Probably keeping it 5–10 pages if I really get into that
#lore-discussion
untold oracle
stark basalt
sinful adder
Why are all the fire things also made of rocks?
Brimstone elemental: has rocks
Providence: rocks and big crystal
mighty zenith
magcargo
split mortar
I guess rocks give a physical ness while still being able to hold the heat feeling or something idfk
sly bloom
Why are all the fire things also made of rocks?
Volcanoes
gaunt sluice
Brimstone elemental: has rocks
Providence: rocks and big crystal
La-vuh
untold bluff
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
We stray farther from god the more this gif is used
And descend into madness
tall crest
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
thank god its the first thing i see opening this channel . i needed my daily fix
rotund shore
Moonlord gif addiction 
frozen zodiac
no more
mighty zenith
untold bluff
the void
sinful adder
we need to seal him away
on some sort of local celestial body
perhaps with cosmic elemental magic
split mortar
The moonlord gif? Who are you a dryad? A dragon?
stark basalt
sinful adder
get banished
split mortar
I doubt that will hold kana back
mighty zenith
wow that took a lot of effort! hopefully xb doesn't get visited by a close friend in his dying moments!
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dusk laurel
untold bluff
get banished
Be careful tonight
devout grotto
The new version of the lore seems really interesting to me so expect me to pop in here from time to time 
sudden ruin
devout grotto
Anyway is there an estimation on how large Terraria is?
dusk laurel
not really
devout grotto
Up to interpretation then 
wheat walrus
Anyway is there an estimation on how large Terraria is?
ingame world is barely over 5km wide at the large world
however
devs usually consider terraria to be as big as irl earth
devout grotto
Oh btw I'm talkimg about lore-wise anyway
sudden ruin
is terraria an island
dusk laurel
well
devout grotto
devs usually consider terraria to be as big as irl earth
🤔
dusk laurel
in game we are only on one continent
wheat walrus
however in-game we are only in a chunk of one continent
sudden ruin
well i mean the in game world
wheat walrus
however in-game we are only in a chunk of one continent
the ingame world is this
split mortar
We play on one continent
devout grotto
Oh yeah does the same apply in Calamity however
wheat walrus
yes that's what it applies to
devout grotto
I see I see
wheat walrus
we were talking calamity here basically :3
warm gull
hi omni
fading sun
dusk laurel
i thought we sealed him away
stark basalt
rotund shore
How did he get free from his prison??
split mortar
It’s kana
dusk laurel
kana is stronger than fovos
rotund shore
where does kana land on the powerscale chart
warm gull
Can you use my sigil baby sigil baby 1 2 3
rotund shore
Can you use my sigil baby sigil baby 1 2 3
dusk laurel
where does kana land on the powerscale chart
probably like nameless
rotund shore
based on vibes, where would I land on the powerscaling chart
wheat walrus
where does kana land on the powerscale chart
beyond dimensionality
beyond all concepts
boundless
thorny marlin
The new version of the lore seems really interesting to me so expect me to pop i...
hi 👋
hot valve
Hi
soft geyser
@rotund shore when did this meme start the moon lord one
rotund shore
<@1202623739980939297> when did this meme start the moon lord one
idk like probably over a month ago at this point
soft geyser
idk like probably over a month ago at this point
Really only that short
rotund shore
I cant say im the most consistently active person in this channel
soft geyser
I cant say im the most consistently active person in this channel
Fair
thorny marlin
ok hi
split mortar
I started being active like a month ago and it was active then, prob much longer
stark basalt
split mortar
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
Why do you send that gif
What is your intricate kana lore
stark basalt
My goal is to be added to terraria calamity mod.
In any form, as a weapon, an npc, a paiting, maybe a boss, i do not care.
split mortar
Fair enough
stark basalt
Ill do anything i need...
stark basalt
To accomplish my goals...
split mortar
Good luck on that
hot valve
Kana your goals…good luck on accomplishing such feats
rotund shore
imagine kana playing the long con and joining a dev team just to get in calamity
woeful patio
Then immediately quit right after
sinful adder
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
N O
BACK
stark basalt
split mortar
Kana is undefeatable
frozen zodiac
we gotta kill him
thick slate
ok chat maybe stop spamming it as much
warm gull
coke moderation live event
split mortar
Ok kana maybe stop
thick slate
coke moderation live event
unheard of
warm gull
I think flawless runner probably hails from calreddit
thorny marlin
I think flawless runner probably hails from calreddit
no I posted in calamity reddit that the calamity ost was better used in slap battles then in calamity
warm gull
When I said "hails from" I meant that I believe it was your place of origin
soft geyser
What type of voice best suits dog
thorny marlin
What type of voice best suits dog
idk imagine what voice a egotiscial cosmic worm would have
warm gull
soft geyser
idk imagine what voice a egotiscial cosmic worm would have
So low and grumbly
stark basalt
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
LMFAOOO
stark basalt
You will see that thing half the time you look in this chat
I open this server like once a week not even to interact just to see the changelogs, idfk how I ended up here lol
Worth it imo
split mortar
Fair
thorny marlin
😟
spring helm
i thought you would like it
frozen zodiac
What type of voice best suits dog
metal face from xenoblade chronicles 1 (british)
thorny marlin
i thought you would like it
I do
thick slate
i could beat draedon in hand to hand fight
i could also beat thanatos with my hands
yes
ask draedon
thorny marlin
i could beat draedon in hand to hand fight
anyone could beat draedon in a hand to hand fight
frozen zodiac
doesnt his recon body take like 1000000% more damage from every weapon
drowsy osprey
dumbledore said calmly
true hatch
doesnt his recon body take like 1000000% more damage from every weapon
Minimum 30k damage taken, iirc.
Alongside everything doing 1000x damage
true hatch
Crabulon gets solo'd by common weed killer though.
What does this mean for the powerscaling tier list
warm gull
crabulon can't be killed by weed killer he's a zombie!
zombies are immune to weed killer
split mortar
Sounds like you’re not using enough weed killer
true hatch
Nah he's animated by fungus. 2 litres of weedBgone and he's toast
true hatch
its also bones
The fungus is what makes it move. Kill all the fungus and it's literally just a corpse
drowsy osprey
otherwise people are gon call you a bad person for killing crabs
true hatch
It's already dead I'm just killing the mold that's desecrating its corpse
drowsy osprey
yeah but
which npcs are gonna believe you when you say “I SWEAR I KILLED THE FUNGUS THAT WAS USING ITS LARGE CORPSE TO KILL ME!1!1”
true hatch
Also debuff weakness is cool and all
But why do we not have damage type weaknesses. Is it because they don't want to force people to use specific weapons in specific fights?
split mortar
Just grab flymeal
warm gull
mushrooms aren't weeds duh
split mortar
Also debuff weakness is cool and all
But why do we not have damage type weaknes...
Maybe, at some stages like miracle matter it is kinda the only tyoe you would get though
true hatch
which npcs are gonna believe you when you say “I SWEAR I KILLED THE FUNGUS THAT ...
They better. I'm giving them cheap houses with minimal rent. Or even no rent sometimes.
They should be happy that I'm not forcing them to live on the streets
thorny marlin
probably cant walk
he had too be able to walk SOMEHOW when he first woke up
thick slate
nah he crawled around
peak pasture
They better. I'm giving them cheap houses with minimal rent. Or even no rent som...
the terrarian is a landlord that fights ferociously to protect their tenants
and sometimes even dies for them
frozen zodiac
least realistic landlord depiction
thick slate
makesure to tip your landlord
warm gull
Can you beat terraria as only the landlord class?
magic epoch
So... Coin gun?
sinful adder
nah he crawled around
Is this canon
Did original Draedon crawl
That would be funny
real silo
Spidon
spring helm
could you turn energy into mana
if so
draedon could make a star
that would be cool
solar wharf
if stars as big as planets exists
would something like a dyson sphere be able to be made
to harvest all that mana
true hatch
"Stars as big as planets"
IDK about Calamity lore, but it's assuming stars still follow the general rule of 'what star do', there's probably stars of all kinds of sizes
solar wharf
"Stars as big as planets"
IDK about Calamity lore, but it's assuming stars stil...
in calamity lore, the stars that fall from the sky are what stars are
so the only size we have is one at the palm of your hand
however the sun exists
and its confirmed to not really be a star tho
i was moreso thinking if are just pure mana clumped to each other, wouldnt there be a chance for a star to clump together to reach size of celestial objects
true hatch
Ok I feel like if that's canon someone doesn't know how stars work.
If that's how they are, stars are like... maybe a few kilometres above the ground, or otherwise you're not seeing them at all
solar wharf
Ok I feel like if that's canon someone doesn't know how stars work.
If that's h...
no, its the same sense as to how gods in calamity dont follow the basic definiton
true hatch
I always kind of read the "Stars are made out of Mana" thing to just be "Yeah they're still the same size they just produce light via some magical reaction instead of nuclear fusion"
solar wharf
they just created a new definiton of it
true hatch
No I mean they literally could not be space borne (Which they canonically are) if they were that small. Or otherwise the night sky would be pitch black because they're all too small to see
solar wharf
it never was stated that was the only star size
canonically they are lumped up mana together
its not insane to assume some reached huge sizes due to mana
solar wharf
No I mean they literally could not be space borne (Which they canonically are) i...
thats also assuming other suns dont exist
stars dont need to be the one illuminating space
although suns are stars, just not in calamity
they dont seem to be built off of mana because they produce "primordial" light while other stars dont
unless thats something that happens similar to fusion when mass amount of mana is added, not sure
sinful adder
Stars range from hand sized to asteroid sized. Making a star is surprisingly easy, we do it in game with mana stars
A dev said this somewhere
solar wharf
so then other suns do exist because space is illuminated
unless im gaslitting myself into remembering stars in the backgrounds
sinful adder
A Dyson sphere would be kind of unnecessary when it would really be more like... A kinda big battery. Draedon already has infinite energy with exo prisms, so it's also unnecessary
solar wharf
was moreso talking about mana wise
if you were to find a star that massive, consuming it at once i assume wouldnt be possible
it makes most sense to as you say
sinful adder
unless im gaslitting myself into remembering stars in the backgrounds
There are stars in the background, but those are the small ones orbiting terraria, rather than the sun ones far away
solar wharf
There are stars in the background, but those are the small ones orbiting terrari...
they would need to be very close tho
sinful adder
There might be other suns but they'd be extremely far away
solar wharf
or all of them are all asteroid sized
sinful adder
they would need to be very close tho
They are very close
solar wharf
they would basically need to be in the atomsphere is what im saying
sinful adder
They may also be magic, and be brighter than they should be for their size
solar wharf
ig
sinful adder
They're right outside the atmosphere
solar wharf
i dont think you understand how high the atmosphere is
or what we consider space atleast
solar wharf
we sure terraria is small?
sinful adder
We don't know how small
solar wharf
did we ever get confirmation its smaller than earth
solar wharf
we got confirmation the area we are in is nowhere detailed
so it isnt anything to go by
sinful adder
We should ask a dev
Or writer, about the star thing
How far away they are and such
solar wharf
if continents were anywhere near as small as what the game shows
im hella fucking surprised how a minimal of 150 million people + ecosystems and dragons
who are way bigger
managed all to exist
in a continent
got that statistic from here
if the minimal death count from the crusade is 150m, then a population should be around that
obviously crusade has happened overtime, so people were born
it isnt an outright population confirmation but for 150m people to die, that means they had to have existed at some point
since the crusades didnt go on for centuries, its fair to assume the timespan wasnt big enough to add an extra 50 million people via birth
so the population of a continent should be around that
meant didnt, my bad
sinful adder
Actually yeah the world is definitely larger than we see in game, that's been stated, but we don't know how large
real silo
No I mean they literally could not be space borne (Which they canonically are) i...
The ones we see in the sky might just be the really big ones
it could also be that all stars are big but when they fall to the planet they lose most of their mass and become the tiny ones we see
nocturne stag
Plot twist, the world of terraria is millions of kilometers, and everything is super-sized and you are a kaiju
stark basalt
rotund shore
Man
untold oracle
You gotta make it up for not sending it for a while
sinful adder
He keeps escaping banishment
reef nova
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
If I see this one more time I'm gonna no-hit infernum SCal and make myself go insane
Anyway
What would the other dragons think of our current Yharon?
I wonder.
Yharon did a couple of bad things
so...
If the dragons were still alive
would it be possible that he'd be banished or something?
untold oracle
Pretty sure the dragons wouldn’t wanna lose practical immortality
pliant ruin
I think it depends on the dragon given
again
the entire Deal with calamity is that diff ppl will be different
etc etc
but
i think its
reasonable to say some would look at yharon with disappointment or disgust
while others would fully support him
and maybe some of them would just be there like
"yoo lets go people are dying!!!" (cough cough dragon of flame if i had to guess cough cough)
hoary berry
there were probably dragons that would be of a similar mindset to yharon, some that would strongly oppose him, others that would be on the fence between going against the moral tragedy that is the crusade and keeping his gift of immortality (assuming him helping to revive other auric dragons isn't fully automatic and instead requires his direct involvement)
pliant ruin
some dragons would probably try reasoning with yharon too
lçike
"look man ik what youve been through cuz were going through it too but this is not a good way to handle it"
like simultaneously tell him to not be a Ass whilst also providing comfort cuz admittedly yharon kind of Went Through It
sinful adder
That made me think. Yharon was undoubtedly in a position of power over literally all the dragons, even Zeratros, due to the fact that he could effectively kill any of them effortlessly by simply not reviving them
reef nova
That made me think. Yharon was undoubtedly in a position of power over literally...
True...
pliant ruin
i imagine if he did that zeratros would go "dude what the fuck. stop"
but
technically yeah
like in order for him to do that to zeratros
sinful adder
What if Yharon told Yharim what he did about zeratros dying and Xeroc doing his thing not because it's true, but because zeratros found a way to escape yharon's control
pliant ruin
zeratros would ahve to die in the first place
sinful adder
By becoming xeroc
pliant ruin
What if Yharon told Yharim what he did about zeratros dying and Xeroc doing his ...
i mean
that'd certainly be a plot twist
but
incredibly doubtful
not only coz , again
sinful adder
I can't think of a reason it would be untrue. The entire story of calamity happening comes from Yharon telling that story to yharim. He could easily lie about it
Or even rationalize that it's basically close enough to true to himself
pliant ruin
zeratros would need to Die in the first place for this control to be asserted over him
but also because from a actual meta story standpoint it'd come out of nowhere and not rly add anything to the overarching plot other than shock value and a big plot twist
like i doubt yharon would have any control over zeratros when zeratros could just
kick his ass
sinful adder
zeratros would need to Die in the first place for this control to be asserted ov...
Also, he'd only have to wait for zeratros to die of old age. Which dragons did
Whereas Yharon will come back on his own
reef nova
Let's ask ourselver this first: Hkw exactly strong is Zeratros and what r his hax?
Powers
pliant ruin
no
reef nova
I mean.
pliant ruin
not powerscaling
stop
no
we're talking about LORE not POWERSCALING we are NOT DOING THAT
reef nova
I'm sorry, I'm sorry
pliant ruin
neuron actgivation
sinful adder
I also suspect that maybe the reason why Yharon died in the first place and was being reborn was because Xeroc kicked his ass when he tried to stop the ascension
pliant ruin
Anyways i disagree with this because once again
From a meta perspective it'd come completely out of nowhere, be unsatisfying narratively (given yharon would be basically the, err, ''true" villain and you'd kill him like 3 bosses ago) and not really contribute much to the overarching plot other than just being kind of a unexpected plot twist with nothing really suggesting it previously
stark basalt
pliant ruin
like plot twists r cool and all but only when they actually meaningfully contribute to a story
this one dosen't rly feel like itdoes that it just feels like a plot twist for the sake of a plot twist
reef nova
Is there even a way of ACTUALLY killing Yharon?
pliant ruin
yeah
sinful adder
Yharim still orchestrated the whole genocide, he's just as bad
pliant ruin
auric soul
reef nova
That is NOT absorbing his auric soul? Or like stelaing it
pliant ruin
Yharim still orchestrated the whole genocide, he's just as bad
Never said he's not bad
That wasn't what i was trying to get at
sinful adder
That is NOT absorbing his auric soul? Or like stelaing it
Sure, consume or capture his soul somehow. There are probably other ways
woeful patio
That is NOT absorbing his auric soul? Or like stelaing it
Infinite spawn killing machine on Yharon
pliant ruin
Yharon is not the main villain, regardless of how malicious you see him as
With this he'd more or less be forced to be the main villain
Providence is just as evil as Yharim (Arguably more) yet she's definitely not the mod's main villain
reef nova
Sure, consume or capture his soul somehow. There are probably other ways
Think Dradeon could come with an idea for that?
sinful adder
I think so
true hatch
Providence is just as evil as Yharim (Arguably more) yet she's definitely not th...
Yharim did Genocide for a cause (even if it was a bad one).
Providence wanted to do a genocide because she thought it would be funny
reef nova
I'm sure an auric soul wouldnbe plenty useful for him
pliant ruin
I mean
woeful patio
Why wouldn't he want to do that then?
pliant ruin
Yharim did Genocide for a cause (even if it was a bad one).
Providence wanted t...
I mean providence also has a cause
(It's also a bad one though)
true hatch
Her 'cause' is literally just omnicide
reef nova
Yharim did Genocide for a cause (even if it was a bad one).
Providence wanted t...
Still smash ngl
sinful adder
Yharon and yharim are basically inextricably linked. They might as well both be the main villains
pliant ruin
but
the main diff is
yharim atleast shows empathy
providence disregards Life as a whole as meaningless and shows
0 signs of empathy towwards literally Anyone
DISCORD
PLEASE
sinful adder
Still smash ngl
Can you not
pliant ruin
Yharon and yharim are basically inextricably linked. They might as well both be ...
nah not really
true hatch
Like, her whole thing is "I want to kill literally everyone"
reef nova
Can you not
I apologize
pliant ruin
yharim is the main villain, from a writing perspective, there's no real avoiding that
cloud ibex
Still smash ngl
I’m gonna smash your skull with a large rock
pliant ruin
Like, her whole thing is "I want to kill literally everyone"
Providence's omnicidal tendencies are less for her own amusemetn and more because
hoary berry
DISCORD
i was so confused when you started sending messages at 1000wpm but discord delaying sending the messages makes a lot more sense lmao
pliant ruin
extreme nihilism
pliant ruin
So she does in fact have a motive but
the motive is
even worse than yharim's debatably
I think she's worse purely on the basis she seems to genuinely not feel empathy towards anyone
Like
sinful adder
Providence is the Lord of frenzied flame
pliant ruin
Yharim is a evil motherfucker but you can still see signs of humanity
Providence is more akin to the
cloud ibex
Providence is the Lord of frenzied flame
You know I can kinda see that
true hatch
extreme nihilism
Nihilists when they're told others actually enjoy life:
cloud ibex
From my limited knowledge of elden ring lore
untold oracle
Still smash ngl
sinful adder
I wish it wasn't a dick move to ping lore writers because I want to see what they think about my theory
pliant ruin
Evil Thing that you can Barely Even Tell was Ever Human due to how any signs of her previous humanity seem either gone or completely warped
pliant ruin
I wish it wasn't a dick move to ping lore writers because I want to see what the...
I mean it's kind of annoying
reef nova
I wish it wasn't a dick move to ping lore writers because I want to see what the...
I'll do it for you
pliant ruin
Personally i don't mind pings but getting pinged to answer every little thing regarding smth i work on is
kind of annoying yeah
specially whenlike
most of the questions arent things they can answer anyways
reef nova
Auric soul and body
true hatch
Evil Thing that you can Barely Even Tell was Ever Human due to how any signs of ...
Except killing her isn't even a mercy kill. It's not like she's suffering or anything, she's just psychopathic
untold oracle
most of the questions arent things they can answer anyways
How was Xeroc as a child?
reef nova
Maybe like super advanced necromancy?
pliant ruin
Except killing her isn't even a mercy kill. It's not like she's suffering or any...
Yeah she's just
untold oracle
And somehow getting your hands on an auric soul
The thing is that they’re all eaten
pliant ruin
utterly and completely gone from whatver she used to be to the point she's more of an stereotypical "force of evil" type antagonist than a actual Human
like
untold oracle
Feasted on in an auric buffet
pliant ruin
can you imagine
a person acting like how providence acts
because
tehcnically
she's a perosn
but we don't realize that cuz she looks like a giant flaming rock creature
so like
can you imagine how even more unhinged
she would seem
true hatch
utterly and completely gone from whatver she used to be to the point she's more ...
TBF the bestiary entries for the Profaned Guardians imply that she was always like that
sinful adder
There is no way to bring back any living thing without it's soul. Any attempts to do so will make a different creature that is not the original
pliant ruin
if her design was that of a Normal Person
like we don't realize how unhinged she is because our brain registers her as a big fantasy monster
but
reef nova
And somehow getting your hands on an auric soul
.
pliant ruin
then you remember she's
literally just a human
and its like
oh . right. shes really fucked up
reef nova
She a crazy woman fr fr
pliant ruin
(a human turned into a god, but still
sinful adder
TBF the bestiary entries for the Profaned Guardians imply that she was always li...
It's weird. A single line in there implies that something might have been different. The objective narrator calls it "righteous fury" or something
pliant ruin
calamity has some banger villains
yharim and provi are kind of cool as hell
in fact i realized the main villain for my own writing project has a good few similarities with provi a while back
reef nova
yharim and provi are kind of cool as hell
I wish Yharon wasn't one of them
Had me switching to Zeratros
mf
pliant ruin
Zeratros is cooler anyways
reef nova
Zeratros is cooler anyways
I guess
true hatch
And it's not even some grand thing about like, humanity being flawed or anything
Her reasoning is literally just "I want to kill everyone".
Yharim points out in the lore for her that she just collects nihilists, not that she's actually nihilistic herself
reef nova
But there isn't a lot known about him so far
sinful adder
Yharon looks awesome. Parrots are cool.
pliant ruin
much prefer the primordial light aesthethic over the spicy mcchicken
yeah yharon looks cool
but zeratros (even if we don't have an official design yet) is cooler by virtue of primordial light being a cool aesthethic
sinful adder
And it's not even some grand thing about like, humanity being flawed or anything...
Isn't it? She specifically wants to end suffering by ending all life
reef nova
Yharon looks awesome. Parrots are cool.
untold oracle
Yharon looks awesome. Parrots are cool.
Not to mention corn(?) growing out of his body
reef nova
My parrot
sinful adder
Too bad he's evil as hell
pliant ruin
I think we don't know enough to say if provi is actually nihilistic or if seh's just
yay murder : D
both options seem
equally as plausible though
reef nova
Too bad he's evil as hell
Fr, he looked so floofy aswell
pliant ruin
and honestly i'd be fine with either
reef nova
pliant ruin
they're both interestign, narratively
sinful adder
I think we don't know enough to say if provi is actually nihilistic or if seh's ...
Somewhere specifically says she aims to end suffering and inequality by reducing the world to sinless ash, IIRC
true hatch
and honestly i'd be fine with either
Either way the end result is her wanting to commit omnicide
pliant ruin
yeah nobody is denying that provi is really fucked up
sh's like
the single most evil character in the lore
except maybe noxus but that depends on wtf that guy wants to do
i mean he's definitely some flavour of evil
reef nova
Fr, he looked so floofy aswell
Atleast we still got Dragonfollies to hug and cuddle
untold oracle
except maybe noxus but that depends on wtf that guy wants to do
What does he need all that god essence for?
reef nova
They're more friend-sized than Yharon anyway
untold oracle
He wants to contaminate the world with corruption
pliant ruin
i doubt it'd be that simple
untold oracle
By littering god corpses everywhere
reef nova
He wants to contaminate the world with corruption
He wants his paradise back
scenic olive
calamitous
pliant ruin
noxus actually just wants to sue xeroc for jaywalking taht one time
the distortion is britain
reef nova
Yharim causes climate change
Dradeon literally polluted a whole fucking ocean
and changed it's whole wildlife
untold oracle
Wait
pliant ruin
not really
untold oracle
Yharim killed like 200mil right
true hatch
Dradeon literally polluted a whole fucking ocean
No the Sulphurous Sea was already like that, almost
pliant ruin
he just made it ab it stinkier (as in added nuclear waste
he did change it yeah
it can be seen thru some of the acid rain enemies (specially nuclear terror)
but
reef nova
I guess so
true hatch
He just added "radiation poison" to the list of ways it could kill you
untold oracle
Yharim killed like 200mil right
Imagine the amount of co2 being saved because less people breathing
reef nova
I got rusty with the lore
pliant ruin
the ecosystem as a whole didn't change drastically
untold oracle
Yharim is a climate activist fr
pliant ruin
like it was always sulphuric and draedon just added Radioactive ontop of it
reef nova
like it was always sulphuric and draedon just added Radioactive ontop of it
Which still fucked up a bunch of things
in there
true hatch
Also, IDK how true it is, but Draedon says that if the sea starts threatening biodiversity or shit he could clean it up in like, 10 minutes
reef nova
Also, IDK how true it is, but Draedon says that if the sea starts threatening bi...
Crazy
pliant ruin
Which still fucked up a bunch of things
Ya
reef nova
Actuallu
pliant ruin
Also, IDK how true it is, but Draedon says that if the sea starts threatening bi...
Yeah he does say that
in draetalk
reef nova
Dradeon is smart enough to do A LOT of stuff
reef nova
wouldn't be surprised if he found a way to extract an auroc soul from Yharon before we kill him
frigid hedge
Also, IDK how true it is, but Draedon says that if the sea starts threatening bi...
He says that about the jungle plague
I think
Not the sea
reef nova
wouldn't be surprised if he found a way to extract an auroc soul from Yharon bef...
Bit he didn't
pliant ruin
he could literally fix both in like a day
reef nova
Prolly cuz he wanted to test the subject, us.
sinful adder
He could probably turn off the plague at will, since I assume it's connected to him
true hatch
hes literally just
TBF the Sulphurous Sea does have a lot of biodiversity, and un-fucking it would basically kill 90% of what lives there, so it's also pretty bad on the wildlife to do that as well
pliant ruin
TBF the Sulphurous Sea *does* have a lot of biodiversity, and un-fucking it woul...
No yeah i agree
Removing the stinky from the stinky sea
would be more of ecoloigcal terrorism than
letting it stay there
the only thing that prob
sinful adder
It's maybe kinda good that the environment is like that there
pliant ruin
should be actually removed ideally
true hatch
At this point it's like "yeah it's like that and it's not a problem so we're going to not bother trying to fix it"
reef nova
would be more of ecoloigcal terrorism than
I wish it was still piss sea
pliant ruin
is the nuclear waste
since that one is recent and is negatively affecting the enviroment
as seen with
the existence of nuclear terror
true hatch
is the nuclear waste
Pretty sure Draedon also said he stopped dumping nuclear waste in there because he found more efficient ways of creating power
frigid hedge
What about the abyss though
We know that Silva did some funsies down there. How would it change if Draedon were to un-pollute it? Would there still be primordial wyrm and all that stuff?
sinful adder
Pretty sure Draedon also said he stopped dumping nuclear waste in there because ...
Yeah he has infinite energy from exo prisms now
frigid hedge
Didn't pollute it but changed it
sinful adder
Silva has been there a long time, twice actually
pliant ruin
it's just that her existence let it have an actual ecosystem to begin with
Realistically
if it wasnt for silva
reef nova
What about the abyss though
We know that Silva did some funsies down there. How ...
Did dradeon have anything to do with the abyss though?
sinful adder
Did dradeon have anything to do with the abyss though?
No
frigid hedge
Did dradeon have anything to do with the abyss though?
Idk, that's why I'm asking
pliant ruin
wildlife consists of tiny shitty fish and worms and squids
draedon has laserfish
those r supposed to be draedon drones
but
sinful adder
wildlife consists of tiny shitty fish and worms and squids
And crabs
reef nova
Idk, that's why I'm asking
Well, nothing would change down there
pliant ruin
the bestiary ingame rn is otudated
true hatch
it's just that her existence let it have an actual ecosystem to begin with
I mean there'd still be stuff in there.
No Reaper Sharks though. But honestly big squid would probably still live in there
pliant ruin
I mean there'd still be stuff in there.
No Reaper Sharks though. But honestly b...
Well
there'd be big squids yeah
but not
our big squid
more like actual Normal giant squids and stuff
true hatch
Eidolon Wyrms are based on the Ghost Leviathan from Subnautica, which already eat microorganisms and live in a place devoid of most other life
So they'd probably be chilling tbh
reef nova
Guys, guys. What would be the cuddliest creature lore-wise?
pliant ruin
Eidolon wyrms would
probably not do very well
if the abyss didnt have silva
my idea is that
wyrms already existed
but they moved into the abyss
and silva's influence is what allowed them to thrive there
woeful patio
Guys, guys. What would be the cuddliest creature lore-wise?
Yharom
sinful adder
Guys, guys. What would be the cuddliest creature lore-wise?
In terms of behavior or physical traits?
pliant ruin
because deep sea enviroments are
true hatch
if the abyss didnt have silva
I'm pretty sure they're literally already filter feeders, I think they'd be chilling
pliant ruin
incredibly lacking in nutrients
pliant ruin
I'm pretty sure they're literally already filter feeders, I think they'd be chil...
that
dosent rly change anything
sinful adder
Yharon and the dragon follies in physical traits
pliant ruin
they're basically whale sized animals
hoary berry
Guys, guys. What would be the cuddliest creature lore-wise?
i wanted to say ghost bells because the upcoming resprites look amazing and cool but
reef nova
In terms of behavior or physical traits?
Hm. Behaviour.
pliant ruin
deep sea enviroments generally Don't have enough
sources of food in them to sustain a filter feeder of that mass
reef nova
i wanted to say ghost bells because the upcoming resprites look amazing and cool...
Can't even touch them
true hatch
dosent rly change anything
My logic is that they're based on Ghost Leviathans from Subnautica.
Which already live in a place devoid of basically all nutrients. And they do just fine
woeful patio
Maybe to Yharim.
A small price to pay is genocide
pliant ruin
My logic is that they're based on Ghost Leviathans from Subnautica.
Which alrea...
But
ghost leviathans
aren't real
reef nova
A small price to pay is genocide
true hatch
aren't real
Neither are Eidolon Wyrms 
reef nova
Yharon and the dragon follies in physical traits
Me love dragonfollie
pliant ruin
in a hypotheticl scenariow here Silva wasn't There and based of
real life knowledge of how Ecosystems Work
sinful adder
Whales live in the middle of nowhere with only microscopic food to eat. Wyrms would survive.
pliant ruin
i don't think like over half of the things in the abyss would exist
pliant ruin
Whales live in the middle of nowhere with only microscopic food to eat. Wyrms wo...
Whales
do not live
in abyssal trenches
sinful adder
Just less of them
pliant ruin
yall im literally THE fish nerd you are NOT arguing with me on this
reef nova
yall im literally THE fish nerd you are NOT arguing with me on this
Okay. Are primordial wyrms hugable then, hm? Can you tame them? If yes, how?
pliant ruin
i meant fish nerd as in the real life fish department but uhhh idk probably
sinful adder
The thing is though, I'm pretty sure the wyrms were there before Silva, because they were there in the dragon times
reef nova
How do they express affection?
pliant ruin
I think it's implied wyrms came to the abyss no?
Like to escape the dragon hunt
They didn't originate from there
sinful adder
Oh I guess
reef nova
Anyway, behaviour wise, what's the cuddliest creature? Mr. goat xbxbxb133?
frigid hedge
Guys, guys. What would be the cuddliest creature lore-wise?
The exo mechs
reef nova
The exo mechs
Real
frigid hedge
If I have to choose one then Ares
pliant ruin
glutton bug
reef nova
Just gotta ask Dradeon for permission and make him program "cuddle-mode" into them
woeful patio
The exo mechs
Especially Thanatos cozy metal melting warmth
reef nova
If I have to choose one then Ares
I'd preder Thanatos
reef nova
Especially Thanatos cozy metal melting warmth <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
Relatable
sinful adder
Anyway, behaviour wise, what's the cuddliest creature? Mr. goat xbxbxb133?
Some random critter you forgot exists
reef nova
Some random critter you forgot exists
Something more friend sized and that I can hug?
Please?
woeful patio
Calamitas?
reef nova
frigid hedge
If not the exo mechs then the guide
reef nova
Calamitas?
WHUH??
woeful patio
sinful adder
Sea minnow
reef nova
Are we still talking about the same thing here?
pliant ruin
why
reef nova
I feel like she isn't a very "touchy" person
pliant ruin
yall calamitas isnt a psycho taht kills people who show her affection i hate how much the community mischaracterizes her 💔
reef nova
yall calamitas isnt a psycho taht kills people who show her affection i hate how...
Never said she was.
I only said she probably wouldn't enjoy being touched
pliant ruin
Yeah but 60% of the community has
true hatch
I only said she probably wouldn't enjoy being touched
Yeah but she also wouldn't kill you
pliant ruin
No you said ''you'd probably die"
reef nova
Yeah but she also wouldn't kill you
You'll never know
pliant ruin
yeah i agree she prob isn't like incredibly touchy
reef nova
Unless we get a Calamity dating sim
pliant ruin
i can guarantee you the last thing cal would want to do is kill anybody
reef nova
Unless we get a Calamity dating sim
(PLEASE)
pliant ruin
we won't because calamitas is aroace don't say that
real silo
Unless we get a Calamity dating sim
we already have one
pliant ruin
go date draedon or something instead
real silo
Go to codebreaker
pliant ruin
yeah
frigid hedge
I would introduce Calamitas to power metal
true hatch
I mean, she might hurt you, but even in that case it would probably be accidental or something
frigid hedge
She'd like it
pliant ruin
I mean, she might *hurt you*, but even in that case it would probably be acciden...
this
this is very real
unless you were someone she truly despised she might hurt you accidentaly due to her low emotional control and in a situation she did she'd ptrobably feel bad and apologize
reef nova
I see, I see
pliant ruin
said this b4 but if she actually managed to kill the terrarian she'd feel good for like 10 minutes then have the worst mental breakdown of her life
reef nova
said this b4 but if she actually managed to kill the terrarian she'd feel good f...
I mean
We are kind of evil
No?
true hatch
No
pliant ruin
unless you amke your character be evil
but at a base
nothing the terrarian does is evil
frigid hedge
You can't call me evil after I dig a bajillion hellevators to purify the world
true hatch
90% of the shit we kill is either non-sentient or outright evil
reef nova
unless you amke your character be evil
We're basicaly doing the same Yharim was doing before he became evil
true hatch
We're basicaly doing the same Yharim was doing before he became evil
Not even close
split mortar
frigid hedge
We're basicaly doing the same Yharim was doing before he became evil
Nah I'm just following a checklist
real silo
nah yharim was evil from the start
pliant ruin
we're not commiting genocide out of a group we have a prejudicial hatred towards
reef nova
Nah I'm just following a checklist
sinful adder
Something more friend sized and that I can hug?
The only living animal in the mod that isn't a robot or a baby version of a hostile critter or something that runs away when you approach is the sea minnow
pliant ruin
we're killing things that are evil and trying to kill us
reef nova
we're not commiting genocide out of a group we have a prejudicial hatred towards
What about guide?
pliant ruin
what abt him
real silo
we're acting in self defense
frigid hedge
What about guide?
He deserves only the worst
reef nova
Y'know god damn well
sinful adder
reef nova
what I''m talking about
pliant ruin
guide wof summoning is not canon lol
p sure it isnt anyways cuz theres 0 explanation for it
split mortar
The guide pretty much tells us to sacrifice him even if it ain’t canon
pliant ruin
and no ties of WoF in the mod's lore to guide
true hatch
Also I feel like it's reasonable to assume that even if the Terrarian isn't immortal, they probably didn't no-hit everything, so they probably have some level of durability
This is going back to "Calamitas killing the player" thing
reef nova
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Sea_Minnow
Cute.
pliant ruin
Also I feel like it's reasonable to assume that even if the Terrarian isn't immo...
Yeah i think the terrarian nohitting everything would b
kinda crazy
i mean
depending on ur own headcanon
you could make them do that
but for mine yeah uhh no she
didnt do that
reef nova
Neither did mine
true hatch
Blood Pact extreme regen go brr
frigid hedge
In my headcanon the terrarian did the dark soul strat of carrying a greatsword twice his size and running around half naked
reef nova
In my headcanon the terrarian did the dark soul strat of carrying a greatsword t...
Amazing.
Spectacular.
Astonishing.
split mortar
That’s just called early game melee
reef nova
That’s just called early game melee
So real
true hatch
Mine alternates between "Fine I'll do it myself" Tmelee tankiness and "Rattle em boys" summoner... laziness, in their case
frigid hedge
Heart of the elements in a vanity slot
reef nova
Like that one summon that drops from Yharon I think
true hatch
Heart of the elements in a vanity slot
I found a... very funny bug with this the other day actually
split mortar
Kindle staff
split mortar
Aren’t they like now mostly bone and fire or something
real silo
yeah
true hatch
Apparently if you have Rose Stone and Heart of the Elements equipped at the same time
All the summons despawn and respawn every tick, turning you into a fountain of particles
real silo
The old fat nuggets are dead
reef nova
Aren’t they like now mostly bone and fire or something
Hugable enough.
split mortar
The old fat nuggets are dead
split mortar
No
reef nova
Yikes bro
frigid hedge
I'm nameless deity, so no
split mortar
Neither is their interpretation of noxus
reef nova
I'm nameless deity, so no
Cap
true hatch
"Can you encounter it in base Calamity"
If no, there's a 95% chance it's not canon. There are outliers, but still
split mortar
I'm nameless deity, so no
You very much have a name, you are the named deity at best
frigid hedge
Damn they're on to me
split mortar
"Can you encounter it in base Calamity"
If no, there's a 95% chance it's not ca...
Those outliers being?
true hatch
Also I just realised, imagine what the NPCs or sentient summons are thinking when you're building an arena. Just walking around and placing shit almost aimlessly
reef nova
And das all we get till 2040 when we get the next boss
split mortar
but das all we got rn
True
frigid hedge
Those outliers being?
Yharim
calm patio
I'm nameless deity, so no
If you were nameless deity, you wouldnt have a name
true hatch
Those outliers being?
Noxus. They canonically exist, but like... they're never mentioned in game outright
split mortar
Fair
frigid hedge
If you were nameless deity, you wouldnt have a name
Well Gus is merely my nickname. You don't know if I really have a name
split mortar
nickNAME
reef nova
Noxus. They canonically exist, but like... they're never mentioned in game outri...
Epicenter of Entropy 💯
split mortar
still have a name of some kind
calm patio
Well Gus is merely my nickname. You don't know if I really have a name
Wrong
real silo
Epicenter of Entropy 💯
That's not even noxus
split mortar
Nicknamed deity
real silo
Stinky
split mortar
We don’t know what noxus really is
frigid hedge
Cognomen deity
woeful patio
Primordial Dark
real silo
new wotg noxus' name is avatar of emptiness
split mortar
It’s no longer meant to be noxus
reef nova
We don’t know what noxus really is
What if Noxus is a penis-shapes dark mattee blob thing
real silo
I know
calm patio
What if Noxus is a penis-shapes dark mattee blob thing
No.
frigid hedge
The truth is
real silo
it's smth smth smth avatar of emptiness
split mortar
What if Noxus is a penis-shapes dark mattee blob thing
Then we eat the devs
frigid hedge
Noxus is actually a really big goose
reef nova
Then we eat the devs
Bet
split mortar
Pretty sure it’s just avatar of emptiness
reef nova
Do you think Xeroc is into us?
woeful patio
Nah he chill
split mortar
He did stalk us for our entire journey aswell
true hatch
Bro saw us complete Boss Rush and was like "Nah not good enough"
reef nova
Crazy
reef nova
He did stalk us for our entire journey aswell
True, true
reef nova
Bro saw us complete Boss Rush and was like "Nah not good enough"
Watch me no hit the entire thinf
split mortar
Otherwise how else would he know we defeated those bosses?
reef nova
And then he'll be like: Pz become my husbando
Anyway
Xeroc is totally in love with us
real silo
Pretty sure it’s just avatar of emptiness
yea but the concept art probably has something else before that
ND's concept art has smth like that too
split mortar
Oh
real silo
I forgot what it was though
true hatch
Man. I wonder if the Terrarian single-handed mincing through events is canon
real silo
ND's concept art has smth like that too
Twitter
split mortar
split mortar
https://x.com/IbanPlays/status/1793714078013403150?t=RTKYsk2f_0nsaKfm2kXGOQ&s=19
Oh damn, didn’t know there were like two other designs cool
real silo
the top right and bottom left ones won't be used
the bottom right one is avatar of emptiness
Bottom right not bottom left
split mortar
Oh
true hatch
https://x.com/IbanPlays/status/1793714078013403150?t=RTKYsk2f_0nsaKfm2kXGOQ&s=19
Man, as cool as these are, they feel... very out of place as it currently stands. And not in a good way, I suppose
split mortar
Man, as cool as these are, they feel... very out of place as it currently stands...
Only top left is being used
And bottom right
real silo
this isn't for xeroc
true hatch
Still feels very out of place as it is currently
true hatch
this isn't for xeroc
Oh, I know
split mortar
Nameless is very much not meant to fit with terraria
real silo
nameless is taking the "what if we made it uncanny compared to literally everything else" to its very limits
and avatar somehow pushes it further from what I've seen
split mortar
Pretty sure that implys avatar is with it the same realm as nameless or something aswell
true hatch
Nameless is very much not meant to fit with terraria
And, personally.
I do not like that as a concept. I think its bland, out of place (and not in a good way, more in a "what the fuck were they thinking" kind of way), and honestly? Overdone. And it's been done once
scenic olive
can you even kill nameless
split mortar
You pass the test
scenic olive
does he exist in separate physical realm
true hatch
can you even kill nameless
Would make Powerscalers salivate if you could lol
split mortar
Yeah
real silo
And, personally.
I do not like that as a concept. I think its bland, out of pla...
This is fair
I also share this opinion
frigid hedge
The good part about being a Tolkien nerd is that you're the polar opposite of a powerscaler
split mortar
The good part about being a Tolkien nerd is that you're the polar opposite of a ...
How so
true hatch
But that's what they wanted to do with it
Can't wait for it to release for a week and someone having already released a mod that just removes it
frigid hedge
How so
Well, as a first you have the Fall of Fingolfin
That single event is a powerscaler's nightmare
split mortar
Can't wait for it to release for a week and someone having already released a mo...
Removes what?
split mortar
Well, as a first you have the Fall of Fingolfin
That single event is a powerscal...
Oh ok
true hatch
Removes what?
Just ignore me, I think I don't know what I'm talking about at this point
frigid hedge
And in a general note, Tolkien's stuff is usually more metaphorical and symbolic. You don't have Gandalf actively using a fireball spell in every encounter
But that's off topic
true hatch
I'm trying to learn farms and it's just melting my brain entirely
split mortar
And in a general note, Tolkien's stuff is usually more metaphorical and symbolic...
Ah fair
split mortar
I'm trying to learn farms and it's just melting my brain entirely
That’s understandable
true hatch
Now I just imagine the Terrarian staring at schematics for a farm and just wondering what the fuck it means as it tries to explain the metaphysical constants of the universe to them so they don't fuck it up
cloud ibex
can you even kill nameless
no but you can make him go "damn nice work dude lmao" i think
cloud ibex
The good part about being a Tolkien nerd is that you're the polar opposite of a ...
that one stan lee clip where he says "whoever wins is whoever the writers wanted to win"
real silo
Can't wait for it to release for a week and someone having already released a mo...
Dawg who the fuck would make a mod that removes content from an addon
At that point just turn off the addon
true hatch
Dawg who the fuck would make a mod that removes content from an addon
I mean... it's not me personally. But I can definitely see someone going "I like the rest of the content in this addon but not this particular thing" tbf
cloud ibex
i mean there are addons whose sole purpose is removing the master/ftw lock in infernum
not quite the same scale but
real silo
afaik the current noxus will still exist in community remix
so there's zero reason to remove anything
true hatch
I should install the mod that literally only adds back Yharim Stimulants. That's all it does.
Can't believe they decanonised Yharim being a steroid abuser smh
cloud ibex
another actor's life ruined by drugs and alcohol
calm patio
Yharim stimulants wouldve good if it wasnt a ton of buffs in one
split mortar
i mean there are addons whose sole purpose is removing the master/ftw lock in in...
That basically just adds content
untold oracle
Is silva just gonna regrow or smth given time
Or is she sentenced to vegetable forever
cloud ibex
probably
split mortar
Prob going to regrow back
hoary berry
uelibloom is likely to get replaced by a profaned material, right?
untold oracle
uelibloom is likely to get replaced by a profaned material, right?
Yeah iirc
split mortar
Yeah
grim harness
The lyrics for supreme calamitas' theme are canon, right?
mighty zenith
sbc just kinda can't be very canon
it talks about the terrarian, which is inherently subjective
untold oracle
I am bothered by the part ”…all before they start to kill again…”
Are you tryna imply respawning is canon suddenly?
pliant ruin
sbc can be interpreted as canon in a way but it isn't really designed around current lore so it's not really
intended to be
split mortar
How can the part where it says calam was sent by her master fit into the lore in any interpretation?
pliant ruin
i mean i havent listened to the lyrics so idk but from what ur telling me could just be Her master as in Yharim
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mighty zenith
i mean it cant make sense in current lore
she's already left yharim and is fighting you because you remind her of yharim
sleek halo
Yeah
true hatch
Doesn't she expect you to kill her at the end of the fight?
pliant ruin
she's already left yharim and is fighting you because you remind her of yharim
idk what the lyrics even are 😭
i honestly was just
sleek halo
Doesn't she expect you to kill her at the end of the fight?
she kinda just stops
pliant ruin
reiterating what i heard from other ppl
this may be considered a war crime by some
but
erm
sleek halo
she could keep fighting
sleek halo
and likely would have
pliant ruin
sleek halo
if you tried to kill her
stark basalt
sleek halo
if you tried to kill her
lol I kinda imagine you try to hit her
pliant ruin
Yeah i don't think
sleek halo
and just get fucking incinerated lol
pliant ruin
Calamitas was going full suicidal mode yet
I think the fight just ended because
well
she got back on her senses and realized "wait no i'm being stupid again"
sleek halo
yeah
She definitely wasn’t reveling the battle that time….
She does seem to have semi better control
of her psyche
when using her magic
considering she calmed down
Which would kinda make sense
I doubt she stopped practicing
true hatch
I do really think she was just... done. Had nothing left
sleek halo
I mean
It’s the same person who incinerated half a sea
I’m sure they can fight for an absurdly long time
sleek halo
It’s the same person who incinerated half a sea
and destroyed a kingdom
Also destroyed an entire city as a child fighting brimmy
true hatch
Yeah but the Terrarian is also kinda cracked at that point.
They're not exactly a slouch when it comes to putting out hurt either
pliant ruin
I think the fight couldve gone for a little longer
sleek halo
(Well I mean you never really hurt her)
pliant ruin
But i don't think cal would like
sleek halo
She kinda just takes down the shield
pliant ruin
incinerate you instantly
at the same time
i also don't think cal was in a weak state at the end of the fight, 'cept maybe mentally
sleek halo
Yeah
true hatch
She kinda just takes down the shield
The question is did she take it down, or did she lose it. Is that ever elaborated on?
deft vessel
But i think you would have won if it had cept going
sleek halo
mayb
sleek halo
The question is did she take it down, or did she lose it. Is that ever elaborate...
I think she just takes it down
but i could be wrong
pliant ruin
But i think you would have won if it had cept going
yeah probably
sleek halo
we’ll get better knowledge
pliant ruin
by the point you beat yharim then yeah absolutely
sleek halo
we’ll get better knowledge
with dialogue reqork
true hatch
Yeah
sleek halo
Ngl imo
true hatch
People will finally stop seeing Calamitas as a psychopath (hopefully)
deft vessel
If she gets the jump on him imo
sleek halo
ehhh
He kinda has a soft spot for her
And she definitely does not have one for him
not even remotely
deft vessel
I guess in that sense
sleek halo
(Also like he’s gotta get close lol)
sleek halo
If she and Yharim fought
Tho the interaction before that would be interesting
Probably a one sided conversation LOL
deft vessel
It would be cool if there was a secret boss with both of the Yhars
true hatch
Man it really sucks that people just... drastically misinterpret Cala's character. like... she's not really a violent person, but people seem to assume that she is
true hatch
I mean current Cala though
sleek halo
Yeah
In her mind she just saw another person following Yharim’s path
Which ended
poorly last time for everyone
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Unless you were Providence. In which case it went great (until we showed up)
sleek halo
Yeah
true hatch
I wonder if we'll ever get an elaboration on why Providence wants to kill everything
cloud ibex
probably
sleek halo
Yeah she’s kinda important
true hatch
Because it's not clear if she actually is super nihilistic and truly believes that the world would be a better place if everyone was dead
Or if she just wants to kill everyone and that's a guise to get more power through followers
sleek halo
Yharim compares you beating her to the likes of Braelor so
cloud ibex
i doubt they'll leave it at essentially "she went to gaming subreddits for five minutes"
sleek halo
or well feats of braelor so
true hatch
or well feats of braelor so
What feats does Braelor actually have though
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Statis was also there (IDK how much he actually did though)