why is christian God considered omnipotent?if yes cant he just delete the concept of sin and erase Satan?
#lore-discussion
brisk ore
warm gull
sorry cheese
brisk ore
(christianity)lore-discussion
warm gull
we haven't even started actually powerscaling yet
split mortar
Like only time it is dubious is if the same fiction has used omnipotent to exaggerate before
warm gull
I remember when we were talking about biology and linguistics the other day
that was cool
warm gull
split mortar
Lore chat being on topic is a rarity
warm gull
peak convo
mighty zenith
brisk ore
if it is it derails to something different in like 5 minutes at max
warm gull
I literally just linked to that message because "providence" is the only word from it I can remember I am so fucking brainrotted
split mortar
warm gull
apparently some people had their cal plushes arrive with some of the little nubs on the amulets missing
split mortar
This chat is going to be so active right after SSO
split mortar
apparently some people had their cal plushes arrive with some of the little nubs...
I think popcorn did so they got a second
brisk ore
split mortar
split mortar
I think popcorn did so they got a second
For free
warm gull
I think popcorn did so they got a second
yeah saw it in sslcs
brisk ore
dumb question:is draedon an alien a robot or we didnt see how he really looks?
warm gull
computer
brisk ore
i think the real draedon is just somewhere in a bunker
warm gull
yeah draedon doesn't have one body
cloud ibex
Put the bunker in space and you’d be pretty much correct
split mortar
There ain’t really a real draedon
He is an ai so like any computer with sufficient storage will be a body for him
brisk ore
computer
who can create an ultra smart sentient AI that will create AI powered warmachines?
sinful adder
please explain? You get mods for free when you buy the game
split mortar
who can create an ultra smart sentient AI that will create AI powered warmachine...
Deadalus
warm gull
we don't know who created draedon
haughty sparrow
please explain? You get mods for free when you buy the game
ye mods r free
warm gull
he woke up next to a corpse iirc
mighty zenith
warm gull
so he might be a transferred consciousness
split mortar
we don't know who created draedon
Pretty sure a dev confirmed it as deadalus
sinful adder
so he might be a transferred consciousness
we know he isn't unless you have an unreasonable definition of consiousness
cloud ibex
who can create an ultra smart sentient AI that will create AI powered warmachine...
We don’t know
The earliest Draedon can remember is him waking up next to some corpse
brisk ore
mfw i get bullied every day for being a bad boss:
cloud ibex
The consciousness transfer thing is implied but he has no idea so we have no idea
sinful adder
what
draedon does not remember "being" the human, so it cannot be a consiousness transfer. You cannot have the same consiousness without memories
haughty sparrow
please explain? You get mods for free when you buy the game
Im going to buy terraria and i rather playing mod than vanilla i was playing cracked terraria without tmodloader so i gonna buy terraria
sinful adder
The consciousness transfer thing is implied but he has no idea so we have no ide...
it is not implied at all
mighty zenith
mfw i get bullied every day for being a bad boss:
unfairly bullied for being a good boss*
ftfy
warm gull
draedon does not remember "being" the human, so it cannot be a consiousness tran...
debatable what consciousness is. it's a philosophical concept.
sinful adder
it does not make any sense to call something consiousness transfer if memories aren't involved
cloud ibex
draedon does not remember "being" the human, so it cannot be a consiousness tran...
Well yeah if it was a transfer someone fucked up
But I read it as that’s what the corpse next to him was trying to do before they died
split mortar
Maybe the corpse died before transferring so draedon got nothing idfk
cloud ibex
Draedon got all the intellect but none of the personality or memories
warm gull
by most definitions in our world, you can't transfer consciousness without memories yes. but calamity has the concept of magic and souls etc. so we don't know what defines consciousness there. hell we don't know what defines it in the real world but we can't measure it being transferred and therefore can't claim that it's possible.
haughty sparrow
Draedon got all the intellect but none of the personality or memories
definetly draedon is ai
warm gull
Draedon got all the intellect but none of the personality or memories
catalytic
cloud ibex
definetly draedon is ai
Now he is but the question here is was he always
haughty sparrow
Now he is but the question here is was he always
hmmmm i think his deadass brain got into a immovable suit ig
brisk ore
hmmmm i think his deadass brain got into a immovable suit ig
draedon got springlocked
haughty sparrow
holy fuck bro got trapped but is just researchong everything i mean bro is NOT enjoying life
cloud ibex
Nah he’s chilling
haughty sparrow
hmmm
cloud ibex
All he wants is to research so that’s what he does
haughty sparrow
i hope hes researching meanin of life too
brisk ore
he is doing what he likes to do the most
cloud ibex
He throws his most powerful creations at you entirely because he thinks it would be interesting
haughty sparrow
and hes just chilling wstching us on the tv from the 1890s?
cloud ibex
He’s waiting to “fix” the sulphurous sea entirely because he thinks watching it develop further would be interesting
Until you fight the exos he does yes
haughty sparrow
wtf
cloud ibex
At that point he appears in person
haughty sparrow
i mean bro is researching everyrhing but not upgrade his tv!!!!
cloud ibex
Or rather, he appears in one of his persons
untold oracle
Draedon’s mission is to understand everything
haughty sparrow
Draedon’s mission is to understand _everything_
but not exactly nameless deitys face tho
untold oracle
ND is not canon!!!
pliant ruin
by the government
split mortar
Nameless deity not canon
pliant ruin
to sell wrath of the gods
untold oracle
Feed this user to the eels
split mortar
cloud ibex
If ND was canon I doubt Draedon would know about it
haughty sparrow
hmmm
cloud ibex
But if he did yeah he’d probably try to research Literally God
haughty sparrow
IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
cloud ibex
Probably wouldn’t get very far but he’d try
untold oracle
I bet he would be fascinated by the garden
haughty sparrow
lol
untold oracle
I wanna make a base there
brisk ore
I bet he would be fascinated by the garden
laced with power
untold oracle
Twisted garden is lame imo
haughty sparrow
guys imagine combining fargos soul+calamity+thorium...
split mortar
Too bad I haven’t found a way of getting npc’s there
Bug-net them with Fargo mutant
cloud ibex
You would have a lot of content
untold oracle
guys imagine combining fargos soul+calamity+thorium...
Why does my game keep crashing
split mortar
guys imagine combining fargos soul+calamity+thorium...
That’s called the dlc mod
haughty sparrow
Twisted garden is lame imo
but i like the Good-Apple
mighty zenith
too much even
haughty sparrow
That’s called the dlc mod
oh
split mortar
Except thorium ain’t effected yet
cloud ibex
Why does my game keep crashing
brisk ore
Twisted garden is lame imo
do you mean the song?
haughty sparrow
guys will my 4080 rtx graphic card enough for dlc mod
untold oracle
do you mean the song?
Yes
haughty sparrow
do you mean the song?
absolutely lame
split mortar
guys will my 4080 rtx graphic card enough for dlc mod
I think so
Prob overkill
Idk
I’m not a graphic card nerd
brisk ore
why do you think so?any specific reasons?
haughty sparrow
man just kidding i dont own 4080 rtx and i wish i could have lol
haughty sparrow
why do you think so?any specific reasons?
sarcasmica
brisk ore
oh
untold oracle
why do you think so?any specific reasons?
It’s just ass
real silo
Not a huge fan of screamo
untold oracle
Me neither
haughty sparrow
wus screamo
brisk ore
good question
real silo
The part with the voice saying "twisted garden laced with power"
haughty sparrow
ahh the "good qyestion" thingy
real silo
The growly voice basically
haughty sparrow
oke
untold oracle
And the autotune ass vocals
haughty sparrow
But some parts are deceny
yuh they keep that part
deft vessel
Ermm actually there is lore
brisk ore
there kinda is but i think you can agree it isnt really deep
brisk ore
i absolutely love this game's main concept.how you can destroy enemies piece by piece
and you can be destroyed like this too
untold oracle
Kill the garbage robots
brisk ore
like jump on one leg for half the game
deft vessel
The vr looks fire ngl
cloud ibex
untold oracle
Where’s the two piece
hollow plaza
The part with the voice saying "twisted garden laced with power"
porttrait of the scatter flowers
haughty sparrow
wuhsup
split mortar
Not the floor
sterile walrus
Hello guys
sterile walrus
Where did that even come from 
😂
woeful patio
untold oracle
I think I should backtrack a little bit and expand the doc from a little earlier part
Since I skipped a ton of stuff
And made a two-year time skip
spring helm
Holy crap one piece reference
hushed geyser
ionic harness
wheat walrus
I fell asleep
brazen coral
yeah so do I, he ain’t special
untold oracle
Is Yharim aware that the incineration wasn’t entirely successful?
Aka does he know that the sunken sea exists?
real silo
His goal was killing all the sentient people (all the god worshippers)
Which he succeeded
Those clams ain't worshipping nobody
untold oracle
So the incineration happened because Ilmeris was an enemy kingdom?
Because they worshipped gods
real silo
Yes
untold oracle
Ok
real silo
Yharim hates gods and everyone who follows them
untold oracle
I still had remnants of the old lore in my head
That they disagreed on smth
And Yharim commits fuck you and incinerates it
real silo
I don't even remember why sea kingdom exploded in old lore
cosmic zenith
GFB Xeroc becomes a drug dealer
untold oracle
It was just because they didn’t want to help Yharim or smth
A very bs reason
To commit such a large act
cosmic zenith
Called Mr. White
mighty zenith
GFB Xeroc becomes a drug dealer
spawning in crabulon after beating xeroc for that zaza of pantheons
cosmic zenith
On this matter, @warm gull
As I said, it's clearer to refer exclusively to the ""Auric Gods"" as Gods
The word "God" means a being who ascended by absorbing an Auric soul
There are beings who are seen as divine in demeanor, but for the sake of clarity, they're not considered Gods
Hope that's clear now
cosmic zenith
Pretty sure a dev confirmed it as deadalus
Not really
We had Daedalus in mind, but it's not a canon thing
If it were, we'd mention or at least hint at that name
untold oracle
It could be that the creator of draedon wanted to simply transfer his consciousness, but there was some failure and he lost his memories
Upon the transfer
scenic olive
Draedalus
cosmic zenith
Ilmeris is the name of tge sunken sea
More accurately, Ilmeris was a kingdom located in the Ilmeran Sea, before Calamitas incinerated the upper section of the sea and destroyed the kingdom
The Sunken Sea is what remained unscorched of the Ilmeran Sea, and it has (will have) some abandoned Ilmerian structures
cosmic zenith
Is Yharim aware that the incineration wasn’t entirely successful?
Almost certainly
And it's not a problem
untold oracle
I mean we already met one
untold oracle
Amidias 
real silo
We will meet tyrian in some random water cave and find out that he took up music as his new passion
untold oracle
Amidias rework: he’s dead
mighty zenith
We will meet tyrian in some random water cave and find out that he took up music...
tyrian is markiplier?
wheat walrus
markiplier was calamity lore foreshadowing
spring helm
“Hello everybody my name is Tyrian and welcome back to Five Nights at Yharim’s”
untold oracle
“Hello everybody my name is Tyrian and welcome back to Five Nights at Yharim’s”
I think it would be 5 nights at Calamitas’ for Tyrian
5 nights and the sea is gone
How did amidias get into the giant clam
Is he stuoid??
indigo glade
Yes.
pliant ruin
How did amidias get into the giant clam
it was his bed we woke him up
it was really rude in our part actually
pliant ruin
no not really evil just sort of rude
like you didn't have to wake him up like that godamn
let the guy have his beauty rest
untold oracle
let the guy have his beauty rest
Giant clam being a bed might be my new headcanon now lmao
The defence mechanisms only make sense
He’s the king after all
mighty zenith
No we're evil
shur up
untold oracle
It’s up to YOU if you’re evil or no!
pliant ruin
I'm not :(
sudden ruin
innocent cheese
scenic olive
We are all evil.
slate grail
It’s up to YOU if you’re evil or no!
i wanna follow in yharims footsteps bro
dusk laurel
then you shall perish.
untold oracle
Send this user to the eels
cloud ibex
i wanna follow in yharims footsteps bro
well by the time you get to him you've got good progress on that
only two gods left and they're the only ones you probably can't beat no matter how hard you try
slate grail
only two gods left and they're the only ones you probably can't beat no matter h...
we've already killed 3 gods why not add 2 more
cloud ibex
cause one of them is practically immortal and the other one is too far above you for you to kill
i mean you could try to kill silva too but you would have to kill Every Single Living Thing In The World Including Yourself
slate grail
cause one of them is practically immortal and the other one is too far above you...
i know xeroc would be omnipotent but what about the distortion god
cloud ibex
noxus isn't a god
and xeroc is far from omnipotent
just the most powerful being we know of
slate grail
i wouldnt really call xeroc omni potent ig but yeah
cloud ibex
but yeah chances are you will get to kill noxus (assuming the devs get that far)
sleek halo
i mean you *could* try to kill silva too but you would have to kill Every Single...
well
that’s not rly confirmed
killing silva could be a lot simpler, but figuring it out is probably just as difficult
pliant ruin
Idn't it
tall delta
I dont think killing all nature is something simple
pliant ruin
Literally confirmed th9
untold oracle
Did cheese get a stroke
spare pier
An Elemental only dies if her Domain does not exist anymore
pliant ruin
Ni in just in bec and sleepu
spare pier
And Silva, well
Happens to be the hardest one
It's easier to just destroy the planet outright than trying to kill Silva
untold oracle
Even harder if they constantly expand their domain
They utilize calamitous techniques to achieve their goals
pliant ruin
Silva sort of does that by virtue of
Yknow
Organisms reproducing
She's basically just immortal
languid badge
An Elemental only dies if her Domain does not exist anymore
what if we killed them like really hard though
like 3 rounds through the vat of acid levels of killed
sleek halo
It's easier to just destroy the planet outright than trying to kill Silva
Unless you’re like
Draedon
Draedon probably has the easiest time killing Silva
sleek halo
he’d fuckin automate the process and she’s cooked
spare pier
what if we killed them like *really* hard though
like 3 rounds through the vat ...
They just form elsewhere 
pliant ruin
I don't think draedon is
spare pier
Granted
sleek halo
and what’s she gonna do
spare pier
I think the hardest to kill is Brimmy
pliant ruin
That "powerful"
sleek halo
fight a new variation of exo mechs 
indigo glade
It's easier to just destroy the planet outright than trying to kill Silva
I am going to burn every plant ever.
sleek halo
That "powerful"
I mean
untold oracle
I think the hardest to kill is Brimmy
How so?
spare pier
I think the hardest to kill is Brimmy
Brimstone Elemental is not just fire
sleek halo
You don’t need to really be
languid badge
its hard to kill the concept of fire, I imagine
sleek halo
that powerful
pliant ruin
Like his mechs r insane but i don't think theyre in the level of Kill Every Thing
sleek halo
Like his mechs r insane but i don't think theyre in the level of Kill Every Thin...
he literally made a plague
spare pier
The core of the planet
sleek halo
that kills life
spare pier
Or just heat in general
indigo glade
Lightning strikes can cause fire. Now I am going to ship Brimstone Elemental and Cloud Elemental.
languid badge
are the elementals capable of interplanetary travel
sleek halo
pliant ruin
The plague that only took over a single biome, partially, in a long span of time
spare pier
Or just heat in general
So, basically
spare pier
To kill Brimmy you'd have to get rid of the core of the planet and the sun
pliant ruin
Like draedon is nowhere near being able to kill every living being on earth
indigo glade
Wasn’t the plague only recently
It is older than atleast a year.
sleek halo
Like draedon is *nowhere* near being able to kill every living being on earth
I mean the dude hasn’t tried to
spare pier
Silva? Glassing the surface of the planet is enough
spare pier
Brimmy? Yeah, it's easier to just explode the planet entirely
sleek halo
and more than enough time
pliant ruin
every living being
pliant ruin
That includes
spare pier
Xeroc
spare pier
No
sleek halo
he could probably find a way to harvest primordial light
indigo glade
Give Xeroc a few centuries too and they will also be stronger.
tall delta
give draedon a few centuries
xeroc can grow stronger too
spare pier
You can give him as much time as you want, Draedon would never be able to reach Xeroc's level
indigo glade
I doubt Xeroc has reached their peak.
pliant ruin
Microrganisms
Things that live in incredibly obscure hard to reach enviroments
Literally the Cells in Your Body
Like
spare pier
I doubt Xeroc has reached their peak.
By all means, Xeroc's peak is the universe's peak
If Xeroc reaches his strongest state possible
pliant ruin
People dont understand how overwhelmingly nigh impossible killing All life is
spare pier
This is as strong as someone can get in the Calamity universe
sleek halo
You can give him as much time as you want, Draedon would never be able to reach ...
I mean he really only needs to find a way to
counter primordial light
indigo glade
By all means, Xeroc's peak is the universe's peak
@wheat walrus Xeroc is Universal confirmed!!!!!!!!!
sleek halo
not have something actually overpower xeroc
spare pier
Do you really think Xeroc's only trick is Primordial Light?
high halo
I wonder how pissed off the dryad would be if you killed her goddess
sleek halo
It’s his main one
spare pier
Ok, still not his only one
pliant ruin
I wonder how pissed off the dryad would be if you killed her goddess
She'd be dead
tall delta
cant he like control shadows too
spare pier
And it's not like taking away Xeroc's Primordial Light suddenly makes him weak
pliant ruin
:hdflr
indigo glade
And it's not like taking away Xeroc's Primordial Light suddenly makes him weak
Can Xeroc throw hands?
tall delta
probably
spare pier
No, it just makes him capable of not blasting you instantly
sleek halo
And it's not like taking away Xeroc's Primordial Light suddenly makes him weak
I mean obviously yeah
I kinda imagine he’s around Yharim in actual
physical strength
if not a bit above
wheat walrus
And it's not like taking away Xeroc's Primordial Light suddenly makes him weak
Punches you several times
indigo glade
Xeroc Punch.
spare pier
if not a bit above
Nah
spare pier
Xeroc would benchpress Yharim
pliant ruin
Love draedon but at times i feel like alot of people overestimate him
spare pier
Like, I'm not sure you can fathom how powerful Xeroc is
wheat walrus
Like, I'm not sure you can fathom how powerful Xeroc is
Xerocis
spare pier
Shut
wheat walrus
But yea
sleek halo
Yharim is STILL training.
true
wheat walrus
With a mere fraction of his power he recreated every boss we fought and stronger
sleek halo
Love draedon but at times i feel like *alot* of people overestimate him
I feel like people underestimate what
Infinite energy means
wheat walrus
That's powerful iirc
sleek halo
there is little to no limits with what you can do
with the ability to power any project
spare pier
Like, I'm not sure you can fathom how powerful Xeroc is
Between Calamitas and Yharim, there is already a fairly big power gap
pliant ruin
Anyways eepy time
spare pier
Between Yharim and Xeroc?
sleek halo
with the ability to power any project
with a source of energy you can make
indigo glade
Infinite energy does not mean infinite output or infinite storage.
wheat walrus
Anyways eepy time
Bye
spare pier
I don't think I can put into words how big their power gap is
wheat walrus
Xeroc oneshots Yharim ig
sleek halo
probably not
tall delta
one xerocillion
spare pier
There is a reason I went to the lengths I did to justify Calamari killing Xeroc
spare pier
Xeroc oneshots Yharim ig
Ok not that big
wheat walrus
Alr
sleek halo
I still imagine them physically relative at least
obviously all the other shit would put a gulf of distance between them
sleek halo
Infinite energy does not mean infinite output or infinite storage.
that’s fair
wheat walrus
I think Shen Gaoren monster hunter solos Xeroc, Shen Gaoren is literally Capital G God
:3
spare pier
Draedon can power things for an endless amount of time
Not power an endless amount of things
An Exo Prism wouldn't allow him to make a death star or anything, the output is not high enough
sleek halo
well.. technically isn’t there not really a limit to how much he can power
considering he can grow it
and then make it
untold oracle
So was the plague outbreak all along in the jungle (after Yharim freed pbg) but we get it post-golem due to gameplay reasons?
spare pier
It's complicated
wheat walrus
An Exo Prism wouldn't allow him to make a death star or anything, the output is ...
Just wait a killillion years
sleek halo
like his supply is
spare pier
We're still deciding what to do with the Plague's release
wheat walrus
Ez
spare pier
It is limited by time
untold oracle
An Exo Prism wouldn't allow him to make a death star or anything, the output is ...
How about many exo prisms?
sleek halo
When you can grow the supply yourself
spare pier
And growing an Exo Prism is not a trivial task either
tall delta
Golem was clearly made by draedon and was storaging the plague inside him
sleek halo
so true
spare pier
Also like, you'd need so many fucking Exo Prisms to make a planet cracker or something that
No
sleek halo
And growing an Exo Prism is not a trivial task either
but also not too difficult of a task that he sees fit to harvest the sunken sea short term
spare pier
He's not pulling that off
untold oracle
And growing an Exo Prism is not a trivial task either
I don’t believe it, you can get 30 shards of it from a single fight
Dude has an infinite supply
untold oracle
Codebreaker summoning draedon is canon right?
spare pier
Codebreaker summoning draedon is canon right?
Yeah
But refights aren't
Because he's not making 500 trillion Exo Mechs
sleek halo
Draedon is really just limited by
finite resources
cosmolite, terraria’s resources, and the surrounding planets
untold oracle
Just wait until he gets to the moon
sleek halo
and he still needs find out a way to make sure he can fully counteract astral infection
before ever doing space travel
cloud ibex
I think Shen Gaoren monster hunter solos Xeroc, Shen Gaoren is literally Capital...
is that the big fucker crab
sleek halo
before ever doing space travel
or well long term space travel
because that’s a pretty big risk
cosmic zenith
Will we meet any Ilmeran survivors?
Only Amidias (and Cnidrion, if you count it)
sleek halo
and loss of progress
sleek halo
Only Amidias (and Cnidrion, if you count it)
desert scourge
wheat walrus
Draedon somehow existing after 10²⁰² years after all lights in the universe but the exo-prisms has extinguished
sleek halo
being left out
untold oracle
Fuck you cnidrion!!!!!!
sleek halo
is criminal..
wheat walrus
is that the big fucker crab
Long legs crab yes
indigo glade
desert scourge
Desert Scourge is a wild creature
Cnidrions were domesticated animals
They were the horses of Ilmeris
sleek halo
yeah but like
cloud ibex
draedon could probably figure out how to create artificial stars given enough time
sleek halo
schourg
cloud ibex
i wouldn't put it past him
untold oracle
Cnidrions were domesticated animals
Was phasing through blocks a part of their domesticating programme?
indigo glade
Was phasing through blocks a part of their domesticating programme? <:XD:9361066...
Yes.
cloud ibex
ok i'm not gonna lie i did completely forget that stars in cal are different
i was thinking of creating an artificial actual star
sleek halo
Because he's not making 500 trillion Exo Mechs
a v2 of the exo mechs would probably be brutally tough to fight
cloud ibex
like the ones from in real life
untold oracle
a v2 of the exo mechs would probably be brutally tough to fight
V2? As in the hit game ultrakill?
sleek halo
banned
cosmic zenith
desert scourge
Not part of the civilization
untold oracle
real silo
Will cnidrion have dialogue
real silo
like the stag from HK
indigo glade
Weren't Sand Sharks also used by Ilmeris?
sleek halo
a v2 of the exo mechs would probably be brutally tough to fight
a lot of the exploitable weaknesses would be
fixed
devout grotto
Man I can't wait for more Ilmeris lore
sleek halo
same :3
cosmic zenith
Will cnidrion have dialogue
He'll say "Invading my home? I'm the seahorse who'll end your scrutiny" when the fight starts
indigo glade
Man I can't wait for more Ilmeris lore
Next update.
sleek halo
He'll say "Invading my home? I'm the seahorse who'll end your scrutiny" when the...
So awesome…
devout grotto
🙏🏼
untold oracle
a lot of the exploitable weaknesses would be
Thanatos can deathray you from a close range
real silo
He'll say "Invading my home? I'm the seahorse who'll end your scrutiny" when the...
You've cni'd your last ria
(because ia is the plural of ium/ion)
untold oracle
He'll say "Invading my home? I'm the seahorse who'll end your scrutiny" when the...
Initiate 14 second boss theme
sleek halo
I wonder how much life is gonna suck for Yharon
when he comes back
Like Yharim is dead
indigo glade
I wonder how much life is gonna suck for Yharon
Good.
real silo
He'll be dealing with centuries of getting spawncamped by draedon
real silo
yharon give me your auric soul I need to make miracle mechs
sleek halo
well that probably wouldn’t work
indigo glade
The consequence of Yharon's actions will finally catch up to him when he rebirths.
untold oracle
Maybe Yharon could try to hang around with the terrarian if they are not positive on gods
sleek halo
The consequence of Yharon's actions will finally catch up to him when he rebirth...
Maybe
I don’t really imagine anyone other than Draedon
is gonna want to capture him
untold oracle
I the great Draedon will capture an auric dragon!
indigo glade
I hope Draedon turns Yharon into a zoo exhibit.
sleek halo
I mean Yharon is fucked up but like
real silo
well that probably wouldn’t work
Why not
cloud ibex
imagine yharon being reborn after a decade, coming back to the rest of the world and draedon IMMEDIATELY being there to go "oh hey you're back can i do some blood tests real quick i promise it's just a blood test this time"
sleek halo
imagine yharon being reborn after a decade, coming back to the rest of the world...
so true
untold oracle
I assume the upper part of Ilmeran sea was much more open and less caverny than the outskirts we get to explore
untold oracle
Must be boring
tall delta
earned tbh
untold oracle
At one point, Yharon simply stopped thinking
tall delta
he'll pay for his evil crimes
sleek halo
he'll pay for his evil crimes
I believe he uh
dusk laurel
yharon deserves it sorta
sleek halo
minda did
sleek halo
yharon deserves it sorta
i mean yeah
untold oracle
Who will read his bedtime story??
sleek halo
Even his relatives of the auric dragons thst are the closest to him
dusk laurel
but he will be alone
male loneliness epidemic
dusk laurel
what is he gonna do?
untold oracle
Follies?
dusk laurel
talk to a folly?
sleek halo
Follies aren’t really
gaunt sluice
Yharon is vewy vewy lonely
dusk laurel
a fishron?
sleek halo
close in terms of
genetics
like Primordial Wyrm and Old Duke are at least very closely related to the auric dragons
spare pier
Y'know I wonder if somewhere I can fit the story of Yharim and Yharon taking down the strongest God in Terraria
I do feel like there was one specific God everyone could look at and say
sleek halo
that is something I wonder
spare pier
"This guy is the strongest of them all"
gaunt sluice
"This guy is the strongest of them all"
is that not Xeroc
sleek halo
but #2 is not known
spare pier
Not Xeroc
untold oracle
I think not a lot of ppl would know of Xeroc tho
spare pier
The second strongest one
tall delta
~~is that not Xeroc~~
In terraria
split mortar
Xeroc is probably relatively unknown due to doing fuck all to my knowledge
untold oracle
They just look at their balance every month and see ”Xeroc tax” but that’s all
split mortar
Also hello chat
spare pier
~~Xeroc is probably relatively unknown due to doing fuck all to my knowledge~~
All I'm saying is
untold oracle
Hallo
split mortar
If Draedon doesn't know
Didn’t remember that part
sleek halo
Fucking no one does
I assume
dusk laurel
draedon doesn't knwo xeroc
spare pier
Aside from VERY SPECIFIC PEOPLE
split mortar
But yeah amazing point there
untold oracle
Oh yeah btw are there more than 2 docs about calamari
sleek halo
also obviously Primordial Wyrm
spare pier
Like, I don't think even Provi or Otonilou know about Xeroc
untold oracle
There’s the first one and the yharim one
sleek halo
also obviously Primordial Wyrm
Bro hates the man
spare pier
I have to rewrite Calamari vs Yharim one day
gaunt sluice
Like, I don't think even Provi or Otonilou know about Xeroc
Oh yeah, where is Provi exactly on the power scaling
untold oracle
I have to rewrite Calamari vs Yharim one day
I in fact finished reading that today lol
split mortar
Probably Top 10, if I had to pick a random ass number
Makes sense
sleek halo
Oh yeah, where is Provi exactly on the power scaling
Somewhere between Slime God and Calamitas
spare pier
Like
spring helm
Wait if they don’t know about Xeroc how did they know about the ascension ritual
split mortar
A corpse being right ahead of her
sleek halo
Probably Top 10, if I had to pick a random ass number
like of current times
yeah probably
all time
real silo
I do feel like there was one specific God everyone could look at and say
Is it silva or ravager
sleek halo
a lot lower
spare pier
In terms of every God we know about, I think the order of strongest to weakest it's
split mortar
Wait if they don’t know about Xeroc how did they know about the ascension ritual
Who said he was the only one, he had the perfect one which may be much more unknown
tall delta
where would xeroc fight take place in(If it will ever happen )
real silo
Gonna assume it's silva
sleek halo
like probably 20ish at best
untold oracle
Wait if they don’t know about Xeroc how did they know about the ascension ritual
I think they meant that the newer generations don’t know abt him
spare pier
1 - Xeroc
2 - Silva
3 - Providence
4 - God of Sacrifices
5 - Tyrian
6 - Otonilou
7 - Slime God
real silo
Where does god of blood fit into this
untold oracle
real silo
I know it exists I can feel it in my bones
spare pier
God of Blood is a long story
spring helm
1 - Xeroc
2 - Silva
3 - Providence
4 - God of Sacrifices
5 - Tyrian
6 - Otonilou...
SLIME GOD TOP 7 THAT’S WHY IT’S THE GOAT
gaunt sluice
The slimes of the godly powerscale is like second to last phm boss
split mortar
Uhhh, between sacrifices and providence imo
real silo
Also why is GoS lower than provi....
sleek halo
Idek what the God of Blood is
sleek halo
Also why is GoS lower than provi....
Ravager is probably inherently stronger
untold oracle
Also why is GoS lower than provi....
I think ravager is more powerful than gos
sleek halo
it was literally brought back by sacrifice
split mortar
Also why is GoS lower than provi....
Being better at fighting while not as good at destruction is a thing
sleek halo
Just mindless
real silo
Why is some fucka's corpse stronger than his living body
sleek halo
it was literally brought back *by sacrifice*
.
spare pier
Wouldn't you like to know
sleek halo
Like that’s his whole thing
untold oracle
Because the corpse was supercharged with human sacrifice
split mortar
Because lots were sacrificed to bring it back
spare pier
All I'm gonna say is
spring helm
Why is some fucka's corpse stronger than his living body
A zombified me would probably kick my ass
spare pier
There is a reason Chalice is Ravager's drop
real silo
Yeah I know the reason
spring helm
spare pier
Chalice of the Blood God
untold oracle
Chalice of blood god
sleek halo
been a while since in played
split mortar
Ain’t that a craft
indigo glade
There is a reason Chalice is Ravager's drop
You mean Blood Pact, right? And Bloodflare Core?
gaunt sluice
i mean to get the Chalice of the Blood God you have to beat DoG
sleek halo
Chalice of the Blood God
There’s no way a god sacrificed themselves
real silo
There is a reason Chalice is Ravager's drop
This pretty much confirms my theory from ages ago
Heheheha
split mortar
Either way, makes me think ravager is two gods in one not just sacrifices
spare pier
What was it?
sleek halo
There’s no way a god sacrificed themselves
or was sacrificed
real silo
What was it?
Dms?
spare pier
Why DMs?
real silo
I want to tell people too
gaunt sluice
God of sacrifices like 'blood for the blood god' and frickin died
spring helm
What do you mean DM’s tell us
tall delta
ravagers is god of blood too👻
sleek halo
I mean honestly
split mortar
Ravager a fusion of two gods?
sleek halo
a god worshipping another god
spare pier
I want to tell people too
I mean, just go, I won't tell you if you're right or not
sleek halo
isn’t the most unrealistic thing
real silo
Theory was ravager had two auric souls
untold oracle
Bro was feasting
tall delta
i mean probably
sleek halo
I kinda imagine ravager is a big combination of souls
real silo
Debating whether to say where I got that idea
split mortar
Doesn’t that cause some fuckups?
Wait ravager is fucked up
gaunt sluice
It occurs to me that it's kinda weird Ravager gets buffer after Provi
sleek halo
including the original GoS
real silo
I kinda imagine ravager is a big combination of souls
Omg just like polterghast
split mortar
It occurs to me that it's kinda weird Ravager gets buffer after Provi
They’re making ravager post providence in general
In the future
sleek halo
Omg just like polterghast
Yea
spring helm
Someone sacrificed the dragon of human anatomy to the god of sacrifices
gaunt sluice
They’re making ravager post providence in general
Alright great
real silo
You know old lore rav and both old and new polter would be best buds
spare pier
So true
real silo
One is a mindless soulless corpse and the other is literally all soul
sleek halo
real af
split mortar
Yeah
indigo glade
Yes.
gaunt sluice
Okay
split mortar
Auric dragons yea
spare pier
Yeah, check Old Duke's Bestiary
untold oracle
Yo were there like, a limited number of dragons
Nah there were infinite
sleek halo
I mean, just go, I won't tell you if you're right or not <:HDfailure:48226367815...
Watch GoB be some relative of GoS
indigo glade
gob
sleek halo
Ok so like is GoB like an actual confirmed thing tho
like is it another god to add to the list
indigo glade
Ok so like is GoB like an actual confirmed thing tho
Chalice of the Blood God
gaunt sluice
Why is Chalice post DoG though
sleek halo
Ok but titles do also exist
indigo glade
It was renamed after the lore rewrite and specifically capitalised.
untold oracle
Why is Chalice post DoG though
Unfinished stuff
gaunt sluice
Alr
split mortar
It wouldn’t mess any lore up so yeah blood god would be fine imo
real silo
Clearly they sacrificed A Blood God to bring back Sac god
And their auric souls fused or some shit
spring helm
Crazy how a bunch of mortals were able to sacrifice a god
sleek halo
Crazy how a bunch of mortals were able to sacrifice a god
I mean
They also both could’ve died
real silo
As in he had both auric souls before dying
sleek halo
Yharim & Yharon tag team would be pretty devastating even for two gods
tall delta
doesnt two auric souls make you go crazy
spring helm
As in he had both auric souls before dying
Hey, how come your mom lets you have two auric souls?
real silo
I kil two dragon with my own bare hands I deserve that shit
sleek halo
at doing it’s job
spring helm
I kil two dragon with my own bare hands I deserve that shit
Your ass ain’t Braelor you’re not that guy
real silo
The original convo was about the strongest god known to the public and it seems I was right that it was silva
gaunt sluice
Hey, how come your mom lets you have two auric souls?
Mom said it's my turn with the souls
sleek halo
The original convo was about the strongest god known to the public and it seems ...
well that’s just the ones who were in story
That we know of
spring helm
The original convo was about the strongest god known to the public and it seems ...
Still lost to Yharim whomp whomp
real silo
Where would Braelor place overall
Slightly lower than yharim apparently
sleek halo
wel
Well now it’d be a
pretty decent chunk
below yharim
Considering his upgrades and training
I’d probably place Braelor around the tier of exo mechs and scal
but above Yharon
real silo
well that’s just the ones who were in story
It'd be kinda weird to introduce a random god who's stronger than the only other mf in existence to have a perfect ascension
sleek halo
It'd be kinda weird to introduce a random god who's stronger than the only other...
I mean Silva doesn’t really seem like
the fighting type
overall
real silo
Silva has Influence
spring helm
Not to mention Silva was an elemental before too so she wasn’t even mortal before she ascended
real silo
A lot of people probably know her
split mortar
She seems more like a buffer
sleek halo
I really do imagine the fight between Yharim and Silva was hard
but moreso cause silva is really
really
really
tough to put down
for any significant amount of time
gaunt sluice
Heck she still ain't dead
spring helm
I imagine Yharim had to keep coming back to kill her before he finally decided to”fuck it, into the abyss you go”
real silo
I can see them like adding a Moon God or some shit and making that dude stronger than silva but like that's weird
spring helm
Fovos finted
real silo
You already have a super strong girl who's well known across the world
Why bother making another random dude and writing a story about yharim killing him
split mortar
Plus the moon ain’t earthly so I doubt a god can get it as a domain
split mortar
Fair
real silo
And primordial light is special specifically because it's not from the planet
gaunt sluice
It's Ye Olde light
tall delta
weaker than slime god
untold oracle
Slime god should quit balancing the world hyperfixation and become goozma
tall delta
real
gaunt sluice
World balance, make 2 different corrupt slims, very logic
split mortar
Do we know why hallowed paladin attacked slime god or is just “it did”
tall delta
It didnt attack sg
split mortar
World balance, make 2 different corrupt slims, very logic
Well yeah, slime god itself was the pure guy
tall delta
afaik
gaunt sluice
Wait
split mortar
It didnt attack sg
It did trap and potentially immobilised slime god
real silo
Slime god accidentally crystallized the paladin while he was inside it so he got stuck
gaunt sluice
No I mean like as a whole it was weaker previously
tall delta
It did trap and potentially immobilised slime god
sg probably tried to do that thing of controling the paladins
gone wrong
untold oracle
Don’t drink the hallow paladin potion at 3 am (gone wrong) (got stuck)
gaunt sluice
Slime god is weaker then a evil biome paladin
It ain’t a fighter
If it wants balance or whatever why does it make evil biome paladins
gaunt sluice
He ain't looking very pure
untold oracle
How would the crimulan paladin taste like
mighty zenith
He ain't looking very pure
they're not meant to be pure
slime god collects evil biome essence with them
gaunt sluice
they're not meant to be pure
i mean SG himself
split mortar
split mortar
We got some blood god lore
Nice
gaunt sluice
i meant why are there two sets of slimes, the middle ones and the top right ones
indigo glade
i meant why are there two sets of slimes, the middle ones and the top right ones
Taken by core versions.
hot valve
One of ravager’s current big motto’s is the 2 skulls
indigo glade
Currently when the core takes over one of them, it just makes them rainbow.
hot valve
Having this be symbolic of 2 souls would make sense
gaunt sluice
Currently when the core takes over one of them, it just makes them rainbow.
thats a thing
gaunt sluice
I haven't seen that yet
indigo glade
It happens, it is just hard to notice.
gaunt sluice
yea I was probably more focused on living
gaunt sluice
o h
that]
i thought it was just like 'ignore this guy for a second he bouta turn invis'
cosmic zenith
for any significant amount of time
Silva healing her wounds like Akaza Demon Slayer real
hot valve
Btw was reading up about domains
If brimmy’s is heat…I feel like that would just be immortal, as long as brimmy’s domain doesn’t reach absolute 0?
Like is heat being counted as movement of molecules or
Is there a minimum temp
gaunt sluice
If brimmy’s is heat…I feel like that would just be immortal, as long as brimmy’s...
brimmy isn't a god
hot valve
Domain of elemental
gaunt sluice
she's a brimstone elemental
hot valve
As in like their domain as an elemental
gaunt sluice
her domain is brimstone
untold oracle
Oh my this doc is getting large
Decided to expand on a big time skip, and a trip to the sunken sea alone took 1000+ words, there’s also like 6 bosses and 4 more lab trips I gotta write before I continue on the latest point 
gaunt sluice
idk i don't know a ton about the elementals but brimmy being heat specifically wouldn't make much sense
cosmic zenith
Clearly the moon god is kokushibou
Zeratros gets clapped by Moon Breathing, Fifth Form - 1037, scroll portrait
gaunt sluice
Zeratros gets clapped by Moon Breathing, Fifth Form - 1037, scroll portrait
is calamitas a cat person (likes cats)
untold oracle
500th time this question is asked
indigo glade
is calamitas a cat person (likes cats)
Yes.
gaunt sluice
includes
gaunt sluice
500th time this question is asked
im gathering confirmation shhhh
but brim domain is including things that are hot is what that means
cosmic zenith
is calamitas a cat person (likes cats)
She is a person
indigo glade
Mind blowing.
spare pier
Brimmy's domain being exclusively fire is just weird
It being heat just makes a lot more sense
Water, air, earth, heat
The four components required for life
Air not so much but you get it
untold oracle
She is a person
No she’s not, she’s a fictional character consisting of pixels and lines of code
untold oracle
Water, air, earth, heat
Well I mean fire is considered more like one of those traditional elements more so than heat
And also heat is a vague concept
spare pier
But the point isn't being a traditional element
It's being one of the main components for life to exist
untold oracle
If we look from that perspective, it makes a lot more sense
Tho how do you exactly define heat here
Is it like
Anything above absolute zero
spare pier
In Brimmy's case, things that are hot
And as the other Elementals show
In excess
So shit like fire, lava, and etc
split mortar
Probably not
Maybe other planets with life they exist aswell
untold oracle
So does an elemental die if you remove all water for example from earth but somewhere else there is
spare pier
For the sake of the story it does not matter
untold oracle
Yeah ik
spare pier
But yeah, it's tied to Terraria itself
If you want, you can just consider them Terraria's Elementals
untold oracle
Yeah but it’s weird how weak cloud is compared to brimmy or anahita
split mortar
Ain’t cloud like a fragment of the actual elemental, like their power split between plenty of bodies?
cosmic zenith
~~Air not so much but you get it~~
That moment when organic matter uses elements we get from air
Oxygen isn't necessary, but air, even if dissolved, is
gaunt sluice
I am a moron
gaunt sluice
I am fairly sure it's sarcasm
split mortar
Oh
warm gull
six hundred and fifty-four new messages in lore discussion
gaunt sluice
Nice
gaunt sluice
Also me having large amounts of ignorance
warm gull
Brimmy's domain being exclusively fire is just weird
this is so true
untold oracle
six hundred and fifty-four new messages in lore discussion
This time I think most of it actually were lore
warm gull
I HATE NARROW DOMAINS THAT APPLY TO SPECIFIC HUMAN CONCEPTS !!
gaunt sluice
Idk destiny might be valid
spare pier
Cause idk why oxygen is not needed
Life can exist without oxygen
How do you think life started on Earth? 
split mortar
Fair enough
gaunt sluice
Crap used arsenic in the beginning
split mortar
I forgot photosynthesising cells were prob the first
gaunt sluice
I forgot photosynthesising cells were prob the first
I mean modern photosynthesis still uses oxygen
split mortar
Doesn’t it make oxygen not use it?
split mortar
I was thinking of normal O2
gaunt sluice
Oh yeah then
The cells still require a significant amount of oxygen though, just in general
indigo glade
Correct. It is a compound consisting of oxygen.
gaunt sluice
That's carbon monoxide
That's carbon dioxide
indigo glade
Deadly poison, or slightly less deadly poison.
gaunt sluice
Ik but I'm just saying modern photosynthesis does require oxygen to function
spare pier
Yes, and it didn't start like that
gaunt sluice
Yeah
spare pier
Cells started by using chemicals left by thermal vents underwater
mighty zenith
loretastic
indigo glade
IRL Lore.
lone moss
@spare pier If Calamity was its own game, what would definitely be different in lore and gameplay?
spare pier
No fucking idea
split mortar
All the vanilla stuff wouldn’t be allowed due to copyright
So either replacements or they’re lost forever
indigo glade
<@498251962844839956> If Calamity was its own game, what would definitely be dif...
Probably not a lot, considering the lore was made in tandem of Vanilla gameplay existing.
i.e, underground houses exist because lots of civilisations were underground.
split mortar
Stuff wiuld be different due to copyright not letting them use the vanilla bosses
Could be entirely different lore wise
To relatively similiar
lone moss
All the vanilla stuff wouldn’t be allowed due to copyright
That's a given - a lot would need to be replaced.
Initial idea of a question was about Crossover content, but decided against it and instead asked the one you see above.
brisk ore
Stuff wiuld be different due to copyright not letting them use the vanilla bosse...
thats a pretty boring way of treating this question imo ngl
split mortar
Initial idea of a question was about Crossover content, but decided against it a...
Cross over content not really canon
So murasama and Deerclops and old ones army not canon
lone moss
Cross over content not really canon
So murasama and Deerclops and old ones army ...
I had a different kind of crossover content question in mind, more specifically - adding more crossover content through Calamity (if owners of a work that is getting crossed over with don't mind).
split mortar
Oh ok
subtle wharf
Calamity as its own game with some remixed vanilla content would be cool as hell
A lot of stuff like the post plantera moons and the martian stuff i cant see staying if that happened
But if relogic was okay with the general ideas and designs of things being in a calamity focused game that could be super sick
Restrictions with terraria as well like worldgen
devout grotto
i.e, underground houses exist because lots of civilisations were underground.
🤔
I really gotta consider underground civilizations for my stories hhhh
cosmic zenith
Cause idk why oxygen is not needed
Anaerobic lifeforms are a thing
split mortar
Oh ok
cosmic zenith
In fact, all the oxygen we have is thanks to organisms that didn't need oxygen to stay alive
dusk laurel
algae and cyanobacteria
iirc plants after these 2 made like less than 20% of all oxygen ever
these were truly beasts
algae is just a souped up cyanobacterium since it's an ancestor of plants and contains a modified version of the bacterium that it ate long ago
like how the mitochondria was originally just a bacterium
oblique sedge
Scal is stupid
Because if we able to break permafrost cage(cryogen) while being MUCH weaker at the moment than Yharim, how did she expect it to protect against Yharim?
mighty zenith
yharim didn't even know permafrost was in there
split mortar
It’s meant to hide perma
oblique sedge
oh
dusk laurel
yharim was weaker too
split mortar
Not keep him safe
dusk laurel
then now
pulsar trellis
Scal is stupid
Because if we able to break permafrost cage(cryogen) while being ...
yharim thought perma was straight up dead
mighty zenith
the intention was to make it look like one of permafrost's typical constructs
split mortar
yharim was weaker too
He was still post yharon level guy
indigo glade
Scal is stupid
Because if we able to break permafrost cage(cryogen) while being ...
It wasn't for protection, it was meant to hide that Permafrost was alive.
oblique sedge
yharim thought perma was straight up dead
i forgot about that part
dusk laurel
He was still post yharon level guy
trueg
mighty zenith
even if it just flew around the tundra, realistically nobody would attack it anyway
indigo glade
Remember that Yharim barely knows shit about magic.
dusk laurel
i forgot about that part
dementia moment
oblique sedge
dementia moment
😭
split mortar
Cryogen is prob only so strong cause it’s meant to fend off any natural threats or weak gods
oblique sedge
No
oblique sedge
Cryogen is prob only so strong cause it’s meant to fend off any natural threats ...
idk
split mortar
Oh hey mrrp
violet sparrow
Probably not a lot, considering the lore was made in tandem of Vanilla gameplay ...
no queen slime for one
who?
mighty zenith
oh hey [NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD]
dusk laurel
who's mrrp?
split mortar
Queen slime existed when the rewrite happened
dusk laurel
no queen slime for one
is this about old or rewritten lore
violet sparrow
no i mean that's one guarantee if the mod was turned into its own game
split mortar
Oh right