lore-discussion

[sleek halo]

for ds

[random mulch]

DS simply has a nictitating membrane

[sleek halo]

woohoo

lol imagine as had echo location

[random mulch]

gonna lengthen the top of the chrome dome a bit causse it's kinda short

[sleek halo]

was literally just a cetacean

btw for art liket his

do you just

mirror it

[random mulch]

yeah

it's easier

[sleek halo]

well excluding the teeth on the mandibles

[sleek halo]

ah

[random mulch]

i wanna make the fins on the scourges a bigger part but on DS i want them to look really worn and tattered

[untold oracle]

Helloo

What we loring today

[random mulch]

i'm making a scoog, scroll up

[untold oracle]

Ooh

[sleek halo]

On as they should definitely be prominent

but on ds I feel like they should be much smaller

in comparison to it’s body

[spring helm]

I am in class lore channel

[untold oracle]

Not really sure about that jaw but otherwise good

[spring helm]

Therefore everyone in calamity must also attend school

Yharim played college ball

[untold oracle]

They should make calamity lore a subject in school

[spring helm]

Could have gone pro if he didn’t get dipped in lava

[random mulch]

the fins on DS would probably originally have been pretty large from before the incineration but since then the membranes would have worn away

[deft vessel]

Maby make the mandible a bit more girthy tbh

[sleek halo]

ah

[dusk laurel]

that probably explains why there arent that many fins on it

[sleek halo]

girthier on ds would make sense

just not on

as

[spring helm]

What does DS even hunt

[deft vessel]

Like and ice breaker but with sand

[manic coral]

Seeing as it's a more minor thing idk if I'll fit anywhere

[hoary berry]

i just got out of class

[dusk laurel]

antlions and cati

[manic coral]

Yeah, they share a common ancestor

[untold oracle]

Wait is this as or ds

[sleek halo]

Whatever lives in and on the desert

[random mulch]

this is just kinda meant to be a scourge, not any specifically

[manic coral]

They are pretty closely related species

[sleek halo]

yeah

[untold oracle]

They prolly had the same ancestor

[sleek halo]

I assume they split sometime ago

[untold oracle]

But then they adapted to their own environments

[sleek halo]

Probably a river that led into the sea

and dried up

[deft vessel]

Man… when we getting the 4th scourge

[untold oracle]

Ice scourge !!

[spring helm]

Must have split quite a while ago considering one lives in an ocean and the other lives in an underground sea (or at least used to)

[sleek halo]

i would say the sea was

on the top

[random mulch]

one weird idea i had for scourge mandibles is that they're similar to trap jaw ants
being able to latch open and snap shut

[sleek halo]

or reached surface

might be wrong

[manic coral]

Originally lived in lakes and rivers and stuff, and while some became better at living in combinations of rock, soil, and water, others found the sea and evolved to live better there

[sleek halo]

yea

Btw cei

[dusk laurel]

scourge lore

[sleek halo]

would you agree as is far

bigger

than ds

just pulls a filter feeder and grows massive

[untold oracle]

I love filter feeder as

[spring helm]

I thought it was already bigger in-game

[deft vessel]

Wheres the part where one of them goes to the distortion and starts telling lies

[untold oracle]

Chill dude

[sleek halo]

yeah

but I kinda imagine as is like 40-50 ft long

and ds is closer to like 20

[manic coral]

I do want to show what ended up with the species that stayed in lakes and stuff though

[sleek halo]

they fuckin DIEDD

[random mulch]

tyrian said he liked them and yharim took that personally

[deft vessel]

Cave digger

[manic coral]

How they evolved to just live in the same envrionment better

I know where I cna definitly show that

[deft vessel]

Or the eater of worms ate them

[random mulch]

river scourge would be a fun critter tho

[sleek halo]

that or we just don’t find an area

they live in

on the continent

[manic coral]

At this point I'm pretty much going to have a dumping pool for everything I wnated to do but couldn't so

[sleek halo]

there’s probably tons of lakes and shit

[untold oracle]

It should be a very small goober

[sleek halo]

AS would probably be the biggest out of all divergent species

[untold oracle]

Ofc

[sleek halo]

it lives in hell

[untold oracle]

It has the stablest food source

[sleek halo]

well not literally hell

[random mulch]

AS gets to be lazy and grow enormous

[deft vessel]

Just make a pocket dimension with some collerctor lad that collected all that weird stuff

[untold oracle]

Chemical hell

[sleek halo]

chemical hell yeah

[manic coral]

Oh no it's something cooler

[sleek halo]

as is probably somewhat altered

from what it was pre draedon

[deft vessel]

Oh boy

[sleek halo]

to accommodate

I imagine that outside the sulfurous sea, ocean??

idk which

[manic coral]

tbf it's mostly near the shore that's polluted

[sleek halo]

there’s probably other variants of as that aren’t affected by the chemicals

[untold oracle]

I’m interested in where’s the border between sulphurous sea and ocean

[manic coral]

the rest of the sea is just kinda

well

sulphurous

[untold oracle]

I headcanon sulphurous sea as an inland sea

Kinda like baltic and mediterranean

[deft vessel]

I think it would be really cool if something had a spawn animation where they like crack reality and come from their dimension

[sleek halo]

ah

[untold oracle]

Doesn’t dog kinda do that

[spring helm]

Kinda but with portals

[deft vessel]

Something more like a glass crack or a slice instead of glowing ball

[spring helm]

Maybe signus could do it

[sleek halo]

out of curiosity

how would draedon

revert it

or clean it

[spring helm]

Destroy and rebuilt from the bedrock

[sleek halo]

considering he says it’d be a trivial matter

[manic coral]

i mean he literally has technology to somehow manipulate particles at this point

[sleek halo]

True

not like he needs to worry about

energy

[manic coral]

there are a lot of ways

[sleek halo]

lol

[split mortar]

All he needs to do is get filtration bots and they can work 24/7/365 thanks to prisms

[deft vessel]

Drinks it with one of those life straws

[manic coral]

exo vacuum

but yeah i've spent my morning writing amidias stuff

[untold oracle]

If not just some atom manipulator, probably some very large filter thing that scoops up all the chemicals from water

[dusk laurel]

is tyrian related to the ilmeran royal family

[untold oracle]

Or some chemical compound that breaks all the harmful stuff

[manic coral]

it's funny. most of the times i obviously can't make stuff TOO long since it's eays to access. but slectable npc dialogue?

[dusk laurel]

considering they look to be the same species

[manic coral]

i cna effectively have that as long as i wish to be

[split mortar]

They’re a god if the sunken sea like ontonilou so I’d very much think so

[deft vessel]

Make your own extended lore doc

[manic coral]

i can inject the full extent of my autism into talking about things

[sleek halo]

real

[split mortar]

Yay autism

[manic coral]

i can make amidias tlak about how Ilmeris was founded for six paragraphs

because i have

[split mortar]

Nice

[dusk laurel]

amidias is the speaker

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

Lore discussion chat going to eat well after SSO

[dusk laurel]

so much fish

[sleek halo]

Can’t wait to find out it’s one of the oldest civilizations

[sleek halo]

on land

ornwell

[untold oracle]

Rain worl creatures gonna be nice

[deft vessel]

Don’t let nordic people in there

[sleek halo]

kind of on land

[dusk laurel]

i wanna learn more about prismback and scutler lore

[sleek halo]

LOL

[spring helm]

Ilmeris is like, around 700 years old?

The unified state that is

[manic coral]

650-600

ish

[spring helm]

The tribes have been around longer?

[dusk laurel]

yeap

they sold water and stuff

[sleek halo]

Would the gods have been there longer…

[split mortar]

To be fair azafure ain’t even 2000 years old

[deft vessel]

Bro when is Jeff getting added

[mighty zenith]

orwell................

[untold oracle]

Wasn’t Ilmeris basically just sunken sea from surface? Then after the incineration only the underground part survived

[split mortar]

Around a third of azafure

[spring helm]

Actually meta strat considering they were underneath a desert

[dusk laurel]

the surface was a desert

[sleek halo]

[mighty zenith]

illmeris was always underground

[manic coral]

all of ilmeris was udnerground

i mean

[untold oracle]

Wahat

[split mortar]

Scal attacked from above

[mighty zenith]

the underground desert was full of water

[manic coral]

how would a sloped upwards surrface support a sea

[mighty zenith]

the above desert was always there

[sleek halo]

Giant water reservoir

[manic coral]

ye thoguh it was more a "shore" than a desert

[untold oracle]

Wait if ilmeris was always underground, did Calamitas do the stuff in a cave??

[spring helm]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

draedon drilled a tiny hole

[split mortar]

Yes she burnt a cave

[deft vessel]

Still waiting for the eldrich horrors lore updste

[untold oracle]

Huh

[sleek halo]

and she shot her flames down the hole

obviously

[mighty zenith]

the troops had to enter from somewhere right

[manic coral]

perhaps noticed that most civilizations and houses were underground

[untold oracle]

I didn’t know that at all

[manic coral]

wonder if there's reasons for that

[split mortar]

Dragons

[sleek halo]

[spring helm]

THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT IS TOXIC

ZERATROS WAS KILLING EVERYONE

FOVOS WAS RIGHT

[split mortar]

It is, sunlight increases skin cancer you know

[mighty zenith]

the sun is a deadly laser

[random mulch]

everyone's favorite thing about designs, anatomy

[split mortar]

Fovos should have just thrown the moon at the sun

[untold oracle]

How did xeroc get so ridiculously powerful compared to zeratros

[spring helm]

Or you know, stuff like the solar eclipse and red moon made it near impossible to live above ground until recently

[spring helm]

Yummers

[sleek halo]

I mean it’s two souls combined

Also Imo considering the pre ascended Xeroc art

he was probably already able to vaguely use

PL

[untold oracle]

Love it

[split mortar]

He had a much better ascension

A god is a culmination of both parts but a bit stronger iirc

Xeroc had a perfect ascension and is was already likely quite strong

[sleek halo]

cause of the sigil floating behind his head

or little symbol thingie

[split mortar]

So super strong guy and super strong dragon with perfect ascension and 800 years of possible training

[untold oracle]

Still, I saw some official powerscale, zeratros being like 350 or smth and then xeroc being a humble and modest 3800

[random mulch]

the mechanism of its jaw closing is a bit weird and hidden bit it works similar to a knee joint

[sleek halo]

Yeah I mean

that’s one opinion

[deft vessel]

I would like a 3rd eldrich horror to be added

[dusk laurel]

he also trained for like 800 years

[sleek halo]

some devs think it’s a lot closer

in power wise

[untold oracle]

Alr

[split mortar]

800 years of training is probably going to do that

[sleek halo]

Imo

Xeroc would be like

twice as strong as zeratros

[untold oracle]

Me with the power of friendship

[sleek halo]

seems more reasonable

[deft vessel]

That begs the question how is the fight gonna work

[sleek halo]

then fovos would be like 1.5-1.7 the strength of zeratros

[split mortar]

Isn’t yharim like generally equal to zeratros? I’m sure him and yharon would have fought him recently if it were that close

[sleek halo]

Being twice as strong

Doesn’t also include

Xeroc being probably infinitely more skilled

than Yharim

and Yharon

[untold oracle]

For some reason the sulphuric depths theme has been playing in my head for hours

[sleek halo]

Like Imo how wielding PL works is

[deft vessel]

Now where does Noxus place in all of this

[random mulch]

i will now proceed to bestow skin upon the scoog

[sleek halo]

It has an insane amount of power

but the max you can output

is dependent on the person

or wield

So even someone like Xeroc wouldn’t be using it to it’s full potential

but that’s my headcanon

[sleek halo]

1.3-1.5

imo

[sleek halo]

Also I mean there’s nothing to say they didn’t fight him recently

Xeroc comments on Yharim’s strength

or well on him in general

Yharim also brings up

[deft vessel]

Since i think he is post-game i feel like his and xerocs gap would not be too big so maby like 1.7?

[sleek halo]

that Draedon is delusional

or well

that the exo mechs would be able to beat every god

if Xeroc didn’t exist

implying he also vaguely knows how strong Xeroc is

Whether that’s just him basing it off Yharon saying stuff

or an actual fight

is not known currently

[split mortar]

If it’s yharon saying stuff then xeroc may be much much stronger since then due to the whole 800 years thing

[sleek halo]

I mean

Xeroc would still be

stronger than the exo mechs

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

right after ascenion realistically

[split mortar]

Yeah I do think that aswell

[manic coral]

I'd say that before ascensions they were already at least equal to Yharon in strength

[sleek halo]

Would make sense

[split mortar]

Oh

Yeah

[manic coral]

that's about how strong I imagine them being

[sleek halo]

honestly I wonder how strong Yharon was in the past

[split mortar]

Primordial light is busted so even if they could only hold a little bit back then I ain’t surprised

[sleek halo]

i mean probably vastly weaker

closer to above average strength of dragons

[manic coral]

eh, i wouldn't say vastly

given he's probably also one of the oldest

[deft vessel]

Could you cocentrate pl with a magefying glass

[sleek halo]

I mean rn he’s attuned to a dude and also probably training

[split mortar]

Yeah skill gain

[manic coral]

like, even when recorded history started, the idea of auric dragons reviving was a commonly accepted thing

[sleek halo]

In the past I doubt Yharon was fighting for his fucking life

[manic coral]

as draedon says

[sleek halo]

Well yeah

[manic coral]

that makes yharon at LEAST like 2000 years old

[sleek halo]

I imagine rebirth was

one of the first auric souls

[manic coral]

the crusade would still only be like

[sleek halo]

given

[manic coral]

1/20 of his life

ish

[sleek halo]

True but he also did like

die

[split mortar]

I doubt you get auric dragon levels of strong by your genes holding your body back from going close to full strength even without training

[deft vessel]

Would his egg phases count towards his lifespan

[split mortar]

Yeah that makes sense why he would still be extremely angry over the dragons dying and stuff, semi recent for his perception at minimum

Or something

[sleek halo]

Well

yeah

for basically as long as xeroc has been a god

he’s probably been hunted

[split mortar]

I highly doubt that’s ever been a problem

[deft vessel]

I mean they did catch him

[random mulch]

bald

[wheat walrus]

they're lucky cause I wasn't the one to hunt

[sleek halo]

I mean Yharon is probably

One of the most known dragons

considering his domain was one of the most important

and to gods?

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-sakuna-edit-me-when-gif-12164420615121016482

[sleek halo]

the best chance of a domain that leads to something similar for them

[split mortar]

Wouldn’t be surprised yharon had probably a high religious importance if the dragons had any religion type things

[sleek halo]

Yharon was probably as important as Zeratros to the dragons

[deft vessel]

He’s the team medic

[split mortar]

Probably more so unless zeratros had something rivalling making the dragons immortal

[sleek halo]

no because no one respects the team medic

[split mortar]

Yeah and yharon got spawn killed for 700 years

[deft vessel]

Well maby they Were more enlightend

[wheat walrus]

he's the guy who carries the entire team

literally

[sleek halo]

I doubt he was

[wheat walrus]

the mvp

[sleek halo]

I imagine he was only recently caught

[untold oracle]

How was his soul not ever consumed?

Was it in a safe in the aerie or

[split mortar]

Maybe dying immediately yeeted yharons soul to the aerie making it much harder to get consumed

[wheat walrus]

I assume he was strong enough to fend himself from nearly everyone, and when he couldn't the opponent was still too damaged

to do much

[deft vessel]

It was being saved

For later

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-tool-mickey-mouse-mickey-clubhouse-gif-18764497

[sleek halo]

Yeah

I imagine he got stronger over time being hunted

but right now realistically at his peak

[untold oracle]

I mean he got constant experience

And probably increased his hate too

That would later be fully channeled to Yharim

[sleek halo]

yeah

[untold oracle]

Do we have any proof Yharon is actually the last remaining auric dragon

Or are there some inviduals camping in a remote continent

[split mortar]

Think it was said somewhere

[indigo glade]

Yharim said so.

[split mortar]

This time he has no reason to say something false

[hot valve]

The auric dragon of invisibility:

🥴

[untold oracle]

Yharim is a very trustable source

[deft vessel]

Gloryfing the genocide

[untold oracle]

Does he know

Does Yharim know for a fact yharon is the last one

[split mortar]

Considering he had draedon and had a crusade across the world I would say he has a pretty decent chance of knowing

[deft vessel]

Space

[hot valve]

Didn’t his crusade not expand past the continent we’re on?

[split mortar]

Yes

It spanned the world

[untold oracle]

Oh shit forgot Draedon

Draedon is actually 1984

Bro sees everything

[split mortar]

Yeah

He litteraly looked across the entire world just to see where the aerie is

[untold oracle]

He saw how braelor’s axe was created

[split mortar]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

According to scarce sources he even got a camera in your bathroom right now

Go check it

[split mortar]

Nah

His camera is inside the doors

[random mulch]

hope we get to see some scourge skeletons in the underground desert

[split mortar]

Would be cool

[random mulch]

honestly even though there are some aspects of desert scoog that are a bit weird (like the crescent mandibles that dont flow well into the rest of the body), i dont get the people who act like it's the end of the world on reddit and twitter

like, the design itself is good

[split mortar]

Like at worst it’s just a bit odd or off nothing too bad

[random mulch]

the wrench shaped worm is definitely not the worst it's ever looked

[split mortar]

Yeah

I like this one with mandibles only looking a little off but I don’t mind it

[deft vessel]

Imo the burrowing particles are a really nice touch

[split mortar]

Yeah

[random mulch]

also other smaller things like the new sand spitting sound effect and how the projectiles stretch out when first launched

[random mulch]

skull mcgee from another angle

[split mortar]

He is going to eat

[deft vessel]

Hungy

[random mulch]

skeleton scourge hungles

[untold oracle]

I think it looks like a digger

[random mulch]

sand scoog goes to fast for it to be normal digging

[untold oracle]

Look at this

And then this

[random mulch]

wow, 2 worms are both worms

[untold oracle]

Thin ass body and then wide jaw

Though I’d say the new one fits more to the ilmerian thing

[random mulch]

no clue what you're on about

[untold oracle]

[random mulch]

wouldnt even say that digger has "wide" mandibles

they're paper thin

and even then it has 2 sets

[untold oracle]

I donno really myself

I think they look quite similiar

Or feel at least

[gaunt sluice]

What does the aquatic scourge look like

[random mulch]

yeah no i dont see it

[random mulch]

we dont know

[gaunt sluice]

Alr now I can see the fishiness of this man

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

No

That’s devourer of dukes

[jaunty niche]

I like this haha

[untold oracle]

Ig I was just rambling

[deft vessel]

Eater of shushi

[indigo glade]

The spikes should be white to resemble Aquatic Scourge's teeth.

[split mortar]

Nah the digger teatg do semi resemble the mandibles I do see what you in about

[mighty zenith]

hey orios do you have a png of just new scourge

i need it rq

[random mulch]

breadstick

[untold oracle]

It’s not dry enough

Subject it to dehydration for 30 days

[indigo glade]

You're not dry enough.

[hoary berry]

i'm actually a little dehydrated

i should go refill my glass of water

[mighty zenith]

thabks

[hoary berry]

thank you lore chat for the health reminder

[split mortar]

If it was in need of any hydration it could easily drop to sunken see for a bit

[untold oracle]

You’ll become aquatic goose then

[split mortar]

Nah ph stands for the ph scale and if they get water from sulphurous sea they’ll still be phgoose

[hoary berry]

the ph in my name actually stood for phoenix originally because it's an awesome creature
but i made the H capital to both mirror the G and because of chemistry yeah

[gaunt sluice]

Aquatic scourge better look like this guy without sand

[split mortar]

If it has sand then it’s lore innacurate

[gaunt sluice]

Just a fishy boi

[indigo glade]

If Aquatic Scourge has sand colours, I'm going to blow up Calamity Mod.

[untold oracle]

So is as gonna get resprited too?

[split mortar]

Yes

[gaunt sluice]

Is everything getting resprited or just the things that need to

[split mortar]

I heard it’s not being made by the same guy so it may not be like sand scoog

[random mulch]

it'll probably have a similar bodyplan tho

[split mortar]

The quality is getting boosted for the old things that don’t stand up to current, so calclone and ravager will also get ones

Eventually

[random mulch]

raverger's gonna be cool

[indigo glade]

Gorilla.

[untold oracle]

Is this ravager or god of sacrifice

[random mulch]

ravager

[untold oracle]

Damn that’s sick

[split mortar]

Lore chat What are the lore implications of this

[untold oracle]

Though I’m not sure how to implement larger bipedal bosses without them looking silly

[indigo glade]

Reminder: he is nearly twice the size of Deerclops.

[gaunt sluice]

Reality is an illusion

[random mulch]

the distortion is a lie by yharim and draedon and CV is actually sealing HPU

[untold oracle]

Is this cv

[random mulch]

yes

[split mortar]

Cv with hpu inside

[indigo glade]

Potential resprite, developers need to vote on it if it is good or not.

[random mulch]

i hope it gets in

[split mortar]

I think it’s good

[untold oracle]

Keep it sealed

[random mulch]

ringed boi is good

[split mortar]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

It is good, but honestly, I'd rather other concepts get explored too, before deciding on one.

[random mulch]

really hope that CV gets reworked when it gets a resprite

[split mortar]

Same, hope we get to see the other possibilities after one is implemented

[random mulch]

the fight is really clunky rn

[split mortar]

From what I heard all the sentinels are

[untold oracle]

It has a new health bar coming up too if I’m not wrong

[random mulch]

every boss is getting a variation of the health bar

[untold oracle]

So I’d assume it’s gonna get reworked

[untold oracle]

Vanilla ones too?

[random mulch]

ye

[untold oracle]

Cool

[gaunt sluice]

That is an exo mechs

[split mortar]

Plant and golem

[indigo glade]

Why would the health bar necessitate a rework?

[untold oracle]

What are those balls?

[gaunt sluice]

Heih

[hoary berry]

number of minions alive iirc

[split mortar]

The blue ones are boss minions alive

[untold oracle]

I assumed they were for cv (dark energy)

What minions do most of them spawn

[split mortar]

Dark energy would count as a boss minion

[untold oracle]

Do you count golem fists as one

[split mortar]

Maybe the code would

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[dusk laurel]

you have returned

[gaunt sluice]

Every time you show up it's just this

[scenic olive]

thats his life mission

you will see it

til its end

[spring helm]

Reworked Ravager

[untold oracle]

In lore how does the terrarian end up fighting the bosses

Like ravager for example

Do they just have to find everyone?

As summons aren’t canon

[dull grove]

they pulled up on him one by one

[split mortar]

I think the ravager one could make sense in lore since the item says it’s one of the few sounds Ravager recognises meaning it just sprints at us after we blow the funny whistle

[untold oracle]

I assume in case with scal she actively hunts you down after a certain point

[split mortar]

Draedon’s exo mechs is canon

[pliant ruin]

most of them anyways

some are

[deft vessel]

But technically it’s Terrarian lore so…

[untold oracle]

So death whistle is canon?

[pliant ruin]

no

its just a headcanon

[split mortar]

Yeah a headcanon

[pliant ruin]

exo mechs is the only like

definitive canon summoning

[untold oracle]

What is yall headcanon how Terrarian ends up fighting Yharon

[pliant ruin]

but a few others make sense

yharon hunts them down

100%

[split mortar]

Gets jumped

[pliant ruin]

^

[deft vessel]

Cheese

[untold oracle]

Does Yharim send Yharon?

[split mortar]

No

[untold oracle]

Blob

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

He wouldn’t want to send yharon to a likely death

[untold oracle]

It feels weird that most boss encounters likely would just be getting jumped

[sleek halo]

I mean

You’re a threat to Yharim

[split mortar]

The evil 2 bosses may be canon idk

[sleek halo]

And Yharon doesn’t particularly need you killing hum

[split mortar]

With the tumors

[sleek halo]

nor want you to

[deft vessel]

Depends

[untold oracle]

I headcanon Yharim not really desperate to kill you or smth like that

[thorny marlin]

I think boss summons are equivalent to signal flares telling your exact locations

[sleek halo]

I mean he’s really not

[untold oracle]

Like he wants you to kill him after you prove yourself (fighting him)

[sleek halo]

Yharon is doing this out of his own volition

[untold oracle]

So that you can take his place

[pliant ruin]

Yharim really dosen't

care about killing us

[indigo glade]

'One of the few sounds the flesh golem still recognizes.'
Death Whistle tooltip.

[untold oracle]

Is Yharon the greater or lesser evil compared to Yharim

[indigo glade]

Nearly all the tooltips of the boss summons showcase why the boss fights you.

[split mortar]

Lesser

[thorny marlin]

lesser

[pliant ruin]

id say lesser because atleast yharon went through More

theyre both p terrible tho

[thorny marlin]

yharon supported yharim so ofc he's evil

[untold oracle]

They just made each other dumber

[deft vessel]

Yeah Yharon is blinded by revenge

[pliant ruin]

yeah they actively made eachother more ignorant

they're a bubble

[untold oracle]

An infinite loop

[split mortar]

Like he had his entire existence taken from him and is at minimum old enough that the crusade could feel like 1 year to a 20 year old so I doubt he has gotten much better

[split mortar]

Echo tunnel

[untold oracle]

Draedon could probably make a generator for that

[pliant ruin]

p much ya

[untold oracle]

To convert their anger to energy

[split mortar]

Maybe? He has prisms though

[indigo glade]

'The Scourge seeks for another meal.' -Desert Medallion
'Anything under her gaze shall be scorched beyond recognition.' -Charred Idol
'The heart of Her Guardians, Her wicked wrath shall burn upon whoever now wields it.' -Profaned Core

[deft vessel]

Like every calamity character feels like they are angry

[untold oracle]

Kinda like the cat-toast generator

[indigo glade]

Just a few examples.

[untold oracle]

I would prolly be quite mad after a century of warfare

[thorny marlin]

yharon beat you up because he doesn't know yharim has plans for u

[untold oracle]

Imagine if Yharon kills the terrarian

My bad g

[split mortar]

Could be canon if you want

[scenic olive]

yharon died but he doesnt, hes alive yet he is not

schrodingers dragon

[deft vessel]

Then you werent worthy to traverse Yharims path

[untold oracle]

He’s less alive

[sleek halo]

yharim probably would be disappointed

[untold oracle]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

but just be like “oh well”

[untold oracle]

How does Yharim even spectate the terrarian’s journey

[scenic olive]

He uses

The spectate button

[split mortar]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

/gamemode 3

[thorny marlin]

ravager's summon: https://x.com/i/status/1830410387142959184

internet hall of fame (@InternetH0F) on X

Dude accidently started a boss battle

Twitter · Sep 2, 2024, 1:00 AM

[split mortar]

He has a build of terraria hidden from the public

[scenic olive]

Id like to think yharim has poor vision

[untold oracle]

Yharim is secretly a dev

[split mortar]

Yharim is red

[scenic olive]

but he have so good sense he can sense you anywhere

[split mortar]

Exo tech eyes

[scenic olive]

bro unlocked ultra instinct

[thorny marlin]

he's in vc with us

[scenic olive]

bro can feel the air changes when you blinked

[thorny marlin]

yharim is depressed in the dragon aerie

[scenic olive]

ok

[thorny marlin]

yharim is in the dragon aerie because he almost got killed but statis and braelor

[scenic olive]

bro built Auric toilet fr

[thorny marlin]

then devourer of gods murked statis and braelor and sent them to the distortion

[split mortar]

Bust statis decided to leave

[thorny marlin]

statis is a member of the onyx kinsmen so he really fucking loves signus and that's why he made a deal with signus to free him out of that place

[split mortar]

He wants us to kill signus at the end of his quests so I don’t know why it says onyx kinsman worship signus

Weird contradicting info there

[scenic olive]

i feel like Yharon should get a new hobby

like

Yharim*

Like fishing

[split mortar]

I was talking about yharon so the correction was wrong

[scenic olive]

bro is so obsessed with killing gods he devoted his entire life to hunt them

[thorny marlin]

yharim in the fucking dragon aerie 😭

[split mortar]

Yeah that ain’t healthy

[split mortar]

Aerie fish

[scenic olive]

Idk

[split mortar]

Yharim fish

[thorny marlin]

auric fish when

[scenic olive]

Couldnt he just make

[split mortar]

Yhish

[scenic olive]

A fishing pole

with a long ass line

[split mortar]

He could sprint at the fish

[thorny marlin]

auric fishing pole that kills all the fish when you try to fish with it 🤑

[scenic olive]

Yhish

Yharfish

what if Yharim was a short guy

[split mortar]

Yharim yhishing for the yharfish in the yhaerie

[scenic olive]

how would that change calamity

[split mortar]

Uh he would need yharon to get the top shelf

[scenic olive]

he is still as strong as before

[scenic olive]

top of the yhelf

[split mortar]

Can calamitas handle spicy foods?

[scenic olive]

what if no

What if she is allergic to Capsaicin

[split mortar]

Then this is her after eating one

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[scenic olive]

goddamnit

[split mortar]

Fovos would not like spicy food

[thorny marlin]

he's 8,1

he can reach it trust

[split mortar]

Yeah hence why it’s a theoretical if he were short

[scenic olive]

ok cool

[pliant ruin]

Actually

Yeah you're right

[scenic olive]

his sword wouldbe bigger than him

[pliant ruin]

The boss summons are canon in the sense that the items aren't but the tooltips are lol

[scenic olive]

Like

[pliant ruin]

I don't think anybody has pointed that out before

It's a really neat detail

[scenic olive]

bro would look like hes holding a pillar

in the old art

The blade

was around

3m

[indigo glade]

A lot of them were changed in 2.0.3.5 to be more descriptive or accurate to current lore, if they weren't already.

[scenic olive]

and turn him into 5'6 guy

[split mortar]

Sounds like death whistle is canon to me

[pliant ruin]

I should take a look at all of them actually

[indigo glade]

It's a shame that Sandstorm's Core doesn't say anything about why GSS left, or why it came back.

Eye of Desolation is just "She is here."

🔥 ✍️

[pliant ruin]

While not all boss tooltips follow that idea some of them do give insight into things and it's interesting

like

'A key for a glacial prison.

cryo key

[split mortar]

Ah for eye of desolation it just admits yeah you get jumped

[pliant ruin]

what if that's actually what happens

like

you go up to cryogen in a ''dormant'' state in-universe, using the key

and that leads to the inner core exiting and trying to attack you

[split mortar]

And the cryogen fight is like some trial?

[pliant ruin]

I was thinking less a trial and mroe like a security protocol

[split mortar]

Fair

Scal did a good job with this ice prison

[pliant ruin]

I imagine scal knew that yharim and his army might eventually figure out perma is alive

sos he wanted to make sure he'd still be safe, maybe possibly until she could find a way to bring him back without him being at risk

[scenic olive]

Yharmy

[indigo glade]

Just found something interesting.

"An ornate sigil of the Profaned Flame
Hatred yet burns upon its brow"
-Rune of Kos

Was... was Providence angry at something?

[scenic olive]

you killed it

[thorny marlin]

scourge seeking for another meal because it has children to feed 🙏

[indigo glade]

This was added in 2.0.3.003, which means this is new lore.

[split mortar]

Yeah, suffering

[split mortar]

Such a good single mother

[pliant ruin]

Tbh i imagine DS dosen't have good parental care

[scenic olive]

she hates existence fr

[pliant ruin]

It probably just lets its children survive on their own

Atleast i imagine that because it has like

a limbillion offspring

[scenic olive]

must purify them all with holy flames

reduce it to ash

[pliant ruin]

and a animal with that many kids and good parental carel is very rare

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

it's usually either one or the other

[scenic olive]

Also

Say uhh

[split mortar]

Sometimes neither

[pliant ruin]

i imagine it only actually cares for them once they reach a certain point of maturiy (as seen with nuisances)

[scenic olive]

Providence achieved her goals

[pliant ruin]

(the big, nuisance, i mean)

[scenic olive]

what is left for her to do then?

I mean its not possible

[pliant ruin]

lich adventure time fionna and cake

[rotund shore]

She'd probably just, sit around and do nothing

[rotund shore]

REAL

[split mortar]

She may just suicide or do the litch

[pliant ruin]

'ok. now what'

[rotund shore]

I watched fionna and cake a bit ago, oh my god its so good

[split mortar]

It’s adventure time ofcourse it is

[indigo glade]

Kill herself.

[pliant ruin]

AT is my favorite out of the like

CN shows

[scenic olive]

Amazing

[pliant ruin]

the others r still good though

[rotund shore]

I need to rewatch adventure time at some point

[split mortar]

Isn’t it teen titans go nowadays

On cn

Which ain’t great

[indigo glade]

Cartoon Network had some really amazing shows.

[split mortar]

Yeah

[rotund shore]

chat what calamity character would be an adventure time fan

[split mortar]

Yharim would hate it they fight dragons

[indigo glade]

Calamitas.

[split mortar]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

Factual

[split mortar]

Would permafrost and amidias

[scenic olive]

would Yharim

[indigo glade]

Permafrost would watch it with his adopted daughter whenever he could, which means he hasn't been able to see all the episodes, but has seen enough to understand.

[scenic olive]

fight a God that is suspiciously shaped like a dragon

[split mortar]

Yes they’re mocking the dragons grace

[scenic olive]

Ok but what if he didnt know it was a god

and just assumed its a dragon

[split mortar]

Then he would treat it like a dragon till yharon attacks it

[scenic olive]

Hmm makes sense

[warm gull]

what if we discussed lore

[pliant ruin]

daiquiri

i like that name change its a cool name

did yu know silva probably dosent own an air fryer

[split mortar]

Yharon is a air fryer

A great one at that

[pliant ruin]

and silva does in fact not own him

[warm gull]

daiquiri is an alcoholic beverage

[pliant ruin]

i did not know that

it still is a cool name to be honest

[split mortar]

So you’re a alchoholic?

[pliant ruin]

DID SOMEONE SAY ALCOHOLIC

[dusk laurel]

he will be the air fried

[warm gull]

(it's a reference to deadshot daiquiri from cod zombies)

[split mortar]

Ok

[dusk laurel]

alcohol 😋 (can't drink yet im american)

[split mortar]

Supreme calamitas can also be a air fryer

[pliant ruin]

for legal reasons

i am not an alcoholic

that was a joke

[warm gull]

me when the government pays a family of 4 to stand in front of my car whilst I happen to be drunk driving

[pliant ruin]

i already act like someone whos either high or drunk or both when i'm sober if i was an alcoholic i'd like die instantly

[split mortar]

Nah everyone else would you would love

[warm gull]

yhe air got warmer around me

do you think that yharim used yharon to defrost his chicken

[dusk laurel]

he has auric rejection to cook the chicken

[split mortar]

He just slaps a live chicken

[warm gull]

he sets chicken on a table and just sets his hand on it

[rotund shore]

if he slapped a chicken it would explode

[warm gull]

it makes a progressively louder sizzling sound

[split mortar]

Cooked chicken soup

[warm gull]

fun fact daiquiri is pronounced "dackery" in english

because who likes pronounciation consistence am I right

[dusk laurel]

dough trough cough hiccough through thorough etc

most are different

[warm gull]

wait what who spells hiccup as hiccough

[dusk laurel]

really old british people

like 100 years ago

[amber cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1051155277484920974/1264889810921984112/togif-5.gif?=&width=689&height=676

actual misclick

like genuinely

i didnt meant o send that]

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[amber cedar]

i accidentally double clicked when i opened gifs

im not deleting it though

[sleek halo]

not even you expected it

[wheat walrus]

calamity mod

[indigo glade]

True.

[fervent palm]

am i in the lore now

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[mighty zenith]

always was

[split mortar]

Ah so you made the terrarian your self insert

[scenic olive]

mm loaf

[split mortar]

Is rather calamitous

[scenic olive]

Calamity but Fovos died in the story

So now you have to find Providence yourself

god knows where

get it

or should i say 'goddess' knows where

alright im gonna get out

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[dusk laurel]

moon lord strikes again

[gaunt sluice]

Wouldn't it be da query

[warm gull]

no it's pronounced dackery

[gaunt sluice]

Jesus Christ i hate english

[warm gull]

I know it makes no sense

[gaunt sluice]

Best calamity lore right here

[split mortar]

Bold of you to assume English will make sense

[dusk laurel]

middle english when they got rid of 4 phonetic letters that were used a lot

[warm gull]

hello

[dusk laurel]

hello

[magic epoch]

I made hardmoge

[spare pier]

Moon Lord not being Dark Type is kinda insane

Also I still think all Slimes are Water

Like, they are slimy

[indigo glade]

Ah yes, double Water Leviathan.

[magic epoch]

water dragon

anahita is water fairy

[spare pier]

Leviathan should not be Water Dragon

Why?

It's not a Dragon

[magic epoch]

neither is applin

[spare pier]

Ok but we are talking about Calamity

[magic epoch]

if this is actual pokemon logic it would definitely be a dragon type

[soft geyser]

Who wins the trio of dog or dog himself

[magic epoch]

dog

[spare pier]

Where being a big reptile is definitely not enough to classify as a Dragon, when we have an entire subclass of enemies specifically designated as Dragons

Also a lot of things that look like Dragons aren't Dragon type in Pokémon either

[magic epoch]

Also being dragon type is just cool

You can't argue me there

It's fact

[rotund shore]

Applin is meant to be a wyrm

It’s a dumb pun but we ball

[soft geyser]

Deus should be psychic And flying and plague bringer should be steel and bug

[spare pier]

Anyways my disagreements are

[magic epoch]

Pbg would be steel but unfortunately there's only two types

[rotund shore]

I like steel/poison on PBG since it hard counters fairy type; with fairies being connected to nature

[indigo glade]

I thought her origins were purposefully vague.

[soft geyser]

He less poison more steel

[magic epoch]

She's a plague bee

[rotund shore]

She is a form of poison, for sure

[soft geyser]

But he big bug

[soft geyser]

But jets

Big old jets

[magic epoch]

I want to keep the queen bee elements into the typing

[rotund shore]

Tbh poison is also just more interesting lmao

[magic epoch]

And the actual poison is more important

[spare pier]

1 - QS should be Water/Fairy
2 - Leviathan should be Pure Water
3 - Golem should be Rock/Fire
4 - PBG should be Steel/Bug or Steel/Poison
5 - Moon Lord should be Psychic Dark

[magic epoch]

Since it's literally her entire theming

[eager bluff]

pbg is more poison/steel yeah

[rotund shore]

And while this is just my opinion I think it’s rather thematic

[soft geyser]

Psychic ghost I say

[magic epoch]

Agree to disagree

[eager bluff]

nah

[rotund shore]

Why would it be ghost

[soft geyser]

Her pbg has a gender

[eager bluff]

dark type

[spare pier]

I think everything from the Distortion is Dark Type so

[magic epoch]

..?

[soft geyser]

Pbg has a gender

?

[magic epoch]

Yes?

[rotund shore]

Yes, and?

[soft geyser]

I thought it was a it

[true hatch]

Yes? They're literally a Queen Bee, which is female?

[magic epoch]

No

She

[soft geyser]

Ohhhhh

[rotund shore]

I mean they’re queen bees, what do you expect

[soft geyser]

I thought they were multiple pbg and they were mechanical

[spare pier]

Do you call animals by genders? PBG is a her
Do you not call animals by genders? PBG is an it

[eager bluff]

its a queen bee which is assigned female by human standards but its actual gender is just queen

[true hatch]

No, there's only one PBG (I think) and it's not a robot, it's more of a cyborg

[spare pier]

Granted, you could always argue that PBG is more machine than biological by this point

[rotund shore]

There’s only one Goliath yeah

[magic epoch]

But still, pbg can basically just be any of those 3 types

Poison steel and bug, they're all fine

[rotund shore]

We just need to wait til gen 27 where they add Pokémon with 3 types

[spare pier]

I think excluding Steel from it is insane

Because it's literally a robot

[soft geyser]

Exactly

[rotund shore]

I’m going with poison/steel for sure

[soft geyser]

Exactly

[spare pier]

It should be Steel/Poison or Steel/Bug

Because

[soft geyser]

Cyborg

[spare pier]

You can argue that most bugs are venomous

[soft geyser]

Yep

[magic epoch]

I just want to emphasize it's ties to queen bee

[spare pier]

And, well, PBG IS a giant bug

[eager bluff]

bees have a few sexes, they have (for the most part) workers, drones, and queens
workers and drones are generally perceived as masculine, whereas queens are generally perceived as feminine

[spare pier]

Just heavily mechanized

[soft geyser]

Like scorpions that is why drapion is dark and poison

[rotund shore]

Also, being bug type would suck ass for it considering how bad bug type is, throw PBG a bone

[indigo glade]

The point of the nanovirus is more to make things part robot, not to make them sick and in pain.

[magic epoch]

bad example

[soft geyser]

We don’t need to because drapion is not bug but is still connected to scorpiou

[magic epoch]

skorupi is bug poison

[soft geyser]

I know

[spare pier]

Drapion being Dark/Poison is one of the typings of all time

[magic epoch]

genuinely

[true hatch]

Workers are typically percieved as female, I thought?

Drones being percieved as masculine I definitely agree with though

[rotund shore]

For me gliscor is the most dumb type

Where poison

[soft geyser]

I literally wrote how the pre evo can be a different typing but you can still see the ties

[soft geyser]

Fangs

He is based on vampire bats

[spare pier]

Gliscord at least keeps Ground/Flying and it makes enough sense

Where is the Dark in Drapion

[rotund shore]

Gliscor is a fucking scorpion

It should get poison type

[magic epoch]

...you didn't say that

[rotund shore]

Why is it ground??

[eager bluff]

no generally workers are perceived/shown as male

[sinful adder]

Are we doing this talk again

[true hatch]

Ability. It has the ability that heals it when poisoned

[spare pier]

At least Gliscor has Toxic Heal

[soft geyser]

Here

[true hatch]

Not where I live, tbf

[soft geyser]

See I did

[magic epoch]

I thought you meant to say scorpions

not skorupi

[soft geyser]

Because why not right

[spare pier]

I've always heard that all bees are female except drones

[magic epoch]

most bees are females afaik

[true hatch]

Yeah, same here

[eager bluff]

i always heard that all bees are male except queens /shrug

[spare pier]

Which just goes to show

WHY

[magic epoch]

most bees that are males tend to be ones that mate with the queens iirc

[sinful adder]

I heard that too, but I wonder if it's actually true or if they just don't have the same biological sexes

[spare pier]

WHY IS EVERY BUG SOCIETY A MATRIARCHY

[eager bluff]

the better question is why are we assigning human genders to insects

[spare pier]

Like, it just boggles me how

[magic epoch]

bc the queens are big

[indigo glade]

I don't pay attention to the political affairs within bee society.

[spare pier]

Every single bug evolved to prioritized the females over males

[magic epoch]

and the females all have the possibility to be a queen

[soft geyser]

What type is dog I say psychic and maybe dark or steel

[sinful adder]

Biologically beneficial. Also I should note that bees and ants share a common ancestor that worked the same way

[spare pier]

No, I'm not talking about only bees

Or ants

[magic epoch]

i say psychic or dark and dragon

[spare pier]

Or termites

[sinful adder]

Ah

[soft geyser]

No dragon he is a worm not a wyrm

[spare pier]

Praying-mantises are also matriarchies

Remember

[magic epoch]

i know dragon isn't correctti what he is, but it makes sense to me

[true hatch]

Termites are also ants

[eager bluff]

at the very least dark because distortion

[magic epoch]

he is a serpent

[soft geyser]

And steel

[magic epoch]

not a worm

[spare pier]

Female mantises literally canibalize the male after procreation

[sinful adder]

Btw it turns out the head eating thing was a stress response to being in a lab and actually not common in the wild

[indigo glade]

Mmmm, eating your partner's face off after doing the deed.

[solar wharf]

Pokemon again? Did this chat lose out on topics or is everyone here just a massive pokemon fan

[soft geyser]

So dog is Dark and steel

[spare pier]

Ok but again

DoG is not a Dragon in Calamity

[soft geyser]

A bit of both

[magic epoch]

I posted the image again

[spare pier]

And I prioritized our canon over whatever the fuck is going on in Pokémon

[magic epoch]

And that's fine

[eager bluff]

dog is dark/fairy imo

[spare pier]

The only Dragon types are Draconic Offshoots and Yharon

[true hatch]

They need protein to grow those kids, they're going to get it somehow

[magic epoch]

Ngl fairy is more out there than dragon

[spare pier]

DoG is Dark/Psychic to me

[soft geyser]

Steel is a pretty big part of dog his literally armor

[spare pier]

Shrimple

[soft geyser]

That is good too

[true hatch]

Grimsnarl but based????

[eager bluff]

fairy is just generally mythological and dog eats gods so id say dark/fairy works pretty well

[magic epoch]

Steel =/= armor

[spare pier]

Most Distortion things end up as Dark/Psychic lmao

Tho, I do think Phase 2 is Dark/Steel

[soft geyser]

I mean Aragon

He has armor so steal

[indigo glade]

Steelix.

[sinful adder]

The ultra beasts and generally everything space related in pokemon is psychic

[magic epoch]

Steel doesn't ALWAYS mean armor...

[indigo glade]

It literally evolves by having a Metal Coat.

[magic epoch]

That's what I meant

[true hatch]

Both of you literally listed pokemon that aren't armoured but literally made of metal

[magic epoch]

Armor does not ALWAYS come from steel

[spare pier]

Guys

[soft geyser]

In case of dog yes it does

[spare pier]

Escavalier

[civic raven]

what is that thing that dog destroys or consumes after defeating infernum providence?

[spare pier]

[magic epoch]

Her core

[soft geyser]

It is made from draedron steel

[indigo glade]

It evolves via Metal Coat.

[spare pier]

Providence's central crystal is her heart, more or less

[eager bluff]

why are we arguing over pokemon type semantics this is goddamn POKEMON none of it makes any fucking sense

[magic epoch]

It is made from cosmilite, which, as far as I know, is unknown even to draedon

[true hatch]

Yes but it's literally made of metal

It's not just 'coated in metal', it's literally made of metal

[eager bluff]

draedon made dogs armor

[spare pier]

What the fuck else would it be, then?

[soft geyser]

He is the one who made his armor r