lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

lore.

calamitas screwed up big time

[indigo glade]

I'm going to blow up several nations.

[pliant ruin]

calamitas screwed up big time (she forgot her oven on)

[split mortar]

Did silva make him armour a size or two too big

[dusk laurel]

wow.

[split mortar]

What is the lore on braelor having oversized armour

[dusk laurel]

she forgot to turn off the stove?

is that how she got brimstone powers?

[pliant ruin]

she burnt her food 💔

[rotund shore]

she moved into the terrarians house and the cave or wherever the fuck she was living beforehand was just, burning

[indigo glade]

Braelor is just big like that.

[dusk laurel]

brimmy fed into the stove

[rotund shore]

where WAS calamitas living before becoming an NPC

[indigo glade]

A cave.

[pliant ruin]

a cave

[split mortar]

A cave

[dusk laurel]

cave.

[pliant ruin]

canonically, a cave

[rotund shore]

wow I was right

[dusk laurel]

cave woman

that has free fire

[split mortar]

-# anywhere else would get burnt

[dusk laurel]

and trauma

[pliant ruin]

she is NOT beating the allegations

[split mortar]

-# and the stone prob did burn a bit aswell

[dusk laurel]

girlfailure?

[split mortar]

Girl fail?

[pliant ruin]

yes

[split mortar]

Scal girlfail

[rotund shore]

gaslight girlfailure gatekeep

[indigo glade]

Calamitas is a cat person, I believe that is grounds for girlfailure branding.

[dusk laurel]

wharm

[pliant ruin]

girlfailures do tend to be more cat coded than dog coded i can confirm

[dusk laurel]

huh

[indigo glade]

Yes, like you.

[pliant ruin]

Like me.

[tall delta]

Oh yeah his axe

[dusk laurel]

personal experience?

[warm gull]

cal is homeless

[split mortar]

Accurate?

[dusk laurel]

oh okay

[rotund shore]

I think dogs actually fail at things more often, but thats because they do things more

cats just, vibe

[split mortar]

(Popcorn made)

[tall delta]

i forgot what was told about his axe haha

[warm gull]

never building her a house she gotta live on my front lawn

[pliant ruin]

his axe was made of silva magic or osmething idk

silva made it

[dusk laurel]

silva weaved it or smth idk

[split mortar]

We know it was made like draedon using plasma jets for Thanatos armour

[dusk laurel]

i forgorm

[tall delta]

yeah something with silva i guess

[indigo glade]

Orange cats are just an entire species of failures.

0 braincells.

[dusk laurel]

the tabbies?

[indigo glade]

No brain activity.

[split mortar]

I have two oranges in my house :/

[warm gull]

orange cat's are mostly male

[indigo glade]

They are not thinking.

[warm gull]

just like how calicos are mostly female

[indigo glade]

I bet they run into walls.

[dusk laurel]

i have no cats...

[warm gull]

I had a calico before she was brutally executed in the street by heart failure

[dusk laurel]

my house is empty

[indigo glade]

oh

[split mortar]

[indigo glade]

thats not a fun fact at all

thats not fun

[warm gull]

currently I have jelly beans

[split mortar]

Yeah it not fun

[warm gull]

you want some jelly beans

[dusk laurel]

no.

[warm gull]

wtf

[dusk laurel]

i want purified gel

[split mortar]

You have your own jelly beans, you get the most condensed happi then

[dusk laurel]

not jellified beans

[dusk laurel]

monstrous. almost catastrophic. maybe even calamitous if i have to say

[split mortar]

Calamitous?

[dusk laurel]

he is a paranoid bastard

[dusk laurel]

wide old scal

[warm gull]

slime gourd

[dusk laurel]

she looks older in her old sprite ngl

like the new one makes her look like she's in her midlife crisis

[split mortar]

She is like mid to late twenties and already has grey hair

[warm gull]

she looks terrariapilled

she has white hair by default

[split mortar]

Yeah, stress is a bitch for her

Stressed in the womb

[dusk laurel]

azafurians are always stressed

[split mortar]

(Don’t send me to the doc goose)

[dusk laurel]

they live near the demons

the wretched ones

[split mortar]

Xeroc destroying the distortion like demon slayer

I shall headcanon it

[dusk laurel]

xeroc is a force of nature to me

[warm gull]

why didn't xeroc kill the moon lord is he stupid

[dusk laurel]

he's just there

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

wonder what xeroc proposal is

perhaps money

[dusk laurel]

he does know

[split mortar]

Xeroc may have thought they aren’t strong enough

[warm gull]

please don't explain it to me I already knkw

god dammit

[dusk laurel]

ik

[rotund shore]

marriage is what brings us all together

[spring helm]

tax cuts if you kill noxus

[tall delta]

true...

[dusk laurel]

YOOOOOOOOO

[warm gull]

melon gun I'm exploding you to death

💥

[split mortar]

A polycule with noxus idk

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

i'm in

[warm gull]

this guy wants to get on that doc

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[dusk laurel]

explodiarus calamitous

[spring helm]

melon are you trying to get put in that doc

[rotund shore]

chat would yall marry xeroc
actually no lets not discuss this

[dusk laurel]

no.

he's my landlord

[split mortar]

No it’s just past midnight so I’m sleepy enough to not have much of a filter when it comes to random shit like that

[warm gull]

what if xeroc just wants you to be their friend and their proposal is "will you be my friend"

[dusk laurel]

xeroc lonely fr

[rotund shore]

idk if id be friends with him

[dusk laurel]

he should touch some grass

[split mortar]

(I won’t say shit like the other guy did with scal)

[spring helm]

themfailure xeroc

[rotund shore]

enbyfailure...

[spring helm]

"Where the fuck is Noxus I've been searching for 800 years"

[dusk laurel]

xeroc is a lone wolf. [NOT IN THAT WAY]

he is just lonely

[warm gull]

people are fr at the point where they are creating character archetypes that are just losers so that they can be relatable 😭

[spring helm]

GRAAAAHHH!!! THE PRIMORDIAL BEAST WITHIN IS BREAKING OUT!!!

[split mortar]

Is that not liek, the chainsaw man main characters

[dusk laurel]

my god.

[spring helm]

what

[dusk laurel]

^

[spring helm]

yeah im alpha like that

[split mortar]

Ok jared

Who the fuck teleported in your lawn

[warm gull]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[dusk laurel]

i shouldn't have said that.

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1287838237435629661/CataclysmPunchingSpeed.gif

Die

[dusk laurel]

the consequences of my actions...

[warm gull]

mudamudamudamudamuda

[dusk laurel]

they are truly unmatched

[warm gull]

I wonder how many people would get angry if I used a single gen alpha slang word rn

skibidi

[indigo glade]

Die.

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

[spring helm]

erm, what the sigma

[split mortar]

IN

THE

FUCKING

EELS

[split mortar]

Pay up

[spring helm]

monday left me broken...

[warm gull]

tuesday I was done with hopin

[spring helm]

is that blackbeard

[dusk laurel]

idk

it's just some dude

[warm gull]

sigma beard

[dusk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-skull-emoji-ghost-rider-eyebrow-raise-gif-12145425610192211553

okay i'll stop with the gifs and images

[spring helm]

mods, kill this thing

[split mortar]

Sicc the bird in them

[rotund shore]

the fuck is that

[spring helm]

horse

[split mortar]

Horse mouth bird

[dusk laurel]

birb

[tall delta]

the bird

[spring helm]

it's Borb

[split mortar]

No it’s what happens when you don’t pay xeroc tax

[dusk laurel]

from terraria clamity mod pbg tier patreon???????

noway.

he has a 2nd form

[spring helm]

phase 2

[split mortar]

And it’s terrifying

Damn

He really doing good in the world

[dusk laurel]

he's so dedicated, he became part of the unrighteous

[magic epoch]

im amethyst

[dusk laurel]

the horse mouth birds.

[magic epoch]

(this is crucial to understanding calamity lore)

[split mortar]

So is taxes and horse mouth birds

[rotund shore]

am I crucial to calamity lore

[dusk laurel]

amethyst is ourple.

yes.

you are indeed.

[split mortar]

Tbh

Me and vanillin going on about xeroc tax for like an hour a few days ago is prob enough to be on the doc many times over

[dusk laurel]

okay i need to shower

don't call me stinky

[rotund shore]

the only doc is that im gona dock your pay, get back to work /silly

the calamity lore mines will have to work overtime after this slacking off

[dusk laurel]

the mines...

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

i forgot.

[indigo glade]

Prometheus.

[rotund shore]

While I make this joke, have it be known that im entirely thinking of this vidhttps://youtu.be/cz3FW6MTjjM

[warm gull]

sigmore

[dusk laurel]

no way.

you watch doudoug too?

[split mortar]

But sir, we have extracted all the lore ore

[spring helm]

looking at the reference images, i've been drawing Calamitas' horns too big

[split mortar]

Same

[warm gull]

loric ore

[split mortar]

The only things left is theories and hypotheses

Nothing of value

[warm gull]

uh

[dusk laurel]

moonlord is a tacos guy

[warm gull]

here's a lore drop

moon lord didn't give birth to noxus

[rotund shore]

the lore economy is in a recession, SSO will save our jobs

[rotund shore]

damnit! the lack of mpreg will ruin our stocks

[dusk laurel]

🙏

please save us SSO

[split mortar]

Ah so if we were to marry into the noxus xeroc polycule moonlord wouldn’t become our legal father

Good

[indigo glade]

Look in the Bestiary and find something new.

[dusk laurel]

stocks?

[rotund shore]

stocks will go in the docs

[dusk laurel]

[i'm not doing that convo again]

[it was an hour long]

[split mortar]

Neither am I

If they’re curious just search xeroc tax

It’s like legit 70% of the word being said

[dusk laurel]

need to shower...

bye for real

[split mortar]

No ones being active
Are they looking for xeroc tax?

Byeee stinker

[dusk laurel]

[rotund shore]

xeroc tax has been said 96 times

[warm gull]

I got flashbacks when someone said the word polycule

I have to leave calmain now to make a statement

[dusk laurel]

NO

[split mortar]

Nooooo

[dusk laurel]

don't spread our secrets

[rotund shore]

whenever I hear polycule/polyamory I think of that one scott the woz joke

[warm gull]

whenever I ghear that word I get the urge to train someone to kill my as a form of yharicide

bye

[split mortar]

Better pay the xeroc tax soon though

[rotund shore]

I feel so primordial light, I feel so xeroc tax

[split mortar]

That won’t make them any cheaper sir

[rotund shore]

mfers have to beat boss rush to get tax breaks 😔

[split mortar]

He doesn’t even give them out anymore

[dusk laurel]

wat.

[split mortar]

Oh you back from shower

Or bath

Idk

[dusk laurel]

ueag.

grand eye of the seer

that is my employment

[split mortar]

Lucky

[lone moss]

I'll probably repeat my question from earlier. How characters from "How to Train Your Dragon" franchise fare in Calamity setting?

[frosty shale]

die because they try to train yharon and it does not go well

[hot valve]

I have questions for the writers when I see one next

Lore..

[spare pier]

Hi

I'm writers

[dusk laurel]

She is writers

[visual kiln]

what doc

add me to the doc

i wanna be put there

[spring helm]

pHGoose has a google doc of stuff from this channel

[visual kiln]

link it

[spring helm]

there is no link

it's private

[spring helm]

Bebecca if you and Anahita got into a fight, would you lose?

[spare pier]

Yes

[spring helm]

dang

just like that?

[hot valve]

Hi reb aka writers

My question, if you can answer, is:

How does the Devourer speak? Is it telepathic? Or does he manage to speak the same language as everyone else with whatever…vocal cords there are?

And also: what does his voice sound like?

[spare pier]

He speaks through unspecified telepathy. Some writers prefer to view it was literally projecting his voice onto your head

His voice is up to interpretation, a lot of people have different opions on it

[hot valve]

Interesting, thank you for answering!

[spring helm]

non-canon funny answer, he couldn't for a good while and Draedon had to install speakers into his armour

[dusk laurel]

thank you popcorn

[spring helm]

Tier 5 Draedon arsenal

[rotund shore]

does calamitas pay xeroc taxes

[dusk laurel]

no

that's why her brimstone magic makes her insane over time

[sinful adder]

Silva didn't want to pay Xeroc taxes for the sunlight for her plants and that's why she's locked in the abyss

[humble fog]

Xeraxes

[frozen stag]

hi lorums

what is new

[frozen stag]

chat

I think signus might be using the rouge clas in lore

[spring helm]

crazy

[sleek halo]

well now the opposite will happen

[cold owl]

Quick power-scaling question

How strong is Silva?

-She's the Goddess of Life, an elemental, and the first Dryad.

-Silva is also the goddess of Braelor, who is very powerful, having tanked Yharim's attacks (prior to his exo upgrade).

-She gave the Primordial Wyrm some power, making it stronger than even Calamitas.

-She also empowered the Abyss.

-However, Yharim managed to “kill” her, so she's below him in power (though it's unclear if this was before or after his exo upgrade).

Where do you think she ranks? Is she on the level of Yharon, Calamitas, between the two, or somewhere else?

[gaunt sluice]

she still made the abyss better after she frickin died too

[pliant ruin]

It's impossible to really know how strong silva herself is with the current information we have but it's safe to infer based on everything we have plus the fact her associated items are on-tier with devourer's items taht she was one of the strongest gods, if not possibly the strongest we know beside Xeroc themselves

It's not confirmed but it seems highly plausible

[gaunt sluice]

yeah

[frosty shale]

silva is definitely one of the strongest entities in calamity, probably stronger than calamitas

[gaunt sluice]

I mean Braelor was able to fight Yharim off alongside Statis

[cold owl]

This was before the exo upgrade his suit got

[gaunt sluice]

still tho, it was a duo effort, it wasn't only Braelor, so Yharim still might be higher on the power scale

[pliant ruin]

Braelor and Yharim were likely almost equal prior to Yharim's exo upgrades

Do keep in mind Statis was more so acting as support

[pliant ruin]

Dunno if i'd say that with certainty

[cold owl]

Draedon created the exo mechs to match Yharim in power when they last met (before exo upgrade). So before his upgrade he was probably around exo mechs/cal level but after the exo boost he got the edge on exo mechs/cal.

[pliant ruin]

I wouldn't discard the possibility but do keep in mind even though she's a stinky girlfailure calamitas is insanely powerful and probably the 2nd strongest mortal before you showed up

[sinful adder]

Silva is stronger than yharim, just not in direct combat.

[pliant ruin]

She is more durable than yharim

She is more durable than pretty much everyone

[sinful adder]

Power scaling is stupid and bad and wrong

[gaunt sluice]

she is very fricking durable

[pliant ruin]

But we don't have enough information to confidently say that she's stronger than yharim

[frosty shale]

I don't think Silva would've been able to defeat Yharim but I don't think Yharim could beat her either

[sinful adder]

She is incapable of fully dying

[frosty shale]

From what we know, such a conflict would probably end in stalemate

[sinful adder]

Because she's an elemental

[pliant ruin]

Well

[gaunt sluice]

i mean she's frickin unalive now

[pliant ruin]

Yharim did beat her

so

[frosty shale]

oh, must've missed that part

[pliant ruin]

He didn't kill her but that's because she's sorta

unkillable

[gaunt sluice]

unknown with help or not

[frosty shale]

i still forget new lore sometimes

[gaunt sluice]

afaik

[sinful adder]

Braelor was one hit from killing yharim, and yharim would have died if DoG didn't get a sneak attack in

[pliant ruin]

Nothing really indicates he had any external help so it's safe to say with what we know rn it was a 1v1

[cold owl]

I feel like it really depends if Yharim "killed" her before or after his exo upgrade since if it was before she probably places on the same tier as the exo mechs

[sinful adder]

Silva with prep time could kill Yharim

[pliant ruin]

After he got his exo upgrade he sort of left for the aerie

So probably the former

[pliant ruin]

Is this a joke or

The way it's phrased really makes it seem like a joke

[sinful adder]

We don't even know if yharim "killed" Silva directly. It could have been yharim and Yharon and an entire army

[pliant ruin]

Well yeah

but that's

baseless speculation

[sinful adder]

If you could training a champion as prep, its serious

[pliant ruin]

Well

for one

training someone to be really strong does not necessarily mean you're really strong

second

she didn't even train him, not as far as we know anyways

she blessed him

alot of baseless speculation being treated as facts here

[cold owl]

Considering Draedon claims his exo mechs could kill all of the gods (Xeroc is an exception since he has no knowledge of his existence) I feel like she places at the same tier or just barely below them

I doubt Draedon didn't know of the goddess of life

[pliant ruin]

I think it's safe to say Silva would probably be around Devourer or a little higher

She could be weaker or stronger

by all means

but from what we know

[cold owl]

I feel like Silva would be right below exo mechs

[pliant ruin]

i think that's the most plausible bet rn

[cold owl]

Or Yharon level

[pliant ruin]

I can see her being close to Yharon

[cold owl]

But I think she was stronger than Yharon by a tiny bit

But then again he is the second strongest dragon in history

[sinful adder]

Let's try a different argument

The brimstone elemental used to be equal to calamitas in power, before she lost and maybe had her power taken or something

[pliant ruin]

I wouldn't be surprised if Death/Life dragons were up there in the ranking of things

given

yknow

they're the dragons of life and death

[sinful adder]

Silva is also an elemental, and also has the power of a god, and a perfect ascension at that

[cold owl]

It's because they both used Brimstone magic, calamitas was far stronger.

[sinful adder]

Silva should be stronger than Calamitas

[gaunt sluice]

idk if we know brimmy was that strong

[pliant ruin]

I don't think brimmy even at her prime

would be that strong lol

Calamitas didn't just

suddenly get as powerful as she is now

she had

years of training

[gaunt sluice]

life death and rebirth, the perfect trio

[pliant ruin]

under permafrost

and field experience

[sinful adder]

This is not how I read it. It seems implied that Calamitas specifically stole her power from brimmy

[cold owl]

Plus she was akined to the elemental in some way

[gaunt sluice]

unconfirmed, but implied

[pliant ruin]

I do think

[hot valve]

iirc reb make a ranking earlier

[pliant ruin]

brimmy probably was stronger in the past

but i do not think past brimmy would be

anywhere near

current scal

[gaunt sluice]

well we know she at least got her powers from somewhere

[sinful adder]

I think she would

[pliant ruin]

I can see prime brimmy being like

[gaunt sluice]

i mean she matched child Cal when she woke up

[pliant ruin]

polterghast level

at best

[hot valve]

god rankings from strongest to weakest

that we've encountered

[sinful adder]

Makes sense

[pliant ruin]

god of sacrifices

tahts my goat

[gaunt sluice]

so cal might have got powers from brim before she woke up, but then we still can't know how good either were

[sinful adder]

We know this explicitly isn't the case

She gained her powers exactly when brimmy woke up

[cold owl]

One question I have is how is the God of Sacrifices below Provi when ravager will be post provi

[gaunt sluice]

i mean where does it say that

[cold owl]

Ravager is a mangled mindless version of G.o.S

[sinful adder]

Draedon says she could not have had that power beforehand

[pliant ruin]

Well

but does anywhere

say

instantly

like yeah she got the powers from brimmy

but does anywhere specifically say

she got them instantly

[sinful adder]

Doesn't have to be literally instant

[gaunt sluice]

that was leading to his point that she for the power from somewhere

[pliant ruin]

but

you literally said

exactly when brimmy woke up

[sinful adder]

Sorry, I worded that poorly

[pliant ruin]

oh ok

fair enough

[sinful adder]

It could be no earlier than brimmy waking up

[pliant ruin]

yeah she definitely didn't have her powers beforehand

[cold owl]

I see why you think Silva is stronger than cal but draedon said that his mechs who are the same level of power as calamitas could kill any God (Xeroc is an exception)

[hot valve]

people asked this

[gaunt sluice]

honestly I'd say exos might slightly outclass Cal but that might just be me sucking at exos

[hot valve]

basic idea is that Ravager may have more than meets the eye

[pliant ruin]

lore-wise they're supposed to be about equal

[gaunt sluice]

I think they're reclassing some stuff

[hot valve]

likely thing? it has two auric souls

[pliant ruin]

wow

one could even

one could even say.

that given the fact it has two auric souls and is a rather brutish barbaric creature

its .its a

feral

[hot valve]

some suggest that the God of Blood was used as a sacrifice for the revival ritual

[pliant ruin]

amalgamation

[hot valve]

LOL

hence why ravager has a lot of drops that relate to the Blood God

[cold owl]

In one of the docs they are classified as Calamitas = Exo mechs in powerscaling.

But I see why exo mechs would have the tuny edge since its a 4 v 1

[hot valve]

god of sacrifices and god of blood also feel naturally connected

could both gods have been siblings originally?

[gaunt sluice]

if they all just went at it at the same time

[cold owl]

Only then

It would take all of them

[pliant ruin]

god of blood and god of sacrifices actually really fucking hated eachother because they had entirely opposing philosophies and now they're forced to stay in the same mangled corpse together and that's why ravager is so fucking angry

[hot valve]

lmaoo

[keen plank]

Exo def harder

I dont even know what was going on on my screen

When the 3 mechs pull up

Scal is easier

Minions carried me hard

[pliant ruin]

they were talking about lore

[real silo]

It's not a 4 v 1 because cal has her own minions that she summons

brothers, sepulcher, supreme seekers and the maelstrom

[cold owl]

Ya I though of that but left it out since they aren't necessarily as strong as even an individual mech

They could separate them but wouldn't really stand much of a chance

[real silo]

They still exist

All of those minions and scal combined are the same as the exos combined

[cold owl]

Plus this was a response to this comment saying that i see why they would think that (I also believe Cal prob has a tiny edge and I consider her stronger)

[pliant ruin]

i think it depends on a coin flip

if it lands heads scal wins if it lands tails exos win

[untold oracle]

How powerful is Yharim without the armor?

[cold owl]

He would be very significantly weaker prob like not even top ten on the powerscale anymore.

[pliant ruin]

Nah that's

not quite right

Even without his armor he's kind of insanely strong

do remember he not only fought a war for basicaly 100 years he also is attuned to yharon

He'd be significantly weaker but saying he's not even on the top 10 is a massive exageration

[untold oracle]

I’m pretty sure Yharim’s sword is coated in auric if not straight up made from it

So ppl can aurejected too

[cold owl]

Yharim with his armor ( without exo upgrade) is about equal to calamitad and exo mechs (Draedon created the exo mechs to match Yharim in strength before he got his upgrade)

[cold owl]

Yharim even without armor would be extremely strong around top 10 but the fact that we have characters like

-Xeroc
-Fovos
-Noxus
-Calamitas
-Exo mechs
-Silva
-Yharon
-Braelor
-Statis

Yharim with his armor (before his upgrade) is calamitas level and after his exo upgrade only then was he significantly stronger

[pliant ruin]

Statis probably isn't in the top 10 tbh

He's not much of a brawler

[cold owl]

I see statis as like 15 - 20 on the list or something I just included him because I included braelor

[pliant ruin]

As unlikely as it is i thnk it'd be really funny if yharim could beat DoG even without his auric armor purely because it's funny to see dog be humbled by people

[untold oracle]

I’m gonna write so that dog’s second phase is fought in the distortion, I’m also going to make him say that he created the place

[cold owl]

I think without his armor he would be around DOG. His auric is significantly stronger than our auric and even our auric is op af. Plus his auric also got implemented with exo which is the sole reason Yharim got that power gap from Cal

Laggy phone rn my typing is crap I'll fix the sentence

Should be comprehendable now

[cold owl]

Hope this atleast helped answered your question

Yharim with auric armor is cal/exo mech level

While with his exo implementation is significantly stronger than cal/exo

Without his armor entirely he would atleast be under Cal in power but I think he would also be under Braelor

[hot valve]

What do you all set as your terrarian’s lore?

[untold oracle]

Lived in a secluded tundra village until Providence came and killed everything and everyone she loved, then lived as a scavenger for 4 years before starting to set influence on the region and founding a kingdom

[hot valve]

Very neat

[untold oracle]

Do you guys think old lore did some aspects better than the new one?

[pliant ruin]

Self insert lol,,,

[hot valve]

The cheese in terrarriaa

[untold oracle]

Chease

[cold owl]

Honestly, I never really thought of are for my character but now you got me inspired.

I've always went with the very little Canon we have

Speaking of lore tho, one thing that's been at the back of my mind for a while is why does Yharim "whisper" to us and tell us stories about himself and his crusade so early into the playthrough when we were a nobody.

[mighty zenith]

i think the elementals were more interesting as individuals

but ehh

i dont think every boss needs a deeper backstory

elementals being mostly worldbuilding is something im fine with

[untold oracle]

Maybe he finds you an interesting specimen and after you progress into more powerful he’s like ”oh cool”

[cold owl]

That's probably the best answer we'll get for this.

At the point of the game where you come in he's just sitting at the aerie bored so I don't put it behind him to just spectate the world at that point.

[random mulch]

reposting yhim because yeah

[split mortar]

Yharm

[hoary berry]

it's yhim

[split mortar]

Yhim

[hoary berry]

thinking about this still
i might use this general structure for a few more scenes preceding certain boss fights

particularly, fights that have a very strong link to yharim's actions (which is a lot)

[split mortar]

That’s like half the bosses

[hoary berry]

yeah 💀

but like, polty has a very strong link to yharim's actions since it's the direct result of his negligence towards the dungeon

[split mortar]

Yuh

[hoary berry]

YuH

[untold oracle]

Yhim

[split mortar]

What’s the opposite of YuH

[hoary berry]

i might make a spreadsheet for the order in which OCs fight bosses

[split mortar]

nUh?

[hoary berry]

nAh

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah vcmm update dropped btw

[split mortar]

Nice

[untold oracle]

Some of the tracks have been revamped

[split mortar]

I don’t use it :/

should i

[untold oracle]

Yeah I recommend

[split mortar]

Aight

[hoary berry]

vcmm is awesome

[split mortar]

I like vanilla music a bunch so I never saw the need for vcmm or any other calamity music replacing vanilla music things

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah btw

How does wulfrum prosthesis drain mana

From enemies

[split mortar]

Don’t think we know

And I woke up not that long ago so I don’t think I will be good with making theory rn

[hoary berry]

this is just a headcanon that i wrote right now, but:
Wulfrum Prosthesis: its ability to drain mana relies on a mechanical component to create a miniature vortex in the air, which serves to assist a basic runic array that temporarily makes the palm attract ambient mana—or the mana of a creature, should it be close enough and its mana poorly-defended. This mana is then stored in a sector of the limb’s energy core to be used when the owner wishes. Although it requires several components and processes to function, it is revealed to be a surprisingly simple contraption when broken down, with the most complex part of the machine being the runes on the core that allow it to recognise the owner’s wish to absorb mana.

[untold oracle]

Cool

[split mortar]

You good at writing

[hoary berry]

i wouldn't really call that writing (in the sense of a story, at least) but thanks :)

[hoary berry]

deciding on which colour each OC's name should have is unironically the hardest thing i've done today

[untold oracle]

I’m deviating a little from the actual order of bosses I did

In reality I did crabulon before eow but doing eow first kinda makes sense considering the situation I’m writing

[hoary berry]

#lore-discussion message i think i want to try to expand on this idea

eye of cthulhu is what spawned that idea, so i'll probably have that fight be a swarm version

though idk where in progression i would shift it to

maybe in between evil-1 and evil-2

to break those apart a bit

[untold oracle]

So will SSO fully rewrite vanilla bestiary?

[indigo glade]

No.

[pliant ruin]

It'll rewrite the entries that developers feel like should be changed

such as

things that directly contradict the mod's lore

or

things that are just really uninteresting but have potential

[random mulch]

scourge skeleton cause why not

[indigo glade]

Can I make a xylophone out of its bones?

[random mulch]

if you try

[split mortar]

The corpse Swiss spears in second’s so you better be quick

[random mulch]

i need undead scourge miniboss in timeless shores

corpses of ilmerian scourges that didnt survive the incineration

[split mortar]

Would be sick

[worthy sierra]

Is cynosure the player's lore item

[dusk laurel]

yharim yaps about us yeah

[split mortar]

Refer to this image about anything related to the terrarians lore (we always suck at naming though)

[dusk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bnuy-bunny-bnuuy-gif-26529152

there you go :3

[stoic gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-happy-easter-disaster-april-fools-day-fluffy-gif-11463156

die bnuy >:3

[dusk laurel]

okay

[split mortar]

Exo bnuy

[dusk laurel]

WHAT

[stoic gulch]

:3

[dusk laurel]

I'M GONNA SEND YOU TO THE EELS

[stoic gulch]

IM ALREADY THERE

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

[stoic gulch]

YOU CANT STOP ME

[split mortar]

You will go deeper in

[dusk laurel]

120%

[stoic gulch]

im with the eels cuz i forgot my xeroc tax

[dusk laurel]

huh

then...

[proud harbor]

i have an interesting theory

[dusk laurel]

i'm employing you to mine salt in the eel pit

herm

nvm

[stoic gulch]

nah

i aint alive

[split mortar]

Yah

[stoic gulch]

im a skeleton

thats my punishment

[dusk laurel]

WRONG ❌❌❌

[split mortar]

Evidently you are alive

[dusk laurel]

i sent you to eternal damnation

[stoic gulch]

AUDIBEL GASP

[dusk laurel]

you're not getting out of this that easily

[proud harbor]

yharon was only able to survive cause he is the dragon of rebirth and doesnt need the auric soul, so what if the player was the one to absorb his soul and thats why he can revive over and over again

[stoic gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[dusk laurel]

he needs the auric soul tho

it's the source of his powers of rebirth

[split mortar]

The auric soul is why he revives

He is the rebirth one, he revives the others

[proud harbor]

every dragon can revive till their soul is ok

[dusk laurel]

your puny tricks shall not work on me

[proud harbor]

only they got absorbed

[real silo]

Eeler

[split mortar]

Yharon has to revive them

[dusk laurel]

yharon revives them

[scenic olive]

exokide

[real silo]

Eel, eeler, yet eeler

[scenic olive]

wtf

explode

[proud harbor]

oh old lore?

[split mortar]

He revives himself with his auric power aswell basically

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-rap-wd-gaster-wingblings-wd-gaster-rap-gaster-rapping-gif-26169076

[stoic gulch]

nuh uh

[stoic gulch]

IM WING GASTER

[proud harbor]

cause minimum in old lore it states yharon doesnt needs auric soul to rebirth

[dusk laurel]

really?

[proud harbor]

yea

[dusk laurel]

old lore had auric souls?

[proud harbor]

idk if its in new Lore to

[split mortar]

In current lore his auric soul is his soul, if he isn’t auric he would die like any other being

[dusk laurel]

new lore has auric souls

[sinful adder]

Old lore didn't even have auric souls I'm pretty sure

[real silo]

Old lore didn't have auric siuls

Disney

[dusk laurel]

disney.

[stoic gulch]

me when i eat chicken nugget souls

[split mortar]

Maybe it was a misinterpretation idk

[sinful adder]

Fucking autocorrect

Yeah, your soul is you. Can't revive without it

[proud harbor]

well then how didn't his soul got absorbed when every other dragons got

[sinful adder]

We don't know

He escaped for a long time, probably

[dusk laurel]

his soul escapes to the aerie really quickly

[real silo]

He a sneaky

[split mortar]

We don’t know, maybe his can’t be absorbed since he has the revive process automatically idk

[dusk laurel]

but there was a time

when he almost got absorbed

[proud harbor]

POV: providence

[split mortar]

Yharim said no though

[worthy sierra]

Then why did the gods make yharim get yharons soul

[dusk laurel]

yes

that's why i said almost

[sinful adder]

Maybe they killed him but chose not to, specifically so they could get the last soul to the right person

[sinful adder]

They wanted to make a really strong god to be the king

[proud harbor]

yharim didn't absorbed yharons soul

[dusk laurel]

it was the closest he got to dying probably

[worthy sierra]

I mean the lore items are literally just yharim pulling a "trust me bro"

[worthy sierra]

I know

Thought it was a given

[stoic gulch]

oh shit oh damn you really did raise my xeroc rax

[split mortar]

Idk it was just a theory I made quickly

[stoic gulch]

5000 rocks

[split mortar]

There’s people who believe yharim and that he is a good guy

[worthy sierra]

Yharon soul fragments

[dusk laurel]

that isn't auric

just his soul's fragments

[split mortar]

Don’t think they were auric though, just that yharon had a strong soul or something

[worthy sierra]

Either way I don't think old lore has any mention of auric souls

[sinful adder]

Old lore didn't have auric souls

[worthy sierra]

Ffs dragonfolly was a failed yharon clone in old lore

[sinful adder]

It had auric metal but that was a completely different thing

[split mortar]

What was auric ore in old lore

Just strong metal?

[sinful adder]

Yeah

God metal or something

[split mortar]

:/

[proud harbor]

i dont rly think it had changed

[worthy sierra]

Also I'm pretty sure yharons egg was found by yharims mother or something and only hatched because lava

old lore is wack

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[proud harbor]

these lore changes are a mess

[split mortar]

Ye it is

[dusk laurel]

they really aren't

[split mortar]

They aren’t

[sinful adder]

It is a lot less of a mess than it was before

[dusk laurel]

old lore was really convoluted

[sinful adder]

You just have to actually read it

[dusk laurel]

and half of it was behind discord messages

[worthy sierra]

Old lore xeroc was capital g god not small g

[split mortar]

Only really a mess if you don’t know it all or mix it with old lore

[sinful adder]

Throw out everything you knew about old lore

[proud harbor]

It was found by some cultist that wanted yharim to absorb it

[cloud ibex]

no that's new lore

[split mortar]

That’s new lore

[sinful adder]

No, this is just not true

That is a mix of old and new lore

[dusk laurel]

[sinful adder]

Throw out everything you know about old lore

And read the lore doc

[worthy sierra]

Me when I curse SCal or something (old lore is wack)

[sinful adder]

Or play the game

[worthy sierra]

New lore actually has a ton more information ingame and not locked behind scrolling hours in #lore-discussion

[sinful adder]

True

[worthy sierra]

SSO will bring a lot more lore ingame too

[dusk laurel]

me when braelor and statis had no purpose in old lore

[sinful adder]

I've been waiting years for SSO and it's finally almost here!

[worthy sierra]

Now it's a gay couple in calamity

[dusk laurel]

based

bring in the floodgates

[worthy sierra]

Old lore braelor and statis was just "mghhh i want to EAT them" -devourer of gods

[dusk laurel]

yummers

[real silo]

Can't believe SSO is actually real this time

[sinful adder]

Speaking of, it looks like SSO will also have the final real awesome DoG update

[worthy sierra]

Real?

[split mortar]

Wha

[real silo]

Real?

[split mortar]

I thought that was distortion update

[untold oracle]

Maybe the SSO were the friends we made along the way

[dusk laurel]

no.

[worthy sierra]

Dog getting resprited for the 1 millionth time letsgooo

[dusk laurel]

DoG will be in distortion update

not sso

[sinful adder]

Just based on the stuff in announcements and twitter

[dusk laurel]

🫤

[sinful adder]

Oh

[real silo]

The only thing I heard in terms of resprites is OD

[worthy sierra]

OD?

[untold oracle]

And slime god

[real silo]

Mold duke

[split mortar]

Old duke

[dusk laurel]

OD, DS, crabulon and SG are the only bosses getting resprited

in sso

the rest are just getting changes or tweaks

[real silo]

Crabber too?

[dusk laurel]

to their fights

[real silo]

Damn

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[worthy sierra]

Who cooked here

[real silo]

I'm excited for OD weapon reworks

[split mortar]

Heart plus up!

[dusk laurel]

heart plus up

[worthy sierra]

Boomerfish resprite ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[sinful adder]

I remember back when they added the sunken sea in the first place, it was awesome. Then they changed it all and made the rocks blue, that was even cooler but kinda different

[real silo]

The idea of making them built for killing yharon is sick as hell

[sinful adder]

Now they're changing all the sprites a third time I guess?

[worthy sierra]

Wait since when was SS not blue!!!!

[split mortar]

Most recent wip iirc

[dusk laurel]

old man

he mistreats his kids

[sinful adder]

Honestly can't remember, it's been such a long time

[worthy sierra]

What's with the duke fishron old duke hybrid

[split mortar]

Bottom left?

[real silo]

It's been a year since SS sprites got resprited

[split mortar]

Master/ rev pet

[worthy sierra]

Top left

[dusk laurel]

thats a servant

a normal fishron

[split mortar]

Minion for the boss

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

It’s a normal child fishron

[worthy sierra]

Boomerfish

[dusk laurel]

malnourishedron

[split mortar]

Accessory brim resprite

[worthy sierra]

Lowerincomeron

[split mortar]

(Preferred the old one but that’s just me)

[dusk laurel]

i love Calamity Spoiler Talk!

[split mortar]

:)

[pliant ruin]

sunken sea was Blue Rocks since the start

[sinful adder]

Ok wait I think I might be going insane

[pliant ruin]

curse of monopalette

[worthy sierra]

WHAT

[sinful adder]

I thought the sunken sea was once brown

[worthy sierra]

No more bouba brimmy 😭😭😭😭😭

[dusk laurel]

there will be so many critters and enemies being added or getting changes in SSO

[split mortar]

This the old one I’m referring to

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wtdg-wtdg2-chadalexander-strangle-entrail-gif-1354792657706489683

[dusk laurel]

die.

[pliant ruin]

bouba will be real with the boss itself probably

[dusk laurel]

yeah these brims that were shown are the accessory

not the boss herself

[worthy sierra]

Me when calamity community is #######

[sinful adder]

Elementals that look like naked ladies are a core part of the classic calamity mod vibe

[split mortar]

No more portable bouba brim

[worthy sierra]

😭

[split mortar]

Only exploding bomb

[pliant ruin]

dont say that word

bad

[sinful adder]

But also why would you ever make the boss sprite different from the accessory one if they're both supposed to be brimstone elemental?

[dusk laurel]

bad worbs

[sinful adder]

That seems weird

[split mortar]

The accessory is going to be more like it’s made if the element

[sinful adder]

And also weird that you get the elementals as minions in the first place

[dusk laurel]

it's because the elementals don't wanna work with you

[sinful adder]

Do you enslave them or something

[dusk laurel]

imagine you kick the shit out of brimmy

[split mortar]

Like how anahita is fish yet accessory is water

[pliant ruin]

because its an acessory idk

it does a acessory things

[dusk laurel]

them suddenly she's friends with you

[split mortar]

I think it’s just a enslaved fragment

[sinful adder]

Oh, so you're stealing a bit of their power and making your own fake elemental, I'm guessing?

[split mortar]

I think so

[worthy sierra]

I mean for the longest time I think HoTE was just fanservice

[sinful adder]

That makes sense

[pliant ruin]

it was

[sinful adder]

It is and I'm fine with it

Well, kind of

[worthy sierra]

HoTE for most if its history is pointless as shit unless you wanted calamity mod women to be around you

Rare sand ele heal is dogshit

[split mortar]

Silva excluded from the elementals polycule

[pliant ruin]

Aquatic Parasite

[split mortar]

It’s 7.5 health per second which is while decent not enough for when you get it

[worthy sierra]

Aquatic parasite

[sinful adder]

Yeah this is dumb, rare sand elemental should be replaced with like, a dryad or something

Wait actually

[dusk laurel]

what?

[pliant ruin]

my favorite elemental

[split mortar]

add silva to hote

[pliant ruin]

nurse elemental,,,

[dusk laurel]

they are NOT the life elemental

[sinful adder]

No sorry I mean

[dusk laurel]

add silva herself

[worthy sierra]

Will calclone forever be an eye or something

[pliant ruin]

nu

[dusk laurel]

no.

[split mortar]

Nu

[pliant ruin]

she'll get redesigned

eventually

[sinful adder]

Instead of having two sand elementals, have one of them be the life elemental

[dusk laurel]

getting reworked and redesigned

[worthy sierra]

I don't think calclone resprite is a priority for now ig

[dusk laurel]

probably on BCO

[pliant ruin]

probably not

coz theyre doing sunken sea stuff

[real silo]

Nature elemental DOES fit the healing aspect way better

[sinful adder]

What if the elemental accessory versions are the equivalents of dryads but for other elementals?

[worthy sierra]

Nooo I don't want to get one morbillion planty mush

Planty mush is the bane of my existence

[split mortar]

It’s scoria but higher up is it not

[worthy sierra]

Me when going down abyss is pure tedium and you take sulfur damage bcs of how slow water falling is

[sinful adder]

I'm going to cover your house in planty mush

[split mortar]

When iron boots

[sinful adder]

Apply flipper potion and iron boot

[dusk laurel]

planty mush armor

[split mortar]

Silva armour

[worthy sierra]

Silva armor

[sinful adder]

Instead of being armored via hard metal, be armored via an impenetrable layer of sludge that stops and absorbs any projectile before it reaches you

[split mortar]

Shut American

[pliant ruin]

i like abyss exploration tbh

[dusk laurel]

i'm american 😬

[pliant ruin]

its rly fun

[sinful adder]

I agree! I wish it wasn't so linear though

[worthy sierra]

I miss when scal fight was loud metal noises

[split mortar]

I don’t

[dusk laurel]

nah

just fight exos

[sinful adder]

That weirdly reminded me. I wish there was like... An accessory, or something, that made guns feel like a sort of quick shooting revolver that you can shoot faster with skill

[split mortar]

So daawnlight but you get a attack speed boost?

[pliant ruin]

they should add hair coupons

[sinful adder]

I imagine this might translate to having the abilities to attack faster by spam clicking instead of holding the button, and/or a reload mechanic where you click the attack button at the right time during a window to get a stat buff

[pliant ruin]

that sounds cool

[sinful adder]

Or the shooting timing minigame thingy from Undertale that the revolver uses

[pliant ruin]

but less of an acessory thing and more of a weapon thing

[sinful adder]

Play Enter The Gungeon, see how many awesome mechanics it has

[real silo]

no way thorium bard

[split mortar]

Yeah seems like a weapon thing not a accessory thing

[sinful adder]

So many cool mechanics are locked to a single shitty weapon you can only use for 30 minutes

[pliant ruin]

what do you guys think yharim would do if i stole his hair coupons

[dusk laurel]

he's bald

[sinful adder]

I want that to stop, and to have accessories that modify the way things work instead

[pliant ruin]

well

that's just how terraria works

[real silo]

yea

[pliant ruin]

the entire point of terraria progression is that ur constantly getting new weapons and things to try out

[split mortar]

Maybe just add weapons with those mechanics to other stages, like the ultrakill gun for pre boss and hardmode one

[pliant ruin]

ye

[sinful adder]

But it doesn't have to be that way. We could have accessories that modify weapon mechanics in such a way that we get multiplicatively more options

And it wouldn't be very hard

[pliant ruin]

It would be actually

[split mortar]

I imagine that would be a bitch to balance

[pliant ruin]

because with how wildly different each weapons work it'd not only bring up alot of balance issues but also code issues

its not smth you can just slap ontop of any weapon

[real silo]

yea

[pliant ruin]

nd like

gain

the design of terraria is to have a bunch of different weapons you switch around as you progress

[split mortar]

I do think having guns with one cool ass gimmick and then not let anyone use it for more then one boss is a waste though

[sinful adder]

Balance wise, sure, but imagine this:

[pliant ruin]

thats not bad design thats just how the game works

[pliant ruin]

ye

which is why you get stuff like midas prime

[real silo]

This is why galaxia needs to be retiered

[pliant ruin]

which u can get pre boss

and lasts up until like

idk

plantera or smth

maybe longer

[sinful adder]

You have an accessory that grants a 50% attack speed bonus, but the bonus goes away if you hold the attack button for more than 4 frames. This now encourages you to spam click

[pliant ruin]

that's alot simpler than

[sinful adder]

This is a simple numerical change that can be applied to almost any weapon

[pliant ruin]

the idea you brought up previously

that could work

it probably wouldn't work well

with somew eapons

[split mortar]

Oh I can see that working code wise

[pliant ruin]

though

alot of weapons are too slow to realistically benefit from it

but

thats fine

i think

[sinful adder]

This is actually just a different way of logic-ing the spam click idea

[pliant ruin]

i personally dont see it being that fun though

it dosen't add much new in terms of things you can do or skill it just amkes it so you have to spam click rather than hold your mouse

which is

kind of just objectively worse

even if just from a Fun perspective

[real silo]

I love finger pain

Sorry that's just how I see it

[sinful adder]

On the contrary, slower weapons would benefit more, because you'd be guaranteed the bonus all the time without having to click too fast

Anyways, yes this idea is just finger pain

[pliant ruin]

calamity players r masochistic anyways so maybe they'll enjoy it ig

[real silo]

What if I ensad

[split mortar]

Might need a slight balance change for snipers exclusively but I do think it would be quite a good item either way

[dusk laurel]

clamitey modd

[real silo]

How would it work with charge weapons

[pliant ruin]

The entire

spam click thing

seems completely unecessary to me tbh

[sinful adder]

Better idea:
You build up a gradual attack speed buff while not attacking, and lose the bonus gradually as you attack

[pliant ruin]

again there's no additional skill involved here its just

finger pain

for more dps

[real silo]

Mythril enchant

[split mortar]

Oh yeah that would be nice

[pliant ruin]

rogue

[dusk laurel]

i'd rather not develop carpal tunnel thank you

[split mortar]

My thought

[real silo]

You'd really enjoy fargoe

[split mortar]

But yeah that is a nice effect

[pliant ruin]

isn't that just rogue

like isn't htat literally just rogue

[real silo]

Not quite

[split mortar]

Not to my knowledge, you build up a bar to do one big attack

[pliant ruin]

okay yeah it's not exactly rogue

but it's

the same general idea

[real silo]

Yea

[pliant ruin]

dont attack for a bit do a big attack

[real silo]

It's basically clockwork rogue weapons

[pliant ruin]

like that is p much just rogue with a new coat of paint

[split mortar]

Mythril enchant in calamity

[pliant ruin]

tbh

idk what any of the enchants do

[real silo]

Mythril enchant except it's an entire class

[split mortar]

It’s more so the mythril enchant

Exactly

[pliant ruin]

because they're only available on postgame

like,,, why add a entire new mechanic

in postgame

[real silo]

Not that enchant

Fargo mod enchant

[pliant ruin]

calclone npc that gives you weaker enchants trust.....

[split mortar]

Mythril enchant gives you a attack speed buff for some time if you stop attacking for a bit

[cloud ibex]

they are?

[real silo]

Cheese is confused

[pliant ruin]

ye

dont you get them

from scal

[cloud ibex]

i thought they were available as soon as you got the armor sets

[pliant ruin]

so at worst its postgame at best its for 1 boss

[sinful adder]

Honestly, rogue shouldn't exist. Every single good thing rogue has could have been done better as a subclass or accessory for another class

[real silo]

I was talking about fargo's enchantments (accessories) not calamity's enchantments (modifiers)

[cloud ibex]

then again i haven't touched fargo souls in ages

[split mortar]

Scal is not post game technically

[pliant ruin]

idk anythinga bout fargo

5 fargo points lost

[real silo]

There is no "mythril" enchantment for calamity

[split mortar]

It’s fun

[indigo glade]

https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Mythril_Enchantment

[real silo]

Most cal enchants are stinky

[split mortar]

Aren’t some quite good

Like the mage one that burns health randomly

When using

It

[real silo]

oblatory is OP yes

bloodthirsty is pretty cool

Same with tainted

Ephemeral is cool too

But then there's the weird ones like traitorous and persecuted

[split mortar]

Isn’t the fire enchant good with radiance and a support weapon?

[sinful adder]

Most enchantments seem more bad than good in my opinion

Except in specific situations

[real silo]

Aflame is probably the best one yea (besides oblatory)

[real silo]

I mean having niches is fine

[split mortar]

Yeah

[real silo]

Lunar items are cool because of that

Sometimes the niches are stupidly specific though

[split mortar]

Such as?

Idk what lunar items you on about

[real silo]

Lunar item risk of rain

[split mortar]

Ohhhhhh

The more specific the niche the stronger it should be

[real silo]

For example light flux pauldron halves your attack speed (bad) but also halves your cooldowns

So for skills that don't benefit from attack speed it's godly