#lore-discussion
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not again
No thanks
weaver is gluttony because in infernum he goes nom nom on tha harpies hehe
Are those distortaion dudes because we only counting distortion ones
dog is gluttony because of the same reason but providen
I say he signifies wrath to the average guy more as noxus is more unknown but always feeds
its just the 5
I say dog is pride because he is prideful
I wonder when we find out if DoG is properly hive minded or if he is seperated but loyal enough
We don't know what noxus does with the essence
That is why I said we need 2 more
what about the gays
It has been stated he eats them I am pretty sure
no there's just nothing about him
it's been stated that noxus doesn't gain any sustenance from them
All we know is draedon saying that god essence disappears from dog's body
That is all we have
Really then I guess he could be sloth because he uses others for his own thing because he is lazy
does dog teleport the essence away for noxus
idk
we don't know yet
maybe the distortion as a whole gets it
And then void is gluttony
people theorize but nothing's confirmed
sick lore implications
we dont know enough yet
yeah kind of
i love draetalk
actualy not kind of its just sort of this
like its a neat headcanon i suppose but
i don't think it's intentional in the slightest
So we switch void and noxus i say then
draetalk 
it's sort of like
It tells nothing
⛈️ pokemon starter theories ⛈️
draedon is lust, im not explaining
true
(the audience shrivels up in horror)
not to popcorn
But he is not from the distortaion

lust for knowledge ?!⁉️
yeah
reference
That could work
no I was just
lust for knowledge holy shit reference
nvm
idk that refernefe
(i don't think that was a reference to my thing but i am gonna pretend it was)
it was
holy shit!
the thing
what if we gave draedon yharon's auric soul 
can draedon absorb an auric soul?
So what do y’all say about this head cannon now
Dog: pride
Noxus: sloth
Void: gluttony
Weaver: wrath
Signus: greed
holy shit ive figured it out guys
next update is 1.13 right
yess
update after that is 1.14 which adds trading
lazy ass mfer get your ass out of the distortion come throw hands
were totally gonna trade souls with draedon
actually since draedon likely doesn't have a soul of his own to merge with the auric soul would draedon do a perfect ascension by default??
it'd be like
can bro even have a soul
have the same result as a perfect ascencion but need a different method, maybe?
and with that said
See what I mean with the seven deadly sins
Also the show fell of hard
yeah
nahhh
it's just the dragon
well but
fr?
Dragon of dragons
I say he gives it to one of his mechs
one of his mechs is now the dragon
not really considering perfect ascension is basically the same and xeroc isn't the dragon?
dragon mech
he did and thats why he has noene ...
goes hard
well i think perfect ascencion specifically has to do with the souls being like perfectly in sync or something
do you think draedon has mad cash
in this case
fat stacks
draedon has like
oh yeah
no osul to beginw ith, right
osu!
from azafure
Noxus can't fulfil his dream of becoming the Dragon because xeroc and silva are still alive 💔
so it's literally just the dragon
also i don't think draedon has fat stacks but he can get fat stacks
he has fat stacks trust me
noxus just wants to roleplay as a dragon....
he told me
if he wants he can sell a single exo mech for like all tyhe money in the world or something
ew, we need to kill him
selling e xo mehcs for 3 robux
He can sell a single exo prism as a monthly subscription

3 robux😭
Literal infinite energy
this is terrible because they generate endless energy, he needs to rent them out
otherwise you could just buy one and never again
he needs that PASSIVE INCOME
they generate endless energy but the output is limited
that's why he has to make so many
Isn't renting the same thing as monthly
hehe .. .knew it would have purpose 
You pay some money every month to use it
thats like all 4 exos right there
fr
draedon turning into the king of capitalism
im gonna be draedon
yes but exo prisms are much higher capacity than sea prisms, and wtf would someone need to power that is as energy intensive as an exo mech lol
What a bargain!
he will use all his research to get draedillion dollars
one exo prism can probably power a house indefinitely
draedon could solve every crisis imaginable
yes that's what infinite energy tends to do
draedon put himself into an endless loop of
increase energy output -> make more machines with excess energy -> energy consumption skyrockets -> make more exo prisms -> increase energy output
society.
exo clicker
Thankfully dradeon is interested in science
If Draedon suddenly gained morality and actively became evil there would be literally no way of stopping him
he probably plays roblox simulators (not that i have ever in the past
)
if draedon gained morality I don't think he would be evil
I mean what makes him Draedon is the amorality
either tip of the scale and things are drastically different
if draedon was beholden to morality he would probably just be himself but very slightly nicer
Oh no life matters...I think I shall stop making big war machines
i think draedon would buy me cookies clicker becasue he liked it
cookie clicker is free
what.
nuh uh
check steam 
just go to google and type in cookie clicker?
isnt it a web game

googledeez
steam version has more content

not enough content in my endless farming idle game...
that was the joke
cookie clicker needs to add shjarks
2.2
years in the making
i left the gd community cuz i didn't have time to wait for 2.2 
uh oh
does that mean crags on 5 years 
8
dear lord
draedon would love dress to impress





ah yes when robtop chose to make everyone wait 8 years for literally anything instead of releasing smaller updates over time
idk how the game didnt lose its audience in that time
Cause people could make their own levels and so the content wouldn’t run out
Delete yourself 
not being an obnoxious asshole and posting a loud as fuck video is free yknow
Oh wait does it auto play for others
The community is just that good
everything ive seen points to the contrary
"at some point" is today, apparently
just got hit by a sudden burst of inspiration

850 words in 15-20 minutes is the best pace i've had in years i think
actually it's only 700 since i copied some stuff over from a different doc because it was pertinent, but still
more importantly i've actually managed to keep it organised so far
Good job
Had a dream last night that the Devourer of Gods is joining the marvel cinematic universe as lightning McQueen (they are the same character) with a whole transform scene where McQueen goes faster than light and extends into a giant cosmic worm
To unlock the ability to see the movie, you had to 100% Mario 3d world
What are the lore implications of my dream?
Devourer of Gods goes back to Old Lore and turns into Devourer of Universes.
i feel like this movie would've had to been made by the devourer himself because i can't imagine anything but a entity from the distortion making something like that
I can confirm that the credit to who was playing the Devourer at least was ‘himself’
No director was mentioned
100% 3d world? fuck that
one change i could make to scooge is to change the sharp teeth on the mandibles to molars because they're more meant for crushing
might look weird tho
Worst case scenario you go back to the sharp teeth so maybe test it out
uhhh
give his regular jaw human teeth
I don’t know what to think about the teeth on the mandibles as a whole
like just a png of human teeth
what else is it gonna use to turn its prey to mush
sledge hmmr
i mean
i don't think it needs teeth to do that
it ends up just sort of looking unnatural to me, personally. not saying its bad art or anything btw, but i'm not such a huge fan of the teeth
what could replace it then
One big block of tooth
well there's plenty of things i can think of
a rough, ossified end covered in hard scales, taht functions somewhat like a mantis shrimp's ''fists", if you wish to make it something that crushes
or maybe small bony protusions covering the entirety of the tip of the pinchers, acting as somewhat of a mace
like the teeth just make it look a bit too monstruous to me, it dosen't rly feel like smth that would naturally evolve in a wild animal
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I mean u can make the ends hooked
this version of scoog doesnt use its mandibles to hold prey in place
it uses them to crush prey in a single strike
tried that, looked odd
I finally got to writing my characters doc
I finished with the background before the game itself and I’m 700+ words in
This can get long
More
Good luck
protruding bone
Looks great
Like it a lot more
Not sure is that the best possible design but much better than teeth
its like smashing two rocks together i like
is that skin around the mandible as well,? close to the teeth
mandible things have skin
thats awesome
it's just the smashy part that has bone
its like it smashed its enemies so much the skin tore away to only bone
idk if thats supposed to be it but it just looks pretty sick
the skin just kinda doesnt grow there
I think that bone smash thing makes more sense than teeth
Since teeth can be more vulnerable compared to a clean piece of bone
I dont wanna be rude, but it looks kinda like a gaster blaster to me
i mean, it's only a head
and also
how would it get teeth there
like, outside of its mouth
i think there's a few animals that sort of do that
Also teeth feel weird
They can fall off
A chunk of bone can’t
Also I imagine sand getting between teeth is very inconvenient
damn
beef 
how does mew fishron fit into cal lore (i made it lol)
get help
butterfly devourer
maybe metastasis is one of the many outcomes for his growing hunger, but him metamorphosizing is another outcome
what are the lore implications of there being this many jungle bats
That the jungle bats overpopulate
or that the game just hates me
Yharon has been interbreeding
would explain how plague spreads so fast
Yeah
w a t
That’s dragonfolly not bats
It has wings, it can surely be done
What's the name of the Moon Lord and would EoC technically instead be named after it in the lore?
cthulu is just a term for large things in cal lore
and moonlord is moonlord, unless you're a really old person, then it's fovos. they are interchangable tho
i am actively making this worse 
EoC in calamity is unrelated to ML ye
It's just another evil biome spawn
Metastasis isnt literal
Metastasis is saying dog will end up dead or a husk of itself if it pursues power
It means if the devourer got out of control and did some funny business he'd be fucking killed
they said more about it
Me when I call Storm Weaver weak and able to get killed easily without ever realising I am currently in such a position:
The 3 sentinels thing dosent make much sense
they aren't sentinels anymore
Otherwise sounds cool
but yeah
Hi :3
Hewwo
Hello
Imagine if Noxus is still an egg.
noxus boss mod:
The planned update:
Noxus is an egg and DoG is just the babysitter
noxus will come out when she's ready🙏
But do you guys like my little metamorphosis rant?
suffer
☹️
mods, please kill this guy with hammers
Nugget mewron
☹️
Anyways you guys like my DoG rant or nah?
i do
It good, sentinel part a bit weird but yeah nice
Its a cool concept even if generally unfitting with the current info we have
this ain't even fishron anymore this is just a flesh bean with a face
We know nothing about dogs biology so it very well could be possible it can do that
Yeah
I imagined him looking similar to MV’s mothra
could still have him be wormlike by giving him a reeeaaaalllly long abdomen
ok im discussing lore with someone, is terrarian going to be like the 3rd most powerful entity in calamity lore by the end of the game, with fovos prime and xeroc being numbers 2 and 1?
can anyone bring up some good references for cool otherworldly looking moths and butterflies
fovos prime... 
If anyone wants to make a doodle of DoG’s “enlightened” form please ping me I want to see what you guys interpret as his perfect form :3
Ye p much
no terr will be stronger than noxus
Xeroc > ML > Terrarian > Noxus > Yharim
We don’t kill xeroc due to them being that strong with what we have
But the lore is up to you about terrarian
there it is
Ye but thos isnt abt the lore
ofc ik that but i mean in raw feats
I mean we don't know for sure that tman will be weaker than peak fovos
we just know peak fovos was stronger than nox
I vaguely remember a dev statement abt it but i migjt be wrong
On the note of Noxus I enjoy giving him the nickname of Misòs
Tbh we don’t know how Noxus dies, they could very well be above terrarian but still die
Which translates to hatred in Greek
i wasnt referring to noxus because ik terrarian can beat them, im talking about tierlist placement by postgame standards (if we refer to everything after yharim as post game), based on lore,i t seems xeroc and fovos prime are the most powerful calamity figures so i think player will be around that point at the end
Could arguably switch terrarian and ml around but ifs honestly subjective
although xeroc is something beyond us
numbers might be outdated
new prime soul just dropped??
idk
lmao
gotcha
yeah I'd say it's probably possible for peak terrarian to beat peak fovos ngl
I’d say fovos is still above us if they were in their prime, they fought a civilisation of dragons
But we could win with skill
Maybe
Anyone make any art of enlightenment form DoG? I really want to see how you guys interpret his enlightened form :0
Ok!
I think they could probably beat xeroc but xeroc is too good at evasion and mobility in ways we can't be
giving him a sangheli mouth because why not
Kk
yoo
PRIME /// CRESCENDO
A TERRIBLE FATE
If omnis calcs are accurate, scal is like high city while xeroc is country
I was planning to do that for my interpretation of the theoretical wormlamity final boss
the sangheili mouth I mean
Oke
I think powerscalinf xeroc is impossible rn bc we just
Dont have enoufh info
specifically the h2a variant
Im not a powerscaler though so
bc it can close

They used the sunlight hitting the planet to cal it
omni has done it before
all i basically know is "he stronk, you aint killing him"
powerscaling xeroc I mean
Isn’t Xeroc able to just re manifest every single opponent you’ve killed? (Boss rush)
Isn’t noxus the most destructive character though
Yes
Yes
if gods can die, i wouldnt call xeroc immortal. it's just that we lack the means to ever do enough damage to kill him.
I'm pretty sure the only reason the terrarian can't beat xeroc by the end of the game is that xeroc can simply escape at any time
sever the link
i assume that's some kinda ritual nonsense
Then we must force a descent
perfect ascension
if we dont have the ritual to auric ascend off of yharon's soul then we prolyl lack the means to do other soul nonsense for calamity lore
Otherwise yharim would have separated the dragons from the gods
i mean
cant he burn a good part of the planet
maybe
im pretty sure xeroc can kill all known entities in calamity
we Don't Really Know™️
what if xeroc pulled an SCP 001 WDB
pretty easily
Likely
I doubt Noxus will be easy
yeah peak moonlord and noxus will be a challenge
but he could still kill them
Yeah
I think with the way the terrarian tends to work, they can just dodge him and keep whittling him down forever. The reason I think he still can't be killed by the terrarian is because he can just, leave the fight at any time
so basically it's a draw
Uhhh, people get harsher sun burns
is terrarian faster than light tho 
Debatable
i mean what stops xeroc from just flashing the screen into making you "blind" and then hitting you with one shot kill laser
We don’t know if primordial light travelers light speed
It’s prob something like a spar with xeroc
Can he beat Kirby though?
No.
kirby's killed worse
Nothing beats Kirby.
yeag
im pretty sure void termina would obliterate xeroc
kirby is a higher deity
Can he beat any of the greater gods Kirby has faced
kirby is like goku
I mean think about it in the game, the terrarian never does more damage to their enemies percentage wise than they do to the terrarian. The terrarian isn't very tanky at all. They are a glass canon who's extremely skilled at dodging
he always wins
i think xeroc is at most like, star level
void termina (which kirby and a few friends blew up) was set on being a disaster to the entire universe iirc
Yep
the terraria's main strengths are agility and raw destructive power, not physical endurance
lmao xeroc is like
continent level
made a noxus sketch because why not
Not even that, calamity maxes at like continent level
or country level actually
golem prime 
but either way, xeroc lands like 2 hits on kirby, kirby then either just eats him and see what primoridal light copy ability looks like, or he spits a star at xeroc and somehow olbiterates him in just like 12 shots
I don’t powerscale :3
This is just Void Termina but with a blackhole as its face instead.
Yeah Kirby wins
Eaten
Is that lore accurate?
Ok
i think it'd make sense though for a god to be able to tap into the likeness of the dragon they merged with
time to repost my xeroc again
Do you think Kirby and Yharon would be good buddies?
red outdated 
i love that xeroc's post ascension design aint public because that means we can make our own and you can't call it "inaccurate" cause we have nothing to base it off of yet
yellow now
Reminds me of something else as well as void termina
yharon isn't outright evil so i think they'd have a rough start but could eventually become chill
is everything void termina to you
Looks sick
iirc atleast
yharon is biased
I mean kirby is the protagonist ofc he will win everytime
as in he is fine in genociding people who worships gods
kirby when I use a memetic device to wipe him simultaneously from everyone's brain and the internet forever (fuck that stupid pink ball he's not multiverse level he's just a fucking ball that can eat things)
wasnt yharon also partially why yharim decided to start this whole fiasco
❌
Yharon is better then yharim but still bad right now, though with his age it very well could be like having his friends and family dying 29 days ago we don’t know
Yeah he is a major part
yharon if he was reborn in 2024
you're just a little hater sorry................
yharim wouldve probably been kinda fucked even if he didnt meet yharon
but yharon made him so much worse
maybe the next time he reincarnates once this whole mess is over he can try to live a normal life
or atleast as normal a life as the last known auric dragon can get
Bro would’ve burned to death in lava
i mean, yharon is very intelligent
so
imagine if he started a lawmowing business or something when he reincarnated lmao
do you guys think that yharon is the last dragon for real or that there are others who in hiding (asking about personal headcanons, i am aware that im pretty sure yharon's the last one in conventional lore)
Maybe???
i doubt he's the only one left in the entire universe
actually who knows, maybe there are different worlds with world souls and auric dragons and gods
i wish we could know if auric dragons are just a terraria thing or if multiple worlds have them
(terraria as in the planet the game takes place on
maybe mars has a few lmao
dragon for every element on the periodic table
neon dragon
he just looks cool
imagine being a god of neon
you just
make cool signs appear
Bromine dragon
Don’t… don’t go near it please
it can be done, it'll just be vague
most difficult god for yharim to kill
oh true
Evaporate
i dont know if the heat of yharon's flames are ever specified but they freaking HURT even in endgame armor
You kill anahita
Yeah but that’s due to them being an elemental not due to being water
Dragonfire
the only way to kill the elementals is to rid the entire world of their domain
fair enough
anahitahater301 on their way to evaporate all water on earth
well not even
water would still exist then just in a different form
since terrarians (aka humans) have a bucnh of water in their bodies
yeah that aint happening chief
anahitahater301 on their way to erase all water on earth za hando style
so in order to kill silva you need to 


Clouds aren't part of Anahita's domain.
Doesnt silva need every other living thing gone for them to die, due to being goddess of life
i thought silva wasnt an elemental but a goddess of the life element
As anahitahater301, I am going to turn all water into clouds, permanently.
you'll make cloudy stronger!
Why didn’t Anahita just freeze all the water in the Terrarian’s body, is she stupid
Silva is a elemental that ascended
Wait she’s an elemental don’t answer that
oh very cool
or evaporate it
Good. It just so happens my alternate account is called "cloudylover705"
She is also the only other god to perfect ascend like xeroc
What a plot twist
what is the difference from usual god ascension and "perfect ascension"
wouldnt it also basically be impossible to kill brimstone elemental
You keep the same domain as the auric soul you took it from.
Perfect ascensions have the same domain as the dragon they absorb
it's basically impossible to kill all elementals yeah
like
And considering the two examples of it are silva and xeroc, it’s likely much stronger
so basically it's like exponentially multiplying what you get or something ig?
i will fight the ocean
brimstone - you need to get rid of all the fire in the world
cloudy - you need to get rid of all the air in the world
anahita - you need to get rid of all the water in the world
you get the point
Silva- follow providences plan
Water, Earth, Fire, Air.
auric ore elemental
Oh sadge ive got the lore real mixed up in my campaign then :c
That would fall under sandy
also what would providence have done after killing all life
Since they’re the earth elemental
Suicide
anahita: "I'm so powerful"
me drinking water:
Kill herself.
if providence somehow accomplished the Impossible Task of killing every single living being
i think she'd just
go lich
rahhh

nah she'd burn herself too
no she would definitely suicide\
do yall think we'll ever actually be able to find silva at the bottom of the abyss eventually
ik we'll prolly not be able to pull her to the surface or anything but atleast see like a plant cocoon or something and if interacted "you faintly hear twitching movements"
Ultron in that What-If
yess
now what?
iirc
We do, she is planty mush
also if providence killed all life she would also kill silva
tye corpse woll be added
We use her in armour
mostly plants
drains abyss
i thought her corpse decomposed already
i thought that was just her essence seeping out and affecting the place
she isn't outright dead so her actual body is SOMEWHERE i think
I disagree because it literally 100% conflicts with her entire motivation
and then when simon and fionna and cake arrive he dosent even try to kill them hes just like
ok Lol
see lich also
had that motivation
Fair, though she did get beat to a pulp by yharim so her actual remains very well could also look like random plant goop
but once he actualy accomplished it
he felt no satisfaction
his entire work was for Nothing because he got Nothing out of it
so i think its plausible something similar could happen to provi
(plus its cool as fuck watch fionna and acke its peak
providence has some other context behind her motivation though
it does looko cool
You're conflating goal with motivation.
We don't know her motivations for killing everything.
ik it wont happen but can you imagine the dryad's reaciton if terrarian just strolled back to town with a comically drenched goddess elemental following them
"whatcha got there"
"some scoria ore"
We just know she wants to.
Providence if she gets a bit bored may just suicide since her ideology is suffering of any kind is worse then death
Would be funny
since the terrarian's lore is up to everyone's interpretation i interpet them as some chaotic neutral menace to society who somehow keeps climbing the power ladder
i had an idea like that
We do though, she is like nihilistic and so against pain and suffering she wants to end all life so nothing can suffer
Fair enough
That is what her followers think. Not what she believes.
Oh
The best cult leaders spew bullshit they don't believe in.
something something frenzied flame elden ring
Could b real
i think
idk i haven't played it
a bit much stating it as if it was outright fact
Thought it was canon nvm
i've been told that statis will eventually be encounterable as a travelling shopkeeper npc
wonder if he has any unique lore to give, or any special dialogue if you have his equipment on you (like statis belt)
talking abt the claim that she
Oh ok
dosen't actually believe the nihilism thing
like there's no basis for that, as much as i think it is a possible headcanon, just shouldn't be stated as fact
we see Dryad turning into a tree in the credits after moon lord dies
what if the Terrarian is able to resurrect Silva by turning her into a tree as well
the next time Dryad leaves her house she finds a ginormous tree
"Why did you plant such a massive tree outside my house, Terrarian?"
"That's Silva."
"WHA-"
he won't be a shopkeeper
oh
he'll give you quests
that's cool
He will have an entire quest line that ends with him tasking us to kill signus, he is also gay for braelor
signus round 2??
No
reworked i imagine
Signus rework
progression
The sentinels have not been sentinels since the rewrite
i think the lore has changed a while ago
ik they aren't actual sentinels anymore
i just call them that for simplicity
you know i'm referring to void, weaver, and signus
none of the ''sentinels" are gonna be fought the way they are now
because like
they're essentially glorified minibosses
they're gonna have Actual Identity
yea'
They’re all related to the distortion, ceaseless will grant access to the distortion subworld
i remember somewhere saying that ceaseless is like a living portal to the distortion so maybe killing him is how you get there
Yes
but ye
hyes a portal
you fight him and you get access to the distortion, atleast part of it
well SOMETHING makes him able to shoot dark matter at you and kill you
killing devourer unlocks another part
i just interpret it as unstability
i dont think its
It’s a portal that has a concerning amount of energy put into it that and lunatic cultist put a spell on it
actually sentient and targetting you
i think its just unstable + the seal on it is probably fighting back to stop it from being unsealed
Pretty sure it’s the seel on it
ye
The boss barely targets the player in any way, too.
Theres lasers that sometimes are shot towards the player and that is it.
ceaseless is straight up just An Object and i think that's funny
The rest of the fight would function the same with or without the player.
what is LC's lore reason for capturing mechanic in calamity? cause in calamity, LC is keeping fovos back instead of perpetuating his return
new post moon lord boss
cosmilite chair
auric toilet secret boss fight
They don’t like trespassers so it may be that
Old man trespassed and they cursed him, she may have and was in trouble
we already have a boss that is an literal object, its not impossible...
We don't know. Could just be that they don't want Mechanic going too far down into the Dungeon, like the Clothier.
in original terraria lore it seems like they grbabed mechanic so she could make things for them
oooh wait
Yeah, she was being forced to make mech replacements of Cthulhu damaged body parts and didn’t finish brain by the time we save her
what if it's the same kinda seal as cryogen, just unstable from the amount of force it's exerting
(flesh prison and flesh panopticon from ultrakill fr
TRUEEE
I mean maybe? Cryogen was made by scal so I doubt she would match the mastery of the lunatic cultist with not brimstone magics
But it’s not impossible they’re very similiar
it still ended up in similar results: something made to contain something else, and is able to protect itself
Yeah
imagine if calamitas tried to cryogen the player but the player goes "this prison.. to hold... ME?!" and breaks out
Maybe the box we’re in during the fight is like a better version of it
"But it refused."
Have you seen the cryogen eternity fight? Perma breaks out to throw hands iirc
havent reached that far in eternity mode, so nope!
what 😭
@vale notch spent too much time on the wings, guh
eyes
i kinda just threw it together without planning
maybe somebody can draw and improve it?
i dont have much experience on moth or butterfly design
like
he can put a decent crater on the moon
🤷♂️
so probably
Nah what Yharon could blow up a moon 😭
It’s not dbz power levels
it's literally says "If I had to give every cal character a dbz power level"
Wise Xeroc ain’t even full moon level
yeag
Well, Xeroc isn’t as strong as moon level
holy shit it's sir gideon ofnir the all-knowing
Maybe back then it was but now, Xeroc isn’t even moon level
hii
yeah but just judging off that one post just for fun technically Yharon would be moon level
I know for a fact that Cei wasn't considering that, but even then it's not like it matters much really, they're just random power levels Cei made for funsies
if you were following dbz levels
but in reality like yall said yeah
no way
still it's kinda fun to think about
i love fun
Once upon a time, skibidaddle bibibaddle
perish.
Heart plus up! Canonically scales below cv, what will be theirs impocations
pringleversal
Explains so much
There’s this catlamitas image someone made that weren’t me
popcorn
Ok
dissipate
my honest reaction
Cool worm dragon thing
Why are you saying this can beat nameless
Dalamadur silly
joke thing about an early game boss
Some sillies
Oh ok

"early boss is actually a beyond godly entity" type joke
Minecraft zombie solos nameless diety
I will drop a brick on you
Dalamadur VS Zeratros
the serpent king vs the dragon king
most likely
it can reshape the earth's crust with a twitch of its muscles, casually take down entire mountains, and is considered a very powerful monster even compared to the likes of Shara Ishvalda (multi-continent level crustal vibrations) and Amatsu (supernatural storms)
it also summons meteor-like objects out of the sky somehow
Yeah it wins
Monster hunter scaling is just higher then calamity’s
depends
like this is mainly for elder dragons
anything below elder dragon level doesn't really reach small town level even
Oh, big jump in power then I see
the reason elders are busted is because they are capable of manipulating environments
in many ways
like through weather manipulation for example
the weakest elder dragon is capable of causing thunderstorms with its mere existence
the ones I mention here are also quite high tier
Ah ok
i want to pet it
So calamity is generally not far behind monster hunter then with elder dragons it starts getting quite above calamity?
Amatsu is one of the strongest monsters in mainline, Shara Ishvalda is considered nigh-unrivaled in any ecosystem except for monsters such as Ruiner Nergigante, Dalamadur has been implied to be a world-ending potential threat
manor hunter
yea
and even then the average elder dragon is large island level, it's high tier elder dragons (shara ishvalda and above) where elder dragons get too strong
I do wonder what would be fair fights for calamity vs monster hunter stuff then
I wish calamity bosses could fair well with high end elder dragons but for now most calamity characters get beaten by things like Teostra, who can cause dangerous heatwaves that span entire regions (calced at large island level)
most monster hunter monsters that you hunt are just like
normal animals
admittedly
insanely powerful normal animals
Maybe xeroc and noxus will be able to if they get better feats in the future but rn idk
So mostly stuff like pre hardmode bosses
aka high end elder dragons 
it's kinda odd I'll admit, cause MH's fantasy levels are kinda not that high when compared to calamity, because MH takes heavy inspirations from irl creatures and phenomenons therefore keeping itself grounded, but elder dragons kinda break that part because they are most often inspired by natural events in the scale of storms and earthquakes rather than more grounded things like a feline or a fish
And then things I’m surprised they haven’t ended the world
most elder dragons, not just high end ones, the high end ones are the most extreme though
i think some of the strongest monsters that fall under the "technically just a normal animal" side of things are like
deviljho and rajang and some elders on the lower end of things
i think deviljho would pull off being a hardmode boss
post ml really would just be high end elders
rajang eats the kirin horn, the horn is what kirin uses to cause thunderstorms so that's funny
but i feel like deviljho and rajang could pull off hardmode
Including ml?
mh powerscaling is funny cause normally it isn't a powerful verse
but then when you consider elder dragons it gets kinda odd
Kirin, who's the weakest elder dragon does what I said, trigger thunderstorms passively as well as control the lightning in them
imagine a animal
a animal that is incredibly fucking efficient at hunting
but it's so efficient
that it needs a insane amount of energy to mantain its body
its hunger fucks up entire ecosystems
So kirin equal to storm weaver?
pretty much
its like
one of the most efficient predators in the world
and
deviljho basically is
a evolutionary dead end
yea
he's so strong trhat he fucks up his own ecosystem and then has to act as a invasive species to survive by fucking up other ecosystems
I like the theory of deviljho going towards extinction, it just makes sense
How is monster hunter world even alive
oh yeah i 100% believe it
i think jho realistically is gonna be extinct in like
10 years max, in universe
because things like elder dragons are quite rare
its a species that quite literally relies on being invasive and destroying ecosystems to survive
and the few monsters that could straight up end the world are even more so
as omni said elders r pretty rare
hunter's entire thing is hunting the monsters when they do actually threaten the enviroment
like in MH the humans are just as much as part of the ecosystem as the monsters
how od you blow up water
Probably stuff like rancor
the one monster that has fully been confirmed to have the power needed to destroy everything by itself is Fatalis for all I could find, at least in mainline, and Fatalis only appeared once over 1000 years ago, ended a country overnight, that country managed to make Fatalis stop its rampage before being entirely destroyed and yea
then after those years passed we fought Fatalis and fully defeated it by ourselves
Or supernova
vaporize?
or just disperse it
Disperse works
or even just stop it
fatalis is one of the few monsters i'd argue is actually like fucking evil
uhh idk
also idk
Fatalis is an oddball
I wonder if there’s anything that can let us scale noxus
fatalis is a Mystery by itself but
while its actions would definitely be fucked up
Noxus is black hole level ong
Fujioka (one of the series' leads and writer) thinks that Fatalis doesn't have an intent of pure destruction more than it isn't really understandable and has intentions not meant to be known to us
so that's interesting
So basically
personally I just think that Fatalis is a monster that operates on such a scale that we can't really understand
lovecraftian horror type motivation 
like it's seen as Evil by us but that's because it's Incomprehensible
yea
to us, erasing an entire country region thing is a horrific tragedy, to Fatalis it may just be the equivalent of something much more simple
Except poking it with iron swords kills it instead of it erasing 17 concepts from the universe cause of our audacity
Like waking up and doing a stretch?
could be
either that or it could be like
I know that Forbidden Monsters, specifically Alatreon, are stated to have a planetary sense of territory
Guys I wrote myself into a corner
I don’t have a win condition against Anahita that isn’t just “evaporate the ocean”
Evaporate her
I’m not ready to write a “colonize the ex-ocean floor” arc

and that Alatreon sought for Safi'jiiva to kill it because it was growing too strong, and because Safi'jiiva exists and is that strong, Alatreon must take it down or else its planet-wide territory may be challenged
Fatalis may also see the entire world as its land, therefore something growing in power may be seen as a challenge to this territory of its
uh
subatomize the ocean
:3
last thing before I get on topic
so
Makes sense
what we may see as a horrific destruction event, to Fatalis it's just defending its territory
at the same time this may not be the most consistent thing in the world cause why would Fatalis and Alatreon not clash at this point, maybe it's because they have co-existed for a long time?
Idk
anyways
back on topic
oh my god how the hell did i not notice on the arms on that thing
To be fair it is quite dark in the abyss
I’d say I’ll take a page out of Calamitas’ book, but I don’t know how she put the Brimstone Elemental to sleep. Not to mention doing so permanently altered the landscape
Calamitas didn’t even do that, it was a tie they were equally harmed
Is there anything we have to scale noxus or is it just, stronger then yharim
honestly that must have felt terrible for cal simultaneously saving her kingdom from brimmy and leaving everything in ruins :(
Yeah, she yells at you if you put her in the crags
For now it's really just "stronger than Yharim" yea
Alright then
So did they both just run out of juice
How tf does the brimstone elemental run out of juice in the underworld
You are surrounded by the juice
Simple, she strong and so it’s like being surrounded by five rice grains when hungry, could prob help but it’s not much for you
Damn alright I gotta make my Terrarian win a battle of attrition against the ocean
Without destroying the ecosystem
Yeah good luck
honestly i think apart from the mental fight against how horribly painful debuffs are i think terraria boss fights would also be exhausting as all hell with how hectic they get
Fantasy worlds means fantasy levels of stamina.
Pretend that this message is a moon lord fade in gif
Do you not have the gif
I technically do but I'm not digging that deep into my favorites
It’s the first thing that pops up when you search for moon lord in the discord gif thing
What even is this calamitous image
that was in fact, calamitous
i think its a workshop reskin for lucy the axe
How does the terrarian gain nutrition tho
Nerd
The terrarian just eats everything he kills and puts in the trash slot

there's gotta be someone with a terrarian that eats blood sacrifices to sustain themselves right
probably
See, the thing with Elders to me is that
I feel like the vast majority of them don't create those natural events, or at least were never meant to
They just follow them
