
snippet from something i'm writing

[scenic olive]

no way

World Soul Entry

[fading sun]

Im pretty sure I read the first lines somewhere

[hoary berry]

where?

[fading sun]

Idk

[hoary berry]

because i came up with them myself

so that's a crazy coincidence

[fading sun]

Maybe I'm just confusing it

Nah nah just

[scenic olive]

yeah

I also have deja vus about it

[hoary berry]

(although tbf a planet being alive isn't a super uncommon idea)

[fading sun]

I'm pretty sure I saw the "the planet is a alive" or smth really similar somewhere

Yeshhh

[hoary berry]

okay well that's five bloody words

of course you've seen them before

[fading sun]

Sry

I'm tryna find where I heard rhis

Oh ik

I rember

Ultrakill hell is sentient thing

[hoary berry]

i still need to get around to playing ultrakill

it's been on my radar for ages but i've never actually bought it

[fading sun]

Sry if I spoiled

[frozen zodiac]

i mean isnt the plot of a few final fantasy games also about the life force of the planet being manipulated

[sinful adder]

Mainly the 7th one I think

[fading sun]

Didn't watch

[untold oracle]

Noxus?

[frank dune]

a fatal mistake

[sinful adder]

The world soul, possibly opposite of noxus

Anyways, idea based on lore we got recently:

The dragon of death created the glowing mushroom biome

And/or all necromancy

Vertra I see you there

I remember what you said about an "unnatural forest" sprouting

And I made the connection to what the witch doctor says about mushrooms and to crabulon being a unique kind of undead

[cosmic zenith]

Necromancy is literally an improvised cheating of death

[sinful adder]

I mean, yes, but it is also a kind of embodiment of death

Or creates things that are

[pliant ruin]

well

naturally

next to something that kills everything around it

there'd be alot of corpses

and mushroosm

yknow

[sinful adder]

Yes, that also makes sense

Mushrooms are connected to death and are important

[pliant ruin]

maybe not magically but i can definitely see glowing mushroom originally being "created" by dragon of death

[sinful adder]

The glowing mushroom biome makes unique creatures that are all dead but also alive

[hoary berry]

ye

/the distortion as a whole

depending on how you view it (probably not obvious from just that snippet)

[sinful adder]

So anyways I wonder if my theory is right

Also, I wonder if the world soul is like the distortion and connects all things in a sort of hive mind

[swift wigeon]

I mean, fungi feed off of dead things. They can even grow on corpses IRL, it's not suprising that they would be associated with death

[sinful adder]

Yeah

I wonder if we'll ever get confirmation of whether this theory is right

[hoary berry]

i might do one on the world soul actually

about how/why it might have shattered

would probably be one of the most speculative things i could ever write about cal but
would also be fun

[hushed geyser]

Hit with a hammer going mach 10

[sinful adder]

You know, this entire description could describe the world soul

Terraria could have been like that once

[real silo]

Is it not the world soul

[hoary berry]

i mean
yeah, it could
but that was not at all the intention

i actually included the "Eternal Night" bit to try to make it clearer that i was talking about the distortion (because even if we don't know that the eternal night is related to the distortion, it's an idea that's been thrown around quite a lot here)

Who wears star-studded armour in lieu of a crust, and whose core is the vessel of power unimaginable.
probably would've been a bit clearer had you been provided with this line

since, at least in my mind, "star-studded armour" immediately links to godslayer stuff
and therefore cosmilite, and from there, the distortion

but yeah i could see parts of that being pretty easily interpreted as being about the world soul

[sinful adder]

Makes sense

[devout grotto]

Wait since when was this dropped?

[sinful adder]

What is the wattage of a sea prism, and an exo prism

[spring helm]

10 watts

[sinful adder]

It's a theory based on information we got from vetrasyl

[devout grotto]

Ooooh I see

[spring helm]

I thought the DoD made a forest, not a mushroom biome

[sinful adder]

Sounds reasonable actually, if a bit high. An old fashioned light bulb is 60 watts.

[sinful adder]

It was an "unnatural forest"

[spring helm]

I just picked 10 because that’s how much an LED uses lmao

[sinful adder]

Or something like that

Wattage is a measure of energy over time, so knowing such a thing is useful. I'd like to know the wattage of a sea prism shard/crystal/block

[pliant ruin]

Well

[spring helm]

Likely very little considering the sunken sea isn’t electrified

[pliant ruin]

THe glowing mushroom kind of is a forest

Maybe not of trees

But it's definitely got the general idea of a forest down

with the really big mushrooms

[spring helm]

Fair enough

Mushroom NPC is the child of DoD

[real silo]

Well cei specifically stated it was a verdant forest

verdant being green

I don't think glowing mushrooms are green

[pliant ruin]

oh it was verdant

then nevermind!

they are in fact not green!

[real silo]

I mean maybe they evolved from being green to being blue

But at that point why even bother with the verdant description..

[pliant ruin]

Yeh

[real silo]

If it was a forest of fungi it would be so close to my headcanon it's crazy

[devout grotto]

I wanna know how and why Shroomite became a thing eventually as well

[real silo]

truffle is a secret blacksmith

[untold oracle]

Are you secretly a writer lmao

[pliant ruin]

haha. mushroom bar :)

[real silo]

No

If I was proud of writing I'd post a lot more here

And evidently I don't have the orang role

[frank dune]

Hello everyone

[untold oracle]

That’s why secretly

[frank dune]

The spy among us

[pliant ruin]

i'm a writer i write things

[devout grotto]

Glowing Mushrooms as ingredients became more interesting to me now for some reason

[pliant ruin]

like this

fe fi fo fu i am gru (hits you with my laser beam

[untold oracle]

✍️🔥

[frank dune]

That was calamitous

[hushed geyser]

[dusk laurel]

Cheese

They should make you a dev for Cal

[indigo glade]

I am a writer.

Not a very good one, but I have written.

[hushed geyser]

The writer

[spring helm]

💥

[pliant ruin]

theoretically even if i had the chance to be one i wouldn't really take it

i'd prefer to stick to roy because i'll definitely have more liberty writing for a game than writing for a mod under a game's constraints

yes i know that was just a joke comment but i felt like saying this anyways

i know the pain writers go through i don't want to go through it.

[real silo]

True..

Our ideas were so similar I can't help but think it's not just a coincidence

[real silo]

I've tried to join some smaller projects before and I realized I'm absolutely fuckin awful at committing

It probably didn't help that most of the contributors spoke spanish only though

[sinful adder]

Some old languages have no distinction between green and blue

[split mortar]

[sinful adder]

Also, verdant could have been used to mean like... Lush

[hushed geyser]

I love 2 distinct colors being the same

[sinful adder]

People do that sometimes probably

[real silo]

Wouldn't cei have said lush instead

Idk

[sinful adder]

Color is an illusion

[hushed geyser]

Everything is an illusion

[real silo]

wrong I'm very real

[hushed geyser]

Wrong

[real silo]

You're wong

[hushed geyser]

I disagree therefore it's wrong

[real silo]

I disagree with your disagreement

[hushed geyser]

I am not hit marvel character Wong from Doctor Strange

[real silo]

That's because you're hit character benedict wong from real life

Who also plays as wong from hit marvel movie doctor strange

[hushed geyser]

Damn.....

I didn't know i was famous

[real silo]

I knew

[pliant ruin]

And even then i wouldn't call glowing mushroom lush exactly

[real silo]

Yea

[untold oracle]

Maybe it was highly concentrated at first but then it spread out and became more sparse

[spring helm]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17TnzUx9BjSsGewdYrzvT_ay1WPi0328tHAwAupMxk5U/edit

I got inspired my pHGoose’s “How do you kill a god”

Here’s Yharim getting his ass beat

[frozen zodiac]

yharim charging up his punch so dramatically reminded me of the ending to bowser's inside story

[untold oracle]

The bubble collapsed around a fist that seemed to carry the force of a whole universe behind it.
Damn that’s some crazy powerscaling

-# totally not a hyperbole

Also, poor Yharon… (again)

[cosmic zenith]

That's actually true
If you see the color red, it's because the "red" receptor in your retina was inhibited, not stimulated
In that sense, your brain discards the colors equivalent to the stimuli it receives and completely makes up the colors matching the absent stimuli

I definitely didn't learn about that today

[real silo]

Me when plants absorb red light and reflect green light which is why they look green

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[spring helm]

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[cosmic zenith]

Reality is a fractal lattice of increasing complexity, folding into itself to birth new infinity

[spring helm]

Alright you’ve lost me

[real silo]

Brain too stupid to understand world

better?

[spring helm]

Oh

Okay yeah I got it

[sleek halo]

Just understand it lol

it’s that shrimpl

[indigo glade]

Alchemists were just people doing chemistry before it was cool to do so.

[sleek halo]

true

[untold oracle]

I’m pretty sure draedon could become a successful alchemist

Since he probably can alter the atomic structure of elements

[indigo glade]

Biology is just chemistry working with physics to make things move by themselves.

[sleek halo]

That’s beyond getting his ass beat

brother died

[spring helm]

Nah he’ll live

This is the fight I glossed over for the fishing chapter

[untold oracle]

Mark has crazy diamond

[sleek halo]

Did he at least repair his armor

if not that’s fucked up

[brisk frigate]

The lawn chair position, the true meaning of life

[sleek halo]

i haven’t seen u in many moons…

[untold oracle]

Should I read for an exam I have tmr or write

[sleek halo]

Read for exam is the responsible thing

[real silo]

I am presently reading for my exam in two days

[brisk frigate]

True, simply enjoyed life

[real silo]

My answer is read

[sleek halo]

Yuk….

[brisk frigate]

YuH

[untold oracle]

True, I can surely write later

[sleek halo]

Nope not them

[brisk frigate]

Yummers, yuckers. Now yuhhers

[sleek halo]

Real

[dusk laurel]

Why

[sleek halo]

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

YuH

[dusk laurel]

YuH
Yharim under Hell

[sleek halo]

true

Trying to figure out

what Yharim would say about GoJ

I don’t rlly know what he’d feel like

[untold oracle]

Yhell

[sleek halo]

20-30ish yrs after the fact

[spring helm]

How hard was the fight

Would Yharim acknowledge their strength

[sleek halo]

Pushed Yharim to his absolute limit

[sleek halo]

(at the time)

More importantly

It made him question his own ideals and goals for a time

Before azafure was trolled

[sleek halo]

I mean yea

Likely

(Might put him trash talking DoG a bit in it, considering DoG lost and ran)

[spring helm]

My take:
Yharim would talk about how the GoJ was a stepping stone to his goal; a hurdle in not just strength but in ideals as well.

[sleek halo]

And Yharim never misses an opportunity to talk shit about DoG

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[spring helm]

“A mighty foe indeed, able to match even myself at the time. However, righteous judgement often faces strong opposition, and it is then that one shows true strength. Unlike the Nameless Running Serpent, I overcame the obstacle and grew stronger in turn.”

[sleek halo]

Something like that

I don’t think he’d ever admit that

A he almost lost

[spring helm]

He did with Braelor so

🤷

[sleek halo]

ok but braelor was also

not a god

[frozen zodiac]

unlike you batman i was born in the darkness moulded by it

[spring helm]

That reminds me, Vessel what does this mean

What happened with Bowser

[sleek halo]

I think

he’d never talk bad about GoJ

but never good

just neutral

[frozen zodiac]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxBS-Mb3cDqjx4k3i-5JhoVPAtemr4sSKV?si=5m5g0jtnR785qz7V

[proven rivet]

What aspects of the sunken sea lore are you expecting to be changed in SSO

[sleek halo]

literally everythjng

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

Actually really close to what I had in mind,

[sleek halo]

I think I might do

Yharim sweeps some details under the rug

And Draedon as Draedon does

unknowingly reveals them

Because why hide information

[frozen zodiac]

me when i dispell misinformation:

[sleek halo]

still funny to me that Draedon undermines so many of Yharim’s lies unintentionally

[spring helm]

“That guy sucked. Just like all the other gods I killed his ass no problem.”

“In [insert exact time and day] Yharim faced a foe named the God of Justice. It was a hard fought victory, one couldn’t tell which side would win for some time. I gathered valuable data from that fight.”

“Don’t fucking tell them that!!!!”

[sleek halo]

“I did NOT almost lose, I simply nearly failed to win”

[proven rivet]

I love how Draedon is just on the more objective side, rather than opinionated

[sleek halo]

I mean

he is an AI

and has 0 reason to lie to us

he literally tells us the reason he’s helping us

[spring helm]

I don’t think any will be changed outright, just expanded upon

[sleek halo]

He just wants to see how society will react to Yharim being killed

[spring helm]

Would they even find out

[sleek halo]

(Also likely will attempt to follow us to the Aerie)

[spring helm]

Yharim lives in the Aerie nobody’s seen him in like a year

[sleek halo]

I mean

I’m sure Draedon will spread the word

[spring helm]

What a snitch

[sleek halo]

Regardless if they believe him or not ppl will start to rebuild

[spring helm]

“Hey everybody, Yharim’s fucking dead!!!!”

[sleek halo]

Shrimply experimenting

It interests me he’s now interested

in society reactions

and what not

I think he wants to understand ppl more

[brisk frigate]

"OK but it would be funny if the god slayer was slain, right chat"

[sleek halo]

True

[spring helm]

Me watching the children cry in despair as the last of their food is taken from them (It’s an experiment)

[dusk laurel]

[sleek halo]

He would probably do that

[brisk frigate]

See how long a child could fast for, unwillingly

[sleek halo]

Let’s just hope Draedon doesn’t go down humanities route to understand

psychology

[dusk laurel]

Dear god

I hope not

[spring helm]

“Draedon, I’ve been feeling pretty bad recently. Any advice?”

“You want to have sexual intercourse with your mother.”

[sleek halo]

hundreds of eels…

[spring helm]

No no no

[dusk laurel]

To the pit

NOW

[spring helm]

Draedon could not find the male eels

Demands more

[sleek halo]

He just couldn’t

[spring helm]

What’s a

[sleek halo]

😭

[frank dune]

hello everynyan

[spring helm]

Oh mah gad

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-chat-team-fortress2-demoman-expiration-date-gif-21883506

[sleek halo]

I have an idea

For DoG fight I wanna make GoJ more

apathetic

the one side of him

[frank dune]

GoJ?

[untold oracle]

God of justice

[sleek halo]

For Yharim I want him to be more angry and emotional

[sleek halo]

thig. I’m wrting

[spring helm]

“YOU CANNOT FOOL ME WITH YOUR UNFEELING SO-CALLED FACTS, GOD! YOUR KIND HAS NO JUSTICE TO UPHOLD, THE SINS OF YOUR ASCENSION TAINT YOUR EVERY ACTION!!!!”

[frozen zodiac]

these 2 hologram texts interest me because why are they cutting off at certain parts?

[sleek halo]

old

likely

[spring helm]

Memory damage?

[sleek halo]

“Bro my village got nuked by an auric dragon”

[spring helm]

“Nuh uh they’re innocent”

Back and forth for 5 hours

[sleek halo]

real

But yeah Yharim is basically going into the fight

thinking “Not only am I gonna kcik this dudes ass, I’m gonna break what he believes”

[frank dune]

imagine evil yharim

[untold oracle]

Yeah that went splendidly

[sleek halo]

And the exact opposite happens

[spring helm]

No way

He’d kill people then

[untold oracle]

He’s evil???????

[sleek halo]

no he said

imagine

implying he isn’t

[untold oracle]

Ohhhh ok

[sleek halo]

but what if he was

that’d be fucked up

[untold oracle]

I was startled for a brief second there

[dusk laurel]

Yhevil

[frozen zodiac]

"about to fight this guy gonna post the fight right after"
"bruh im not posting that shit i got my ass beat"

[indigo glade]

The first one is probably cut off due to length. It is essentially just Draedon listing a very long list of side effects. For the writer's and reader's sake, not all of them are listed. The second one is obvious. The hologram is losing power, so sometimes it is cut off.

[sleek halo]

Draedon is the guy who posted it

that’s the real reason they split

not because of pbg, just cuz draedon posted him getting cooked

[frank dune]

pbg

[frozen zodiac]

peanut butter gandwhich

[sleek halo]

true

[untold oracle]

”…oh yeah here’s also the video of the fight I found from one of the harddrives found in the city, have a look.”

”YOU FUCKI-”

[frank dune]

pizza baked gun

: (

[spring helm]

Yharim comes up with a new anti-AI slur

[frozen zodiac]

or peanut butter and gelly if you say jelly like a psychopath

[sleek halo]

Gelly

[untold oracle]

No

[frozen zodiac]

no you don't I got jelly with a j on day one

[latent bolt]

"I peed on your wife, yharim. She's mine now"

[spring helm]

Eggman announcement but Yharim

[untold oracle]

”I have an important announcement, Draedon the Cosmic Engineer’s a bitch ass mf”

[frank dune]

what if gods killed yharims grandma

[frozen zodiac]

WHY IS THE TERRARIAN ON THE SAME LINE AS THE VILLAIN LI-

[latent bolt]

draedon did this roughly 5 days after getting kicked out for making the plaguebringer goliath

[frank dune]

proceeds to explode half of the moon

[spring helm]

Frees the Moon Lord

[untold oracle]

How you like that Xeroc? I pissed on the fucking moon!

[spring helm]

Oops

[frank dune]

the impending doom approaches

who would win

peak ml or yharim

i mean ml at his peak

[pliant ruin]

peak ml

by a massive landslide

peak ml is the one guy that could possibly beat xeroc

yharim is getting turned into a fine red mist

[untold oracle]

I remember we talked bout yharim and yharon vs. full power fovos

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/red-mist-kali-gebura-library-of-ruina-pm-gif-3082207638802716005

[pliant ruin]

FUCK

[untold oracle]

Yharim could pose a threat since he’s a lot smaller and quicker than a massive ass dragon

[frank dune]

: (

[spring helm]

Considering that Yharim isn’t that much stronger than Yharon, this would be an easier fight than what Fovos did 800 years ago

[pliant ruin]

no this ones good

[pliant ruin]

fovos on his way to lose to 1 guy and 1 dragon after killing like 500 dragons

fovos is curbstomping 😭

[frank dune]

only 2.5 ppl here know about project moon

[untold oracle]

Someone mentioned it would be like trying to swat a fly except the fly actually hurts you

[spring helm]

Fovos vs 1000 auric dragons back in their peak: Nah I’d win

Fovos vs 1 auric dragon and his friend: Wallahi I’m cooked

[frank dune]

that was calamitous

[split mortar]

Well, moonlord has the homing eyes and hexagons of eyes so I think yharim will get projectiled into oblivion

[frank dune]

ultimate deathray in question:

[untold oracle]

Yharim performing his final attack: ”We might not succeed in our Revengeance against you, but even with imminent Death, we won’t falter. Witness, my Calamity.”

[split mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778729281097564180/1152078823966376058/caption.gif

[frank dune]

why would he say that?

imagine full ass 30mins cutscenes instead of lore items

[split mortar]

Yharim brain blasting a animation sketch of why the gods are bad and the dragons hood into our cranium

[untold oracle]

Yharim actually shows us a slideshow from his laptop
”Man, can we like fight already this shit boring af”
”You will watch it!”

[frank dune]

bruh man never skippin cutscenes again

[real silo]

This is how he will beat fovos

Fill the giant cosmic titan's brain with information until it's stunned

Unlimited brainrot

[frank dune]

imagine if yhaim sends us a radio or smth

[untold oracle]

193 days?!?

[frank dune]

like codebreaker thing with draedon after defeating exos

[split mortar]

The devs are lying, yharim isn’t a tmelee he is a secret 6th class based on brainflbering your opponent

[frank dune]

yharim is a throwwer

shrimple

[split mortar]

-# ah rogue

[frank dune]

btw maybe yharim is mage

yharims crystal exists

did yharim made yharon to eat his gift?

so yharon will drop it?

[split mortar]

I do not know

[split mortar]

I doubt yharim would let yharon go if he knew they would garunteed die and he could stop it

[frank dune]

s you wanna say yharon came on his own?

[scenic olive]

Eating Yharon so his soul can be preserved

[frozen zodiac]

me blowing up the lunar god with my mind (i am infodumping about all my autism special interest lores)

[latent bolt]

yharim when he is finally released from the caldev mines:

[spring helm]

Draedon:

[split mortar]

Fovos not a god

[cosmic zenith]

SAME

[untold oracle]

Yaya

[frank dune]

Same yeee

[split mortar]

I saw what you deeted

Fuck

[untold oracle]

What is deeting

[dusk laurel]

Trueg

[frank dune]

Alright lets talk about lore

I am out of idea what to question so yall do it

[split mortar]

Uhhh

What powers do y’all think moonlord had or has

[sleek halo]

Teleportation clearly

Giant fuck you laser beams

Extreme durability

like

unimaginable durability

[frank dune]

Phantasmal energy

[sleek halo]

and moreso survivability

He was literally ripped

in half

and is living

His eyes get popped out

and they’re fine

[frank dune]

I think he can regenerate

[sleek halo]

I think if he could

he would’ve

after literal centuries

of being on the moon

and clearly he could do shit on the moon

[frank dune]

Idea

[sleek halo]

considering Draedon didn’t start the teleportation project

Until Fovos was slain

Ngl I still think Draedon would’ve liked to

capture and study ML

[frank dune]

Contaiment breach

[split mortar]

Couldn’t happen though so rip

[sleek halo]

Yea

[frozen zodiac]

i feel like he wouldnt actually be mad about it

[sleek halo]

Probably not

just an “oh well”

and moves on

[frank dune]

What if

Uh idk

[sleek halo]

dude imagine we didn’t stop fovos

[frozen zodiac]

steamhappy

[split mortar]

The fovos probe tongue does

[sleek halo]

I imagine 4 different ppl would appear

Draedon to capture

Yharon and Yharim to slaughter

and likely providence

[split mortar]

Moonlord litteraly can heal in the fight

[sleek halo]

well

that’s also from seemingly

taking your life stuff

[frank dune]

The fuck she doin here?

[real silo]

Maybe fovos needed life stuff to heal

And the moon didn't have any life

[sleek halo]

wel idk

[split mortar]

Dying

[sleek halo]

but like

i don’t see scal going for fovos

no reason

Yharim and Yharon obviously

Draedon probably

DoG probably

[split mortar]

Probably the migraine aura

Though yharim would be there

[frank dune]

Xeroc?

[frozen zodiac]

please let me take the corpse of this deity i will definitely not conduct experiments on it and attempt to reconstruct it as a tool on my side i will be very normal about taking this corpse

[sleek halo]

I could see it

[split mortar]

Moonlord isn’t a god

[sleek halo]

If anything

Draedon wouldn’t ask

He would just do

DoG and Yharim are currently in debt to him lol

DoG’s armor is entirely made by him

[frozen zodiac]

he yanks fovos with a long stick like the muppets taking someone offstage

[sleek halo]

and Yharim’s was upgraded by him

[split mortar]

I doubt yharim would let draedon actually take it though since fovos is prob the most or second most hated being by yharim

[sleek halo]

and Yharim knows not to provoke Draedon

(Tho they’re both wary of one another, and for good reason)

out of everyone on the planet

they’re the biggest threats to each ofher

[real silo]

yharim I swear I won't make fovi clones

[sleek halo]

excluding the terrarian

[split mortar]

What bosses do you think would have the biggest power gaps between them and the terrarian? I think weakened moonlord is prob on the higher end

[sleek halo]

Xeroc

[split mortar]

That would be no.1

[sleek halo]

Noxus

as No.2

[frozen zodiac]

wall of flesh?

[split mortar]

Draedon views us as relatively equal with yharim so I would put yharim on the lower end

[split mortar]

I can see them having a decent power gap but not much major imo

[real silo]

Desert scourge has a pretty big power gap between it and the terrarian

[fading sun]

king slime

[untold oracle]

SG could be decent?

[mighty zenith]

i think provg would be up there

[sleek halo]

I think DoG

has a pretty massive gap

[untold oracle]

Oh wait

How about ravager (post-prov version)

Since isn’t it like outrageously strong physically, even more so than GoS

[frank dune]

what if draedon can use power of his mind to control exos

[fading sun]

Gos?

[frank dune]

not like just summon

but control without remote and stuff

[fading sun]

Not exactly

[untold oracle]

God of sacrifices

[fading sun]

They likely have their own ai that only controls them in combat

Still completely under draedons control tho

[frank dune]

chat please wake up

this not how it ends nooooo

[split mortar]

Let chat be dead for a bit, forcing it may just cause brainrot which not many like

[untold oracle]

I wish providence had dialogue

Would be cool to see what kind of personality she has

Is she just an edgelord

[split mortar]

It makes sense for her to not though since she is prob locked tf in against you

[untold oracle]

Wrong..,.

I like when bosses talk to you

Would be cool if the guardians spoke too

[sleek halo]

I mean

Whose to say she can even speak in this form

at least normally

[split mortar]

That aswell

[untold oracle]

I mean she can do telepathy probably

[sleek halo]

mayhe

[frank dune]

mayhe

[split mortar]

Provi is a he now?

[proven rivet]

Providence cannot decide their gender

[frank dune]

provi is she

though you still wouldnt

https://tenor.com/view/mini-oso-luna-tabby-lunaistabby-gif-220644464987255023

[mighty zenith]

provitrans

profem guardians...

[frozen zodiac]

lgbt ally guardians
VERY fond of gay and trans people

[sleek halo]

true…

Yk something funny

DoG is probably less racist than Yharim

[frozen zodiac]

he's got that pikmin louie mindset
"i dont care who or what you are im just hungry as fuck man"

[sleek halo]

true

[devout grotto]

😭

[cold owl]

Anyone can help me with this tier list about how old each boss is? I think I got most of it correct, but I'm not sure about some like Lunatic Cultist, Dragonfolly, Duke Fishron. I'm counting Providence, ravager etc when they were mortals, although I'm not sure if I should count Ravager like that since it's technically just the body of what was.

[dusk laurel]

Rav is pretty recent

Revived god and all

[cold owl]

Ya. just wasnt sure if I should count it as the monster or the god that it once was.

[dusk laurel]

SG and provi are most likely early deific era or grey period

[cold owl]

Fair, it's probably closer to gray period

[mighty zenith]

yeah gods should be in deific imo

[cold owl]

I'm not really sure about Cultist since wasn't he entrusted by the dragons to keep ML sealed away, meaning he's been around probably for a long time.

[mighty zenith]

cultist is most likely just a normal human

[split mortar]

Isn’t there a century big grey period

[mighty zenith]

just a very skilled one

[mighty zenith]

might be
but like

deific era

idk it just makes more sense to me

[dusk laurel]

There was a grey period tho

[split mortar]

Yeah, the cult is much older but lunatic isn’t ancient

[cold owl]

Isn't the grey period when the dragons and gods fought, and the deific era when the gods essentially won?

[mighty zenith]

it could be either, i just think deific would be more appropriate

[cold owl]

I can make a tier between

[cold owl]

Should I put cultist there

[mighty zenith]

i think cultist should be during the crusade

i really doubt they specifically existed for so long

the cult has been there for a while though

[cold owl]

There was probably leaders before him

I'll keep him where he's at

[mighty zenith]

i would put DoG and storm weaver in unknown personally

their origin is just way too mysterious

[cold owl]

Well, we know DoG is for sure younger than Draconic because of the CV lore item

[mighty zenith]

that's fair

dragonfolly is a weird one since their tendency to reproduce they could have short lifespans

[cold owl]

This is the current tier list

I changed grey period to near grey period

It doesnt show in the image

[split mortar]

Moonlord I would say is either draconic or prehistoric or just prehistoric

[cold owl]

They were a tough one

[frank dune]

very powerful

[dusk laurel]

Infernum rot

[frank dune]

wdym

[cold owl]

Ya, forgot to move him there since the category is new

[mighty zenith]

sayer...

[frank dune]

like explode

just do it

i am tired

cant be any more mean

[dusk laurel]

Try taking a nap

[split mortar]

I would say deification era for cultist, I can imagine they’re older then yharim but not like mroe so permafrosts age

[frank dune]

: (

🚿

[deft vessel]

[frank dune]

🚿

[split mortar]

🚿

[dusk laurel]

He's going beast mode . . .

[mighty zenith]

your showers dont scare me

i can control water

and earth

and fire

and air

[cold owl]

Astrum deus is a really tough one since Draedon believes it MIGHT be a young Astrum Deus (if there's more than one)

[split mortar]

Garbo played touhou they can dodge the rain

[dusk laurel]

I played 2 Touhou games

The hardest ones

[split mortar]

Oh

[mighty zenith]

i beat two levels in touhou 7 does that count

[deft vessel]

I have played a grand total of 0

[dusk laurel]

Fun experience I must say

[split mortar]

How well can you dodge mutants desp phase

[proven rivet]

I'm pretty sure LevAna are both unknown due to how Anahita was likely created out of nothingness, aka being able to be created at anytime and due to Leviathan being summoned by her

[cold owl]

I'm counting that as mainly Anahita

[dusk laurel]

I beat UFO on Lunatic up to stage 6 and LoLK on hard up to like the extra stage

But that was years ago

I don't have the bones to do bullet hells anymore

[cold owl]

I think this is good thx for the help

[proven rivet]

The only implication of time we get from when LevAna were around at minimally is when Silva was either still alive or thrown into the abyss

[cold owl]

Leviathan is unknown but since Anahita is the water elemental, we know she was around since water was a thing on Terraria or around that

[frank dune]

why are you ridin cultist

[cold owl]

Anahita and Brimmy are the oldest by a lot

[split mortar]

Lunatic is the hardest difficulty on touhou

[split mortar]

Regrow your bones

[frank dune]

oh

[dusk laurel]

Sorry but uh

They were stolen by the Ghastly one

[deft vessel]

Eat milk

[frank dune]

i thought about lunatic with that mount

[manic coral]

11 and 15

[short brook]

Is there any lore connecting the Abyss to the Brimstone Crag?

[split mortar]

Azafure pollution traveled through abyss uo to sulphure sea hence why its acidic and abyss is not acidic due to a high amount of fish filtering out the pollution from the local water

Other then that idk

[fierce pagoda]

Wow i found out

That the rock DOES have a use

Other than it being placable

You can throw the rock into shimmer to create the boss rush monolith, it looks sick asf

[split mortar]

Is that just calvanities or bad efane

Fuck

Base game*

[short brook]

What if the Abyss's proximity to the Crag is why it is so drastically different from the rest of the Underworld?

[mortal osprey]

You can sell it for 1 copper

Money farm

[short brook]

Increasesed heat from pressure and all that.

[split mortar]

The crags is quite different cause the biggest and oldest city in the world was there then promptly destroyed by two living nuclear bombs fighting (scal and brim)

Though the abyss may have also had some effects for why it was chosen as a good spot for a city and also the pressure

[sinful adder]

Water dripping from the abyss fed the city, apparently

Though I wonder how they managed off of such a small amount of the stuff, and when water doesn't remain liquid there

[split mortar]

Vacuum suck the abyss so you get endless water from the rock

[high lynx]

wait aren't both EoC and BoC pre crusade? are you just grouping them there for convenience?

[rotund shore]

boc would be mid or post crusade

[high lynx]

but they were originally "a product of the folly of the gods"

and gods would cull them in equal messure and such

yharim just made them commonplace

[split mortar]

Yeah but the ones we fight are spawn of the god corpses

[spare pier]

^

Monsters like EoC and BoC existed before

Not them specifically

[high lynx]

oh ok

i had been assuming that they were a species of sorts

my bad

[sinful adder]

Idea: the abyss water thing worked because the underworld is full of steam and humans and plants in calamity can breathe steam for the water they need

[split mortar]

We can stand close to magma that is like 5K Celsius hot so I can see that being possible

[sinful adder]

I was about to say that

[spare pier]

What are we talking about?

Ok I have context

Anyways

Guys

Who's in the Abyss?

[split mortar]

Silva

[spring helm]

Silva gaming

Wonder what about her causes life to proliferate

[sleek halo]

i think it’s cuase she’s a good gardener

[split mortar]

But we don’t know how long she was in there the first time or when she got out and we do know she couldn’t have been put in there by yharim early enough for azafure

[spring helm]

So

Would it be cannibalism if you ate Silva

She’s the elemental of nature right

[split mortar]

No? She plant or something

[spring helm]

Honestly I assumed she had the DNA of all life

[split mortar]

She is a elemental and so belongs to no specific species

That’s prob more dna then there is silva

[sleek halo]

probably not

ngl I think the elemental came after

their element

they just seek to spread it

[split mortar]

Silva grew from single cell to multi cellular then?

[sleek halo]

What I think the elementals are

is clusters of mana coming into contact with an element

which is why I think Silva is the youngest

of the 5

also I kinda imagine nature is moreso referring to

greenery and what not

[split mortar]

Did ascending to god hood change her domain

[indigo glade]

No.

[spring helm]

It expanded her domain, life and nature

One could even call it

[sleek halo]

Yea

I assume she is still

the elemental of nature

who just happens to be the god of life

[spring helm]

If she was only the goddess of life she would have died to Yharim

[split mortar]

I never said she stopped being an elemental????

[sleek halo]

ngl

[spring helm]

[sleek halo]

I wonder what a brimmy with the auric soul of flame

would be like

probably not good for anyone

who isn’t her

i’d imagine she’d likely surpass scal

[split mortar]

If we go by scal sponge theory yeah she prob can easily

[sleek halo]

?

[spare pier]

Excuse me

The WHAT

[sleek halo]

I’m assuminy

based off what Draedon said

soaked up Brimmys magic like a sponge

[dusk laurel]

I thought that too

[split mortar]

Yeah that, absorbed brims powers hence why brim is so weak compared to litteraly anything scal can do like two years later

[sleek halo]

also if she does surpass scal in the scenario she uh

hets the domain of flame

she’d also be the second strongest god

[split mortar]

Considering brimmy may be stronger then xeroc during ascension

I honestly can see it being a tie in a few centuries

[sleek halo]

I don’t think that’d be the case

but with how offensive her abilities would be

I’d imagine she could rival/surpass Yharim

(The real question is what the effects would be cognitively

[split mortar]

Well, if it’s the theoretical brim as strong as scal but no skill, ascending perfectly with fire domain might be a tad overkill

[sleek halo]

Imo

The elementals are all

aware

sentient beings

nature being the smartest

well

most humanlike in inteligence

I have a headcanon that

[split mortar]

I can see why the elementals which are just one and not split liek cloud or sand would be smarter then the split ones

[spring helm]

I think the sand and cloud elementals are similar to the Brimmlings

[split mortar]

Pretty sure they are

[sinful adder]

Is Silva specifically the nature elemental? Or the Life elemental?

[cosmic zenith]

Nature

(Which is pretty close to Life anyways)

"Nature" specifically hints at her ties to the other Elements a lot more evidently than "Life" would

[sinful adder]

Interesting

[sleek halo]

Yea

[sinful adder]

Sounds like there is a lot of lore we don't know yet

[dusk laurel]

Mayhaps

[indigo glade]

Just a smidge.

[spring helm]

How deep is the abyss

[indigo glade]

Deep.

[split mortar]

Below 20km but deeper then anything natural on earth imo

[spring helm]

I’ll go with 15 then

[tall crest]

what's scal's fav cookie

[split mortar]

Any that she can bake and not burn

[indigo glade]

Simply summon a lore writer.

They can answer for you.

[split mortar]

Yeah just @ cei or reb or stip

(Prob best to not do that)

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[tall crest]

why do that when i could speculate with the chat

[indigo glade]

She likes cookies with only flour.

Is that a good enough answer?

[dusk laurel]

So just raw flour

[indigo glade]

Yes.