#lore-discussion
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Imagine a dog pet the size of like storm weaver with the resprite
No shìt
_ _
Lets cook dog
_ _
Fast tuping
Nobody is resist to pale damage

no costco too greatco
resistant to that too.
i am the immaterial.
Not body
i have no soul.
no wheel to break
empty, mindless husk.
no mind to 
Nuclear bomb then
again, i'm immaterial
no mind to gay
bombs won't work
no plumg to :3
Noxus spray
no girls to kiss
not cutting it.

no jokes to laugh
Deploying Fanny to find you
would the plural of astrum aureus be astrum aurei or astrum aureuses
What
i was thinking of astrum

i just had the most half-hearted feeling of deja vu i've ever had whilst reading the recent messages of this channel
sleep
Astra Dei
i get deja vu like every few hours
i get it once every few days on average i think
damnit
The Fovos gif gives me major flashbacks
no lines to steal
I have deja vu every couple days
no garbos to the
no amethyst to the
Astral astral astrum astral
it's not the same...
?
i never had employees
only pet worms
no, i'm not noxus
don't even think about it
Vanillin is Fovos' and Xeroc's son omg
what the yaoi
omg rick hii
btw squeak squad is so fun
i still think super star ultra has the most fun abilities but these are neat
kirby.
I too find Richard to be most agreeable of a companion
youre noxus son
After you've done all Kirby games...
Will you 100% all animal crossing games?

you fool, you absolute buffoon
No
richard the rodent is not in super star ultra
(I have never played Squeak Squad
hes not even in squeak squad 
Then I am confused
Daroach is Rick in disguise
My Kirby knowledge stops at Super Star Ultra basically
kirby was mentioned briefly and i changed the subject cause im tired and nefarious
Alright
Devious entity
kinda evil ngl
Ml is noxus's gf
anyway yea its midnight so im disappearing
Go sleep tutle
bye cuties and everyone here
Bye bye
wtf kangelpilled garbo
bites u
Gn
Issac newton if he died
Have I gotten to say that I'm Garbo's sister yet 
which one of you convinced the other to get into tmod
The server lore expands
My players in my calamity prequel themed ttrpg game upcoming session are gonna meet permafrost soon, any advice as to his characterization during yharims crusade?
he should be wise, but also hip and cool (idfk
)
He prob would be similiar to how he is In game, since once he realises yharim is evil he leaves
He is also older then yharim so he would still be a senior citizen in knowledge
If you have any mages in the party, Permafrost can comment on them and their potential.
^
Also see: wise and old mentor trope
i... just said that


What is the lore reason for tomatoes being fruit, but not being used in fruit salads?
you don't eat it like a fruit
That xeroc, noxus, fovos and yharim all unanimously agreed it doesn’t belong in fruit salad
anything edible from a plant is a vegetable in my books
aren't bananas from plants
Chat shayy said this about this meme, a dev said it so it has to be true fr fr
@ 🧀
Catastrophe is non binary because they / them
Why did I think you said ban / them
Actually nvm I think that's fairly self explanatory
...
banban is peak what
I pray... for your recovery

They slash them,,,
Idk
where can i read calamity lore aside from the small logs in game?
the lore document in pins contains all of the lore present in the game
thank u
And you can ask here with questions on the lore
melon gun you know the thing i wrote about polter yesterday
or maybe the day before idr
what else could i write about in a similar way
Hmmm
I don’t think many bosses are like polter in lore
Maybe the first time being in the dungeon? Idk my brain not fully on
Acid rain event? Could that work?
it could
only thing left is to see if i can think of something or if i'll be staring at a blank doc for twenty minutes
what is the incineration?
if it happened in illmeris why did it effect the great sand shark?
or was the incineration bigger than just illmeris?
Great sans shark lived close to or in the sunken sea
The incineration is scal being takes to destroy illmeris sea and she did incinerate most or half of it
Illmeran sea and sunken sea same thing
sunken sea = ilmeran sea fyi
i see
sunken is the untouched part
sand was because of incineration
Only the underground.
damn
most of the underground desert used to be ilmeris
Desert surface was always desert, underground desert was a underground sea
ahh
except for a bit and the surface
The surface was always a desert, but it is the underground desert that used to be water.
so illmeris was underground?
Yes.
Yes
yep
i see
lore knowers, how many people do you think know more about the lore than you
20+
Atleast 1
Well, I know for certain the lore writers know the lore better than I do.
i think i've gotta be top 100-200
how many writers are there in calamity?
^
There are three developers that are dedicated to the lore, but others pitch in too, like Ozzatron.
I think like 3 main (cei,stip and Rebecca) but there’s plenty of others who have contributed to it aswell iirc
^
how many people actively chat in this chat and know at least 90% of the characters
like shayy and others have added stuff
lore characters?
yeah
me
also what about vertasyl
and like 30+ people at least
yep, storm dragon
vetrasyl is stip
how did scal incinerate illmeris?
did she blow it up from the inside with magic?
or is there not detail on this
I think most of the regulars here know enough to get someone up to date with current lore with good accuracy
she has flames
that are very potent
the brimstone magic, yes?
how many people do we esstimate that is
She boiled it from above with her brimstone flames is what I think
more or less than 100
loreious
She wields nearly exclusively fire magic. She literally just evaporated the entire thing.
she always is in the caves
correct me if im wrong but the only thing that burns similarly hot to scals flames is thanatos' laser
oh my bad
do we know who were the gods' whose corpses gave birth to crimson and corruption?
Grew up in the Underworld, which is just a giant cave. Incinerated Ilmeris, which is just a giant cave. And lives in a cave, which is just a giant cave.
supreme cave
Mantis Shrimp are able to punch fast enough to produce the same heat.
none iirc
maybe 1
No.
No cause it’s like legit hundreds of evil gods
damn
i thought it was just 1
thats what i thought but i wasnt sure
Nah one god dead doesn’t do much
did yharim kill them too
Yes
that's why hallow's there?
yep, he and his lackeys
why?
hallow is cause wof exploded
killed basically everyone who died
Cause they’re gods
yharim is insane
"all gods are sinners"
also didnt one of the devs calculate how many people yharim killed or something
so he's like an hyper extremist revolutionary?
He is deluded and thinks he is but he isn’t
i dont believe the numbers they put
but has insane strength and charisma
All we know is that the corruption gods were mainly cruel and tyrannical gods and crimson gods are greedy and violent
is that yharim
no.
Yharon is the dragon
Yeah they’re similiar
why their names so similar
it's on purpose
i do that with noxus and xeroc
attunement
like some soul binding contract?
was yharon always his name
due to getting thrown into lava
or did he call himself that on recent rebirth
yharim was not want to be a god king
They’re like just so good friends and so in sync their souls litteraly attuned
he was probably named after or by yharim
and absorb yharon auric soul
Yharon is the oldest living character
I think that’s correct
ahhhh
how?
We don’t have anything on their age
we don't know
cool
read the messages below
Wants to return everything to how it was before
almost like providence
did yharon convince him
good dragons were a thing
or did he come to that conclusion himself
Yharon and yharim are among the most biased things in the game
mostly yharon
^
Yharon got a lot of bias after his own kind was genocided and told Yharim a biased version of events.
yharon when his siblings killed a child
terrarian
He is likely human but it doesn’t really matter
until i see one die of old age and not war they're not human to me
TAU warhammer 40k
archmage looks like he aged
not dead yet
Archmage is older then yharim
bro
Who is like 130
oh ok
permafrost is archmage for a reason
which is the oldest a human has lived irl
yharim is ~130
116
so how old is the oldest char?
we don't know
Yharon is within the thousands minimum
2000 is just recorded history
oh true
yeesh
draconic era likely started earlier
^
Oh yeah the planet is probably the oldest living being
deus might be a juvenile if it is an animal part of a species
draedon theory

yeah and thats why it might have gotten infected
what is the oath with dragons?
being a monk and protecting them idk
oh that one
we probably won't ever know
i was gonna say no clue
unspecified ig
mayhaps unspoken oath between early "humans" and dragons
sun was stronger
the sun is a deadly laser
so who is scal
and maybe xeroc weakened it after ascending
sun was a deadly laser
calamitas
supreme calamitas
from what is see she destroy 2 cities
yes ik that
im asking who she is in the lore
she does more

just not stated
brimstone witch
wao
minecraft horror mods
She is a 27-28 year old azafure woman
Early in life she was poor and normal but when brimmstone elemental awoke she gained power beyond that of any god but xeroc, after failing to stop the destruction of azafure she joined yharim and was tasked to destroy illmeran sea (like fifteen by now) and she did so successfully in a unkown amount of time, after imprisoning permafrost in Cryogen she soon after left yharim and has been living in a random cave
Her powers drain her mentally to use

Slimelamitas
catlamitas, cat seekers, cat-tastrophe, cat-taclysm, catpulcher and catstone hearts
aw dang

More catlamitas
large image.
The got her powers from brim ele is technically a theory but we all know its true
draedon says that they're the same magic
Yeah
so yeah, something happened between the 2
We know they fought
and blew up aza
i was referring to before the fight
i am NOT cooking with this prompt ngl
We dont strictly know how she got her powers
It’s 2 am I’m not surprised
yeah lmao
mysterious brimstone flubbery
She could have gotten them through exposure to brimstone living there
nu
But transfered from ele is most likely
i don't think all azafure ppl have that power
Isn’t it stated brimstone is semi everywhere since azafure is so big
i don't think scal was in the mines
But we know brimstone power can be transferred
why would she stay in so many caves then
Nostalgia
_ _
so we back in the mines
💥
Got my pickax
yes.
Silva is nigh immortal
elementals are like gods?
You would need to kill litteraly everything on the planet and it’s vaccinity to kill her
parts of nature
Where does it say shes a life elemental plz i never read that please link
that explains why there are earth elementals every 20 seconds when i mine
She is a elemental and her god domain is life
dev statements iirc
Nah azafure made those
im not sure if it's ingame yet
They’re artificially made
wadafwak
Explains it
oh
Oh hey a lore writer here
He has awoken
why did silva kick anahita out her house
Just the way it is
Silva was dropped in abyss
Anahita didn’t like her roommate and left
elemental can't occupy same area?
They are quite territorial I imagine
I really didnt know she was an elemental
so is silva evil
No
It’s why she is so immortal
no
Likely not
probably not
wrong reply
After Yharim threw her torn body in the abyss her temperary dead essence spread it's influence in the abyss. Eventually it got to the point Anahita just left.
But what implies silva is an elemental in that?
encountering silva's corpse at the bottom of the abyss might work better for my brain rn
Other elementals are no exception?
i think so
Then go with that
What has stip been cooking
this makes sense
Elementals are immortal manifestations of the five elements
- Water manifests into the Water Elemental, Anahita
- Earth manifests into the Sand Elemental
- Fire manifests into the Brimstone Elemental
- Air manifests into the Cloud Elemental
- Nature manifests into the Nature Elemental, Silva
Meanwhile, Gods are (inherently sapient) beings who absorbed the Auric soul of an Auric Dragon and ascended to godhood
Thank you dev
No problem!
brimmy is basically immortal iirc
Didn’t Rebecca say brimmy was more accurately heat not that long ago
I read in heat im cooked
_ _

She is probably the hardest elemental to kill

oh waw
I think you need to get bleach
You can beat an Elemental into a pulp, dissolving her, but as long as her element exists she can just reform
Silva may require the other elementals to die
so if you get rid of all water on terraria does anahita die
If that's true then Silva but if not then brimmy
like that?
or does scal still keep it in lore
I imagine so
elementals aren't really life
Good luck getting rid of all gas particles off the planet though
they're just manifestations
Note that Earth Elemental is not actually the Elemental of Earth, it's an automaton created by Azafure's forgemasters to simulate an Elemental
based yharim
If your allowed to say, around how long does it take to reform.
They have a soul and are able to ascend so I imagine they are
Yeah
But good luck doing that, let alone permanently
¯_(ツ)_/¯
then is there no real earth elemental?
ah
oh wait
Sans is earth
sand.
sand elemental
Sand Elemental
ye i forgor sry
Sand
I hate autocorrect
welcome to the underground


So true
Im going minigolfing buh bye
bye
Bye!
bye bye
baiii
Have a hood experience
"hood"
I hate autocorrect
Firstly, SCal having Brimmy's powers is speculation
Secondly, Brimmy wouldn't reform at peak strength, if that's what you're suggesting
I shall headcanon that the elementals reform in the same time as yharon does
Until given other info
Dragon of life
maybe.
And had a perfect ascension
it might be like xeroc
so ppl wanted the dragon powah so they committed mass racial genocide
where the dragon willingly gave up the soul
Unconfirmed
Still killing just not murder
is that what happened
Instead it’s assisted suicide
yharpaganda strikes again.
i mean not all of them
Ontonilou came across their dragon just dead
but the fact the corruption and crimson exists means that a lot did
Or was it Tyrian
otonilou
Yeah, but hallowed shows 1/3 were def good
his soundtrack is the best so
Meanwhile the Hallow is coincidently never mentioned by Yharim
the hallow released from wall of flesh?
Yes
me when my opinions affect how i interpret the lore.
It’s also god corpses
is it the sealed god corpses?
Corruption, crimson and hallowed are all god corpses
Same thing basically, leftover from dead like corpse
well there still was a genocide
it just didn't justify another genocide by yharim
?
Not even really a genocide
rlly?
how many auric dragons were there
Most gods ascended seperate from other gods
many
No determinate number but I think 3-4 K
Yharim tasked alchemists from Azafure with discovering a way to store god essence to prevent the creation of something like Crimson or Corruption. This led to the creation of the Wall of Flesh.
Eh specifics don’t matter too much
so they put all the good gods and bad gods in the wall
I thought it was forge masters
Yes
Yharim saw all gods as bad
some evil essences remained outside
_ _
Probably from the first gods he killed
so is yharon stronger than scal?
no.
o
o
Where a boss is in progression is generally how strong the are
they're similar
So post moonlord boss is stronger then moonlord
Calamitas would win in a fight but Yharon would technically win since he will just keep coming back.
Scal is stronger but it’s not that big a difference
Specifically crippled moon lord
moonlord in injured, yes?
weakened
dwayne "xeroc" johnson
is xeroc a good god?
probably
they protect the world iirc
from like
cosmaticmango statement
but it isn't confirmed
He somehow went from being able to take on all the dragons to most likely becoming weaker than the average auric dragon.
cosmaticmango statement!?!?
ohh
There's theories that Xeroc is protecting Terraria from other Moonlords after the current one kinda destroyed everything.
I think Rebecca stated a eidolon wyrm be around plantera level
why is it called the moonlord
it got
Cause it got trapped in the moon
sealed on the moon
Fovos is another name for moonlord
By other moon lords I meant just other potential threats that might exist in space.
yes?
?
who seal moonlord
dragons sealed moonlord away
ah
The dragons
Zeratross, the Auric Dragon who's now dead and Xeroc absorved his auric soul
The dragons
Zeratros was one of them
But not the only one to
Or well, yeah, the dragons hehe
so he died in battle and the monk took his soul
xeroc idk if he helped seal
no.
whar
Not died, but he ended up really weakened
ahh
He was gravely injured and Yharon was unable to heal/revive him.
the main theory is that zeratros gave xeroc the soul
i see
guh
And Yharon wasnt there and assumed Xeroc took it.
yep.
so this entire yharim crusade is because of misunderstanding by yharon?
It would be a good explination on how Xeroc knows of the perfect ritual since Zeratros could have taught him.
yharon is
biased since most of his kind was killed
yharim also was almost killed by some evil gods
so that also helped develop his hatred
why is yharon the subordinate instead of yharim
Lava goes crazy
they are equals
They’re friends
They equal
ohh
Phase two theme a bit out dated
why did he refer to yharim as master in the song then?
ahh
Just needs some headcanon for it to work
sbc is mostly uncanon
Just think of master as like friend or equal.
Sadly
huge age gap friendship
.
sbc?
Scal theme
Stained, Brutal Calamity
Scal's theme
?
it's a shame they're not really accurate to lore since they're so good
Likely won’t be a replacement to the songs
yeah
hopefully
Yeah, but they’re still a banger
mhm
What weapons do y'all think godseeker knights wielded? (besides heavy laser rifles ofc)
Prob would receive a lot of backlash
okay
Maybe not if we only count Yharon's recent life.
But he retain his conciousness & memory after rebirth so it might not be the case
Yeah
No longer 100% lore accurate but too good to be replaced
well since the cal music is separate from the main mod a new music mod would work i think
as just an option
Scal theme wasnt lore accurate in old lore already from what I heard
but idk the community
so maybe not
I mean, maybe
But most people would stick with dokuro things
?
it is a dependency
oh
Currently, main mod need music mod to run (it used to be vice versa)
how did they get swapped
is this like the tf2 coconut situation
delete coconut and entire mod is unplayable
All their weapons are made by Draedon so look for them ig 🤔
It's intended to play calamity with its music
Their lore I mean
I think it was either uelibloom or cosmolite draedon stuff
i thought they'd leave room for fan remixes
ig not
Also I actuallt kinda like the name you gave them :O
the cosmilite arsenal gear was reserved for draedon's personal use
he didn't give it to yharim's forces
murasama isnt canon however 
Except for DoG's armor
so dreadon is crazy mad scientist, right?
Ooh, I see, so the pulse dragon was their melee
insane
cosmilite arsenal gear
dog's armour isn't part of the arsenal gear
Maybe it's everything below cosmilite tier. I don't think uelibloom equipment will be enough for all infantry
I read it wrong you were talking about "The Arsenal" itself
Yeah he is crazy smart, Exo mechs are what he is capable of before gets the recipe to miracle matter from us making it
stealer
He let the inventor name it tho
He legit is like hundreds of years ahead of irl tech while the rest of the world is before Industrial Revolution
literally Trazyn the Infinite
(Despite how much he hates the name)
Basically but he's devoid of emotion so he can do whatever he wants without shame.
Robot
A robot
made by who
A robot searching for all science
I think more of an AI maybe?
His creator who died in the tundra
oh
Cuz I think he had many recon bodies
the shack
We don’t know, creator was dead
That’s the mechanics house iirc
oh :C
When he was born, he found a dead body and assume it's his creator's
just like nuts from bezerk
I don't think that house is 700 years old
Basically Draedon awoke in the tundra in the year 1227 during the Deific era next to his dead creator.
There will be a destroyed sky city we can go to in the future
ooo
Specifically November 19th 1227
Yeah draedon is like the only source for exact numbers
Yharim is around 130 currently, he would be more so 40-50 when some early labs were made
His lab were build with yharim's assist, I think. Yharim is in his 90'
130?
Yeah yharim old
Damn, he's older than I remember
I think I miscalculate as some point so I get number 90
That’s prob how long the crusade has been going
He's gonna die of "old age" in like a decade or less tho so he doesn't have much time
^
does yharim regret what he's done?
he seems kinda melancholic in the logs
He's always in his physical prime tho thanks to his attunement to Yharon.
He regrets not being better at killing gods
He regrets some things, but not killing gods
oh like how his ppl die?
incredibly based if you ask me
He doesn’t regret the hundreds of millions of innocent people he killed
He regrets the wrong things
Losing his hero status is prob his biggest regret
he's like dr doom?
Idk who that is
Like treating calamitas like a weapon her entire life
the marvel villian that rules a country really good his ppl don't care abt anything he do outside
Calamitas is probably the only ally he feels bad for to some extent.
Yharon maybe?
He doesn’t regret the child soldier things either
damn
Yharon never left
Permafrost I don't think so, Draedon and DoG even less
he's kinda like the emperor of mankind
I meant allies he betrayed.
now that i think abt it
I don’t think dog ever left
Yeah, that's why draedon help us at some points. He wanna see us fight yharim. If we died, yharim would died before anyone else reach where we are.
Ahh yes, then you're right
Lots of new people in lore chat
why would he want to see us fight yharim?
science?
lol
He doesnt care about Draedon or DoG since he sees them as immoral and villains. He also doesnt really care about Permafrost since he doesnt take responsibility for his attempted murder.
for science
That’s the only reason he will ever have
Science is draedons entire motive for any action
Plus he did try to get him killed.
well that is his directive from his creator, yes?
He thinks perma is dead till we beat Cryogen
Yes
And he still doesnt really care.
Yeah
Bro literally capable of purifying the sulphorous sea but refuse to because of SCIENCE 👀
Yup
It's so funny cause like
it's his trash can
Calamitas is the only ally he shows remorse for, asking you to show her respect where he did not.
he needs it to do more science elsewhere
He was so angry about the bees and probably vowed to never talk to draedon again
and then after a while he's like
"DRAEDON, LEND ME SOME EXOTECHNOLOGY"
Plus he doesn't blame her for hating him.
He has no morals, he isn’t evil or good he will continue scoemcing until he reaches all the knowledge in the universe
why was yharon so angry about bees
Also, how the sea life adapting to it is really interesting to him
accidental science
Love how he never brings it up out of shame.
Draedon removes their free will, something evil gods do a lot
So he hates draedon for doing a thing he views as a thing gods do
And it’s yharim who angry
doesn't he also remove ppl's free will by killing ppl
The mech bosses have free will
He's reffering to enslavement
Souls persist after death so not really
ig his enemies don't count
ahh
Except god ones they turn into essence, but he doesn’t care about gods
And that's why draedon discontinue soul-related stuff
It's enslavement Yharim is against since he views his killing as "Justice."
Draedon doesn't like that they have free will
It adds free will to his mechs
Draedon wants his machines to do as he says, he does not like them having free will
yesyes thatthat
Magic become science if someone understand it enough
So he doesn’t want to research souls till he has to
Technology and magic are explicitly used in different things, we know this due to wulfrum prosthesis tooltip
Because he likes mechs
same
He was a war machine creator for ages
Yeah, they are in some kind of arms race
so he has emotion
So he would be best proficient in them
the admiration for mechs
He likes mechs and likes to see their destructive capability.
He also says we suck at naming so yeah, he has some form of emotion but not moral
such ungabunga brain for a sciency boy
I think that's why bro is so mad at astral infection when they take his aureus 👀
Plus his mechs are like his first line of defense and the reason he is on par with Scal or more.
Exos are equal to scal
"hehe big robot go boom boom, I make more robot, more boom boom" -draedon probably
War is a great motivator for innovation
maybe he doesn't actually like science but does it to build cooler mechs
I fucking love the exo mechs
maybe he just really really likes mechs
draedon?!?!?
they are the literal definition of deus ex machina
Mech obsession
literally me frfr
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Because he learnt what he wanted from nano plague
it worked, no?
oh ok
He learned and moved on
I wonder.
Yharim will definitely die at the end, but.
Thinking about when someone consume of attune to auric soul, they gain dragon's power.
Time for the image
No, it wouldn't be fitting for the Terraria aspect of the game.
We didn't consume any auric soul.
isn't yharon auric dragon
I don't think there's any auric soul left for them to consume
We don’t absorb his soul
Yharon's soul was fragmented
oh
We can't become god since the ritual to become a god is long forgotten.
You need a specific ritual we don’t know, and the entire soul which we don’t have
Only known by gods and Yharim and I doubt either would tell you.
what if the ritual is just you eat it
It’s likely more complicated then that
eat yharon
Slave Knight Gael reference
kfc
A complex ritual you make to absorbe the power of the soul and erase the dragon from existence
I'm pretty sure Yharim will use Yharon's flame in his fight.
But what about yharon's MAIN ability? The ability that he was named after.
damn
Yharim is a melee fighter
Also fun fact
He had everything in his favour when ascending
Perfect ascension
Strong ascender and strongest dragon
Has had centuries to gain power and skill
AURIC AMALGAMATION
you fuse your own power with dragon power
That's such a cool concept I'll just steal it
so u become like twice as strong
I guess so yeah, just not as drastic as dbz one
Mostly yeah
It xeroc had a perfect ascension so he was likely even stronger then both combined
what is xeroc the god of?
Xeroc had a perfect ascension in every way and he's about the peak of the Calamity universe meaning that Xeroc is practically the strongest you can possibly get in the Calamity universe.
Hm
The sun(primordial light)
That’s odd
perfect ascension?
Light (Primordial light)
Xeratros is dragon of light
Because ravager seems to maybe be two auric souls which makes it more powerful than it was originally?
I guess that’s just theory though

Zeratros is the dragon king of primordial light.
Stronger version of a normal ascension that lets you have same domain as your dragon (only xeroc and silva have done it)
They be spreading misinformation
It’s zeratros not xeratros
was silva as strong as xeroc?
no
I forgot how his name spell =w=

