lore-discussion

[mighty zenith]

i'd like to be able to talk about cool characters without being constantly reminded of the amount of not ok art about them

[solar wharf]

that shit is an outright animal

[stoic gulch]

That’s why I love battle cats

(But not sexy legs cat)

[solar wharf]

i dont like this argument, the latter i mean, cuz you are still you know, thinking about a creature thats shaped like an animal and looks like it in that way

[stoic gulch]

Do u like caterpie line btw?

[solar wharf]

i love them

[stoic gulch]

I think it’s very fun

[solar wharf]

metapod was my childhood mon

[stoic gulch]

It’s relatable

[mighty zenith]

i was always a beedrill guy tbh

[hoary berry]

beedrill scared the shit out of me

[stoic gulch]

Needful is also awesome sauce

[untold oracle]

I liked pidgey

[hoary berry]

now i think its cool tho

[mighty zenith]

i think he's cool

[solar wharf]

im so sad flygon wasnt a bug type, and yanmega deserved the dragon type as well

[mighty zenith]

also has my favorite mega by far

[stoic gulch]

I’m shit scared of insects but i love most bug Pokémon

[hoary berry]

real

[solar wharf]

hydrapple was also leaked to be a bug type, wouldv prefered if he actually was imo

[hoary berry]

mega beedrill goes hard af

[stoic gulch]

My fav is probably blastoise

[solar wharf]

it makes sense because the worms inside you know

[mighty zenith]

ITS SO COOL

If they dont bring him back in legends ZA im gonna cry

[stoic gulch]

I luv applin line

[stoic gulch]

Me too

[hoary berry]

i forgot about this game

[solar wharf]

really unique desgins yes

hydrapple is one of my favorite non bug mons

alongisde kommo-o

[mighty zenith]

hydrapple is so good

[solar wharf]

i fuckin love kommo-o

[mighty zenith]

i want him to be in more rom hacks

[stoic gulch]

I love all applins

[stoic gulch]

Very cool yes

[hoary berry]

i've never played a rom hack

[mighty zenith]

you're missing out tbh

[stoic gulch]

Don’t mention it Pokémon will sue us

[hoary berry]

i've seen gameplay of a few

[mighty zenith]

my favorite pokemon game is a rom hack

[solar wharf]

i wanna a kommo-o in real life so i have a walking and punching instrument producer

[mighty zenith]

pokemon unbound is so good play it please

[stoic gulch]

I want a flareon

[solar wharf]

played unbound 2 times, good game

[hoary berry]

i think i've seen someone play that one

[stoic gulch]

Both cuz I love cooking but also a cute fire dog slash cat

[solar wharf]

flareon is good pet material i agree

[mighty zenith]

i mean if i could choose a mon for irl im choosing squirtle

there's no competition

[stoic gulch]

Also caterpie tbh

[solar wharf]

its a hard choose for me

i would have to go heracross

[sleek halo]

real…

[stoic gulch]

Ahh yes my favorite calamity chat room Pokémon discussion

[sleek halo]

beedrill mega SLAPS

[mighty zenith]

also btw
i dont understand people who say beedrill has a bad shiny

[stoic gulch]

Yeh

[mighty zenith]

shiny mega beedrill is fucking gorgeous

[cloud ibex]

i would choose idk some snake probably

[stoic gulch]

How does it look?

[mighty zenith]

green and black with blue eyes

[stoic gulch]

Ekans

[sleek halo]

one of my favorite pokemon is

bisharp

[stoic gulch]

That so cool

[cloud ibex]

i don't know if there even are any other than the two obvious ones

[sleek halo]

another is Kyurem

[stoic gulch]

Fair

[solar wharf]

heracross!!!!

[stoic gulch]

Also fair

[solar wharf]

an absolute unit

[sleek halo]

i think it’s cause there’s so many green shinies

[stoic gulch]

But I hate kyurem cuz my friend thinks kyurem is “hot”

[untold oracle]

Plaguebringer goliath smh

[mighty zenith]

most green shinies arent good

[sleek halo]

like proportionally

[mighty zenith]

this one
is fantastic

[stoic gulch]

Cool af

[sleek halo]

there’s more green shinies

than any other type

[untold oracle]

I always liked glaceon a lot

[sleek halo]

i like kyurem cause

[untold oracle]

And bird pokemons

[stoic gulch]

Glaceon is fine

[sleek halo]

it’s also a really cool concept

it literally embodies

nothing

lke the concept of empty

[stoic gulch]

Yeah I loved it cuz black 2 was my first game but my friend ruined it

[mighty zenith]

applin, beedrill and scizor are probably the best green shinies imo

[stoic gulch]

Ye

[sleek halo]

It’s also a fucking murderous bastard

[stoic gulch]

He’s just like me

[mighty zenith]

kyurem is awesome, especially love kyurem black

[sleek halo]

who in every showing absolutely BODIES reshiram and zekrom

[stoic gulch]

He’s just like me

[mighty zenith]

game freak please give him a better physical moveset

[sleek halo]

Idk why he has worse stats than rhem

[stoic gulch]

Empty

[sleek halo]

because they constantly show him absolutely wrecking their shit

like Kyurem canonically is the strongest of the trio

[mighty zenith]

probably since it's meant to be a hollow shell without them, so weakened

[sleek halo]

it still has the power within it

[mighty zenith]

but then again, every third legendary in a trio is the one who beats the shit out of the other two

[sleek halo]

it’s just frozen

[mighty zenith]

for stepping out of line

(except eternatus)

[sleek halo]

Like the idea is that what Kyurem actually lost

was his generators

and his morals

so he froze over and the power he has is kept under control by the ice

[mighty zenith]

also he eats people

[sleek halo]

yea

[mighty zenith]

like i find it funny how little attention is put into it in B&W

[sleek halo]

he’s also one of the few pokemon victini is actually scared of

[mighty zenith]

one town is scared of kyurem and nobody else cares

[sleek halo]

because he can just freeze victini

forever

[mighty zenith]

im still hoping for an unova legends game

[sleek halo]

same

[mighty zenith]

kyurem was a lil underdeveloped

[sleek halo]

i want the original

dragon

or at least more lore

of the trio

[sinful adder]

I thought kyurem was like, reality

[mighty zenith]

they seem to be giving zygarde a proper role finally

so they can do it to kyurem

[sleek halo]

he embodies the lack of ying and yang

[mighty zenith]

speaking of zygarde

[sleek halo]

empty

[sinful adder]

Zekrom and reshiram are truth and ideals, but and kyurem is the physical implementation of those things

[mighty zenith]

my favorite legendary

[sleek halo]

He’s nothing

[mighty zenith]

by FAR

[sleek halo]

Heah

He has multiple things

he embodies

it’s weird

[sinful adder]

Ah

[sleek halo]

imm pretty sure ppl consider the original dragon a god

like one of them

[sinful adder]

I mean, the physical embodiment of reality, all that is and all that could be, id call that a god

[sleek halo]

yeah

[sleek halo]

I fucking love zygarde

[sinful adder]

Truth: what was and partially is
Ideals: what could be
Reality: what is

[sleek halo]

I hate that he’s underutilized

[mighty zenith]

The idea of a being that is part of the planet itself whose job it is to maintain the proper cycle of life and death is

fucking AWESOME

[sleek halo]

At least in the manga he was cool

[mighty zenith]

and they did NOTHING

With it

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[sinful adder]

Zygarde is like. Silva. Kind of.

[sleek halo]

Z was so set up

to exist

and then they just didn’t and threw him in ultra suna nd moon

LOL

[mighty zenith]

they turned one of the coolest pokemon ever into a fucking collectathon mission

[sleek halo]

yeah

also like

never expanded on why zygarde was in alola

(to beat necrozmas ASS)

[sinful adder]

It seems like the pokemon team wanted to make pokemon grey and Pokemon Z, but then they were like "sequels sell better than definitive editions though..."

[sleek halo]

which canon wise

he did

in the manga

the only issue is he fought ultra necrozma and photon blast literally blew zygarde into his other forms

which i find funny considering 50% zygarde just

bodied mega mewtwo

both forms

like mewtwo literally did no damage

[mighty zenith]

necrozma is kind of in a league of his own

[sleek halo]

yeah

I mean zygarde reformed and kept fighting

[mighty zenith]

ngl i wanna read the manga

from what ive heard its a completely different tone to the games and anime

[split mortar]

Reyquaza stabs someone in the heart so yeah it is different

In tone

[untold oracle]

I like the more realistic aspect of pokemon

[mighty zenith]

damn

[untold oracle]

Instead of the childish fantasy image the anime and the games give

[split mortar]

Sadly Nintendo fights litteraly any of their fans who are creative

[mighty zenith]

gamefreak doesnt want people to find out how uncreative the games are

so they get rid of the creative games

[warm gull]

zamn

[split mortar]

Sadge

[sleek halo]

that’s not rly…

game freak

nintendo is the one who sues ppl

[mighty zenith]

fair enough

[sleek halo]

especially cause they own the ip

[mighty zenith]

its more like
the pokemon company

[sleek halo]

and the licensing rights

[warm gull]

I'm a freak and I game does this make me a gamefreak

[sleek halo]

and merch

and show

[sinful adder]

The pokemon company is Nintendo plus game freak plus their own thing

[mighty zenith]

nintendo owns the ip yea but im pretty sure TPC is the one taking pokemon games down

[sleek halo]

gamefreak doesn’t even make like

the models

for the pokemon

[mighty zenith]

nintendo sues for their own ips like mario, zelda

[sinful adder]

Anyways, I'm not buying Nintendo or Pokemon games any more if I can have the self control to do so, I shouldn't have in the first place

[sleek halo]

that’s all creatures inc

[sinful adder]

They're fucking evil

[split mortar]

Atleast Nintendo makes complete games 90% of the time

[sleek halo]

gamefreak is just a lot of devs who try hard with the hellishly low amount of time they’re allocated to make games because everything else pokemon

relies on the games

[mighty zenith]

im gonna play legends za through 🏴‍☠️

[sinful adder]

As is Japan's legal system

[sleek halo]

well higher ppl in gamefreak suck dick but

most of the devs aren’t bad debs

they’re just fucked over with the time constraints

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[split mortar]

Isn’t it like only 9 months or something

[sinful adder]

I don't believe this. Ever since the beginning, their programming has been horrible. Red and blue weren't even working until iwata himself came in and fixed them

[split mortar]

Red and blue were like decades ago

[sinful adder]

He literally held the games together

[mighty zenith]

like its obvious the devs want to do as much as they can with what they're given

[sinful adder]

Yeah. They haven't improved.

[mighty zenith]

they're just not given enough

[sleek halo]

gamefreak was also almost bankrupt

even with nintendos support

[sinful adder]

People have also looked into the code of the games and see ridiculous mistakes no dev should make I heard... Somewhere...

Yeah. They're just bad at making games

[sleek halo]

also that’s one of the buggiest pokemon games

ever

[split mortar]

If they’re given an extremely short time I imagine they can’t go for the efficient route but the quick route

[sleek halo]

it never was that bad again excluding for the gen 4 remakes (gamefreak didn’t make them) and violet and scarlet

[mighty zenith]

red and blue were a literal miracle

[sinful adder]

The future releases after that haven't improved

[sleek halo]

which they got 11 months

11 fucking months

[sinful adder]

Yeah that is pretty awful!

But I think they couldn't make it really good even with 4x the time

[sleek halo]

yeah because the project was too big

Legends of zelda

took like

like iirc tears of the kingdom took

5 years

5 years of development

[sinful adder]

Anyways yeah. Most of Nintendo is just fucking awful

[mighty zenith]

you dont know that

[sinful adder]

They make good games most of the time, but that doesn't excuse evil behavior

[sleek halo]

yeah nintendo is horrible

[sinful adder]

I have reason to believe it

[split mortar]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

i still think out of sony, nintendo and microsoft

nintendo is the least bad

which is kinda crazy

[sinful adder]

I disagree actually

[sleek halo]

nintendo are just

[sinful adder]

Well, I'm not sure

[sleek halo]

assholes

[sinful adder]

They're all bad

[warm gull]

debating which evil corporation is the least bad 😭

[wheat walrus]

They're all equally shitty in their own unique ways I say

[sleek halo]

since omni is here now

we’re powerscaling their evilness

[mighty zenith]

you know what
thats fair

[wheat walrus]

Whar...

[sleek halo]

i saw your name and thought of powerscaling

[warm gull]

I feel like microsoft probably has the most power out of the 3

[sleek halo]

oh absolutely

shit isn’t even close

[wheat walrus]

Yian Kutkingdom will eradicate all the malice of this world

[warm gull]

malice...

[mighty zenith]

bird up

[wheat walrus]

The great battles the kutkingdom has, is and will fight for our world are to never be forgotten and to be remembered through history

[scenic olive]

i will make a hammer that will kill Yharim

and name it

Yharbreaker

[sinful adder]

I wish we could time travel to a hundred years ago and kill Yharon and yharim back then

Or even just like 10 years ago

[hoary berry]

one of my OCs does travel back in time

to shortly before the incineration

[frank dune]

Aint yharim is just gonna get oneshotted?

Bro is wearing autic tesla 😭

[cloud ibex]

i was gonna make a joke about prime yharim but really he's probably in his prime right now

[scenic olive]

he is

the strongest

[frank dune]

Ultrakill reference?

[cloud ibex]

no

[scenic olive]

No

Explode

[hoary berry]

[frank dune]

No u

[cloud ibex]

it was actually a dark souls reference but it didn't really work

[frank dune]

Lets be honest yharim is very very

Very

Weak

He cannot do shit without dragonic metal tbh

[cloud ibex]

depends on who you compare him to

[warm gull]

disagree wholeheartedly that he's weak

[cloud ibex]

that is, if you're not comparing him to xeroc, then no lmao

[frank dune]

Comparing to myself:

[warm gull]

he isn't like a mushy guy piloting a yellow mech suit lol

[frank dune]

Bro couldnt kill slime god tbh

[scenic olive]

to quote the dev

His armor only adds to his durability

most of his strength comes purely from his physique

[frank dune]

Bro got thrown in lava

[scenic olive]

and auric shit

[frank dune]

😭

[frank dune]

And auric shit

[warm gull]

have you heard of the new boss concept that is being added

[frank dune]

?

[warm gull]

called the phylenese

[frank dune]

No

[warm gull]

phylenese nutz

[scenic olive]

auric soul attunement

[warm gull]

ha gottem

[scenic olive]

not the metal

[warm gull]

auric soul attunement is the reason he can use auric metal anyways

[frank dune]

Tbh what if dragons are bad

[scenic olive]

they are not bad nor good

[frank dune]

I mean abyss was a dead zone before silva

[warm gull]

there were probably good and bad dragons

just like gods

[scenic olive]

Abyss wasnt meant to harbor life anyway

[warm gull]

there is no definitive morality based on what you are

[frank dune]

Lets kill dragons too then

[warm gull]

there is only 1 dragon to kill

[scenic olive]

Bad news

theyre dead

[frank dune]

No dragons- no problem

[scenic olive]

good news not all of them are

[warm gull]

there is only yharon

who will come back whenever he's killed

[frank dune]

I mean i can just make machine to keep killing him at moment he rebirths

So technically -yharon

Who else

[warm gull]

he doesn't rebirth in the same spot that he dies

[woeful patio]

Just destroy the Aerie

[warm gull]

aerieez

[scenic olive]

What if Aerie is made out of the same material as Terminus

[woeful patio]

The Rock
Item is just a random rock that Xeroc found in the Aerie

[frank dune]

Sure

Aint ghere any concequences for yharon for rebirthing?

[sinful adder]

I doubt it

[solar wharf]

he takes a long time to do it, thats about what we know

pretty sure his auric soul is also defenseless

[scenic olive]

Auric stone

[real silo]

aubrick

[indigo glade]

Lore discussion.

I won't be here all day, sadly.

[scenic olive]

its lore its auric

[dusk laurel]

teeth gnashing

[indigo glade]

Perhaps starting life on this planet was a mistake.

[cloud ibex]

could've been worse

[indigo glade]

While you may be true, it weighs on my consciousness, knowing I alone was the cause.

[cloud ibex]

the cause of what

[indigo glade]

Life. On this planet.

[cloud ibex]

did you create prehistoric plankton

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[cloud ibex]

then i guess yeah it was your fault

pretty baller "mistake" though i gotta admit

wouldn't have had hamburgers without

[dusk laurel]

did you say this because of what i said
or is it just something out of the blue

[frank dune]

Alright great any way to destroy it

?

[dusk laurel]

we don't

yharim hid it somewhere

[frank dune]

Damn yharim is such a bitch

Bro forgot to share

[indigo glade]

Out of the blue.

[dusk laurel]

okay

so what do you think of teeth gnashing?

[split mortar]

That the gnash is teething

[untold oracle]

Wouldn’t it make sense for a gravitation potion to be able to let a person alter their gravity to all directions, not just on the vertical axis?

[strong notch]

I don't feel like falling left

Also that would be confusing to use

[sinful adder]

Yes

Unless it works by giving you negative gravitational mass when you want

[grim harness]

I'm not the only person who call Providence Profaned goddess, Providence, instead of Providence, the profaned goddess

Profaned Goddess, Providence

I blame hollow knight for me saying her title+name that way

[sinful adder]

Over 2000 days of no silksong...

This is NORMAL

I'm FINE

[grim harness]

I'm not

[sinful adder]

I expected the game to be out A YEAR AND A HALF AGO

[tall delta]

Silksong isnt real we all know that

[neat tinsel]

Money laundering

They’re trying to make a hollow knight movie

with jack black

[tall delta]

they will release hollow knight 2 before silksong clearly

[sinful adder]

I can feel myself going more insane by the day

I've been mainly waiting for things for like... Years

Silksong, sunken sea update, BattleBots, new moon landings... All things that I've heard about years ago and still aren't done

[devout grotto]

As a Half-Life fan, I know how y'all feel 🫂

[real silo]

Himb

Wanted to give him more fiery rays because funny sun

I probably need to cut down on the sigil spam

[scenic olive]

aurock

[sinful adder]

What if a dragon consumed a human soul instead of the other way around?

[scenic olive]

dragonborn

[indigo glade]

Long ago, two races ruled over Earth: HUMANS and DRAGONS.

[sleek halo]

I imagine it’d do nothing good for the dragon

in comparison

they could honestly end worse off

[scenic olive]

what if they consume the soul of an attuned individual

[untold oracle]

They obtain the indomitable human spirit

And proceed to throw car batteries into the ocean

[sinful adder]

But gods can be stronger than the dragons that they came from, so maybe not?

[untold oracle]

I knew it

So the body self-destructing isn’t a visual overlook

[spring helm]

Every waking moment?

Draedon sleeps?

[split mortar]

Recharging

[untold oracle]

I’ve been writing about the trip to the planetoid lab

It’s quite long and I’m not sure do I like it

The jungle one will be very interesting tho

Since I’m gonna include the plague

[slate grail]

do we even know who made draedon or no

[untold oracle]

no

[split mortar]

Probably deadalus but I don’t think it will ever be confirmed

[untold oracle]

It can also be a botched mind transfer considering how the body was covered in technology stuff

[pliant ruin]

firm believer that draedon "made" himself as in this ^

[split mortar]

Imo there isn’t enough of a person in draedon for that to be believable for me

Also hello ches

[pliant ruin]

hai :D

[pliant ruin]

well that's because he lost his memories and emotions, seemingly

i don't see any other way to explain why his "creator" was seemingly dead and had technological devices in him

[split mortar]

Didn’t know it was said they had devices in them

[pliant ruin]

I don't think we'll ever get a clear answer but i like the idea he is his own creator more than the daedalus interpretationm

[split mortar]

And yes I did read the draetalk

[pliant ruin]

though that'd mean daedalus is fucking dead and that's kinda funny

[split mortar]

Yeah it being Daedalus doesn’t contradict the botched mind thing

[untold oracle]

It is in the lore doc

That it could be botched

Or he specifically wanted to lose his memories

(Or that he’s an AI but I don’t want to believe it)

[split mortar]

He lost a lot more then memories if it were that

I can see why it would be believed in though

[untold oracle]

I mean don’t memories shape your personality

[pliant ruin]

tbh wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't botched

and that the memories and morals thing going away was

intentional

so that he could focus 100% on research without the burden of

[split mortar]

Yes, but he also lost bias and goals and most to all emotions

[pliant ruin]

having human feelings

[untold oracle]

I think a logical reason for him to want to forget would be so that he can focus 100% on the research

[untold oracle]

Lmao the same

[indigo glade]

Daedalus interpretation?

[untold oracle]

That daedalus created draedon

Basically that Draedon is an AI

[split mortar]

I do think Daedalus did create draedon, idk if draedon is Daedalus though

[indigo glade]

Why can't it be both?

[untold oracle]

Also a mind transfer would make a lot more sense in terms of waking up the moment the organic dies

[indigo glade]

Just because Daedalus was the person doesn't mean that it couldn't be a mind transfer.

[split mortar]

True

[untold oracle]

Maybe he wanted to change his name

[pliant ruin]

Daedalus isn't even really a canon character anyways so it's all sort of headcanon territory

[untold oracle]

Draedon sounds way cooler than daedalus imo

[pliant ruin]

But i will say

Daedalus just spontaneously fucking dying if it wasn't a mind transfer

is sort of hilarious

[untold oracle]

He’s hanging out with goozma and andromeda at this point

[pliant ruin]

"Ah. my finest creation. Time to pass away"

and then he fucking dies

[untold oracle]

Yup

[indigo glade]

Draedon is just Daedalus' Non Binary transition.

[pliant ruin]

he still uses he him pronouns though smh...

[untold oracle]

Peak

[split mortar]

With Daedalus ore stuff being in underground ice and draedon waking in the underground I do think that’s enough to conclude they’re atleast related in some form

[pliant ruin]

i mean

[slate grail]

honestly im part of the "draedon was a human who transferred their mind into a robot" gang

[pliant ruin]

every ore is underground

except like

aerialite

[slate grail]

it just makes sense tbh

[pliant ruin]

dosen't mean draedon is related to... the evil biomes

[split mortar]

Who is andromeda

[pliant ruin]

because crimtane and demonite is underground

or silva

bc perennial is underground

[untold oracle]

Everyone misgenders them and they also forgot the transition’s original intention lol

[untold oracle]

I don’t remember lmao

[pliant ruin]

scrapped boss

was gonna be exos before exos or smth

basically a

[untold oracle]

I just remember it was an old character that was scrapped

[pliant ruin]

giant computer

[tall delta]

the giant robot

[pliant ruin]

draedon made

[split mortar]

The Daedalus stuff come from a ore specifically in the underground ice

[split mortar]

Oh so hekate but canon

[pliant ruin]

but it was scrapped because the sprite was way too big and required way too much effort

like it was

HUGE

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[pliant ruin]

the andromedamini critter

is based off it

[pliant ruin]

wait

right

i forgot

that draedon woke up in the tundra

[untold oracle]

Is the random ass tundra house Draedon’s old home then?

[tall delta]

no

[untold oracle]

No it doesn’t have cool tech

[tall delta]

Mechanic

[pliant ruin]

trhats mechanics

[untold oracle]

Oh I see

[split mortar]

I thought it was permafrosts house

[pliant ruin]

it has building tools and wires and stuff

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

He is simply a self made man

[pliant ruin]

it's a really random addition but

[untold oracle]

Worldbuilding

[split mortar]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

wouldn't even call it that honestly

it dosen't actually build on the world

[tall delta]

Just free loot

[pliant ruin]

its just sorta

there

yeah

its literally just

free loot

[tall delta]

with a building

[split mortar]

Just confused why the mechanic of all npcs got a house

[pliant ruin]

because free loot

[untold oracle]

I always take the heavy workbench there

[frozen zodiac]

none of the other npcs have canonical places besides the dungeon and presumably cal npcs

[pliant ruin]

they wanted a way for you to get the building accessories easily i suppose

even then it still feels rly out of place

you could add it to like

literally any other mod

and it'd fit

if anything it'd fit bette

r

[frozen zodiac]

"out of place" and then the world gen puts it on top of a tree

[indigo glade]

Evidence to the contrary.

[split mortar]

Didn’t know John calamity was nonbinary like that

[frozen zodiac]

ah so draedon has taken the iron valiant approach of "gender is meaningless in the future"

[tall delta]

you will get stylist scissors and free hair dyes in her abandoned house

[indigo glade]

The person who runs the Twitter account is none other than Mr. Undertale.

[split mortar]

He prob only goes by he due to societal stuff not because he actually is a he if that’s his view

[frozen zodiac]

i love the "john [title of videogame]" meme

[split mortar]

Damn

Didn’t know Toby fox ran calamity’s Twitter

[indigo glade]

Shayy.

I'm talking about Shayy.

[split mortar]

-# I know

[split mortar]

John wulfrum best character made up by the fandom

[untold oracle]

If you rub a balloon into a dragonfolly would it emit red sparks

[pliant ruin]

probably

[dusk laurel]

when will john fargo

[split mortar]

If it can handle the voltage probably

[split mortar]

He was in other mod talk for thirty seconds a few days ago

Or she

Idk

[untold oracle]

I love the concept of weaponizing static electricity

One thing I like about folly more than birb

[frozen zodiac]

i want to imagine because Wagstaff also triggers the dont starve hurt sfx easter egg that John Wulfrum is literally just Wagstaff with a different name and lore, he looks literally identical to his dst form

[dusk laurel]

i know

i saw it

the rare appearance of the creator of terraria themself

[redigit and fargo are the same person. right?]

[split mortar]

Wait what

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

Fargo created the multiverse

Long before time had a name

[split mortar]

Ok ninjago

[hoary berry]

lego ninjago
holy shit

i just had some crazy flashbacks to that show

[frozen zodiac]

Good evening, "Fargo" was an 8 year long sociological study conducted by Re-Logic. We are now complete with our study. Thank you for your time.

[spare pier]

Cryonic Armor is being renamed, so don't count that as any kind of proof

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[untold oracle]

Can someone give me feedback on a part of my text? I’m not sure what to think of it and I think it’s a bit bland

[dusk laurel]

let's glooo

dk why cryonic armor is named that

since daedalus was an inventor and not a warrior

[untold oracle]

Iirc daedalus had nothing to do with permafrost anyways

[gaunt sluice]

yeah how much stuff do we have right now that's being reworked so we should exclude it in our theorizing

[untold oracle]

Ravager kinda

Not sure if its lore is changing tho

[random mulch]

ravager's lore is probably staying mostly the same

[dusk laurel]

wha-

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568192082473386020/1140046968693989407/3dgifmaker05731.gif

[gaunt sluice]

you passed the test

[untold oracle]

You have passed the test

Have a black hole

[split mortar]

Only thing I can think of is the possibility Ravager is both sacrifices and blood but that ain’t confirmed yet

[trim edge]

ok so
when most npcs talk, their dialogue becomes text on the screen
yharon and (unknown character who sings sbc) can bypass that and talk directly via sound
yharon can break the fourth wall

and since it is a message to yharim, it implies yharim and yharon communicate beyond the fourth wall

[split mortar]

The sbc lyrics is scals perspective then ours I think then neither

[frozen zodiac]

is this a "duck hunt duo is actually 3 people because of the zapper" situation

[split mortar]

I dont know what that is

[trim edge]

yes
but it is not in first person meaning there is a third entity talking to both

[indigo glade]

In Super Smash Brothers, the character Duck Hunt is a combination of three characters; the dog, the duck and the person who uses the zapper.

Also, I am back.

[split mortar]

Some of it is first person iirc

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[trim edge]

the pronouns "i" and "me" appear 0 times in the song

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[trim edge]

well "our world" is mentioned so this entity is part of the terraria world

unless the fight causes something else to change

[gaunt sluice]

SBC is not canon

[indigo glade]

It is much more like the song is a greek chorus, explaining the characters' motivations and actions.

[trim edge]

taking everything literally to come up with the most batshit insane conclusions here

[indigo glade]

Grief is about Calamitas, Lament is about the player and Epiphany is about the world at large, onlookers and residents of Terraria and the such.

[gaunt sluice]

a significant portion is in second person

[split mortar]

I think shadowspec items will be broken aswell for that

[trim edge]

literally summoning dog

apotheosis contains the power of noxus or something

[split mortar]

Azathoth deleting universes in a blink of an eye

Shadowspec making that 2.25 times more universe per blink

[frozen zodiac]

honestly if apotheosis didnt use shadowspec i could definitely see it being canon with just a few visual tweaks so its like an illusion resembling dog

[split mortar]

Noxus drop type thing

[warm gull]

good afternoon

[split mortar]

Hello 8pm

[plush geode]

boys deific mulet or ambrosial ampoule for summoner

[gaunt sluice]

prob ambrosial but probably use #help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk or smth

[split mortar]

And if infernum #calamity-addon-talk

[warm gull]

8pm is still afternoon

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[dusk laurel]

fitting.

[split mortar]

Huh

[magic epoch]

(pfp)

[dusk laurel]

yeag that

[split mortar]

Ahhhh

[stark basalt]

is calamitas a black gangster

[magic epoch]

no

she is neither

[stark basalt]

why is she black

[dusk laurel]

what?

she is azafurian

[magic epoch]

she's not black lol

[stark basalt]

its black tho

blacker than my entire hood on god

[split mortar]

She is strawberry

[magic epoch]

it's like a stony with a reddish tint

[dusk laurel]

she is gray

[stark basalt]

so shes black

[dusk laurel]

the red tint is from brimstone flames

[magic epoch]

yeah she's gray with a red tint

[stark basalt]

alr

now i know what slurs to say in game

[dusk laurel]

.

i'm gonna seal you away.

[split mortar]

Stone grey is different skin tone to any irl races I’m pretty sure

[stark basalt]

shes not white tho

[split mortar]

Perish

[dusk laurel]

that's not how that works

[stark basalt]

what is this

[dusk laurel]

irl races don't exist ingame

[split mortar]

horse mouth birds

[dusk laurel]

the skin colors exist sure

[stark basalt]

what about the zoologist

the arm dealer

[dusk laurel]

vanilla

[stark basalt]

same thing

the dye trader too

[dusk laurel]

💥

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1283409240983081084/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[stark basalt]

the skin color makes sense so

[dusk laurel]

ignorance is truly bliss it seems.

[split mortar]

(99% of all sapient life was underground for millennia)

[dusk laurel]

the sun was just better in the draconic era

[stark basalt]

🤨

[dusk laurel]

xeroc had to nerf it

[split mortar]

Xeroc taxed the sun

[stark basalt]

is xeroc black

[split mortar]

He is the sun

[magic epoch]

he's god

[dusk laurel]

whar.

[split mortar]

(Or close to it)

[dusk laurel]

he was human

[split mortar]

He is basically not a human

[dusk laurel]

and concept art gave him a tan

[split mortar]

Pre ascension

[dusk laurel]

yes ik

[split mortar]

(Sun was also just straight jacked back then so it may be tan and not race idk)

[dusk laurel]

post-ascension is a different matter

he could be a worm for all we know :3

or an eel

[split mortar]

Or a ball of shapeshifting light

[stark basalt]

or a monkey

[dusk laurel]

whar.

[stark basalt]

when are they adding yharim

[dusk laurel]

i'm not sure those exist on cal lore

[dusk laurel]

for cst

calamity spoiler talk

[split mortar]

After every other thing has been revamped to be much higher quality

[dusk laurel]

will be*

[stark basalt]

lazy ass answer

[dusk laurel]

bro.

[stark basalt]

''dont ask for the deadline"

its been so long

[dusk laurel]

this question has been asked an innumerable amount of times

[stark basalt]

what are they doing 💀

[split mortar]

Yeah cause they don’t make one

[dusk laurel]

you have no idea do you

[split mortar]

they are doing this

[dusk laurel]

leave this this user in the dark

[stark basalt]

brother

[dusk laurel]

it'll be better

[stark basalt]

its not even worth it

they can revamp later

[dusk laurel]

that's not the point

[stark basalt]

or you could say unnecessary

[dusk laurel]

the game has many unpolished and dated aspects

[split mortar]

Well they want everything to be good before yharim is out

[dusk laurel]

simply adding more does not help

that too

[split mortar]

that’s called bloat

[dusk laurel]

calamity is not just a boss rush mod anymore

[stark basalt]

well

its not as if yharim is the end of it all

smh

[dusk laurel]

.

[split mortar]

He could be

They MAY add noxus and xeroc

Not will

[dusk laurel]

xeroc and noxus aren't guaranteed

if the devs get burnt out

[stark basalt]

he cant be a hard boss

[dusk laurel]

.

[split mortar]

?

Have you not seen master mode stuff? That shit harder then infernum

Depends on the difficulty you play

[stark basalt]

i beat supreme cirrus

[cloud ibex]

he might be

[stark basalt]

its not hard

at all

[cloud ibex]

depends on how much vehemence the devs hold for terraria in their hearts at that point

[stark basalt]

why is fargo harder

[split mortar]

Then I think calamity ain’t the mod you’re looking for if you want difficulty

[split mortar]

That’s meant to be very hard

(I found eternity underwhelming)

[cloud ibex]

i think terraria ain't the game you're looking for if you want difficulty tbh

[dusk laurel]

^

[stark basalt]

dunno

its fun

[high lynx]

Do accessoryless

[split mortar]

Like idk go do the blueshie boss no hit

On master

[stark basalt]

thats just touhou

[cloud ibex]

like yeah sure it can be hard but i feel like there are other games out there that fit the whole Being Hard thing more

[stark basalt]

and its a 1.3 mod

[split mortar]

Do it expert then

[stark basalt]

how do you even downgrade to 1.3

[high lynx]

Go play touhou

[stark basalt]

(i have the github ver)

[split mortar]

There’s vids on it I’m pretty sure

[dusk laurel]

play touhou 12

or 15

[stark basalt]

no

[dusk laurel]

you'll have a blast

[stark basalt]

its boring

[split mortar]

Like yharim will be hard

For those who haven’t completed tmod loader

[cloud ibex]

not entirely sure how if not on steam

[stark basalt]

anyway back to lore

what race is the terrarian

[split mortar]

The image

[dusk laurel]

where

show image

[high lynx]

Terrarian

[dusk laurel]

this

is the thing

[stark basalt]

oh my god....

[dusk laurel]

there is no "official terrarian lore"

[split mortar]

Except we suck at naming

[dusk laurel]

true

[high lynx]

Every time

[stark basalt]

ok

we talking

[dusk laurel]

and we spare scal

[stark basalt]

default terrarian tho

[split mortar]

Default?

[dusk laurel]

still no lore

[stark basalt]

yes

the default skin

[cloud ibex]

human

[split mortar]

This

No default lore

[dusk laurel]

i am cyanobacterium

that possessed a fish

[stark basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1282447766077050981/resize.gif

[dusk laurel]

[stark basalt]

diff question

is yharim black

[dusk laurel]

we don't know

[dusk laurel]

also why are you obsessed with this question

[stark basalt]

you know why

[dusk laurel]

i don't

[stark basalt]

😨

[cloud ibex]

idk he could be

we probably won't ever know

[split mortar]

We don’t know and never will

[stark basalt]

you are a good man... in a cruel world...

[split mortar]

His armour is basically his skin as far as we are concerned

[manic coral]

and as far as anybody around him has ever been concerned

[stark basalt]

i wonder why i said that tf

[stark basalt]

pretty sure cal was

[manic coral]

wdym?

[stark basalt]

well you know

working for him or sm

[manic coral]

yes

doesn't change that fact

so were draedon

and DoG

[split mortar]

I wouldn’t be surprised only yharon and draedon know what he looks like under the armour

[cloud ibex]

i did at one point think of what yharim would look like before Draedon got to his armor

[split mortar]

Maybe perma

[manic coral]

and yeah perma too

as far as they're all concerned the armor might as well be his skin

[cloud ibex]

for whatever reason i imagined his face being covered in a piece of cloth with his insignia on it

[stark basalt]

why is his skin auric armor

[split mortar]

(I weren’t being litteral)

[dusk laurel]

he's been wearing it for god knows how long

[cloud ibex]

his face ever being exposed just doesn't compute with me, i picture him hiding his true appearance as a show of humility or whatever

[stark basalt]

wouldnt the

loremasters know

of all people

[manic coral]

why would i need to know

[indigo glade]

Does Yharim shower with his armour on?

[manic coral]

what's under it doesnt matter at all

[stark basalt]

idk you made the lore

[split mortar]

Yes

But they could also just not make the design

[cloud ibex]

something like wanting to show the world that his actions are what's important, not who he really is

[dusk laurel]

why would we need to know all of his physical features, that isn't his armor

[split mortar]

^

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-hatred-my-name-is-not-important-controversial-marilyn-manson-gif-24085578

[split mortar]

Like it has always been that yharims defining feature is his armour

Why change that

[stark basalt]

some artists want to know

[indigo glade]

Giving a face to Yharim would humanise him.

[cloud ibex]

there have been some headcanons for what he looks like from certain devs i think, but nothing official

[manic coral]

they can draw their own interpertations

[cloud ibex]

i think it was lilac who drew him kinda looking like ganondorf

[dusk laurel]

they can just use their imagination

[manic coral]

i think whatever people come up with is far more interesting than giving a solid answer

[stark basalt]

evil

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
When you're writing lore, you need to pay attention to what is and isn't worth pursuing, because there's a lot to cover and pursuing everything is a big rabbit hole

[stark basalt]

imma go to bed lol

[manic coral]

if there was a definitive answer, well, there'a a fuckton of fanart of what he MIGHT look like under there

people find it interesting to think about

[cloud ibex]

have fun

[cosmic zenith]

There's even techniques to make things seem more complex than what they're actually written as

[split mortar]

Oh really?

[manic coral]

sometimes it's more interesting and more fun to just not have stuff withb clear answers

[cloud ibex]

something something dark souls zanzibart

[split mortar]

Gravity falls was talked about for years and still is as an example

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
Leaving it up to interpretation is better, becausd we get to see such a variety of different and interesting takes

[viral juniper]

If it was all open-and-shut, there'd be no fun in that, y'know?

Theorizing is a big part of being a part of a developing fanbase

[dusk laurel]

Yeag, different takes are always nice to see. especially with how many artists are in the community

[stark basalt]

with no original

it'll crumble soon

[split mortar]

No original?

What?

[stark basalt]

no canon

[split mortar]

There is

You asked about the like two subjective canon

[dusk laurel]

his armor:

[viral juniper]

Let me ask you a question: Why would there be a reason to know about Yharim's face?

[split mortar]

The player and what’s under yharims armour

[stark basalt]

thats the basics

not even a complicated question

[dusk laurel]

that's not even how things work

[split mortar]

And? A question is something that can be intriguing

[dusk laurel]

people have interpreted things for centuries

like in irl art

[split mortar]

Like we didn’t know belos face until like the second half of s2 owl house

[stark basalt]

what

[split mortar]

I’m using a example from a different piece of fiction to show knowing the face of the main villain ain’t needed

[stark basalt]

a tv cartoon

[split mortar]

And? Still a piece of fiction with a fanbase

[dusk laurel]

that can still be a piece of fiction

[split mortar]

That had theories and fanart of it

[dusk laurel]

a lot of things can be fictional

[viral juniper]

It being a cartoon does not invalidate the point :p

[stark basalt]

im just saying why you mentioned a tv cartoon of all things lol

[split mortar]

First thing that came to my mind

And I like owl house

[indigo glade]

And you are talking about a mod for a PEGI 12 game.

I don't see the difference, personally.

[stark basalt]

its the calamity discord

whatever

i will come up with more devious questions soon 👿

[split mortar]

Alright

I will send you to the eels if they’re too devious

[stark basalt]

what eels

[split mortar]

:)

[high lynx]

The eels

[stark basalt]

is cal bree-

nevermind

[cloud ibex]

shut UP bro!!!!!

you're weird!!!!!!!

[stark basalt]

whaaaat

nooooo!

[dusk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-gif-11142067914485832931

curses you

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1283409240983081084/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Get concussion

[tall delta]

do you guys know about the Forge City

[split mortar]

Azafure?

[tall delta]

the place where god of sacrifices lived

[split mortar]

Oh, no I don’t think so

[tall delta]

its also where the god of magma lived

he and god of sacrifices worked together to defeat yharim army

[dusk laurel]

are these real

never heard of these before

god of magma and forge city

[split mortar]

-# wouldn’t that be providence for magma? Idk

Maybe mango stuff but idk

[split mortar]

Didn’t they die though

[tall delta]

yes in other words the plans have gone wrong

yharim and his army too strong yk

[dusk laurel]

where do you hear this stuff

[tall delta]

also god of magma consumed the volcano auric soul

[cloud ibex]

works cited: picture of a crack pipe

[dusk laurel]

i smoked 500 cigarettes...

[I in fact, did not]

[tall delta]

basically god of magma made the Forge City work

with magma that had magic properties

[split mortar]

Ah azafure but worse

[dusk laurel]

lamezafure

has gods but it weaker

[tall delta]

true

[split mortar]

Azafure being natural and stronger while forge using god steroid magma and dying easily

[tall delta]

god of magma and his followers basically said "we will make azafure but better!!" and ofc it wasnt azafure but better

but It worked

It worked well

[split mortar]

Then yharim worked

And suddenly they had no access to their performance enhancing magma drugs

[dusk laurel]

heatroids

[tall delta]

yeah they became aware of yharim crazy god hunt, then god of sacrifices comes in the city, asks god of magma to work together with him and make plans to fight agaisnt yharim and his army

[calm patio]

Get out.

[split mortar]

She is aro ace

[pliant ruin]

: (

why can't people be normal

[split mortar]

Because they haven’t been kicked in the stomach yet

[dusk laurel]

trueg

maybe a hammer to the face would be enough

[rotund shore]

Mods, incinerate him with holy flames

[rotund shore]

we all know where those four letters were going

[cloud ibex]

[calm patio]

irrelevant cal simp

[ripe cypress]

Providence is badder

[calm patio]

[warm gull]

not very sigman of you

[calm patio]

a overused joke

get a new gimmick

[warm gull]

these people hate those kind of jokes yeah

[calm patio]

Mods

[dusk laurel]

☹️

[calm patio]

asking a 21 year old that is fucking wild

[dusk laurel]

kill this user.

[rotund shore]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-champ-thats-really-interesting-next-time-keep-it-to-yourself-gif-25930013

[calm patio]

a 22 year old wouldnt ask these questions

nor question calamity characters about it.

🤓

corny

[warm gull]

[calm patio]

just admit youre on that reddit calamitas hivemind

anyways

[warm gull]

"that's the joke" is never a good reason it's just something people say when their joke isn't funny

[calm patio]

^

not like thats been said hundreds of times anyways but anyways

[pliant ruin]

"Joke"

look inside

sexual harrassment

love calamitrym od discord

[warm gull]

calamitry

[dusk laurel]

calamifail.

[warm gull]

I have a degree in calamitry

[spare pier]

Ok what the fuck

[dusk laurel]

[rotund shore]

❌

[spare pier]

Ok cool

That's a 7 day timeout

[pliant ruin]

thanks reb

[spare pier]

Don't fucking say that kind of shit again for the love of God

[rotund shore]

ty

[spare pier]

Jesus Christ

[calm patio]

thank you reb

[dusk laurel]

this user has been muted before?

thanks reb

[rotund shore]

some people need to like, think before saying words

[split mortar]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

i wonder how these people function in real life

do they

[dusk laurel]

i think maybe

[spare pier]

Move on, please

[dusk laurel]

depends

[split mortar]

Alrighty

[dusk laurel]

okay :)