#lore-discussion

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pliant ruin
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statigel

indigo glade
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(Onyx Kinsmen members perhaps? They're both ninjas)

pliant ruin
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onyx kisn

spare pier
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I sure do wonder what's the ninja faction in Calamity

dusk laurel
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ontx kinma

patent cargo
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bone lee was a fallen ninja turtle obviously

dusk laurel
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die

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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what about the

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The Guys with Guns

spare pier
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Also I just think it's really funny to

pliant ruin
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what about those

split mortar
spare pier
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Make a silly joke into a semi-serious concept

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Like, you go in thinking

indigo glade
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He cool.

spare pier
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"Hehe silly Bruce Lee reference"

indigo glade
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Why isn't the shirtless version on imgur though?

spare pier
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And then you read the Bestiary and you're like

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"Holy shit what"

split mortar
dusk laurel
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huh

warm gull
spare pier
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Fairly obvious, no?

indigo glade
# split mortar The waht

I remember there being a version of Statis' concept art being shirtless, since the clothing was made afterwards.

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On a seperate layer.

split mortar
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Oh damn

spare pier
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Part of an elite military unit in their past lives.

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I SURE DO WONDER WHAT I'M TURNING THAT ELITE MILITARY UNIT INTO

warm gull
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I love how statis is all detailed etc. and then just has the stickman eyes 😭

pliant ruin
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okay yeah i sort of

dusk laurel
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no way skeletron mini

pliant ruin
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had a gut feeling that they'd be part of the yharmy

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but like

indigo glade
split mortar
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Not all were yharim guys though no?

spare pier
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You'll see

pliant ruin
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i mainly was just wondering why you'd have Prison Guards wielding Sniper Rifles

spare pier
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Why not? HDfailure

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Seems a little overkill

dusk laurel
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draedong has the tech

warm gull
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they have watch towers

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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Ok fair enough

warm gull
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etc.

pliant ruin
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I am not a prison loremaster

cloud ibex
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panopticon

cosmic zenith
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I'm glad I got the name Chrysadia, its earlier iterations were, uh... inferior

split mortar
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What were its other names

spare pier
cosmic zenith
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Also now I'm caught up, I see why the chat blew up

cosmic zenith
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I wish I could share what I was writing, but too bad!

spare pier
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Like

warm gull
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just share it anyways

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who's gonna stop you

split mortar
pliant ruin
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I mean assuming they're in a Prison they'd probably not be able to go on and about beating people up
Seal away their magic and take away their equipment or something

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But at the asme time the

cosmic zenith
# indigo glade I'm intrigued.

The original name for the sky people was "Alchryste" (have fun writing or pronouncing that lol)
The original name for the sky civilization was the Chrysseod Realm

split mortar
pliant ruin
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the skeletons literally have armor and magic and equipment

pliant ruin
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So i guess yharim just had a really impractical prison

cosmic zenith
indigo glade
spare pier
# spare pier Like

Even if you made so Yharim's prisoners in the Dungeon were only the people from the continent, and you assumed that he left 10% of the population of kingdoms alive, and then 5% of those were imprisoned, and then 1% of those people were exceptionally strong

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That's still like

split mortar
spare pier
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I'd say 50 people who could 1v1 a Godseeker Knight

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Actually, more like 20

pliant ruin
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Yeah but can't you just like
deprive them of all equipment and magic

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which

cosmic zenith
spare pier
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Not all

pliant ruin
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clearly yharim didn't do given all the skeletons are wearing Armor and Weapons and Magic Staffs

split mortar
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Is there a lore reason there’s the plantera level dungeon souls then the post ml dungeon souls or is it just not explained

warm gull
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why didn't yharim just kill the people is he stupid

pliant ruin
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So i think yharim just fucking sucks at running a prison

warm gull
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why imprison them

pliant ruin
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maybe those were like

split mortar
cosmic zenith
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Which is funny because damn we really can't keep Jesus out of Calamity and also because there weren't even Gods back then

pliant ruin
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people who followed gods which he decided to spare because he was like

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"its ok we can convert them to Good"

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and then he just never did it and left them to rot

spare pier
# spare pier Not all

Some magic is just inate to someone's body, or they can cast magic without a catalyst, or they are just fucking jacked

cosmic zenith
warm gull
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why would he spare the ones who were strong enough to 1v1 godseeker knights lol

pliant ruin
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yeah those should probably have died

indigo glade
# indigo glade You woke up the angry souls.

No, that is literally what happens.
"Phantom Spirit
The spirits within the Dungeon only vaguely recall their lives, and yet there is one thing each and all clearly remember, that drives them to chaos: the man responsible for locking them in these cursed walls, and his overwhelming power– power that they have been reminded of, due to one ever growing in strength roaming their halls."

spare pier
split mortar
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And then I assume moonlord annoys all the souls

warm gull
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how were they even able to subdue and capture people who were that strong without killing them

spare pier
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Any reason you'd keep a war prisoner alive is a reason those people were kept alive

pliant ruin
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i'm still thinking about how like every single skeleton in the dungeon is like well equipped and shit

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like

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all of them

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all of them have armor and most have weapons

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Why

split mortar
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Armory

pliant ruin
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yharim youre fucking stupid

dusk laurel
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prison guards

pliant ruin
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not that we didnt know that

split mortar
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Big ass armory

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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what do you mean armory they're in a Prison

spare pier
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Maybe

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But like, yes

indigo glade
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And the people that were hung upside down, were those also tortured? Because that is a real torture method.

pliant ruin
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if there was a armory in a prison that is even more concerning yharim what the fuck

spare pier
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Yharim did suck at running a prison HDfailure

pliant ruin
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why are you givigin your prisoners a fucking ARMORY

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you BUFFOON

split mortar
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Simple, they broke the door down

warm gull
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you keep a war prisoner alive as a hostage or as labor. hostages aren't very important in a war of genocide and you can't keep someone that strong subdued enough to be a laborer

dusk laurel
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just flood the dungeon if necessary clueless

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they'll al drown, right?

pliant ruin
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dude the dungeon is the greatest testament to yharim's stupidity it's not even storm weaver or plaguebringer goliath anymore what the fuck

indigo glade
split mortar
indigo glade
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The strongest and most powerful people also tend to be very close to their leaders.

warm gull
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information is the only thing that could make sense in this context, yeah

spare pier
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Also, there is another reason for heavy weaponry aside from escape attempts

warm gull
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also makes sense for the stronger individuals to hold more info

spare pier
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The Dungeon is the largest prison in the entire continent

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It's a really fucking big target

split mortar
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Would not be surprised if it’s the biggest in the world

pliant ruin
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Honestly at this point

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The dungeon is big as hell and there's like

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full on

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furniture

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made of bones in there

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so

warm gull
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why didn't the dungeon people just use the dungeon guardian are they tupid

pliant ruin
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i'm inclined to believe back when it wasn't essentially a undead hellfest

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it was probably like

spare pier
pliant ruin
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lowkey just a incredibly dystopian "civilization" in of itself

pliant ruin
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no it wasnt you're right

spare pier
pliant ruin
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why didnt they do that

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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they shouldve thrown the dungeon guardian at yharim

spare pier
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I have an explanation for that HDfailure

pliant ruin
indigo glade
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T'was a joke.

split mortar
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I wonder if there was anything stopping them from escaping the dungeon, like did dungeon guardian just throw them back in or something or was it that the curse just made them never find the exit

spare pier
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Do remember the Dungeon was also the base of operations for the Dragon Cult

pliant ruin
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like if you have this huge ass dungeon, bigger than some Cities even

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you know getting out isn't a option

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and theres like

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thousands of people in there

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at that point

warm gull
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dragon cult... dragon language... dragon wars....

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fus ro dah

spare pier
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And yeah, its size basically made so the guards were required to live there

pliant ruin
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you just accept it and live there and it'd slowly just turn into more or less a fucked up incredibly dystopian civilization

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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ok actually

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i changed my mind

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i can see the vision

spare pier
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Tl;dr the Dungeon is kind of a fucked up place HDfailure

pliant ruin
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the equipment that the

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the skeleton guys had

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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was probably shit that the prisoners made within the dungeon out of whtaever they could find

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like

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literally collecting any scrap they can get and that sort of stuff

warm gull
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I'm trapped in calmain

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last thing I remember I was running for the door

cosmic zenith
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I wanna add structures nothoughtsheadempty

warm gull
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I had to find the way back to the place I was before

dusk laurel
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or smth else

split mortar
cosmic zenith
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The Dungeon could have some outpost thingies, but I mean to the world

pliant ruin
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prisoners within the dungeons hunting down slimes as a source of nourishment

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and also probably eachother too lets be real

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i dont dounbt those mfers were cannibals

spare pier
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I mean, again I think the overkill is perfectly justified because the Dungeon is arguably one of the most important places to Yharim's Crusade, they needed really good security to not fall when an entire army decided to walk there

indigo glade
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Do you think factions were made? Would followers of Providence be treated like a certain type of person in real prisons?

spare pier
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It's not a matter of keeping things in, they needed things to stay out

split mortar
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I doubt a follower of providence would allow themselves to be alive in there

warm gull
spare pier
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I doubt a follower of Providence would be allowed to live HDfailure

split mortar
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Fair

dusk laurel
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provifail

split mortar
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Providence fitting into the girlfail accusations

warm gull
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providence is not a girlfailure 😭

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she killed a dragon and ascended to godhood

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that's like

indigo glade
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Do I need to post my proof again?

dusk laurel
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not a perfect ascension.

warm gull
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not girlfailure behavior

split mortar
pliant ruin
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providence is a girlboss

dusk laurel
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^

pliant ruin
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she has girlboss energy

indigo glade
warm gull
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providence gatekeeps and gaslights and girlbosses

indigo glade
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Defender is gatekeep.

pliant ruin
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i'm a expert on this subject she does not have girlfailure energy in the slightest

indigo glade
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And Healer is gaslight.

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Which means Providence is girlfailure.

split mortar
pliant ruin
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the commander commands the rest of the guardians not providence

dusk laurel
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:3

pliant ruin
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providence commands the commander

warm gull
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why do people like girlfailures so much I don't get it they're just losers

pliant ruin
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you're gonna tell me commanding the commander isn't girlboss behavior?

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they're entertaining and relatable

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and cute, also

split mortar
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Yes, they died

She failed to command them good enough for them to live

warm gull
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explode all girlfailures

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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provi is a thief

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confirmed!!!

indigo glade
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The healer was the healer, the defender was the tank, the commander was the commander.

spare pier
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Ok fuck you

indigo glade
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Clearly means Providence is the DPS.

spare pier
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Healer is the girlfailure

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I said it

split mortar
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Oh

indigo glade
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Damn.

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So who is the gatekeep?

split mortar
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Damn, argument shit down ruthlessly

split mortar
spare pier
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Providence - Gaslight
Commander - Girlboss
Defender - Gatekeep
Healer - Girlfailure

indigo glade
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Thank you.

dusk laurel
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knew ot

pliant ruin
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that's much more fitting

warm gull
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my idea for the slime god was that, a different hero fought the dragon of gluttony, and as they went to claim the soul in their weakened and bloodied state, the slime god took the opportunity to kill them and steal the soul

indigo glade
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I was right about 2/4

spare pier
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Provi isn't really Gaslight but it's the best one

indigo glade
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That is a 50% accuracy rate.

indigo glade
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: )

spare pier
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True!

warm gull
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healer being a failure is kinda stereotypical

split mortar
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She gaslights people to be nihilistic

split mortar
dusk laurel
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provilighting

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omg holy flames

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hdflr _ _

spare pier
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Healer was the only one that could ever fit Girlfailure anyways but that's how I always wanted to write her

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Like, I'm just gonna say it but for a while now I've been wanting to

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When we get to Profaned Biome

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Write a book that would be the Healer Guardian's diary

pliant ruin
indigo glade
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Did I ever tell this chat about the dream I had?

spare pier
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And you'd get to see Providence's story through her eyes

split mortar
indigo glade
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Eh, I'm saying it anyway.

dusk laurel
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more books

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i need

spare pier
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This diary is probably the thing I'm the most excited to write about in the entire Mod

pliant ruin
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reb if you make me feel genuine empathy for the omnicide rocks ill hit you with the object

spare pier
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Because, yeah

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It's basically the entire story of Providence

dusk laurel
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healer is blissfully ignoranant

indigo glade
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One day, I dreamed that Providence's drops and Divine Geode crafts had lore in them, like Sea Remains crafts, and it told Providence's story and some other stuff about her and her guardians, including why night time enrage happens.

split mortar
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Simple, she didn’t pay xeroc tax so she is weaker at day

spare pier
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And Providence's tale is the one thing I'm the most proud of writing in the entire Cal Lore

dusk laurel
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but this isn't the time

spare pier
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She and the Guardians are my babies

pliant ruin
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reb i'm gonna

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hit you

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with the object

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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don't you

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don't you DARE

spare pier
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:)

split mortar
indigo glade
split mortar
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Make them not yuri?

pliant ruin
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NO

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no

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caps

warm gull
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lore discussion is feeling very cmt rn

split mortar
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Oh ok

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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xe "rock"

split mortar
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Rebecca, good luck writing the journal when we get to profaned biome

pliant ruin
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there was this 1 image that was like

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a meme

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i found on tumblr

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and it was like

soft geyser
split mortar
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Wha

spare pier
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Not really, I wrote her backstory

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And why she is the way she is

soft geyser
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By far

dusk laurel
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what.

indigo glade
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Personal opinion.

spare pier
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I think you have a skill issue

indigo glade
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I believe she is great.

warm gull
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old duke

soft geyser
pliant ruin
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"me when the villain has an actual tragic and empathethic backstory which dosen't justify their heinous actions but just serves to make them more tragic as a character"

split mortar
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Imo that’s aureus

Providence is a decent to good boss for cal standards

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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that

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it was osmething like that

soft geyser
warm gull
pliant ruin
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i dont get it. i dotn get any of you

soft geyser
spare pier
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Byeah

soft geyser
pliant ruin
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anyways lore

spare pier
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Providence is a story I really really really want to write

split mortar
soft geyser
spare pier
warm gull
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I gotta get outta here

indigo glade
soft geyser
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I am an active member here

spare pier
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Please don't start bickering

soft geyser
indigo glade
pliant ruin
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okay im gonna go take a shower now

soft geyser
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I just hate prob

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Pro

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Prov

hot valve
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Hello what did I miss

spare pier
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You are literally fucking bickering

soft geyser
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I normally help people

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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old duke

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what will duke fishron entry be like clueless

soft geyser
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In the future

dusk laurel
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he is not a zombie

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thats being undead

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he is old

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very old

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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he's thousands of years old

split mortar
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I think that’s due to it being unfinished

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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no.

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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no.

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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yharim is 130~

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not a millennium

soft geyser
dusk laurel
proven rivet
dusk laurel
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that's not that young

soft geyser
split mortar
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Was yharim even a millennium or something in age in old lore?

dusk laurel
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who knows

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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old lore... hdflr

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must forget

soft geyser
spare pier
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No he was fucking 40

soft geyser
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The distortion trio were apprentices or henchman of dog was genius

split mortar
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Dog was even more fraud in old lore

dusk laurel
soft geyser
soft geyser
dusk laurel
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sentinels felt lacking

split mortar
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Didnt he have no control on ceaseless and signus was more or less an equal since they couldn’t kill eachother?

dusk laurel
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for signus yeag

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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cv was a weakened black hole

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no

split mortar
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Like ceaseless was a tear in reality or something with cosmic metal holding it back iirc

dusk laurel
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storm weaver in old lore is what yharim thinks weaver is now

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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why would he have a gun

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he is not a god-fearing american

spare pier
soft geyser
spare pier
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Yharim: "Yeah, this is like, a small Devourer or something"

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Dreadon: "Yharim is fucking stupid, how could something with this massive of a size disparity belong to the same species?"

dusk laurel
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common yharim intelligence L

split mortar
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Especially one that large, and like different organs and bone structure

spare pier
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I like to think that Draedon did tell this to Yharim

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But Yharim just said

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"Nuh uh"

dusk laurel
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😭 _ _

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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frenemies

indigo glade
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Yharim is one of those mums that say "I know what's best for you".

dusk laurel
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they're divorced

spare pier
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Yeah, basically HDfailure

indigo glade
split mortar
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They were ā€œfriendsā€, then ā€œenemiesā€ or neutral until yharim needed better armour I think

soft geyser
dusk laurel
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megh.

split mortar
split mortar
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Pfft

soft geyser
# dusk laurel megh.

Just think you beat him then suddenly he pulls out a Glock 27 and shoots at your head

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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you'll love what you'll see

soft geyser
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He looks cooler

split mortar
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Imagine if gfb avatar pulls out a glock aswell

dusk laurel
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signus currently [not the resprite] is a pretty borbus design

split mortar
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Borbus?

dusk laurel
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idk man

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i guess borbus is round

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and then the design and fight are pretty lacking, like it only shows that he is a mysterious dude because he's hooded, and for the longest time i thought his teeth were eyes

cosmic zenith
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I don't think there's a specific story I wanna tell tbh

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I guess that's just being a worldbuilder

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I'd rather use a handful of stories

indigo glade
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Short stories that can be pieced together for a grander picture?

cosmic zenith
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Though I have been giving Chrysadia and adjacent lore a fine treatment since it's what I'm most familiar with

hot valve
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hi

split mortar
spring helm
indigo glade
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Real.

dusk laurel
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whar XD

cosmic zenith
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Yeah, because I made the character

indigo glade
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So, Statis = Bone Lee

split mortar
indigo glade
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Obviously.

pliant ruin
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Worldbuilding is fun

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But i feel like in long term

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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I find writing stories themselves to be more satisfying and enjoyable

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This is just my personal preference though

cosmic zenith
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I can't believe Jackie Chan fought Yharim and lived

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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I enjoy both but i do have a bit of a preference for writing character arcs and such

split mortar
indigo glade
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It just feels like a lot to do.

pliant ruin
spring helm
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I love worldbuilding so much that I invented a new power for Yharim to have based on auric soul in a The One Piece Is Real meme

split mortar
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Yup

dusk laurel
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guppy

spring helm
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Cat that goes gup

cosmic zenith
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WAIT I SHARE A BIRTHDAY WITH JACKIE CHAN???

indigo glade
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Lmao?

pliant ruin
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I really like truly dwelling into a character's psychology, figuring out why they do things and what lead to them to do said things, and discovering any possible allusions through symbolism or simply the writing itself to elements present in real life

hot valve
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need to know how devourer functions on a biological level...

spring helm
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Why do I say that like he died lmao

pliant ruin
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My favorite medias are those that i can spend like 2 years thinking about and still figuring out new things about the story and characters i just hadn't thought of before

indigo glade
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Hildr grew up in ??? with her mother. One evening, when Hildr was a child, she and her mother were discussing futures and dreams. Her mother had mentioned that she used to dream about being a soldier, but due to ???'s laws, was not allowed to train as one. Hildr was immediately fascinated, and wanted to follow her mother's dream. During the day, when Hildr's mother was working, she would often sneak out the house and into the training barracks to watch the soldiers train from afar, and imitate their moves.

I am currently backstoring. (Not done yet)

spring helm
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What do you think guys, gals, and all the other lovely people? I kinda made it so auric souls had a sort of gravity to them.

hot valve
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Does the Devourer need oxygen? Does the distortion even have oxygen? How do the devourers eyes work? How does the devourer fly? What chemicals does his body consist of?

spring helm
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I should probably put a comma between ā€œDragonā€ and ā€œYharimā€

dusk laurel
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yes.

indigo glade
spring helm
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Only auric souls

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The weight of power

indigo glade
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I jest.

spring helm
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Or something I was at church when I wrote that

pliant ruin
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I don't think he does since i doubt the distortion has oxygen + I cannot reasonably for the life of me picture the Devourer drowning

hot valve
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Makes me wonder how Braelor is surviving in there

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and how we'll explore it

pliant ruin
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I like to think the way the distortion works is just so completely different from our own world that things just sort of Happen

lime lance
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how tf did desert scourge NOT find the sunken sea which is like directly under his home

pliant ruin
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Like

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Braelor can breathe

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But there's no oxygen

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He just can

pliant ruin
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He just didn't go to it

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because he has no reason to

dusk laurel
lime lance
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fair enough i guess

dusk laurel
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it already is fine in the underground desert

hot valve
dusk laurel
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it's not like it's suffering

lime lance
pliant ruin
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The Desert Scourge is thriving in the underground desert due to an abudance of food + lack of any predators large enough to act as competition

pliant ruin
dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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His upcoming design is the least Dry design yet

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Like

dusk laurel
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explain

lime lance
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hes getting a resprite

pliant ruin
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all the previous designs had him like

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Dried up and basically mummified

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This is the only one that is not that

dusk laurel
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his redesign actually shows a former sea creature

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it only has sand armor

lime lance
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nvm

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i was trippin on the zauc

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zause

indigo glade
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You're becoming blind.

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Aging early.

dusk laurel
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my eyes are weak to primordial light levels changing at quick intervals

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and yet i'm not blinded

cosmic zenith
indigo glade
hot valve
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draedon could just...destory the planet if he wanted right?

hot valve
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He obviously wouldn't

pliant ruin
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DS lived in the shallower segments of the sunken seas

hot valve
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but like

pliant ruin
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which have now been turned into the timeless shores

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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atleast afaik

dusk laurel
#

DS also wasn't a full-time aquatic creature

indigo glade
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Which is vastly different from destroying the planet.

hot valve
#

draedon beats every god by simply destroyng the planet

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owned

dusk laurel
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it could enter the surface desert

pliant ruin
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Okay well

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Nothing has been said about it going to the surface desert

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I personally

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don't think it would

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atleast not until

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yknow

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the sea got incinerated

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But it could go on land yeah

hot valve
#

was it ever desert on top

pliant ruin
#

Yeah

hot valve
#

like previously

#

oh huh

pliant ruin
#

The surface desert was always a desert

indigo glade
#

Its only evidence of going to the Surface for something is Post Incineration. (When it fights you)

pliant ruin
#

And some chunks of the underground desert were also still present there before

indigo glade
#

Isn't there a layer of just sand between Surface and Underground Desert?

pliant ruin
#

uhhhhh

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i guess but thats just the desert

cosmic zenith
#

Yharim every day after waking up

pliant ruin
#

mechanically speaking

dusk laurel
#

Yharim when usurped light:

indigo glade
#

T'was right!

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Wait, why is this a GIF?

dusk laurel
#

old ahh desert

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i haven't seen since 1.3

hot valve
#

they should add another level of providence for when it's a solar eclipse
mix of sun and moon clueless

pliant ruin
#

I think DS would spend most of its time swimming and would hunt underwater but would go on land from time to time, perhaps to bask in the heat of the underground desert

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since it is a cold blooded animal after all

lime lance
#

are desert nuisances like.... desert scourge babies or sum?

dusk laurel
#

kinda

#

yess

indigo glade
#

Children, yes.

#

Whether or not it is their parent is uknown.

cosmic zenith
#

That moment when Providence has no ties to either sun or moon

pliant ruin
#

Desert Nuisances (the one ingame currently) are juvenile/subadult scourges

pliant ruin
#

There'll be a smaller variant in the sunken sea update taht is a regular enemy

#

That is an actual baby/hatchling

lime lance
#

finally got a small piece of lore correct for once in my god forsaken life

indigo glade
hot valve
cosmic zenith
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There is one, but I don't think it'll be published? It might be inferred

hot valve
#

oh huh

lime lance
#

it doesnt really make sense tbh

dusk laurel
indigo glade
cosmic zenith
#

Let's just say she doesn't feel very happy at night

dusk laurel
#

too peaceful?

indigo glade
hot valve
#

oh we really do just wake her up from her nap

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LOL

cosmic zenith
#

Nope

indigo glade
#

Night reminds her of something?

cosmic zenith
lime lance
#

ok but actually why does nighttime providence happen

dusk laurel
hot valve
#

okay here's a question that I'm curious of you can answer

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do gods sleep?

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do they need it?

lime lance
indigo glade
lime lance
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they dont need it but i think they do it when they wanna ig?

cosmic zenith
#

I don't think they need it, but if they want to, I don't think anything stops them

hot valve
#

gotcha

indigo glade
#

Sleep deprivation is not a good combat technique.

cosmic zenith
#

Yeah

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I'd imagine they do sleep, just not all that often

hot valve
#

God of Sleep trust

dusk laurel
#

When dragon of dreams

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i need

cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
#

oh?

indigo glade
#

Dragon of Sloth -> God of Dreams.

hot valve
#

I'm excited to learn about the Blood God eventually

#

whenever and however that's given out

cosmic zenith
#

There is actually a Dragon of Dreams, in an addon

pliant ruin
#

There is also a entirely unrelated Dragon of Dreams in a fangame which added their Dragon of Dreams not knowing there was an Addon with a Dragon of Dreams and now a developer for said fangame is coping because she didn't know there was a addon that added a Dragon of Dreams

dusk laurel
#

whar.

lime lance
#

from what i heard, the true final boss according to the lore which is probably VERY far away from coming out is like yharim or sum?

hot valve
#

yes

pliant ruin
#

yharim is the final boss

#

xeroc/noxus are postgame superbosses that may or may not come

lime lance
#

probably gonna take ages for that sadly

hot valve
#

I give yharim half a decade to be added, hell probably longer
I don't mind waiting though

dusk laurel
#

mod needs polishing

#

so much old content that is not up to code

lime lance
#

the devs will def cook, i mean, hes the real final boss so he has to be unique and special in a way

hot valve
#

I think doing all the polishing and overhauls before adding the final boss makes sense

#

makes his addition feel more, yknow, final

magic epoch
#

they should make calamitas shorter

dusk laurel
#

whaig

pliant ruin
#

shes already really short why do you want to do that to her

magic epoch
#

because it would be funny

lime lance
#

calamitas is fine as it is

dusk laurel
#

she is one pixel lower due to bug rn already

pliant ruin
#

bully

magic epoch
#

4'11 cal please

pliant ruin
#

has she not went through enough torment already

hot valve
#

when are we getting a braelor accessory fr fr

#

wait

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i guess from him

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LOL

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

there are like 4 statis acessories but 0 braelor acessories

magic epoch
#

she's already short there's no reason to not make it shorter

pliant ruin
#

this is so sad

spring helm
lime lance
hot valve
#

iirc the statis summon one ideally was going to be renamed to be onyx kinsmen rather than statis himself

#

at least that's what a dev said they wanted to do

indigo glade
#

I want to do this to Calamitas after the fight, and just show her to her father.

pliant ruin
#

statis's Cool Ass Hat

hot valve
#

I think cause statis himself isn't at all a summoner in any way

magic epoch
dusk laurel
#

statis' void sash

pliant ruin
#

new vanity item that statis gives you after you complete his final quest and kill signus

#

it's a Cool Ass Hat

hot valve
#

Statis void sash is such a cool name for an item

pliant ruin
#

it dosen't do anything

indigo glade
spring helm
#

invisible hat

dusk laurel
#

statis' ninja belt

lime lance
#

witch gets beaten up by idiot with the power of a god.

dusk laurel
#

we are better than [most] gods

magic epoch
#

thinking of scal makes me wonder

indigo glade
#

Should I kill my OC's mother for the backstory?

spring helm
#

shortlamitas

pliant ruin
#

we are better than most gods except that one guy

#

you know

magic epoch
#

is there a reason shes still called SUPREME witch calamitas

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

that one

dusk laurel
spring helm
#

therock

hot valve
pliant ruin
#

what even classifies as a witch

indigo glade
spring helm
hot valve
indigo glade
magic epoch
pliant ruin
#

is a witch just any mage that uses forbidden spells

#

like

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necromancy

lime lance
#

whoever made the calamitas clone had NO idea of what S. calamitas even looked like

hot valve
dusk laurel
#

also draedong made it

lime lance
indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

calclone is meant to just be a Person as far as we're concerned it seems unless something has changed

spring helm
#

chat, show the old calamitas sprite

pliant ruin
#

shes not menat to be an Eyeball Demon

spring helm
#

eyeball calamitas

dusk laurel
#

eyelamitas

spring helm
#

eye of lamitas

lime lance
spare pier
#

Witch, mage, wizard, etc etc are pretty much the same thing, the only difference imo are differences in their areas of expertise, but like

indigo glade
hot valve
#

draedon when he makes supreme mech, Kronos:

spare pier
#

When giving titles like Archmage, everything is considered

magic epoch
#

it would make more sense for scal to be renamed to Brimstone Witch, Calamitas (since that's her most common title)

spare pier
#

Yes, but we kept Supreme Witch Calamitas so SCal still makes sense

magic epoch
#

yeah

#

that's the only reason I could think of

indigo glade
#

Rebecca, should I kill my OC's mother? For the backstory, of course.

hot valve
#

I mean thinking along the lines of Doctor Strange, the sorcerer supreme is the 'strongest' sorcerer, more or less

spring helm
#

it has come to my attention that perhaps my 1000 word joke is too long for people to read and enjoy at their leisure

hot valve
#

so strongest witch makes sense

spare pier
#

No, he is good at magic

#

Period

indigo glade
#

He is good at the magic.

dusk laurel
#

Good magic.

spare pier
#

The same goes for SCal

#

She is called a Witch, but the "Supreme" part is just because yeah

indigo glade
lime lance
#

who is more powerful? a giant cosmic worm which can consume GODS or.... shortie witch gurl.

pliant ruin
indigo glade
#

I'm tired of everyone acting like Calamitas can't do advanced levels of magic.

pliant ruin
#

wow look at that

#

cool ehadcanon

#

that i just made

#

bwecause i. K J

lime lance
indigo glade
#

She creates Cryogen, Sepulchre and necromanced her Brothers.

spare pier
#

Unless you're playing Mage

hot valve
#

lmao

dusk laurel
#

lel

lime lance
#

using magic to destroy magic.

magic epoch
#

scal enjoyers (me) when yharim kills her in the final boss fight

spring helm
#

ARCHmage to me implies he's as good in several branches of magic as someone who is specialized is in one

like an archscientist would be someone skilled in physics, biology, chemistry, and psychology

#

something along those lines at least

spare pier
#

Yeah, that's also how I view it

#

Permafrost may not be the strongest mage, but he's like

#

By far and wide the most skilled and versatile of them all

hot valve
#

Calamitas not being immune to silence when I inflict it and suddenly win the fight:

indigo glade
#

Inflicting Silenced on Calamitas instantly ends the fight.

spare pier
#

Sorry she has Nazar equipped :/

indigo glade
#

Dang.

hot valve
#

that is a based answer tbh

magic epoch
#

i think she had an ankh shield actually

indigo glade
#

What about using Cursed?

magic epoch
#

since she also has kb immunity

indigo glade
#

Damn it.

hot valve
#

apart from gameplay reasons, is there a lore reason why none of the bosses are good at regening like the terrarian

#

or is the terrarian just a freak

lime lance
indigo glade
#

No.

spring helm
#

So scuffed DnD analogy

An average wizard would be able to cast level 7 spells of their specialized school of magic and on average level 5 in other fields.

Permafrost would be casting level 7 in every field except his specialty, which is level 9.

lime lance
#

but still was really funny

indigo glade
#

I am contemplating killing a child's only parent.

spring helm
indigo glade
lime lance
lime lance
spring helm
dusk laurel
#

the cursed spell was released upon the world

#

I shudder at even uttering its foul name

hot valve
#

I think it’s really funny how horribly low the terrarian’s hp is

lime lance
dusk laurel
#

even with

#

it's low

lime lance
#

the smallest slime can like destroy terrarian

#

(if he doesnt attack first that is)

indigo glade
#

I wonder when in the Calamity world the printing press was invented.

dusk laurel
#

idk

indigo glade
#

Maybe if I summon one of the lore writers, I will get an answer.

#

One Piece.

#

One Piece.

#

One Piece.

#

Now, we wait.

lean crag
#

ONE PIECE

dusk laurel
#

The... One Piece?

lime lance
#

btw if you think about it, revengeance- dog has a extremely weak jaw if you consider the fact he can devour gods.

#

i mean the terrarian has awful hp already

dusk laurel
#

getting reworked.

lime lance
#

yeah but still

dusk laurel
#

DoG

lime lance
#

dog.

indigo glade
dusk laurel
#

ahh

#

well DoG is a fraud

indigo glade
#

He isn't.

spring helm
#

One Piece

indigo glade
#

Things are just awfully scaled in Terraria, so that enemies have to have way high HP and way low damage.

spring helm
#

low damage?

hot valve
#

The terrarian horrifically outclasses enemies in defense

hot valve
spring helm
#

bruh my ass gets one shot by slimes in hardmode

hot valve
#

Like moon lord would take quite a bit to kill skeletron

spring helm
#

that's true

hot valve
#

The terrarian’s weapons are jacked up like nobody’s business

vagrant surge
#

So uh... I've read the soul thing that you pick up when you kill bosses and... From who's perspective is it ? Because theres the Exo-Mech master who has those on screens and all, theres Calamitas who is mentioned multiple time, but who is the one describing us the story of the bosses ?

spare pier
#

Yharim

vagrant surge
#

So theres the Witch, the Scientist Exo... But who is Yharim. I'm lost in all this story <<

spring helm
#

the guy talking to you through the whispers

vagrant surge
#

I mean yea, I figure, but who is he in the fall of this kingdom/world/story

spring helm
#

He's kind of the guy the mod revolves around, many of the bosses you fight later on are involved with him, directly or indirectly.

Essentially, 100 years ago he started a worldwide crusade against the gods. A bunch of important people were part of his army. Permafrost the Archmage, Supreme Witch Calamitas, the Devourer of Gods, Yharon, Draedon

vagrant surge
#

I see I see, that starts to add up

spring helm
#

He was mostly successful, as most of the gods are now dead

#

but there are some still around

vagrant surge
#

Empress and ML I suppose ? With the goddess of nature in the depth

spring helm
#

no those aren't gods

#

he specifies specifically which of the bosses you fight are gods
Slime God and Providence

vagrant surge
#

Not yet at Providence

spring helm
#

oh my bad

vagrant surge
#

Only knew of Slime God

#

Oh its alright, I know its existence, the Profaned God

#

if I recall

spring helm
#

goddess but yeah

vagrant surge
#

Interesting interesting

spring helm
#

Yharim's not in the game yet though

#

the devs want to wait until everything else is finished before adding him

vagrant surge
#

The mod is not over yet ? Coooool

#

I'm still in the train :D

pliant ruin
#

The mod is

dusk laurel
#

just in time.

pliant ruin
#

really far from over, actually

dusk laurel
#

^

pliant ruin
#

probably will take... idk, half a decade or something 😭

vagrant surge
#

O hope so. If the boss keep getting more interesting like that. The story is so much more rich than vanilla terraria while still taking bits from it

pliant ruin
#

right now the main development being done is reworking outdated elements of the mod

#

as seen by the upcoming sunken sea rework + several biome reworks coming futurely, aswell as boss reworks

vagrant surge
#

Sunken is my fav biome by far

#

So peaceful

dusk laurel
#

ermmmm...

#

it is

#

yeah

vagrant surge
#

wdym <<

dusk laurel
#

you'll find out later

vagrant surge
#

I mean, still is peaceful of a place from early game to ML

#

Love the music

dusk laurel
#

rework will show signs of...

#

an incident in the sunken sea

#

why it is "sunken"

pliant ruin
#

I mean it is still fairly peacefull all things considered

#

Even the rework isn't adding many hostile creatures

vagrant surge
#

Would love to make my base there, if it wasn't for how hard it would be with all the water

spring helm
#

just repurpose the bio-centre lab in it

vagrant surge
#

Idk how to destroy the turrets.

pliant ruin
#

And also to be fair it was always "Sunken" it just got ... Errr... Sunkier, i guess

pliant ruin
spring helm
dusk laurel
#

yeag

pliant ruin
#

just mine em

spring helm
#

it only takes a bit

vagrant surge
#

I tried and it didn't work, weird

dusk laurel
#

it takes some time

#

not immediate

vagrant surge
#

Ill try again. I wondered why the research center were so hard to get by

vagrant surge
#

Is Nameless officialy part of the lore ?

#

I know it isn't part of the core mod,

dusk laurel
#

no, it's based off old lore xeroc

#

so not canon

vagrant surge
#

Sadge. The effects are so clean

cosmic zenith
#

Basically, everything outside the core mod and the music mod is not canon

#

Though of course, Catalyst lore is canon to Catalyst, for example

vagrant surge
#

I'm not familiar with the side mods, I'm afraid

#

I'm new to the game in general tbh. I have started playiong opnly 2 years ago and haven't even beaten ML in Normal.

#

Now I'm just vbibing on Revergeance.

cosmic zenith
#

Understandable :p
I hope you're having fun!

spring helm
dusk laurel
#

catalyst doesn't have goozma?

#

unless i can't read

spring helm
#

oh crap im thinking of the wrong mod

#

wrath of the gods

dusk laurel
#

Hunt of the Old God?

cosmic zenith
#

Goozma is Hunt of the Old God

spring helm
#

what a calamitous mistake

dusk laurel
#

WotG is nameless

#

and avatar

spring helm
#

I MESSED IT UP TWICE calsad

vagrant surge
dusk laurel
#

ermmm

spring helm
#

hm

dusk laurel
#

those are getting changed

vagrant surge
#

I'm a huge fan of Elementals

spring helm
#

they are still waifus

dusk laurel
#

more elemental in the accessories

vagrant surge
#

Collecting vaguely humanoid Elemental is enough for me

dusk laurel
#

and more of the anahita direction for the base form

vagrant surge
#

It is actually the thing I like the most

spring helm
#

in the words of a voice in some bird's head
BEHOLD THE PERFECT WOMAN

vagrant surge
#

Ooooooooh

#

So good

#

I mean, I love the old one but this looks more like a boss

dusk laurel
#

thats the rose stone

spring helm
#

this is the rose stone elemental

dusk laurel
#

the boss will be different

vagrant surge
#

It will ? Damn I can't wait to see it

dusk laurel
#

more tangible ig

#

idk how to describe it

neat juniper
#

Hi Is there any version of calamity mod for the version v2024.7.3.2

vagrant surge
#

More stable ?

dusk laurel
#

anahita is water elemental

spring helm
#

you kinda scatter the elementals into a bajillion pieces when you beat them

dusk laurel
#

but it's unique enough where it looks naturally occuring

#

they're immortal

#

they just don't want to work with you

spring helm
#

hey i said beat, not kill

dusk laurel
#

fair enough

vagrant surge
#

Like I said, the elements (mostly the 4 or 6 element if you include dark and light) is my most favorite theme in any game. And I feel like its so well represented in Calamity so I'll still hold onto the 5 guardian that float around me

spring helm
#

yeah i keep them around too

dusk laurel
#

most elemental designs as of now are rather empty

cosmic zenith
# spring helm speaking of catalyst, what are your thoughts on the addon's Goozma? personally i...

It's something I wouldn't include in the main mod for sure, but I quite like the lore
Slimes are the perfect beings for doing such thing, since they exist pretty much everywhere and can absorb matter and energy; of all living creatures, they are basically the only ones who can truly bring the essence of the world together
And the coalescence of slimes forging an Auric soul has a really neat message about what we can accomplish when we are together

spring helm
#

sick

dusk laurel
#

that's a nice message

#

so happi :)

vagrant surge
#

I mean, wouldn't slime become a hive mind at some point ?

cosmic zenith
#

More or less? I think that's kinda Goozma's case

#

It isn't for Slime God's case because he isn't a coalescence

dusk laurel
#

slime god is another being

#

not a slime

spring helm
#

i thought of it more as similar to Black Sperm in One Punch Man where there is a battle of wills during the merger and the superior slime consumes the mind of the others

dusk laurel
#

like a normal slime is not getting an auric soul

cosmic zenith
#

It's technically a slime, but not just a slime

vagrant surge
#

More like something that decided to be a slime ?

spring helm
#

the goober

cosmic zenith
#

Slime God is, as the name implies, a God

#

Who takes the form of a pretty cool slime

#

It didn't choose to be like that, but it is

spring helm
#

'boutta make a slime chapter for my calamity fic
call that shit "The Ultimate Lifeform"

dusk laurel
#

it doesn't seem to be normal gel

#

since it drops purified gel

proper cedar
#

So

#

The flesh

vagrant surge
#

Is there plan to add more powerful Whip ?

proper cedar
#

The metal

#

Or the advanced

dusk laurel
vagrant surge
#

SSO ?

spring helm
dusk laurel
#

Sunken Sea Overhaul

vagrant surge
#

Nice

spring helm
#

divine gel

proper cedar
dusk laurel
#

what?

vagrant surge
#

Yes, Dungeon Master

proper cedar
#

Shader Kai

#

Any DMs worst nightmare

dusk laurel
#

and some more whips after iirc

proper cedar
#

Can someone help me with queen slime

dusk laurel
#

you can get help here

#

since it's made for it

vagrant surge
dusk laurel
#

she's currently on a throne

#

not flower petals

#

that was a scrapped sprite

scenic olive
#

I wish you can combine all the rogue accesories that you get from bandit

dusk laurel
#

maybe make a sugg, idk

cosmic zenith
# cosmic zenith It's something I wouldn't include in the main mod for sure, but I quite like the...

In the main mod, Auric souls will remain as permanently lost
Like the past they belong to, nothing can really bring them back
But realistically, they don't need to be brought back

The past is gone, the future is yet to come, and the present is an opportunity
An opportunity to make the world a better place, unbound from the past's perceived idyll and the passive overreliance on the future
Despite the tragedies and losses

spring helm
#

that was kind of the message if the rock that xeroc gives right?

vagrant surge
#

Amen

dusk laurel
#

will we learn more of the "World Soul" in future updates?

scenic olive
#

is Calamity refering the Calamity that's to come or the Calamity of the past

dusk laurel
#

all we know is its end with the auric souls being implied fragments

spring helm
#

Yharim

scenic olive
cosmic zenith
#

Calamity is really a story about how things build themselves together after they crumble
And how fixating on the past can be like tearing down any wall people try to build in the present

cosmic zenith
spring helm
#

This is unrelated but

What are the limits to the elementals' control over their respective domains?

dusk laurel
#

yeah i can see that

spring helm
#

could anahita waterbend the blood out of you

dusk laurel
#

it's not really important enough to the story where we need to know everything about it

cosmic zenith
vagrant surge
#

We know Brimstone is as powerful as Calamitas when she was younger

dusk laurel
#

scal presumably somehow absorbed brimmy's powers

#

although we should wait till crags overhaul

cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
#

for more info about the event

spring helm
dusk laurel
#

that's what i thought

#

but it also makes sense that he wants to uphold the memory of the era when he arose

cosmic zenith
#

Xeroc wished to make the past (well, his present) last, constantly takes actions in the present to further his plan, while keeping a watchful eye on the future

dusk laurel
#

since the dragons might've started to disappear at this time

cosmic zenith
#

So their tie to the past has grown to be thin

cosmic zenith
#

Especially since he wasn't super involved for all this time with the events of the Deific Era

cosmic zenith
# dusk laurel for more info about the event

On the topic of new info
We are working on rewriting a handful of vanilla Bestiary entries that contradict Cal lore or could instead have better information
For example, mentioning how Wyverns are draconic offshoots and weren't released with the "ancient spirits"
So Sunken Sea Overhaul might have that, on top of all the Ilmeris stuff

#

We still need to vote on the Vanilla Bestiary matter

dusk laurel
#

oh

#

isn't some stuff already being made

cosmic zenith
#

Yeah

#

A lot of it is

dusk laurel
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rebecca showed a wip of EoC entry

dusk laurel
spring helm
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yeah but it's one thing two write the entries, it's another to actually implement them in game

dusk laurel
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since it's so short

scenic olive
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what was the inspiration for Ilmeris

cosmic zenith
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Right now, it's 63 entries long