#lore-discussion
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i thought you liked some stuff not being directly tied to the main plot
Stop clinging onto something old just because of it being old
its not supposed to be accurate
yes
i do
but its not that theyre not tied to the main plot
is that they're Nothing
No shit Sherlock, but with how many times it gets retconned (one time) it lessens the chances even more
I liked the op part of old lore yet I prefer the new one
why are you so abrasive
idk
be normal
wotg as its own thing is better
No one is normal, I can try to be more average though
Anyways you said boss by boss?
wotg is actively trying to be its own thing and separate itself from calamity too
I’m downloading wrath of gods as we speak…
Lol
it's just balanced around it
Cool, keep stuff to yourself sometimes.
Is wotg still being worked on
cant wait for noxus to be replaced next wotg update
Yeah
I try-
Avatar looking peak
yess
So empty
(Replacement for Noxus)
Real
avatar of emptiness when manifestation of wholeness comes in (nameless deity
Would you like to hear about more lore or nah
im more invested in them finnaly removing the p2 transition attack
this is lore discussion though not addon talk 🥺
Yeah
Hell yesh
Let's discuss auric plantera now and how it can definitely fit into the lore for some reason fr!
wats ur favorite lore vanilla
Bro-
My lore
A god exists peacefully:
Yharim's honest reaction:
Maybe the real calamity lore was the mental instability we found along the way
mental fortitude… is fading?
Like cal lore for vanilla things of just vanilla lore that the terraria devs made
Also how is the player related to Yharim, or is there no connection
melon's not here to send the image
i meant directed at vannilin
Is yharim the one talking to us through the lore or is that different
NO
Yeah
He still is
How is the player related to him
Epic betrayals of history . . .
Not really related to him but the lore is spoken by him
no more..
The player is uhhh a farter real
I was thinking like-the player character was like somehow a descendant of Yharim or some kind-idk.. I thought Yharim was dead up to this point.
Yharim whispers to you because he's trying to manipulate you into becoming his sucessor
Oh
Nah hes just old
because he's well aware that he isn't gonna be able to complete his own mission in his lifetime
so he's choosing you to do it for him
I mean, he will be in like a decade if we don't face him
How has Calamitas lost to this hag
He wasn’t as old
calamitas didnt even fight him
Also she is a child
Why don’t they fight
probably too traumatized by him to fight him
The reason yharim talks to the player right away is a plot hole that's left in on purpose so that you can say whatever you want about your character
Before
I wanna see them brawl
Why would they
Calamitas, Yharim, take it up in the ring
she just cant
Yeah and you want old lore back so what
Rip Cal
both bc of trauma and also bc nobody knows where yharim is
Yharim is attuned to the power of Yharon, which gave him super strength, a slightly extended life-span and he's basically always in physical prime
;{
not only would she have a panic attack fi she even saw yharim but she literally can't
like
nobody knows how to find him
calamitas would lose to yharim despite having the raw power needed to beat him because yharim has over 100 years of training
U sure
It's canon
Crazy
Attunement goes crazy
To be fair Goozma my beloved
I mean, Calamitas does more damage then the actual GOD OF THE SUN I feel like planetary destruction to find him is an option or like THE ACTUAL SCOURGE OF THE UNIVERSE AND DEVOURER OF GODS
goozma mod is lovely but im glad its its own separate thing
.
Eh I mean new lore I think cal is like country level
like Calamitas-I don’t see how she’s like-struggling to find him
Maybe
Calamitas is now country level and the devourer of gods is a self granted name since he can consume the essence of gods once he kills them.
Bro…
No character in cal is above planetary
Really..?
_ _
Maybe Xeroc
crying
But we dont know
does he know
It's better than having everyone fight eachother being able to destroy the planet anytime
Old lore has been dead for over a year
lore writer said xerocs power was like incomprehensible
This is so depressing, why’s are they so weak and pathetic!
He better bring back the God meta
Goozma could technically be kinda cannon (slime god just stops holding back)
All slimes merged into one :3
Xeroc is as strong as someone can possibly get in calamity, but they aren't planetary.
^
i feel like he could take over a planet
me when i dont care about how strong a character is in media because it dosent matter and just read the media and enjoy it
I still can’t believe that, how is Calamitas country level, she’s stronger then d-dog and d-dog travels like so fast and like I can do the math, and yharon massive fireball is more then a city I’m positive
I think Xeroc is a bit more then Continental
whatever i dont like power scaling freak that
?
in the game you can kill them with a copper shortsword
technically you can kill literally anyone with a copper shortsword
weaker characters are more fun because anything stronger doesn't make sense. If so many people could destroy the world easily, the world would already be destroyed
ur falling apart because the fictional cahracters are not as strong as you wish for them to be
(it dosent matter
like
Around that ya
Atleast what I believe
Yep same here
i dont think any of the most critically acclaimed books of all time had Goku in them
They should be weaker in.. like in game, the feats aren’t matching with the Lore
I just wish he was around planetary
it seems like they are, but they kinda aren't really. Though maybe infernum makes them look stronger
Feats are kinda watered down compared to old lore
Someone who understands my struggles
the in game feats do match lore actually
I’m an infernum tryhard so maybe that’s why I’m crying
or are weaker
Lol same
There's a difference beetween going "oh i wish x thing" than "this thing SUCKS its not x thing im gonna CRY it SUCKS SO BAD because it dosent fit my very specific preferences that do not actually affect it meaningfully"
@heavy ermine
After I beat infernum we need a difficulty above it
Technically Xeroc could like probably kill everyone on the planet since he IS the strongest character and can canonically make clones of characters.
In the game, if you show me a character using the actual sun as an attack, and say their toddler level, I’m gonnna be mad
It is literally impossible for us to beat him and we canonically won't (unless you headcanon)
That was from a month ago
Someone @‘d me about it
And the Sun attack isn’t in cal
what character uses an actual sun as an attack
Its from WoTG
Isn't that nameless
lmao
ND
Exactly. "The sun" isn't an attack in cal.
Yeah

This guy is so incredibly annoying ill be fr
Providence-somewhere-somehow-
So there's no need for any character to be some sorta star-destroyer
Fym actual sun
this isn't happening in the game lol
ok please explain her relation to the sun
Oh boy

(providence has no connection to the sun in current lore)
She is more so just fire related
You did not have any reason to be as so obnoxiously abrasive as you where and are still being just because things dont match your very specific expectations
What about Devourer of Gods like tearing holes through reality-like really epically-Shit… that was infernum…
Anyways Cross a lore writer is here so ask her the questions
you want to know something crazy? There was someone with basically these exact same takes like a few months ago
and attitude
Who is the lore writer-
no.
My point when sayign that was like. Ok, if a character ius only ever shown to be able to like, destroy a city
Cei
There's not really a good reaosn for them to more more pwoerful than "they cna destroy a city"
I remember reading that and I think even vetrasyl got involved
Cei did you turn autocorrect off
Calamitas is city level because she destroyed a city (really hard) (by boiling it because it was under water)
Lol
having a character only ever be shown and stated to do things like destroy cities but then go "actually they could blow up the planet" feels cheap to me
I have no fucking idea what I’m talking about, I’m just coping I’m gonna keep it a stack with chu
so it's something i try to avoid

high ballers
Ok then get
when their character can blow up planets and shit
Tf
And powerful
infernum definitely does look very cool
That's your place
Me an Eternity Calamity player and Infernum enjoyer :/
Nah they're fine here
Ok but
They hate me they want me to leave
I mean they can admit then they don't have a point and didn't realize it at first
Why keep talking about how much you miss old lore and want fan made things to be cannon
So honestly that heightens my opinion of them more than anything
And then just keep dragging that
I don’t want fan made things to be canon anymore-
I just said “it would be cool”
Not like, that they should
Cause that’s hard
Why can't we have a normal discussion without cross going into "oh this sucks so bad x did y in old lore why does x do z in new lore this sucks"
Whar
What’s he talking about-
How about we take a chill pill here for a second
at least this guy learned and grew as a person and didn't keep doubling down
Yeah
I think we get the point old lore was kinda cool
that is nice
Lol
Fake my ass
anyways yeah there's lots of new lore and it is well written
LOL
honestly yeah
based
Just because it isn't in the game doesn't mean it's impossible
I agreem
Character development
incredibly based to be about to change your opinions
In real time
Awww no problem
Basically yharim was destined or just ppl wanted him to eat basically the last dragon's soul to become god king and stuff
He refused
Ppl threw him into lava with the egg of the dragon
Did they kill the dragons?
The dragon hatched
Ig
the gods killed all the dragons, to become gods
The dragons all died before
For the people to ascend to godhood
So he wanted to kill the gods
Yharim became stronger then gods without like any ascension?
To avenge the dragons
That’s incredibly based
Yeah
Saved yharim and told what happened (more or less normal ppl (not gods) killed dragons for their powers)
Attunement
Auric Attunement
it does that
With Yharon
What does Auric even mean
It's related to the Latin word for gold, Aurum
Golden, dragon stuff basically
Dragon ore
Lol
mystery gold magic
Yeah
Yep
We don’t have much other then funny dragon ore
it came from something called the World Soul, but we know basically nothing about what that even is, and the lore for it isn't in the game yet
However, Auric in this world is just used as smth related to the dragons in calamity.
So… Yharim so far from what I’m understanding is a “good” guy
No.
Auric soul - dragon soul kinda like the souls in game but just of a certain "domain" (fire air eating death whatever)
Yharim let's say uhhh
Killed a lot of people
Auric - an ore that uyhh idk how it works but if you touch it if explodes you or at least hits you with a lot of electricity
Draedon bar my beloved
he sees himself that way. Who's to say the dragons were good? And even if they were, he killed hundreds of millions of civilians
If you see it his way yes
Ignoring the war crimes
And the genocides….
even the worst people have reasons for doing the things they do. The new lore is written to reflect that
So-he didn’t just kill the gods he killed people too
Because he was mistreated by his gods that wanted him to consume the egg of the rebirthing dragon of rebirth, Yharon. And Yharon shared his biased yet understandable view point of the genocide of his kind. Yharim swore to seek justice against the gods, deeming all of them as guilty of genocide.
Yharim I remember your genocides
yeah
Yeah pretty much
those people were in nations that worshiped gods generally
Bro who does he think he is, Kratos?
or just opposed him
Yharim is a good guy kinda like batman except the violence and scale is 30 morbillion times bigger so it kinda drowns out any actual good he did
LOL
God of War 3 Kratos
And never changed his ways
Yeah
Sunk cost fallacy
He had child delete ocean
Alr killed most of the people around no point going oopsie daisy didn't mean that

They kept that, neat
Yep
Except ocean is like a sea that had people and was in the continent
At first, Yharim was purely focused on killing the gods. But, then it evolved to burning totems and the people that worshipped the gods and stuff. And when Yharim recruited the Devourer of Gods out of desperation, it used Yharim's anger to drive him to even worst acts.
Nuh uh
I guess?
no
They're not the same now
No
Oh no
yeah basically. Similar species.
They are 2 separate species
I mean they're related
related, not the same
Who escaped to the desert and became a predator
One can fly, doesn't seem fair.
I forgot where the lore is but I thought that was like directly addressed as the same line of species
the desert scourge used to hunt on beaches and now it hunts in the desert
Idk
One shoots toenails and coughs blood
I’m old idk im not
Yharim says a lot of biased and wrong shit in the lore items just saying
bah-
Eh just his opinion
Welp oof I guess
Real
On some of the stuff
Well
All the lore items you read, you need to take with a grain of salt cuz he's biased af.
He does say the weaver is dog but older
I thought that was a bit odd considering they have a lot of physical differences and live in entirely different seas
Isn’t it younger?
So i thought maybe something similar happened to the scourges
Idk
Isn't that getting changed
Stip or Reb said something abt it
Idk
No, nothing is being changed
So just closely related species
Really?
I thought it was the other way around
Draedon says so
Yeah draedon says that
Oh
Draedon says it is a maybe
^
I see
Hmmmm
Anyways talking with yall was fun :> but I gtg :<
Cya
Bai
Bai bai!
Anyways Cei I calculated Yharim update release date no one can stop me now
sometimes I look through this chat and realize how borked my knowledge of calamity is
(or just other general things)
Its going to release soon like really soon 40 years after Silksong releases
yeah
So never
its become one of my favorite stand in words.
Perhaps
Actually I wonder which will happen first
Europa Clipper probe (launched last week) arrives at jupiter (will happen in late 2030)
Yharim update
It landing on Jupiter
$30 on Jupiter
well, it will orbit jupiter and the ocean moon europa, but yeah
Fucking insane if we get a probe to Jupiter before yharim
Do we know if the calamity mod team will release a YouTube trailer for sunken sea overhaul? Considering they do it with every major update, I'm guessing they will.
When it does release imma finish him off with the Tyranny’s End 


Finish whom off
Yharim
You worded it weird
(but I swear every time I check this channel I realized I got something wrong about the lore and now im gonna have to run with it)
Oh

Well finish the fight off with it
Bold of you to assume we will be alive to see the update.
Nah trust
Whet it does release part
The recentest update discussed was sso not yharim so your message made it seem like you were referring to it instead of yharim update
Oh
place yer bets, what comes first. legit news about yharim, or silk song releasing. (legit news as in more than just details about him, I.E saying hes gonna be in BLANK update)
stuff like dat
News?
Silksong release
Sliksongs
40 years after silksong
silksong is never real
Silksong by a good while
WoTg Server agrees
What is this "silksong"
what is a "hollow Knight"?
This is the closest lore chat has come to being united under something
how fast do you think the mushrooms on crabby grows?
I think they grow decently fast
Ig
Mach 10
Nooooooo
Not crabulon
Crabulon is getting resprited
Is there a single boss that will survive the resprites
No one want to do that again
Yep
we mean cal clone or Scal?
ah
We did just get an scal respite tho
What the f-
Gauss nuke will protect them
What why
Really?
Yeah
I thought it was like 30
What 100 frames
idk like... 3?
OD, DS, Crab, SG
I dont know, im just guessing
Half-Life 3
OD?
Old Duke next update already?
Old Duke
OD is next update
It shows just how much older OD is to DF. The evolution crazy.
Old Duke is an og
OD is nefarious yeah
What
Uses his own species as servants
Literally me
It's crazy how we are already getting another DS resprite
Keeps them malnourished to keep them weak too
We just got the new one
Oh alr
Dev controversy
Sunken sea vibes
DS is from the part of the Ilmeran Sea where the underground desert currently is
It kinda just stayed

Schizophrenia

What if i fight Scal in the bottom of the Abyss
and im like fitted with underwater gears
would i be in a disadvantage
can she boil the water fast enough before i stopped her
If brimstone flames really are as hot as the sun, Cal making one in the abyss would probably be like a nuke going off due to the steam
Hello


Phack oph
I missed the chances
Isn’t that like the normal brimstone lava in the crags? I’m sure scals fire is much much hotter
Hello everyone
Haii
hai deltaw
Who discovered miracle matter?
Draedon discovered it

But we made the stabilised version
miracle matter
Yeah
Ye
ares use unstable miracle matter for blender iirc
id imagine Draedon discovering Miracle Matter then a second later we cut to a decimated laboratory from the explosion

I think it just kinda melted the ares prototype
Literal way?
the unstable slurry miracle matter was noticed by draedon during our fight with the exos
-# thought it was during prototyping
Sso might stand for super sigma overdrive...
No way
Whats sso ?
Sunken sea overhaul
The next update
Man I’m cooked
I’m starting to doubt the quality of my revised text 
I have so many overlapped tasks within the doc
Sulph sea overhaul
Sea Overhaul
Sea
Wheres second s?
ea
A
Or Super Sigma Overdrive like coke wanted
It's not SSO atp
it's SO
sea overhaul
it overhauls the sea(s)
unless sulph sea changes come in a later update in which case
add a extra S in there again
sports its in the game
Brimstone sea
Astral sea
Location you need to go through to get to brimcrags
Its filled with lava
Tons of sharks
sigma sea
_ _

🚿
Wha i just posted 1 gif 😭
Super sea overhaul
Super luigi overhaul
Die
So glorpous
Even a mod infected by glorp smh
hi
Hello
hii
Hello
no
seeker of glorpedge
no more glorp
seeker? barely know her
Finally
Plague seekers from alchemist flask ?
I have slept long enough
javier
not me being here without even having calamity
no
That’s fine
Npc
i want to download it but unfortunately mobile is severely inferior compared to pc/laptop
zark sovls
glorp souls
zamn bro
fair
^
most people here dont even play
Phone is indeed severely inferior to pc
lore discussion
there are no debate, the only good thing phone has is the portability
I play calamity
Garbo plays enough to think aureus is good
I am ig?
i play enough to actually know how the boss works
Steam deck having that aswell
dont spoil me though (please?0 im thinking of getting terraria/calamity on my laptop next month

Yeah
Oh alright, hope you enjoy it
🚿
Yeah Garbo take a wash
awesome
Its peak gaming
before that though, i heard calamity is not a singular mods, is that true?
you should probably avoid most channels then
people talk a lot about the final boss, etc
You could play it with other qol mods
like i have to download multiple mod to get the "full" calamity experience
nah
It has its music mod as a dependency, other then that anything else is optional
Theres addons n shit but ehh
^^
thats the full experience
Which one ?
Those are addons, not official
yeah
Yup
noxus and like nameless deity
Also if you install addons don’t get cal overhaul
Addons
i dont recommend stuff like that for your firsst playthrough
Wrath of the gods addon
you CAN use them but the mod is a complete experience by itself
Like only magic storage if you’re fine using it
but what im wondering is, are thse mod independent from calamity or do u require calamity to have them anyway
cal overhaul killed my grandma
like the superboss mod i just mentioned
you need calamity for them
because they are addons for the mod
but they are entirely optional
Wrath of the gods is balanced around cal endgame but doesn’t need it, idk about catalyst or hunt
what r the difference between addons and mod anyway?
Addons are a mod for a mod
ohh alright makes sense
Cause you add on the mod to another mod
no
Fuck no
absolutely not
i dont even know what it is so...
just avoid it
umm why?
it's a strangely popular mess of a mod
its another addons right?
A bad one
wdym?
Lemme guess it was soo bad ur grandma died?
no it pushed her down the stairs
once u download it, does it like.. also alter the original terraria?
See ?
ayo the pizza h
Calhaul even pished cokes grandma down the stairs
the fuck
it changes some vanilla content and bosses to work more with calamity
Cal overhaul is a badly made mod that is made much worse via theft
isnt tmodloader terraria?
its just modded terraria
Im p sure haul also changes vanilla mod weapons
yes but they're separate launchers
yes but you arent changing the original game
its like if you decided to download minecraft twice
two different things on steam, one modded, one not
anything that happens in tmod doesnt affect the base terraria
Tmod is a free launcher thing made to allow mods to be made easier to make
this yes
wait so is tmodloader work in a sense like addons or a different app altogether
different program
like if i want tmodloader i need to already have terraria right?
yes
ohh so tmod is official
yea
It’s also free
*if you have terraria
hmm thats kinda hard to understand..

so like.. does it run completely indepedently
ohh so basicly u get 2 games
Tmod stands for terraria mod loader
yea
Theyre two different app however i think launching tmodloader will also launch terraria because i have like 600 hours on terraria while i only played like 90
shush
that's what i meant
thats confusing
intentional
I have less hours on vanilla somehow even though tmod starts it up
i was asking if when u play tmod u also run terraria or not
so basicly its 2 app
terraria can run completely by itself
but using tmod will automaticly run terraria along with it
but with 2 independent saves
yes
Ye
is that right?
yes
hmm so... does that also mean if u run tmod without having any mod
that means u r basicly running og terraria?
Ye
pretty much
alright i understands now
there are changes to terraria in the code, but those shouldnt affect vanilla gameplay
why do they even need it seperated though...
cuz base terraria code dosent run mods
Hai cheese
because tmodloader is made by a seperate team that, until it was put on steam, had no affilation with terraria
hmmm...
tmodloader does
Hi chese
hii
I assume porting tmodloader code to base terraria would be really annoying and require alot of code rewriting
so theyj ust made them separate
w ait
this is lore chat
what the heck
it is yes
lore chat
does the mod in tmod connected through world creation? like the mod u use will only effect the world u r currently creating
One funny thing about tmod is that running it also runs terraria at the same time
yea
if you have cal when creating the world, there will be changes
So you get hours for both terraria and tmod at the same time
Yeah, if you enter another world the world gen of the mod won’t affect it
Lore
No what’s a Lore
Sorry lore machine broke

no lore
so basicly whenever u r making a new world thats when u get to choose what mod to use, and any new mod after the creation of the world wont effect it?
yea
gloopy
good to know
I love sg
to have modded world generation you need the mod prior to generating the world, since world generation is done as soon as you make a world
He has autism I think
He kinda dumb tho
If you install a new mod you will still get the items from the mod though
glime sod
is autism having no characterization
He hyperfixates on balancing
wait.. so it only effects mod that intervere with world gen?
Except you might also have morals
And if any worldgen happens at a stage of the game you haven’t last yet it will spawn some other things
draedon inventor of autism
Me personally i think autism is more like being old duke it makes you old
Yes.
prior to making a world, theres a menu for managing all the mods you have installed. there you can enable/disable whichever ones you want
he's a fighting game player
that sounds convinient
ok but jokes aside fr whats up with slime god
do you guys think
yharim is actually right
do you guys think he actually dgaf about statis
It's interesting seeing people interact with mods for the first time when they have no technical background
or do you think this is yharim being yharim
Imagine mods as like... Updates for the game you can turn on or off
Autistic machines
we have so little to go off for sg rn that i feel like this is the one god-related thing yharim might not be fully lying on lmao
Tysm yall for answering all my question, i would probably be asking alot more questions in the future
If you made a world in terraria 1.3, it wouldn't have the shimmer biome from terraria 1.4.4 or whatever
like it's
-worshipped by onyx kinsmen
-cares for balancing
well
"cares" is too much
That’s alright
-has a duty to uphold balance
we don't know if SG actually cares about the balance or not
it has a duty
which might or might not be of its own moral voilition
i'd argue it isn't.
What gave it that duty?
i might buy terraria on my laptop earlier than expected, but i would need to research more of the content that i can get
Sg gave it to himself
If you take a world from terraria 1.4.4 and put it in 1.3, the game will break because it doesn't know what shimmer is
Among other things
either SG dosen't care about balance and it's more like. a job
Just remember, don’t get calamity overhaul
or SG really, really cares about balance
also the fact that i havent even finished og terraria.. (legit never fought moonlord)
to the point it's willing to kill innocents if it means keeping the balance
This seems likely
If he really really cares about balance he wouldnt have gotten stuck in mommy queen slime
the last time i played was when mechanical boss were the final boss
Slime god hyper fixated on balance to the point outsiders see it as following a job
Oh wow
Bro what
That is a very long time
i finally got back on a fresh start now
OH, yeah even vanilla would be a lot
yea i already did alot of research
Even vanilla has like double or triple the content since then
The game is like 5x larger than it was back then
i always do a weeks worth of research before buying a game
Hey y'all
since i barely get any pocket money
The throwing class was added and then removed during the time you were away
Lore
sorry.. i didnt realize
Its ok
It’s fine
Sure what’s the lore on your mind
it's ok dw
probably #help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk
terraria in general uhh general talk ig?
drk
Cmt is the designated place but cmt is stinker
ill be going then
what the hell is up with slime god
no seriously what's up with it
i assume we'll get more lore on him once statis update drops, probably
and his rework too maybe
but right now we really have very little to go off
It fights its own domain (I think if it gave in and started absorbing everything it could become a lot stronger)
more than storm weaver or signus but still very little
You can talk here! Ignore the other people, this is the only good place 🙂
It’s also not very moderated or on topic most of the time
storm weaver is
- distortion guy that broke off distortion
- not the same guy as devourer
- thats it
signus is
- hey kid wanna make a DEAL
- homophobe
- thats it
oh and
- something something being of both worlds something something
faustian bargain!!!!
so true
real
im like the only mod in here
Rebecca comes now and then but that’s more so to drop lore then moderate
im tired and stuff so if i sound a bit unhinged thats why
They looked at the xeroc tax incident
shut up
true
its not like im moderating here
Explode.
uh skibidi
there's alot of characters in cal lore that we have like
nothing to go off
signus
storm weaver
slime god
profaned guardians too, tbh
interested in seeing them get more development
no taxes
i think we should take yharims word on all of these
bad
signus definitely prefers pizza over burger
You days are numbered
I made noxus tax now pay ir
No
shut up
can we talk about lore plz. thanks.
actually
not taxes.
hows the economy in calamity
Fucked
Did Alexey remove that or did they get smited
Idk
the former unfortunately
I did

