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What are these
And that humans don’t pull out the artificial sun bombs
i need context
People rambling about stories they making or made
i would do this too if i had anything

some time passes, and suddenly some robot asshole appears, decides that humans are all dickheads, and concludes that the only reasonable solution is to Extinguish The Sun (which as you can imagine would be problematic for Anyone Trying To Live In The Solar System)
mine are too new such that i haven't made them
I would rant about one my best friend has, but it’s late so I’ll rant tomorrow is lore is getting rowdy
but i forgot to write anything down
for context nobody really knows that the sun and moon gods actually exist, at least publicly
Uhhh
That’s not going to go great for everyone
the sun is vital,
Is being of technology
Wants to remove the tech goddess
Eh robot may have been made without the want to consider that
And likely doesn’t know they actually exist
the robot fails but if you're observant you may notice that trying to prune humans by killing literally everything is a bit illogical, especially for something like a robot which does things almost entirely based on logic
Ah
Robot related to moon deity I suppose
this is like RoR2 lore
Does this mean solar eclipses are just two sisters hugging
ror2 has lore?
yeah
Yes
the robot in question was an android designed for assassin work, but shenaniganery happened and it became free to do whatever it wanted
Doesn’t one guy really like worms and is the brother of mythrix?
Ah
i could not study that lore though too obscure
Wonder how it got free
There’s also the void dlc stuff
TRIANGLE???????? sorry
at first they just did whatever they could to survive, creating new forms for itself and such, but as time went on it developed a resentment for the humans who made them because it was basically a slave for a while, and although it could have been freed at any time it wasn't for several years
Yeah that may bring a lot of resentment I can see why
Why was slime god so weak
Weak dragon weak guy
I was wondering cuz well bro is able to make anythibg of slime
probably weak himself before ascension and the dragon was also weak
Weak dragon + weak guy = weak god
now the real culprit here behind the sun almost death incident is that the moon deity took this building resentment and manipulated them into building her a vessel she'd use to kill the sun
FUCKING GUESSED IT
she could in theory do it herself but she's a spiteful bastard who wanted to do it with the technology the sun goddess loved so much
waow
Waoaow
Eh we were given summaries it would prob be harder with the actual story in longer detail
Al4ight i have an idea
Instead of how would bosses taste like
We will talk aboyt which boss will make a good pet
Idk i am out of ideas
|=[
dessert scourge
deus.
dessert?
all the one that have a plushie
yummers
Yum
oh no
Id say yharon?
what have i doen
Storm weaver would be great pet imo
so that fails, but the moon basically goes "that's fine, run me back" because she has lived on such a scale of time that from her perspective she could blink and another opportunity to try again would arise
deus is friend-shaped
Deus too
leviathan
my idea is that the sun and the moon are opposites in both positives and negatives - progress and instability vs order and stagnation
is a dog
Primordial wyrm
i like the concept
interesting
Though dog is gonna be a horrible pet
PBG good pet
also one difference they have is the relationships they have with their highest followers
What if humankind achieved space travel, immortality, and seemingly magical technology.
Then they decide to attempt to merge all of mankind consciousness into a magical space mineral to achieve Unity
Whats the connection between night events and dog?
haven't watched

Like moons
basically evangelion
Eclipse
actually ive never watch evangelion
cat????
night
we are not addon talk
the moon's followers are pretty standard issue, but they also have kind of an academic element to them - you've got high-ranking Scholars that follow the moon in rigid ceremonies and rituals, as well as studying and following her "lectures"
meanwhile the sun's top dogs are like a middle ground between army generals and a chill friend group with an unspoken leader - she's essentially a god of war so you've got generals bantering and arguing with the High Commander over stupid shit that crosses their mind but they all unanimously agree that she's the one in charge
the Scholars are almost all snake people, with one exception (that's the Saint of Gardens)
he's the youngest of the Scholars, which also means that he's not quite in line with everything the moon says yet
but something went wrong and all the consciousness is seemingly lost in the process, resulting in a godlike entity that holds the entire knowledge of the human race, mashed and twisted not alive but can grow and spread like an living organism
does this still sound like evangelion
so when she starts to talk about causing widespread omnicide out of petty revenge, he can't bring himself to agree but he also can't bring himself to speak up because... well, she is a literal god
what the fuck stop killing me 😭
☹️
Omnicide
so he exiles himself, to which the moon responds by going "eh he'll come back"
she's more annoyed that all the plants in her temple start to die because the local gardener fucked off than she is that one of her most loyal followers thinks her plan is insane
yes
saint of gardens is a cool name
well the nickname reset was mostly cause i got bored of the old one but my display name always changes with my profile picture
all the scholars have different titles based on the academic field they specialize in that also dictates what jobs they do in the temple
this guy obviously does the gardening but for example there's a Saint of Libraries who catalogues and sorts books, maintains the library, helps people find books they're looking for etc.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am making the name for a new God
Have fun speculating what God it is, and what Gods would be fun to have in Calamity
old duke replacement 
i've advocated for a god/dragon of dreams way too much here already
so maybe a god of retribution could be cool concept
please i beg no dragon of dreams dont take this away from me
I cannot speak 
what happened
Is it the one that ate Vetrasyl

^
✅_ _
the gods might have wrath
we might need to hunt an old god
TYHANK GOD
you will invoke the wrath of the gods
well. Okay it wouldn't be taht big of a problem if it was dreams
but still...
rewriting stuff : (
is that why?
God I can't fucking wait for you to see what I'm writing
It's a strong Domain 
god of dreams?
Like, hy- hy- hyp- gunshots
Both
r we talking ab a god or a dragon here
Both are really fucking strong
what r we talking about
light
New God for project I'm making
night
The strongest one aside from Xeroc
did any gods ever attempt to side with yharim?
(And maybe Silva, they are like, somewhat tied I'd say)
the god of darkness
Pickle juice
the rocks they're in my lungs
doesnt death overlap with life
The overlapping is inconsistent
Tied with life means probably like... An element
Because, well

The World Soul didn't split into perfectly sized fragments
Interesting
Bitch

god of the strong nuclear force, consumed the auric soul of particle physics
or god
new gods
Tyrian is right there 
fights u
not currently known
That would probably be tyrian
that makes negative sense I feel
like if anything wouldn't darkness and light litterally be the exact opposite of overlapping
Dragon of water?
No, like they're exact opposites of each other, while life and death are not perfect opposites, they have slight differences I guess.
Light cannot exist without Darkness, and vice versa. They are opposites, yet intrinsically tied. They both cannot exist without the other.
Life could exist without death, but it would be weird
Well yes negative sense because switching from white to black is converting to a negative 
As much as they oppose each other, they also need the other
Death could not exist without life probably though
on a scale of 1-10
gonna become the joker
Why so serious
society....
the god of time
Again, Life and Death also fall on a similar category of Light and Darkness, but the shards of the World Soul didn't split in equal size for every Auric Soul
Life and Death could be a single Domain, but they were split
While Light and Darkness didn't
interesting
was there a god of regular light
God of lamp

is that true though?
if light did not exist in the world, we would be in the absence of light, which is darkness
likewise if light filled the entire world, to a point where there was no abscence of it, would it not be a world without darkness?
I still want to know why eclipses work the way they do. They're definitely related to primordial light
stars -> magic?
And what is the moon, besides what it's used for now?
Closer
feel like the god domain is magic
hte concept of darkness can only exist because the concept of light does
bc
god of space
something astral, cosmic related
magic god's been talked about as an idea here
god of gravity
unless its like

sob
gravity and space?
noxus but god
Yes, now which is which?
I think probably space -> gravity
why would it be that
gains the time part added on
And now I'm letting you debate which one is which
lmao
i thought of space a while ago
is it the force pushing u up or the geometry of space
all the fundamental forces are like that
nu
yes
the other 3 aren't geometric
No it isn't
they're vector fields
fiiieeeelds
More accurately
the other 3 r described using vectors
gravity needs 4x4 matrices/tensors to describe
Physicists have two different sets of equations that are extremely good at describing different aspects of the universe but do so in fundamentally different ways that can't be combined
also space/gravity seems quite a bit more cosmic than the rest of the domains
like significantly more so
(why is xeroc stronger
maybe they didn't train as much as xeroc
Calamity cosmology is different
Space would include all the astral and magical stuff, gravity would be a specific aspect of that
So I think it's god of gravity and dragon of space/cosmos/celestials
But I could be wrong
im p sure space is literal
bc otherwise
i immediately lose suspension of disbelief if the god of the cosmos is weaker than xeroc no matter how different cal's cosmology is
the god of basically everything
shouldn't be weaker than xeroc
so i think space is meant in the more literal geometric way
the domain becoming or coming from gravity makes sense too then
but what if they trained less than xeroc
Do remember Domains don't come free with the most overpowered shit there is in it
its a matter of sheer quantity
Either way, if you're wondering yeah
space is either infinite or unimagineably vast
xeroc and the sun r nothing
"Everything that exists outside of Earth"
if this was true i highly doubt Fovos would have been able to Moon-Lord the dragons
what does tht mean

we should call fovos ml bc everyone gets confused when ppl call ml fovos
my mistake original gangster
-# fovos is the lord of the moon
"I cannot let you live, Terrarian. Your very existence brings about Calamity."
You should really go to sleep
so like
this?
possibly
yes
ok so i think it'd actually go harder if instead of gravity the god/dragon were geometry
that's more general and includes gravity
and is also less obvious and allows for more creativity in how the critter operates
bro does funnies to ur topology
you fight the god of geometry and he turns you into an oblong
he adds another hole to ur body
on ur heart
heart gone
or she
@spare pier wut gender r the dragon and god
She/her, They/them
okii
Respectively
based
maybe yharim was right
b
so violent...
b

i had a question in my mind at church and i forgot it
now all i know is that i need to know something but i dont know what

Anyways now that you know this
Think about it
What could I possibly use the strongest God behind Xeroc for?
That, I'm not going to answer nor give tips
UPSCALING YHARIM HE 1V1 THEIR ASS
ok so basically
actually
what if xeroc and this creature r friends
is the god still alive or nah
Is the god the god of gravity
and like
we dont know
please geometry goes harder than gravity
for sure
i will eat u ppl
You mean that you prefer Gravity to be described as geometry...?
nu
the domain is geometry rather than gravity
that's what azzy means
i mean the more general domain of geometry still includes gravity and allows for more creativity in how the domain is used
Gravity and Geometry r both weird physics things that end in Y so they're about th3 same to me
more flexible domain
(I do not know anything aboyt physica

me neither i just pretend
based
I get that but it'd be confusing for people reading it
Yay pat
photons have no mass becuase i can't weigh them when they stop
i math so i am forced to know physics
🤷♂️
against my will
And also feels like a DC comics villain's power and I hate them so 
Sad
i'd take a physics class to satisfy my curiosity but that shit's $500 per semester
devours u whole
fair
Dr Geometry
Azzy the Devourer of Rebecca
Tho it's more a matter of readability
Doc Geo
It's easier for people to understand someone's power as gravity/space rather than
Geometry
there's also not a lot u can do with gravity as a domain beyond like
moving things around
unless u include time dilation but that needs a whole lot of gravity
unless the critter controls like the entire planet's gravity
they throw a black hole at you
in which case how is xeroc stronger ?
that's seems too op for calamity tbh
yeah
Not even xeroc can control things on a planet level i dont think
God of Time (It's literally just the time ripper from limbus)
A tad stronger than Yharon, possibly? But not quite up there with Calamitas and Exos
now im imagining this scene
how big is the gap between xeroc and yharim
i clicked enter before i got the image
Big
hold on
Really big
where's noxus and ml in that gap
Dunno
Like, SCal and Exos is the point where I say
I remember tht 1 post
"We are not making any characters ever be stronger than them"
That made ML and Xeroc sorta close
And Noxus a good bit bellow
And Yharom way bellow
Tharim*
Yjarim*
Yharim*
I think if there is a character stronger or even on the same level as them it cheapens the narrative and just makes it look like they replaced a spot in the power scale
Idk 
this?
They have reached a level before unseen
Ya that
I mean I think Cei is insane for that one but yeah
Power levels are a shitty ass metric of power level anyways
and that too
I assume that was entirely her intention 

bwa
On a scale of 1 to 100 where 1 is the Guide and 100 is Xeroc
@visual kiln
It does kinda look like "bullshit but kinda vaguely correct"
rank everything on this scale iirc
discrete power levels suck in my opinion
wtf
Cal is like, a 70, Yharim is an 80, Noxus is an 85, Moon Lord is a 90
that gap is way smaller than cei's
Actually I'm not satisfied with that
tbh i think nox being 90 and ml being 95 works better kinda
like holy shit xeroc could is stronger than everyone combined here
That doesn't sound like a linear measurement
No, then Xeroc and ML are too close
So, now we got some name options for the God of Space
You can have a system where the relative difference between 1 and 90 is the same as 90 and 100
And I think they're pretty cool all things considered
Oh. So now it's confirmed that the dragon is the dragon of gravity
Reb, do you think we should ask these guys what they think of the options
And for the sake of leaving you to speculate, I won't be saying anything else 
We didn't know that yet 🙂
Well ok shoot the names
Why are we shooting the names
Shooting hurts you know

wdym
(I jest, go on)
I think it's innacurate
The gap between SCal and Yharim is not as big as the gap between Yharim and ML
Scaling shit like that sucks ass anyways
I was under the impression that yharim, Scal, the exo mechs, primordial wyrm all combined couldn't beat Fovos (original)
- Aibrandos
- Callendron
- Shakidou
- Shakuten
- Shamuanna
- Laivros
- Livrankara
- Ankimedos
- Ligrashar
- Nikkina
- Utenmoda
Which names do you guys prefer?
i like Ankimedos
And yes, each one has inspirations and meanings I probably won't reveal
My pick is on Shakidou, if you're wondering
My pick is either Shakidou or Shakuten
damn im the odd one out
For who? :0
New God of Space
Space God, dude for something I'm writing
To break out of my Ancient Greece obsession, this time I actually used Sumerian names as inspiration!
I'm gonna go take a shower, will see what's y'all opinions on this later
well
can xeroc control the planck constant of a given thing

lore chatters which chat do i go to if i want to brag about beating Aquatic scourge pre hardmode with only yoyos
i only use this chat
To #calamity-mod-talk with thee
alas the only place is cmt
thank you
that doesn't fall within the domain of light so no
That said, "Callendron" is Cassiopeia + Andromeda 
good to know (i only know what the planck constant is because of an scp i read 2 years ago
)
But "Shakidou", for example, is Shamash (a Sumerian deity) + "anki" ("universe")
i like shaikidou
something something imma shamash yo mama 2nite
good luck stealing something that doesnt exist
i'm stealing your money
good luck stealing something that doesnt exist
Shut up stepson
HUH


That is much larger than I intended woah
Anyway
I like Shakidou
Aidos 
Well
He's getting a proper in-game name/title because something something Old Duke stinky
So does that mean Jared is canon


Not yet
What about leviathan
Leviathan will remain Leviathan
We're gonna change "Old Duke" to something else
im saving that
super fishron
It's over Anathan, I have the high ground
doesnt matter my character at endgame is stronger..........,..
the other fishrons probably call him like "The Old Man who kills"
Reeking Shinryu 
Stinkyu
🔥✍️
isn't shinryu like one of options
Yes, it's one
Seabominations
why did i immediately think scp 106
Farer
Lavog :cluebed:

totally not another eden brainrotting 

Duke but infected by crimson
Evil versions of every boss when
i remember the question i had
Ask away then
I feel like
why does statis have accessory for summon
Old Duke should be able to use Magic
why is it so hard to kill Duke when hes old and rotting
yeah he's a ninja isnt he?
He trained at the beach that makes you old
exactly
Evil Duke Fishron
old duke's no longer a duke fishron clone 🙏
Ok that's
Literally just a pigron
Devious
evil old duke be like "i will be an original boss concept"
that looks even more like DF
~~That makes it look more like duke ~~

🤩
what if old duke died
please put it out of its misery
misery?
it doesn't deserve this hell
it deserves it
Oh the misery
Life support Duke
for what it's done
Hmm the dukes here are made of dukes
At triangle put a large blunt in od’s resprite
bludski's depressed rn
did i hear Evil Ravager
Corruption Ravager
Evil Ravager be like: "I won't destroy everything around me."
I think people are too harsh on Old Duke tbh
no its deserved
its literally
duke fishron but older
I'm not going to defend the current design, but like, everything else is neat to me
no matter how good the fight is visually its duke fishron but old
It's just a really old Fishron from the Sulphurous Sea
the design is the only part that i dislike
yes aza thats why old duke is getting resprited to not be literally duke fishron but old
ik
I never minded the "duke but old" thing personally but I do see why people dislike it
You really should
I think there is just such this absolute hatred and vitriol towards Old Duke for
Go eep
old people power
People act like Old Duke killed their grandma sometimes and it pisses me off
old duke killed my oc's family
tbh i think that's mainly because fab kinda just dropped old duke in with 0 discussion and caldevs didn't rlly like that and talked about not liking that in a lot of places
Aza go sleep or uhhhhh
Shit I dunno what I could say to get you to sleep
And that's wrong but we're not getting into that here
go to sleep or the greek hero polycules will kill you to death with hatchets
My main issue with OD was that it just felt really uninspired at the time, design wise as said before
im going to sleep with ur mom
Fight wise I actually love OD I’m not gonna lie for a sec
yeah no as a fight old duke is extremely good
fight wise od is actually an extremely solid bossfight
And yeah that’s getting changed now
Calsad
it gives me rlly old terraria modding vibes
everything was a clone of a vanilla boss
no one had original ideas
Mhmm
Sun Lord
Starstruck reaction
Old Duke's only problem is prediction, which is not a problem with prediction itself
then we slowly grew out of that
Rather, it's that Old Duke is the only Boss where predictive attacks are truly a thing
man i wanted to say something about exxo avalon not being that but then i remembered their evil biome boss atm is exactly a copy of boc
its an ancient mod
yea
People had a really weird hate boner for OD's predictive dashes
so it makes sense a lot of the content is dated
which is in the process of changing
because yea
the port is being worked on
Would the xenomite infection be superior to the astral infection?
starlight river n ancients awakened n calamity n all the funny mods did innovating
I always kinda liked them….
Like I’m sure they were overturned at some point but
Idk figuring them out felt like a puzzle that was fun to solve
starlight river's probably not gonna last long tbh its sitting on an extremely shaky foundation code wise
its a prototype
hard to say
whats the xenomite infection
Mod of Redemption thing
indeed
thing from mod of redemption ye
An infection from a crystal
hi halm
That thrives in radiation
oh hi halmska
Did not expect to see that tonight
we have 6 mutuals wtf
I see hallam like daily
Zamn did you get like summoned or something lmao
is that halme
win
friends u
creator of MoR is here?

cool
i should play mor
i havent played mor in ages
I need to play mor


But the issue is that requires opening tmod
im ngl im just kinda waiting for 0.8 to fully release (has it fully released idek
Fear
With your level of connections I'm genuinely surprised you two weren't discord friends already
is azzy part of some tmod mafia
Fairly sure yes
Aza is everywhere
probably
yet you still have connections with basically every mod in existence
i was in calart for like a few months around the time 22 happened

then before that i was a tmod critter up until ancients awakened got alphakip'd
im like god
or jesus
remember: aza is in college
Traces of aza can be found dating back to before the dragon era
dang
aza is almost as old as merkalto
altraxia ur everywhere too how r we not friended
surely not as old as me
absorbs u into my biomass
I don't friend people
fair
Uh
i sent a friend req
clarified mod.
Can we talk about xenomite infection vs astral infection yet...
ngl i dont remember like anything about xenomite
what's that 
It's green
i remember patient zero and green
halmska god of rainbows tell us what xenomite is capable of 🙏
green vs perpule
purple is a better colour than green (objectively) so astral wins i think
woah
Damn halms has no bias
what's xenomite lore
world peace is a thing
They merge together to form starlite infection

halmska is a peaceful diety
astromite
last i remember reading it was like
extradimensional stuff i think
xenal?
xenomite infected astral
funguspilled crystals that infect living things
its been absolutely ages since i caught up with mor lore so im probably spweing bullshit
yes
I love when xenomite said it's xenomiting time and xenomited all over nebuleus
ok so astral and xenomite can be mixed
and do things
make a superior infection
but i remember at one point eye of infection (was that its name???) was from another dimension
the astralmite infection...
Can mod of redemption add a new boss called Evil Mole
murder
Hi chesed
why's evil mole
hi chease
Hii
hai cheese
how evil...
Blue infection....
i JAYWALK
i think a mole critter would be funny to have
and EVADE TAXES
"only makes blue in-"
How bizarre
and COMMIT INSURANCE FRAUD
thats not evil thats what we in the industry like to call based
Aza did you go to sleep yet
aza take your meds
The sleep deprivation is showing
nuh
HIT MAXES
EVADE TAXES
Green and purple make brown or grey or dull gross purple
Everyone thinks they're strong until they get hit with hallucinations from lack of sleep
Trust me
Would make for an interesting infection
i love grurple
I'm afraid in a few more hours you'll begin making typos, then the symptoms will worsen until the messages are illegible to all but other sleep-deprived patients
its 3:27am for me
jesus christ go to sleep
I once slept for one hour total
perhaps
Unintelligibke
it's showing already
no
The hallucinations fucked me up
Unintell8gi
Insomnia lore
its already beginning
u are stronger than this
go to bed
avoid sleep
Unintelligent
the creatures
the duality of man
they will take u
Im already in bed :(
It started out as just a Duke skin for the Sulphurous Sea afaik, and then was scopecrept into a boss
So uh, don't make boss skins, kids
if ur asleep
but we have triangle design now
that's a win in my books
it only took multiple years
The creatures can't penetrate el blankette
Evil-2 exists because they were meant to be a corruption-skinned BoC and a crimson-skinned EoW, after all
the blanket is sacred
It is an unbreakable defense
Yeah, I think we managed to get really cool stuff out of it
How insane
if you leave your feet uncovered the Thingies will come for you
if OD weapons will be meant for yharon
whos calamity and what's their lore
will he be pre-DoG
How many moonburn sounds does it have
or no
Did all of you provide feedback on the God of Space name?
Huh?
I wouldn't know
But it's cool as fuck
There's a god of space?
i like skaikidou or whatever it said
i stand by Lavog or Kaputnik
shaikidou
.
now i remember
neither of those were options but another eden brainrot :D
sumeria
We're making one for a lore entry Reb wants to do
Nothing major like Providence or GoS
I'm sorry but Kaputnik sounds like a cartoon villain
Livrankara
i vibe with Livrankara extremely hard
NVM KAPUTNIK
PLEASE
I like shakuten
Kaputnik
shakidou
so fun fact
its the hardest ranked superboss in another eden
because I like saying hyakuten and shakuten sounds similar
What the fuck kinda dragon did he eat though
shakuten is good too
gravity iirc
"Shakuten" is Shamash (sumerian deity of sun and justice) + "uten" (universe)
But it was also inspired by Zohakuten from Demon Slayer
or flip-flopped
Damn
Hantengu's names go so hard
stip why does Statis have summon accessories
did he dual class
he summoned braelor
He won't have anymore 👍
guh
will it be reworked
It is now silva's curse 
or replaced/removed
sorry summon fans, looks like i just got it deleted
Nomon's Curse
no more nucleogenesis
void sash is cool tho
I'VE SEEN THIS TRICK BEFORE
I WON'T FALL FOR IT
How long has it been

so they're getting renamed?
just say it.
I made it up
@cinder adder do u know who nomon is
Daring today aren't we
no i dont no who nomon is
nomon deez nuts
halmska I'm sorry
lmao
Since the draconic era
nomon is the god of sin
nomon is the dragon of the world
ZA WARUDO
he holds the world soul
what's a dragon
@visual kiln stop being MEAN,,,

Start being bean
no one answer this.
give me lore for this pumpkin before i sleep

dragon nuts hi I'm nuts hello nuts
think of it like a bedtime story
he is the head of the headless horseman
This is canon
it is true

I declare it so
Good god it's been almost a year
you are a catalsyt of deception
a god of trickery
left kidney of the forbidden one
yes

A WHAT
a WHAT of deception

ok waltuh ill kill your dragon

i'll kill all the gods and dragons

imo

