#lore-discussion

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dusk laurel
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Exotech

split mortar
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Prob exo related stuff

cobalt sand
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Minecraft diamonds ofc

livid echo
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Miracle matter probably

dusk laurel
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No

split mortar
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Draedon didn’t have miracle matter when making the armour

fierce pagoda
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Also are those his cheeks on the right

livid echo
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Wait hold on

split mortar
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He gets miracle matter if we make it

dusk laurel
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The player is the first person to make miracle matter

livid echo
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exo prisms are the infinite energy source right?

split mortar
dusk laurel
spring helm
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miracle matter first appeared when the exoprisms inside ares overloaded and melted some of it's insides

fierce pagoda
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Yeah his ass is probably bigger

spring helm
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or something like that

dusk laurel
split mortar
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Why are you looking for his ass

spring helm
fierce pagoda
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No i just thought it was his ass and had to confirm

cobalt sand
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probably for this reason

fierce pagoda
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Besides it is probably good looking smyways seeing as Yahrim trains all the time

split mortar
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Colgator agrees with prikki confirmed

fierce pagoda
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What is Prikkis opinion

cobalt sand
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this is the lore

frank dune
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Yharim has no teeth

split mortar
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Not in the fight way

dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
dusk laurel
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calamity-freak-discussion

cobalt sand
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calamitas irk

fierce pagoda
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Yharim doesnt seem like the healthiest partner to have

cobalt sand
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Irl*

pliant ruin
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Hi lore chat
Im on the bridge

split mortar
dusk laurel
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I'm sorry cheese

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Please don't look here

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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His personality is probably not fit for a relationship

pliant ruin
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Its ok im on the bridge

split mortar
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Yeah it ain’t

brave dew
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He's a dictator...

fierce pagoda
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Ive always liked Yharims Character

brave dew
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You know who else had a wife and was a dictator ?

cobalt sand
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No.

dusk laurel
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no.

pliant ruin
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The bridge

fierce pagoda
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I was hoping he would turn out to be handsome, but after i found out he was svarred from thr lava i lost hope

mighty zenith
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my MOM

dusk laurel
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WHAR

pliant ruin
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Im going to my aunts house

brave dew
pliant ruin
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Im on the bridge

dusk laurel
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That's good to hear

mighty zenith
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your aunt lives on the bridge

dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
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But ive seen recently attractive burn victims so i regained hope

pliant ruin
cobalt sand
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...

mighty zenith
dusk laurel
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_ _

brave dew
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Guys im just sayin a relationship with yharim is possible

pliant ruin
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Can you guys shutup plz talk about the bridge

brave dew
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What bridge

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Not yharim kissing

mighty zenith
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describe the bridge

fierce pagoda
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Alright whats up with the bridge

pliant ruin
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Its big

brave dew
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Is it pretty ?

mighty zenith
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how big

dusk laurel
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What is the bridge's social security number

livid echo
pliant ruin
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Over the sea

fierce pagoda
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Is Yharim there

pliant ruin
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Its made of cement

brave dew
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If yharim is here kiss yharim

mighty zenith
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is it made out of jotaro kujo

brave dew
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If yharim not here jump

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Omg jojo reference

cobalt sand
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........

dusk laurel
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Can the bridge connect people

fierce pagoda
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Why are you on a bridge

mighty zenith
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can the bridge repair my broken marriage

pliant ruin
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That might be the worst joke ever

spring helm
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
dusk laurel
brave dew
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Yeah you're right

dusk laurel
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Splendid

brave dew
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Idk which joke

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But you're right

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Yeah its making me want to kiss my gf

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Gonna go do that

dusk laurel
brave dew
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Is your gf yharim

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If yes kiss

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If not jump

spring helm
dusk laurel
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Choose one

pliant ruin
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Cats

cobalt sand
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bunnuy

dusk laurel
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Both of those are right

mighty zenith
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is the bridge an ally

fierce pagoda
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Bunnys taste better

pliant ruin
dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
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But ive never tasted cat so i cant really say

brave dew
cobalt sand
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is the bridge homophobic?

pliant ruin
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
fierce pagoda
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"How can i be homophobic? my botch is gay"

pliant ruin
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My bridge is gay

fierce pagoda
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This one is more reletable

mighty zenith
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and im goku

dusk laurel
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My drywall is gay i think

pliant ruin
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Im also gay

fierce pagoda
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"How can i be gay? My dad is homophobic"

mighty zenith
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im like 97% sure my fan is gay

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im gonna have to ask him

dusk laurel
split mortar
brave dew
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Oh

fierce pagoda
brave dew
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Sorry

pliant ruin
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The voices in my head aren't gay

dusk laurel
spring helm
dusk laurel
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I think that I am sane

spring helm
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im not even gay and some of them are

cobalt sand
pliant ruin
split mortar
spring helm
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fair enough

fierce pagoda
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Apparently im gay because i said that i would have relations with a boy if he was feminine enough

dusk laurel
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I think I am losing it.

fierce pagoda
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But i dont think people understand how feminine they would need to be

spring helm
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Well yeah by definition if you would have sex with someone of the same gender you’re gay

dusk laurel
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What is going on here anymore

spring helm
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Back to lore

pliant ruin
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Thats just preference its still gay

cloud ibex
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the only relation i need is with the grind

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💪

dusk laurel
mighty zenith
indigo glade
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hi

dusk laurel
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hiiii

cobalt sand
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its about drive its about power

dusk laurel
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:D

fierce pagoda
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Hellore

cloud ibex
spring helm
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The early hardmode ores only show up as you progressively beat the mech trio because Draedon is gatekeeping

indigo glade
# dusk laurel hiiii

did you know the amount of "i"s someone uses in "hi" indicates how much they like you?

fierce pagoda
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No its because of soul keeping

indigo glade
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anyways, h everyone

pliant ruin
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Hey did you guys see tge new roy teaser

spring helm
dusk laurel
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yea

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I saw it

cloud ibex
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no i did not

pliant ruin
indigo glade
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read it!!

cobalt sand
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h

fierce pagoda
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Think about it, everytime the world is blessed with a new ore it always has something to do with souls/god essences

mighty zenith
indigo glade
dusk laurel
mighty zenith
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but they are now neither

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and both

pliant ruin
fierce pagoda
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Cryo ore was always there

indigo glade
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cryogen is maybe just permafrost thinking ur cool

fierce pagoda
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It was hidden by permafroost trust

spring helm
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Permafrost stops hiding the ore after you free him

pliant ruin
dusk laurel
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Cryogen is the end of then world

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Trust me on this.

spring helm
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Hiiiiii cheese

cloud ibex
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cal fangame right

indigo glade
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yes

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anyways hello everyone i am tired right now

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for some reason

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i dont know why

dusk laurel
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Maybe lay down for a bit

indigo glade
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it isnt even that late

indigo glade
high lynx
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And perhaps sleep

dusk laurel
cobalt sand
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Too much knowledge sought

dusk laurel
indigo glade
high lynx
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Why not

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Just a nap

indigo glade
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no

cobalt sand
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12 hours.

fierce pagoda
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Aerlite= god essence, all harmode ores = souls released from Wof and mechs. Perennial= souls from plantera, Uelibloom = essence of Provi, Auric = soul from Yharon

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Ore = concetrated souls confirmed

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Sigma

indigo glade
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perennial is connected to silva

cloud ibex
fierce pagoda
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Silva is still connected to god essence

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Well st least i think that souls and ore are linked someway somehow

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Dont make me go phonk crashout mode

split mortar
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Isn’t aerialite dragon stuff

indigo glade
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also aerialite is draconic not god

fierce pagoda
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I was thinking of god essence since it gets enchanted after tier 2 evil boss

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Which are god essence

indigo glade
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theres also the fact that auric being auric souls means that yharim would be wearing the armour of dead dragons

fierce pagoda
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Thats kinds sigma

dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
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Phonk trollface even

indigo glade
fierce pagoda
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Well im not saying it IS auric souls

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Just that its connected to souls in general

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Like spawned ore in general is connected to souls in general

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Those who know:💀

dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
spring helm
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I thought aerialite got disenchanted after defeating evil boss 2

dusk laurel
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opposite

spring helm
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Huh

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Didn’t Vetrasyl make the stuff

split mortar
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Idk

fierce pagoda
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No i dont think he developed aerlite that was orobably fabsol

split mortar
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Don’t think it’s said

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Vetrasyl is the sky dragon of storms

fierce pagoda
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Yeah thats his name on discord right

split mortar
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A dev just using it in their name for whatever reason

spring helm
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No I’m taking about the dragon not stip

split mortar
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^

fierce pagoda
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I know i was just trolling a bit

dusk laurel
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Smh

spring helm
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Calamity lore writer stipulatevenus

fierce pagoda
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Phonk scary trollface style

spring helm
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Famously a dragon

dusk laurel
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It's Dauntless not Stip

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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^^^

fierce pagoda
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Why did you decide to attack me

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Mean

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Mean as hell

spring helm
dusk laurel
indigo glade
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because i hate what you try to disguise as "jokes"

fierce pagoda
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It wasnt a joke it was a troll

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Why are you being aggressive😢

split mortar
cold owl
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I know it doesn’t quite fit the lore for EoW, but wouldn’t it be interesting if the Eater of Worlds attacked the Terrarian for breaking the Shadow Orbs, because it's their eggs?

sinful adder
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That could work

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Even in current lore

cold owl
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What about the Brain then, would the hearts be weird twisted eggs that birth creepers they use during the fight, which would explain why they attack us?

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It's such a small aspect of the lore I doubt we would ever or need to learn what shadow orbs or crimson hearts are.

frank dune
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though looks like i am not hated anymore cuz i dont try to taste boses

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: D

cold owl
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gets hated on

sinful adder
trim edge
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what's the relationship between evil biomes and meteorites

spring helm
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are they reworking the bestiary of all vanilla bosses?

dusk laurel
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iirc 99% of them

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Like deerclops won't get one

spring helm
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ok yeah the non-canon ones are not gonna get reworks

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though i heard they might get some sort of indicator that they're non-canon

trim edge
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bestiary narrator breaking the fourth wall godoftroll

dusk laurel
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hognar _ _

spring helm
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How challenging would deafeating the pre-hardmode bosses be for a regular person

proven rivet
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Depends on equipment

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If you got like, nothing but clothes, you will die

sinful adder
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Do with that what you will

spring helm
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okay so they die in one hit

spring helm
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i think for early pre-hardmode a group of trained soldiers could reasonable defeat one

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evil bosses 2 onwards probably would require an entire platoon/army

cosmic zenith
fair pelican
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I know it's an irrelevant detail to the lore because it will never happen

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but if a dragon gives a soul to a human willingly

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does the soul of the human turned god still comes out messed up and distorted?

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like does the process gets a 'smoother' transition to the soul by being consensual?

spring helm
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do they know?

dusk laurel
calm patio
fair pelican
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like, if the human knows the ritual and the dragon gives their soul

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does the god soul still become an abomination mess?

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alright I think I'm being too vague so I'll try to be more specific

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if a god gets their dragon soul willingly, can they absorb a god soul themselves, or absorb an extra dragon soul?

cosmic zenith
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Fancy seeing you here, Spider

cosmic zenith
spring helm
cosmic zenith
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(It isn't known whether the Life Dragon was willing)

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Otonilou is almost identical, Tyrian changed little, Xeroc changed a good deal

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Providence and Slime God changed a lot

fair pelican
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Did xeroc change as much as the fan made interpretation of him?

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you know, the flying thing with many hands

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and on fire

dusk laurel
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Are you talking about Nameless Deity?

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Because that isn't even an interpretation of Xeroc

cosmic zenith
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^

fair pelican
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but nameless deity isn't xeroc wdym?

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Isn't that just old lore xeroc?

dusk laurel
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Nope

cosmic zenith
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This one?

dusk laurel
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It became its own thing

fair pelican
cosmic zenith
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It's a middle term between this and unchanged

fair pelican
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got it

swift wigeon
calm patio
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no

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total calamity one

spring helm
swift wigeon
calm patio
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no

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its a RP thing

swift wigeon
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Rp as in roleplay?

real silo
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Yes

swift wigeon
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I looked it up and it says BoC is a fucking elder god, so uh, that's more bullshit than HP-00 Hypnos

real silo
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Well yeah it clearly says it's not canon

spring helm
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Yeah total calamity wiki is people role playing

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Altraxia

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I am the bone of my sword

cosmic zenith
swift wigeon
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Still, could they not have come up with something better tham that? Yhorm is more realistic than that shit

real silo
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(I don't actually watch/play fate)

spring helm
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Fair enough

spring helm
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That’s a bit rude tbh

real silo
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Not their fault people keep thinking their stuff is official

swift wigeon
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Honestly, Yhorm would be a good boss fight for GFB

dusk laurel
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Why

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We have the lorde already

real silo
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It would not be

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Yharim isn't even in game yet

dusk laurel
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Yeah

swift wigeon
real silo
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A lot of things can be argued with why not

swift wigeon
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But... Yhorm is fun to say

real silo
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Why not add a 4th and 5th exo mech it'll be funny

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why not make the gravity random it'll be funny

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So on and so forth

swift wigeon
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Those aren't as iconic as Yhorm though

real silo
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If yhorm was iconic how come I've never heard of it until today

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Checkmate liberals

real silo
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Destroyed with facts and logic

dusk laurel
swift wigeon
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I'm not even the person that started calling it Yhorm

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The name had already been bestowed upon it when I got here

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I'm just spreading the inescapable truth that Yhorm is out there

dusk laurel
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I think that i'd rather have a random aerealite book become a boss than that

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At least it would give me cool lore

manic coral
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what about an aerialite broom

dusk laurel
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That's actually an awesome concept

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
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You turn the Tailwind Tessen into a broom

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And it becomes a boss

swift wigeon
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Torch god 2.0

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The book god

cosmic zenith
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Maybe someone would've invented it if the sky civilization hadn't collapsed

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
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Humans

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Harpies didn't come around until later

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And they are unrelated

swift wigeon
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Hmmm. But maybe they got turned into Harpies?

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Oh

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Well, I mean, something had to have happened at some point. Either someone put a curse on a bunch of people or humans somehow started breeding with birds

cosmic zenith
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Not sure why you assume Harpies were human in origin

swift wigeon
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They have human faces

cosmic zenith
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Other creatures have human-like expressions - Ilmerians, Demons, Lihzahrds

swift wigeon
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Yeah, but they don't have the exact facial structure of a human, nor do they have hair on the top of their head - a human trait

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No other species has hair specifically on the top of the head without just being covered in fur

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Plus the Bestiary describes them as demi human women

dusk laurel
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It is getting a new bestiary entry in SSO

spring helm
cosmic zenith
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Their hair is blue, so there's something inhuman about them, and their overall body is as inhuman as Lihzahrds
Other races can have almost identical facial structures (like Goblins), some Ilmerians, arguably Lihzahrds
Their Bestiary is being rewritten, yeah

spring helm
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Yippee

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So are they sapient or closer to wild animals

cosmic zenith
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Nymphs and Dwarves are the closest races to humans in appearance

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Where they come from and how sapient they are will be answered in SSO

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spring helm
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😡

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I’m not mad but I am mad

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I wanna know

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Wait
Vortex of Shadows

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Wonder what that could mean

swift wigeon
spring helm
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He straight up says he’s a dwarf

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
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Yeah, I think vanilla implies it as an actual race

cosmic zenith
swift wigeon
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Usually Dwarves are like really tiny, so I had just assumed he was a normal dude with Dwarfism. The more you know I guess.

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Like Gnomes

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Gnomes in Terraria are weird

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Very strange species that isn't very prominent

cosmic zenith
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But anyways
The only currently ingame (canon) information about the sky civilization is:

  • The Sky Islands aren't a natural formation, instead being upheaved somehow
  • Sunskaters were considered a good omen to the sky civilization
  • Storm Weaver now feasts upon its remnants
  • Aerialite has something to do with draconic essence
swift wigeon
# cosmic zenith But anyways The only currently ingame (canon) information about the sky civiliza...

Alright, time to craft my theory: The sky islands, along with the planetoids, were upheaved during the battle against Fovos. The weird space time distortion fuckery caused by an interdimensional being such as Fovos is what allows them to float. The Aerialite ore contains small remnants of the auric souls of dragons who died during the battle, although much of the higher concentrations have likely been transported to the distortion somehow (Not sure if storm weaver works like DoG, I know they are different species, but if he can transfer that energy to Noxus, that's probably where the higher concentrations of auric essense went). If I had to guess, the Harpies were a "holy" civilization created by the gods, who saw sunskaters as a good omen due to their resemblance to the dragons. For that same reason, they probably fell out of the gods' favor after learning too much about what happened and got smited, leaving little behind

dusk laurel
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Chrysadia predates Fovos' invasion iirc

swift wigeon
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Tf is Chrysadia

real silo
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The planetoids are older than everything

dusk laurel
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Name of the sky civ

real silo
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Draedon says this

cosmic zenith
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Note that the Planetoids are confirmed by Draedon as natural geological formations

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
real silo
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Chrysadia was the first civilization fovos hit

cosmic zenith
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He doesn't mention it, he mentions that the planetoids are older

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And likely natural

real silo
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Only a passing mention though iirc

swift wigeon
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I feel like the Harpy theory has to be correct, considering that we know they were created after the Fovos incident, and that they weren't formed naturally

real silo
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What harpy theory

cosmic zenith
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You don't know they were created after the Fovos incident

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You know they came around after

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Not necessarily being created then

swift wigeon
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Hmmm

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They aren't native to the Earth then

real silo
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huh?

dusk laurel
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Whar

swift wigeon
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Unless "came around" means became more prevelant, then Harpies aren't from this planet

real silo
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Well this statement is actually true because the planet isn't Earth XD

cosmic zenith
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Yeah lol

dusk laurel
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The planet is Terraria

cosmic zenith
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You have quite the bold theories

swift wigeon
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I find it odd that they would sprout up out of nowhere, so maybe Fovos ripped a hole in spacetime and they came through?

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
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This is strange theory crafting I must say

real silo
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Distortion creatures all seem explicitly non human

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
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Terraria is the planet

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
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Known as "the Heartlands" from dev statements

real silo
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You're saying the distortion created a wormhole to another planet and that's how harpies came here?

dusk laurel
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What do you expect

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
real silo
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Fovos distortion blah same thing

swift wigeon
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I'm saying that Fovos, being an interdimensional being or otherwordly being of some sort, could have brought harpies through one of the rifts he created. We've seen that the rituals involving him can summon pillars from other planets that clearly aren't related to the distortion

dusk laurel
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That isn't stated

swift wigeon
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There are also the martians, which may not be related to Fovos, but prove that other civilizations exist out there

dusk laurel
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We just know that it is a really strong space squid looking guy

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That invaded and beat the living crap out of some birds

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
dusk laurel
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I'm talking abt the inter-dimensional being part

dusk laurel
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Fovos is ML

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ML is Fovos

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Remains imply that it died

swift wigeon
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That's literally what I just said

dusk laurel
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Which it did not die

swift wigeon
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No, remains imply that it is all that remains of a once ultrapowerful being

real silo
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semantics semantics

swift wigeon
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It is a fraction of its former self, therefore it is all that remains of its former self

real silo
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It's not even said how fovos appeared on the planet

cosmic zenith
real silo
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Did he teleport? Did he just fall out of the sky? Did he appear from a rift?

swift wigeon
real silo
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Well yeah

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That means he's not necessarily interdimensional

dusk laurel
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Deus is not from Terraria

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and it isn't interdimensional

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
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He could be either from another planet or another dimension

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Deus is interplanetary. DoG is interdimensional

real silo
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now why would he bring harpies with him

swift wigeon
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Not on purpose

real silo
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harpies going into mystery holes and being transported to another world

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Just like isekai!

swift wigeon
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He was powerful enough to beat thousands of dragons for a good amount of time before being sealed away. I'm sure he accidentally created some rifts when attacking or when he arrived

dusk laurel
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That is an assumption

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We do not know of its powers

real silo
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This assumes that he uses rifts to attack

swift wigeon
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And? I said it was a theory

dusk laurel
real silo
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It's an outlandish assumption of course people will try to debunk it

swift wigeon
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I never claimed that any of it had any grounds to be true. I'm just basing stuff off of what we know

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
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DoG rifts are super unstable

swift wigeon
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Also, Moon Lord technically appears through a rift when you fight him

real silo
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No he just appears

dusk laurel
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?

real silo
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We don't know how

swift wigeon
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He doesn't just teleport - the entire sky changes to darkness

swift wigeon
real silo
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That's not what a rift is

dusk laurel
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It is unknown how he gets to you

real silo
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Is night time a rift

dusk laurel
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All we know is that it was on the moon

real silo
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Is an eclipse a rift

dusk laurel
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And then attacks you

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
real silo
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Signus can tp but he doesn't turn the sky dark

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
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And you'd assume more powerful beings can create more stable rifts

swift wigeon
real silo
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CV is a literal rift and it doesn't turn the sky dark

cosmic zenith
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Like, in an extreme example, Ceaseless Void

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
real silo
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You're a stable one

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Does scal use a rift then

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What about cal clone

dusk laurel
#

Smh Yharon uses rifts

swift wigeon
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I'm not saying all rifts do that. But unstable ones do. Moonlord has a fraction of his former power, so the sky change would make sense

real silo
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Rift doesn't sound like a real word now

dusk laurel
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I can't believe this

real silo
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Signus rifts are unstable too

swift wigeon
# dusk laurel Smh Yharon uses rifts

I also never said that rifts are the only reason that the sky can change color. In Yharon's case, it's clearly the heat that is tinting the screen. The entire background doesn't just change to black, or some exotic color, and gravity doesn't get all wonky

real silo
#

Bestiary entry for cosmic mine

sinful adder
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A rift could make the sky dark like that if the rift was too big to see the edge of

swift wigeon
sinful adder
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Some parts of calamity lore seem a lot like the recent Kirby game lore

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Forgotten land

dusk laurel
#

I can't believe that exos make rifts

real silo
#

I'm pretty sure the sky is only black during death mode dog

swift wigeon
real silo
#

rev has purple and blue skies

swift wigeon
real silo
#

you are

swift wigeon
#

ML has pitch black background

sinful adder
#

Black background does not mean rift

swift wigeon
#

It's like you are in between dimensions. Some of the structures from Terraria are there, but everything else is gone

sinful adder
#

What do you think it means?

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Why is that not just dark magic fog or something?

sinful adder
#

I mean, it may well not be, but I don't see why it has to be a rift or dimension linking thing

swift wigeon
# sinful adder What do you think it means?

If the sky turned black in the middle of the day, and all of the houses in the background just dissapeared, and there was a giant flash of blue light with a giant space squid appearing, would that be normal to you?

cosmic zenith
swift wigeon
sinful adder
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Or at least, it wouldn't have to

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

It invaded i'm pretty sure

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I don't think that its priority was survival

swift wigeon
sinful adder
swift wigeon
stark basalt
#

Did somebody say fovos?

spring helm
sinful adder
#

It means "yes, this"

sinful adder
real silo
#

If it's unstable how does it last long enough for some random birds to go through them

dusk laurel
real silo
#

God discord

swift wigeon
#

Yeah, the dragons lost a lot of casualties. But they won

dusk laurel
#

But yet it didn't die

sinful adder
#

The dragons were unable to kill it

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I suspect it got weaker over time after being sealed

cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
sinful adder
swift wigeon
real silo
#

A lot of things aren't out of the question

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Doesn't mean they are the truth

sinful adder
#

Of course it's not out of the question, but it's also like saying "this thing is really strong so it should have this arbitrary power"

cosmic zenith
#

The questions are

  • Why wouldn't he use enemies right off the bat?
  • Where would he send the Dragons to?
swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

And yeah, ultimately it's just theorizing

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

If he did use enemies right off the bat, he wouldn't need to keep using rifts, tho

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Just at the start to summon all the enemies

swift wigeon
#

Right, but he has to sustain them to keep summoning enemies

cosmic zenith
#

How many enemies do you think he has

swift wigeon
#

If he stops to focus on fighting then... it leaves room for error. They could collapse or become unstable and bring in other creatures like the Harpies

sinful adder
#

This seems unnecessary and convoluted

cosmic zenith
#

If he was powerful enough to win against several Dragons and had a gigantic army, he would have won the war

swift wigeon
sinful adder
#

Like saying "Superman is strong so he could teleport minions in a fight"

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It does not make sense

swift wigeon
#

Compared to the dragons anyways

sinful adder
#

That makes even less sense

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Like. Why

swift wigeon
#

They'd be more of a distraction

real silo
#

If they were weak that'd be a waste of time

cosmic zenith
#

Then why spend your powers bringing them if they don't pose a legitimate threat

swift wigeon
#

If you let them amass then they become an issue

real silo
#

Well judging by how he still lost

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The plan definitely didn't work

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Dragons probably divided the tasks

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But also this is a really convoluted way of explaining how harpies appeared

swift wigeon
# real silo Well judging by how he still lost

Clearly the plan failed if that was indeed the case, yeah. The dragons were likely stronger and more numerous than he predicted, but what else was he supposed to do at that point? Stop summoning them? Then he's even more cooked, because all of the dragons are entirely focused on him. The division of forces would have at least been what stopped them from fully killing him though

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

Why didn't he just like

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Leave then

cosmic zenith
#

Probably not all the Dragons

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After all, they didn't know he was coming

swift wigeon
# dusk laurel Leave then

Idk, probably had a big ego or something. If he thought he was the strongest being in the universe, then he would be overconfident

real silo
#

I don't think he'd rely on fodder if he had a big ego

dusk laurel
#

If he was smart enough to use enemies as tools of distraction, then it is likely that he would know when to leave if he knew he was losing

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

Who was to say that ML thought like a person

swift wigeon
#

Me clueless

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It's my theory, I get to decide his personality

dusk laurel
#

Luckily for you, we will know the entire answer in the coming months next year

swift wigeon
#

I have a few months to make a theory about everything and then get proven wrong about all of it when the update comes out

dusk laurel
#

Yep

#

ML and Harpy bestiary entries

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This will be what is in the ML entry

swift wigeon
#

If I'm somehow correct about the Harpy theory, Fabsol should give up ownership to me

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Clearly that would be a sign that I know what's best for this mod. More Harpy lore. More Harpy enemy varients. A Harpy class.

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The possibilities of things that can be done but shouldn't be done are endless

cosmic zenith
#

I just realized I posted a snippet of the Harpy entry here

dusk laurel
#

THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS?!?!?!?

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The cropped image of that bestiary entry

cosmic zenith
#

You should be more specific

swift wigeon
#

Thanks for saying that AFTER the discussion that mentioned Harpy 2 million times, digging through the chat logs is gonna be a nightmare...

cosmic zenith
#

The Harpy snippet very clearly has "Harpy" written on it

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The cropped image without identification isn't the Harpy entry, but it's still an entry I wrote, obviously

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I can't share other people's development work without permission

dusk laurel
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This is what you're talking about

cosmic zenith
#

I shared:

  • A snippet of the Harpy entry
  • A snippet of the Wyvern entry
  • A snippet of a mysterious entry
  • The full "Gilded Axolotl" entry for the new Sunken Sea
cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
#

They defend what

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I wonder

cosmic zenith
#

It's pretty basic, just a continuation of the vanilla entry

dusk laurel
#

So they are probably animalistic

cosmic zenith
#

Not necessarily

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

I said they weren't originally from Chrysadia

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Which this entry makes clear

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I just noticed the entry doesn't specify how sapient they are

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But I imagine them as fairly sapient, in a tribal state

dusk laurel
#

Okay, that makes sense

cosmic zenith
#

Oh, and I also revealed Vetrasyl's previous design more recently

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While I cook up what will be the final design

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Honestly, I think you guys should try to guess the mysterious entry
It's not that hard tbh

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Comparing it to the vanilla version

dusk laurel
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Dragon of Storms

swift wigeon
#

Where is that mentioned?

dusk laurel
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Not ingame yet

cosmic zenith
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(This is currently not canon, but implied in canon)
The Dragon of Storms, whom Otonilou absorbed to ascend

swift wigeon
#

I see

spring helm
swift wigeon
#

Are they going to be important?

cosmic zenith
#

Will probably be mentioned in SSO

dusk laurel
#

Bone serpent perhaps?

cosmic zenith
#

Nope

#

Bone Serpent entry is way cooler

tall crest
#

is calamitas supposed to have grey or black (as in #000, not african american) skin? someone is trying to tell me she looks black, but her sprite honestly gives her red skin imo, and her plush is grey

spring helm
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“Man, it is hot as hell in this fucking hot ass Chrysadia.

IS THAT THE GRIM REAPER?!??!!!?”

dusk laurel
#

The redness is from her magic

tall crest
#

the damn shading throwing me off smh..

cosmic zenith
#

This one, Altraxia

cosmic zenith
spring helm
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So it’s a God’s fault

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Yharim was right

cosmic zenith
#

?

swift wigeon
tall crest
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#YharimTruthers

real silo
#

That sounds like the the

tall crest
real silo
#

The weapon enemies from underground corruption/crimson/hallow

dusk laurel
#

Chaos elemental?

real silo
#

I forgot their names

cosmic zenith
real silo
#

The crimson axe corrupt hammer and hallowed sword

cosmic zenith
#

Just analyze the phrasing to nail things down

swift wigeon
tall crest
#

it's not that big of a deal

swift wigeon
#

Now that I think about it though... where do you think each race originates from in Terraria? I wonder what the different cultures of the other continents are

dusk laurel
#

I was gonna say pigron but it's not on the list of the new bestiary entries

real silo
#

cryptic artifacts=supposedly an object
corrupted by divine =either profaned or evil biomes
caves=underground (probably underground evils)
hostile=evil

swift wigeon
real silo
#

so my guess is the three weapon enemies

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

I already gave you another tip - we try to keep some elements similar to the vanilla entry
So comparing the mystery entry with vanilla entries should clarify things

tall crest
dusk laurel
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They are descendents of the frost dragon

tall crest
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frankly i figured terraria was some kinda pangea continent and nothing else exists on this world

real silo
cosmic zenith
#

Nah, too small for that

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

Do you want me to confirm or deny that

spring helm
#

Stip

#

The answer will always be yes

cosmic zenith
#

It's none of those

spring helm
#

Okay

#

To the next theory!

swift wigeon
#

What entry are we theorizing?

dusk laurel
#

It was just linked minutes ago

tall crest
# swift wigeon Yeah, but I mean like in terms of traditions. I think it's really cool when a ga...

oh i dont disagree but i do think it's worth considering if there's even other continents on this world. you could easily just have different cultures within terraria itself - which would make sense, because the ways of living between these drastic biomes is different. hell even within a biome, people will go about it radically different.

(though i suppose you could say something about the gods linking together people in the same biome if we wanted less complex shit)

#

"yeah everyone in the jungle lives the same because uhhhhhhhh idk silva united them" something like that

real silo
#

Completely different

tall crest
#

when, realistically speaking, there's probably like minimum of a dozen different groups within each biome

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not that it matters since yharim killed 99% of the fucking population trollage

dusk laurel
#

Desert spirit?

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Is that it

tall crest
#

the current terraria culture is probably homogenous simply because there's not enough people to have differences. everyone's gathered 'round under the terrarian.

swift wigeon
#

Granite Golem?

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

It is

cosmic zenith
#

Yes, it is Desert Spirit

dusk laurel
#

I saw sands of time

cosmic zenith
#

Naturally, I didn't include the best part of the entry

dusk laurel
#

And thought that was too stupid of a connection, so i ignored it at first

swift wigeon
#

Can you throw us another snippet?

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Of a random entry

cosmic zenith
#

Let me see, I wrote very few entries for the Vanilla Bestiary rewrite

real silo
tall crest
real silo
#

My ass was too busy looking for the mimic entry 💔

tall crest
#

"terraria" in this case is what im referring to the continent as

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i dont think we have a canon name for it

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

We happen to play on the most devastated of the continents

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Where the Crusade began and whatnot

cosmic zenith
#

Alright, so the only other Vanilla entries I wrote are The Guide and Bone Serpent, both of which I'll leave for SSO

tall crest
#

THE GUIDE

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🔥

cosmic zenith
#

So Sunken Sea entries it is

tall crest
#

i wanna see how cal explains him and the wall of flesh.

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unironic im so hyped for vanilla bestiary rewrites

swift wigeon
#

Same

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Huge lore implications

tall crest
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i know programming takes time and i dont want to make anyone feel rushed, but im a lore fan so im also just sitting at my computer like bongocat

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when the dialogue rewrites drop im gonna be hitting everyone up nonstop

swift wigeon
#

I think Vetrasyl is pulling up the bestiary entry for a dead eel or something

tall crest
#

it will also be very funny when my fanfic immediately becomes inaccurate, because i have my own headcanons that ive had to put in since we dont have this lore atm clueless

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

Everyone, say a number between 1 and 47, and one Sunken Sea mob you'd like the see the entry of

spring helm
tall crest
#

SLUGBUN

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SLUGBUN

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SLUGBUN

#

SLUGBUN

dusk laurel
#

36, Sunken Scourge

tall crest
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im not gonna keep yelling bc i dont want to spam but PLEASE

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

Slugbun has been stated to be

spring helm
#

13, Lazarus Lampfish

dusk laurel
#

The most boring of all of them

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iirc

swift wigeon
tall crest
#

just have to attach a disclaimer about that if i ever publish it anywhere but the depths of my private discord server

spring helm
#

I made the elementals way stronger in mine because I thought it would be fun

sinful adder
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7, Kelpie Seadragon

tall crest
#

they're so baby

dusk laurel
#

I know but

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I like lore better

tall crest
#

slugbun lore is lore still 🥺

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
tall crest
#

listen im sliding $20 under the table for this /j

dusk laurel
#

That could be used for the pbg tier of the patreon for 1 month

tall crest
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and it's worth it

cosmic zenith
#

So, the options are

  • 4 - [unknown]
  • 7 - [unknown]
  • 13 - [unknown]
  • 20 - Slugbun
  • 31 - Kelpie Seadragon
  • 37 - Sunken Scourge
  • 38 - Lazarus Lampfish
raven terrace
dusk laurel
#

37

cosmic zenith
#

Do you guys want me to spin the wheel, or choose one?

swift wigeon
#

37

tall crest
#

spin the wheel. it's most fair.

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
#

I swear to Xeroc

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If it is 20

tall crest
raven terrace
#

Whats happening rn?

cosmic zenith
#

I'm not gonna give you guys the one you ask the most for, to be clear
It's not how it works

tall crest
#

you arent a majority just because there's 2 of you

swift wigeon
swift wigeon
#

You can't just speak for everybody else

cosmic zenith
#

Btw, to have a little bit of fun, I won't tell you guys who the entry belongs to

tall crest
cosmic zenith
#

Have fun guessing

#

Spin the wheel it is

tall crest
#

i love guessing

real silo
#

4

#

I may have been late

cosmic zenith
#

Alright, adding 4

#

Did you mention a mob?

swift wigeon
# real silo 4

That's not even one of the options. It's 7, 13, 20, 31, 37, or 38

dusk laurel
#

It's between 1-47

real silo
#

ueh uh scavneger

dusk laurel
#

It counts

cosmic zenith
real silo
#

Also that's the first time I've seen le axolotl

swift wigeon
#

Scavenger is a crab tho

cosmic zenith
#

Spun the wheel

dusk laurel
#

Scavengers are funny

cosmic zenith
#

Quite coincidental....

dusk laurel
#

Piglin bartering

real silo
#

I love them they're so silly

swift wigeon
#

I swear if it was slugbun

dusk laurel
#

Who knows

#

Only Stip does

swift wigeon
#

We'll know

real silo
#

God knows

swift wigeon
#

We're getting the full entry I believe with just the name blurred out

dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
#

Hmm

#

The entry kinda spoils the creature

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

I'm questioning whether I should reveal it

real silo
#

Capital G

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

Let's see whether you can guess it from the end alone
If you can, I'll share the whole entry

swift wigeon
#

Aight, bet

dusk laurel
#

Yippee

swift wigeon
#

Surely the 5 of us can figure it out

cosmic zenith
swift wigeon
#

Scavenger

dusk laurel
#

Yeah

cosmic zenith
#

Yeah lol

dusk laurel
#

That's too obvious

cosmic zenith
#

Yipeee

swift wigeon
#

Lmao that was easy

real silo
#

My last minute pick got chosen

cosmic zenith
real silo
#

Thank you God 🙏

cosmic zenith
real silo
#

Unfortunately discord is not loading the fucking images

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
#

Nope

dusk laurel
#

That's good to know

cosmic zenith
#

That's another mob

dusk laurel
#

Crab jr

cosmic zenith
#

Who hasn't been revealed yet

swift wigeon
#

Scourge

cosmic zenith
#

Actually, Triangle and I have revealed its name

#

Hermititan

swift wigeon
#

Oh, like unrevealed unrevealed

dusk laurel
#

Ye

cosmic zenith
#

Which is ironic, because Crabulon's original name was Mycelial Titan

swift wigeon
#

Mermititan sounds like a crab

dusk laurel
#

I remember that conversation

swift wigeon
#

Is it a crab?

dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
#

Of course it is a crab

real silo
#

Hermititan

#

Because hermit crab

dusk laurel
#

Hermititan is an unfungled crabulon

real silo
#

Titan

#

ulonless crabulon

swift wigeon
tall crest
real silo
#

This implies crabbe is a hermit crab

dusk laurel
#

Timeless shores too

swift wigeon
#

Is Crabulon getting a resprite anytime soon?

real silo
#

Yet crabbue doesn't look like one...

cosmic zenith
#

(Smaller, unfungled crabulon)
Firstly, because Crabulon is all bloated, secondly because only the smallest individuals of their species were able to retreat to the Sunken Sea

#

Crabulon will hopefully get a resprite in SSO

swift wigeon
#

Yay

cosmic zenith
#

Triangle is cooking it

real silo
#

Fair

swift wigeon
#

Mushroom crab!

real silo
#

Is it 100% done or

swift wigeon
cosmic zenith
#

Nope

dusk laurel
#

iirc triangle hasn't started it

cosmic zenith
#

It's quite coincidental you guys got Scavenger

dusk laurel
#

Since most of their stuff is public

cosmic zenith
#

A Scavenger spoiler was posted today
Which is why I wasn't particularly fussed about revealing the entry

tall crest
#

triangle has insanely good sprites so tbh im hyped if theyre doing crab

cosmic zenith
#

Also hi Cei

dusk laurel
#

Acid Rain sprites . . .

manic coral
#

hi :D

real silo
#

Hei

tall crest
#

hi

real silo
#

Such silly

tall crest
swift wigeon
manic coral
#

scavangers are goofy little guys i love them

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i was tryign to think of a bad joke to make about them but i couldnt

#

i shall return to onyx lab log writing

tall crest
#

speaking of sprites, i do wonder if the DS sprite will be modified at all. it got a lot of flak. a lot of it was pretty dumb ("why is he blue now :(" have u seen AS recently?) but some of it was pretty fair

dusk laurel
#

It will be modified

tall crest
#

i know DoG got an update after the big reveal

dusk laurel
#

Maybe

#

It depends if Tobias will do it before SSO drops

tall crest
#

they (idk pronouns) seemed pretty upset about the reception, so if they dont, i cant blame them

dusk laurel
#

Yeah

#

But we can't really assume too much

#

Since they are also helping with the NT resprite

#

and Polter

swift wigeon
tall crest
#

it is so goddamn annoying how people will celebrity-ify anyone 😭 random spriter on terraria calamity is not lady gaga with a PR team who filters everything you say

dusk laurel
tall crest
#

they read all that stuff

dusk laurel
manic coral
# manic coral i shall return to onyx lab log writing

something something draedon's first lab something something excavator mk. II something something an actual explaination of early hardmode ores something something soul mech blueprints something something a rough timeframe of when the sulpherous sea became radioactive

cosmic zenith
tall crest
#

im chewing on this thank you

manic coral
swift wigeon
#

Why did I misread that last line as "when the Sulphurous Sea became racist" lmao

cosmic zenith
#

This has been an eventful weekend to say the least, but my next lore project (aside from helping with character designs) will probably be miscellaneous Amidias topics

real silo
#

More draedong lore

real silo
#

Yay

swift wigeon
dusk laurel
hot valve
#

Oh Cei

#

Did you ever get a birthday

#

For the February thing you were doing

swift wigeon
#

What

manic coral
#

no i never got a ping

dusk laurel
#

Oh yeah

#

That

swift wigeon
#

Did you ever get a birthday?

manic coral
#

so i never checked back

swift wigeon
#

Wtf does that mean

manic coral
#

there's a reason i specifically requested to get pinged becuase i immedaitly went to do other stuff

#

like sleep

real silo
#

ok

#

@manic coral February 17

#

there you go!

manic coral
high lynx
#

I have a birthday every year. I also stole somebody’s birthday so now i age twice as quickly and they dont age

swift wigeon
#

Huh

manic coral
#

page 2 of the onyx lab log has been dated

real silo
#

Fuck yeah

dusk laurel
#

That's what it was for

manic coral
#

i like using people's birthdays for the exact dates

high lynx
#

Mine is very close to being very unfortunate

manic coral
#

so i figured i'd ask here

spring helm
#

Dang

#

Altraxia is now canon

real silo
#

It's not my birthday but it is someone important to me

#

mine is march 30

spring helm
swift wigeon
high lynx
#

Mine is… September tenth. I know somebody born one day later

swift wigeon
#

"What day is the meeting?"
"Oh its on my second cousin twice removed Fred's birthday"

real silo
#

you see every day is someone's birthday

#

there is no "march" or "nth day"

#

every day is a unique day

#

every day is someone's special day

#

tomorrow could be mine or it could be yours

high lynx
#

What if somebody was born on leap day or whatever

swift wigeon