No clue for orichalcum and others though
#lore-discussion
devout grotto
Idt the Terrarian could just invent new weapons and such and give them names, with some having references to particular cultures
Yeah I'm making them exist since the beginning in my stories 
fierce pagoda
what is the lore behind crates
who the hell put them there
and who managed to put auric ore in themm
deft vessel
what is the lore behind crates
Oops my bad
spring helm
Since perennial ore is post-Plantera it’s probably made from some of the souls that escaped from it after it died
split mortar
Maybe some strong gods also left behind the hardmode ores hence why more appear after wof
split mortar
Since perennial ore is post-Plantera it’s probably made from some of the souls t...
^
spring helm
But why only after the mechs
fierce pagoda
another thing i find funny is boss loot, like why the hell does Yharon carry weapons made for humans themed after him. did he carry them in case someone defeated him so that they could be rewared with loot?
hoary berry
But why only after the mechs
it spawns after wof
indigo glade
But why only after the mechs
It doesn't appear after mechs.
spring helm
Oh shit fr?
hoary berry
yeah
spring helm
Damn
deft vessel
Yea
spring helm
More god essence bullshit I guess
split mortar
Oh shit fr?
Mod fans when vanilla mechanic
indigo glade
It appears in Hardmode, and you are only capable of breaking it with a strong enough pickaxe.
fierce pagoda
chlorophye is just a plant very easily explainable
spring helm
Mod fans when vanilla mechanic
It’s been a while and I only go after the stuff post-mechs ok
fierce pagoda
maybe the souls released from killing hte mechs have something to do with ores appearing
also are Polterghasts ties to the abyss and acid rain only gameplay?
devout grotto
I kinda wanna explore the Glowing Mushrooms when it comes to certain recipes
spring helm
What’s the change caused by polterghast
devout grotto
Shroomite especially
indigo glade
Shroomite especially
Fungus.
split mortar
We fungused the plant
indigo glade
But strong.
fierce pagoda
What’s the change caused by polterghast
acid rain upgrades to tier 3 and abyss enemies start dropping loot
deft vessel
I kinda wanna explore the Glowing Mushrooms when it comes to certain recipes
This reminds me about that fact that my first oc was a mushroom
devout grotto
No but it's really interesting as to how Shroomite items are hightech
split mortar
acid rain upgrades to tier 3 and abyss enemies start dropping loot
Such as sharks getting teeth or worms getting swords
fierce pagoda
that just has to be game balance
no other plausible explanation
that would be satisfying
split mortar
No but it's really interesting as to how Shroomite items are hightech
We make shroomite gear, refer to this image when it comes to player things
spring helm
Don’t
devout grotto
Yeah I'm ngl I'd prefer if some stuff are just gameplay
Not too big on stuff if they all have to have something to do with lore 😅
fierce pagoda
what if bosses that canonically seek you out, like Yharon, Calamitas and providence had a chance to spawn in with a warning like the mech bosses
that would be lore fitting
devout grotto
Wait omg I like that idea
indigo glade
That is a horrid idea.
devout grotto
I've always wondered how I'd do boss progression in my story
spring helm
Yeah I don’t want to get jumped by calamitas please
fierce pagoda
That is a horrid idea.
works for the mechs
split mortar
I think it’s just cause it’s quite intrusive and post ml bosses need bigger arenas is why they don’t do it
split mortar
works for the mechs
And they need much smaller arenas
devout grotto
I kind of like
split mortar
Then the semi final boss
indigo glade
works for the mechs
Two of those spawn an arena.
devout grotto
Imagine Terraria/Calamity as an open world game rather than a sandbox game in my stories anyway
split mortar
What’s the difference between them my Brian decided to not worl
fierce pagoda
sandbox moment is when you can mine out the entire desert and sunken sea
devout grotto
😭
spring helm
sandbox moment is when you can mine out the entire desert and sunken sea
“I will finish what you started.”
fierce pagoda
does shimmer have rore in calamity
hoary berry
rawr
devout grotto
I imagine Shimmer as some sort of underground hazard
indigo glade
does shimmer have rore in calamity
Sorry, but as an AI, I am not updated with new slang words. Can you explain to me what "rore" means?
deft vessel
I adden an epic fight against a wraith in my story it lasts a whopping 2 sentences
(It got oneshotted)
untold oracle
Wraith! You’re approaching me?
fierce pagoda
Sorry, but as an AI, I am not updated with new slang words. Can you explain to m...
btw in case anyone is new to chat rore is short for roreculator, im just using slang chat
viral juniper
Wraith! You’re approaching me?
I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer
spring helm
I adden an epic fight against a wraith in my story it lasts a whopping 2 sentenc...
Hell yeah
hoary berry
okay i swear my brain just actually isn't working right now i can't think of anything
fierce pagoda
what was your old heardancon
hoary berry
the materials doc can stay untouched for now
fierce pagoda
headcanon
hoary berry
spring helm
No more super ancient minefield
hoary berry
i'm sort of glad i have a reason to rewrite it because wow the opening to that auric section is ass
fierce pagoda
holy hell i saw you select all the text and thought you were going to delete the text before i could read all of it
hoary berry
i hate the second paragraph so much
hoary berry
holy hell i saw you select all the text and thought you were going to delete the...
no i accidentally ctrl + a'd lmao
fierce pagoda
i thought the second paragraph was nice
hoary berry
it feels like i said the same thing three times but just added an extra tiny bit of information each time
fierce pagoda
and the idea is cool, auric ore is traces of the world soul that transformed rocks and shit into auric
hoary berry
i think i'll try to keep the final paragraph of the auric bit
fierce pagoda
oh no... you're british?
hoary berry
i think i'll try to keep the final paragraph of the auric bit
just because that alliteration was entirely unintentional and i am very amused by it
split mortar
We both are bisexual British
fierce pagoda
woah please dont colonize me
hoary berry
oh no... you're british?
choose your next words wisely
fierce pagoda
and steal my stuff and put it into museums
split mortar
I’ll bite you
spring helm
it feels like i said the same thing three times but just added an extra tiny bit...
Okay yeah now that I examine it closer I can see what you’re talking about
hoary berry
and steal my stuff and put it into museums
nottingham has this museum about this old court and prison and wow that was the most stressful thing ever
i almost got roped into taking part in a public activity????? i could never
i just half-ran out of there as the show began
then i went to a cat cafe 
fierce pagoda
did traveling to other countries get harder after brexit
did things get more expensive
indigo glade
Why do Yharon's drops look like they are made of Auric?
hoary berry
did traveling to other countries get harder after brexit
i haven't left the uk in years so i actually don't know
split mortar
Idk I was young as fuck when brexit happened
fierce pagoda
Why do Yharon's drops look like they are made of Auric?
because they have to be on theme with the whole dragon schtick n all
hoary berry
covid killed my habit of travelling to outside of the uk and i've never regained it
fierce pagoda
dont remind me of the lockdown...
split mortar
I only left the uk once and I nearly got lost in France or Spain I dont rember
fierce pagoda
what kinda shenanigans are you getting up to melon gun
hoary berry
i nearly drowned in france when i was like
five or six i think
fierce pagoda
getting lost in foreign countries
indigo glade
i nearly drowned in france when i was like
five or six i think
Worst place to visit. Nearly died in the worst way too.
spring helm
Idk I was young as fuck when brexit happened
split mortar
I only left the uk once and I nearly got lost in France or Spain I dont rember
And there were as many adults as children so idfk how I ninjad away to look at a penguin toy for three seconds
hoary berry
we went to a lake/lagoon/??? and i swam in it and lost my footing and started panicking and just nearly fucking drowned????
my parents and siblings just sat there laughing too
split mortar
:/
hoary berry
which makes me think i wasn't actually close to drowning whatsoever and my six year old mind just freaked the fuck out
but i'm never gonna be able to get rid of the belief that i nearly died that day because the fear was too real
sudden ruin
poor goose
fierce pagoda
why is there an anonymous armadillo in gooses materials document
split mortar
Also fuck British weather
hoary berry
who
hoary berry
Rains when I leave for college
it rained right as my lunch break started
fierce pagoda
is that other icon me
indigo glade
I specifically went and opened it to look at the paragraphs were you talking about.
hoary berry
i gave into the intrusive thoughts and deleted everything
deft vessel
try norwegian weather
Norwegians get to enjoy the gulf stream
hoary berry
it back
hoary berry
thankfully i did remember to add it to my clipboard before deleting it
hoary berry
although version histories exist anyway so it would've been fine
hoary berry
i should probably make the link to whatever i share next allow for comments so people can tell me if something makes zero sense
fierce pagoda
dont blame me im not norwegian, i would share if i could
I can carry it in buckets to you if you want
deft vessel
Great
hoary berry
that should be a commentor link?
can someone tell me if it worked i haven't done this before lmao
fierce pagoda
i wrote something did it work
split mortar
Idk I don’t own Google
fierce pagoda
Hell yeah
hoary berry
i think i have an idea for luminite somewhere
fierce pagoda
was my account anonymous or did you see my real name
deft vessel
Idk I don’t own Google
Well you probably are not alphabet inc
hoary berry
was my account anonymous or did you see my real name
wasn't anonymous
i'm gonna remove that commentor link because that's bad
spring helm
Nerdlamitas jumpscare wtf I wasn’t expecting that
split mortar
my iPad now tastes like milk great
fierce pagoda
whoops exposed my self haha
spring helm
I thought I was pHGoose for a second
fierce pagoda
gotta ffiix that
hoary berry
my iPad now tastes like milk great
whar
viral juniper
my iPad now tastes like milk great
Why are you tasting your ipad
fierce pagoda
Why are you tasting your ipad
you dont?
hoary berry
I thought I was pHGoose for a second
you WILL join the hive mind
split mortar
I spilled milk on it
I also have picca and autism or something
fierce pagoda
Pica? binding of isaac refrence
deft vessel
you WILL join the hive mind
Is this referencing the hit terraria calamity boss hive mind?!
split mortar
Pica? binding of isaac refrence
No
Desire to eat innedible things
dusk laurel
Nerdlamitas jumpscare wtf I wasn’t expecting that
why are you nerdlamitas
indigo glade
my iPad now tastes like milk great
What?
split mortar
I thought I was pHGoose for a second
Become British
spring helm
why are you nerdlamitas
That’s not me
hoary berry
why are you nerdlamitas
dusk laurel
That’s not me
oh
viral juniper
Stop eating your appliances
dusk laurel
my eyes have failed me again
sudden ruin
how studious..
split mortar
Stop eating your appliances
I just bite the not iPad case thing now and then
spring helm
Goose is the comment thing anonymous now
hoary berry
Goose is the comment thing anonymous now
i just removed the commenter link
if you're able to comment just don't
or open it using the old link
i don't think i can make comments anonymous
spring helm
Guess I’ll just make it here then
split mortar
Rip
spring helm
I want to drink cosmilite
- AnonymousBadger
fierce pagoda
after drinking cosmolite, the trip to the toilet would probably be crazy
broken abyss
do we have a silva design now
hoary berry
we've had one for a while
broken abyss
wait rly
hoary berry
check the pinned messages
split mortar
Silva the woman
spring helm
The woman
spring helm
She kinda looks like she just sprouted from the ground
hoary berry
i hate british weather
sudden ruin
is british weather soggy
frozen zodiac
Silva the woman
the way the plants go down from her waist makes it look like her thighs are massive to me
hoary berry
is british weather soggy
it legit just went from dry to pouring it down in three seconds
the rain is almost as loud as my music
spring helm
The England special
fierce pagoda
clouds got tired of holding it in i guess
fierce pagoda
haha
broken abyss
was going to draw silva but didnt know the design, oof
hoary berry
and all of tomorrow
fierce pagoda
the weathers clear where im at
spring helm
Now you do
split mortar
and all of tomorrow
Bloody hell
broken abyss
too bad the composition doesnt have room for her!
split mortar
it legit just went from dry to pouring it down in three seconds
I can attest
Went from slightly raining to absolutely pissing it down
And then got even more bloody worse in three seconds again like 20 mins for a bit
fierce pagoda
whats that feeling called, when your snug inside your house while its raining outside
split mortar
How does this part work
She is life
Wood makes sense
spring helm
I know it makes sense
split mortar
whats that feeling called, when your snug inside your house while its raining ou...
Compfe
hoary berry
spring helm
The transition from flesh to wood just kinda makes it look like she got her legs cut off and had to replace them with wood
frozen zodiac
how much would each calamity character respect braelor and statis's relationship
split mortar
Uhhh
Scal wouldn’t care and support their hate for yharim I imagine
fierce pagoda
i found the word it was "chrysalism" but it isnt recognized sadly
frozen zodiac
i feel like silva would support it considering its also her son(?)
fierce pagoda
I don't think the devs want to make any of their characters explicitly homophobic rn
split mortar
Not her son
Her champion
But yeah her son funny
split mortar
I don't think the devs want to make any of their characters explicitly homophobi...
Yharim is explicitly a bad guy why would making someone who commits genocide look down on another demographic change shit
fierce pagoda
why would Yharim care about something so insignificant though
he has bigger worries than boy love
untold oracle
How does this part work
Uses it to grapple to objects
spring helm
Tactical wooden legs
deft vessel
Man… i want to write more about the dream deity because he is fun to write, but he is not to Mc so i have to write to the part where he returns
split mortar
He racist to lihzahrds so I do think he could
fierce pagoda
He has reasons relevant to his character to hate lizhards, but i dont see any reason to why he would be homophobic, or how that would be meaningful to his character
spring helm
Yharim is homophobic not because he hates gay people but because it increases his hate of god worshippers
frozen zodiac
he has bigger worries than boy love
honestly considering we dont know where his relatives (blood related or not) went after the failure of the godking ritual i feel like he would pity himself for not finding someone that truly cares about him
split mortar
Yharim is homophobic not because he hates gay people but because it increases hi...
Tactical homophobia
devout grotto
😭
fierce pagoda
honestly considering we dont know where his relatives (blood related or not) wen...
I'd say Yharon truly cares for him
devout grotto
Wait ok speaking of Yharim and Lihzahrds
split mortar
honestly considering we dont know where his relatives (blood related or not) wen...
He is attuned to yharon which requires being close and in sync
Don’t think he would need that from another even if it’s not romance
He seems to occupied to romance someone
devout grotto
Is he even meant to be a Lihzahrd? Because he says "me and my people" rather than "me and them"
fierce pagoda
alright all this romance speaks makes me want a calamity dating sim
indigo glade
Is he even meant to be a Lihzahrd? Because he says "me and *my people*" rather t...
No.
devout grotto
Would love some clarification on that
indigo glade
Lihzahrd Yharim is a very old thing that hasn't been true for a long time now.
devout grotto
Ah so old lore stuff
split mortar
Where is the me and my people thing from
devout grotto
Golem lore
split mortar
Cause I know it exists I just forgot
deft vessel
Is he even meant to be a Lihzahrd? Because he says "me and *my people*" rather t...
You dont need to be the same species to consider someone your people
split mortar
Oh ok
indigo glade
Where is the me and my people thing from
"I see no need to intervene in affairs beneath me and my people." The final line of Golem's lore item.
frozen zodiac
I'd say Yharon truly cares for him
still i feel like after everyone else he knew left that would make him realize at some point they weren't his friends, only people following him out of necessity or obligation of some kind
devout grotto
You dont need to be the same species to consider someone your people
Hmmm
split mortar
Perma was def a friend imo
fierce pagoda
maybe, but i like to think that Yharon and Yharim really do like eachother, and not out of any obligation
split mortar
And he kicked draedon away
fierce pagoda
they genuinely are just very good friends
fierce pagoda
Don't underestimate the bond between men during war
deft vessel
Man… i want to write more about the dream deity because he is fun to write, but ...
What do i do
split mortar
Man… i want to write more about the dream deity because he is fun to write, but ...
Uhhh
Write up the origin of the dream god like a bestiary entry and lore item?
deft vessel
Uhhh
Write up the origin of the dream god like a bestiary entry and lore item?
Marvelous
split mortar
Did I actually help?
deft vessel
Indeed you have
dusk laurel
omoli
devout grotto
alright all this romance speaks makes me want a calamity dating sim
...
fierce pagoda
Omori mains
fierce pagoda
hold on im listening
spring helm
I think someone’s already working on a terraria dating sim
deft vessel
Indeed you have
He only has 8 lines in the prologue
split mortar
alright all this romance speaks makes me want a calamity dating sim
Like demon hearts?
(Scal should just not be an option)
frozen zodiac
if Statis and Braelor are post Yharon maybe he could compare himself to their relationship in some way
"With my closest ally gone, i now realize if it were not for him, i would have never had a true friend. I never attempted to make a genuine relationship with anyone else, all of them were tools to me. Perhaps, it's better off this way. It is a heart wrenching feeling to lose the ones closest to you, whether its temporary or an eternal separation."
deft vessel
(Scal should just not be an option)
Tbh i think that would be like the only reason people would play that
frozen zodiac
terria bosses dating sim
psst psst Demon Hearts
split mortar
Tbh i think that would be like the only reason people would play that
Simple
Add the elementals
fierce pagoda
(Scal should just not be an option)
I think if anyone were to make a calamit dating sim, they'd probably not gaf and add her anyways
deft vessel
Simple
Add the elementals
•_•
deft vessel
I guess
devout grotto
DLC with addon bosses
frozen zodiac
what i liked about demon hearts is the only real humanoid boss was the empress of light
all the other were non humanoid bosses like king slime or the eater of worlds
spring helm
Lore chat does this read like something Yharim would say
fierce pagoda
why is blud yapping
deft vessel
I do feel like Yharim is one to start monologing
split mortar
why is blud yapping
It’s yharim
split mortar
I do feel like Yharim is one to start monologing
He does
fierce pagoda
Yaphirm
split mortar
Lore items
spring helm
I made Yharim a voice in the Terrarian’s head
fierce pagoda
they still need to change the lore items names to Yharyap
split mortar
I made Yharim a voice in the Terrarian’s head
That is what the yharim rants are
spring helm
You got mail
“Hello my name is Yharim have you heard of the dragons?”
fierce pagoda
do we really spare Yharon?
split mortar
The yhonologues of you will
spring helm
do we really spare Yharon?
No
fierce pagoda
isnt it more like we just cant kill him
frozen zodiac
I made Yharim a voice in the Terrarian’s head
i always imagined it more like undertale comics where chara's ghost is following frisk around
devout grotto
The yhonologues of you will
✋🏼😭
spring helm
People die when they are killed
split mortar
Not yharon
frozen zodiac
false
fierce pagoda
what if Yharyap turned into actual whispers,
deft vessel
In my headcanon the terraria is just chilling untill ”tomb of the dragon stirs…”
fierce pagoda
like text that appears on screen
like the end credits for terraria
insead of being items you have to rightclick
frozen zodiac
i would love if they were voice acted
spring helm
like text that appears on screen
I feel that would be too in your face since most people don’t really care for the lore
frozen zodiac
man i spent hours of my life stomping
gods
spring helm
Unless you mean they show up when you click on something
fierce pagoda
I feel that would be too in your face since most people don’t really care for th...
we could have an option to turn it off and on
spring helm
Lore chat does this read like something Yharim would say
So yay or nay?
split mortar
Yay
fierce pagoda
I would say yay, but i tend to like anything so maybe wait for others
if we ever got voice acting for any of the characters, then AI voice memes would emerge
split mortar
What do these even mean
broken abyss
i dunno
split mortar
Why is yharim talking to concepts
fierce pagoda
Why is yharim talking to concepts
He'll make up any excuse to YharYap
broken abyss
maybe it's a dream yharim has in his late days
split mortar
Dementia arc real
broken abyss
the writing is intentionally made dreamy and vague
so that makes sense
it's a children's book
frozen zodiac
i havent thought about how likely it would be for stories of yharim to be told as warnings to future generations
spring helm
That’s like turning hitler’s life into a children’s book
broken abyss
bruuuuuh
hoary berry
That’s like turning hitler’s life into a children’s book
oh i am so tempted to add that to the doc with zero context
spring helm
frozen zodiac
That’s like turning hitler’s life into a children’s book
i mean it doesnt HAVE to be a children's book it could be a history book or just general word of the public as lessons to the young ones
split mortar
That’s like turning hitler’s life into a children’s book
The Black Death was made into a children’s game
spring helm
I forgot about how morbid that song was
split mortar
broken abyss
now that sounds terrifying, but i persist on art!
split mortar
It’s a real song
hoary berry
The Black Death was made into a children’s game
is that the "ring a ring o' roses" one?
if so yeah it's fucking morbid
split mortar
Yeah
stark basalt
spring helm
Kana
dusk laurel
Kana
ruby heart
Mammoth is a auric dragon, but ye he is dead
His sons are thriving tho (pigrons and fishrons)
ruby heart
Considering the users aproved my mammoth dragon fossil structure
I would say its real
ruby heart
Mammoth dragon is the only mammal dragon we have + pigrons are from the tundra
So it connects well
spare pier
Triangle I think you're throwing a bit too many plans around
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif
split mortar
So you make them bald?
ruby heart
Balding
spare pier
I'd prefer if the Tundra skeleton was kept as a surprise, man
spare pier
You did???
spare pier
Man
ruby heart
The ideia originated in spoiler talk
While discussing with the users
Then i ported to dev to see if it could be real
dusk laurel
triangle is a man of the people
spare pier
I mean I do that too
split mortar
Triangle be feeding spoiler well
spare pier
I just think some stuff are cooler to be kept as a surprise
split mortar
(So do you and others to be fair)
dusk laurel
^
spare pier
My thought proccess is always
ruby heart
It originated here so it was never a surprise, but ye 
spare pier
"Would people be happy to hear about something or just go "oh this is cool"?"
ruby heart
I will leave the more specifics of it for when its ingame
split mortar
Mega mammoth dragon
sleek halo
his domain is mammoths
hoary berry
the mammoth dragon is real
this message gave me an idea for like
0.5 seconds
and now it's gone
hoary berry
split mortar
Why cornifer cold
hoary berry
Why cornifer cold
he forgor his fluffy coat
okay now i can't get the image of hk characters dressed in fluffy clothes out of my head
stark basalt
hoary berry
hi kana
dusk laurel
Kana
split mortar
They’re increasing in speed
hoary berry
soon they'll rival the frequency with which you post the terrarian image
hoary berry
split mortar
Says the tax collector
Also I didn’t know yoshi did that how could they
hoary berry
cosmic zenith
Mammoth dragon is the only mammal dragon we have + pigrons are from the tundra
I should probably mention Vetrasyl might have some mammalian features, most notably batlike wing anatomy, mammalian ears and fur
This topic brings back that itch I mentioned, of making a Permafrost Castle structure
broken solar
Would Slime God be even relevant if he survived after the terrarian killed Queen?
mighty zenith
they'd continue doing their thing most likely
probably wouldnt try going after the terrarian again
also definitely wouldnt try messing with the hallow again
broken solar
SG would probably ask the terrarian if they can partake in the killing of Yharim
as an ally
mighty zenith
i doubt it
considering they
try to kill them
twice
they'd just be scared shitless at that point most likely and not approach the player
broken solar
if only
ruby heart
~~I should probably mention Vetrasyl might have some mammalian features, most no...
Batlike anatomy is the
Generic wyvern anatomy tho
cosmic zenith
It's a mammalian feature
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The closest wing anatomy to reptiles are avian wings and (naturally) pterodactyls
pliant ruin
pterosaur wings aren't too far off from bat wings
but in most fantasy media wyverns tend to have batlike wings ye
its sorta a common design trope
cosmic zenith
Yeah, batlike wings are a recurring mammalian inspiration in dragons
cosmic zenith
pterosaur wings aren't too far off from bat wings
They're closer to bird wings, due to the fact their metacarpals are reasonably elongated and their phalanges are in pronation, extended along the top of the wing
Meanwhile, bat wings have long metacarpals and phalanges in supination, with membranes between the fingers instead of just between one finger and the body
Med school is paying off
pliant ruin
They're closer to bird wings, due to the fact their metacarpals are reasonably e...
ye but i more so meant they're both wings supported by finger bones connected through a soft tissue membrane rather than feathers but ur right
cosmic zenith
Pterosaur wing (a.k.a. bigass pinky) vs. bat wing (a.k.a. longass fingers)
A bird's wing, for comparison
tall delta
doesnt matter vetrasyl dies
sleek halo
tall delta
this is the fate
sleek halo
~~I should probably mention Vetrasyl might have some mammalian features, most no...
mammalian aspects
cosmic zenith
Mammoth does too smh...
sleek halo
but i don’t think they’d be a mammal
cosmic zenith
Oh, classifying an Auric Dragon would be nightmarish
sleek halo
Yeah…
Yharon should theoretically be easy
but then he isn’t
ceratopsian like head
with bird wings
cosmic zenith
That moment when birds are just modern dinosaurs
Phylogenetic classification is a lot funkier than it seems at first glance
When can you say a creature leaves a group and enters another, when evolution is a gradual process with countless intermediary states we struggle to classify?
When does a dinosaur cease to be a reptile and becomes an avian?
If we consider birds part of reptiles due to their phylogenetic history, you could stretch our classification back to the very first unicellular life forms
tall delta
How vetrasyl died
indigo glade
When does a dinosaur cease to be a reptile and becomes an avian?
When they can be turned into a man. (This is a reference to something, I promise)
pliant ruin
technically every tetrapod is a fish 💔
or
well
actually no yeah every tetrapod is a fish
fiery meadow
Mammoth is a auric dragon, but ye he is dead
He’s REAL????
indigo glade
He’s REAL????
No, it is dead.
tall delta
my messages are taking way too long to be sent this is pain
fiery meadow
I thought any trace of the MMD was gone from base Cal
ruby heart
he will be
fiery meadow
I was actually looking forward to just writing Mammoth Dragon for Catharsis but uhh
This now throws a wrench into my plans 😔
Fuckkk
ruby heart
you can still
just make your own take on it
i plan to do the same possibly with enamoured user if i have time (mmd addon)
fiery meadow
I see
tall delta
He’s REAL????
yeah, but dead
fiery meadow
I could play into the aspect of dragons being reborn
The boss I plan is post-Yharon
fiery meadow
(It’d be hilarious if you just used Yharon’s power to fucking resurrect a dragon, and then you kill it and piss off Yharim)
ruby heart
I thought any trace of the MMD was gone from base Cal
was he fully killed tho in lore
fiery meadow
Kinda?
ruby heart
like with the new lore he could always be real, nothing impossibilitated it
we have a dragon of flame, why not a frost one
fiery meadow
Like, there is no mention of what MMD was, aside from “all dragons were purged during the defiec era”
It could feasibly exist in lore
ruby heart
but well main mod will have his skeleton there
plan to make him a wyrmvern (6 limbs, first one beings winged and bat like)
more based on the old concept art of him being more transluscent and ghostly
weird creature
fiery meadow
My idea for the Mammoth Dragon was to have him be the cause of the Tundra’s existence after nuking himself on Fovos, before he froze over into eternal hibernation in a block of ice
He’d be fully defrosted after Yharon died and his energy radiated across Terraria (Auric Ore is laced from his death, so this isn’t too infeasible)
No one took his soul cause nobody knew he existed, and Yharon thought him dead cause, well…
split mortar
Hello what are we loring
split mortar
As my hello gift you get dumbo octopus
fiery meadow
My idea for the Mammoth Dragon was to have him be the cause of the Tundra’s exis...
I can still use this cause like
Acting as a living bomb would probably destroy like, your entire body?
ruby heart
well
magic epoch
As my hello gift you get dumbo octopus
THE FLUMB
ruby heart
the tundra is mostly permafrost moment
split mortar
It’s said he only enhances it does it not
ruby heart
my ideia for mammoth dragon (very headcannon wip, full of yap) is that
magic epoch
What if calamitas was an octopus and her name was incomprehensible
ruby heart
once the dragon hunt started, he decided to freeze the entire world with his kin
split mortar
Reverse providence so far
ruby heart
to end the human and god era, and years laters the dragons be able to reign the world again
but he failed and was killed in a huge war confront, his kins scattered through the world, the more weakened ones even feel to god influention
fiery meadow
Interesting
ruby heart
and in this chaos his soul was lost
fiery meadow
I honestly prefer the idea that draconic subspecies just started appearing and splitting off across the world via evolution and the sorts, but that is a neat interpretation
fiery meadow
Yeah
ruby heart
most of the offshoots are offsprings of other dragons
that didnt got to have a soul because there was no more souls to be given
and with time and generations they slowly lost the dragonblood of their origin point
fiery meadow
This was my thought process tbh
ruby heart
old duke being one of the oldest offshoot alive
was almost able to get a soul
but he was too late
he is p much a auric dragon in lineage, just dont have the soul
magic epoch
Unauric dragon
split mortar
That’s called a dragon
ruby heart
true
ruby heart
but he failed and was killed in a huge war confront, his kins scattered through ...
his kin being the
original fishrons and pigrons
that lived in colder enviroments like the tundra
that why old duke has fur
split mortar
Unauric god
That’s Dave from I.T
fiery meadow
If you want, can I discuss the Mammoth Dragon stuff in DMs with you? You know the gist of what parts of it will be in base Cal and general design of the thing, and I want Catharsis’ interpretation to slot into the lore mostly seamlessly
ruby heart
i mean
there isnt much lore to mmd
in main mod
he was the frost dragon, origin point of fishrons and pigrons, died
that is it
the stuff i was talking about is just yap headcanon that ii might use in a for fun addon
tall delta
I assume no god info for now?
dusk laurel
its soul was lost
sudden ruin
add hognar to triangle addon
ruby heart
the soul wasnt lost, that is part of my yap headcanon
but well godwise idk
it wont be important in lore
just a god ™️ that died in the crusade or is alive somewhere doing god things
idk
split mortar
Dragon of frost to god of winter? Idfk
ruby heart
the guy that took mmd lore isnt important, no need to disclose on him
tall delta
the stuff i was talking about is just yap headcanon that ii might use in a for f...
is he going to be a full boss?
split mortar
just a god ™️ that died in the crusade or is alive somewhere doing god things
Rando god number 374
fiery meadow
Will go with my plan then
Dragon nuked himself on Fovos during the war, body was destroyed but the soul remains, the player resurrects him and he fights the player after seeing the world in ruin
tall delta
good luck with the addon both of you
scenic olive
what if Yharim didnt exist, where would auric souls go when they die
Yharon*
man brain aint braining today
split mortar
They would go to the aerie and not revive I guess
split mortar
Dumbos?
More like dumbo octopus
dusk laurel
is this your new obsession
i thought it was the "The Terrarian's lore is up to you!" image
magic epoch
Can you blame them!
dusk laurel
not really
split mortar
But what if both?
high lynx
Edit “you’re a squid” to “you’re a cute octopus”
dusk laurel
the calamari in question:
manic coral
As much as I'd love to give the player character an actual story, imo that doesn't work with the fact that it's a sandbox game
tall delta
But what if both?
Seeing it reminds me of my monstrosity
high lynx
Stardew valley has a finite amount of story for the player, right?
tall delta
As much as I'd love to give the player character an actual story, imo that doesn...
but how could it be like If you did wrote it
high lynx
She cant write you
manic coral
Part of the point of a sandbox game is that you can do sorta whatever
You can do whatever you wanna
So, to my mind, you should be able to be whoever you wanna
Feels more within the spirit of the game
spring helm
can you believe it calamitas
christmas, just a week away
Cei do you ship Braelor and Statis
sinful adder
You could imply some things, like why Yharim contacts you, without confirming them
dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
Yes, of course
Not having Yharim interact with the player personally would be a huge loss
spring helm
Yhartalk let's go
rotund shore
yharyapping
tall delta
Lore Items Rework moment
oh? I thought they were going to be removed?
cosmic zenith
No, that would be awful
Well
They're not gonna exist as abstract wisp-like items anymore
But they're still gonna exist as lore you receive after defeating each boss
dusk laurel
will it be a message in the chat or smth
cosmic zenith
will it be a message in the chat or smth
Nah
sinful adder
That still leaves the question of "why and how is yharim watching you and also talking to you even before you do anything notable"
frosty shale
the cynosure lore implies he's waiting for you in the Dragon Aerie
which explains the how
but not the why
sinful adder
That's already known. That doesn't explain much. Why can he talk to you from there? This isn't that hard to answer, it's magic or something. The hard part is why. It makes sense for him to contact you after you do something notable, like kill slime god, but not when you just appear in the exact center of the continent with nothing but copper tools
cosmic zenith
Don't worry, we have that nailed down
sinful adder
Cool
visual kiln
i plan to do the same possibly with enamoured user if i have time (mmd addon)
WHAT
based
its finally happening,,,
zara had a similar idea to u if im guessing right btw
sleek halo
was almost able to get a soul
I wonder how close PW was
also what dragon birthed the eidolons
I assume some powerful dragon related to water/sea
(Especially considering PW without the blessing is probably still around like.. DoG tier minimum)
(I can’t imagine him being weaker than that
honestly kind of funny that
Jared likely surpassed the dragon that made his lineage
Unless it was literally Zeratros
latent bolt
Unless it was literally Zeratros
zeratros when he found the distant ancestor of the desert scourge:
latent bolt
both the scourges and eidolon wyrms are sea worms, yes?
spring helm
are we getting a dragon taxonomy class
spring helm
what makes something in a setting a dragon?
the writer/s calling it one
dusk laurel
^
latent bolt
unless we have any confirmation on which dragon made the primordial wyrm, this is canon
dusk laurel
dusk laurel
^
spring helm
would be pretty cool if primordial wyrm was as old/older than yharon
frosty shale
I think the bestiary entry specifically says it predates the dragons or something?
or like, going back to the "Golden Age of Dragons"
stark basalt
sinful adder
Terror itself returns
dusk laurel
Kanic Fovos
real silo
would be pretty cool if primordial wyrm was as old/older than yharon
I don't think it can be older than any auric dragon
It not getting an auric soul makes me think it was born after every other dragon got their own auric soul
high merlin
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
That stare when you cause the extinction of an entire race
high merlin
It not getting an auric soul makes me think it was born after every other dragon...
aren't the wyrms mentioned in the Dragonfolly lore item to be of the same age as the fishrons?
real silo
Right right
untold oracle
Hiii lorers
scenic olive
Ark of The Ancients vs Ark of The Future
real silo
Ark of the contemporaries
scenic olive
Ark of the End
ionic kite
ark of yesterday
scenic olive
Ark of tomorrow
ionic kite
ark of the day before yesterday
scenic olive
ark of the weekend
split mortar
ark of the eel pit
scenic olive
what are the implication of ark of the ancients
Lore
Why do you need it to make ark of the cosmos
split mortar
Galaxia is the cosmos part
Ark is the ark part
sinful adder
There's a lot of things like that here
Kanna's moon lord gif, stupid player lore image...
split mortar
Yeah
split mortar
Yeah chat gets stinky at times
sinful adder
All the time
split mortar
There is times lore is discussed which is not stinky
split mortar
SSO will hopefully fix the chat for a bit
sinful adder
Yeah
split mortar
Until the lore has been discussed into oblivion then chat gets back into shitposting before the next update
Though that time where it’s not stinky will be great
mild hatch
Still, #lore-discussion is in a better state than Deltarune's fandom
mighty zenith
deltarune subreddit is actively losing its shit
latent bolt
which cal difficulty is the most accurate to cal lore
split mortar
expert rev hardcore
Not hardcore
split mortar
You could decide if revives canon iirc
mighty zenith
kills u
latent bolt
garbo saying hardcore is canon makes sense if we take into account respawning not being canon in base cal lore
mighty zenith
its hardcore by default 
split mortar
Don’t you in the end decide if it is or not canon
untold oracle
I wish we had things to talk about that aren't utter nonsense 24/7
Womp womp
untold oracle
Not hardcore
Well it kinda is
Draedon says he doesn’t want to lose you
Why would he be afraid of losing you if you’d just respawn
split mortar
Simple
He never saw us when we died or came back
split mortar
Yeah but who said it’s 24/7?
untold oracle
Me
split mortar
No you didn’t
untold oracle
Yuh uh
split mortar
YuH?
untold oracle
split mortar
I feel like the eidolon wyrms/auric dragons are in a bit of a weird place if we try to guess where they stand compared to bosses
Cause if a wyrm/auric dragon is quite equal to astrum deus then that would entail providence is not that much crazy strong compared to the average god
And if we go lower to like golem or the other bosses then the dragons don’t seem impressive at all
Wow like 1000 angry souls in a plant could probably kill the average legendary and mythic beings that were auric dragons
real silo
Clearly gluttony brought down the average by a lot
real silo
Idk
stark basalt
split mortar
pliant ruin
Kanna's moon lord gif, stupid player lore image...
Those are pretty harmless tbh
It's mostly the
straight up brainrot discussions
that are annoying
Like ppl will have full on discussions abt stupid crap
and its rly obnoxious
split mortar
Oh hey vetrasyl
split mortar
Like ppl will have full on discussions abt stupid crap
Like boss taste discussion
cosmic zenith
Don’t you in the end decide if it is or not canon
Respawning is, by default, not canon. It would break pre-established in-universe rules for how revival works and how rare/special it is.
Naturally, you're free to headcanon that your player respawns, but have fun turning that into a cohesive, engaging and logical narrative
split mortar
Which is ew
cosmic zenith
Hi!
split mortar
Yeah it is probably still best to not have revive headcanoned true even though we could
supple thunder
we don’t know how catastrophe and cataclysm died right
split mortar
We don’t know exactly what but we do know it’s cause of brim and scal fighting
split mortar
Well they were alive that’s what we know
Then scal and brimm destroyed the giant city they lived in and some
Then they’re dead
I feel like it kinda points to them being another name in the list of those that died in the fight
untold oracle
Were their names actually catastrophe and cataclysm
cosmic minnow
It’s a placeholder I think or whatever it’s called cuz I’m sure Calamitas name ain’t Calamitas actual name as well
untold oracle
I mean who names their children like that
untold oracle
It’s a placeholder I think or whatever it’s called cuz I’m sure Calamitas name a...
Eh I find calamitas good enough
split mortar
Calamitas is a moniker said by people who worked for yharim
cosmic minnow
Eh I find calamitas good enough
True
split mortar
So catastrophe and cataclysm are likely that aswell
supple thunder
Calamitas is a moniker said by people who worked for yharim
maybe the word calamity didn’t exist before and it was invented after they witnessed her power
like a calamity specifically refers to something on par with what she can do
mighty zenith
its not a placeholder, its more like a nickname
like how people gave nuclear bombs names
cosmic minnow
Ohhh
untold oracle
Lmao
split mortar
like a calamity specifically refers to something on par with what she can do
I can see it tbh
untold oracle
They saw calamitas’ power and were all like ”wow… truly a calamity…”
split mortar
-# wasn’t that also the case in old lore where her power and fear created the word calamity from association
real silo
Never heard of that
supple thunder
guess i’m an old lore writer now
stark basalt
I should be added as a boss in calamity
split mortar
Agreed
supple thunder
josh moonlordson?
split mortar
Yes
deft vessel
What is the deal with Signus being the envoy of the Devourer.
Does he like appear at the end of a war against a god an be like
deft vessel
”Have the preparations been made… The Devourer shall feast soon”
supple thunder
maybe he just plays Scourge of the Universe while DoG fights to boost his ego
split mortar
gonna be removed
Was it not already?
fallen quiver
Sorry if this is obvious but as the terrarian our goal is the fix the world right?
Because at a cursory glance it seems like yharim really screwed the pooch
untold oracle
Sorry if this is obvious but as the terrarian our goal is the fix the world righ...
Whatever here it is
fallen quiver
Ah bet
frank dune
Hello everyone
untold oracle
Hello alexey
Who sealed Ceaseless?
Was the seal always there or was it the cult that did it
untold oracle
Lunatic is the strongest one of them right?
mighty zenith
their leader but yea
untold oracle
So they are able to essentially create a seal that is more powerful than the leader itself
-# and also very frustrating
mighty zenith
if i had to guess it was a collective effort from the cult
also the cultists themselves are frail, their magic is potent
indigo glade
after seeing DoG fly out of there they said "fuck that" and sealed it
What?
That is never said.
indigo glade
Only thing we truly know of Ceaseless Void is that it is a permanent portal to the Distortion that the Dragon Cult found.
We don't even know if it was found sealed or not.
mighty zenith
ok yep i misremembered
cosmic zenith
It’s a placeholder I think or whatever it’s called cuz I’m sure Calamitas name a...
A moniker, not placeholder
untold oracle
Hi stip
cosmic zenith
Hi!
random mulch
might sketch some mech bosses that are more of an in-between stage of the bosses that they're based on and the exo mechs
untold oracle
Sounds good
fallen quiver
Is there a repository for the lore I can read or listen to
mighty zenith
first pin in the channel has a document containing all currently public lore
so go wild
faint plank
dusk laurel
might sketch some mech bosses that are more of an in-between stage of the bosses...
i like that idea
mighty zenith
i mean apparently he literally hurts himself to attack with his bullet hell
so yea i think it hurts him if he overdoes it
cloud ibex
He’s probably fire resistant to an extent
But yeah at some point it probably would start to hurt him
sinful adder
He takes damage when using that attack, in game
stark basalt
sinful adder
If you survive long enough, he'll kill himself with it
frank dune
8 hours
cloud ibex
If you survive long enough, he'll kill himself with it
Doesn’t he eventually leave himself at 1 hp
I don’t think he can actually kill himself fully with it
Though of course at that point a stray fart in his direction will instantly reduce him to ash
untold oracle
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
Hi kana
mighty zenith
Doesn’t he eventually leave himself at 1 hp
correct
which means you can kill yharon with one paper airplane
untold oracle
Wait does that mean Yharon is quite easy to kill with a copper shortsword if you can dodge
You don’t have to attack until the very last hp
cloud ibex
If you’re very patient yes
hushed geyser
sleek halo
i mean apparently he literally hurts himself to attack with his bullet hell
Well he literally
engulfs himself in flames
for an extended period of time
spring helm
Maybe the real calamity was inside us all along
untold oracle
But I like statis and braelor : (
untold oracle
Its the wonder of you
proceeds to crash a plane on you
mighty zenith
if a nerd had whatsapp...................
sleek halo
Goop
sleek halo
minimal damage
Honestly, out of everyone
(excluding Xeroc and Noxus)
He could probably last the longest being blasted by scals flames
excluding like
brimmy…
untold oracle
I think his feathers (or whatever they are) absorb/insulate heat
sleek halo
yeah
also his biology is naturally suited to extreme heat
considering he spews it
also woke up from it
hushed geyser
if a nerd had whatsapp...................
Silence nerd
hushed geyser
Ah crap the pfp is outdated now
13 iterations outdated
mighty zenith
Silence nerd
at least i dont give discord my money
sleek halo
also his biology is naturally suited to extreme heat
Tho he also just seems to have like
fire magic
mighty zenith
sleek halo
in general
sleek halo
in general
at least for now, idk what the rework will do to him lol
probably will still keep it
real silo
he gets lightning magic
mighty zenith
mmm delicis air
mighty zenith
what the fuck
spring helm
Why do you have that
mighty zenith
a beverage of sorts
hushed geyser
Why do you have that
Have what
spring helm
The drink
spring helm
dusk laurel
hushed geyser
sleek halo
ew..
wheat walrus
<:BURGERKIIING:1222404526854635540>
hushed geyser
dusk laurel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040415733374533675/1234552219173388390/3...
why is there a name of a vietnamese province there
wheat walrus
why is there a name of a vietnamese province there<:wires:1126556862070915214>
roblox players are like that
spring helm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040415733374533675/1234552219173388390/3...
What the fuck
sinful adder
Roblox and everything relating to it is garbage and shouldn't exist, this shouldn't be surprising
fierce pagoda
anyone who drops school for roblox doesnt have any buisness being in school at all
hushed geyser
Roblox and everything relating to it is garbage and shouldn't exist, this should...
Saying roblox shouldn't exist is funny
hushed geyser
Okay fun police
sinful adder
It's even worse than that. It is designed to exploit children to take money from other children, get them addicted to gambling, and on top of that, there's a ton of issues with people on there being pedophiles and preying on those same kids
hushed geyser
I could play 99% of the platform spending nothing
All gaming platforms are built to exploit in one way or another
sinful adder
The creators of the game know about all this and are complicit in it
No, they're really not
Gtfo
hushed geyser
No, they're really not
Name one
That doesn't
Or doesn't have exploitative games on it
sinful adder
Steam: sells products fairly. Known for banning scams.
GoG: requires all games sold on it to be DRM free
hushed geyser
Steam: sells products fairly. Known for banning scams.
GoG: requires all games ...
Steam has had a near monopoly for a decade
sleek halo
That’s not really the issue
hushed geyser
Eh
sinful adder
Steam has had a near monopoly for a decade
Good. It achieves this by simply being better than everyone else
hushed geyser
Good. It achieves this by simply being better than everyone else
THATS NOT GOOD
Monopolys aren't good
sleek halo
the issue with Roblox is it actively goes out of the way to exploit the creativity of kids
sleek halo
Monopolys aren't good
(Some are, but Steam as a monopoly isn’t great)
hushed geyser
the issue with Roblox is it actively goes out of the way to exploit the creativi...
I have never seen a kid try to make a game cus it's lowkey hard
sleek halo
I have never seen a kid try to make a game cus it's lowkey hard
I have seen multiple
and knew multiple
hushed geyser
You know weird people
Roblox dev ain't even worth it
I'm not saying roblox is a good platform cus I know for a fact it isn't
sinful adder
THATS NOT GOOD
In almost every case, yes. The key thing is that steam didn't become the biggest gaming platform by foul play, they simply made a better service than every competitor. They also aren't doing anything to stop others from competing with them. Everything they do is fair.
hushed geyser
Saying a monopoly is always good is hilarious to me
sinful adder
I did not say that
Stop lying
I say that a monopoly is bad, and steam does not have a monopoly. They have competitors, and are simply better than the competitors
hushed geyser
Enough with your gibberish