lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Wa

[brave dew]

hello cei

[split mortar]

Also hi cei

[manic coral]

I'm the one who wrote it

Several years ago

[split mortar]

Oh

[spring helm]

fuck i wrote a segment for this but i hit the charachter limit

[split mortar]

Then send two beeg texts

[manic coral]

The best lore document that exists ever though is The Paleblood Hunt

[spring helm]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SDWfuSt1C-ikyRKFoUPQ5PkCRbcCkRvUyEJITnfZSq4/edit?usp=sharing

google doc time

very short

just the beginning of the fight

[manic coral]

Just get taller

[spring helm]

or a potential version of it

[brave dew]

I absolutely loved the part where the text said "Xeroc"

[spring helm]

IM AVERAGE HEIGHT IM AVERAGE HEIGHT IM AVERA-

Cei do other fishrons live in the sulphurous sea

[manic coral]

Not really

[spring helm]

is it because old duke is a dick

[manic coral]

Fishrons are fairly territorial

[spring helm]

oh ok fair enough

[split mortar]

Xeroc forcing mark to start at the beggining basically

[dusk laurel]

Didn't OD basically kill or enslave all of the other fishrons in the sulphurous sea who were a threat

[split mortar]

iirc ye

[dusk laurel]

I mean his new design is literally made to look nefarious

[cosmic zenith]

Markiplier vs. Xeroc real

[sleek halo]

I forget

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah since I don't believe that tech in Terraria is mainly medieval, it won't really take forever

[sleek halo]

aren’t they going to be tied to mr Mammoth

dragon

[dusk laurel]

Frost (Mega Mammoth) Dragon is the fishron and pigron ancestor

[devout grotto]

Like idt it would be too farfetched that they'd use some sort of plane (specifically something closer to a solo plane rather than an airplane) to go to certain places

[sleek halo]

I see

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[sleek halo]

I assume OD would be his oldest child

or one ofnthem

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, OD is from the first generation

[sleek halo]

Asshole of a kid

[dusk laurel]

So many firsts in Calamity

[sleek halo]

probably stole the others toys

[dusk laurel]

OD is a menace

[devout grotto]

😭

[sleek halo]

Tho Frost doesn’t typically indicate someone being… nice

[cosmic zenith]

It's moreso that the first ines have a lot of power (so they survive) and prominence

[deft vessel]

Who was OD?

[devout grotto]

Old Duke

[deft vessel]

Ah yes

[dusk laurel]

A dragon

A fishron

[cosmic zenith]

Wdym, the Dragon was obviously very chill

[deft vessel]

Grandpa

[sleek halo]

so true

I like how frost is like

either they’re cold

or they’re chill

[split mortar]

The frost dragon is a very cool guy

[dusk laurel]

[deft vessel]

Couldnt they also be cool?

[sleek halo]

true

but you can be cool and an asshat

[split mortar]

Being an asshat ain’t cool

[sleek halo]

Would be interesting for another dragon to be confirmed of being

kind of a dick

maybe not their own kind

but just like in general

OD definitely doesn’t give 2 shits about his own kind but he’s also not an auric dragon

I kinda imagine both OD and Jared care for and feel closer to actual auric dragons, especially their ancestors

considering OD is a first generation Fishron and Jared is literally the first Eidolon iirc

I do wonder what dragon is the ancestor to the Eidolons

I imagine some strong ocean one

[spring helm]

Zeratros

[dusk laurel]

[sleek halo]

ehh

That feels wrong

I feel like Zeratros having descendants would be strange

[split mortar]

Dragon of water

[dusk laurel]

Dragon of Evasion

they hid in the abyss

[split mortar]

Especially ones without primordial light powers probably

[sleek halo]

Probably something like this

A dragon that would no doubt be high up

And have ties with water or the oceans

[split mortar]

Anahita on their way to being weaker then a lot of fucking water creatures

[sleek halo]

I mean tbf

They don’t need to be stronger

Most would likely be unable to compete with her in the water

nor kill her

[split mortar]

Duke fishron
Jared
Old duke

[sleek halo]

She would never encounter jared tbf

[split mortar]

She lived in the abyss until yharims crusade

[sleek halo]

And I doubt she visits the sulfurous sea

[sleek halo]

I don’t think it says that exactly

[spring helm]

Because the wyverns definitely inherited Vetrasyl’s storm powers

[split mortar]

Anahita left the abyss once Silvas corpse started spreading their essence or what

[spring helm]

Yeah

[split mortar]

So she had a chance to meet both Jared and old duke

[spring helm]

Idk if it was during the first or second time though

[sleek halo]

^

[spring helm]

Either way

Mogged by a corpse

[sleek halo]

She likely met Jared

[spring helm]

Couldn’t be me

Man

[sleek halo]

But Old Duke doesn’t seem to really

care

[split mortar]

Yharim wouldn’t have known about the first one I’m pretty sure

[dusk laurel]

Blud got nuked

[frozen zodiac]

i love Jared's piano they play before attempting to brutally murder me

[sleek halo]

Yharim is privy to a lot

He knew of Draedon

At least the tales

Because it was military history

[split mortar]

He knew of the myths which I doubt is a high bar

[sleek halo]

Maybe Anahita

being forced out

was a known thing

She is an Elemental

She also would likely be very upset

[split mortar]

Fair

[spring helm]

piss off mermaid
entire ocean fucking attacks

[frozen zodiac]

"Sailors told each other day and night to not attempt to brave the waters when storms approached, as they signaled a bout of rage from the spirit that controls the tides. Only one sailor has been known to come back alive after witnessing the rise of a gigantic creature that warned them to not disturb the master of the waves in times of darkness."

"Though me crew and I may have travelled the 7 seas for countless months, even we knew not to disrespect the ocean spirit's domain."

[split mortar]

Pisses off red cyclops
all of the earths mantle attacks

[spring helm]

Off to revive Silva using the Heart of the Elements

Backfires because the elementals hate each other and she permanently dies

[proven rivet]

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

[untold oracle]

[spring helm]

I’ll get around to writing this once I finish the rest of the elemental chapters

[frank dune]

can this things for rogue droped by lunar enemies be connected to astral?

meld conducts

i mean look to craft stuff with em you need that powder from astral enemies

so that should make sence

[spring helm]

They’re both related to space so I suppose that tracks

[split mortar]

[frank dune]

Calamitas is a femboy?

[split mortar]

What

[frank dune]

Oh hello melon

[split mortar]

Explain thyself

[frank dune]

I was just jokin

Tryin to revive chat

[dusk laurel]

No.

[frank dune]

Hello vanillin

[split mortar]

Hello vnillin

[frank dune]

Hello melon

[split mortar]

Hello alexey

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-oso-luna-tabby-lunaistabby-gif-220644464987255023

[dusk laurel]

Hello lore discussion

[frank dune]

Should i change pfp from glorp to smth else

[dusk laurel]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Yes, taxes

Of the xeroc kind

[dusk laurel]

[frank dune]

Alright done

[split mortar]

Yay

[frank dune]

What about noxus taxes

[split mortar]

Distortion is a tax haven iirc

It tax free

[frank dune]

Btw

Goozma was noxus?

[sinful adder]

The idea of Noxus as a character/thing in the lore evolved from the idea of goozma

[frank dune]

What exactly it was

I need to know that

Even if this info is useless

[dusk laurel]

It isn't new lore so I haven't seeked it out

All I know is that Noxus eventually replaced Goozma as a character

[sinful adder]

I don't remember all the details, but...

goozma was like slime god but a fusion of all the slimes

and it was the strongest thing in existience besides xeroc, which was completely all powerful

[visual kiln]

who was first among them

[sinful adder]

then that idea was replaced with noxus, the egg of the last dark god, hidden somewhere where xeroc couldn't kill it

[cosmic zenith]

I'm not gonna tell you that :p

[tall delta]

also noxus in old lore was created by moon lord and cthulhu

[cosmic zenith]

Pregnant Moon Lord real

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

😨

[sinful adder]

it would be sort of poetic if yharon was both the first and last auric dragon

maybe yharon was the one who shattered the world soul

[visual kiln]

who's 4th

and 5th

and 6th

[split mortar]

@ pHGoose

[dusk laurel]

Yharon was one of the original 3

That's all we know of his origin

[cosmic zenith]

We don't really have to think about who's 4th and so on

[split mortar]

4th is Zeratros Imo

[cosmic zenith]

We do know who was 1st, 2nd and 3rd though

[visual kiln]

why is zeratros so powerful

[split mortar]

Cause the sun

I would be surprised if the unconstested power of the fucking sun wasn’t powerful

[frank dune]

Well that was quite worthless

Though

Rhanks for info

[dusk laurel]

[frank dune]

I mean thats all?

[split mortar]

The egg is why there’s boulder noxus iirc

[frank dune]

Prikki is noxus

[split mortar]

Though idfk how all slimes fused slowly turned into dark god egg

[frank dune]

Reptilians lay eggs

Si prikki is noxus

[dusk laurel]

Fish lay eggs

[frank dune]

We need to kill him

[split mortar]

Nah prikki is another moonlord

[dusk laurel]

Frogs lay eggs

Mammals technically have eggs, they just don't lay then or smth idfk

[frank dune]

Whta if noxus is dragon

[dusk laurel]

No.

[frank dune]

|=|

[split mortar]

Noxus isn’t of our dimension

Maybe an auric soul from a different world soul but not a dragon

[dusk laurel]

(please ignore that mihaii concept art that was posted like a week ago because there's no way that's official and was probably made for the funsies)

[tall delta]

those who know:💀

[split mortar]

The wha

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-gif-19235352

[dusk laurel]

I will show it

[split mortar]

Eel pit

[frank dune]

Whats that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1295159345251618866/gloob.gif

[dusk laurel]

This thang

[split mortar]

Oh what the

[dusk laurel]

Noxus from WotG in the corner

[split mortar]

I swear that’s older then wotg

[dusk laurel]

It is

iirc

Like goomba or smth

[indigo glade]

Noxus Egg.

Technically was meant for Goozma, but all Goozma stuff was turned into Noxus stuff, too.

It is still in the files of Calamity Mod.

[dusk laurel]

YuH

[split mortar]

Why do we get purified gel when we don’t kill slime god

[indigo glade]

It falls off.

[dusk laurel]

It shedded its shell idk

[cosmic zenith]

It shat itself, clearly

[frank dune]

[dusk laurel]

It was so scared

[indigo glade]

Why.

[dusk laurel]

It ran away in a scurry

[cosmic zenith]

It saw my brain

(Rotten)

[indigo glade]

No.

I mean.

Why would you ever say that?

[dusk laurel]

Foretext of Shat'os

[split mortar]

Ok hivemind

[cosmic zenith]

Because my brain is rotten

[split mortar]

Did you get hit by hivemind by any chance

[cosmic zenith]

Funny you mention Hive Mind, the Hive Mind minions are gonna get Bestiary entries in the SSO
I made them, and they're pretty cool

[dusk laurel]

Yay

[split mortar]

Yay

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1294977749399900240/rwgewgr.gif

[frank dune]

And ppl call me crazy for skinning yharim 3 times

Hivemind minions?

[dusk laurel]

That's not normal

Skinning people isn't normal

[indigo glade]

Dark Heart and Dank Creeper.

[frank dune]

I am not doin that anymore

Infernum moment

[split mortar]

Those exist already, like the poop hearts and the weird dark core things

[dusk laurel]

Dank creepers

[cosmic zenith]

Actually, it's Hive Blob, Dank Creeper and Dark Heart

Rebecca's reaction was so funny and heartwarming

[frank dune]

Imagine aying infernum for 4 months iust to completely forget base cal

[indigo glade]

Hive Blobs certainly... exist.

Totally did not forget them.

[split mortar]

I thought there was only two unique summons

[frank dune]

Then fights get reworked btw?

Hm is just boc

[frank dune]

I wjsh it was more

[cosmic zenith]

(I'm Dauntless Starlight)

[dusk laurel]

Dauntless

[cosmic zenith]

It's an iterator-style name I use in dev servers

[split mortar]

Why are you multiplying bread

[cosmic zenith]

Makes me feel professional

[split mortar]

You mean iterator or am I dumb

[cosmic zenith]

Because bread is yum

[dusk laurel]

Yummers

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, iterator

[split mortar]

Rain world

[frank dune]

Tf is rain world

[dusk laurel]

[sinful adder]

good game, play it

[dusk laurel]

Calamity players when other games exist "tf is this crap"

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcat-rain-world-gif-23392860

[sinful adder]

is draedon like an iterator. THat would be cool

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rivulet-rain-world-slugcat-dunk-ballin-gif-7684234335110226051

[cosmic zenith]

Nah

[split mortar]

Probably less biological

[sinful adder]

sad

[frank dune]

Who is draedons creator

Maybe player

[cosmic zenith]

Unknown

[frank dune]

From future

[sinful adder]

mystery engineer guy

[frank dune]

Idk

[dusk laurel]

No.

[cosmic zenith]

Definitely not the player

Firstly, because there's no time travel

[high lynx]

player is not 300 or howver old

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-engineer-engineer-meet-the-team-gif-5732139824238236940

[cosmic zenith]

Secondly, it's already shown that he was created centuries ago by someone who's already dead

[frank dune]

Calamity fortress 2

[dusk laurel]

No.

You really couldn't

[frank dune]

: (

[frank dune]

What if terrarian is my oc who exists beyond terraria

Does that count as terrarian

[split mortar]

I guess

Though they suck at naming still

[frank dune]

Yeah i suck at naming

Fr

I wish ares was launching actual nuke at gfb

Which also destroy tiles

[frank dune]

What if everything started not at terraria

Does that count then

[dusk laurel]

What does this even mean

[split mortar]

Idfk

[frank dune]

Uhhhh

My bad English as Russian moment

[cosmic zenith]

Iterators also have a lot more emotion and "humanity" in them
This post explores that in a particularly amazing way
https://x.com/magicajaphet/status/1794918704045826113?t=p0HVxryandYFpau0I7N6cw&s=19

MagicaJaphet (↓Comms Open) (@magicajaphet) on X

a lil comic abt iterators #rainworld

Twitter · May 27, 2024, 2:29 AM

(It has 4 images)

[frank dune]

Draedon was made by humanised exos

Thats crazy

[dusk laurel]

No

[split mortar]

||well yeah some want to die and others want to live and have morals||

[dusk laurel]

That's not what happened

[split mortar]

Iterates are rain world thing

[dusk laurel]

Ya

I was still responding to Alexey

[frank dune]

Well um whatever

Goodnight Melon, vanillin

https://tenor.com/view/ghostrider-skull-emoji-gif-16345884596070872694

[split mortar]

I wonder how smart they are, like how would they do in a intelligence match off against draedon

[sinful adder]

is this available on not twitter

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

The artist is MagicaJaphet

Why do you ask?

[sinful adder]

that is basically not at all what happened

[sinful adder]

twitter doesn't work without an account

[cosmic zenith]

(Yeah, that's a pretty inaccurate read)

[sinful adder]

like 90% of the time

[split mortar]

Well im basing it off of videos I have seen haven’t played the game yet

[dusk laurel]

Raim Worl

[sinful adder]

that is generally a bad idea to do

most lore videos online are wrong

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225030931008847874/1289014786637692928/Fast_pumpoem.gif

[dusk laurel]

Did Stip reveal the thing that had to get 30 reactions from before

[split mortar]

Oh yeah

Stip reveal it now please

[dusk laurel]

Where

Oh

Stip did a similar thing for the name of Chrysadia

[sudden ruin]

i too say reveal thy secret

[dusk laurel]

It needed 40 reactions

[split mortar]

stip why aren’t thee revealing

[viral juniper]

Removes your reactions

[split mortar]

:(

[cosmic zenith]

Reply to the comment

This one?

[dusk laurel]

ya

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[cosmic zenith]

Yes, it was Vetrasyl

[dusk laurel]

So Vetrasyl basically played hide and seek with Fovos in the beginning

[cosmic zenith]

Hence "Herald of Doom" in the iceberg chart

Vetrasyl was the first victim
The first shot fired

[cosmic zenith]

It was cooler than that
Storm is a very handy domain

But Fovos, being OP as he was, almost killed Vetrasyl

[dusk laurel]

I get more excited for the Moon Lord entry in SSO everytime I think about it
Epic lore dump of epic proportions

[split mortar]

I wonder how long the moonlord vs dragons apocalypse was

[split mortar]

Same

[cosmic zenith]

Moon Lord + Pillar lore in Vanilla Bestiary Rewrite might be the coolest set of reveals in any Bestiary entry

[split mortar]

might? there’s contenders?

[dusk laurel]

Didn't Reb mention that it will also explain ML's origin or like reason for coming

[split mortar]

I think

Like all of fovos will basically be in the bestiary I think

[cosmic zenith]

Origin, main power, reason for coming, strategy

It's insane

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1281211892014125118/IMG_5681-1.gif

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

and of course the

[split mortar]

IT VERY MUCH IS WTF

[indigo glade]

His main power is using his moon tongue to get all freaky.

[dusk laurel]

I hate you.

[split mortar]

Mods can we beat this guy with hammers

[cosmic zenith]

His main power is Nomon's Judgment

[indigo glade]

Suspicious...

[dusk laurel]

Fovos is obviously Blah from the Exxo Avalon Mod

[split mortar]

Idk what that is

Wuh

[indigo glade]

I think I know what Nomon is...

[cosmic zenith]

NOMON DEEZ NUUUUTS

[indigo glade]

I knew it.

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/blasted-dog-tongue-out-panting-shockwave-gif-17279800

[dusk laurel]

Fovos = Blah
Goozma = Armageddon Slime
Noxus = Oblivion

This is fact guys

Trust me

[tall delta]

why would moon lord attack terraria

[indigo glade]

Delicious and savoury Auric souls.

[dusk laurel]

Yharon didn't let him eat tacos from Terraria

[tall delta]

maybe

[dusk laurel]

Suspicious . . .

[split mortar]

To remove the zeratros tax

[indigo glade]

They make for great pizza toppings.

[dusk laurel]

Are you related to Moonlord perhaps?

[indigo glade]

You can trust my word!

[indigo glade]

How related do you mean by related?

[dusk laurel]

Same species

[indigo glade]

No.

[dusk laurel]

Planet?

[indigo glade]

No.

[dusk laurel]

Origin?

[indigo glade]

No.

[dusk laurel]

Power

[indigo glade]

No.

[dusk laurel]

:(

Sadge

[indigo glade]

You know the relationship between Old Duke and Duke Fishron?

Multiply that by ten thousand.

[dusk laurel]

Yeah?

Oh

[indigo glade]

Ten thousand Googols.

[spring helm]

sucks to get that title damn

[pliant ruin]

butter dog

dog with da butter

dog with da butter on him

[tall delta]

hello cheese

[pliant ruin]

hai : D

[split mortar]

Hello cheese

[spring helm]

Imagine getting the nickname "First Blood" and it's because you were the first to die in a foreign invasion

[indigo glade]

Hello, Milken One.

[dusk laurel]

Haii Cheese

[split mortar]

Hope kana doesn’t push you around with their mind again

[dusk laurel]

"mana"

[indigo glade]

Mana.

[pliant ruin]

i am a wizard

i love mana

[spring helm]

better than what my phone autocorrects to

[pliant ruin]

actually no

i'm more of a witch

[dusk laurel]

I play as a mage

[pliant ruin]

because i'm evil

[indigo glade]

Wrong.

[split mortar]

Ah so scal is evil

Since witch

[pliant ruin]

no i am

[dusk laurel]

But didn't you say you don't wanna be evil anymore

[pliant ruin]

i lied

[indigo glade]

You are a witch because you are closer to Calamitas.

[pliant ruin]

i'm evil again

[indigo glade]

Who is a girlfailure

[indigo glade]

Just like you.

[dusk laurel]

Yukari Yakumo

[pliant ruin]

i love that image

[dusk laurel]

Devious sage of Gensoukyo

[pliant ruin]

o yah lore chat ill be going to visit my aunt this weekend

gonna stay over at her place

[indigo glade]

That sounds nice.

[pliant ruin]

gonna see my cousins that i havent seen in like 5 years

[dusk laurel]

Didn't she give you the patreon money

[pliant ruin]

yes 😭

[spring helm]

Patron of Cheese

[dusk laurel]

Cheese is the patron of

_ _

[indigo glade]

I want to continue this piece I am writing, but I am unsure on how to do so...

[visual kiln]

p

[indigo glade]

e

[dusk laurel]

t

[indigo glade]

a

[visual kiln]

r

[real silo]

no

dtimky

[spring helm]

just watched someone fight minos prime so i could get a better idea of what fighting yharim would be like

[sudden ruin]

omg wait

thats a pretty good comparison

lovely close up fight

[spring helm]

now i can't get the idea of Yharim just walking through every attack an enemy sends him and punching them to submission

[spring helm]

apparently the Yharim bossfight will be inspired by Minos Prime's and Senator Armstrong's, not a Popcorn original idea unfortunately

future content doc

[spring helm]

Anyway it would be funny if Braelor fought the same way so their battle was just them two slowly walking up to each other and taking turn punching

Statis watches in disappointment

[sinful adder]

I imagine yharim will be extremely agile despite his size

Able to match the player's ability without needing to fly

By like... Maybe jumping up to and then sort of "combo attacking" the player

[high lynx]

chat... abyss is a real life thing

if i go deep enough i can literally stare into the abyss

and see the outline of the adult eidolon worm

[rotund shore]

Use the real life rod of discord trust

[frozen zodiac]

what if the reason the rod of discord hurts you if you spam it in vanilla is because you need focus to reconstruct your atoms well or something

since the death message mentions your legs and head switching places

[high lynx]

its chaos

entropy and such ig

[frank dune]

Hello lorers

[high lynx]

hello alexey

[frank dune]

Whats the lore

[high lynx]

uhm

theres a lot

where to start...

2000 years ago it was the age of dragons, and they protected terraria and such

and then fovos came along

ruh roh dragons fight him, almost all die

[frank dune]

|=|

I mean new

[high lynx]

we're waiting for SSO

but then we learn more about ilmeris finally

maybe even the date of the scorching

[tall crest]

so what's the lore behind the terrarian being able to pick up the fucking holy collider. that's like picking up an entire u-haul truck.

i know the terrarian is super strong but surely there is a limit

[spring helm]

there is no limit

[tall crest]

i feel like there's A Limit

[spring helm]

if you're looking for specific lore as to why your character can lift and use the Holy Collider then refer to this image

[tall crest]

no

im not

im asking a general, slightly silly question

[frank dune]

Holy collider is just light

[sleek halo]

Same

I do think Yharim is extremely fast and agile

But I also think that since Draedon had upgraded his armor

Draedon could’ve incorporated something for some form of flight

something similar to the boots ingame

[sinful adder]

Yharim probably already had wings, but just doesn't use them much

[spring helm]

yharim flies through sheer anger

[sleek halo]

I don’t think that’d fit

I don’t imagine anything would be able to work with his auric

Especially since as Cei had said

Yharim is no smith

This armor was likely not made by him

And Yharon can’t make armor either, brother don’t got hands

well dexterous human hands

I also don’t want the grand wings line

to be literal

[spring helm]

maybe Yharim stole Xeroc's old armour

[sleek halo]

Idk

Yharim is

quite large

I don’t imagine Xeroc being that tall

in the past

[hoary berry]

I don’t think yharim has wings but I do think he could jump really fucking high

[sleek halo]

Yeah same

Like I kinda view Yharim as

a near perfect warrior, he’s strong but not just strong, he’s fast, smart, skilled, and has a ton of endurance

[sinful adder]

Yharim had to fight gods that could all(?) fly, surely he can deal with that

[real silo]

Yharim has a whiplash

[sleek halo]

I mean

I assume that a lot couldn’t

(especially ones that never train)

[real silo]

I don't think fish people can

[sleek halo]

well they swim well

so

[thick slate]

aint no way ravager flying

[sleek halo]

[sleek halo]

I don’t think he will either

in his rework

Tho tbh Ravager kinda seems like

it really does fit the tier of strength it’s in

Mr I turn into a giant blob and just consume u

he kinda seems like venom

Brother just changes however he wants

[sleek halo]

ok actually idea

what if he just

morphs wings

his body clearly can be altered to his will

[thick slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404776393117925376/1295434232390357112/ravagerattackconceptswallclimb-gif-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

mm discord compression

[thick slate]

yep

[sleek halo]

Honestly the potential for attacks is

kinda limitless

[solar wharf]

is the rage and adrenaline canon?

[sinful adder]

It can be if you want, I think

[split mortar]

(Except names you always suck at naming)

[untold oracle]

I think it would be cool if Yharim had his own rage and adrenaline

In the fight

[split mortar]

Same

[latent bolt]

what if the stress meter was brought back

[split mortar]

The wha

[latent bolt]

the meter that was removed before rage and adrenaline

[split mortar]

Oh

Didn’t know a stress bar was a thing

[hoary berry]

i just made a spreadsheet to list every weapon in plaintext, sorted by rarity and class, so that i can begin laying out explanations for how each of them work in my headcanon...
and i think i should have kept the links to each page because now if i want to remind myself of how a weapon works i'll have to manually search for them each and every time

[split mortar]

Rip

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1293162389453406250/image0.gif

[frank dune]

Hey lorers

[untold oracle]

Haii

[swift badger]

From where do the Undead come from?

Like zombies, skeletons

[untold oracle]

Well, you could say they are imperfect attempts of necromancy

Also it’s possible blood moons cause undeads and what you find outside of them are just remnants

[frank dune]

Ofc it is

[sinful adder]

Someone said that the undead apparently only come back once, or something, but that doesn't explain why they happen in the first place

[frank dune]

Calamitas idk

[pliant ruin]

It's a game mechanic so it's "canonicity" is in that terrain of "It's not non-canon but it also is sort of up to interpretation and isn't really lore relevant" so that's actually a pretty valid question

like most weapons

it's not something physically present in the world so you could dial it up to your character just getting really angry or make it an actual superpower they have, or a power boost, w/e

[pliant ruin]

I think it's a polterghast situation

They're ''natural" undead

corpses of thousands of victims of the crusade who refuse to die

[devout grotto]

Huh, I'll take note of that

[frank dune]

I am talkin about adrenaline like irl

You get somewhat force

Idk

[scenic olive]

does cal gods need any form of sustenance

or can you just lock them up in a cage or smth

Forever

[untold oracle]

I don’t think they rely on food or water

[scenic olive]

Okay but do they need anything else

like does Xeroc needs the sun to exist

[untold oracle]

They need worship points

[scenic olive]

Clout of Calamity

[untold oracle]

They compete for it

What would calamity characters do if they were put in parkour civilization

[real silo]

Some of them can straight up fly

[spring helm]

I don’t think calamitas would ever jump for the beef

[dusk laurel]

[hoary berry]

okay what the fuck is parkour civilisation

i keep on seeing snippets of conversations about it

i am very confused

[dusk laurel]

There's stuff in it

[hoary berry]

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-tf2-medic-gif-25322249

[untold oracle]

I assume DoG would but fail

[cloud ibex]

YouTube series(?) about parkour I think

[mighty zenith]

low budget shonen anime in minecraft

[cloud ibex]

Something like that

[thick slate]

its so good

[frozen zodiac]

i get that its shonen but i watched it and holy shit the plot armor the main guy had is so absurd i love and hate it
||there's one part where he needs blocks for a jump desperately and OUT OF LITERALLY NOWHERE SOMEONE FALLS AND DROPS A TON OF ICE BLOCKS||

[untold oracle]

Lmao that part

I think it was just for comedic effect more than a plot point

[earnest ravine]

Watch it. It's actually a fun watch

Also, fellas. Who the fuck is our character story wise? Is our ability to revive cannon?

[mighty zenith]

1. It's completely up to you

2. By default no, but again, you can headcanon it if you want

[earnest ravine]

I mean, clearly we are in a position where everything is perfectly set up to our rise to power. And godly beings like Draedon and Yarhim are clearly interested in us

[mighty zenith]

the issue with respawning is that it removes any and all stakes and generally makes the story worse unless you build everything up with respawning in-mind

[earnest ravine]

I see, that makes sense

[earnest ravine]

I mean, if respawning is an ability only we have, it would have terrifying inplications for everyone else. I mean, no matter how many time they kills us we just, come back, and try again and again and again

Suddenly it's only a matter of time before everyone falls to you, since you pretty much got everything in your favour

[mighty zenith]

Yeah but then what's the point for any of the enemies to try? If you just keep coming back a couple minutes later there's no stakes to a fight. You're just doomed eventually.

[earnest ravine]

Welp, none of the people we fight are the kind to give up. That's for one

[spring helm]

Not exactly an impossible scenario

[mighty zenith]

Especially considering the only other character with the ability to come back from the dead has a massive cooldown for it (around a decade)

[spring helm]

Just find where they respawn and fill that place with lava

[mighty zenith]

respawning sounds cool in theory however trying to fit it into an already established story can lead to a ton of issues

[earnest ravine]

Yeah, on that we agree

[mighty zenith]

Calamity's lore simply isn't built with respawning in mind and making it canon would make it worse in the writers' eyes.

Undertale for instance handles it perfectly because its narrative is built almost entirely on the idea of saves and loads

[earnest ravine]

I just wonder about why, even when we were weaklings, so many of the strongest people in the world got their eyes on us. Even if just a slight stare

[mighty zenith]

most of the early enemies just kinda stumble upon us

[earnest ravine]

Doing it because of a bet seems like the most likely cause

[mighty zenith]

Yharim talking to us is kind of a plothole caused by the really bad implementation of his monologues

the lore whispers just kinda suck and will eventually be replaced

[earnest ravine]

Also, I need a whole team composed of character with each one of this backstories. That'd be funny

[thick slate]

hollow knights respawning makes sense lore wse as wel

[earnest ravine]

Hollow Knight my beloved

[thick slate]

love hk'

[earnest ravine]

Platinumed and beaten every boss on Radiant

Also, path of pain was fun

[mighty zenith]

yeah, the knight being made of void makes them being able to re-form after death plausible

[earnest ravine]

Some of them are really cool though

Like the Blood moon one. That shit gave me shivers

[mighty zenith]

oh yeah i dont mean the text in them

i mean the implementation of the text, the items themselves

[thick slate]

dont know how that really makes in silksong

but yk

[earnest ravine]

Ah, gotcha

[mighty zenith]

whats silksong

never heard of it

[thick slate]

real

[earnest ravine]

Silksong ain't real

[ionic harness]

Aido

[earnest ravine]

Aido

[mighty zenith]

ant man

[thick slate]

are you real

[ionic harness]

King dedede

[earnest ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-lebron-lebron-james-gif-24429995

[earnest ravine]

Are we real?

[thick slate]

no

[ionic harness]

Lore

[mighty zenith]

dude, i think i am

[thick slate]

thats actually some pretty solid evidence

[mighty zenith]

thats me1

[earnest ravine]

Cogito, ergo sum

[ionic harness]

Time to leave for another month

[earnest ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/descartes-sedierta-gif-23276960

[ionic harness]

I’ll return

[mighty zenith]

rene descartes?!

[thick slate]

wonderful reference

[cloud ibex]

That’s actually some really solid evidence

[mighty zenith]

snale

[cloud ibex]

You’re snale

[mighty zenith]

fesnale

[thick slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlR7xZ5-apY

[cloud ibex]

Turtles are basically snails already if you think about it

[mighty zenith]

plumg

[cloud ibex]

Annihilation

[thick slate]

[dusk laurel]

[sleek halo]

🐌 ≠ 🐢

[untold oracle]

Yes they are

[cloud ibex]

Proof?

[untold oracle]

Thet have a shell

[cloud ibex]

Just think about it….

[untold oracle]

And a long neck type thing

[fierce pagoda]

Both are food

[sleek halo]

Snails in general do match up in terms of size or lifespan

and diet

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

Aureus is a crab, that means that it is food

[sleek halo]

Aureus is metal

unless ur on my strange addiction

I don’t belive u ea tmetal

https://tenor.com/view/cat-calico-sleeping-cute-gif-18816974

[sleek halo]

[latent bolt]

wait jank eats metal

[sleek halo]

false

[untold oracle]

Devourer of Scraps

[mighty zenith]

the eepurr

[sleek halo]

“You’re no metal, but I’ll feast upon your microplastics regardless”

[sleek halo]

yeah he’s fucking stupid

[latent bolt]

yummers?

[untold oracle]

Are you sure

[sleek halo]

yes

cool fact

Mr perma can imbue weapons with his magic

[untold oracle]

Where is it stated or is it headcanon

I like it tho

[sleek halo]

Absolute Zero
“Shoots dark ice crystals
The blade creates frost explosions on direct hits
Ancient blade imbued with the Archmage of Ice's magic”

[untold oracle]

Oh cool

[sleek halo]

Wait

Archmage of Ice?

[untold oracle]

-# literally

[untold oracle]

Wait

[sleek halo]

Ig that’d make sense

His name is permafrost

His specialty is Ice

[robust osprey]

I eat metal

its tasty

[untold oracle]

Do you buy tin foil on a daily basis

[robust osprey]

nah I eat random metal I find funny to eat

I do that sometimes

[untold oracle]

I see

[sleek halo]

Hellkite apparently “Contains the power of an ancient drake”

My assumption is the flame dragon

[untold oracle]

How do you get that

[sleek halo]

tooltips

[untold oracle]

No I mean

How would one find flame dragon’s power

If they’ve been dead for like 800 years

[sleek halo]

Imbued weapons

mayhaps

We don’t know what it got up to

[mighty zenith]

weak-ass dragon then 💀

[sleek halo]

also the roxcalibur

apparently

is tied to WoF “The hellish Wall of Flesh holds the key to this weapon's power”

[robust osprey]

maybe its funny making random things with a little bit of dragon power

[sleek halo]

Greatsword of Judgment

Has an interesting thhing

“A pale white sword from a forgotten land
You can hear faint yet comforting whispers emanating from the blade
'No matter where you may be you are never alone
I shall always be at your side, my lord'”

[proven rivet]

Dragon of Gluttony

[mighty zenith]

true

[untold oracle]

Man imagine you’re a dragon

And all your friends get these cool ass superpowers

[proven rivet]

Imagine Dragons

[untold oracle]

And you get fucking gluttony

[untold oracle]

Yharon’s favourite band

[mighty zenith]

your power is being a fat fuck

[untold oracle]

Why? Because he can only imagine other dragons

[thick slate]

yharon the typa guy to like imagine dragons

[mighty zenith]

though tbh sloth would be worse

imagine that your domain is being fucking lazy

[proven rivet]

And then a fast threat arrives

[sleek halo]

The terratomere
“Linked to the essence of Terraria”

[proven rivet]

How the fuck did the Dragon of Glutonny survive Fovos

[mighty zenith]

his fat ass reflected the damage

[proven rivet]

Zeratros indirectly dies due to Fovos
Dragon of Gluttony gets killed by some random guy

[mighty zenith]

tbh i feel like the main reason was, dragon of gluttony didnt bother fighting fovos

he prob just fled and let the other dragons deal with it

[proven rivet]

how the fuck would he flee if he is a fat, slow fuck

[mighty zenith]

idk

[untold oracle]

He was already gone

Collecting food tax

[latent bolt]

gluttony out here sleeping

[lapis steppe]

He was probably hidden somewhere, or he was ded and slime god is that ancient (but probably not)

[mighty zenith]

couldnt have been

[lapis steppe]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

if xeroc is the first god, and xeroc only ascended after fovos fucked off

[lapis steppe]

forgor about that

[haughty ingot]

What's saying it did?

[spring helm]

Xeroc after ascending to become the First God

[proven rivet]

Xeroc is the first god, they ascended after Fovos got sealed

[sleek halo]

Fractured Ark
“A worn down and rusty blade once wielded against the evil of this world, ready to be of use once more”

[mighty zenith]

hm

[swift wigeon]

My theory is that Xeroc is pulling the strings behind the Terrarian's rise to power so that he can have a worthy opponent to face

[mighty zenith]

maybe frark was yharim's old sword?

[spring helm]

That could be fun

[proven rivet]

Yharim would use Ark of the Cosmos against the player then

[sleek halo]

Ark of the Ancients
“A heavenly blade forged to vanquish all evil”

[swift wigeon]

No, he'd use his current sword.

[spring helm]

Kinda small for him, but I already headacanon’d Braelor as the Biome Blade’s original user and it faces the same problem so it’s whatever

[mighty zenith]

or aotc is the terrarian taking an old and broken sword and upgrading it to a much higher level

[untold oracle]

Is this evil subjective here

[haughty ingot]

...Yeah?

[swift wigeon]

@proven rivet for reference, this is the concept art for his sword

[spring helm]

Some of the gods were evil

[mighty zenith]

isnt this old

[spring helm]

So it could have been from back at the start of the crusade

[proven rivet]

How old is that concept art

[untold oracle]

Okay old lore

[lapis steppe]

maybe the ark was used during fovos' invasion then?

[swift wigeon]

It's pretty old IIRC, but the design hasn't changed since

[proven rivet]

very likely outdated by lore then

[untold oracle]

It is outdated

Yharim prolly has another sword now

[mighty zenith]

yharim got a redesign so I'm pretty sure his weapon will too

[mighty zenith]

especially considering the ultisword renames

[mighty zenith]

darth maul that shit rn!!

[proven rivet]

Give him 8 swords

[swift wigeon]

??? How does the lore changing alter the weapon of an unreleased boss?

[sleek halo]

I desperately want him

to have chains

[untold oracle]

General Braelor!

[sleek halo]

on his sword

idc if he’s called kratos

[mighty zenith]

Ark of the Cosmos
"The physical culmination of your journey, capable of rending gods asunder"

[sleek halo]

he already is

[spring helm]

Doesn’t an attunement of the Biome Blade do that

[sleek halo]

And auric is

[proven rivet]

Yeah that seems very related to Yharim

[mighty zenith]

leads me to believe that frark was actually an old sword used by Yharim and the Terrarian kept upgrading it

[sleek halo]

The perfect combination of a chained sword

[mighty zenith]

since it says your journey

[sleek halo]

because to me

it gets rid of the biggest weakness of them

[untold oracle]

Good luck grabbing on that

[spring helm]

Garbo I’m stealing your idea

[sleek halo]

someone grabbing the chain

If you miss

[spring helm]

Jank I took this screenshot

[sleek halo]

LOL

true

[mighty zenith]

literally carrying over the torch

yeah im sticking with this

new headcanon >:3

[untold oracle]

New calamity players after successful gaslight session

[mighty zenith]

me when

[sleek halo]

but him having a chained weapon would be awesome

[mighty zenith]

he should have a mace because maces are awesome

[sleek halo]

Imo

[untold oracle]

Yharim should have a gun

[sleek halo]

He can basically use any weapon

[thick slate]

^

[sleek halo]

at a high level of skill

130 yrs

and a century of war

[untold oracle]

When you get to Yharim and he starts summoning minions whilst running away

[sleek halo]

doesn’t lead to being bad with wepons

[spring helm]

What did he break the FrArk on

[mighty zenith]

whipstacking

[sleek halo]

It’s not particularly

strong

tbf

[proven rivet]

Yharim will wavedash during his battle

[mighty zenith]

i feel like it was probably just worn down and he eventually got better materials

[sleek halo]

If he used it

it’d be very early

[mighty zenith]

hell, it could have been his weapon before his allegiance with azafure

[sleek halo]

maybe he used it during

before the whole

crusade thing

[mighty zenith]

and once azafure started providing him weaponry he discarded it

the terrarian crafting it is kinda silly tho but argghh

gameplay momento

[untold oracle]

Why did azafure ally with Yharim

[spring helm]

To be fair, the original form would have been closer to the Ark of the Ancients, which is post-CalClone

[proven rivet]

And plant

[sleek halo]

Maybe they weren’t friendly with gods

[mighty zenith]

didnt he free them from a tyrannical god

[sleek halo]

“The more domineering of Gods wished for me to champion their cause, and rule their society from here.
Yet, surrounded by magma as it were, Azafure simply burned when their wishes were not met.”

[mighty zenith]

which is why they sided with him

oh then nvm

misrembered

[hushed geyser]

[sleek halo]

Honestly

Yhairm was probably from

the Underworld

[mighty zenith]

they call him what

[sleek halo]

like

[hushed geyser]

They call me the drink

[sleek halo]

It’d make sense tbh

[hushed geyser]

Vegeta is the cup

Because he is my father

[untold oracle]

So would Yharim actually have grey skin

[swift wigeon]

Incorrect. We actually know this for a fact due to the Blood Moon lore entry. Yharim apparently spent his youth "buried knee deep in corpses" during blood moons, meaning that he had to have lived on the surface.

[mighty zenith]

baby trunks is the sippy cup

[sleek halo]

well that’s Axafurians

[hushed geyser]

The juice box

[sleek halo]

Who says he wasn’t trained

on the surface?

[mighty zenith]

thats kid trunks

[untold oracle]

I think it’s common with all underworld ppl not just azafurians

[hushed geyser]

The apple sauce

[sleek halo]

You can live one area and move to the others

I doubt Yharim was randomly chosen to be God King

[untold oracle]

But because azafure is kinda the only thing there they’re just called that

[sleek halo]

I kinda imagine they had it planned out

[hushed geyser]

Gotenks is the smoothie

[sleek halo]

and used shit to weed

[hushed geyser]

Because goten is the fruit

[lapis steppe]

is him being nicknamed the jungle tyrant outdated then? i thought he was native from there because of that

[sleek halo]

the unworthy out

[dusk laurel]

There is nothing that proves he participated in blood moons, it just states that he killed a lot of people and perhaps some undead too

[sleek halo]

yes

[mighty zenith]

yes

[dusk laurel]

outdated

[sleek halo]

That is old

[mighty zenith]

his new title is the Godseeker

no relation to the jungle

[lapis steppe]

gotcha

i need me a doc because i'm so out of the loop XD

[untold oracle]

Actually

Would it make sense if Yharim was an azafurian?

[dusk laurel]

check the pins

[sleek halo]

also the fact that

[spring helm]

The lore doc

[sleek halo]

Yharim is 130

[lapis steppe]

[swift wigeon]

You wouldn't send a kid to the surface at night to train, it just doesn't make sense. Plus, Yharim has shown that he knows little about the culture of Azafure. For example, he knows very little about the Brimstone Elemental as evidenced through his lore items, which wouldn't make sense if he grew up there

[sleek halo]

even 50 would be “youth” to him

[spring helm]

Yharim is built different I’m sure he could’ve handled it as a child

[untold oracle]

If Yharim was an azafurian it would explain both his alliance with azafure and his weak spot for scal

[sleek halo]

I doubt even Azafurians

truly know

About Brimmy

She has been sleeping for a while

[swift wigeon]

The Brimstone Elemental was active during the time period during which Yharim was a child.

[sleek halo]

most of their information is probably lost

[dusk laurel]

?

[sleek halo]

says.. who???

[dusk laurel]

Where does it say that

She has been dormant for a long time

[sleek halo]

brimmy only awoke from her slumber

in the last 20ish years

[mighty zenith]

begone, THOT

[lapis steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[dusk laurel]

Kill it with hammers

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-this-guy-with-hammers-gif-11774906233371367374

[lapis steppe]

i'm gonna need a bigger flammer for this heresy

[hushed geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/shus-get-shushed-home-home-da-movie-uhh-yeah-get-banned-lmfao-loser-gif-7415261918780897023

[sleek halo]

oh also

[swift wigeon]

IIRC it says somewhere that her slumber lasted 100 years

[sleek halo]

full thing

“The hellish reputation the underworld gets is rather a modern thing.
The layers of ash choking the formerly great cities are still warm.
The more domineering of Gods wished for me to champion their cause, and rule their society from here.
Yet, surrounded by magma as it were, Azafure simply burned when their wishes were not met.
Such is the unfortunate price of war, though I have no regrets fighting for my people.”

For my people

[untold oracle]

Oh shit!

[swift wigeon]

"His people" are those who side with him

[sleek halo]

he never says it again

[untold oracle]

So Yharim being an azafurian would make sense

[sleek halo]

He never calls anyone else

his people

iirc

[untold oracle]

New headcanon

[swift wigeon]

Also, if he was an Azafurian, then why would the Gods cast him into the Underworld as a PUNISHMENT?

[sleek halo]

no

[untold oracle]

Into LAVA

[sleek halo]

The casted him into

magma

[dusk laurel]

Azafurians aren't immune to lava

They are still human

[sleek halo]

The fact he lived

Should show he has some natural resistance though

[swift wigeon]

Calamitas is

[sleek halo]

which only supports my poiint

[untold oracle]

How so

[sleek halo]

She’s one of the most

powerful entities

on terraria