lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

if u think about it

[warm gull]

and isopod talk

[pliant ruin]

isopods r just fish bugs,,,

if its in the sea it counts

[warm gull]

worms are one of the few things that explicitly aren't fish

and isopods

[pliant ruin]

every animal is either a bug or a worm or a fish

of some kind

[warm gull]

yes

bugs and worms are not fish however

you see

[pliant ruin]

either that or they're some weird primitive sessile fucker

like

sea sponges

[warm gull]

all land tetrapods evolved from fish at one point

they remain within the clade fo fish

therefore humans are fish

[pliant ruin]

humans are in fact fish

glub flgub

[warm gull]

and so are all terrestrial tetrapods

[real silo]

What about non aquatic isopods

Are they still fitshe

[frozen zodiac]

are we gonna get another platos man situation
-swims
-breathes underwater
this is a fish

[warm gull]

and this also means that both whales nd dolphins are fish

[pliant ruin]

this is also true

[real silo]

if: looks like fish
then: fish

[pliant ruin]

also insects are crustaceans dont forget taht one

[warm gull]

they evolved to go on land and then evolved to go back in the water

[warm gull]

thanks Clint's Reptiles

[real silo]

mfs went "fuck go back"

[frozen zodiac]

"i do not vibe with this universe"

[pliant ruin]

some sort of shrimp ✅

[dusk laurel]

thank you arthropod user

[frozen zodiac]

IS THAT A WEEVIL

[pliant ruin]

yes

[dusk laurel]

scandalous critter

[pliant ruin]

the only other one i can think of is birds being dinosaur but i feel like taht one is more well know by now

[pliant ruin]

me (a bond villain) watchin his video on my ideal pet (blacktip reef shark)

[real silo]

Weevil stands for Wee Bit Evil

[frozen zodiac]

i cant remember what type of animal sea urchins were actually

[warm gull]

this fucked up being is not a shrimp

[pliant ruin]

they're echinoderms

[warm gull]

it's a BEETLE

beetles are

[frozen zodiac]

oh great i was gonna sell my stuff i found exploring hyrule

[pliant ruin]

every insect is a shrimp if you stop to think about it....

[warm gull]

they're all crustaceans but not shrimps

[frozen zodiac]

what do you call a frog's skin

[pliant ruin]

a frogs skin

[warm gull]

echinoderms are starfishes btw?

[pliant ruin]

echinoderms r starfish and sea urchins and stuff like that ye

the weird Sentient Rocks

[warm gull]

how are the shrimps echinoderms

[pliant ruin]

no i meant sea urchins

[warm gull]

and then insects

[dusk laurel]

all animals are plants that can't photosynthesize if you think about it

[warm gull]

oh

[dusk laurel]

then we adapted

[warm gull]

they aren't

[pliant ruin]

animals are actually more of mushrooms than plants

[warm gull]

animals didn't evolve from plants

[pliant ruin]

because mushrooms are closer to animals than plants

[frozen zodiac]

why do we still have the appendix then

[spring helm]

animals and plants shared a common ancestor

they neither evolved from each other

[warm gull]

just like mammals didn't evolve from reptiles either

[dusk laurel]

we just suck

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

the mammals evolved from reptiles thing has been around

for way too long

when its literally not true

[spring helm]

god i still feel embarrased about that fumble i made

[frozen zodiac]

platypus are mammals right

[pliant ruin]

tyes

yes

[dusk laurel]

yess

[spring helm]

yeah

[warm gull]

I only learned about it the other day from throudon

it's okay

[frozen zodiac]

ok if god does exist what was he on when he created platypus
if god is not actually real how did evolution lead to platypus is our world an anomaly in that regard

[real silo]

And I only learned about that TOday

[warm gull]

what was god on when he created pangolins

[violet sparrow]

i can be your angle or your weevil

[pliant ruin]

i love non-mammal synapsids

[spring helm]

convergent evolution

[dusk laurel]

[dusk laurel]

so based

[real silo]

So silly

Why they chilling

[warm gull]

dimetredon and some secret second thing

[dusk laurel]

trasher redesign

[pliant ruin]

they just chillin

[pliant ruin]

anteosaurus

evil fat guy

[real silo]

ANT?

[warm gull]

anteoWHAT

[spring helm]

the environment that gave rise to the platypus just so happened to match what made the beavers evolve their tails and what mad ehte ducks evolve their bills

[pliant ruin]

one of the largest paleozoic synapsids

[spring helm]

something like that

[warm gull]

why is it called a saurus

[real silo]

That's a big dog

[violet sparrow]

what do you think platypus' taste like

[pliant ruin]

alot of animals that arent dinosaurs have -saurus in their name

[real silo]

perrious

[spring helm]

hm...

[dusk laurel]

saurus is latin for reptile

so idk

[pliant ruin]

it does mean Lizard and not Dinosaur to be fair

still sort of wrong given it's not a reptile but

[warm gull]

you can find this out for yourself if you're willing to break the law

[pliant ruin]

there's a dinosaur called Thanos so it's not like they make much sense most of the time anyways

[spring helm]

like beaver

[warm gull]

have you seen the barack obama spider

[dusk laurel]

tgats... a name

[violet sparrow]

dont dinosaurs not really fit modern definitions of reptiles

[warm gull]

they are reptiles

[dusk laurel]

i love archosaurs

[warm gull]

by the definition of being within the reptile clade

just like birds are reptiles

[violet sparrow]

i said modern definitions

they were warm blooded weren't they

[warm gull]

what are the modern definitions of a reptile?

I'm pretty sure clade defines what they are

[pliant ruin]

They are reptiles but they don't fit the Objectively Wrong Middle School Definition of Reptiles Why do they keep Teaching This it's literally Wrong Stop Doing That ™️

[violet sparrow]

you would NOT believe what scientists get up to when they find some random fuck all beetle or fungus that hasn't been named yet

[dusk laurel]

i know

its blursed

[violet sparrow]

all those definitions have exceptions and bent rules it's how you teach children

[frozen zodiac]

FELLOW AMERICANS

[dusk laurel]

bro 😭😭😭

[violet sparrow]

you really gonna go to an elementary school and go "yeah there's liquid solid and gas but have you little shits heard of PLASMA

[violet sparrow]

PEAK

[frozen zodiac]

we should all go back in time to destroy math

[pliant ruin]

yeah but then they never teach the rest later on 😭

[violet sparrow]

there's also at least two insects unfortunately named after hitler

[warm gull]

have you heard of bose-einstein condensate my toddler?

[dusk laurel]

[violet sparrow]

but there is a crepe myrtle named after reimu !

it was bred in a lab

[warm gull]

Who's reimu

[dusk laurel]

lets glooooooo

[violet sparrow]

touhou

[dusk laurel]

touhou reference

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/reimu-hakurei-retro-live-reaction-live-reimu-reaction-gif-25108998

[warm gull]

oh lol

[real silo]

is that reim

[warm gull]

why did you have this ready

[frozen zodiac]

Minos Phrime is another one named after a videogame character

[pliant ruin]

i vaguely remember a creature named after cirno but it might be a mandela effect and i also dont remembr what it was

[pliant ruin]

it's one of my favorited gifs

[warm gull]

bro ultrakill isn't even that old 😭

[pliant ruin]

Ultrakill is 0 years old

given ithasnt even released

its still in early access

[pliant ruin]

its from the future

Hundreds are dead.

[dusk laurel]

me when i kill hundreds of fairies:

[warm gull]

I mean by that logic terraria is older than minecraft because it had its 1.0 out first

[dusk laurel]

they were simply in the way

true

that is how things should be

[violet sparrow]

truee

[warm gull]

humanity is dead

mankind is dead

[frozen zodiac]

i fucking love blood martinis

[warm gull]

blood is fuel

hell is full

[frozen zodiac]

same thing really

[warm gull]

blood is coke fuel from calmain

[dusk laurel]

coke... what?

[pliant ruin]

btw i just burnt my pot of beans

[frozen zodiac]

wait isnt there a bloodstone flamethrower that drains hp

[pliant ruin]

that was gonna be my dinner

[frozen zodiac]

BEANS NOOOOOO

[warm gull]

L

[frozen zodiac]

tragedy we must all go to mourning

[warm gull]

wait

[spring helm]

that was me i was so pretentious as a kid

[warm gull]

eat them anyways

[pliant ruin]

im not eating burnt beans

[warm gull]

don't pass up on your nutrition

[dusk laurel]

my condolonces

[warm gull]

you need to eat

[spring helm]

😦

[pliant ruin]

im gonna make another pot its ok

i have more beans

itll just take

a bit

[violet sparrow]

get off discord 👉

pay attention to your beans

[warm gull]

true

[dusk laurel]

facts

[warm gull]

discord caused this

[real silo]

I agree with this message

[violet sparrow]

woe

[warm gull]

quick guys talk about fish

[real silo]

filth

[dusk laurel]

hallucigenia

griffinflies

[warm gull]

Cambrians

[frozen zodiac]

i ate so much meat this week because the 18th was the (technically) day of independence for my country and the whole week was free

[violet sparrow]

awesome

[magic epoch]

Fun Fact: there is a fish known as the Robust Assfish (thanks for letting me know this meowtopia)

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassozetus_robustus)

[frozen zodiac]

whats meowtopia

[warm gull]

server

[magic epoch]

true

[dusk laurel]

i will sever your bloodstream.

[warm gull]

have you guys seen the Aphrodite Sheep

[violet sparrow]

i would not trust a place called meowtopia

[warm gull]

aphrodite kallipygos sheep in particular

[warm gull]

idk if you know her but it's owned by octolinggrimm

it's chill

[dusk laurel]

it sounds like a place of great criminals

[magic epoch]

oh it is but it's also awesome

[warm gull]

yeah gay people do crimes there

[magic epoch]

there's a women channel......

[warm gull]

anyways aphrodite sheep

[dusk laurel]

like a waterway?

[warm gull]

they are very funny

[violet sparrow]

let's not define that any further in this server

[magic epoch]

[dusk laurel]

agreem

[violet sparrow]

yeah sheep woohoo

[dusk laurel]

i think rams are interesting

[magic epoch]

sheep lie from Minecraft?

[dusk laurel]

[magic epoch]

Minecraft kinda eemind me of this oengame you may have heard of it it's called Terraria

[dusk laurel]

really?

what's "Terraria"

sounds so familiar...

[magic epoch]

And there's this mod for the game called Calamity and the main villain Is fucki yellow

[frozen zodiac]

THE MAN IN THE YELLOW HAT???

I KNEW I COULDNT TRUST THAT BASTARD

[magic epoch]

No he's not a villain

[frozen zodiac]

peculiar

[magic epoch]

There is more than one yellow guy

Just like five nights at fewddys

There is more than one Freddy's

[frozen zodiac]

i was about to mention midnight motorist sob

[dusk laurel]

im rotting...

i need to sleep...

[frozen zodiac]

decompose faster

it helps

[pliant ruin]

don't rot

its bad

[magic epoch]

How will the night gaurd survive with so many fredyd ?!?

[frozen zodiac]

by going to a restaurant with normal mascots that dont get haunted

[dusk laurel]

that's why i lost my lower body

makes snese

[magic epoch]

Cooler option: call ghost busters

[warm gull]

I'm rotting

but not in my bed

in my brain

one might call it brainrot

alternatively

depression

[frozen zodiac]

you know if william never murdered anyone how different would everything be

[brisk topaz]

Well he would still design killer robots so

Only difference is fnaf 3 would never happen bc he would never get springlocked

[pliant ruin]

hey... hey lorers

observe,,,

i was bored... so

i think i'm gonna do the fellow scoogs too

[warm gull]

helo

dund

statblock

[hoary berry]

whar

[pliant ruin]

the annoying child

[hoary berry]

woah

awesome

[warm gull]

it seems like it would be very hard for a dnd character to fight a sandworm

just in general

they only pop out of the ground when attacking and then they basically just miss or swallow you whole

[pliant ruin]

theres a few sandworms in dnd

and also a cave worm

a really really big cave worm

thats also purple

[warm gull]

yes ik

especially the last one

that one stuck in my brain for some reason

mostly because how does it burrow through solid rock at a reasonable speed and not just leave a big opening behind it everywhere

[pliant ruin]

evil power

last guys btw

[devout grotto]

Wait huh is Azafure legit a Britain-inspired nation or is it all jokes

[deft vessel]

Oh thats why scal is British

[warm gull]

I think it's mostly jokes

though London was known for having absolutely abominable air quality during the industrial revolution

[soft geyser]

Nooooo

[warm gull]

and azafure was doing industrial shit

[soft geyser]

That has to be a lie

[warm gull]

and calamitas speaks britainese

[soft geyser]

No way scal is British

She doesn’t go

[deft vessel]

Yu uh

[soft geyser]

You bloody mate I will boil you into pot of tea

[warm gull]

have you watched the sbc video on DM Dokuro's channel she's explicitly british

[soft geyser]

She doesn’t do that

[hoary berry]

the 99% of the british population that doesn't say that:

[soft geyser]

You are bloody right mate

[deft vessel]

Thats londonese

[warm gull]

yes they do but since azafure is only based on britain she doesn't have to

[soft geyser]

I will get the pots of tea ready

[hoary berry]

nuh uh

[warm gull]

yuh huh

[soft geyser]

Yuh uh

[warm gull]

when I created great britain I forced them to say that

[soft geyser]

I met a British guy who said that yesterday

[devout grotto]

Ah fair enough

[untold oracle]

Bloody hell! This Brimmy blud is destroying our bloody city! There’s also this one geezer doing the same thing! Alert the bloody king!

[real silo]

No usage of bloke

Fake british iirc...

Chap too

[hoary berry]

i haven't heard someone use bloke unironically in months

or chap

[real silo]

They're the funniest

[hoary berry]

also what is nucleogenesis? a pauldron?

[real silo]

A nuke core

or smth idk ask pengo

[hoary berry]

star-tainted generator looks like a pauldron
statis' curse is a scarf

wait no

body armour?

[real silo]

a scauldron

like from httyd

[hoary berry]

so real

honestly

awesome creature

i always though statis' curse was a scarf but

[deft vessel]

I thought it looked like a belt

[real silo]

That does look like a scarf though

[hoary berry]

it does but also it goes so far down the torso

[real silo]

Terraria proportions probably

[hoary berry]

yeah

anyhow so we have a scarf(?) and a pauldron combining to make nucleogenesis

so what is it

i can sort of see it being a pauldron but also not really

i could go down the funky route and say it replaces your heart

since the way it pulsates reminds me of a heart to some extent

[real silo]

Yea it kinda looks like that

I would say generator looks kinda like an organ too

[split mortar]

What does it look like when equipped

[real silo]

No equip sprite afaik

[split mortar]

:(

[hoary berry]

only statis' curse has an equip sprite

of the three

srite

[hoary berry]

i can see that and a pauldron equally

[split mortar]

I think it looks like a stronger version of the star generator

Which doesn’t that look like a pauldron

[real silo]

It only looks like a pauldron because it's kinda similar to slagsplitter

[untold oracle]

What are we loring lorers

[real silo]

I don't think it's meant to be a pauldron though

[split mortar]

Crusty as fuck images

[real silo]

You're crusty...

[hoary berry]

i think i'm gonna say generator is a pauldron, just because i like the idea, but yeah whether or not it actually is one is up for debate

[split mortar]

Imo nucleogenesis would be a pauldron aswell

[hoary berry]

i can sort of see it, but imo it looks too close to a full circle for that

i'm sort of leaning on going down the route of it replacing your heart (or at least acting as an extra one, just it pumps mana rather than blood)

[split mortar]

It doesn’t seem any more circular to me

Just at a different angle

[hoary berry]

okay i tried to draw a diagram to show how full of a circle each one makes in my head but that didn't go well at all 💀

[sinful adder]

I think it looks like a... Spiral shell? Bicycle wheel with tentacles?

These do look like pauldrons, but they look equally like helmets or chest plates for that matter

The ones above I mean

I think the stat one is a generator pack thing

[hoary berry]

the top two circles are how full of a circle i personally can see in each of their sprites
the bottom left is how i imagine nucleogenesis to actually be if we could see other angles of it (related to the second heart idea, the hole is where mana it generates leaves to fill the body)

[split mortar]

To me nucleo seems like star tainteds circle but the tentacles make it seem more like the circles you drew

Why does it have tentacles

[hoary berry]

mana leaking out in such high densities that it takes on a physical form is the first thing that came to my mind, but that's literally just "it's magic so it could probably do this"

i do wish that the class accessories of that tier each had a little tooltip describing them

from what i can see only eclipse mirror does

[deft vessel]

Tbh its looks like its a growth on you

[split mortar]

Isn’t nanotech the ultimate class acc for rogue

[deft vessel]

Indeed

[hoary berry]

rogue has two accessories at post-dog

[mighty zenith]

there's three actually

[split mortar]

Rogue getting preferential treatment

[hoary berry]

venerated locket

right

i was thinking of craftable stuff so i forgot about that

[deft vessel]

Melee moment

[split mortar]

Doesn’t melee have

Elemental gauntlet

As it’s post dog accessories

[deft vessel]

It does, but i was talking about the fact that melee gets a lot more content

[scenic olive]

Dark God Sheath

[hoary berry]

every class but rogue only has one dedicated class accessory iirc

[scenic olive]

uhh whats the ball thing

[deft vessel]

Nanotech

[hoary berry]

though summoner does benefit more from DSR, it still has uses for any class

[scenic olive]

is the the same as draedon heart or..

[split mortar]

Isnt that like post ml or post lunatic cultist?

[hoary berry]

dark matter sheath is post cultist

[deft vessel]

I wish more cal acessories appeared on the player model

[scenic olive]

Oh yeah

[hoary berry]

rogue has three, then immediately gets another after yharon

[scenic olive]

post dog is eclipse mirror

[hoary berry]

eclipse mirror, nanotech and venerated locket

[deft vessel]

What is meld blob lore

[scenic olive]

Do we really need to count that in

[mighty zenith]

space residue idk

[scenic olive]

Venerated locket

[deft vessel]

Flesh of the invaders

[scenic olive]

Looks cool

but feels mid at best

[hoary berry]

woah where did the kill times section on the weapon tierlist go?

[split mortar]

I headcanon it as flesh from moonlord

[scenic olive]

I wish venerated locket was upgradeable

or

something that you could craft with cosmilite

[hoary berry]

not another cosmilite craft

[scenic olive]

how did hell did bandit got that in their hands

Or maybe

Make it so that only statis sell it

[hoary berry]

we made it, then bandit stole it from us and made us buy it from them

[scenic olive]

its like the equivalent of Batman saying Clark you work in my building youre paying me with my own money

[sinful adder]

I imagine the bandit grabbed a chunk of cosmilite that we missed from DoG's corpse

[untold oracle]

Nah

She went into the distortion to get it

Sneak 100

[scenic olive]

She escaped tax evasion by going there

[untold oracle]

Xeroc is after her

Distortion must be a tax haven

[scenic olive]

why do you think Noxus made it

its his private island

[untold oracle]

To avoid xeroc tax duh

[hoary berry]

i just found these notes i wrote for an OC's encounter with cal and idk wtf kind of sleep deprivation i was on

i might still use the idea of the terrarian sensing cal's approach from far away during meditation

i think i'm just gonna delete that doc

[split mortar]

That seems like sleep deprived beyond belief writing

[hoary berry]

thankfully i didn't try to write anything beyond notes because that would've been an absolutely miserable abomination to read

[split mortar]

Sleep deprived you is a comedy writer

[untold oracle]

This is hilarious to read

[hoary berry]

if being behind on sleep made me funny i would never go to bed honestly

[split mortar]

Well, do sleep it’s important

[untold oracle]

Just wrote a funny way on beating slime god

Since the paladins fire a lotta projectiles from their body, it would make sense that they would shrink from doing that

So as the god gets more desperate, they would spam them until they shrink so small they can be stomped to death

I also imagine the projectiles being corrosive

[split mortar]

Yeah that is funny

[sinful adder]

It wouldn't surprise me if they can easily grow the slimes larger again

Or make slime from nothing

[untold oracle]

Maybe

I think sg more likely can convert stuff into slime

[random mulch]

arm wavy

[untold oracle]

Bro thinks he’s a zombie

[untold oracle]

Or is she just dancing

Don’t you dare to hit me!

I’m glad scal will be destrawberrified

[calm patio]

I want someone to draw scal but with a strawberry as a head

[hoary berry]

sacred strawberry

[random mulch]

last hooded calamitas animation

[split mortar]

She getting jiggy with it

Gotta love how someone’s reasoning for calamity’s gods being like continental atleast is cause it doesn’t feel right that gods aren’t that comically strong

[solemn needle]

@fossil gyro Official wiki: https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/

**Do not use the Fandom wiki**

It will no longer be updated nor maintained, and it is heavily vandalized with fake information.

Use the official Calamity Mod Wiki here at wiki.gg instead.

[proven rivet]

Congratulations

[untold oracle]

[random mulch]

hooded calamitas with no eyes do be menacing tho

[untold oracle]

You’re approaching me?

[split mortar]

When you leave the box

[random mulch]

angery

[fossil gyro]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore
@stoic gulch

[stoic gulch]

that is the normal terraria lore:/

cal has different lore

[untold oracle]

@fossil gyro @stoic gulch check the pins of this channel

The whole ass lore document is there

[stoic gulch]

yes i know

he said that the mechs were made to destroy the earth but in cal its just an expirement

[untold oracle]

Yeah I saw it lmao

They’re experimental supersoldiers that Draedon made

[stoic gulch]

i luv draedon lore

[stoic gulch]

yeh

made from souls of peeps who probably fell to draedons charisma

and then declined from yharim cuz they have theyre own will

[fossil gyro]

Ik dude what i was saying is, the vanilla bosses in calamity werent messed with gameplay wise, and the calamity "city level" bosses are stronger than them, so i think calling calam superbosses city level str is kinda dumb

[random mulch]

time to do all of the cal animations but this time without the hood

[untold oracle]

The souls are from dead Yharim’s soldiers iirc

Yay!

[stoic gulch]

yeh

[mighty zenith]

wdym by this

terraria bosses cannot even break blocks outside of shitpost secret seeds

[fossil gyro]

Especially with the existence of weapons like "planet buster"

[mighty zenith]

what does gameplay have with their strength

[stoic gulch]

oh okk but the power scaling in cal is weird

we dont really know how strong the gods or anyone really is

[fossil gyro]

Stats and AI werent messed with

[untold oracle]

There are various estimations

[proven rivet]

[mighty zenith]

most cal weapons are like if you took a regular ass stick, called it "Eviscerator of Unvierses" and told me it can destroy universes in one swing

its there to sound cool

[stoic gulch]

the sea god in the pins is very spooky

[untold oracle]

One of the devs approximated Yharim’s power at around 300 or smth and Xeroc’s 3800

But that’s just one of the theories

[fossil gyro]

Thats just one factor, in vanilla the bosses get stronger than city level

[mighty zenith]

cause like how do you explain ark of the cosmos making a rip in space and it not literally oblitherating the world

[stoic gulch]

technically post ML ur solar level

[proven rivet]

"one factor"

[stoic gulch]

or stronger cuz i think a vortex is like a black hole

[fossil gyro]

Exactly

[mighty zenith]

and this is not vanilla

[fossil gyro]

These mfs be tellin me scal is city level

[mighty zenith]

vanilla bosses have completely different lore in calamity

[fossil gyro]

But the vanilla bosses in calamity are unchanged

[mighty zenith]

yes they are

their lore is changed

[untold oracle]

Scal’s feat on incinerating ilmeris was country level iirc

[stoic gulch]

and with the lore that exists astrum deus should be solar level but Scal is like city-continent power

[mighty zenith]

they receive gameplay changes in different modes

[deft vessel]

Vanilla power scaling goes higer than calamity

[mighty zenith]

calamity changes vanilla bosses

[fossil gyro]

Genuinely

[proven rivet]

Read the lore doc

[untold oracle]

Moon lord cthulhu void or what was that

[proven rivet]

Astronauts are solar level then

[fossil gyro]

Inb4 a weapon description says that this random sword tore a fabric in reality

[mighty zenith]

hyperbole to sound cool

[deft vessel]

Every Terraria mods powerscaling pretty much relyes on if moonlord is cuthulu or not

[fossil gyro]

How far does the hyperbole go

[mighty zenith]

again
theres nothing to back it up actually tearing the fabric of reality besides a tooltip

[proven rivet]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgyreCi8fGco8QiFhKHH8rIo_wHplhthdq08ro_SK9o/edit?usp=sharing

101 pages of lore

You have read zero

[fossil gyro]

Youre telling me the perforator is human level

[mighty zenith]

no

[fossil gyro]

He a punk bitch in comparison to endgame superbosses and theyre only city lvl

[mighty zenith]

any boss could easily kill a regular person

the scale just isnt completely off its shits

[proven rivet]

Please just read the lore doc

[fossil gyro]

They have like 1000x its HP and like 20x its dmg

[deft vessel]

The power gaps are not too big

[untold oracle]

What is this guy on

[mighty zenith]

it progresses relatively low because there's no reason for it to leave the planet

the game takes place on a single continent

[fossil gyro]

I read the calamity lore wiki page awhile back

[mighty zenith]

you're telling me there are all of these galaxy destroying monsters on one random ass planet

[proven rivet]

That is far from the doc

[random mulch]

woman

[hoary berry]

king slime would take two dozen regular soldiers to beat, according to a lore writer
perforators are well beyond that

[mighty zenith]

and none of them - not even the completely mindless weapons of destruction

[hoary berry]

true!!!

[mighty zenith]

destroyed the planet?

[fossil gyro]

U cant call them gods if they dont hold dominion over atleast a planet dude

Like atleast a continent

[hoary berry]

gods have a different definition in cal

[stoic gulch]

really???

[mighty zenith]

you can, because god /=/ omnipotence

[stoic gulch]

havent seen one irl

[mighty zenith]

like look at greek gods

[untold oracle]

[mighty zenith]

they hold power over a specific domain while not being completely off the wall broken

[fossil gyro]

The crystyl crusher doesnt even deal that much dps relative to superboss hp and it's beyond city level dude 😭

[mighty zenith]

thats basically calamity gods, just a little more grounded in reality

crystyl crusher isnt canon

[deft vessel]

Gameplay≠lore

[untold oracle]

Dev items and donor items aren’t canon

Dedicated content

[mighty zenith]

not everything translates from gameplay to lore
because this is, in fact, a mod with limitations

[fossil gyro]

The problem is, the destroyer was kinda made to destroy the world of terraria, lorewise

[untold oracle]

Atom splitter low-multiverse level bs

[untold oracle]

THAT IS TERRARIA!!! This is calamity!

[proven rivet]

oh my gosh

Do you still not have a single idea what you are talking about

[stoic gulch]

omfg

[untold oracle]

This guy gives me serious brain damage

[fossil gyro]

The powercreep is THAT slow in calamity?

[deft vessel]

No it’s just big metal worm

[hoary berry]

ok there's no need to be that rude about it

[mighty zenith]

we've said like 3000 times that calamity lore is different from vanilla because vanilla doesn't really treat its narrative seriously, at all

[fossil gyro]

Thats the size of a city block?

[mighty zenith]

vanilla does shit for the sake of it

[tall delta]

yeah calamity stops at like country+

[deft vessel]

This is not Terraria lore

[untold oracle]

It’s a soul-driven warmachine redustributed to mining

Not a world destroyer

Bro

The eater of worlds should be planetary level!

Just check the name out!

[fossil gyro]

Homie homie the destroyer's existence and design just makes it a city buster

Big metal worm with lasers and a massive mouth

So every boss thats stronger than it should be higher

[fossil gyro]

No

Destroyer tho? Maybe

[sinful adder]

No it doesn't

[untold oracle]

Not necessarily

[sinful adder]

It is a mining machine with laser guns

And this is a world with magic

[deft vessel]

Calamity feels quite medieval so towns and stuff are a lot lot lot smaller than cities

[untold oracle]

Attack potency and destruction potential or whatever they’re called are different things

[sinful adder]

Power scaling is also just 95% bullshit

[stoic gulch]

and EoW is a big worm with hundreds of eyes and mouths that spit damaging spit

[mighty zenith]

calamity's technological progress is kind of all over the place

[untold oracle]

Just ignore the supertechnological horrors here and there

That’s what I love

[fossil gyro]

Im pretty sure you can repurpose an industrial crane to destroy a city

[deft vessel]

If i steal the us nuclear codes does that make me planetary level? Huh

[fossil gyro]

A block

[untold oracle]

Holy shit

Real life powerscaling

[fossil gyro]

Holy shit big metal worm is actually made of aliminium foil

[sinful adder]

Not really. These things are a lot less capable than you think

[fossil gyro]

And the probes run of magic and lenses

[sinful adder]

The destroyer can definitely destroy a town

[fossil gyro]

Yeah man

[sinful adder]

And more given enough time

But not in a single attack

[fossil gyro]

So why is my 6mil HP plasma shooting dragon not higher than city level

[mighty zenith]

i could destroy a city given enough time by just mining it all up

does that make me city level

[sinful adder]

A real life human can destroy a mountain with a shovel, given centuries

[split mortar]

In lore they are though, stats don’t affect lore

[sinful adder]

Power scaling is bullshit is why. The concept of "city level" or "planet level" makes no sense.

[mighty zenith]

^

[fossil gyro]

True but a lore writer used it

[sinful adder]

That doesn't matter

[fossil gyro]

To say yharim, owner of said plasma dragon, is city level

[deft vessel]

City level is if you can destroy it in one attack

[split mortar]

I think those deemed city level are ones that can destroy a city if they use all their power

[untold oracle]

What plasma dragon lmfaoooo

[split mortar]

Wha

[sinful adder]

Answers have been given for people who want them

[deft vessel]

I think

[tall delta]

mold

[deft vessel]

But idk

[sinful adder]

Yharim can punch a person through a mountain at maximum power

That's the amount of power available

[untold oracle]

Yes, but he’s a single human, a single person being city level is pretty damn strong

[sinful adder]

The dragon makes fire tornadoes but it's a big angry bird, it's not all powerful

[fossil gyro]

So completely disregard vanilla lore and the moon lord having a celestial armada than can destroy the planet?

[split mortar]

Yes

[sinful adder]

Yep

[untold oracle]

Not to mention exotechnology-powered armor along auric rejection

[split mortar]

Vanilla lore not canon

[fossil gyro]

Damn

[proven rivet]

Indeed

[deft vessel]

Thats his whole army

[untold oracle]

Took way too long.

[sinful adder]

Keep in mind, it's easy to overlook how powerful "city level" is

[split mortar]

We don’t have celestial pillar lore for calamity and in vanilla the pillars bind moonlord away from the earth

[deft vessel]

Also vanilla moonlord = cuthulu
Calamity moonlord ≠ cuthulu

[split mortar]

That’s stronger then most to all nukes

[sinful adder]

You would need an entire army of ordinary people with regular guns to kill slime god

[split mortar]

^

[untold oracle]

Iirc in vanilla lore moon lord is cthulhu’s brother

[fossil gyro]

If my vanilla terraria character is canonically stronger than my calamity character with 920 HP it just kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[deft vessel]

Nu uh

[untold oracle]

Yuh uh

[deft vessel]

Nu uh

[split mortar]

Stats ain’t affecting the lore strength in calamity, more health in calamity doesn’t mean you’re above vanilla

[sinful adder]

That's too bad tbh. You can always just interpret vanilla lore to be something else

[untold oracle]

Well, the terrarian can be just as powerful as you want

[sinful adder]

The player character's lore is up to you

[untold oracle]

Oh god

[sinful adder]

You can say they're stronger

[untold oracle]

We have summoned

The picture

I think

[split mortar]

I mean if you consider the void Cthulhu moves as the Lovecraft void then moonlord is like in boundless

[deft vessel]

Remeber
Gameplay ≠ lore!

[split mortar]

In vanilla

[deft vessel]

Terraria lore moment

[sinful adder]

Lovecraft is also stupid

[fossil gyro]

Crawltipede is stronger than scal cus it does more dmg than one of its attacks ong

[deft vessel]

He was quite uneducated

[sinful adder]

I am not sure if that is right

He was a paranoid weirdo, sort of

[deft vessel]

Or he just did not research shit

Also racism

[split mortar]

Vanilla crawltipede prob is

[fossil gyro]

Thas weird

[sinful adder]

Researching things was not really possible back then, mostly

[sinful adder]

It's not weird because vanilla lore is unreasonable

[deft vessel]

I mean yeah. But he did not understand a lot that he was writing about

[split mortar]

With how vanilla is the fragment flavour text may not be metaphor or non canon

[sinful adder]

As is any lore that scales that high

[fossil gyro]

Iy really is not

[untold oracle]

What. . . ?

[sinful adder]

Vanilla lore contradicts itself all the time, so it should all be ignored

[split mortar]

To be fair lore is prob one of the last things relogic cares about making make sense

[deft vessel]

Terraria itself is not really a loreful game

[split mortar]

Only source is basically the bestiary

[fossil gyro]

You can barely feel the powecreep in calamity if all characters hover around city block and city tier

[split mortar]

Well Xeroc is like country level

And Noxus is more destructive

[fossil gyro]

Base terraria powercreep makes more sense

[deft vessel]

No?

[random mulch]

the collective

[sinful adder]

Not at all

[deft vessel]

Big rock to cuthulu

[split mortar]

City block is like three sky scrapers, city level is like thousands

[sinful adder]

Also, this is a good thing, in writing terms

[fossil gyro]

Stupid slime that killed a single ninja -> cthulhu's eyeball -> city destroying wall of flesh -> mechs that were intended to destroy the world -> celestial invasion to destroy the planet

[deft vessel]

It’s mostly that what city is it based on

[sinful adder]

Power scalers don't understand narrative importance of things at all

[fossil gyro]

In calamity you have to cut that at around pre HM and stretch it

[random mulch]

time to do catastrophe, cataclysm and the soul seeker

[sinful adder]

Yeah, that's stupid. Why does someone get that strong? Why should any story have that wide of a power range?

[fossil gyro]

Cus aliens

ETs

[split mortar]

You do know Cthulhu is basically a adjective to mean big and strong in calamity

Right?

[sinful adder]

No, it is very much gradual and reasonable. You just have to think about it in terms of how power of things actually works instead of the absurd 100x exponential scale that power scalers use

[deft vessel]

You can get around it if it is voven into the story

[fossil gyro]

Celestial creatures are invading -> theyre capable of taking over entire solar systems

[sinful adder]

Solar systems don't exist in calamity

[fossil gyro]

Thats fair

[split mortar]

that just means they’re made of celestial matter

Which is fragments and meld blob

[fossil gyro]

Wheres the great sand shark foight

[sinful adder]

The calamity universe has different physics that cannot be made equivalent

[split mortar]

It’s a random predator so idk

[fossil gyro]

It says theyre invading

Celestially

[sinful adder]

The fallen stars you see in game are real stars in calamity terms, the balls of gas we call stars in real life don't exist in calamity

[split mortar]

So they’re from space

Yeah stars are just mana balls

[deft vessel]

This reminds me of the fact that my ”mods” (it does actually not exist). The sun rotates around the main planet

[sinful adder]

No, it says that the creatures are celestial (space related) and that they're invading

[split mortar]

Astral meteor is bigger then normal stars since it’s bloated

[fossil gyro]

They invaded from space means they have the means to wage intergalactic war

[sinful adder]

You could have fallen stars with legs and they'd be celestial creatures

[sinful adder]

No it doesn't

[split mortar]

Not really, space is like not that far

They could be half way to the moon and it would be a celestial invasion

[sinful adder]

Have you seen space in terraria? It's like 200 ft above you

[fossil gyro]

Moon lord reigns over the moon, it's a planet v moon conflict at the bare minimum

[split mortar]

Nope

[fossil gyro]

Thats just the exosphere ong

[split mortar]

Moonlord not from moon

[sinful adder]

That's like saying your next door neighbor is invading

[deft vessel]

I think thats just the lower orbit

[split mortar]

It’s called moonlord cause it’s trapped there

[fossil gyro]

If it was really space you wouldnt fall back down

[sinful adder]

It's called space in game

[fossil gyro]

In real space 0 grav

[split mortar]

Planetoids are in low orbit

[sinful adder]

No, you would actually. That's not how space works

[random mulch]

funny guy

[split mortar]

Football

[deft vessel]

You dont fall is you are outside of earths gravitational pull

[split mortar]

Technically you aren’t

[fossil gyro]

Ok, in out of orbit space both you and earth's gravitational pull wouldnt be enough to pull

[split mortar]

Since gravity doesn’t have a end just a point where it stops needing to be considered

[deft vessel]

It’s low enough to ingnore

[fossil gyro]

Which is where moon lord is, way out

[sinful adder]

No, that's not how orbit works actually

[split mortar]

Stuck in the moon

[sinful adder]

I will give you a physics lesson

[fossil gyro]

Please dont make me pull g = Gm1m2/d² or whatever

May have gotten the denominator wrong

I took physics

[sinful adder]

Physics lesson: In real life, space starts 100 km up, as a completely arbitrary line. Being "in orbit" means you are falling downwards, but are moving sideways so fast that you always miss the ground. The moon, if it were moving sideways fast enough to make a full rotation every 30 days, would be attracted to the earth and fall. The earth, if it were not moving around the sun once every 365.25 days, would fall towards it

[fossil gyro]

I KNOW

[split mortar]

So even the moon is falling to the earth

[fossil gyro]

Facts

[sinful adder]

The earth's "hill sphere" is its gravitational influence range, beyond which the pull from earth is canceled out by the pull from the rest of the universe. It is something like twice the distance to the moon

[deft vessel]

Actually the opposite

[split mortar]

They can both fall towards eachother

[fossil gyro]

The moon is separated from earth

By space

[deft vessel]

It’s going away

[sinful adder]

The moon happens to be getting further away from the earth because it is spinning faster

[fossil gyro]

So these creatures invaded through space

[sinful adder]

Which it is doing because tidal forces or something

Ok then yes absolutely

But still, that sentence is vague and doesn't require a lot of the things you think it does

[split mortar]

We know celestial fragments are just kinda in space since deus has them in it

[fossil gyro]

Im pretty sure the nebula fist's item description is "from orion's belt, to your hand"

[split mortar]

Vanilla moment

[sinful adder]

Not canon to calamity

[fossil gyro]

I know it might just be a joke but thats some pretty deep space travel

[sinful adder]

Only calamity bestiary entries, lore items, and some item descriptions are canon

[split mortar]

I’m vanilla it’s completely believable it’s like some condensed galaxy in Orion’s Belt or whatever but in calamity uhh. O

[split mortar]

Calamity Bestiary entries are omniscient and always true

Vanilla ones haven’t been changed yet

[fossil gyro]

We were discussing how vanilla crawltipede is stronger than scal

[deft vessel]

What was the crawltepede

[fossil gyro]

Mfw i craft a weapon made from enemies found in orion's belt

[split mortar]

Solar worm that hates you flying

[untold oracle]

Solar pillar worm

[deft vessel]

Oh yea that nuisance

[split mortar]

Nuisance

Not nuicanse

[untold oracle]

[deft vessel]

What error

[untold oracle]

Back to writing it is

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

Honestly, probably stronger then xeroc a vanilla crawltipede

[fossil gyro]

So where do the pillars come from in calamity

[mighty zenith]

i love powerscaling, can we kill all powerscalers

[split mortar]

No lore on them yet

[mighty zenith]

not public info just yet

[deft vessel]

Moonlords fingers

[untold oracle]

Are the cultists at the dungeon from the dragon cult

[sinful adder]

Yes

[fossil gyro]

I HATE IT TOO i just firmly disagree with superbosses being weaker than the vanilla lore with holes like the weapon descriptions, names, and the pillars

[deft vessel]

Why are they summoning fovos?

[sinful adder]

They are sealing it away

[split mortar]

They hold him back in calamity

[deft vessel]

Oh

[sinful adder]

Imagine if moon lord had 4 magic rocket boosters as legs and those were the pillars

[hoary berry]

@ omni ......

[split mortar]

Mention monster hunter to bring them

[fossil gyro]

Monster hunter is a goated game

Safijiiva is atleast continent level

[untold oracle]

Why are they worshipping fovos then?? Isn’t he like the #1 enemy of dragons

[split mortar]

Honestly post lunatic vanilla is just comically broken

[sinful adder]

Think about it this way: restricting yourself to vanilla power levels is bad for writing around

[sinful adder]

They're not. They're holding him back

[split mortar]

Like apart from nameless deity and Fargo souls I don’t think there’s really a mod that equals it or above

[untold oracle]

The tablet has fovos’ face I’m p sure

[fossil gyro]

But theyre restricting themselves to even less than vanilla?

The spectrum is smaller now

[deft vessel]

Vanilla lore makes no sence

That’s why

[split mortar]

Which can be better

[fossil gyro]

Also, you dont have to restrict anything, they can go multiple multiverses and 4th wall breaks if they want

[sinful adder]

Yes. That's good. It is still more than large enough. The smaller the power scale, the more interesting the story. Think of all the countless stories in existence that don't have any variation in power at all

[untold oracle]

I like it this way rather than galaxy killer hyperbosses

[split mortar]

As a writer has said

If yharim is like universal then why not get all good people into a continent and alt f4 the continent with bad people

[sinful adder]

That would make the story worse

[split mortar]

Sometimes restricting things can bring a better story

[sinful adder]

Lower power makes better, more reasonable stories

[tall delta]

simple because the people there also must be pretty powerful lol

[sinful adder]

Basically always

[fossil gyro]

You mean like post ML bosses MUST all be above planet level if not change vanilla?

[fossil gyro]

Facts

[split mortar]

But they do change moonlord lore

So it’s no longer like star level minimum

[sinful adder]

High power scaling is a crutch. It is something bad writers use because they don't know how to make something that's actually cool

[fossil gyro]

Idc where everyone lies i just think the entire structure of the bosses and equipments, their designs are kinda fucked

[random mulch]

cataclysm moment

[split mortar]

That or they want some power fantasy thing

[deft vessel]

Ora

[stoic gulch]

my favorite lil guy :3

[fossil gyro]

They dont accompany the current level system well

[sinful adder]

You can think that, but most people disagree with you.

[real silo]

"lil" guy (four times your height)

[random mulch]

only catastrophe is left

[split mortar]

Stuff is still being made better to fit new lore, like boss dialogue being outdated

[sinful adder]

Tbh a few things are designed around old lore, but still

[deft vessel]

Have yall seen catastrophes ”legs”

[untold oracle]

We are all liars. You’re the only one here correct. Of course.

[fossil gyro]

Like if the destroyer was another really big earthworm ill believe that it's below city level

[deft vessel]

Bro is a Stickman

[untold oracle]

Don’t hit me : (

[split mortar]

It’s basically that with mid lasers

[fossil gyro]

Big metal worm just doesnt look like its power class

[fossil gyro]

Earthworms are made of flesh, the destroyer is made of high end steel

[sinful adder]

A lot of things only seem stronger than they are because you assume they must be based on how real life or other media does similar things

[split mortar]

Not even steel

Hallowed bars

[fossil gyro]

Yeah whats wrong with referring to real life

[fossil gyro]

Isnt that like 8 tiers of ore above iron

[split mortar]

Calamity cosmology is very different to irl

[fossil gyro]

Aka way way stronger than iron

Tiers of bar

Cus no hallowed ore

[split mortar]

Iron ain’t steel

[sinful adder]

Actually, do that. think about real life tunneling machines. They're not big metal monsters that could destroy a city, they're slow, fragile machines that just barely manage to hold up the weight of the rock above them, moving at inches a minute

[split mortar]

There is in calamity

[fossil gyro]

They can definitely hold the weight of a rock

[sinful adder]

No, I mean the hundreds of feet of rock above them when digging

[fossil gyro]

RL tunneling machines arent the destroyer tho, hes stronger

He was made for what his name suggests

[sinful adder]

Sure, just not as much insanely stronger as you think

[split mortar]

It’s repurposed mining equipment so maybe not

[sinful adder]

It's a war robot made from repurposed mining equipment, it kills big monsters, but it's not like a nuke or anything

[fossil gyro]

Mechs were made to replace cthulhus lost body parts

[split mortar]

That’s vanilla

[fossil gyro]

Or just wreck havoc

[sinful adder]

Calamitas is like an actual nuke

[split mortar]

^

[fossil gyro]

Regular calamitas?

The imposter

[sinful adder]

No. Real (supreme) calamitas

[deft vessel]

Ingnore Terraria lore

[sinful adder]

Imagine the range between "normal human" and "living nuke". Calamity has that range

[split mortar]

Regular is supreme witch calamitas, the plantera equal is a clone

[sinful adder]

But like, really think about it closely, at the level of a person gaining power

[split mortar]

Oh Venus here

[cosmic zenith]

That would get pretty messy since the mere fact so many super powerful people exist raises the stakes significantly, and you can just reach a point where you think "how the fuck does the universe still exist with these beings around"

[fossil gyro]

The amount of item descriptions i can find with "universal obliteration"

Wait

Isnt there a weapon called atom splitter

[sinful adder]

Those are planned to be replaced

[fossil gyro]

Not universal obliteration

[sinful adder]

Not canon

[fossil gyro]

Just like

Planet or more

[sinful adder]

Yeah. The atom splitter thing isn't canon

Unless an atom is something different in calamity

[cosmic zenith]

It is, it's just hyperbole

[sinful adder]

After all, stars are little mana balls

[cosmic zenith]

We're not gonna police cool, clearly exaggerated names just for the sake of lore

[proven rivet]

Supernova is a prime example of a Hyperbole

[cosmic zenith]

That'd be pretty lame

[split mortar]

Same with ark of the cosmos

[sinful adder]

Oh, so it's "canon", but it's not literal, it's the player character saying like "hell yeah, I could destroy the universe with this thing"

[fossil gyro]

So the calamity powerscaling is inconsistent

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[split mortar]

There’s a lot of hyperbole in item descriptions

[sinful adder]

Well, no, it's just not every statement is complete literal

[fossil gyro]

Im just mentioning names rhat i remember, not item descriptions

[split mortar]

And also shadowspec gear ain’t canon

[deft vessel]

It can cause a proble when there are too many things called like: Gilgamesh the consumer of reality

[random mulch]

apparently catastrophe doesnt have much of an idle

[cosmic zenith]

There aren't that many though?

[sinful adder]

Item descriptions and names are sometimes fake, just meant to look cool

[cosmic zenith]

The most exaggerated tier is Shadowspec, which is non-canon

[fossil gyro]

It's not a problem whatsoever when you remember solar pillar weapons exist

[untold oracle]

He’s just standing there, menacingly

Or floating

[cosmic zenith]

Generally, if it's not dedicated/crossover content or blatant references, it's canon

[split mortar]

That’s vanilla

[fossil gyro]

And they all come from constellations and shit

[split mortar]

Vanilla weirdness

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, how we're gonna change vanilla weapons :\

[fossil gyro]

I honestly think taking the calamity weapon names n descriptions at face value makes more sense if youre following regular progression

[deft vessel]

I can probably be done. But it would just be pointles

[sinful adder]

It doesn't, you're just convincing yourself that it does

[fossil gyro]

Going from shooting nebula arcanum to an atom splitting gun makes sense

[sinful adder]

Because you want big power levels

[fossil gyro]

It's lirerally in the mod

[cosmic zenith]

There's a reason the base game doesn't delve into higher power scales

[sinful adder]

It doesn't actually. A nebula is so much bigger than an atom splitting. Seriously, splitting individual atoms is a very small thing.

[split mortar]

How? Nebula arcanum is like a black hole in vanilla or something

Atom gun would be causing nukes to get set off

From galactic to like mountain level

[fossil gyro]

I just said atom splitter cus i forgot all the other examples

[cosmic zenith]

I don't see how it's a black hole

[deft vessel]

In calamity ingnore a lot of vanilla stuff

[fossil gyro]

This goes further than equipment

[sinful adder]

Nukes are only strong because they split exponentially increasing amounts of atoms

[split mortar]

That or a galaxy idk

[cosmic zenith]

To me, it seems like a ball of magic

[fossil gyro]

DoG's soundtrack is literallt called universal collapse

Like dude

Pick one

[deft vessel]

Bro thats a song

[split mortar]

That’s old lore

[dusk laurel]

that's not a great idea

[cosmic zenith]

^

[fossil gyro]

Universal destruction or city level

[split mortar]

Back when dog teleporting casually created universes

Or something

[sinful adder]

They did pick one. They're in the process of changing to the one they picked

[cosmic zenith]

If DoG could collapse the universe, the universe wouldn't exist anymore lol

[dusk laurel]

especially since exaggerated names can be way cooler

[fossil gyro]

There is a LOT of old lore and honestly, it makes way more sense, especially bc you dont have to reconstuct vanilla lore in ur head

[split mortar]

Dog would do it as a flex

Tbh you still had to

[fossil gyro]

Wof city level, ML planetary or above, everyone else goes higher

[sinful adder]

It is not possible for anything of that power level to be logically coherent

[random mulch]

swinging

[split mortar]

Since vanilla was like either below or above calamity

[fossil gyro]

Man, dog goes through wormholes, i dont get how thats below city level

[cosmic zenith]

Old lore still changed vanilla, it just didn't necessarily break the vague powerscaling

[tall delta]

are you seriously basing dog power level by his theme name

[deft vessel]

I think catastrophe should do Leg day

[split mortar]

Because opening a portal isn’t always going to be multiversal

[fossil gyro]

Just giving examples

[dusk laurel]

his portals are also unstable

[tall delta]

oh good

[fossil gyro]

So it's not just equipment

[sinful adder]

No. If this were the case, the world would have already been destroyed, because more people would be that strong

[dusk laurel]

and he can't do much against someone like yharim

[split mortar]

Yeah but the music is obviously old lore

[sinful adder]

Also, magic mirror exists. Teleportation is not a strength thing

[dusk laurel]

music was made long before new lore

[fossil gyro]

Terrarian doesnt allow that

[sinful adder]

The music titles are old lore because they're from years ago

[cosmic zenith]

Huh?

[split mortar]

If people were that strong, suicide nuking the earth would be common

[cosmic zenith]

You start out with 100 HP

[sinful adder]

The terrarian didn't exist the whole time

[dusk laurel]

we're not some keeper of order

[cosmic zenith]

DoG was around then, it could easily destroy the universe in that case

[split mortar]

You can like canonically beat only 8 bosses to win

[dusk laurel]

yeag

melon show the image

[split mortar]

Nearly fucking did in old lore

[fossil gyro]

WE CAN DESTROY CONTINENTS WITH NUKES BUT STILL HAVENT FIGURED ANYTHING WORMHOLE RELATED

[dusk laurel]

what?

[fossil gyro]

Well wormholes are scifi

[untold oracle]

Nononono

[split mortar]

No?

[proven rivet]

This is calamity, not the real world

[untold oracle]

Uhh

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[proven rivet]

also, we have not blown up an entire continent with nukes

[fossil gyro]

Same thing

[split mortar]

We can’t

[fossil gyro]

We could

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

A nuke isn’t even city level

[dusk laurel]

that's not tge same dude

[untold oracle]

Splitting an atom is far away from wormholes, which are fully theoretical anyways as of right now