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Same
please do
It's just a debuff anyways and it's not like it has the same comedy as
Auric Absorber
comedy
Clearly that was going to be an upgrade to Absorber.
A proper counterpart to Holy Flames
Because Nightwither being a counterpart to two debuffs at the same time made it annoying to balance
Bit confused why it’s a frost debuff from fire adjacent goddess but alright
"Incinerated by lunar rays"
How does one get incinerated by lunar rays?
Simple
Moonlight now hurts you
Idfk but it's cool and like
Did you know? Blue flames signify that they are actually colder than orange flames.
Fair enough
My idea for Night Provi is still being worked on
That is why you can touch blue flames!
It might not go through
But I think it works and it keeps Night Provi still really fucking easy to access while not compromising the Lore
Yeah
And it’s not like she actively fights us with a disadvantage she can control
"night is a good time for practicing magic"
Night Providence has many, not-yet implemented solutions, that it slightly reminds me of SCP-001 proposals.

She channels the power of the stars, and is unable to get primordial light power
Night providence being the 001 of calamity funny
Night time just makes mages stronger, and she's good at using that
I think this makes the most sense
Then why not fight us during night only
Yes but that still has the inherent problem of making so Providence fought you with a severe handicap
That’s the main problem with a. Bunch of solutions
Because she spotted us and thought she could take us, I guess?
She is angry, not stupid. Remember that.
Like, there are a lot of ways of making Night Provi work, but most of them have the problem of making so your fight against her is against a weaker Providence
This is my problem with it
The expected fight becoming "actually she wasn't at full power"
No, Providence is fighting you with everything she has
Hmm
If this proposal does go through, would it be possible for there to be a short animation of Providence absorbing the Profaned Core before the fight starts?
I'd like for that to be a thing yeah
yoo
Would be cool
I still think the night magic thing makes sense, either as a part of the solution or the whole thing
3rd cutscene in SSO?
Like she can take the core from you or channel it's power remotely at night
A big maybe on that
Yeah, it makes sense, but that's not really the issue
The issue is not undermining the normal fight
Since even while enraged beyond beleif she wouldn’t willingly fight in a disadvantage
The player giving the core back is kinda already doing that
It isn't, because it's an advantage you acquired
She has no control on if we give it back or not
You took away that power from her. You are forcing her to fight you while being a bit weaker. This is you strategically making her less powerful
So she has no choice but to fight us while disadvantaged
It's the equivalent of fighting Sukuna while he has 15 Fingers but you have 5
Yes, he's not at full power, but you got those 5 Fingers on your own to give yourself the advantage
Ah yes, let me just
uneat Sukuna's fingers.

That’s called vomiting
But yeah, it's you
Literally giving up the advantage you acquired
It's the equivalent of Goku giving Cell a Senzu
Also why can she spawn the guardians in her fight if we have their core?
Maybe making new ones
I think that's implied with a Bestiary entry
Oh ok
According to Yharim, the guardians are extensions of her power.
So it is possible that she can recreate them, at expense of her own power.
Yharim
The most reliable guy
Providence is a lot like the Lord of frenzied flame from elden ring
The idea is that Providence can just puppeteer their bodies even after their death. After all, they are part of her Domain
Both want to end the world with strong fire
Oh so that’s why she is less aggressive when they’re up
She is using her focus to attack through them
That’s why I asked why she could summon them
Cause I thought the core was basically housing their soul
Yeah, she literally just
Nabs their corpses and squeezes whatever the fuck she can out of it
That's why their names are "Providence Defense, Healer and Offense" during provi's fight
I always assumed she put the souls of her original allies in her magic rocks
Could we technically consider the guardians as demigods?
No, the Guardians are literally the three people that helped her kill the Flame Dragons
This is why she is fucking livid
Her besties have been murdered idk who wouldn’t be livid
Yeah, I mean that. Same people in new bodies. I also thought she just put them back together when needed
Or more then that if we trust cheese scoog fan
takes the corpses of her friends, and uses them in a fight.
I think that’s more old lore stuff iirc
Providence is fucked up
Yeah
But also part of her whole deal is "dying is good, actually", so there is a sense in which she might be fine with that if it we're for the fact that they're useful
It's fun to write for Providence
She's basically the one main character I claimed to myself because I really really really fucking wanted to write for a major Boss
Dying is good, except when it is your besties dying.
Dying is good to her cause of pain
Them dying to your hand is unnecessary pain for her and her guards so she would still get pissed
What’s the difference between major boss and normal boss?
Fair
And I wanted to write for one of those
Unlocks a lot of stuff, usually.
Like every boss does that
Provi, DoG, Yharon, SCal and Draedon are the five dudes
True can’t deny she isn’t
I wanted to write for one of these
Dudes (Gender Neutral).
SCal and Draedon are more of a group writing
You forgot crabulon thanks to the sick ass theme
Everyone writes a little about each
Yharon and Yharim too to some extent, but Cei clearly has more of her on them
DoG is fucky
If theme alone was enough to be a main face, then that would include every boss.
I feel it's kind of strange that Draedon basically didn't exist until the rust and dust update
And then Provi was kinda vacant so I just said
Like, the idea existed, but nothing about him in the mod
Draedon bar.
"Can I make a giant fucking story for her?"
All the other "faces" are very old
Calamitas didn't even have a face for quite a while.
Yeah
(I wrote two 2k word messages on Dev today summarizing her storyline)

You should send it here, obviously.
True!
You going to cook so hard on providence
I am too sleepy that looks like 9 words
You'd be wrong.
That is two thousand words.
Vanillin it’s almost midnight for you go sleep aswell
It is 1 AM for you, you have no right to downtalk on anyone.
Go to sleep.

Stop planning and do it.
Bai
Imagine picking a major boss to write for when you can literally build the world itself smh....
Do you have a world soul?

The World Soul is my roomate
: )
Demigods dont exist in cal
providence gave a bit of her soul to them
^
so they are blessed+ iguess
so a blessing makes you generally stronger and doesnt change your appearence(atleast not THAT much) while a soul share makes you more stronger and you share traits of the god
maybe kinda that?
Just read up about what night time providence may become
If you do the whole giving her the profaned core back, would there be a unique drop associated with beating her at ‘120%’? Or would it still just be for challenge?
Not sure if that can be answered (or has an answer, since this isn’t confirmed to be what’s going to happen anyway)
Ascended Profaned Soul Crystal Core 
It makes you have nighttime providence's hp and defense
what is it about night time that makes us give providence the profaned core back
or is that up to us as per the image
™️
i think
it is still kinda wip
or smth about it not being related to nighttime provi anymore
oh right
she should have a monologue after summoning and at the end we have a choice whether or not to give her the core
idk
just an idea for how to get her enraged without it being related to night time

also monologue = lore
idk if she’s dramatic she might tell us the story of the guardians and why she’s so mad
or it’s just give her more character
we do know
and they were roommates
were they besties or roommates
i don't think that's a necessary detail
we already know they killed the auric dragon of flame together, and that provi gave each a portion of her soul afterwards

anyway i just meant a monologue would be cool for personifying her more
"Then again she kinda bad though." LMAO
for what?
provi
is it canon
I have
a feeling
I know what character the defensive fire was for…
providence
that or flame dragon
one of thise two
in hindsight that was really obvious
yeah
I mean Yharon isn’t immune
to his own flame
and it’s likely that scal isn’t either
brimmy should be but ehh i don’t see stuff for that fight being written
providence and the flame dragon however…

Wtf is defensive fire
fire used in a defensive manner
me conjuring windows firewall during a fight to block attacks
Providence when she sees the Terrarian bring a fire extinguisher to the battle
i need a buddy to play with i genuinely dont understand calamity i new
Man, this is interesting
(Reading the Cut Content doc)
Now the alive cousins of Crabulon are called Hermititans
Existence is an unending cycle
So many things that are being brought back in very different ways
are they gonna be in sso??
i feel like that’s a spoiler
Yes, they are going to be in SSO
👀‼️
👀👀
truly, in-class is the best time to think up ideas
Upside-downlamitas
Sky Temple (Clouded Acropolis), Scavenger (Scavengers), Mega Mammoth Dragon (Dragon of Frost), Braelor (Braelor NPC), Statis (Statis NPC), Killer Polyp (Polyperil), Void Queen (Stonecrest Hydra)
why is providence a hallowed boss 
She isn't
Her ties to the Hallow are just remnants from old lore that we'll eliminate with time
is clouded acropolis an area of the chrysadia ruins
or just the planned ingame name
Stonecrest Hydra and Polyperil are new 
Don't think we've heard of those before
I haven't heard of any of those except statis and braelor
What do you mean they're adding ravager 0.5
scavenger was a scrapped boss
that you can trade with ya
Dragon of frost is a lore character and the ancestor of pigrons/fishrons
which is based of mega mammoth dragon
wtf
triangle
tringleaks
Will he get ingame or smth
Considering they’re barely defined irl too, yeah
rain world enjoyer no way?
everyone is a fan of rain world
it's not obscure\
why must you be so miserable
Are you going to dip her in the water
They're about as defined as what a dragon is in real life
Which is roughly
"Eh, you generally know when when you see one "
hm
why thank you kana
Thank you kana
If you want weapons and stuff someone in addon chat made a addon for night prov drops
might be a tad powerful idk haven’t gotten to providence yet to know myself
Noo9
Tho
In was wondering
What is that red hair at yharims helm
Is that hair?
Feather?
Probably the same plume thing in the auric resprite
So probably not his hair anymore
Plume I think
Didn’t remember the word
I personally think he has long dark brown hair
it's not impossible for it to be his hair and our outfit is just based on it, but that feels unlikely
Why did drae decided to take over jungle
I feel like he probably has none left on account of the lava thing
With the nano plague?
Ye
He didn’t intend for it to break out
He can control it
I refuse that he’s bald
I like the idea of the plume being his hair so I shall headcanon it
He is
Yeah he def has scars and all that
That’s a miracle matter weapon he wouldn’t
He can’t
If he could make Exo blade he wouldn’t have gone to drae for Exo tech
You discovered the weapon
Not discovered
Made
But any sword yharim has would likely hit harder cause he is fucking built
Yharim is drug addict
Alright
May it possible be that aerie is built of same thing as houses on sky islands?
I think it’s been said the aerie is a sky island of sorts
The aerie would prob be made of stuff we haven’t seen yet
Hiii kana
Hello kana
Alexey going 5 seconds without trying to skin and/or eat Yharim (impossible)
True
Unfortunately I am at work rn 
No
Chat can be a little dead, as a treat
Not yet, but it can
Some of the things I mentioned changed considerably, like Scavenger (a Ravager boss) changing to some Crabs in the Shores
So is crabulon getting changed somehow in sso?
Oh cool
Can be found in sunken sea right
Looking forward to it
also will it get reworked vetrasyl?
Didn’t crabulon get a name change too?
Nope
since i heard that the rework plans for crab got scrapped because of OD or smth
okay
Ok
It'll get fight changes, just not a rename
Why is sso so ridiculously huge
Reworking the Sunken Sea already is a lot, and people still make extra stuff in the meantime as a break from SS work
like triangle spriting acid rain and sulph sea stuff
Slime god rework is also sso right?
for reasons
do yall have any headcanons for why tf we attack the aquatic scourge
Bro wanted to eat bait
Is there only one aquatic scourge?
also, shouldn't it be sulphuric scourge?
"Aquatic" scourge should just be in a normal ocean or something
i mean it’s called aquatic in game
I'm saying it shouldn't be
the bestiary entry says that killing it encouraged several animals to come out of hiding (acid rain tier 2) so i think there’s only one
ah
I know that, very strange.
If there's only one, then it's already technically extinct
Has flashback from ds and eow and pre-emptively attacks
maybe they reproduce asexually
right of course
worm = evil
AS is indeed the only non evil worm
Deus
wouldn't say Thanatos exactly counts as "evil" either
deconstructor probably doesn't count either
formerly armored digger i think
Desert scourge is not ”evil”
Would you call a bear evil
Because it has to eat
I know it's inaccurate, I really just mean aggressive
Or maybe the other members of its species moved out of SS
maybe this one was just dumb for not leaving and we simply helped natural selection
Have you considered
That this one aquatic scourge only had territory on this one specific part of the sulphuric sea rather than all of it
Given the game is 2d
Because like
Look at the enemies from acid rain t2
they're very much sulphuric sea guys
they couldn't have came out of nowhere
so i think there's multiple aquatic scourges
you just kill the one that settled in in that particular sector of the sulphuric sea as its territory
Poor scoog
Tbh sometimes i forget about that
yea
I’d say that this one was likely
bigger than average
due to draedon and his radiation shenanigans
Hello chease
draedon is so me fr fr
tbh
i have feeling animals was scarged of scoog cuz its unknown creature
like he doesnt even attack anyone
he [rob eats plankton or smth i am not marine biologist
so ig new animal in habitat just scary enough
Aquatic scourge was harmless yes
But it was very menacing so other predators avoided it
And killing it removes the threat, explaining T2 acid rain
Because the souls that scatter everywhere after killing polter stir up the sulphurous sea
what about old duke
like he was just: yo a guy here kill everyne i should prob go check that out?
I think all we know about old duke is what they are and not what they do
(There's no real canon explanation yet)
Cosmolite.
That’s the best I can think of
Since it says that ingame
Looks like a portal to distortion
Old steak
The distortion
He exists to bring stuff for noxus
does he really devour gods
exactly
though
there arent really any gods to eat anymore
Yes
he just eats us
We do have god essence on us thanks to wall of flesh exploding
bro thinks we are another god? or a kinda god?
A snack
we are also a devourer of gods
Considering elderberry craft has uelibloom iirc then yes
We eat some providence essence
yummers
”You killed the man who killed my father so i must kill you to bring honor to his name”
Is that confirmed?
It is in old lore
dog ate provi crystal in inf
Thats infernum
inf changes a lot of shit about lore no?
ooh
it was made long before the rewrite
waow
Lore rewrite was only like a year and a half ago ish
wow first time i see someone know something melon gun doesnt
Wha
Dog targeting provi is old lore I’m pretty sure
Was I wrong
A trap
goozma was one year ago
exo's released like 3 months ago i swear

I didn’t know Draedon was in old lore too
bro if aquatic scourge is normally a chill guy that wont attack us and we go ahead and attack him why did we call him a scourge
I played calamity before he was even a character and came back about a few months ago and thought he’s a new character lol
Melon, send the picture
You HATE DEMON...
what im saying is, he isnt really a scourge if he wont attack us and protects the sulphurous see no?
did google translate translate the word scourge correctly
^
terrarian sucks ass at naming
AS is a scourge because it intimidates predators though without being a threat itself
Other then we appear good to scal yeah I think that’s correct
yeah
Scourge because it is feared
aah i got it
We suck so bad at naming we name the sword made of miracle matter the Exo blade
what does exo mean

exotic
Exotic resonance
resonance
oh
When the terrarian I play with is actually a massive asshole who leveled half of the world, caused 3 mass extinction events, and blew up her pancakes with mind 
This you?
Yeah…
what is that
dumbo octopus
scp 999 ahh marine life
iirc
A lil guy
Hello everyone
hellooo everynyan
Yes
hello hunger
Underwater woodlice
Why every dragon in calamity dont look like dragons

Have you seen an irl dragon to compare
Folly/yharon are birds
dragons have a really rough definition
Yharon is an old sprite

Dragons look very varied irl
The mod was made before the rewrite, but a lot of things, such as the Providence getting eaten cutscene, weren't. They were made fully knowing they would be contradicting current lore.
Like snake but fly (optional)
it's as shrimple as that
yeag
isnt that what a wyrm is
also
Snake (optional) but fly (optional)
auric dragons
And they’re genetically a dragon
And a type of dragon irl
i love dragonfolly sprite, i hope they make yharon as good as that
both are getting resprited
the red electricity stuff look sick imo
Bring the 8 year old Yharon resprite
folly doesnt really need one imo
You get the yhar nugget box
Yharilious
yharon drops 9999 or something nuggets no?
In infernum
Infernum
In infernum
And it’s 5K
ooh thats in infernum? ok
Noxus getting jiggy
Tears after rai
Yes
N
4000 to 5000.
leviathan and anahita are the only bosses in the mod without plans to resprite them (not including exos and scal since they also aren't)
I hope we will be able to cook duke after sso
Scal is getting destrawberried so technically a resprite
She is?
sick music ngl
Even perforators?
alexey trying not to gif spam or eat boss challenge
Yup, states in changelogs
Town NPC will not have the red shading.
yep
That is the brimstone witch npc tho
Alright i wont i promise
Not the boss
k
their sprite is good enough
the reason for leviathan and anahita is because levi is too large
no dev wants to sprite it
Real af
Yharon is already hell
it looks good enough anyway
Pbg is getting resprites
DoG is only like 3 sprites since he’s segmented but Leviathan is one whole
Since the current one is like litteraly unfinished
Calamity tema be like
^
Resprite calamitas again
i hope you get your bones crushed
Can we just take a moment to apreciate the new Signus sprite. Literal peak
Bigger horns
Explode
Geez i was kidding
wait if they dont want to do leviathan bcus of his size, can that mean they never will resprite dog after the new one announced bcus its fucking huge?
Ik they 2anna overhaul old stuff
And then add yharim in final update
Can even joke lik bit
@gusty herald
Yeah
Though I don’t know if dog would get resprites cause the new one is sick
new one is average imo
Easier to do DoG
it looks cool
And also people like DoG
aah
Infernum new dog
ok
9 players wide ram dash
I doubt this level of great will be seen as wanted to be changed
That cheap?
it is detailed and looks cool but like
Waiter, 5 DoG armours pleas
not as good as ur saying imo
What I’m saying is I doubt they will see that sprite as low quality enough they will want to change it
(listen to calcast episode 4)
No
shayy mentions DoG won't require a ram
Okay maybe I will
Yeah cause no ram is big enough to pass through
Simply put on levi ambergris and OD scales
You can just cut dog in half from inside
Not this
Let him eat
This guy should have been Steve in the Minecraft movie
That’s how your get teleported straight to Noxus stomach
oh its back
Which is where noxus is
And what he can do?
Alt f4 our existence
We dont even know what could he do
Imagine how funny jt would be if noxus is just a nice guy
There’s a decent chance noxus speaks through dog with the hivemind thing
Thats gonna be stupid
making mech designs that look like they're between the normal bosses and the exo mechs
here's skeletron prime's rough sketch
Dog aint gonna have personality the
Bro thinks he is areslaughmp4
i mean.. it is designed to resemble ares in some capacity, but to moreso be a precursor to it
was inspired by that
buti wondered how far you could take it if it wasnt limited by being a texture pack
New arms?
having a torso that isnt welded to the head, having parts of the arms attached to the body and having different arm sprites
This looks quite good!
You making this ingame or just a sketch?
would be cool to make a mech reworks mod that uses the designs but i cant mod
More like the resource pack
a resource pack couldnt really accomplish a version of skeletron prime that looks like this
destroyer sketch
Oh it kinda looks like my own mech ocs
One of
Called sky's pillar
Though
Very cool
Any tail sketch?
not yet
i've basically got skeletron fully down (aside from small details) i've got destroyer a good bit done and i'm still messing with the twins
can miracle blight give you cancer
i hate this chat nowadays
Real
how rotten
This is like the fourth day in a row with an yharim taste discussion
Not to mention gif spam
it's just incoherent attempts at humor and gif spam
you're one of the people who does it the most
i literally never see you actually discussinglore

Where is this emoji from I wantit
do not wish for it
you simply haven't seen flame dragon
gah
devilish creature
return from whence you came
anyways the only dragon we've seen is literally just yharon
Fanmade stuff exists yes but they're fanmade
what about me

yeag...
of course
hai cheese
is that banullin
the pipeline...
What no new lore does to a chat
it is i
Also hello cheese
No
Am I part of the problem?
I'd like to believe that you aren't helping by posting this.
no those are cool they're actually funny
and they fit the channel
i'm talkinga bout the nonsensical brainrot humor
like jokes are fine
😃
but recently its just been incoherent nonsensical brainrot jokes
I hate it
And I hate how when there is a good discussion
Boom
Random gif that blocks the messages
Mmm
Kana is an exception
1.) it’s moon lord and not stupid brainrot
2.) it is a tradition by now lmao
What do yall think the crimson, corruption and hallowed gods were
Moon lord gif unites us all
What other sentient races are there?
We got humans, azafurians (who might be humans idk), the ilmerans, dwarves (I think demolitionist is one), dryads, the gods, the auric dragons, some of the non-auric dragons,
Moon lord gif is proof that the world is beautiful sometimes
Well
there's multiple
I forgot the goblins
for all of them
Oh yeah forgor
Pirates are just humans
Vampires
I don’t think the pirates are a race
Lihzahrds maybe
Corruption seemed to be some sort of ”dictator deities” so prolly the controlling and despotic ones
Crimson deities seemed to be totally heinous
Hallowed is the good and benevolent gods
I think
The gods are quite just those other races that ascended
Also what ever the zoologist is
Humans (Including Azafurians)
Lihzahrds
Jellyfish Illmerans
Seahorse Illmerans
Anglerfish Illmerans
Goblins
Dwarves
Dryads
Auric Dragons and close relatives like Old Duke (Basically an Auric Dragon, just dosen't have the soul itself)
Technically Gods but they're not really their own race as much as they're a member of another race transformed into something else
Idk if i'm missing any
No reason why that still can’t be a thing
Eidolon Wyrm
Those
Close relative
I grouped all the ilmerans because there were probably a bunch of others we just hadn’t heard of yet
But EWs are just regular animals afaik
So fairies I assume
Primordial squid
sage squid
hi kanaderu
Hello kana
you're either the top banana or the chimp
Which one are you
You are the grape
i am the bnuuy
:3
I’m making the cloud elemental chapter
Bnuuys*
What do I call it
What did you call the anahita one
Beyond the sea
Head in the clouds idk
Like the song
This is good
Alright this will do
Yay
Aint draedon refights are cankn?
Melon has carved their mark on my calamity world
No
Yay?
It took a long time to build the mechs
Draedon has only one set of Exo mechs
They were basically fresh out the factory when you fight them
He would have sent more if he had more
”Hmm, intriguing. You have defeated my first set of mechs. Here’s 3 more.”
Terrarian: 
yk i should make my OC lore
You should
goozma will be canon
Neat
If you want to
and he get perfect ascension and then obviously kill xeroc to prove that he is the strongest
yeah
Melon is gonna send this imagine again
It ain’t even the terrarian
I’m revising the king slime fight rn
Should I make the oc take the crown afterwards and sell it
I bet it is pretty damn valuable
Could
Capital gains
Y’all idk what pronoun to use for Draedon
It
He
Himself? Themself? Itself?
I think it’s a he but they would be the most technically correct
Himself I’m pretty sure is the used one
But does it really matter
Though he is genderless
Now choose.
I think he uses the he pronouns because like some formal thing or smth
Peak
Draedonself
I’ll just go with it/its
Alright that should work
Could draedon switch their voice
Would be funny if he installs the calamitas sound mp3 file and starts british
Yo chat. Should is skip like 10 chapters to write Signus
Bri ish
Nough!
You will do 40k word purgatory sentence

signuts
Nope
extra sketch
I don’t even write my chapters in order anymore
The Anahita chapter I posted should be Act 2 and I haven’t even finished chapter 2
Ascenssion
Should I make more chapters
So far I’ve been thinking that there’s a new chapter like in prelude, pre-hm, hardmode, and post-ml
This was supposed to be about Cloud Elemental
Depends
What are you writing again?
It’s lore?
Is there a narrative?
It is a narrative with dialogue
Okay
So far I’m 10k words in
At pre-wof
Though I’m revising and rewriting the parts as of rn
For me I write specifically with chapters in mind. Each is its own little narrative that builds atop the previous.
Like episodes in a TV show
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