lore-discussion

[cold owl]

And even then Xeroc is FAR stronger than Silva even if both had a perfect ascension.

[stark basalt]

Not at all

[cold owl]

Not even close

[keen hull]

FAR behind

[brittle chasm]

then yharim wouldn't have beat her up?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[brittle chasm]

hmm

[split mortar]

Yharim, yharon and his entire army at its peak would get obliterated

[brittle chasm]

so yharim fail in killing all gods

[cold owl]

Xeroc is about as a strong as you can possibly get in the cal universe meaning he is LITERALLY the peak of the universe

[split mortar]

Yeah, though he did kill 99.9% of them

[brittle chasm]

why did xeroc not intervene

[split mortar]

Dev statements but yea^

[brittle chasm]

busy with outer threats?

[split mortar]

Why would he

[brittle chasm]

i thought he was like protector

[split mortar]

That not confirmed but likely

[cold owl]

It's a common theory

[brittle chasm]

oh

[split mortar]

Even then, it’s the planet being the planet

[brittle chasm]

maybe he's like retired or smthn

bro just wanna chill

[dusk laurel]

nah

[split mortar]

Why stop the planet doing as it does when you could try to stop noxus

[dusk laurel]

he kind of dipped

[brittle chasm]

deadbeat?

[dusk laurel]

to go after space threats

[calm patio]

no

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

Mango leaked xeroc may be hunting Noxus in the distortion

[brittle chasm]

i got it right!!

[split mortar]

Hence why he is gone

[keen hull]

Back to reason why I start this topic.

Any idea, guys?

[dusk laurel]

yharim's fight

will be melee

[calm patio]

yharon wont be in the fight

[split mortar]

I can see it, though i doubt it would be ranged

Yharim a true melee

[brittle chasm]

who is noxus?

[cold owl]

The only reason Xeroc comes back to Terraria is because he is intrigued on how a mortal (us) got the terminus from the abyss.

[brittle chasm]

i know he is in wrath of the gods but that's not cannon, right?

[split mortar]

We know like two or three things about them, we don’t really know

[calm patio]

noxus will be changed in wrath of the gods

and noxus in that mod isnt canon

[split mortar]

Yeah wotg noxus isn’t canon

[calm patio]

all addons arent canon

[cold owl]

Very likely DoG's master (The malevolence from far beyond)

[split mortar]

Dogs boss
Created ceaseless
Isn’t a god

[keen hull]

I imagine him fight us with sword coated with draconic flame

[dusk laurel]

noxus in WotG will be changed to Avatar of Emptiness

[split mortar]

^

[keen hull]

Yeah, I know. He died

[brittle chasm]

Noxus, ceaseless void, DoG, Signus
all same faction?

[split mortar]

Ye

[cold owl]

Storm weaver too

[brittle chasm]

from like outer dimension?

oo

[dusk laurel]

distortion

[split mortar]

^

[brittle chasm]

we killed him

[cold owl]

He'll come back eventually but Yharim will be long dead

[split mortar]

Storm weaver may have escaped a theoretical hivemind in the distortion

[keen hull]

Isn't everyone know that? 👀

[split mortar]

Yup

[brittle chasm]

but i didn't wanna kill him

[dusk laurel]

why

[brittle chasm]

his soundtrack so sad

[split mortar]

Yharon is needed in low percent

He is one of the few mandatory bosses

[dusk laurel]

yharpaganda strikes again

[brittle chasm]

yes

[cold owl]

Do we have an idea on around what time Yharon died (I would assume grey period)

[brittle chasm]

dm dokuro is best yharpagandist

[dusk laurel]

ehhh

[split mortar]

Probably shortly after xeroc ascended imo

[brittle chasm]

he convince me

[cold owl]

So the start of the grey period basically

[dusk laurel]

yharon's egg was around for yharim

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

and gray period was like hundreds of years earlier

[brittle chasm]

grey period?

in that when yharim started his shenanigans

[split mortar]

Between dragon era and god era

[brittle chasm]

ohh

[split mortar]

No that’s the crusade

[cold owl]

I have a pick of the era's somewhere

[keen hull]

I have some weird idea.

What if yharim gain yharon's rebirth power via soul attunement. But, incomplete?

[cold owl]

and their dates

[dusk laurel]

the dates

aren't canon

we have only draedon dates to go off of

[brittle chasm]

no dates in calamity

[dusk laurel]

and none are of the eras

[stark basalt]

Give him the infernum yharon p2 treatment 🗣️

[brittle chasm]

terrarian single forever

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Dragon era ended around 1000 iirc
We are 1880 ish

[split mortar]

:)

[calm patio]

No.

[stark basalt]

My terrarian (and me) absolutely ate up all of the yharpaganda

[split mortar]

Only in master mode

[keen hull]

As yharon become egg on his rebirth, what if yharim get reincarnated? 👀

[brittle chasm]

make happy mech family with draedon and build vacation home on sulfuric beach

[dusk laurel]

You disgust me.

[split mortar]

I don’t think a embryo will last long without being inside anything

[brittle chasm]

whas wrong

[dusk laurel]

leave the guy alone

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggy-jump-bite-rah-gif-16579809368338670257

[brittle chasm]

draedon?

[dusk laurel]

yes.

[brittle chasm]

i just wanna build mechs

[dusk laurel]

these are theorized

[cold owl]

This was before dreatalk however

[stark basalt]

"The calamity"

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[dusk laurel]

also the dates are for real life counterparts

[cold owl]

the only ones to pay attention to are the middle ones'

[brittle chasm]

terassic park

[keen hull]

Yharon also become embryo, but he got egg to cover him.

[cold owl]

It's just he names of the timelines(Calamity is a theorized as stated in the image)

[split mortar]

The yhar

[brittle chasm]

lmao

[stark basalt]

Not anymore, the calamity is now the canon name for all in-game events

Source: my dad is John Calamity

[split mortar]

Yeah and humans don’t get a egg when being born, and I doubt rebirth will materialise a pregnant woman for yharim to be reborn

[dusk laurel]

well

we don't have eggs with shellls

[brittle chasm]

well this is magic world

[calm patio]

yharim will be dead, shrimple as that

[brittle chasm]

i think human can be born from egg

why not

we can magic

[keen hull]

Got it.

[dusk laurel]

there is a severe lack of biological knowledge here

[brittle chasm]

dead yharim

rip

[dusk laurel]

well, ig it's more anatomical

[brittle chasm]

will draedon die by the end?

[split mortar]

No

[dusk laurel]

no

[brittle chasm]

yippeee

[split mortar]

He is about as immortal as a elemental

[stark basalt]

I don't think he can die

[brittle chasm]

does he have like backups

[split mortar]

Yeah

Across the world

[brittle chasm]

liker revenant from apex

[magic epoch]

He easily has over 100

[split mortar]

You would need to quickly destroy the entire crust of the planet to kill him

[brittle chasm]

little did u know he has one on the moon

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

He doesn’t

[brittle chasm]

lol

[magic epoch]

guys

guys

[brittle chasm]

why not tho

[dusk laurel]

moonlord is why he hasn't gone onto the moon

but we killed it

[magic epoch]

i think they were being sarcastic

[brittle chasm]

didn't we kill it

[split mortar]

He never even considered going to the moon due to moonlord

[dusk laurel]

yes

[split mortar]

Until we killed fovos

[brittle chasm]

yes but after

[split mortar]

3 am mind

[brittle chasm]

can't he do stuff there now

[dusk laurel]

that's why draedong is planning space travel

[brittle chasm]

or is he too busy

[magic epoch]

god forbid a man girl bosses in this society

[cold owl]

IF Yharon died around 1037 and rebirthed June 19th 1781. That's means Yharon took AROUND 744 years to rebirth.

[split mortar]

He can’t get to the moon easily yet, need wireless long range teleportation for that

[brittle chasm]

mirl boss

[dusk laurel]

no.

[brittle chasm]

why no spaceship?

[dusk laurel]

yharon takes a decade to rebirth

[split mortar]

It takes a decade per revive, he either dies many times or died recently before meeting yharim

[brittle chasm]

will yharon come back for revenge in 10 years then

or is he perma dead now

[cold owl]

So the gods spawn camped him nice

[pliant ruin]

he'll come back

[split mortar]

We will have shadowspec gear and he will be fetus

[pliant ruin]

eventually

[brittle chasm]

find new yharpaganda successor

[split mortar]

He coming back, the soul fragments were basically nothing to him

[brittle chasm]

yharom

yhamicheal

[split mortar]

Litteral coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[cold owl]

Holds a fraction of his auric soul but enough to fool auric so you can atleast use some of it's power.

[stark basalt]

wait, is shadowspec canon?

[brittle chasm]

does drae have shadow spec too

[split mortar]

No

[cold owl]

no

[stark basalt]

o

[brittle chasm]

awhh

[stark basalt]

oki

[split mortar]

But it will be post yharim when he comes out

Demonshade is canon though

[brittle chasm]

yayyy

[stark basalt]

My beloved voidragon is NOT real

[split mortar]

(Getting changed to post scal armour)

[pliant ruin]

demonshade armor will be made with ashes of calamity when it gets reworked i think

[cold owl]

Exo will probably replace shadowspec armor in progression right?

[pliant ruin]

not ashes of calamity

my bad

anihilation

the ones scal drops

[split mortar]

Exo is equal to scal

[pliant ruin]

exo, auric and demonshade will all b equal as the endgame armorsets

and shadowspec will come postgame

[split mortar]

Yharim will give access to shadowspec somehow

[pliant ruin]

he'll drop yhar ore

which you'll can amke in Yhar Im(gots)

[brittle chasm]

i wanna see exo armor

[split mortar]

The yhapping

[brittle chasm]

also what is wulfrum

who makes them

[split mortar]

There are leaks somewhere for it

[sinful adder]

I had an idea that would work for a weapon

[cold owl]

There's leaks

[split mortar]

John wulfrum (we don’t know)

[cold owl]

Yea

[sinful adder]

Blood explosion spell
Makes enemies blood explode

[brittle chasm]

i mean it looks a bit like draedon stuff

maybe they're like

[split mortar]

Robots designed to stub the toes of yharims soldiers basically

[brittle chasm]

little drae bots

[split mortar]

Nope

[brittle chasm]

awh

[split mortar]

Wulfrum stuff are against yharim

[cold owl]

Wulfrum is considered pretty primitive tech in Cal

well not primitive but not too advanced

[sinful adder]

Anyways, Yhar ore is just auric. It would be called Yharonium if it was invented any earlier

[pliant ruin]

john wulfrum

[split mortar]

Eh, the tech is advanced as fuck but it’s horrible on what materials was used to make it

[pliant ruin]

dont forget that draedon bars used to be a thing and i think thats hilarious

[dusk laurel]

john fargo

[brittle chasm]

draedon dissaproves

[split mortar]

Perennial bars right?

[pliant ruin]

yup

[brittle chasm]

also what does draedon hate the name of

[pliant ruin]

also. ah. yes

xeroc armor

(early post ml rogue set)

truly.

[split mortar]

Uncreative and not accurate

[brittle chasm]

what is

[cold owl]

The names you give the mech bosses

[stark basalt]

Miracle Matter

[brittle chasm]

exo mech?

[split mortar]

Skeletron prime and miracle matter

[cold owl]

Skeletron prime and others

[brittle chasm]

lolll

[split mortar]

He hates those names we gave them

[pliant ruin]

the destoyerrrrrrrrr

[brittle chasm]

what kinda names does he like

[split mortar]

He probably gives us the Exo mech names so he doesn’t have Skeletron neo for ares

[stark basalt]

XS-01 ARTEMIS 🤑

[pliant ruin]

it'd be like

[brittle chasm]

elon musk son kinda names

[pliant ruin]

skeletron neo
the obliterator
the gemini

[cold owl]

Draedon seems to hate Skeletron Prime even more than the others lmao

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sinful adder]

Skeletron neo. Hilarious.

[split mortar]

He hates Skeletron prime

[dusk laurel]

draedon prime

[stark basalt]

😭

[split mortar]

Fovos prime

[stark basalt]

Miracle Matter PRIME

[pliant ruin]

ok library of ruina has installed

[sinful adder]

He probably hates them because the names are strictly based on our personal experience, which is entirely circumstantial, instead of some objective description

[pliant ruin]

goodbye i need to indulge in project moon autism now

[brittle chasm]

HM-03, HSx-00, HSy-01, and HF-04
what does the stuff stand for

[split mortar]

Yay

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-3d-blender-physics-rigid-body-gif-16385047004213889853

[cold owl]

Dradeon likes letters and numbers for names

[dusk laurel]

farewell, 🧀

[brittle chasm]

i mean the destroyer does destroy

[sinful adder]

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-deltarune-undertale-mrbeast-big-shot-gif-27614738

[split mortar]

The letters are the number of iterations each mech had iirc

[sinful adder]

Neo mechs

[split mortar]

Die

[brittle chasm]

logical

[dusk laurel]

skeletron prime mk2 ultra plus omega deluxe

[cold owl]

He prefers HM-03

[brittle chasm]

what does HM stand for

[split mortar]

Hardmode?

Idk

[brittle chasm]

lol

[dusk laurel]

hallow

mechanical

iirc

[brittle chasm]

ohh

[split mortar]

Ah

Makes sense

[dusk laurel]

xm is exo mechanical

wait no

the 2nd letter is for the soul

[brittle chasm]

wb HF and HS

[stark basalt]

The H I have no idea, F is for Fright, S is for Sight and M is for Might, and the numbers are the model of the mechs I think

[keen hull]

I think F S M refer to Fright, Sight, and Might

[brittle chasm]

ahh

[dusk laurel]

hallow might, sight and freight

[split mortar]

Hallow for h

[brittle chasm]

drae likes rhymes

[split mortar]

^

[keen hull]

X may refer to Exo but for H, Idk

[dusk laurel]

hallow

x is exotic

[brittle chasm]

well they use hallow metal so

[split mortar]

Hallow or hallowed

[keen hull]

Now I know that Yharim will just die in the end

But logic aside.

If yharim was reborn due to yharon's ability he partly gain via soul attunement, but as different person and without past memory.

When yharon find new yharim, What will he do? Will he told his old friend about their past life or try to be friend again? Or just let new yharim go as that person isn't his friend anymore.

[brittle chasm]

draemascus steel

[keen hull]

I think it's interesting to think about

[brittle chasm]

reincarnated yharim

huh

[keen hull]

Base on when he told yharim about draconic era on their first met

[stark basalt]

La creatura

[keen hull]

Just like that

[cold owl]

The interesting question to me is how much would Yharim change is ways. (Obviously he wouldn't change the whole god seeking part)

He would def not change much but he does regret some of his actions (atleast he says he does)

[split mortar]

Statis,braelor and silva concept art

[keen hull]

In this scenario, he become entirely different person after reincarnated.

[brittle chasm]

who is Statis and braelor?

[cold owl]

Ya but what if he doesn't and rebirths like Yharon and remembers everything.

[brittle chasm]

statis i know they have a lot of acessories with their name

[split mortar]

The gays

Statis is champion of slime gif

[tall delta]

he is probably at neutral good category

[split mortar]

Braelor is champion of silva

[brittle chasm]

slime gif?

[tall delta]

He solves problems yeah but not all problems

[split mortar]

Slime god

[brittle chasm]

oh

[split mortar]

Together they nearly killed yharim before dog snuck on them

[brittle chasm]

slime god is still alive?

[cold owl]

Statis was part of the Onxy Kinsmen ( a clan of ninja's who worshipped beings like Signus and Slime God) until his Yharim killed his clan. Braelor is Silva's champion who is currently trapped in the distortion.

[split mortar]

Unless you kill queen slime then slime god lives longer

[stark basalt]

We killed it

[brittle chasm]

ah

[split mortar]

Statis and braelor canonically gay

[stark basalt]

yes

[brittle chasm]

will they be npc?

[cold owl]

Yes

[brittle chasm]

or only lore char

oooo

[keen hull]

I agree that he wouldn't change much if he retain his memory

What I wanna focus is people around him in his past life. What will they do if yharim isn't yharim anymore, especially yharon.

[high lynx]

Lets freaking go

[brittle chasm]

do we have items named after braelor yet

i haven't heard that name in game

[cold owl]

Would they know Yharim is Yharim

If yes, his enemies and everyone he hurt would jump him

[high lynx]

We have a few things that reference him

[brittle chasm]

u finish minigolf?

[high lynx]

Yeah

[brittle chasm]

so fast

[split mortar]

Hope you experienced it

[high lynx]

I did

[brittle chasm]

minigolf speedrun

[split mortar]

Incomprehensible

[high lynx]

Is it exo tech or miracle matter that was melded similarly to braelors axe

[split mortar]

It was Thanatos shell

[high lynx]

Or draedon forge

[high lynx]

Thanks

[split mortar]

So none

[unreal belfry]

braelor wearing silva armor in new lore is kinda funny because it doesn look any different than tarragon armor but at least it makes more sense

or am i wrong

[split mortar]

Tarragon is getting replaced by profaned ore

[unreal belfry]

i mean yeah i Do know that

[split mortar]

So it will be different eventually

[keen hull]

Yharon probably know, if their soul still attune to each other

[brittle chasm]

yharim and yharon best friends foever

[unreal belfry]

just talking about how like. old lore braelor used tarragon armor
but now he uses silva armor
but silva armor now looks like tarragon armor

in the lore

[split mortar]

Ye it funny

[cold owl]

I think the only reason Yharon said "farewell" to Yharim is because he wasn't going to rebirth before Yharim dies. I don't think their relationship has deteriorated.

[high lynx]

Well tarragon might not exist in layer update?

[brittle chasm]

lol

[dusk laurel]

tarragon is getting replaced too

with profaned armorset

[unreal belfry]

itll become profaned armor

which makes sense

[cold owl]

Lore chat gonna go crazy when SSO comes out

[high lynx]

Yeah so silva armor is tarragon presumably

[high lynx]

Peak

[split mortar]

It’s 3:35 am I go sleep bye have a experience

[unreal belfry]

providence: pugh i got defeated time to spread Tree Ore across the planet

[brittle chasm]

knowing that yharon can rebirth makes his sacrifice a lot less admirable tbh

bro just come back in 10 years

[tall delta]

If there is silva armor where is the xeroc armor

[high lynx]

Night

[high lynx]

On him

[dusk laurel]

goodbye.

💥

[cold owl]

He did sacrifice his remaining time with Yharim.

The only person Yharon probably cares about.

[high lynx]

The enemy ascended beyond your control

Or was that all your intention

[unreal belfry]

there is only 1 xeroc armor and it belongs to xeroc

[high lynx]

On him

[cold owl]

I wonder if Yharon will just go on a rampage after his next rebirth since he has nothing to lose now.

[high lynx]

I said that

[brittle chasm]

so he is saying goodbye to yharim, not becuase of his own death but because of yharim's

[keen hull]

That's what I wanna see in this made-up scenario.

If his friend unexpectedly rebirth just like him but doesn't know him anymore.

[high lynx]

He chillin in the aiere or however you spell it

[unreal belfry]

nah i think he would just be chilling

[high lynx]

Wait yharon not yharim

Honest mistake

[brittle chasm]

yharharharhar

[dusk laurel]

aerie

dragon's aerie

[high lynx]

I hate that word

So hard to spell

[dusk laurel]

what?

[high lynx]

Really nice word though

[dusk laurel]

is it eerie to you?

[high lynx]

Its how i spelled it

[dusk laurel]

yeag, that's fair

[high lynx]

Too many vowels

I wonder if there will ever be an official calamity novel

Probably the same response as a calamity official animated series

“Itd be cool”

[stark basalt]

I'd kill for even a fanmade calamity series

[high lynx]

Kill who

[stark basalt]

Xeroc

[high lynx]

Based

But wait

[cold owl]

I'd be happy just to get like a mini animation of a character like Scal's backstory

[brittle chasm]

this interesting

[high lynx]

Ive thought about making a project like that in the future

[stark basalt]

Frrr, like small 5 min animations about the lore and characters

[high lynx]

I talked about this yesterday

[cold owl]

In Yharon's eyes, his own friend betrayed his whole race.

[brittle chasm]

why xeroc not resolve misunderstanding?

yharon too angry?

[high lynx]

Here

[stark basalt]

Ooh, that'd be so cool

[high lynx]

As said above though im not good enough yet

[cold owl]

Even if he did, like you said, Yharon wouldn't believe him.

Yharon and Yharim call Xeroc "The Traitor Almighty" for a reason.

[stark basalt]

Maybe it could be something like Halo Legends

[high lynx]

Presumably yharon knew what actually happened

[stark basalt]

First episode about the origins and then one episode for each character

(?)

[high lynx]

I havent been following the convo though

[brittle chasm]

permafrost is calamitas father figure?

[high lynx]

Kinda

[livid bobcat]

Our party mage is actually like a student of him so yeah

[high lynx]

Teaches her to control he magic i believe

[brittle chasm]

who sealed archmage again?

[high lynx]

Scal

[stark basalt]

Calamitas herself

[high lynx]

So she didnt have to kill him

[unreal belfry]

did xeroc have any reason to do that they did or were just like "man i rlly don't like this guy (zeratros) im gonna kill him forever"

[high lynx]

To become a god

[brittle chasm]

so she spared him

[calm patio]

zeratos power was going to be lost anyways

[high lynx]

Is that draedon?

[unreal belfry]

yah but like Why
u know what im saying

[high lynx]

For power not spite

[brittle chasm]

sea king

[high lynx]

Ah

Yeah

[cold owl]

A good theory I've seen is that Zeratros gave Xeroc his soul so he could protect Terraria so another "Fovos" incident doesn't happen.

[high lynx]

But thats just a theory

[cold owl]

Exaclty

[high lynx]

A calamity theory

[cold owl]

Thanks for watching!

[high lynx]

But yeah thats a good one, i hadnt heard it

Though it kinda backfired a bit didnt it

[cold owl]

Just a little bit

[high lynx]

Butterfly effected him

[brittle chasm]

this is ominous

oh i think i know

elemental pose danger to everything around

so maybe blowing up azafure wasn't intentional

just throwing up stuff on the wall

[cold owl]

Maybe she was mad about Scal taking her powers or something so she went on a rampage looking for her, but didn't intend on destroying the city completely?

[cold owl]

That's quoted by Yharim tho so it might be biased

[high lynx]

Are you using opera gx force dark mode

[brittle chasm]

i mean it's proven by the fact that silva being in the sulfuric sea drove anahita out

[high lynx]

Abyss

But yeah

[brittle chasm]

is planty mush related to silva?

[high lynx]

Yes

[brittle chasm]

i don't see any evidence of silva in abyss

ohhh

just the planty mush?

[cold owl]

She hasn't fully taken over yet

[brittle chasm]

i see

[high lynx]

I dont actually know if scoria is a silva thing

[brittle chasm]

well it makes life alloy

so maybe

[high lynx]

Along with… perennial?

[brittle chasm]

and cryo

although maybe terrarian's bad at naming again

[high lynx]

Lemme scour the web to see if they’re silva related

Perennial is probably just plantera energy

[cold owl]

I mean technically it's part of life

[high lynx]

But its funny to note, can be shimmered into scoria

[cold owl]

It's part of Silva's elemental domain.

[cold owl]

hmm

[high lynx]

Im sure its just a gameplay thing

Kinda hard to find lore on items

I might have to go through bosses

[brittle chasm]

does draedon have logs on scoria

ik he has one on cryonic in the snow lab

[high lynx]

Probably not sadly

[brittle chasm]

maybe there will be abyss lab

[high lynx]

Unless

[high lynx]

There isnt but he does have an inquiry i believe

[brittle chasm]

does drae do research on abyss?

[high lynx]

I don’t know

[brittle chasm]

maybe they'll add one later

black lab seeking device

[high lynx]

Scoria isnt her element though

[brittle chasm]

maybe she made it to sustain life

[high lynx]

Well sulphiric sea is just his trash can so idk

My best guess is scoria is natural

[cold owl]

Draedon has labs in Tundra, Jungle ,Sky, Hell and Sunken sea and none of them relate to Scoria so

[brittle chasm]

yeah prolly

[cosmic zenith]

Draedon didn't explore the Abyss much

[brittle chasm]

awhh

[cosmic zenith]

As mentioned in the Laserfish entry

[cold owl]

He would have prob found the terminus if he did

[high lynx]

And why would he when Silva is there

[brittle chasm]

imagine draedon take the xeroc test and passes

[high lynx]

And its basically his trashcan

[brittle chasm]

will we ever fight silva

[calm patio]

no

[brittle chasm]

dang

[high lynx]

I thought it would be cool too

But they dont have the bandwidth

They need to do yharim

[pliant ruin]

silva is like the single least fightable character in the mod i think

like besides her just not having any reason to fight us she's also like

yknow

[high lynx]

And then maybe the post game super bosses

[pliant ruin]

in a bit of a uh

vegetative state.

[brittle chasm]

weak?

[cold owl]

Silva is almost certainly not going to regenerate during the time period of the game.

[stark basalt]

She's a corpse at the bottom of the ocean

[brittle chasm]

dang

do you see her at the bottom

[pliant ruin]

she's definitely not weak she's probably one of the strongest gods

but like

she's sorta dead

[brittle chasm]

ive never been to the bottom of the abyss

[pliant ruin]

(for now, anyways

she'll come back..... eventually

and that eventually is definitely not within the game's timespan

[stark basalt]

Nope, you just see what remains of her like the planty mush

[cold owl]

Of the gods we know she's the second strongest (although there is a massive power gap between 2nd and 1st)

[high lynx]

what the

[brittle chasm]

ah

[brittle chasm]

he flexing

[high lynx]

no inquiry about abyss, just the sulphiric sea

[brittle chasm]

but i think i want to observe what his trash does to the sea

[high lynx]

turned it sulphurous

[pliant ruin]

well

not really

[brittle chasm]

abyss might not be because of pollution, maybe?

[pliant ruin]

it was already sulphurous

draedon didnt have muhc to do with taht part

[high lynx]

azafure

but him too

[pliant ruin]

he did throw nuclear waste on it though so that was him

[dusk laurel]

draedon and nuclear waste

[stark basalt]

Funi brimston city

[brittle chasm]

cragmaw mire

acid rain events is draedon's fault?

[pliant ruin]

no

its just

acid rain

[dusk laurel]

no

[brittle chasm]

oh

[cold owl]

The sea was already not in the best condition since Azafure's pollution went up through osmosis or smth.

[cold owl]

Yea

[high lynx]

theres also not much about the abyss that is extremely scientifically interesting enough

[brittle chasm]

ig

[high lynx]

except that it stays

[pliant ruin]

i mean

id argue there is

silva, eidolon wyrms

terminus, even

[cold owl]

Terminus is kinda crazy

[pliant ruin]

though i doubt draedon knows abt the terminuis

[high lynx]

arent all of those magic though

[brittle chasm]

what's the lore on eidolon wyrms

[pliant ruin]

magic and science are sorta intertwined in calamity tbh

[high lynx]

and one is useless now

[cold owl]

If he doesn't know of Xeroc he def doesn't know of the terminus.

[high lynx]

the terminus has no power

and silva might be dangerous to study

[brittle chasm]

but it does carry the attention of xeroc

[high lynx]

and idk about the worm

[cold owl]

Dragon offshoots

[brittle chasm]

ahh

[pliant ruin]

also wdym by this

[high lynx]

does draedon care about xeroc though?

[pliant ruin]

he dosen't know abt him

[brittle chasm]

what can she do if dead?

[high lynx]

over thousands of years of techtonic plates

[high lynx]

she isnt

[cold owl]

Specifically Primordial Wyrm is the first eidolon wyrm blessed by Silva's essence. It hates primordial light and will even attack Xeroc if he came back.

[pliant ruin]

she is sorta dead but not permanently

shje's like

90% dead

but not truly dead

because she cant die

[high lynx]

she always comes back

[pliant ruin]

shes physically dead but her consciousness is in there

[high lynx]

like yharim

on

yharon

[brittle chasm]

yhamcha

[stark basalt]

the yhar

[high lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/yamcha-yamcha-death-pose-yamcha-dead-yamcha-on-the-ground-yamcha-sleeping-gif-15816799

[cold owl]

Basically the only beings the Terrarian can't really kill is Yharon, Silva and the elementals, Draedon and Xeroc right?

[high lynx]

even better

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-dead-anime-gif-27253393

[pliant ruin]

i think so ya

p much

[brittle chasm]

yhocchi

[high lynx]

i love that show

[spring helm]

Put Yharon’s soul in the auric blender

That’ll do the trick

[dusk laurel]

that is an insult to bocci

[brittle chasm]

whar

[high lynx]

She can take it (she cant)

[dusk laurel]

i'm gonna steal your limbs

[high lynx]

That show is really creative and wacky

[brittle chasm]

draedon

[cold owl]

This reminds me that it would be cool to like learn of a god that tried consuming more auric souls and became an auric mush.

[dusk laurel]

☹️

Not funny.

[high lynx]

That one shot she turns into a blender 3d model and hits a strike

[stark basalt]

OneShot?!?!?!?!?!?

[dusk laurel]

that was sick

[dusk laurel]

to the eels.

[brittle chasm]

the hit video game OneShot!??!

[dusk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

[stark basalt]

Hit indie videogame about the cat person OneShot?!?!?1

[brittle chasm]

live sulfuric sea footage

[pliant ruin]

the eel pit

[high lynx]

Never played no spoilers plz

[pliant ruin]

i like how i've made "eel pit" part of the common lore chat vocabulary

i'm such a influencer

[brittle chasm]

eelfluencer

[high lynx]

Influencing lives

[cold owl]

Calamity lore discussion celebrity

[dusk laurel]

i saw you send it a couple times

and then started to use it

then melon joined in like minutes later

or maybe the other way around

idfk

[high lynx]

Is this chat only supposed to discuss calamity lore

Or other lores too

[magic epoch]

Calamari

[dusk laurel]

all calamity lores

calamari is calamity lore

so it is just

[pliant ruin]

all lore to ever exist

[high lynx]

So i can randomly start talking about a hyper fixation if i wanted

I like lore too much

[sinful adder]

Go play Outer Wilds

It's the best game of all time and finding the lore is the way you progress through the game

[high lynx]

Not rn the next game on the list is hollow knight

Eventually though

[sinful adder]

Hollow Knight is also a masterpiece

[high lynx]

Beautiful too

[sinful adder]

Outer Wilds is probably tied with it for quality

[magic epoch]

Also amazin lore

If not a bit confusing at times

(wtf is the ||white lady||)

[high lynx]

I was gonna get a wood burned hollow knight thing that was really pretty but it was 100 bucks and my dear mother said “we can do that at home!”

So i got a sticker with the same design

[pliant ruin]

my favorite game of all time is a gacha game

im so cool

[high lynx]

What is

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-7604350933643036789

[high lynx]

Cool

[rotund shore]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-15384023547410845212

[high lynx]

Bro was dehaired?

i dont know this game

[magic epoch]

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-limbus-company-excited-happy-gif-4868433079801450995

[rotund shore]

I don’t play limbus but a friend of mine does

[high lynx]

i want to be included in the silly images

but i dont know the game

and thus

[rotund shore]

Just search up limbus company in gifs and post whatever’s silly

[high lynx]

why cant i find the "go touch grass? cant i eated it all" with the plushie

i had to download from interweb

maybe one of my favorite images

along with

[dusk laurel]

ash baby

my lock screen on my phone...

[high lynx]

wait really

mine is hatsune miku jumpscare

[dusk laurel]

hatsune mikill

[high lynx]

In think my favorite vocaloid artist is inabakumori

[pliant ruin]

I love inabakumori

Ok chat gn
Sleep well silly guys

[high lynx]

Gnight

[dusk laurel]

🪤

[humble fog]

the inferior don

[gusty herald]

I have a question lore people:
"Signs of self dissapointment start infiltrating
Symptoms of paranioa begin invading..." who is this lyrics telling about? That whole part of the song?

[dusk laurel]

uhhhhhhhh

[gusty herald]

Ping me when you answer alr? Imma be away

Oh nvm

[dusk laurel]

sbc isn't canon

[gusty herald]

Oh

[visual kiln]

no it is

[dusk laurel]

not fully anyways

[gusty herald]

Ok then

[visual kiln]

calamitas iirc ?

[gusty herald]

But the last line of that part says "Are you sure you want to lose your life?
From a witch who had caused you nothing but strife?"

[cold owl]

The player

[gusty herald]

That witch part confused me

[cold owl]

but it was old lore

[dusk laurel]

that part is old

[gusty herald]

Ah

Ok

[dusk laurel]

other parts are canon

but not entirely

[cold owl]

Grief "red" is cal's prespective, lament "blue" is the terrarian and epithany "orange" is just a 3rd person view of the fight i'm pretty sure.

[sinful adder]

The vague idea of the lyrics in SBC are canon but the exact wording is not

[gusty herald]

What if the third person is yharim

[sinful adder]

The perspectives also shift around

[sinful adder]

We have no reason to believe this. It could be anyone. A stupid ass lyric website said it was Xeroc but gave no reason for this either.

[gusty herald]

Oke

Thanks a lot people

[gusty herald]

Also i didnt quite get what you meant here mate

[cold owl]

a sec

[gusty herald]

Ok

[cold owl]

the song is split in four parts grief (red) lament (blue) epiphany (orange) acceptance (grey)

Grief is the first one which is Calamitas's point of view on the matter who was sent by Yharim to kill the terrarian (Is she sure she wants to lose her life to a legend who could salvage mankind?)

[gusty herald]

Ooh

[cold owl]

Lament is the players perspective whose path is one of justice and anyone who stands in the way of that like Calamitas is doing will pay the ultimate price (But are they sure they want to lose their life to a witch who has caused them nothing but strife?)

[gusty herald]

That paying ultimate price thing exists in the lyrics too

[cold owl]

Epiphany is the 3rd person perspective of the fight, the witch (cal) and the prophecy (player)

Acceptance is cal accepting defeat

[gusty herald]

The end has come, the witch and the prophecy

[cold owl]

"deciding fates with the world on the line"

[gusty herald]

Wow the whole thing got more meaning in my mind now

[cold owl]

Who shall emerge from the ashes of calamity?

the terrarian of cal?

[gusty herald]

Wow

Thanks a lot mate

[cold owl]

np

[frank dune]

Hello lorers

what the lore for today

[devout grotto]

Ok but I've kind of thought my Terrarian would've been something that a prophecy foretold but looking at the lyrics of SBC made me consider it even more

[cold owl]

I also like the idea that the terrarian was something foretold through prophecy. It's just Badass.

[devout grotto]

So true

Another one: the prophecy started as, well, a regular prophecy but as the Crusade became worse, it got to a point where it almost feels like a prayer or a plead of some sort for a hero to come save the world or whatever

[indigo glade]

Grief is about Calamitas, Lament is about the player and Epiphany are about the people onlooking the fight, the ones singing the chorus.

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[devout grotto]

Stop 😭

[devout grotto]

Ok now that I finally got this out of my head, idk if I still find it cringe or not anymore

[untold forge]

John Fovos

[untold forge]

No shot I posted that like 2 seconds ago in another server

[exotic ingot]

john fovos

[cold owl]

Fovos is conquering Calamity in another way ig cuz it's everywhere.

[exotic ingot]

lmaooo

[gusty herald]

Whos fovos

[untold forge]

Whoever made that drawing

Thank you 🙏

[cold owl]

Moon lord

[untold forge]

Moonlord with legs

[gusty herald]

Ok

[untold forge]

Basically before the dragons tore it apart and locked it on the moon

[cold owl]

Basically Moon lord when he was like the second strongest calamity character we know of.

[gusty herald]

Tf is this tho lmao

[untold forge]

John Fovos

[gusty herald]

Ah ok thanks

[exotic ingot]

john fovos

[gusty herald]

Lmao

[indigo glade]

Rebecca is going to shit herself again.

[untold forge]

See y'all in 3 weeks when I remember about this server

[untold forge]

Did the lore change ?

[exotic ingot]

real

[exotic ingot]

whar

[untold forge]

Like I know it's still called fovos

And I know the dragons got annihilated

[indigo glade]

No. Fovos is not "the name for Moon Lord before". Fovos IS Moon Lord. They aren't sepeate, so don't treat them as such.

[untold forge]

Yeah I know they are the same

Lmao

[indigo glade]

Then stop.

[untold forge]

Dude what is your problem

[exotic ingot]

yeah were just joking around here

[indigo glade]

The problem is that you are spreading misinformation.

[exotic ingot]

????

[untold forge]

Holy shit 💀

[exotic ingot]

everyone knows they're the same, and if they dont, they can, i dunno, ask someone

its not the end of the world

this isnt fandom wiki grade goofin

[indigo glade]

You both literally said they were not the same thing, with no further explanation.

[untold forge]

Drawing fanny specifically because of this

[cold owl]

Prime moon lord and weakened moon lord is still moon lord

[exotic ingot]

HAH

[untold forge]

Fr

And it's lore name is Fovos

And I acknowledged that like 5 times

[exotic ingot]

i dont know when i said that

but i seriously dont think its a big deal

[indigo glade]

It is a big enough deal for it to get its own pin.

[eager bluff]

fovos is the term used to describe moon lord pre fuck uppening

[exotic ingot]

actually?

hold

[untold forge]

Save me

[indigo glade]

It shouldn't be, and any use of it like that is misuse.

[exotic ingot]

k

[eager bluff]

like yes they are the same thing

[exotic ingot]

i knew they were the same

[rotund shore]

Fovos is a valid name for its current state

[eager bluff]

yes

nobody is saying it isnt

[rotund shore]

And moonlord is a valid (even if it didn’t exist at the time) name for its original state

It’s just oddly misconstrued often

[eager bluff]

fovos is generally used as a distinctor between pre and post fuck uppening moon lord

[cold owl]

I just don't get why people are acting like we committed a terrible sin

[indigo glade]

#lore-discussion message

[eager bluff]

im saying nobody except you gives a shit

[untold forge]

8th deadly sin

[cold owl]

All he had to do was just say "btw Fovos and ML are the same being" no need to cause a scene.

[calm patio]

guh

[eager bluff]

we all understand the point

[cold owl]

We all knew that anyways

[untold forge]

Buh

[eager bluff]

the information is communicated

[exotic ingot]

everyone knew

[eager bluff]

that is what matters

[indigo glade]

The new person didn't.

[calm patio]

[untold forge]

And now the new person does know

[indigo glade]

And not because of you.

[cold owl]

I'm certain they are intelligent enough to know

[eager bluff]

and also not because of you

[untold forge]

So I'm gonna pull a power move here

[cold owl]

We explained who fovos was by using the name ML

Even if we said pre fuck up they are still the same being.

[exotic ingot]

yeah

[eager bluff]

you pulled up with needless aggression instead of actually explaining anything

[devout grotto]

All I know is that Fovos = ML, nothing more nothing else 🏃

[cold owl]

That's you need to know

[devout grotto]

Yeah

[exotic ingot]

if there was any confusion you could have just said "btw ml and fovos are the same dude"

[cold owl]

Exactly

[untold forge]

Honselamitas

[indigo glade]

Excuse me? I made a joke about a lore writer not liking the misuse, explained how it was misused, then got asked "what is your problem?".

[exotic ingot]

it wasnt very clear that you were joking, sorry

[indigo glade]

If anything, I was needlessly attacked.

[indigo glade]

I intentionally used the same term she did that is in the pin.

[exotic ingot]

some people dont really go through every pin section in every channel of a server

[eager bluff]

because proper grammar in this section of the internet is relatively uncommon and because of the culture built up around everything it comes off as assholeish

it was not clear that you were joking

[cold owl]

We can't remember every dev message by heart

[eager bluff]

hate to be blunt like this
but this reads like you're being an ass

[exotic ingot]

yeah

[untold forge]

Cause it was

Catch y'all in a few weeks

[exotic ingot]

real

[eager bluff]

what you could have done was simply replied to the user asking the question with your answer instead of going on this tangent

[indigo glade]

Thanks for telling me this, I genuinely didn't know it was percieved this way.

[exotic ingot]

glad we could clear that up ^w^

[cold owl]

Forgive and forget

[wet wadi]

I'm finally able to chat here let's gooo

[indigo glade]

Conflicting answers aren't good. It is better if an incorrect answer is corrected. If the person is reading the chat still, they'd see that answer, and the incorrect person is corrected as well.

[untold forge]

Holy shit how

[exotic ingot]

yoooo

[untold forge]

[wet wadi]

Between mobile and PC, I alone am the discord user

[exotic ingot]

fool

[calm patio]

Wrong.

[untold forge]

Too many similar pfp's in chat

[indigo glade]

Why is the fox being rotated.

[exotic ingot]

there isnt possibly enough room for two of us

actually im small maybe we can fit

[wet wadi]

Fox go spinnnn

[untold forge]

Fun sizes

[exotic ingot]

[untold forge]

Sized*

[indigo glade]

Stop rotating the fox, I don't think it likes it.

[eager bluff]

i am the master of discord on mobile web pc and other Assorted Bullshit™️

[wet wadi]

I am the fox

[exotic ingot]

why else would the fox be rotating

[indigo glade]

Force rotation

[eager bluff]

speen

[exotic ingot]

you think the fox needs help rotating itself?

[untold forge]

That's it

Opinions on John Wulfrum

[exotic ingot]

you know what that means

[exotic ingot]

YEAHHHHH

[wet wadi]

You fool, I'll also rotate the big fish

[eager bluff]

i need help rotating myself if you get what i mean

[calm patio]

@exotic ingot oh yea, i was planning to ask you that i want to commission something few months back but i forgor

[eager bluff]

i dont know what this message means

[exotic ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-meme-you-know-what-that-means-gif-12503956388971591256

[indigo glade]

Certainly an existent character in the lore.

[untold forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bananas-rotate-spinning-rotate-faster-banana-speed-gif-17595217

[wet wadi]

FLYING FISH

[exotic ingot]

smhhhh

maybeeeee

[indigo glade]

Faster.

[exotic ingot]

but im not done my other stuff yet

[calm patio]

lmk whenever you have

[untold forge]

Me about to commission Mack to turn a storyboard into an animatic for vetrasyl

[exotic ingot]

HKGSHGKSGHIHSIG

i could never

virales and i tried doing that and we both forgot about it-

[untold forge]

I can't draw dragons for anything

[exotic ingot]

I CAN MEE MEEE MEEEEE

[untold forge]

Omamori

[exotic ingot]

oh no thats seperate

[untold forge]

Just waiting on vetrasyl to get a design

Eventually I can make my angst animatics with the likes of Thunder Bringer and Bury the Light

[exotic ingot]

speaaaking of designs what are we thinkin of my take on zeratros

[wet wadi]

I can almost draw a dragon, however I can't model one to save my life

Those designs are amazing

[untold forge]

Literally

I can't tell if I like that one, Zara chards, or throudons more

All are too good

[exotic ingot]

theyre all cool i think

[untold forge]

Zarachard and the space I didnt put in the name

[indigo glade]

Why is Yharon looking at me like that?

[eager bluff]

ok but the coolest one is mine clearly (i cannot draw dragons i havent even tried to draw vetra

[untold forge]

Yharon is macks adopted child

[wet wadi]

I read Vegeta

[eager bluff]

yhrimp

[wet wadi]

My mind is slipping

[exotic ingot]

i only know of vetrasyl from my buddies talking about em

[exotic ingot]

[untold forge]

Yhgnome but macks fanart is in my screenshots folder somewhere

Yhome

[eager bluff]

ghnome

[indigo glade]

Inside Yharim's helmet is just a little gnome wearing Auric armour.

[untold forge]

They get it

[wet wadi]

No shot I got stained brutal calamity by hitting shuffle play, it was fortold

Why did

[eager bluff]

yharim is 2 inches tall thats why hes killing all the gods

[indigo glade]

What's inside the gnome's helmet? We shall never know...

[wet wadi]

The massage do that

[eager bluff]

they made fun of him for being to smol

[exotic ingot]

take these

[untold forge]

The version of Yharim @exotic ingot draws is 4 inches tall piloting the mech

[indigo glade]

You could say it was...

[calm patio]

Do not.

[indigo glade]

The witch and the prophecy...

[untold forge]

Blocking you all /j

[untold forge]

Omg nameless deity reference!!1!

[cold owl]

Deciding fates with the world on the line?

[exotic ingot]

HAHAH

[eager bluff]

he didnt get thrown into lava thats a lie he fabricated to cover up the fact that he was trying to hardboil yharons yhegg and fell into the pot

[untold forge]

I think that past your great disast- wait wrong song

[calm patio]

[exotic ingot]

HAHAHA

[untold forge]

HAHAHA

[eager bluff]

he alone is the boiled one

[wet wadi]

Lmao

[exotic ingot]

xeroc sat there like "i dont even know that guy"

[untold forge]

As you ascend past yourself

[indigo glade]

Why would Yharon save Yharim then?

[untold forge]

You killed my father

[indigo glade]

Is Yharon stupid?

[wet wadi]

Who needs to know the real lore, I have this 🍿

[exotic ingot]

no i am your father

no

wrong media

[exotic ingot]

HAHA

[untold forge]

People compare Yharon to Darth Vader but I like to see it the other way around

[eager bluff]

oh simple yharim didnt get saved by yharon yharon just hatched and inadvertently saved him because the entire building got destroyed by suddenly materializing dragon

[untold forge]

I mean I'm pregnant and you're the father

[exotic ingot]

yharim is vader

[wet wadi]

"wait no, you're pregnant and IM the baby"

[untold forge]

WHATDHAGGWHAT

[exotic ingot]

HAHAHA

[untold forge]

So yeah I do kinda look like a bear

[indigo glade]

I look away for one second and there is someone talking about being pregnant...

[eager bluff]

and yharim tried to cover up the whole thing and kept going with it and its too late to back out now

[untold forge]

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