#lore-discussion

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spring helm
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are we doing the lust argument again

magic epoch
dusk laurel
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not again

hot valve
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No thanks

sudden ruin
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weaver is gluttony because in infernum he goes nom nom on tha harpies hehe

soft geyser
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Are those distortaion dudes because we only counting distortion ones

magic epoch
soft geyser
dusk laurel
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its just the 5

soft geyser
hot valve
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I wonder when we find out if DoG is properly hive minded or if he is seperated but loyal enough

real silo
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We don't know what noxus does with the essence

soft geyser
sudden ruin
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what about the gays

soft geyser
real silo
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no there's just nothing about him

warm gull
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it's been stated that noxus doesn't gain any sustenance from them

real silo
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All we know is draedon saying that god essence disappears from dog's body

warm gull
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or dog doesn't at least idk

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since dog probably sends the essence to noxus

soft geyser
sudden ruin
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does dog teleport the essence away for noxus

dusk laurel
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idk

real silo
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we don't know yet

dusk laurel
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maybe the distortion as a whole gets it

soft geyser
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And then void is gluttony

real silo
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people theorize but nothing's confirmed

sudden ruin
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sick lore implications

dusk laurel
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we dont know enough yet

pliant ruin
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yeah kind of

sudden ruin
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i love draetalk

pliant ruin
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actualy not kind of its just sort of this

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like its a neat headcanon i suppose but

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i don't think it's intentional in the slightest

soft geyser
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So we switch void and noxus i say then

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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it's sort of like

real silo
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It tells nothing

pliant ruin
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⛈️ pokemon starter theories ⛈️

spring helm
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draedon is lust, im not explaining

real silo
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true

pliant ruin
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(the audience shrivels up in horror)

real silo
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not to popcorn

soft geyser
spring helm
warm gull
spring helm
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yeah

warm gull
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reference

soft geyser
warm gull
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no I was just

pliant ruin
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lust for knowledge holy shit reference

warm gull
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nvm

sudden ruin
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idk that refernefe

pliant ruin
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(i don't think that was a reference to my thing but i am gonna pretend it was)

warm gull
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it was

pliant ruin
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holy shit!

spring helm
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the thing

dusk laurel
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what if we gave draedon yharon's auric soul clueless

warm gull
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can draedon absorb an auric soul?

soft geyser
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So what do y’all say about this head cannon now

Dog: pride
Noxus: sloth
Void: gluttony
Weaver: wrath
Signus: greed

sudden ruin
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next update is 1.13 right

dusk laurel
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yess

pliant ruin
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noxus sloth seems

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oddly fitting

sudden ruin
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update after that is 1.14 which adds trading

pliant ruin
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lazy ass mfer get your ass out of the distortion come throw hands

sudden ruin
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were totally gonna trade souls with draedon

warm gull
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actually since draedon likely doesn't have a soul of his own to merge with the auric soul would draedon do a perfect ascension by default??

pliant ruin
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it'd be like

sudden ruin
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can bro even have a soul

pliant ruin
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have the same result as a perfect ascencion but need a different method, maybe?

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and with that said

soft geyser
pliant ruin
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if he gave himself an auric soul

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wouldn't he just like

soft geyser
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Also the show fell of hard

pliant ruin
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Turn into the Dragon

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given like

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he has no soul in there

warm gull
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yeah

sudden ruin
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nahhh

pliant ruin
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it's just the dragon

warm gull
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well but

sudden ruin
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fr?

real silo
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Dragon of dragons

soft geyser
pliant ruin
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one of his mechs is now the dragon

warm gull
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not really considering perfect ascension is basically the same and xeroc isn't the dragon?

dusk laurel
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dragon mech

sudden ruin
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he did and thats why he has noene ...

dusk laurel
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goes hard

pliant ruin
warm gull
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do you think draedon has mad cash

pliant ruin
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in this case

warm gull
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fat stacks

pliant ruin
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draedon has like

sudden ruin
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oh yeah

pliant ruin
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no osul to beginw ith, right

spring helm
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he spent it all

sudden ruin
dusk laurel
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from azafure

real silo
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Noxus can't fulfil his dream of becoming the Dragon because xeroc and silva are still alive 💔

pliant ruin
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so it's literally just the dragon

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also i don't think draedon has fat stacks but he can get fat stacks

sudden ruin
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he has fat stacks trust me

warm gull
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noxus just wants to roleplay as a dragon....

sudden ruin
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he told me

pliant ruin
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if he wants he can sell a single exo mech for like all tyhe money in the world or something

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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selling e xo mehcs for 3 robux

real silo
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He can sell a single exo prism as a monthly subscription

sudden ruin
dusk laurel
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3 robux😭

real silo
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Literal infinite energy

warm gull
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otherwise you could just buy one and never again

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he needs that PASSIVE INCOME

spring helm
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they generate endless energy but the output is limited

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that's why he has to make so many

real silo
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Isn't renting the same thing as monthly

sudden ruin
real silo
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You pay some money every month to use it

dusk laurel
sudden ruin
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fr

pliant ruin
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draedon turning into the king of capitalism

sudden ruin
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im gonna be draedon

warm gull
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yes but exo prisms are much higher capacity than sea prisms, and wtf would someone need to power that is as energy intensive as an exo mech lol

real silo
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What a bargain!

pliant ruin
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he will use all his research to get draedillion dollars

warm gull
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one exo prism can probably power a house indefinitely

real silo
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He will make

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The draedon bar

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stronger than miracle matter

hot valve
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draedon could solve every crisis imaginable

warm gull
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yes that's what infinite energy tends to do

spring helm
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draedon put himself into an endless loop of

increase energy output -> make more machines with excess energy -> energy consumption skyrockets -> make more exo prisms -> increase energy output

dusk laurel
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society.

warm gull
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cookie clicker

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the duality of man

dusk laurel
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exo clicker

sudden ruin
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wait ive said this before

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draedon would enjoy cookie clicker

hot valve
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Thankfully dradeon is interested in science

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If Draedon suddenly gained morality and actively became evil there would be literally no way of stopping him

dusk laurel
warm gull
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if draedon gained morality I don't think he would be evil

hot valve
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I mean what makes him Draedon is the amorality

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either tip of the scale and things are drastically different

warm gull
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if draedon was beholden to morality he would probably just be himself but very slightly nicer

hot valve
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Oh no life matters...I think I shall stop making big war machines

sudden ruin
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i think draedon would buy me cookies clicker becasue he liked it

warm gull
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cookie clicker is free

dusk laurel
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what.

sudden ruin
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nuh uh

dusk laurel
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check steam XD

warm gull
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just go to google and type in cookie clicker?

spring helm
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isnt it a web game

sudden ruin
warm gull
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web version

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yeah

dusk laurel
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the number?

warm gull
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googledeez

sudden ruin
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steam version has more content

dusk laurel
warm gull
dusk laurel
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how is it not enough XD

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can you not be satiated? XD

warm gull
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that was the joke

pliant ruin
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cookie clicker needs to add shjarks

dusk laurel
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omg

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i rember this

sudden ruin
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2.2

dusk laurel
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years in the making

sudden ruin
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my whole fucking life in the making

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exaggerating but

dusk laurel
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i left the gd community cuz i didn't have time to wait for 2.2 SAD

sudden ruin
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2.1 released when i was like 8 or soemthing maybe younger

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ok maybe not idk time

dusk laurel
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wait...

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sso is 2.1...

sudden ruin
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uh oh

dusk laurel
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does that mean crags on 5 years XD

sudden ruin
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8

dusk laurel
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dear lord

patent cargo
scenic olive
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whats the bountiful harvest was about

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i only remember this guy

split mortar
hoary berry
mighty zenith
manic summit
hoary berry
glacial rampart
# sudden ruin

ah yes when robtop chose to make everyone wait 8 years for literally anything instead of releasing smaller updates over time

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idk how the game didnt lose its audience in that time

split mortar
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Cause people could make their own levels and so the content wouldn’t run out

untold oracle
split mortar
empty dew
glacial rampart
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not being an obnoxious asshole and posting a loud as fuck video is free yknow

split mortar
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Oh wait does it auto play for others

untold oracle
glacial rampart
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everything ive seen points to the contrary

hoary berry
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"at some point" is today, apparently
just got hit by a sudden burst of inspiration

empty dew
hoary berry
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850 words in 15-20 minutes is the best pace i've had in years i think

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actually it's only 700 since i copied some stuff over from a different doc because it was pertinent, but still

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more importantly i've actually managed to keep it organised so far

split mortar
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Good job

hot valve
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Had a dream last night that the Devourer of Gods is joining the marvel cinematic universe as lightning McQueen (they are the same character) with a whole transform scene where McQueen goes faster than light and extends into a giant cosmic worm
To unlock the ability to see the movie, you had to 100% Mario 3d world

What are the lore implications of my dream?

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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i feel like this movie would've had to been made by the devourer himself because i can't imagine anything but a entity from the distortion making something like that

hot valve
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No director was mentioned

random mulch
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one change i could make to scooge is to change the sharp teeth on the mandibles to molars because they're more meant for crushing

might look weird tho

split mortar
random mulch
mighty zenith
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give his regular jaw human teeth

untold oracle
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I don’t know what to think about the teeth on the mandibles as a whole

mighty zenith
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like just a png of human teeth

random mulch
dusk laurel
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sledge hmmr

pliant ruin
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i mean

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i don't think it needs teeth to do that

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it ends up just sort of looking unnatural to me, personally. not saying its bad art or anything btw, but i'm not such a huge fan of the teeth

random mulch
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what could replace it then

split mortar
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One big block of tooth

untold oracle
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Make it spiky or smth

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Just remove the teeth ig

pliant ruin
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well there's plenty of things i can think of
a rough, ossified end covered in hard scales, taht functions somewhat like a mantis shrimp's ''fists", if you wish to make it something that crushes
or maybe small bony protusions covering the entirety of the tip of the pinchers, acting as somewhat of a mace

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like the teeth just make it look a bit too monstruous to me, it dosen't rly feel like smth that would naturally evolve in a wild animal

random mulch
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sleek halo
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I mean u can make the ends hooked

random mulch
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this version of scoog doesnt use its mandibles to hold prey in place

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it uses them to crush prey in a single strike

sleek halo
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crushing?

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u want conical wide teeth

random mulch
untold oracle
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I finally got to writing my characters doc

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I finished with the background before the game itself and I’m 700+ words in

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This can get long

spring helm
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More

split mortar
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Good luck

pliant ruin
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alternatively (tail

random mulch
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protruding bone

split mortar
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Looks great

untold oracle
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Like it a lot more

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Not sure is that the best possible design but much better than teeth

sudden ruin
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its like smashing two rocks together i like

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is that skin around the mandible as well,? close to the teeth

random mulch
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mandible things have skin

sudden ruin
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thats awesome

random mulch
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it's just the smashy part that has bone

sudden ruin
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its like it smashed its enemies so much the skin tore away to only bone

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idk if thats supposed to be it but it just looks pretty sick

random mulch
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the skin just kinda doesnt grow there

untold oracle
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I think that bone smash thing makes more sense than teeth

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Since teeth can be more vulnerable compared to a clean piece of bone

bleak heron
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I dont wanna be rude, but it looks kinda like a gaster blaster to me

random mulch
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i mean, it's only a head

pliant ruin
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how would it get teeth there

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like, outside of its mouth

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i think there's a few animals that sort of do that

untold oracle
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Also teeth feel weird

pliant ruin
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but usually it still originates from the jaws somehow

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like narwhals

untold oracle
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They can fall off

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A chunk of bone can’t

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Also I imagine sand getting between teeth is very inconvenient

solar wharf
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damn

violet sparrow
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teef

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sorry

dusk laurel
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beef clueless

random mulch
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how does mew fishron fit into cal lore (i made it lol)

dusk laurel
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terrible

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☹️

violet sparrow
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get help

random mulch
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no

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i'm gonna get un-help to make worse things in the future

untold bluff
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has anyone ever thought about this idea before

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would go so hard for a fan design

gaunt sluice
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butterfly devourer

frozen zodiac
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maybe metastasis is one of the many outcomes for his growing hunger, but him metamorphosizing is another outcome

gaunt sluice
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what are the lore implications of there being this many jungle bats

split mortar
gaunt sluice
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or that the game just hates me

split mortar
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Both

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Especially hating you

brittle kraken
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Yharon has been interbreeding

gaunt sluice
split mortar
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Yeah

gaunt sluice
split mortar
brittle kraken
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It has wings, it can surely be done

ionic fjord
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What's the name of the Moon Lord and would EoC technically instead be named after it in the lore?

dusk laurel
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cthulu is just a term for large things in cal lore

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and moonlord is moonlord, unless you're a really old person, then it's fovos. they are interchangable tho

random mulch
pliant ruin
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It's just another evil biome spawn

split mortar
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Metastasis is saying dog will end up dead or a husk of itself if it pursues power

pliant ruin
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It means if the devourer got out of control and did some funny business he'd be fucking killed

untold bluff
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they said more about it

indigo glade
pliant ruin
dusk laurel
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they aren't sentinels anymore

pliant ruin
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Otherwise sounds cool

untold bluff
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but yeah

vale notch
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Hi :3

pliant ruin
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Hewwo

split mortar
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Hello

indigo glade
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Imagine if Noxus is still an egg.

untold bluff
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noxus boss mod:

vale notch
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The planned update:

pliant ruin
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Noxus is an egg and DoG is just the babysitter

warm gull
dusk laurel
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noxus is a grown up DoG XD

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that's really lazy

vale notch
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But do you guys like my little metamorphosis rant?

random mulch
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suffer

dusk laurel
untold bluff
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mods, please kill this guy with hammers

vale notch
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That’s it you guys just lost DoG metamorphosis privileges

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:(

split mortar
dusk laurel
vale notch
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Anyways you guys like my DoG rant or nah?

untold bluff
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i do

split mortar
pliant ruin
vale notch
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Yeah

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Sentinel part I was iffy about but I just went with it

warm gull
split mortar
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We know nothing about dogs biology so it very well could be possible it can do that

vale notch
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Yeah

untold bluff
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hang on im doodling

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nah wait what if he was a moth instead

vale notch
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I imagined him looking similar to MV’s mothra

warm gull
golden oasis
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ok im discussing lore with someone, is terrarian going to be like the 3rd most powerful entity in calamity lore by the end of the game, with fovos prime and xeroc being numbers 2 and 1?

untold bluff
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can anyone bring up some good references for cool otherworldly looking moths and butterflies

vale notch
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If anyone wants to make a doodle of DoG’s “enlightened” form please ping me I want to see what you guys interpret as his perfect form :3

pliant ruin
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Ye p much

warm gull
pliant ruin
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Xeroc > ML > Terrarian > Noxus > Yharim

split mortar
dusk laurel
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there it is

pliant ruin
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Ye but thos isnt abt the lore

golden oasis
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ofc ik that but i mean in raw feats

warm gull
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we just know peak fovos was stronger than nox

pliant ruin
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I vaguely remember a dev statement abt it but i migjt be wrong

vale notch
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On the note of Noxus I enjoy giving him the nickname of Misòs

split mortar
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Tbh we don’t know how Noxus dies, they could very well be above terrarian but still die

vale notch
golden oasis
# warm gull no terr will be stronger than noxus

i wasnt referring to noxus because ik terrarian can beat them, im talking about tierlist placement by postgame standards (if we refer to everything after yharim as post game), based on lore,i t seems xeroc and fovos prime are the most powerful calamity figures so i think player will be around that point at the end

pliant ruin
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Could arguably switch terrarian and ml around but ifs honestly subjective

golden oasis
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although xeroc is something beyond us

dusk laurel
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numbers might be outdated

untold bluff
dusk laurel
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idk

untold bluff
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lmao

warm gull
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yeah I'd say it's probably possible for peak terrarian to beat peak fovos ngl

split mortar
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I’d say fovos is still above us if they were in their prime, they fought a civilisation of dragons

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But we could win with skill

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Maybe

vale notch
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Anyone make any art of enlightenment form DoG? I really want to see how you guys interpret his enlightened form :0

untold bluff
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i am

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as we speak

vale notch
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Ok!

warm gull
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I think they could probably beat xeroc but xeroc is too good at evasion and mobility in ways we can't be

untold bluff
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giving him a sangheli mouth because why not

vale notch
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Kk

golden oasis
split mortar
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If omnis calcs are accurate, scal is like high city while xeroc is country

warm gull
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I was planning to do that for my interpretation of the theoretical wormlamity final boss

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the sangheili mouth I mean

vale notch
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Oke

pliant ruin
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I think powerscalinf xeroc is impossible rn bc we just
Dont have enoufh info

warm gull
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specifically the h2a variant

pliant ruin
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Im not a powerscaler though so

warm gull
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bc it can close

pliant ruin
split mortar
warm gull
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omni has done it before

golden oasis
warm gull
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powerscaling xeroc I mean

vale notch
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Isn’t Xeroc able to just re manifest every single opponent you’ve killed? (Boss rush)

split mortar
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Isn’t noxus the most destructive character though

golden oasis
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if gods can die, i wouldnt call xeroc immortal. it's just that we lack the means to ever do enough damage to kill him.

warm gull
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I'm pretty sure the only reason the terrarian can't beat xeroc by the end of the game is that xeroc can simply escape at any time

golden oasis
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i assume that's some kinda ritual nonsense

vale notch
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No

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Literally

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Sever the link

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As in

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The souls

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Of Xeroc and Zeratros

split mortar
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The souls are one when they ascend

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There isn’t a auric soul and normal soul

vale notch
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Then we must force a descent

warm gull
golden oasis
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if we dont have the ritual to auric ascend off of yharon's soul then we prolyl lack the means to do other soul nonsense for calamity lore

split mortar
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Otherwise yharim would have separated the dragons from the gods

tall delta
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cant he burn a good part of the planet

cloud ibex
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maybe

dusk laurel
cloud ibex
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we Don't Really Know™️

golden oasis
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what if xeroc pulled an SCP 001 WDB

dusk laurel
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pretty easily

vale notch
split mortar
dusk laurel
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but he could still kill them

split mortar
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Yeah

warm gull
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so basically it's a draw

split mortar
dusk laurel
golden oasis
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i mean what stops xeroc from just flashing the screen into making you "blind" and then hitting you with one shot kill laser

split mortar
split mortar
golden oasis
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yeah, we cant make him go all out

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because if he does, he'll stomp us

vale notch
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Can he beat Kirby though?

indigo glade
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No.

golden oasis
indigo glade
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Nothing beats Kirby.

dusk laurel
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yeag

golden oasis
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im pretty sure void termina would obliterate xeroc

dusk laurel
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kirby is a higher deity

vale notch
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Can he beat any of the greater gods Kirby has faced

cloud ibex
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kirby is like goku

warm gull
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I mean think about it in the game, the terrarian never does more damage to their enemies percentage wise than they do to the terrarian. The terrarian isn't very tanky at all. They are a glass canon who's extremely skilled at dodging

cloud ibex
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he always wins

golden oasis
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i think xeroc is at most like, star level

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void termina (which kirby and a few friends blew up) was set on being a disaster to the entire universe iirc

vale notch
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Yep

warm gull
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the terraria's main strengths are agility and raw destructive power, not physical endurance

warm gull
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continent level

random mulch
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made a noxus sketch because why not

split mortar
warm gull
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or country level actually

golden oasis
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i keep getitng my levels confused

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im not a pro power scaler yet

dusk laurel
golden oasis
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but either way, xeroc lands like 2 hits on kirby, kirby then either just eats him and see what primoridal light copy ability looks like, or he spits a star at xeroc and somehow olbiterates him in just like 12 shots

vale notch
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I don’t powerscale :3

indigo glade
golden oasis
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but what about...

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xeroc soul

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the same thing.

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he has an extra phase

vale notch
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Eaten

golden oasis
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where he like turns into a dragon hybrid think like kaido

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but kirby wins everytime

vale notch
golden oasis
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nah

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i just came up with it

vale notch
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Ok

golden oasis
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i think it'd make sense though for a god to be able to tap into the likeness of the dragon they merged with

random mulch
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time to repost my xeroc again

vale notch
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Do you think Kirby and Yharon would be good buddies?

dusk laurel
golden oasis
dusk laurel
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yellow nowXD

vale notch
golden oasis
random mulch
split mortar
vale notch
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It just kinda reminds me of him

dusk laurel
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yharon is biased

tall delta
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I mean kirby is the protagonist ofc he will win everytime

dusk laurel
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as in he is fine in genociding people who worships gods

warm gull
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kirby when I use a memetic device to wipe him simultaneously from everyone's brain and the internet forever (fuck that stupid pink ball he's not multiverse level he's just a fucking ball that can eat things)

golden oasis
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wasnt yharon also partially why yharim decided to start this whole fiasco

split mortar
split mortar
untold bluff
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yharon if he was reborn in 2024

cloud ibex
random mulch
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yharim wouldve probably been kinda fucked even if he didnt meet yharon
but yharon made him so much worse

golden oasis
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maybe the next time he reincarnates once this whole mess is over he can try to live a normal life
or atleast as normal a life as the last known auric dragon can get

vale notch
untold bluff
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i mean, yharon is very intelligent

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so

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imagine if he started a lawmowing business or something when he reincarnated lmao

golden oasis
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do you guys think that yharon is the last dragon for real or that there are others who in hiding (asking about personal headcanons, i am aware that im pretty sure yharon's the last one in conventional lore)

vale notch
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Maybe???

untold bluff
#

i doubt he's the only one left in the entire universe

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actually who knows, maybe there are different worlds with world souls and auric dragons and gods

golden oasis
#

i wish we could know if auric dragons are just a terraria thing or if multiple worlds have them

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(terraria as in the planet the game takes place on

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maybe mars has a few lmao

untold bluff
#

dragon for every element on the periodic table

golden oasis
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neon dragon
he just looks cool

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imagine being a god of neon

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you just

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make cool signs appear

vale notch
#

Bromine dragon
Don’t… don’t go near it please

golden oasis
#

oh god no

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that's worse than providence

untold bluff
#

mercury dragon

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just liquid

golden oasis
#

goopy boy

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mercury god be like

untold bluff
#

true

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actually how would you kill something made out of liquid

wheat walrus
untold bluff
#

most difficult god for yharim to kill

golden oasis
#

maybe this

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just sick yharon on him

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mercury god that is

untold bluff
#

oh true

golden oasis
#

i dont know if the heat of yharon's flames are ever specified but they freaking HURT even in endgame armor

split mortar
pliant ruin
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well

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''kill''

split mortar
#

Yeah but that’s due to them being an elemental not due to being water

untold bluff
#

the only way to kill the elementals is to rid the entire world of their domain

pliant ruin
#

fair enough

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anahitahater301 on their way to evaporate all water on earth

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well not even

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water would still exist then just in a different form

golden oasis
pliant ruin
#

anahitahater301 on their way to erase all water on earth za hando style

untold bluff
#

so in order to kill silva you need to FallWithinMyCalculationsFallWithinMyCalculationsFallWithinMyCalculations

indigo glade
split mortar
#

Doesnt silva need every other living thing gone for them to die, due to being goddess of life

golden oasis
#

i thought silva wasnt an elemental but a goddess of the life element

indigo glade
#

As anahitahater301, I am going to turn all water into clouds, permanently.

pliant ruin
#

silva is both

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she's a elemental and a goddess

golden oasis
spring helm
#

Why didn’t Anahita just freeze all the water in the Terrarian’s body, is she stupid

split mortar
spring helm
#

Wait she’s an elemental don’t answer that

golden oasis
indigo glade
split mortar
golden oasis
#

what is the difference from usual god ascension and "perfect ascension"

untold bluff
#

wouldnt it also basically be impossible to kill brimstone elemental

indigo glade
split mortar
pliant ruin
#

like

split mortar
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And considering the two examples of it are silva and xeroc, it’s likely much stronger

golden oasis
#

so basically it's like exponentially multiplying what you get or something ig?

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

brimstone - you need to get rid of all the fire in the world
cloudy - you need to get rid of all the air in the world
anahita - you need to get rid of all the water in the world

you get the point

split mortar
#

Silva- follow providences plan

spring helm
#

auric ore elemental

ionic fjord
split mortar
untold bluff
#

also what would providence have done after killing all life

split mortar
#

Since they’re the earth elemental

warm gull
#

anahita: "I'm so powerful"

me drinking water:

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

if providence somehow accomplished the Impossible Task of killing every single living being

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i think she'd just

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go lich

spring helm
#

rahhh

pliant ruin
#

from fionna and cake

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like

untold bluff
pliant ruin
#

she just sits there

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and is like

#

ok now what

warm gull
#

nah she'd burn herself too

untold bluff
#

no she would definitely suicide\

golden oasis
#

do yall think we'll ever actually be able to find silva at the bottom of the abyss eventually
ik we'll prolly not be able to pull her to the surface or anything but atleast see like a plant cocoon or something and if interacted "you faintly hear twitching movements"

spring helm
#

Ultron in that What-If

spring helm
#

now what?

dusk laurel
#

iirc

warm gull
#

also if providence killed all life she would also kill silva

dusk laurel
#

tye corpse woll be added

split mortar
#

We use her in armour

dusk laurel
#

mostly plants

pliant ruin
#

honestly i much prefer the fionna and cake lich interpretation

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like

pliant ruin
#

the lich managed to kill Every Living Being

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so he just

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kind of sits down

spring helm
#

i thought her corpse decomposed already

pliant ruin
#

for eternity

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and is like

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ok what do i do now

golden oasis
warm gull
pliant ruin
#

and then when simon and fionna and cake arrive he dosent even try to kill them hes just like

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ok Lol

pliant ruin
#

had that motivation

split mortar
#

Fair, though she did get beat to a pulp by yharim so her actual remains very well could also look like random plant goop

pliant ruin
#

but once he actualy accomplished it

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he felt no satisfaction

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his entire work was for Nothing because he got Nothing out of it

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so i think its plausible something similar could happen to provi

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(plus its cool as fuck watch fionna and acke its peak

warm gull
#

providence has some other context behind her motivation though

sudden ruin
#

it does looko cool

indigo glade
#

We don't know her motivations for killing everything.

golden oasis
#

ik it wont happen but can you imagine the dryad's reaciton if terrarian just strolled back to town with a comically drenched goddess elemental following them

"whatcha got there"
"some scoria ore"

indigo glade
#

We just know she wants to.

split mortar
#

Providence if she gets a bit bored may just suicide since her ideology is suffering of any kind is worse then death

golden oasis
#

since the terrarian's lore is up to everyone's interpretation i interpet them as some chaotic neutral menace to society who somehow keeps climbing the power ladder

split mortar
indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

There's

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no evidence 4 that

split mortar
#

Oh

indigo glade
#

The best cult leaders spew bullshit they don't believe in.

pliant ruin
#

Like

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that's

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a interesting headcanon and all

cloud ibex
pliant ruin
#

Could b real

cloud ibex
#

i think

pliant ruin
#

but like

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there's no actual textual basis for it

cloud ibex
#

idk i haven't played it

pliant ruin
#

a bit much stating it as if it was outright fact

split mortar
#

Thought it was canon nvm

pliant ruin
#

no im not

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talking abt u

golden oasis
#

i've been told that statis will eventually be encounterable as a travelling shopkeeper npc
wonder if he has any unique lore to give, or any special dialogue if you have his equipment on you (like statis belt)

pliant ruin
#

talking abt the claim that she

split mortar
#

Oh ok

pliant ruin
#

dosen't actually believe the nihilism thing

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like there's no basis for that, as much as i think it is a possible headcanon, just shouldn't be stated as fact

spring helm
#

we see Dryad turning into a tree in the credits after moon lord dies
what if the Terrarian is able to resurrect Silva by turning her into a tree as well
the next time Dryad leaves her house she finds a ginormous tree

"Why did you plant such a massive tree outside my house, Terrarian?"
"That's Silva."
"WHA-"

golden oasis
#

oh

pliant ruin
#

he'll give you quests

golden oasis
#

that's cool

split mortar
split mortar
#

No

sudden ruin
#

reworked i imagine

split mortar
#

Signus rework

sudden ruin
#

progression

golden oasis
#

ah

#

so is signus still going to be a devourer sentinel or moved away from that

split mortar
#

The sentinels have not been sentinels since the rewrite

sudden ruin
#

i think the lore has changed a while ago

golden oasis
#

ik they aren't actual sentinels anymore

#

i just call them that for simplicity

#

you know i'm referring to void, weaver, and signus

pliant ruin
#

none of the ''sentinels" are gonna be fought the way they are now

#

because like

#

they're essentially glorified minibosses

#

they're gonna have Actual Identity

sudden ruin
#

yea'

split mortar
#

They’re all related to the distortion, ceaseless will grant access to the distortion subworld

golden oasis
#

i remember somewhere saying that ceaseless is like a living portal to the distortion so maybe killing him is how you get there

pliant ruin
#

well

#

not living

split mortar
#

Yes

pliant ruin
#

but ye

#

hyes a portal

#

you fight him and you get access to the distortion, atleast part of it

golden oasis
pliant ruin
#

killing devourer unlocks another part

pliant ruin
#

i dont think its

split mortar
#

It’s a portal that has a concerning amount of energy put into it that and lunatic cultist put a spell on it

pliant ruin
#

actually sentient and targetting you

#

i think its just unstable + the seal on it is probably fighting back to stop it from being unsealed

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

ye

indigo glade
#

Theres lasers that sometimes are shot towards the player and that is it.

pliant ruin
#

ceaseless is straight up just An Object and i think that's funny

indigo glade
#

The rest of the fight would function the same with or without the player.

golden oasis
#

what is LC's lore reason for capturing mechanic in calamity? cause in calamity, LC is keeping fovos back instead of perpetuating his return

pliant ruin
#

new post moon lord boss

cosmilite chair

frozen zodiac
#

auric toilet secret boss fight

split mortar
#

Old man trespassed and they cursed him, she may have and was in trouble

pliant ruin
indigo glade
golden oasis
#

in original terraria lore it seems like they grbabed mechanic so she could make things for them

split mortar
golden oasis
#

what if it's the same kinda seal as cryogen, just unstable from the amount of force it's exerting

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(flesh prison and flesh panopticon from ultrakill fr

split mortar
#

I mean maybe? Cryogen was made by scal so I doubt she would match the mastery of the lunatic cultist with not brimstone magics

split mortar
#

But it’s not impossible they’re very similiar

golden oasis
#

it still ended up in similar results: something made to contain something else, and is able to protect itself

split mortar
#

Yeah

golden oasis
#

imagine if calamitas tried to cryogen the player but the player goes "this prison.. to hold... ME?!" and breaks out

split mortar
#

Maybe the box we’re in during the fight is like a better version of it

split mortar
golden oasis
#

havent reached that far in eternity mode, so nope!

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

Check a video if you don’t believe me

untold bluff
#

@vale notch spent too much time on the wings, guh

spring helm
#

eyes

#

so many eyes

vale notch
#

Looks pretty

#

I really like the wing pattern as well

split mortar
#

eyes

untold bluff
#

i kinda just threw it together without planning

#

maybe somebody can draw and improve it?

#

i dont have much experience on moth or butterfly design

tall delta
dusk laurel
#

he can put a decent crater on the moon

spring helm
#

🤷‍♂️

dusk laurel
#

so probably

rose oar
split mortar
rose oar
split mortar
#

Wise Xeroc ain’t even full moon level

dusk laurel
#

yeag

split mortar
warm gull
#

holy shit it's sir gideon ofnir the all-knowing

split mortar
#

Maybe back then it was but now, Xeroc isn’t even moon level

warm gull
#

hii

rose oar
#

yeah but just judging off that one post just for fun technically Yharon would be moon level

wheat walrus
rose oar
#

if you were following dbz levels

#

but in reality like yall said yeah

#

no way

#

still it's kinda fun to think about

wheat walrus
#

Once upon a time, skibidaddle bibibaddle

dusk laurel
#

perish.

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Heart plus up! Canonically scales below cv, what will be theirs impocations

split mortar
#

Explains so much

dusk laurel
#

cats

#

catlamitas

split mortar
wheat walrus
#

popcorn

split mortar
#

Ok

spring helm
#

now that i think about it

#

i havent drawn a picture like that in a while

wheat walrus
#

the godkiller

dusk laurel
#

dissipate

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Cool worm dragon thing

split mortar
wheat walrus
wheat walrus
split mortar
split mortar
dusk laurel
wheat walrus
#

"early boss is actually a beyond godly entity" type joke

spring helm
#

Minecraft zombie solos nameless diety

split mortar
#

I will drop a brick on you

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Probably salamander

#

Dalamadur

wheat walrus
#

most likely

#

it can reshape the earth's crust with a twitch of its muscles, casually take down entire mountains, and is considered a very powerful monster even compared to the likes of Shara Ishvalda (multi-continent level crustal vibrations) and Amatsu (supernatural storms)

#

it also summons meteor-like objects out of the sky somehow

split mortar
#

Yeah it wins
Monster hunter scaling is just higher then calamity’s

wheat walrus
#

like this is mainly for elder dragons

#

anything below elder dragon level doesn't really reach small town level even

split mortar
#

Oh, big jump in power then I see

wheat walrus
#

the reason elders are busted is because they are capable of manipulating environments

#

in many ways

#

like through weather manipulation for example

#

the weakest elder dragon is capable of causing thunderstorms with its mere existence

#

the ones I mention here are also quite high tier

split mortar
#

Ah ok

brazen coral
#

i want to pet it

split mortar
#

So calamity is generally not far behind monster hunter then with elder dragons it starts getting quite above calamity?

wheat walrus
dusk laurel
#

manor hunter

wheat walrus
#

and even then the average elder dragon is large island level, it's high tier elder dragons (shara ishvalda and above) where elder dragons get too strong

split mortar
#

I do wonder what would be fair fights for calamity vs monster hunter stuff then

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

most monster hunter monsters that you hunt are just like

#

normal animals

#

admittedly

#

insanely powerful normal animals

split mortar
#

Maybe xeroc and noxus will be able to if they get better feats in the future but rn idk

pliant ruin
#

but still in-universe they're just normal animals

#

then there's

#

the Exceptions

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

aka high end elder dragons SmugRyo

wheat walrus
# pliant ruin insanely powerful normal animals

it's kinda odd I'll admit, cause MH's fantasy levels are kinda not that high when compared to calamity, because MH takes heavy inspirations from irl creatures and phenomenons therefore keeping itself grounded, but elder dragons kinda break that part because they are most often inspired by natural events in the scale of storms and earthquakes rather than more grounded things like a feline or a fish

split mortar
#

And then things I’m surprised they haven’t ended the world

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

i think some of the strongest monsters that fall under the "technically just a normal animal" side of things are like

#

deviljho and rajang and some elders on the lower end of things

wheat walrus
#

yea

#

but even then

pliant ruin
#

i think deviljho would pull off being a hardmode boss

#

post ml really would just be high end elders

wheat walrus
#

rajang eats the kirin horn, the horn is what kirin uses to cause thunderstorms so that's funny

pliant ruin
#

but i feel like deviljho and rajang could pull off hardmode

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

mmm idk

#

more so like

#

mid-late hardmode i feel

wheat walrus
#

mh powerscaling is funny cause normally it isn't a powerful verse

pliant ruin
#

like i don't think they're getting past like

#

pbg

wheat walrus
#

but then when you consider elder dragons it gets kinda odd

pliant ruin
#

at most

#

deviljho's entire thing is like

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

imagine a animal

#

a animal that is incredibly fucking efficient at hunting

#

but it's so efficient

#

that it needs a insane amount of energy to mantain its body

wheat walrus
#

Deviljho is a very powerful animal, but it's also very hungry

#

yes

pliant ruin
#

and because of that

#

it's always fkin hungry

wheat walrus
#

its hunger fucks up entire ecosystems

pliant ruin
#

now

#

mix the fact

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

its essentially always hungry

#

and the fact

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

its like

#

one of the most efficient predators in the world

#

and

#

deviljho basically is

#

a evolutionary dead end

wheat walrus
#

yea

pliant ruin
#

he's so strong trhat he fucks up his own ecosystem and then has to act as a invasive species to survive by fucking up other ecosystems

wheat walrus
#

I like the theory of deviljho going towards extinction, it just makes sense

split mortar
#

How is monster hunter world even alive

pliant ruin
#

oh yeah i 100% believe it

#

i think jho realistically is gonna be extinct in like

#

10 years max, in universe

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

its a species that quite literally relies on being invasive and destroying ecosystems to survive

wheat walrus
#

and the few monsters that could straight up end the world are even more so

pliant ruin
#

hunter's entire thing is hunting the monsters when they do actually threaten the enviroment

#

like in MH the humans are just as much as part of the ecosystem as the monsters

spring helm
#

Omni

#

Is there any canon weapon that can blow up a tsunami

pliant ruin
#

how od you blow up water

split mortar
#

Probably stuff like rancor

wheat walrus
# wheat walrus and the few monsters that could straight up end the world are even more so

the one monster that has fully been confirmed to have the power needed to destroy everything by itself is Fatalis for all I could find, at least in mainline, and Fatalis only appeared once over 1000 years ago, ended a country overnight, that country managed to make Fatalis stop its rampage before being entirely destroyed and yea

then after those years passed we fought Fatalis and fully defeated it by ourselves

split mortar
#

Or supernova

wheat walrus
#

or just disperse it

spring helm
#

Disperse works

wheat walrus
#

or even just stop it

pliant ruin
#

fatalis is one of the few monsters i'd argue is actually like fucking evil

wheat walrus
#

uhh idk

wheat walrus
#

Fatalis is an oddball

split mortar
#

I wonder if there’s anything that can let us scale noxus

pliant ruin
#

fatalis is a Mystery by itself but

wheat walrus
#

while its actions would definitely be fucked up

pliant ruin
#

i feel like

#

it's v much plausible that it's straight up a sentient evil guy

spring helm
#

Noxus is black hole level ong

wheat walrus
#

Fujioka (one of the series' leads and writer) thinks that Fatalis doesn't have an intent of pure destruction more than it isn't really understandable and has intentions not meant to be known to us

#

so that's interesting

pliant ruin
#

So basically

wheat walrus
#

personally I just think that Fatalis is a monster that operates on such a scale that we can't really understand

pliant ruin
#

lovecraftian horror type motivation hdflr

#

like it's seen as Evil by us but that's because it's Incomprehensible

wheat walrus
#

yea

#

to us, erasing an entire country region thing is a horrific tragedy, to Fatalis it may just be the equivalent of something much more simple

split mortar
#

Except poking it with iron swords kills it instead of it erasing 17 concepts from the universe cause of our audacity

split mortar
wheat walrus
#

either that or it could be like

#

I know that Forbidden Monsters, specifically Alatreon, are stated to have a planetary sense of territory

spring helm
#

Guys I wrote myself into a corner
I don’t have a win condition against Anahita that isn’t just “evaporate the ocean”

split mortar
#

Evaporate her

spring helm
#

I’m not ready to write a “colonize the ex-ocean floor” arc

dusk laurel
wheat walrus
spring helm
wheat walrus
#

so

wheat walrus
#

what we may see as a horrific destruction event, to Fatalis it's just defending its territory

#

at the same time this may not be the most consistent thing in the world cause why would Fatalis and Alatreon not clash at this point, maybe it's because they have co-existed for a long time?

#

Idk

#

anyways

#

back on topic

frozen zodiac
spring helm
#

To be fair it is quite dark in the abyss

spring helm
split mortar
#

Calamitas didn’t even do that, it was a tie they were equally harmed

split mortar
frozen zodiac
#

honestly that must have felt terrible for cal simultaneously saving her kingdom from brimmy and leaving everything in ruins :(

split mortar
wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Alright then

spring helm
split mortar
#

I think so

#

Cause both lived

#

They both may have not even gotten that harmed

spring helm
#

How tf does the brimstone elemental run out of juice in the underworld

#

You are surrounded by the juice

split mortar
#

Simple, she strong and so it’s like being surrounded by five rice grains when hungry, could prob help but it’s not much for you

spring helm
#

Damn alright I gotta make my Terrarian win a battle of attrition against the ocean

#

Without destroying the ecosystem

split mortar
#

Yeah good luck

frozen zodiac
#

honestly i think apart from the mental fight against how horribly painful debuffs are i think terraria boss fights would also be exhausting as all hell with how hectic they get

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

Though potions exist and magic so maybe stamina isn’t as much a issue

indigo glade
#

Fantasy worlds means fantasy levels of stamina.

fading sun
#

Pretend that this message is a moon lord fade in gif

spring helm
#

Do you not have the gif

fading sun
#

I technically do but I'm not digging that deep into my favorites

split mortar
#

Then search it, not that hard to find it searching moonlord

spring helm
#

It’s the first thing that pops up when you search for moon lord in the discord gif thing

fading sun
#

Nah you don't get it

#

I have my own version where's it's zoomed in

dusk laurel
split mortar
#

What even is this calamitous image

frozen zodiac
#

that was in fact, calamitous

frozen zodiac
fading sun
dusk laurel
#

simple

#

idk

fading sun
#

Like unless you're playing constant or gfb

#

You never ever HAVE TO eat

fading sun
fading sun
#

The terrarian just eats everything he kills and puts in the trash slot

fading sun
frozen zodiac
# split mortar

there's gotta be someone with a terrarian that eats blood sacrifices to sustain themselves right

dusk laurel
#

probably

spare pier
#

I feel like the vast majority of them don't create those natural events, or at least were never meant to

#

They just follow them