lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

calamity the game, not the mod

[violet sparrow]

pretty tempting

is that suwako pfp

[cloud ibex]

queen slime? more like

[violet sparrow]

you make me sick

[dusk laurel]

yeag

[dusk laurel]

who? me?

[violet sparrow]

no the person who posted the qs death sfx

[dusk laurel]

okay

[cloud ibex]

listen i am not the one who made the decision for her to rip a fat one upon death

[split mortar]

You’re the one who made the decision to post it though

[cloud ibex]

i will take responsibility for that part yes

[split mortar]

Exactly, explode

[dusk laurel]

"explore" 🔥📜✍️

"seek the grave of light" ahh statement

[mighty zenith]

new zeratros fanart dropped

pretty neat i think

[lean crag]

Quite fun

[pliant ruin]

bird

[cosmic zenith]

Waayy too many factors to consider even if we made something very close to Terraria

Martians would be staying, they actually fit pretty well

[split mortar]

So life on another planet or even further is just casually a thing?

No moonlord is not a casual thing that nuked a era out of existence basically

[cosmic zenith]

Martians specifically are a thing

[dusk laurel]

so mars is real in clamity

[cosmic zenith]

Especially since they're just in the interplanetary range

We wouldn't have fun writing interstellar Martians

If we wrote at all

[cosmic zenith]

It's Martia smh........

[dusk laurel]

better name imo

[rotund shore]

If I was to explain the martians in cal lore, i'd say their planet has astral infection, so they're finding another hospitable place to invade

[cosmic zenith]

Honestly that's a pretty cool idea

[rotund shore]

mostly lines up with shockstorm shuttles bestiary, too

[cosmic zenith]

DOOM but it's Martians fighting the Astral Infection instead

You'll have more info on Martians with the Vanilla Bestiary rewrite

[rotund shore]

nifty

are the shockstorm shuttles gonna be like, martians as well or are they unrelated aliens

[mighty zenith]

||aureus is the spider mastermind||

[proven rivet]

Speaking about Astral, it'd be cool if you saw the uninfected deus fly away after defeating it, with if then being sometimes seen in the bg during the night

[rotund shore]

that'd be cool

the game currently does not show that AT ALL

[proven rivet]

Yeah, rn it just, dies

While it is alive

[rotund shore]

I forget if they mentioned it being uninfected in the lore item, but still, theres telling and not showing

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, it's something we wanna do when we redesign Deus

[dusk laurel]

so we free deus :D

[rotund shore]

oooo deus redesign?

[dusk laurel]

one of the changelogs made it seem like we kill him

[rotund shore]

tbh rn the design just feels boring to me, so im glad we're getting that

whenever I have complaints about the mod, alot of the time I learn they're being fixed

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s great

[rotund shore]

like, a few weeks ago I was complaining about triactis' hammer not getting reworked to fit with the others, and then like 2 days later they revealed that rework

[dusk laurel]

124 - Added gores for Astrum Deus. - Done ✅

_ _

[rotund shore]

tbh gores is just, any particles after an enemy dies

[cosmic zenith]

It's because those gores were already made, and just were never implemented for some reason

They're quite old

[split mortar]

Bruh

Still yeah, great to hear all the things coming in SSO

It’s gotten me more hyped for the update then any other

[warm gull]

would calamitas canonically kill you during the rematch sparring if you did poorly?

[stark basalt]

is Yharim the one talking during boss rush?

[dusk laurel]

no.

that would be Xeroc

God of Primodrial Light

[sinful adder]

This sounds cool but it also doesn't make that much sense I think because the astral infection seems really weak and doesn't spread

Then again, maybe it's just a gameplay thing

[stark basalt]

ohh alr

[dusk laurel]

it is gameplay

[split mortar]

No it’s the first god, who may be at the universal strength limit

[dusk laurel]

why would you want a 3rd spreading evil biome

[stark basalt]

draedon gives us shit tons of lore in while communicating

[stark basalt]

Okk

[split mortar]

Yeah he does, and exposes yharim a bit aswell unknowingly

[stark basalt]

We need more yharim lore

AND ADDED

...

[sinful adder]

Idea: a passive uninfected astrum deus randomly spawns in the space layer and flies across the world, spawning celestial fragments and fallen stars

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

Post Deus?

[sinful adder]

More generally, astrum deus should be like the dragons from BOTW

[stark basalt]

dragon isles need more lore

[sinful adder]

Mechanics wise

[stark basalt]

cuz all we have in draedon and the lore items

[split mortar]

Dragon isles? You mean aerie?

[dusk laurel]

that might be annoying to code in

[stark basalt]

yes thay

[dusk laurel]

unless its only in the bg

[stark basalt]

we need more lore fr

[sinful adder]

It would not be very hard I think

[stark basalt]

its funny that Draedon wanted to recreate a clone of calamitas and got an eye ball instead

[dusk laurel]

old sprite.

[split mortar]

It will be the arena for yharim fight so it will likely get lore and importance (though we know what it was used for)

[stark basalt]

"It wasn't long before you defeated my doppleganger. Quite the failure, isn't it?"

[dusk laurel]

old lore

outdated

[split mortar]

Old dialogue sadly

[stark basalt]

Which dialogue

[dusk laurel]

calclone

[split mortar]

This

I think

[stark basalt]

oh

[split mortar]

Boss dialogue hasn’t been rewritten except for draedons and boss rush I think

[stark basalt]

hm

[split mortar]

So except for those two we can’t use them sadly (SSO may fox the dialogue though)

[dusk laurel]

scal dialogue rewrite will be in sso

idk about everything else

[stark basalt]

stained brutal calamity song lore?

[dusk laurel]

no

that's part of the ost

can't be changed, but it has canon sections

not all of it is of course

[stark basalt]

xd

its funny that you can't understand shit the song says

without lyrics

lol

[split mortar]

Like the part mentioning they were sent by their ruler

[stark basalt]

exactly

Yharim?

[split mortar]

Since she left yharim before the player fight

[dusk laurel]

he didn't send her

she left long before

and she hates him

[split mortar]

Yeah he was the one who sent her in old lore

[stark basalt]

ye

whats the internum lore about the forgotten shadow of calamitas

FALSE WITCH
CALAMITAS

Forgotten Shadow of Catastrophe
Forgotten Shadow of Cataclysm

[split mortar]

Uhh, I think it’s the same as the clone just that they wanted to be funky and change name and model

[stark basalt]

I feel as if the lore tells this false witch was of course cloned and abused power

her quotes during battle are so cocky

[split mortar]

Pretty sure she genuinely thinks she is supreme witch cal

[dusk laurel]

current lore for clone is that she is a clone

[untold bluff]

I

am Steve

[dusk laurel]

die.

[stark basalt]

Fr

[stark basalt]

💀

[split mortar]

Explode

[stark basalt]

pls go

[dusk laurel]

and that scal gave her the brimstone powers

[stark basalt]

We are terrarians

[cloud ibex]

you are bowser

[stark basalt]

valid

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

Go to the eels

[stark basalt]

we are terrarians not
stevers

[dusk laurel]

"go to the eels" 🗣️🔥

[stark basalt]

Get eaten by the adult eidolon wyrm! 🗣️

[dusk laurel]

primordial wyrm*

name changed with lore rewrite

[split mortar]

jared*

[dusk laurel]

valid

[stark basalt]

i returned to calamity a few months ago i must relearn

[stark basalt]

wait a minute.. does astrum aureus have balls?

[stark basalt]

you

[split mortar]

If you want a way to see all lore there is the doc in pins

Or you could ask here

[split mortar]

It’s a robot, no

[stark basalt]

Lmao

[split mortar]

Unless draedon was being freaky but this ain’t a site that starts with rule and ends in a double digit number, so he ain’t weird

[untold bluff]

Freaky draedon wtf

[stark basalt]

then the devourer of gods has balls
as he was armored by draedon right?

[dusk laurel]

no.

he is a worm

they don't have those

also why are we talking about this?

[cloud ibex]

convo cancelled ! brick attack

[split mortar]

He from distortion, may not have a reproductive system

[hot valve]

^

[untold bluff]

who knows, he has a mysterious anatomy anyways

[dusk laurel]

^

[stark basalt]

DoG can bench press 4000 pounds so that's why he deals almost our entire hp

[split mortar]

He is also big enough to eat providence in resprite

[hot valve]

He is quite huge

[split mortar]

(Like legit 5 times bigger)

[stark basalt]

In infernum he is truly armored

[hot valve]

He can eat the exo mechs lmao

[stark basalt]

and he's speedy boy

[tall delta]

false

[hot valve]

Though they would probably kill him from the inside

[dusk laurel]

infernum sprite is not lore accurate

[split mortar]

He beeg

[tall delta]

atleast not big enough to eat in one bite

[stark basalt]

Yeah see

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s small

[hot valve]

The whole “devouring” process that occurs in his body is very unknown

If it were to disassemble the molecular structure of anything and then send it to Noxus, that would be overtly strong

So it likely isn’t necessarily that

[stark basalt]

"Just stop!"
"I have no future if I lose here."
"Once you have bested me, you will only have one path forward."
"And that path... also has no future."
"Even if he has thrown all else away, his power remains."
"I have no more energy left to resent him, or you..."
"It will all be in your hands now."

[dusk laurel]

old dialogue

[stark basalt]

outdated or nah

[dusk laurel]

getting replaced

[stark basalt]

gg

infernum scal is chad

Doesn't talk shit during the fight so you don't get distracted

[dusk laurel]

just ignore the dialogue

easy as that

[stark basalt]

she only says one thing at 1% hp
... Congratulations.

i got her once down to 30% hp

gonna try to beat her tmrw

man

[split mortar]

Yeah, but dog is among the strongest in the verse so it wouldn’t be that broken for a guy like them to have it

[split mortar]

Oh good luck

[stark basalt]

also whats this thing about desert scourge remodel to a new "dry, aquatic" type of sprite

[dusk laurel]

how it should've been

old and new lore showed that it was a sea animal

[split mortar]

It was never a desert animal

[stark basalt]

Sprite didn't work

[dusk laurel]

then scal burnt the sea

[stark basalt]

didn't fit the theme

[dusk laurel]

exactly

[stark basalt]

I know

[dusk laurel]

that's why the new one will be better

[stark basalt]

gg

[dusk laurel]

#mod-announcements message

here.

[stark basalt]

I saw it already

[split mortar]

(Plus a certain someone made the current ones concept art)

[dusk laurel]

okay

^

they shalt be mentioned

[stark basalt]

also this is a personal opinion

[dusk laurel]

never utter the cursed one's name

[stark basalt]

DoGs first and second phase sprites

are goddamn ugly

💀

[split mortar]

Current or resprite?

[stark basalt]

current

[split mortar]

Current? I agree

[cloud ibex]

person who made the current design wanted it out

[stark basalt]

looks like a gray stick

[split mortar]

Both are armoured when phase one is meant to be unarmoured

[stark basalt]

LMAO

[split mortar]

Even in old lore iirc

[dusk laurel]

they were also a pedo

so it added urgency to remove it

[stark basalt]

irl lore 💀

[split mortar]

What’s with adults and children

[manic coral]

Ok let's not get into that here please

[split mortar]

Alright

[dusk laurel]

yea

[stark basalt]

Yes master

[manic coral]

???

[dusk laurel]

?

[split mortar]

Shut

Weirdo

[stark basalt]

lul

[stark basalt]

???

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-gif-11142067914485832931

[tall delta]

calamitous

[dusk laurel]

cataclysmic

[stark basalt]

chillaxe bro

[split mortar]

Catastrophic

[stark basalt]

imcool

[manic coral]

anyways but yeah new sprite does represent it being a sea creature that adapted to the desert better than current

[split mortar]

Which I’m hype about

[manic coral]

It was funny seeing complains that it looked "too wet"

like

[split mortar]

that’s the fucking point

[tall delta]

bringing the question again where would the xeroc boss fight take place in (if it ever happen

[manic coral]

yeah

that's

that's the point

[split mortar]

The sun

[cloud ibex]

waffle house parking lot

[manic coral]

no inside a waffle house

[split mortar]

Pfft

[tall delta]

hmm true....

[cloud ibex]

she makes a good point

[split mortar]

Xeroc canonically a waffle house emoloyeee

[stark basalt]

she/her
I didn't see
goddamnit

[dusk laurel]

very true

eol is a employee

[manic coral]

waffle house index my beloved

[split mortar]

Wha huh

[warm gull]

I'd like to bump this now that a dev is here

[manic coral]

that. wasnt really my issue there.

[stark basalt]

Watch WaffleTime

[pliant ruin]

i am the way the truth and the life

[manic coral]

but whatever

also probably not

[cloud ibex]

i'd imagine she might

[pliant ruin]

nobdoy comes through the fathr except rhoguh me

[split mortar]

Oh the YouTuber

[stark basalt]

GODDAMNIT ok 💀

[pliant ruin]

6 dollar shrimp special

[stark basalt]

HE'S CHAD

[dusk laurel]

are you melting?

[stark basalt]

i always build the Waffle Wood Workshop for storage

[cloud ibex]

maybe not intentionally but maybe in the "oh. i really did think you were gonna dodge that" sense

[pliant ruin]

no i'm cheese

hi lore chat what are we talkinga bout

[dusk laurel]

cheese melts tho

[manic coral]

hi cheese :D

[split mortar]

Uhhh some stuff

[stark basalt]

we're using you to defeat many post moon lord bosses.

Cheese.

[split mortar]

Like scal accidental killing player in refight

[stark basalt]

Jk

[dusk laurel]

killing you

[warm gull]

plosion

[pliant ruin]

i think it depends on how much you think scal was going out in the rematch in-universe

[stark basalt]

how can u cheese me

[split mortar]

Prob fully imo

[pliant ruin]

i personally think she was holding back since she's not trying to Kill You this time so i personally doubt it

[stark basalt]

i dont despawn

im not a worm boss

[dusk laurel]

also her magic slowly drives her insane

[warm gull]

was this in response to my question

[dusk laurel]

so there's that

[manic coral]

ye

[pliant ruin]

yeah probably don't want to use

[warm gull]

alr

[pliant ruin]

much of her magic

for training

[cloud ibex]

i can imagine it happening in a softer Toriel sense

[split mortar]

Cei
Hope you’re enjoying lore chats random ramblings

[stark basalt]

her npc form hates the brimstone crag

[manic coral]

I always do

[split mortar]

Good to hear

[stark basalt]

She just wants out from brimstone magic and stuff

[dusk laurel]

because she accidentally destroyed it while protecting it from brimmy

[stark basalt]

elemental?

[dusk laurel]

yes.

[stark basalt]

yh

[split mortar]

Yeah brim fought scal to a tie

[dusk laurel]

they both destroyed it

[warm gull]

well something like that

[dusk laurel]

since there was a whole fight

[warm gull]

she fought brimmy is p much it

[manic coral]

I will say that seeing people talk here is one way I see what should be elaborated on

[warm gull]

and azafure was destroyed in the wake

[split mortar]

Fire against fire isn’t a good way to stop a city fire it turns out

[dusk laurel]

the first city...

[split mortar]

Oh makes sense

[cosmic zenith]

It isn't really weak, since it's early HM
And it's relentless, which is the worst part

[stark basalt]

im out gtg

Cya yall

[split mortar]

Byeee

[cosmic zenith]

Note that this means Xeroc is the strongest a character could become, not that they have universal-level powers

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[manic coral]

people when their favorite character from a story doesn't scale to hyper ultra mega doom outer godverseal

[split mortar]

(I heard Noxus is more destructive but worse at a fight then xeroc but I assume that’s noxus being at the distortion strength limit if it has a seperate one)

[split mortar]

If they did that would be cringe

[pliant ruin]

my favorite character from a story is a guy with a bug arm

he scales to uhhhh

he can kill a hobo with a knife i guess

[dusk laurel]

epic

[warm gull]

well xeroc isn't at any limit iirc. I'm pretty sure they're the strongest because of their perfect ascension, attunement, and the fact that they've had at least a thousand years to get good at fighting

[split mortar]

Litteraly human level

[manic coral]

My favorite character from a story is a grumpy sarcastic emo dude that looks like he's going to enter his midlife crisis soon

[split mortar]

^

[cloud ibex]

district 9

[dusk laurel]

of what?

[cloud ibex]

i think it's set in south africa

can't remember

[pliant ruin]

tbf hes probably above your average human by virtue of having a big bug arm he can use to stab people wtih

[warm gull]

I highly doubt that xeroc has peaked their own or the universe's power limit...

[split mortar]

If I were to pick one I’d prob pick Niko from oneshot, who scales to about 10 year old child

[manic coral]

Oneshot is great

[warm gull]

what if I used a gun on him

[indigo glade]

A.

[split mortar]

It had me staring at the end screen when niko leaves for 40 minutes

[dusk laurel]

so violent...

[pliant ruin]

well don't do that

but if you did he'll come back because he's sort of somewhat immortal

[dusk laurel]

have we not learnt of our faults?

[pliant ruin]

i forgot to say that part

[warm gull]

what if I put whatever he uses to respawn in the Pain Box

[pliant ruin]

well don't do that also

[dusk laurel]

sadistic

[indigo glade]

its nearly midnight and im bored...

[dusk laurel]

not cool

go to sleep.

[split mortar]

So he is like athlete level with pseudo immortality

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc can beat Demonic Spider Mode real???

[split mortar]

What?

[dusk laurel]

It's real

[indigo glade]

You heard them.

[pliant ruin]

yeah basicallyu

[cosmic zenith]

Joke Mode from when we were making the difficulty UI

[pliant ruin]

well

[indigo glade]

Xeroc can beat Demonic Spider Mode.

[pliant ruin]

athlete is a underestimation

[split mortar]

Ohhh

[pliant ruin]

he is a war veteran

so its more like

random soldier level

with pseudo immortality

like he's stronger than most people but he's still at a strenght level that a real life human could probably achieve or get close to

[warm gull]

would xeroc kill a child if killing the child also killed noxus

[split mortar]

Don’t professional boxers count as athletes?

[split mortar]

Uhh probably

[pliant ruin]

probably yeah

smth smth the greater good smth smth

[tall delta]

yeah

[indigo glade]

They killed Zeratros to prevent another Moon Lord fucking everything up.

[split mortar]

Smth smth child dies to the light emitted smth smth

[dusk laurel]

the child idk smth smth explodes

[warm gull]

yes they killed zeratros who they were attuned to and who had already nearly died fighting the moon lord but I'm just talking about some random kid

didn't do anything

[split mortar]

Still yeah

[tall delta]

still yes

[warm gull]

just like randomly got soul linked to noxus

[dusk laurel]

yeag

[warm gull]

ok

[pliant ruin]

"xeroc if you kill this baby noxus dies instantly. surely you wouldn't do that th-
"ok so if i kill this singular barely conscious baby the entire world gets saved from a otherworldly horror"
"y-yeah?"
"and i don't have to spend 300 more years trying to find out where noxus is?"
"...yeah..."
"and i kill it instantly so there's no risk of me or anyone else who might be nearby getting injured or defeated?"
"... "

[dusk laurel]

can't have another moonlord

[indigo glade]

Precisely.

[warm gull]

xeroc would kill baby austrian painter

[pliant ruin]

rest in peace john goo goo gaa gaa

[dusk laurel]

don't speak of him

he is BANNED

[indigo glade]

Xeroc is able to put aside short term consequences like killing your soul attuned best friend or a baby for a long term greater good.

[split mortar]

And the child may die anyway

To noxus

[warm gull]

xeroc is more ruthless than deadpool

[dusk laurel]

what's a deadpool

[warm gull]

crazy red guy

[indigo glade]

It is when you have a pool of dead people.

[dusk laurel]

awesome.

[indigo glade]

Sims 4 Pool strategy.

[warm gull]

okay yeah I don't imagine this would change the answer but

I was referring to like

an 8yo child

not a baby

[dusk laurel]

still yes

[pliant ruin]

yeah still

at best

i think xeroc would let the little guy have his last moments be peaceful or something and give him a painless death but

he'd still kill him

[dusk laurel]

epicsauce.

[split mortar]

Same

[indigo glade]

"Nothing personnel, kid"
Fucking blasts an eight year old.

What if Xeroc actually became a God so that they could stop aging to keep watching One Piece as it was airing.

One Piece has actually been airing for over 800 years.

[dusk laurel]

you have summoned Rebecca

maybe, idk

[indigo glade]

One Piece.

There, I said it three times.

[split mortar]

One piece

One piece

One piece

[spare pier]

Yeah you solved the story

[dusk laurel]

we did it!

[split mortar]

Oh it worked

Can I get omni by saying monster hunter?

[warm gull]

omnicide

omnicide

omnicide

[dusk laurel]

i'm sealing you onto the moon

[warm gull]

he will appear and react as if I personally intend to find and murder him

[indigo glade]

Thank you. I always knew my theories were correct.

[warm gull]

holy kettle

[split mortar]

That’s moonlord not providence

[tall delta]

I think gods already dont age

[dusk laurel]

what if i sealed provi on the moon?

[spring helm]

maybe they do maybe they dont
perhaps they just have an extended lifespan

[warm gull]

gods bodies change shape into their eventual final form iirc

[split mortar]

Permanent enrage

[indigo glade]

Yes, that is what I said, thank you for noticing.

[spring helm]

that could explain why they wanted yharim to be god-king, maybe they were getting old and needed a method of rebirth

[dusk laurel]

crap.

[warm gull]

I'd like to see a stage diagram depicting how providence slowly transformed into whatever the hell she is

[tall delta]

lul oopsie

[dusk laurel]

provi concept art that isn't made yet in question:

cosmaticmango is gonna make 3 provi forms

[warm gull]

would actually be a compelling reason and also give a good reason for yharim to tell them to piss off

[dusk laurel]

eventually, who knows when

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggy-jump-bite-rah-gif-16579809368338670257

Tiny ass gif

[radiant matrix]

Wait guys mod for 2d pixel game really have lore wth?

[dusk laurel]

any piece of media can have lore

[calm patio]

^

[warm gull]

@calm patio

sorry just pinged indiscriminantly

actually lore doesn't even need to have any piece of media attached to it

the lore can be the media

it's called uh

I don't know if this is right

but I believe it's called a "book"

[dusk laurel]

libel.

byeah books are media

that can be the lore themselves

[quasi depot]

I need a nerdy guy for 30 minutes to come to dms and explain the calamity lore to me

[dusk laurel]

but scrolls and other methods of containing information can also be the lore

and they are much more old

[quasi depot]

It would be so sick

[tall delta]

theres is a doc in the pins

[dusk laurel]

^

even though it isn't finished

it contains all ingame lore

because where would dev statements even fit in that doc

[quasi depot]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-26438788

Lame

[tall delta]

its life

[warm gull]

the doc is scary to read

large number of pages

can't count that high

[quasi depot]

That's what I'm saying!

My statement still stands

[dusk laurel]

illiteracy in this community...

[yes I know everyone here can read]

[dusk laurel]

cat

[indigo glade]

Car.

[dusk laurel]

hey seeker

i have a quest for you

[quasi depot]

I must wait

[indigo glade]

What is it?

[dusk laurel]

there is a user that needs the lore explained to them

and they won't read the lore doc

[indigo glade]

Well then, I wish them luck.

[scenic olive]

Yharim when he fights a no hitter

[scenic olive]

[dusk laurel]

imagine true meleeing yharim

and nohitting him too

[scenic olive]

Doc lore read does even take 19 minutes

if you read the whole thing

but mostly youll only ready the important lore parts

[dusk laurel]

if you don't read bestiary entries it's less than 30 minutes

and not all of them are too important

they are just minor worldbuilding stuff

[scenic olive]

Ive only read them once

Knowing the rest of the lore is just me dilly dallying around and asking questions

[dusk laurel]

fair

personally i read the thing 10 times over

maybe it's a mental condition

[scenic olive]

Loretism

Lorephilia

Lorem ipsum

[dusk laurel]

Haltamti

[scenic olive]

I wonder

can you revive people more than once using necromancy

[dusk laurel]

that is an interesting concept

maybe that's why scal can still summon all of her lackeys during the rematch

wait.

i can't use that word anymore

[scenic olive]

that makes sense

her minions

that actually makes sense

So you can revive people more than once

otherwise the brothers wont spawn when you fight scal the second time

[dusk laurel]

or the sepulcher

[quasi depot]

Man...

[indigo glade]

Why wouldn't you? They're just a pile of bones.

[quasi depot]

Where are the nerdy guys when you need them

[tall delta]

there where creature called Auric dragons that lived in terraria, their king is called zeratros, the dragon of primordial light(primordial light is the sun basically), auric dragons have domains of like aspects of nature and concepts, one day omega squid fovos attacked terraria one thing happened another thing happened he killed lots of auric dragons and heavily wounded zeratros

[scenic olive]

thats like

[dusk laurel]

"omega squid" 😭

[scenic olive]

uhh barely

[dusk laurel]

that's a way to put it

[tall delta]

zeratros goes to the aerie xeroc the monk steals their auric soul ascend them dips to space

[quasi depot]

Yeah I got

[dusk laurel]

[quasi depot]

None of that

[scenic olive]

But that doesnt explain the Yharim uprising

[cosmic zenith]

Dragonpilled warrior commits heinous warcrimes to end deific worship

[dusk laurel]

real, this is the true calamity mod

[cosmic zenith]

What a Calamity

[tall delta]

great

[magic epoch]

"this was truly calamitous"
-calamitas from the calamity mod

post the image and you die btw

[dusk laurel]

and you what?

[tall delta]

Man that likes auric dragons got thrown in lava by evil gods that consumed auric soul by killing auric dragons along with rebirth dragon yharon, yharon gets out of egg saves man, man wants revenge agaisnt gods

[magic epoch]

not that one, the other one

[tall delta]

thats the basicz.....

[scenic olive]

So basically
Fovos(Space Horror also known as ML) invade terraria
Many Dragons died protecting terraria
One of them Zeratros had their soul merged with Xeroc which then would become the very first god
With massive casualties on the dragons and Xeroc becoming a god rumors and word spreads and everyone now hunts the remaining dragons in hopes of achieving godhood by using the dragons soul
that marks the end of the Dragon Era

and the start of Deific Era

gods would start to have followers and worshipper

then somewhere between that era Yharim was born

the gods said he would be destined as the god king

he refused to become one and got thrown to lava

and he died(totally)

end of calamity

[dusk laurel]

"it was just a prank bro."

[scenic olive]

It never happens

the whole calamity story is just terrarian having schizophrenia

[dusk laurel]

Causes the deaths of 100+ million people

[frozen zodiac]

would a Don Quixote comparison fit

[scenic olive]

I have never read that

[spring helm]

“FACE ME GOD!!”

“Terrarian that’s a windmill”

[dusk laurel]

that's based

i confused some clothes as an elder demon before

[warm gull]

dragonpilled warrior commits heinous warcrimes in the name of atheism

[elder ruin]

I'm a touch confused, is Yharim from Terraria (the world the player is from/on), or did he come from elsewhere?

[pliant ruin]

He is from terraria yes

He's a human

A abnormally powerful human, but still a human

[magic epoch]

would it be incorrect to call him a cyborg

[pliant ruin]

Whilst we don't know exactyl where he came from, he lived in some sort of civilization ruled by some particularly tyrannical/malicious gods

[pliant ruin]

I'd say so

He's not really a cyborg, he can take his armor off

[scenic olive]

hes powered by yhanger and yhate and a little bit of auric

[pliant ruin]

He just never does

[scenic olive]

correction yhauric*

[elder ruin]

Okay, I was confused because of the way he talks about Astrum Deus. He says "On our world" as if he's from somewhere else

[pliant ruin]

"On our world" here refers to Earth but i can see how that might cause a bit of confusion

[elder ruin]

Because that thing is definitely from somewhere else, if I'm to understand where the Astral biome is from

[magic epoch]

Talking to the player, so it could be seen as our (plural) (me and you)

[scenic olive]

Astral biome

Mana Blight

Corrupted Magic

[pliant ruin]

Astrum Deus is from Space

[elder ruin]

Yeah I can see how it'd be read that way, but I'm confused as to why a diety from elsewhere would be worshipped here. Unless I'm to assume it's visited here before?

[scenic olive]

me when space worm

[pliant ruin]

Not really anywhere else specifically in space

Just sort of

In space, itself

It lives within the cosmos itself rather than any other planets within it. Like a space whale basically

[scenic olive]

People just know deus as the god of the Night Sky

even though deus is not really an auric god

[magic epoch]

god of the stars ermm

[scenic olive]

actually

is deus a serpent

or a worm

[pliant ruin]

Neither because he's an alien

He's not a being that evolved on earth and thus dosen't conform to earth biology

[magic epoch]

just a vaguely serpentine shape

[scenic olive]

okay what do i get to name it

Astrumus Deus Worminicus

[elder ruin]

Actually, that's also a question I wanted to ask; what exactly were the crimes/sins Yharim committed?

I mean, other than killing gods and waging war on their followers.

'cause we do that too.

[magic epoch]

genocide

mass genocide

like

[pliant ruin]

Okay so this one is a very long ansawer

[magic epoch]

A third of the worlds population I think

[scenic olive]

what about DoG he is confirmed a serpent right

[magic epoch]

I think that's just like

A name given to him to refer to a hypothetical "species"

Keep in mind that the secondary title is "The Nameless Serpent"

[scenic olive]

he left his army to rot in the dungeon too

is a warcriminal probably

[pliant ruin]

Yharim's crimes are far beyond anything the Terrarian has done; The terrarian if anything has almost exclusively done good at a base level, given almost all of the bosses we kill were either outright malicious or immediate threats to us. Yharim on the other hand committed a mass genocidal crusade against every god, not regarding their morals or philosophies, but judging them all the same due to their identity as gods. Good gods, Neutral Gods, Evil gods, it didn't matter, they were all killed. And this is also not to account the morally deplorable things yharim did to reach this goal, including but not limited to doing things that can only be described as war crimes (Skeletron prime lore item), causing ecological collapses (Sunken sea), killing millions of people who weren't even gods (Again, Sunken sea) and manipulating a emotionally vulnerable child to essentially act as his reusable nuclear bomb (Calamitas)

And that's not even all of it

[scenic olive]

AS

[pliant ruin]

The terrarian kills gods, but unless your personal interpretation of them says otherwise, given they're a character that is essentially a blank slate for you to insert whatever, none of the gods they kill are killed because they are gods

[scenic olive]

I kill gods because i hate gods rhahhh

terrarian headcanon

[pliant ruin]

They do so because, y'know, they sort of are trying to kill us. Providence is arguably the only character in the lore that rivals Yharim in how malicious she is, Ravager while not outright "Evil" is a destructive force with barely any sapience left, and killing it is basically an act of mercy at this point, and Slime God attacked you out of the blue

[scenic olive]

what was in slime gods head

i mean we are weak as shite then

[pliant ruin]

Slime god has barely any lore rn honestly

[scenic olive]

can we get some slime god lore

[pliant ruin]

Probably getting more with the rework, and if not, most definitely with Statis when he gets added

[elder ruin]

I was under the impression that becoming a god in and of itself required killing a dragon and absorbing its power, at least aside from Astrum Deus, which Yharim chose not kill specifically because of that.

[pliant ruin]

It does, yes

But that does not necessarily mean all gods are malicious

[scenic olive]

technically deus is not a god

[pliant ruin]

There were, in fact, also Malicious Dragons which sort of Deserved to die

And that's not accounting any external nuance the ascencion ritual might've had

[scenic olive]

gods like otonilou and tyrian were actual uh, good guys?

cant say theyre good but theyre arent actively trying to destroy the world and unleash chaos

[pliant ruin]

Perhaps a dragon had already been dying and a god killed it as an act of mercy, Perhaps a dragon was indeed benevolent, but a god had to kill it because it needed that power to prevent some great catastrophe, etc.

Yharim's entire thing is that he sees things in black and white, when they're more like, gray

There absolutely are malicious gods that most definitely deserved to be killed, as seen by the Evil Biomes and Providence

[scenic olive]

its just because he was taught by Yharon and decide for himself that all gods must be banished

[pliant ruin]

But there were also plenty of benevolent gods, such as the deceased gods of the Sunken sea

And the hallow in itself, has origins similar to that of the evil biomes; Being a biome made of lingering divine essence from fallen gods. The only difference is that the Hallow is made of gods that were more so alligned on the benevolent side of things.

[elder ruin]

Where were these two mentioned? I can't find them in the wiki's main lore page, and I don't remember the names.

[pliant ruin]

Otonilou was confirmed to be more or less a "Saint" in terms of personality, according to dev statements

[scenic olive]

what about Providence then

[pliant ruin]

I recommend reading the lore doc pinned here rather than the wiki

[scenic olive]

why is she associated with Hallow

[pliant ruin]

She's not

That's just remnants of old lore

[scenic olive]

[elder ruin]

oh heck thanks for pointing that out for me

[pliant ruin]

But to answer that

[scenic olive]

cant wait for rework

[pliant ruin]

Otonilou and Tyrian are the two gods who used to live in the Sunken Sea before it was incinerated, with both of them dying

They were both considered benevolent

We will likely get more info on them once the sunken sea update releases, as most we have to go off rn are discussions within this channel

[scenic olive]

dont forget Silva

[pliant ruin]

Also np

[scenic olive]

the first Elemental to become a God

Goddess

i wish there were more elemental that turn into god

really makes her that special

its a shame what Silva is doing can make things go out of balance

they really had to put her back in the abyss lmao

[pliant ruin]

She's gotten used to it by now, even got a pet fishy : D

[magic epoch]

elemental goddess of life vs the auric dragon of death

[scenic olive]

that pet is a giant sea serpentine that hates light and is probably impervious to any and all damage except for their eyes and mouth

also summons thunder

uses ice and shadow magic

and literally the first wyrm of all eidolon wyrms

dont worry he wont bite ahh

[real silo]

She's named princess

She's the sweetest little girl

[magic epoch]

this doesn't mention anything about being agressive

Jared is simply a pitbull

[real silo]

hates light

[scenic olive]

[magic epoch]

i have an invisibility potion

also it seems it only hates a specific kind of light

[real silo]

Yes if you have that light it'll get aggressive

Angy gamer worm

Zero vitamin D

[elder ruin]

I guess I'm just not feelin' very motivated to really side against Yharim; most of the gods I've encountered have been kinda jerks. (Or had followers who were jerks)

I feel like there should be more indication that these good gods exist still and are worth fighting for if the player's supposed to have motivation to stop him.

Then again, it could just be because I like dragons, and hearing "These guys killed all the dragons" is apparently enough to make me angry at them, too.

[magic epoch]

there aren't many god left considering yharim killed most of them and fed them to his pet DoG

[real silo]

You'll really see the pov of the good gods once SSO drops

[elder ruin]

Two genocides don't make a not-genocide, of course, but I don't think countering that by killing the sole remaining dragon would fix that either. Kinda feels like I'm just a reaper going around and finishing both sides off at this point though.

[elder ruin]

Well, here's hoping!

[lusty grove]

We dont go after yharon lore wise iirc

He sees us going up in the power rank and decides to confront our character before we get out of control and kill Yharim

We do summon him because gameplay reasons i think

I could be wrong though

[cosmic zenith]

Yep
There's also the fact that you can see how the Dragons aren't necessarily models of virtue

[lusty grove]

True

Providences dragon was evil iirc wasnt it

[elder ruin]

Yeah I was under the impression we do summon him. Or at least, we did? Looking at the change log it seems his second phase is no longer a resummon you do.

[lusty grove]

(doesnt make her less evil but still)

[lusty grove]

The summon item is mostly gameplay convenience

[cosmic zenith]

Yharon is very clearly not the most benevolent Dragon rn, though of course it's understandable how he acts

[lusty grove]

Tailoring an encounter like Yharon lore wise to gameplay would require terraria to work like regular story based single player games

With checkpoints and all that

Which doesnt mesh well with terraria

[lusty grove]

True too

Yharon is tragic because we get why hes extremely hateful towards gods

But it doesnt excuse what they did

[elder ruin]

Could just have him appear like the mech bosses/EoC instead? Like, that'd fit the narrative way better anyway that he's out here hunting us down.

[cosmic zenith]

If Yharon was hunting you down, you'd be dead before you reached post-ML

[lusty grove]

Yeah

[eager bluff]

i mean he is the most benevolent rn because . hes the only one

[cosmic zenith]

And natural spawns aren't the greatest
They have to be really well done

[lusty grove]

Plus yharon can sorta

Wipe your whole town

[spring helm]

i do wonder how our relationship with yharon would be like if we weren't seen as a threat to yharim

[lusty grove]

Thatd probably not be fun for someone clueless

Imagine doing a buncha reforges and shit then out of nowhere oops, all dead npcs

[spring helm]

oh boy i sure do love living in a wooden town

[lusty grove]

I feel like hed just ignore us tbh

[elder ruin]

You say that as if the mechs, moonlord, and even EoC haven't done that multiple times, even when I have known they were coming.

Accidentally getting a boss to spawn on your base is just part of terraria.

[lusty grove]

EoC wiping npcs?

I could get destroyer and moonlord but i personally never had EoC or skeleprime and twins do that, though thats just my experience

[elder ruin]

When it's early enough, yeah. Dude can trash a population if his pattern feels like it. Especially if you're on a higher difficulty.

[spring helm]

y'all fight moonlord on the ground?

[lusty grove]

I fight him on the beach

[spring helm]

it's always on a sky arena with him for me

[lusty grove]

The beach that m-

[cosmic zenith]

Yharon, in my experience, requires a lot more preparation than those bosses

And well, ML is technically summoned by you

[lusty grove]

I fight him on the beach always

[cosmic zenith]

By destroying the Pillars

[real silo]

the beach that monkeys

[lusty grove]

True

[spring helm]

wait so does that mean the pillars are good?

[cosmic zenith]

Not sure where you got that implication from

[spring helm]

im tweaking rn

[lusty grove]

After getting trashed by DoG for over 30 attempts and then winning after fighting him on the beach i started always doing him and Ynaron there

[spring helm]

on that "staying up late to write lecture notes before class" shit

[lusty grove]

I remember hearing someone else say that in the past too so ig they think its because you have to kill them otherwise ml doesnt spawn?

[spring helm]

im not that big into actually fighting bosses so if it gets too difficult i just turn super saiyan (activate cheats) and win

[lusty grove]

Its 1AM rn here and i have to wake up 6:30AM

[lusty grove]

Hardest boss in the mod when i pull up dragonlens butcher tool:

[elder ruin]

I dunno, maybe I've just played too many souls-likes where the game isn't afraid to just utterly annihilate you, but I wouldn't mind having Yharon just show up every couple of nights to terrorize me.

It'd be annoying, sure, but then killing him finally would be cathartic, and above all that I'd have a solid reason to want to slay him other than "He's next in boss progression"

'cause honestly I'm thinking of trying to skip him and just see how that ends up.

[lusty grove]

Not well because you need to kill him to progress

Scal altar and last codebreaker part need auric bars

Which need yharon kill iirc

[elder ruin]

Oh right and you can't craft exo summons without full tech progression...

[sinful adder]

Yharon is just as evil as yharim so you should kill him

[spring helm]

i can fix them

and by fix i mean take responsibility for their actions and help rebuilt this broken world

at gunpoint

[sinful adder]

No you can't

[spring helm]

yes i can

[sinful adder]

You cannot redeem someone that evil

[spring helm]

i didnt say redeem but alright

[sinful adder]

Nor can you have any real power over them unless you destroy their soul

[elder ruin]

I guess you just hopped in without reading the above, but that's my whole problem. Yharon doesn't seem evil enough as he's presented in game right now.

[sinful adder]

Oh, yeah

[elder ruin]

In lore he might be the most evil thing imaginable, but in game he's just vibing somewhere until I make that summon.

And his motivation is getting revenge after being pushed to extinction. And the gods we do encounter are all jerks, so we really need more motivation if we're gonna go kill the last living member of a species.

[spring helm]

this is why we need Braetalk

so he can talk about all the awful stuff that Yharim's crusaders' did back in the day

from the perspective of one who sided with the gods

[devout grotto]

I need that so bad pls

[elder ruin]

Dude, I'd be so on board for that. I wanna hear the other side of this story!!

[sinful adder]

Yharon was on board with everything yharim did and I suspect he made up like half of Xeroc's origin story when he told it to yharim

[devout grotto]

Some of the stories I wanna make are literally about groups against Yharim

[lusty grove]

Its a bit funny that one of the only gods that remained was also one of the vilest (providence)

[elder ruin]

And of the gods that are already dead, their corpses are still doing harm.

[lusty grove]

Tbh thats because Yharim seemingly didnt bother cleaning up

[elder ruin]

Also, if he did make it up, I'd rather see more contradictions and evidence that he did, such that we've reason to doubt him.

[spring helm]

"I used to have a sword, one made of wood. It had been enchanted by the druids of my village to be able to attune to different energies and express different abilities.

I lost it the same day I lost the village.

When they arrived, they were ruthless and indiscriminate. I would never forget the visage of terror that flew in the air, burning the streets and blowing up houses. The earth shook and opened from the movements of a mechanical serpent. A pair of eyes watched from above and let not one escape."

something like this

[elder ruin]

Basically, I want more lore. 👀

[spring helm]

lore

[elder ruin]

And mind you, if this is actually supposed to be a story about how power corrupts, and we're supposed to be seeing the player make more and more questionable decisions to 'advance', then well done, I feel myself questioning my morals pretty soundly.

But I've not seen a lot of indication that I'm supposed to see the player character as that sort of figure, even if my hellevators, construction projects, wanton abuse of Clentaminator solution, mass murder for farming purposes, and general apathetic demeanor towards NPCs would state otherwise.

That's just a Terraria player being a Terraria player. You gotta dig massive chasms or the corruption and hallow will spread all over the place! And if you have a couple thousand stone laying around, why not build a monument or something with it? That's just game stuff.

...And also gotta kill the guide for wall of flesh.

That's part of base game, and kinda unavoidable without rewriting the core gameplay

So I take that as dubiously canon at best.

[lusty grove]

The player story is a bit more ambiguous

It really depends on the person, but it sets up for that potential if its what you desire for your character

[spring helm]

i should write another fishing chapter

[elder ruin]

Exactly! I just would like to see more potential for good actions. Ending a species feels kind of bad, even if the last remaining member of that species expressly wants you dead and has seemingly done some terrible things off-screen in the name of vengeance.

...I just got why it's called revengeance now. We're doing vengeance for the vengeance that already happened.

Clever~!

[spring helm]

did the brimstone crags have water

like large bodies of it

is that what the pinkish liquid in the biome is

[devout grotto]

🤝

[elder ruin]

I know they at least polluted the water since that's how the sulphuric sea exists.

[lusty grove]

Its called revengeance because its mgrs name im pretty sure

[devout grotto]

👀‼️

[spring helm]

yeahay! somebody actually read it

[elder ruin]

I mean, yeah, I'd thought it was just a reference too, but it's more fitting than I thought now.

[devout grotto]

🩵

[warm gull]

plinkus

[elder ruin]

I did too! I just wasn't sure what to comment. (Normally I'd do a reaction emoji, but those are off in this channel) It's a good piece of writing though!

[devout grotto]

👆🏼

[spring helm]

thanks

i ripped the sword bit from a braelor (and statis) vs yharim thing i wrote

[warm gull]

I also read it

[spring helm]

daiquiri

not lore but why is fabol's status "6 million is a number"

what does that mean

[calm patio]

azafure was like already polluted from azafure from the fumes then draedon did a lil trolling and made it worse

[calm patio]

how much calamity mod subscribers

[spring helm]

wait seriously?

that is a lot

[devout grotto]

I mean

[elder ruin]

🎊

[spring helm]

holy fuck

[calm patio]

.

[devout grotto]

Tbh I consider Calamity to be one of the most iconic mods atp

[spring helm]

true

[elder ruin]

It's basically a full DLC for Terraria, it deserves that iconic status.

[sinful adder]

I believe it is the highest quality mod of any game

Probably

...isn't 6 million like... 0.1% of the entire world?

Or almost that

[sinful adder]

You are not actually ending a species, because draconic offshoots are also dragons, minus the auric souls. They're what dragons should have always remained

[sinful adder]

The issue is that he is the only being alive other than Xeroc and Silva old enough to remember those times

[lone moss]

Then this begs the question - how Dragons got their Auric Souls in the first place?

[lusty grove]

And Silva is currently braindead

[sinful adder]

They killed the soul of terraria and broke it into pieces to fuse with their own

Or something like that

[empty dew]

I think that's about 0,01% or so

[sinful adder]

1 billion is 1,000,000,000
1 million is 1,000,000

Difference of 1/1000 means 0.1%

6 million and 8 billion are close enough to call it that, it's more accurately like 0.075%

[gaunt sluice]

world soul shatter

[gaunt sluice]

dragonfolly are farther away genetically than p i g f i s h apparently, or jared

[sinful adder]

Further from Yharon? Really?

Huh

[gaunt sluice]

yeah

its weird

[sinful adder]

Hmm

This makes no sense unless all dragon biology is determined entirely by magic elemental affinity instead of inheritance

Like a specific interpretation of Undertale monsters I saw once

[gaunt sluice]

Dragonfolly are a genetic offshoot

hold on nevermind

they're vaguely similar states of closeness

[real silo]

Dragonfolly is further away than *old duke

Duke fishy is still further than dragonfolly

[warm gull]

feeling rather sigmatic rn

[real silo]

how skibidous

[gaunt sluice]

yeah that guy ig

[untold oracle]

She lost 2 yharillion braincells

[night brook]

[gaunt sluice]

welcome

[night brook]

[gaunt sluice]

all of the ingame lore is in the pinned doc if you have several hours to read it

[night brook]

So, I'm using invuln to experience the lore of the Terminus (Because I wanted to read the lore and such of the game.) ... am I talking to Yharim? Like, -the- Yharim? The person destined to be this game's final boss???

[gaunt sluice]

Nope

You are talking to Xeroc my friend

[night brook]

Xeroc... I saw that name somewhere in the lore fragments

[gaunt sluice]

the First God

found out that Auric Soul had the consumable tag

[night brook]

[gaunt sluice]

where did all of these pokemon reactions come from

[night brook]

A bunch of emote servers I'm in, lmao

[gaunt sluice]

lol

[night brook]

ngl I'd be dead without my nitro

I emote so much to express myself, lol

[gaunt sluice]

what we got here is

[night brook]

I was legit surprised to see no :sirember:

So, if I'm correct

Yharim, after seeing how many gods of the world festered, and had grown either A: Evil, B: forgotten, or C: Corrupted, he went on a campaign to destroy gods... Am I at least partially right?

[gaunt sluice]

the gist of it is

yharim supposed to consume Yharon dragon soul

Yharim say no

Both tossed in lava, which hatched Yharon's egg or something

and then they became besties and went on a revenge campaign to solve genocide with genocide

[night brook]

Hah.

Yeah, I got the part where he was born in a civilization that came during, or just after, the great culling of the dragons.

[gaunt sluice]

I can answer any and all (20%) of your lore questions with utmost (5%) accuracy

[night brook]

Hah

So, who, specifically, did Yharim seek to kill? Was it all gods that he saw as corrupt/evil, along with any civilization that worshiepd them? Or was his hatred far less focused?

[gaunt sluice]

It was gods that ascended with an Auric soul and the people who worshipped/defended them ig

iirc

[night brook]

Gotcha. Anybody whose deific power came from the slaughter of his best friend's brethren.

[gaunt sluice]

basically

[night brook]

That's why he allied with Draedon. He wanted help slaughtering who fucking knows how many people

[gaunt sluice]

He needed weapons and advancement

Draedon needed protection and materials

[night brook]

And why he, at one point, allied with the Devourer of Gods. Because it was a literal god-eating weapon.

[gaunt sluice]

Yeah, what Yharim claims was the beginning of his fall

[night brook]

Which is clear. To ally with a creature whose entire life's purpose is to glutton on power... that's already a beginning to an end.

[gaunt sluice]

Well

DoG is kinda complex

[night brook]

Yeah, I got that he's an otherworldly being.

Literally from another dimension.

[gaunt sluice]

'devourer of gods' is a self imposed title

[night brook]

True, but as Yharim put it, "One that was backed up by his own power."

[gaunt sluice]

and he doesn't actually use any of the essence he consumes

[night brook]

Because he did, indeed, devour gods.

[gaunt sluice]

I think Yharim's morals were in the trash before DoG but whatever

[night brook]

That's fair, and likely.

My next quesiton Icouldn't piece together: Who destroyed Azafure and hell? Was it Yharim, or Calamitas?

[gaunt sluice]

It was Calamitas

and also the Brimstone Elemental

[warm gull]

calamitas did both

because she's a evil witch

[night brook]

In that case: What did Yharim do to Calamitas that made her literally become the Calamity to end the world?

[warm gull]

from hell

[hot valve]

Hello

[gaunt sluice]

Yharim aint do crap directly, just abused her magic

[warm gull]

an evil witch from hell who's fucked up and evil

[night brook]

Because in her lore blurb, Yharim regrets what he did to her and hwo poorly he treated her, and I swear it implied his actions are the reason she became evil.

Because the way he describes her in the blub, she sounds... innocent. Unable to control her powers, and scared of them, not evil.

[gaunt sluice]

She isn't exactly evil tho

[warm gull]

yeah she isn't really evil anymore

and she also isn't the calamity that destroyed the world

she destroyed azafure in a fight with the brimstone elemental by accident

[gaunt sluice]

Yeah she only evaporated one ocean

[warm gull]

and then destroyed ilmeris which is a specific location during the crusade

that's it

[night brook]

Gotcha

[warm gull]

she's probably burned a few cities as well

[night brook]

Which is fair.

She -was- defeated and her essence locked away, which would have happened before the great Calamity.

[warm gull]

what

there is no great calamity

and silva is the one who was locked away

[gaunt sluice]

The source of Cal's insane amounts of power is unclear at the moment but the leading theory is she took them from Brimstone elemental somehow

yeah there's no great calamity

[night brook]

I swear I saw something about a calamity literally being hte reaosn civilization no longer exists, to explain why the world's just... nature, sorta

idk I'm probably making shit up in my head. I do that sometimes, lmao

[gaunt sluice]

probably Yharim's crusade

he do be killing a lot of people idk

[warm gull]

yharim killed some guys

with his uhhh

his sword

[night brook]

And, from the sound of it, most, if not all 'civilized' people worshiped, or served, the gods created by Auric Souls.

So-

[gaunt sluice]

a significant amount but not all

[night brook]

Enough that humanity likely is scattered, and no -true- civilization exists anymore, I'd think.

[gaunt sluice]

that's probably fair'

[warm gull]

there are still civilizations

[gaunt sluice]

the only civilization we have confirmed afaik is Ilmeris atm

[warm gull]

most of society was destroyed by the worldwide war that was the crusade however

[night brook]

I remember reading that Silva was one of the gods that Yharim slayed, and that, since her body wouldn't completely 'die', he dumped it in the SUlfuric Seas (Which was apparently made by the burning of Azafure, not Draedon, lmao), and her body is the reason the Abyss exists.

[warm gull]

nah

the abyss existed before silva was tossed in

[gaunt sluice]

Abyss was there before, it was draedon plus Azafure that made sea sulphuric

[night brook]

h yeah

It's just that the life -in- the Abyss exist because of Silva.

[gaunt sluice]

Abys kinda just chiling

anyway gn

[warm gull]

good night person with a completely black pfp for some reason

[mighty zenith]

hello loreburgers

[warm gull]

goodbye aureus sympathizer

just kidding

hi

[mighty zenith]

[warm gull]

wtf

[night brook]

Aureus... It was literally just one of Draedon's robots that he sent into space to learn about shit, it got corrupted, and taken over by the Astral Infection... right?

[real silo]

Not into space

He sent it into astral biome

[night brook]

Wait seriously

It couldn't even handle a few enemies in the biome

What a loser