Yk the sweet thing is
#lore-discussion
pliant ruin
Nothing in the lore says that it couldn't have been a threat
if anything
i think atp
pliant ruin
cal probably would already be wanting to leave yhar and starting to realize he's a bad guy
split mortar
I imagine permafrost prob helped her form it
sleek halo
I imagine permafrost prob helped her form it
One last lesson 
pliant ruin
so she'd definitely not just
seal her father figure just coz yharim told her to, even if its better than killing
pliant ruin
and causes them burst into flames
ALSO TRUE
this would be
genuinely so sad and so wholesome at the same time
sleek halo
(Tho Cryogen is probably an overloaded sealing spell)
pliant ruin
so she'd definitely not just
seal her father figure just coz yharim told her to...
that's sort of like your boss from work telling you to kill ur mom and then you arrive on work and you're like "wow i don't wanna kill my mom :( i'll just beat her up until she's in a coma"
sleek halo
just didn’t explode
split mortar
Imagine if we don’t kill cryogen it eventually just combusts open at some point in the future
sleek halo
into flames
untold oracle
Why is cryogen hostile then? Is it just to keep people from opening it
pliant ruin
i imagine yeah
sleek halo
Probably
split mortar
Probably
sleek halo
Honestly Imo
split mortar
Pretty sure she didn’t have the experience
sleek halo
But the mental image of him was probably way stronger than he was
split mortar
Back then
sleek halo
But the mental image of him was probably way stronger than he was
Like the idea of fighting him just seeming impossible
split mortar
She had trained and has much higher mastery then when she sealed perma, back then yharim would prob win due to skill difference
sleek halo
he probably would’ve engrained that into her when she was young
to make sure she isn’t turned against him
pliant ruin
cal gets told by yharim to kill permafrost > she declines > likely starts being threatened in some capacity to do so > runs away from the yharmy > meets up with permafrost, seeks comfort in him, tries asking him "dad help wtf do i do i'm scared" > either they go straight into perma telling cal his plan to seal him or
permafrost basically tells cal that he's ok wtih being killed if it's for her safety, and that he only wants her to do the right thing
cal still declines, and given cal is known for having Episodes and Bad Emotional Control, they end up fighting as cal tries to repeatedly tell perma I'm not Gonna Fucking Kill You, they then ultimately come to the Sealing Conclusion and it's really sad and etc
sleek halo
real
sleek halo
to make sure she isn’t turned against him
(Especially cause Imo during the entire time she was under Yharim, I feel like she’d have been stronger)
pliant ruin
I agree that cal probably thinks yharim is way stronger than he is
untold oracle
permafrost basically tells cal that he's ok wtih being killed if it's for her sa...
That’s so sad and wholesome
sleek halo
(at least in terms of raw power)
split mortar
Doesn’t scal run from the yharmy shortly after sealing perma not before it
pliant ruin
Because ingame
her dialogue hypes him up to be like
basically unbeatable
when in reality
atm he's only a little stronger than the terrarian
the combined factors of
sleek halo
Also Draedon compared her to Yharim
pliant ruin
ptsd + having met yharim when she was like 10 and her brain was stilll Developing
probalby makes her
mental image of yharim
sleek halo
in terms of power
pliant ruin
much stronger
sleek halo
Yeah
split mortar
Plus auric rejection prob made the image of him not being touchable much more dramatic
split mortar
Where one guy can wear armour that just fucking throws you for touching him slightly on accident
Yeah I’d assume that guy is prob stronger then he is
sleek halo
Honestly
untold oracle
Do yall think there have been accidents of clueless people touching Yharim and fucking exploding
split mortar
Do yall think there have been accidents of clueless people touching Yharim and f...
Yeah
sleek halo
I could imagine the mental image she has of him breaking slightly
being some unkillable being
(There’s no way Braelor vs Yharim wasn’t a massive thing)
split mortar
I could imagine the mental image she has of him breaking slightly
And then he gets exo tech making him even stronger
Probably building it back up
A bit
sleek halo
She wouldn’t know that realistically
untold oracle
And then he gets exo tech making him even stronger
Would people know abt that tho?
pliant ruin
he dosen't want them to know about the post-divorce meeting
untold oracle
What exotechnology does Yharim have?
pliant ruin
his armor
sleek halo
improvements to his armor
untold oracle
Does he have some laser cannons or smth
sleek halo
Probably not
split mortar
What exotechnology does Yharim have?
His armour has some exo tech inside
Not much cause it was added under his armour
pliant ruin
dude
untold oracle
His armour has some exo tech inside
Right
pliant ruin
i love the idea of braelor being like
sleek halo
I have an idea of Yharim punching Braelor and the whole Auric rejection stuff
and Braelor barely budges
pliant ruin
this 1 guy that was sort of well known due to being a god's champion and all but overnight he turns known like worldwide because he was the first person in god knows how long to almost beat yharim
like
in old lore
statis and braelor were barely relevant
and i love the idea of them being
The Dudes that Almost Killed Yharim and became Legends for it Overnight
sleek halo
this 1 guy that was sort of well known due to being a god's champion and all but...
Or at least match Yharim
sleek halo
(Imo if the fight was just Braelor and Yharim, Braelor would’ve lost)
split mortar
Yeah same
pliant ruin
But with a edge for Yhar
sleek halo
Skill diff and also Auric rjefctipn
pliant ruin
meanwhile
thorny marlin
(Imo if the fight was just Braelor and Yharim, Braelor would’ve lost)
that's why statis is here
stark basalt
sleek halo
I think Braelor vs Yharim would still be a tough fight
They’re essentially dead even
pliant ruin
Braelor and Statis vs Yharim...... yknow
untold oracle
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
😔
split mortar
Kana be spamming that gif after not sending it as much for a bit
sleek halo
Blessing of a god Vs the attunement of a dragon
split mortar
Yeah, though yharims armour is probably better then braelors
sleek halo
(I’m assuming Braelor was blessed by Silva like Jared)
split mortar
Yeah he prob was
split mortar
He was leader of onyx kinsman I think
sleek halo
Braelor and Statis vs Yharim...... yknow
Yharim literally just had a better third party
split mortar
Statis isn’t as strong as braelor but he helped push it into their favour
sleek halo
Like Statis vs DoG is probably not nearly as close….
split mortar
Yeah
sleek halo
Statis isn’t as strong as braelor but he helped push it into their favour
Yeah
Statis likely would’ve landed the final blow
pliant ruin
He was leader of onyx kinsman I think
Idk if leader
but he was the champion of the slime god
thorny marlin
yharim got helped by devourer of gods
sleek halo
I kinda imagine
split mortar
He played support to get braelor out of problematic situations I would guess
sleek halo
Statis saw DoG barreling towards Braelor
And hesitated
and that’s what confirmed it for DoG to intervene
split mortar
but he was the champion of the slime god
Didn’t slime god like completely ignore onyx kinsman though
pliant ruin
Idk if that's ever stated anywhere
split mortar
Or am I losing my last braincell
untold oracle
Btw are slimes some very ancient creatures or are they spawned by slime god, making them a rather new species?
pliant ruin
Nah
split mortar
I think slime god lore item
pliant ruin
they're just wild creatures
sleek halo
Idk if that's ever stated anywhere
Yharim says something like that lol
But he’s Yharim
pliant ruin
Oh yeah
yharim does say like
slime god dosen't CARE about the last kinsmen...
but
sleek halo
so who cares what opinion he has
split mortar
It the yhar guy himself
pliant ruin
they're just wild creatures
but continuing that
split mortar
I’d say it’s best to wait till we get statis as a npc before we conclude wether sg did ignore them
thorny marlin
Btw are slimes some very ancient creatures or are they spawned by slime god, mak...
nah slimes just exist
pliant ruin
they aren't spawned from slime god, they're just wild "animals", slime god is just a god that takes the shape of a slime and has control over slime rather than being like, an literal religious figure to slimes or the source of them
pliant ruin
(Slime are probably some sort of giant amoeba or a fungi modl or smth so not really animals but they fill a niche that is comparable to that of a wild animal so)
sleek halo
the yharim gaslighting is so real
split mortar
Gods are ignorant and inherently evil or smth
No, they’re just other people but with strong powers
thorny marlin
permafrost and scal left yharim
sleek halo
I still have my headcanon of the God of Sacrifices being a genuinely good person
thorny marlin
and next
sleek halo
Especially cause you don’t only need to sacrifice lives
thorny marlin
yharim kicked out draedon 😭
pliant ruin
it'd be a subversion of expectations and it could actually make sense and be a great narrative if done well
sleek halo
you can sacrifice other things
pliant ruin
sacrifice isn't necessarily bad
if anything it can be a Good Thing depending on context
sleek halo
Yeah
split mortar
I still have my headcanon of the God of Sacrifices being a genuinely good person
If sacrificing anything can contribute to them getting worship and power then sacrificing life might not be as common as some people may think
sleek halo
I also think
scenic olive
Golden rod is mine
pliant ruin
and if they went to the route of GoS being a good guy
split mortar
Like you make a really good loaf of bread and sacrifice to the god of sacrifice or something
pliant ruin
it would be
sleek halo
That he would get a giant boost in power
pliant ruin
tragic
sleek halo
from a sacrifice of life
sleek halo
And that’s why Ravager is so absurdly strong
in lore
Like he’s going to be retiered above providence
pliant ruin
good guy. good king. everyone loved him. he then has to suffer for eternity as a unjust punishment by a self-righteous maniac
split mortar
Sacrificing the elderly and sick when it’s known they will suffer and die is prob a thing for god of sacrifice though
pliant ruin
good guy. good king. everyone loved him. he then has to suffer for eternity as a...
this is minos prime. right. well.
sleek halo
I’d imagine GoS would be around Providence in strength
pliant ruin
think about it.
sleek halo
if not slightly below
sleek halo
Yeah
pliant ruin
yep
pliant ruin
funnily enough
sleek halo
kill themselves
pliant ruin
even thoguh calamity has a sort of
scenic olive
Are we questioning the morality of God of Sacrifice
pliant ruin
mature tone
pliant ruin
Are we questioning the morality of God of Sacrifice
not rly
sleek halo
headcanonning the shit out of it rn
pliant ruin
mature tone
there aren't many characters currently in-game that could be seen as having tragic stories
sleek halo
is what we’re doing
split mortar
Are we questioning the morality of God of Sacrifice
Not questioning, just saying we headcanon it as good or not evil
sleek halo
there aren't many characters currently in-game that could be seen as having trag...
true
pliant ruin
i should specify
cuz calamitas and statis and permafrost all have tragic stories in their own right
but most of the
things you fight
tend to be just kind of evil
or like
pliant ruin
hungry predators
scenic olive
Huh
sleek halo
he had an incredibly sad story lol
scenic olive
that makes sense
sleek halo
I kinda imagine
pliant ruin
I mean more like
sleek halo
Yharon kinda lost his mind
during the centuries of time he was the only auric dragon
and being hunted
and killed
pliant ruin
A situation where the person you're fighting truly like
Did NOT deserve to be killed but there's no other choice
pliant ruin
Like yharon is tragic in his own right
sleek halo
and ends up starting the slaughter of auric dragons
pliant ruin
but at the point we fight him in
pliant ruin
he's kind of a dick
like yeah, i understand why he's a dick, but that dosen't change the fact he's a dick
which is why i think
sleek halo
also people rend you of essentially the reason you exist
pliant ruin
even though hes literally yharims bff
sleek halo
(rebirthing dragons)
pliant ruin
i don't think he's as bad as yharim
real silo
thats yharim
I thought yharim doesn't know that ravager is GoS' corpse
pliant ruin
but i still think he's kind of Bad
sleek halo
I thought yharim doesn't know that ravager is GoS' corpse
He probably does lol
He hits you with
pliant ruin
I thought yharim doesn't know that ravager is GoS' corpse
he dosen't i don't think but the point here is that
sleek halo
“Be careful with what you hear” or smthing like that
real silo
the lore item didn't mention it so I figured he's that clueless
sleek halo
at the end
untold oracle
A situation where the person you're fighting truly like
Did NOT deserve to be ki...
Aquaric scourge
sleek halo
i don't think he's *as bad* as yharim
I mean Yharim’s rage was semi justified
scenic olive
So we put the blame at yharim
sleek halo
He was literally thrown in lava
scenic olive
sleek halo
and then told about how terrible gods are
scenic olive
If only those necromancer didnt try to revive him
sleek halo
after having very much proof about how terrible they are
real silo
idk it just doesn't seem right that yharim killed the dude and then didn't realize that that's his corpse walking around
sleek halo
when he was thrown into lava
pliant ruin
Justified isn't a good word to put it i don't think
sleek halo
idk it just doesn't seem right that yharim killed the dude and then didn't reali...
He mangled the FUCK out of him
pliant ruin
But it's understandable
sleek halo
Yeah
pliant ruin
Even then i feel like
sleek halo
He mangled the FUCK out of him
also there’s clearly been a fusing of
bodies
of the people who sacrificed themselves
Considering the dozen human skulls
thorny marlin
idk it just doesn't seem right that yharim killed the dude and then didn't reali...
yeah because yharim thinks all gods are evil...
real silo
so yharim is clueless as fuck
sleek halo
thorny marlin
so yharim is clueless as fuck
yharim would hire child soldiers
pliant ruin
Deciding to kill Every God and Their Followers and Commiting War Crimes for It after being Almost Killed By Gods This One Time is definitely a reaction
thorny marlin
yeah he's clueless
real silo
not what I'm talking about
sleek halo
Even then i feel like
I feel like he had good intentions at the start
real silo
stinky
sleek halo
and had a smaller scope
sleek halo
But overtime he kinda got overzealous
pliant ruin
I do think
that it might've had a smaller scope
but not because
Yharim only wanted to kill the stinky ones
sleek halo
I mean it probably was first
split mortar
He always wanted to kill bad gods
sleek halo
Rage at the people
pliant ruin
but because he didn't think he'd have the manpower or skill to kill the Others
sleek halo
Who threw him in
but when Yharon told him
what happened
it probably immediately was like
“Oh so they’re all bad”
pliant ruin
Yeah that's probalby exactly what happened
untold oracle
Deciding to kill Every God and Their Followers and Commiting War Crimes for It a...
Yharim is just a little… impulsive at times 
pliant ruin
But regardless of why it happened i still think it's
as i said
kind of
a reaction
like with yharon
sleek halo
And the lava incident reinforced the fuck out of that
thorny marlin
Deciding to kill Every God and Their Followers and Commiting War Crimes for It a...
war crimes!!!!
scenic olive
“Oh so they’re *all* bad”
would yharim have ptsd if you were to throw him into lava again
pliant ruin
why he got to this point
sleek halo
he's absolutely in the wrong
Yeah
split mortar
With yharon it’s a LOT more understandable reaction
pliant ruin
but yharim is like
even knowing what he went through
i'm sitting here like
brah really
sleek halo
The issue is two crazy fucks
thorny marlin
and then when he couldn't beat xeroc he's trying to gaslight us into killing xeroc
sleek halo
are working together
split mortar
Doesn’t mean it’s morally good for yharim, but it’s understandable
split mortar
are working together
And they both made eachother hate their enemies more
split mortar
Doesn’t mean it’s morally good for yharim, but it’s understandable
Meant to say yharon oops
pliant ruin
like yharim is one i can understand his reasoning but his reasoning is kind of fucking insane
yharon is one where i can understand his reasoning and even if hes fucked up i think it's kind of reasonable he became fucked up
split mortar
on your mental
Yeah it def does
sleek halo
Like everyday he probably just ingrained himself more and more into his ideals
and his motives
pliant ruin
yeah he definitely did
sleek halo
because if he didn’t he’d probably break
pliant ruin
ive seen put it as
sleek halo
mentally
pliant ruin
by the point you fight him
the crusade is him
he is the crusade
that's the entire point of his existence
specially given
hes literally ok w dying
sleek halo
because if he didn’t he’d probably break
He’d have to come to terms with
what he’s done
pliant ruin
if it means the crusade continues through you
sleek halo
Really come to terms
Like I feel like he’s probably gaslighted himself so much he could never turn back
thorny marlin
if it means the crusade continues through you
😳
split mortar
Granted yharim is an entire army and a dozen in his own right so the crusade could still kill lots of gods
sleek halo
I’m not gonna lie
untold oracle
Would be funny to just refuse to kill Yharim and become his successor, then just leave him to die of old age
scenic olive
He’d have to come to terms with
Calamity what ifs
- yharim went insane because he couldnt finish the crusade
sleek halo
I wonder if he did realize what he was doing
scenic olive
sleek halo
would it break his attunement
scenic olive
pretty sure he know what hes doing
sleek halo
pretty sure he know what hes doing
ok but realized more so
scenic olive
he just doesnt care
sleek halo
“oh this is particularly bad”
split mortar
would it break his attunement
Probably would only if him and yharon were to argue or something over it
If attunement can break like that
deft vessel
He just belives it is for the greater good
split mortar
That the ends justify the means
thorny marlin
Would be funny to just refuse to kill Yharim and become his successor, then just...
pretty cool ngl
thorny marlin
Like I feel like he’s probably gaslighted himself so much he could never turn ba...
he's going to become really mentally broken if his gaslighting truth shatters then
untold oracle
If he were to fully realize he would have a really long denial phase
sleek halo
hes literally ok w dying
Yeah
Like he’s kinda so far gone even Yharon doesn’t understand what’s happening lol
thorny marlin
Like he’s kinda so far gone even Yharon doesn’t understand what’s happening lol
his mental state is orobably going be in shambles if we don't kill him
sleek halo
It’s been in shambles
sleek halo
But regardless he needs to die, not because he wants to
But like
Not much can happen
when he exists lol
The world is fucked up
And any remaining gods are in hiding
or in a vegetative state
or being Xeroc
thorny marlin
or in a vegetative state
vegetative state? damn
sleek halo
(Silva)
thorny marlin
The world is fucked up
are you saying it's past the point of NO return?
sleek halo
no
But it really cannot with Yharim
being around
the two people who could kill him and wanted two
sleek halo
are separated and one is in the distortion
Scal is now seemingly no longer willing to go after him
thorny marlin
are separated and one is in the distortion
and yharim is kinda in the dragon aerie
sleek halo
tho old dialogue so
thorny marlin
yharim is gonna die from old age if we don't kill him first 😭
sleek halo
cannot find it
yeah
But Yharim is kinda just
a nuisance to the world at this point
Like he has no armies
no control
but his existence kinda fucks everything
currently
thorny marlin
but his existence kinda fucks everything
how when he is hiding
split mortar
Granted his prescience also prob helps keep gods like providence from another world war
split mortar
how when he is hiding
Cause he can just exit any time
sleek halo
how when he is hiding
I mean
Would you wanna do anything really publicly when you’re opposing Yharim
and he’s still alive?
pliant ruin
^
untold oracle
He wouldn’t realistically come for you but still
sleek halo
He wouldn’t realistically come for you but still
ok but a century worth of war is
a good way to traumatize everyone
pliant ruin
like at literally any point he could come out of hiding and say fuck you and kill you
and that too
mental scars
sleek halo
I guarantee even after Yharim dies
It’ll take like a decade
for people to really believe it
and for shit to get started
pliant ruin
after yharim dies people will start being able to recover lol
one thing
i rly like abt calamity story progression
split mortar
for people to really believe it
He did come back from a near death experience with braelor so yeah fair
sleek halo
Yeah imagine the last thing you hear about the dude is
split mortar
Who knows he may come back with miracle tech for all they know from draedon
sleek halo
“Oh yeah Braelor, Silva’s champion, lost lol”
pliant ruin
is how its basically the terrarian cleaning the mess left behind by the crusade to open up a path for the world to heal
sleek halo
Like
untold oracle
He did come back from a near death experience with braelor so yeah fair
Wasn’t braelor + statis vs yharim relatively recent?
sleek halo
I guarantee you would immediately be like “well shit, there goes our best bet”
pliant ruin
things are kind of getting better
or well
starting to get better
but
they're still
split mortar
Wasn’t braelor + statis vs yharim relatively recent?
Exactly, so it would be more recent in people’s minds
pliant ruin
kind of shitty, and only very slowly getting better
with the terrarian
cleaning the mess
that yharim n everything inbeetween left
split mortar
Granted killing wof makes shit worse aswell
pliant ruin
things can actually Get Better For Real
sleek halo
Granted killing wof makes shit worse aswell
well it led to the mechs being defeated
thorny marlin
Wasn’t braelor + statis vs yharim relatively recent?
yharim went into the dragon aerie like a year before you started your journey
pliant ruin
(specially with how utterly nonsensical its summoning is)
it just
attacked the terrarian
and they had no choice
but to kil it
pliant ruin
yeahhhh
pliant ruin
traces of both the evil biome essences and the slime god essences on you
and it just goes oogaa booga time to eat mode
sleek halo
yeah
split mortar
well it led to the mechs being defeated
Yes, but they aren’t as bad as a multiple continent wide plagues on the land and people that only grow
untold oracle
(specially with how utterly nonsensical its summoning is)
The guide does not fit in
sleek halo
Yea
sleek halo
Also ml being dealt with is ncie
pliant ruin
and it also makes it so the terrarian dosen't just seemingly summon wof and make the world Worse for no reason
thorny marlin
it summons wof
they did NOT change wall of flesh summoning from vanilla
untold oracle
Yes, but they aren’t as bad as a multiple continent wide plagues on the land and...
Me with begone evil
pliant ruin
they did NOT change wall of flesh summoning from vanilla
yeah they didn't
because
well
thats a gameplay thing
split mortar
Also ml being dealt with is ncie
Yeah true that’s great, but we did risk the entire world since we didnt know if moonlord was at full power unless headcanoned
pliant ruin
headcanon until i make it canon but only for the calamity mod fangame and not calamity mod itself becaues i'm a developer for the fangame but not for calamity mod
sleek halo
true
pliant ruin
tho this one i can't do that with since no terraria content means no wall of flesh
rest in pee
thorny marlin
“Oh yeah Braelor, Silva’s champion, lost lol”
what about statis??? 😭
untold oracle
it’s just a headcanon thing for us
I mean it makes sense, it has a mouth that you feed god essence to
thorny marlin
nobody cares about slime god
split mortar
Braelor losing
Braelor AND statis would be even more impactful
sleek halo
Braelor AND statis would be even more impactful
True but then DoG would have to be brought up
split mortar
nobody cares about slime god
The onyx kinsman disagre
sleek halo
Idk
I mean people had to have heard about the fight
but what they heard can easily be skewed
to Yharim’s favor
split mortar
Yeah true
Plus if yharim hid his exo tech stuff it would seem he got stronger after the fight
thorny marlin
imagine being traumatized from the war and being told that most peopl's best bet for the world to start healing again lost
hot valve
To be fair, if statis and Braelor were sent to fight by Silva or something, both lose, and yharim immediately goes into hiding…who would know about this fight? And share it?
It would have to just be Statis wouldn’t it?
split mortar
To be fair, if statis and Braelor were sent to fight by Silva or something, both...
I doubt the fight would be a quiet or hidden fight
untold oracle
imagine being traumatized from the war and being told that most peopl's best bet...
Time will be your new companion then
hot valve
I feel like it could have happened in a secluded area, but loud it definitely would be
untold oracle
I doubt the fight would be a quiet or hidden fight
How do you make a fight of 3 people that visible tho
Let’s say they just started fighting on some field or smth
Who’s witnessing it
real silo
explosions
split mortar
The damage to the terrain
It would prob sound like hundreds of bombs going off during the fight or something
untold oracle
The damage to the terrain
What magnitude of power are we talking about in that fight?
real silo
I imagine silva's other followers would be really concerned when the guy they sent didn't come home
thorny marlin
What magnitude of power are we talking about in that fight?
yharim
split mortar
What magnitude of power are we talking about in that fight?
Yharim is like city+ level
untold oracle
What makes the explosions
thorny marlin
yharim
split mortar
According to omni
real silo
braelor probably has some fucked up attacks too
split mortar
Yeah
thorny marlin
I imagine silva's other followers would be really concerned when the guy they se...
yes
split mortar
And statis being able to help shows he is within the range of them aswell
untold oracle
Would they have a lot of projectiles?
split mortar
Braelor vs exo mechs...
Exos easily, braelor is prob more equal to dog or yharon
untold oracle
Also are the explosions just auric rejections only
thorny marlin
Also are the explosions just auric rejections only
nuh uh
real silo
Yharim's punches are just that strong
thorny marlin
i'm assuming braelor and statis were conetted too their gods
split mortar
Pretty sure it’s been dev stated yharim could like create a 80ft wide crater with one punch or something like that
thorny marlin
i'm assuming braelor and statis were conetted too their gods
which is how yharim could wear auric armor without being a god
split mortar
They would also probably be surpassing speed of sound when punched thanks to rejection and punch knock back
thorny marlin
I don't think that braelor or statis would be suffering from rejection
like how they gonna fight yharim if they were
split mortar
With weapons
split mortar
Weapons aren’t effected
untold oracle
Yharim's punches are just that strong
I’d imagine Yharim having at least a sword
split mortar
Braelor has a big ass axe
split mortar
Only yharon and yharim can wear normal auric
Everyone else needs mock attunement auric
thorny marlin
😭
untold oracle
Offbrand auric armor
split mortar
Offbrand auric armor
That’s what we wear basically
untold oracle
Neutralized with Yharon soul fragments I assume
thorny marlin
Offbrand auric armor
auric armor from temu
split mortar
I imagine xeroc still can out of sheer power to just ignore it for extended periods of time
thorny marlin
Pretty sure it’s been dev stated yharim could like create a 80ft wide crater wit...
leaked yharim fight musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92E0X59wzeg
real silo
I mean he doesn't even need the auric
untold oracle
Also doesn’t Yharim have wings too? Wings in the same sense the terrarian has
real silo
No clue
split mortar
Neutralized with Yharon soul fragments I assume
Yeah, the soul fragments make the auric metal think it’s always in contact with a auric being so the don’t reject
thorny marlin
Also doesn’t Yharim have wings too? Wings in the same sense the terrarian has
he doesn't have wings
untold oracle
He does mention some grand wings in the first lore item you get
thorny marlin
I mean he doesn't even need the auric
he does he's 130 and burnt from being in lava 😭
split mortar
He swims through the air instead
real silo
That mf can jump
real silo
he does he's 130 and burnt from being in lava 😭
(talking about xeroc)
thorny marlin
He does mention some grand wings in the first lore item you get
i'm pretty sure he wasn't being literally
split mortar
I wouldn’t be surprised though if he did
thorny marlin
if we touch yharim we gonna die 😭
split mortar
Prob something like seraph or drew wings
deft vessel
It would be weird for him to just levitate
split mortar
if we touch yharim we gonna die 😭
He should be able to grapple us
real silo
Whiplash
thorny marlin
He should be able to grapple us
insta kill attacks in my terraria???
real silo
Yharim uses jackhammer ultrakill
untold oracle
Prob something like seraph or drew wings
I assume drew wings yeah
real silo
bonks you to the surface and back to the aerie
thorny marlin
Yharim uses jackhammer ultrakill
how we supposed to survive yharim
real silo
ram
split mortar
Like 8-9 foot tall
real silo
if we ram into him we gonna die from auriv rejection tho
We got the aurician aegis
untold oracle
He should be able to grapple us
He should have a chain attack or smth
thorny marlin
Like 8-9 foot tall
8-9 feet tall is NOT natural
real silo
Wearing auric armor neutralizes auric rejection anyways
You can stand on auric ore while wearing it
untold oracle
Like 8-9 foot tall
8 foot 1 iirc
split mortar
8-9 feet tall is NOT natural
Pretty sure in recorded history one person has been 8 foot 11 something inches
Irl
untold oracle
Is Yharim really gonna just punch you
split mortar
Yeah he melee
untold oracle
I bet he has a sword
split mortar
That aswell
sleek halo
He does mention some grand wings in the first lore item you get
Well..
that wws like…
A metaphor…
rotund shore
We can also say that terrarians might not have the same biology as humans, and can just, be taller then normal
Even if most aren’t
sleek halo
He was chosen to be God King for a reason
probably already from a high status family
was more than likely trained
rotund shore
Yharim ate his veggies every day to grow big and strong
sleek halo
so true
rotund shore
untold oracle
He was chosen to be God King for a reason
God emperor of humanity….
sleek halo
was more than likely trained
this is just my idea tho
Idk if there’s an actual reason he was chosne lol
untold oracle
A metaphor…
It would still be cool
split mortar
We can also say that terrarians might not have the same biology as humans, and c...
Yharim is it taller then humans can be
untold oracle
And how else would you explain him just flying
rotund shore
Well yeah I guess humans can be taller then yharim
split mortar
Auric vortex boosters type thing ?
rotund shore
But it’s happened so very rarely
thorny marlin
uh
real silo
this is true
thorny marlin
yharon is he bf
real silo
he's gonna commission draedon for a mini yharon mount
split mortar
I think they’re best friends canonically
sleek halo
I think they’re best friends canonically
I feel like at this point they’re like
essentially family lol
rotund shore
They’re roommates
real silo
best bros
rotund shore
But yeah while I see some people Headcanon them as bfs I just see them as besties
thorny marlin
they're friends with benefits
untold oracle
He had Yharon
But Yharon is dead (for now)
sleek halo
they're friends with benefits
The benefit being Auric
split mortar
he's gonna commission draedon for a mini yharon mount
Draedon getting 500 commissions of random dragon stuff in return for experiementing yharim
deft vessel
My heand Canon for the technology discrepency is that all technology is just really expensive so most people dont have any.
sleek halo
My heand Canon for the technology discrepency is that all technology is just rea...
I mean also Draedon
Is just
way further ahead
rotund shore
It’s mostly that all the hyper advanced tech is made by draedon
sleek halo
everyone else
untold oracle
Could draedon start a business
rotund shore
And he doesn’t give that out to many people
deft vessel
It’s draedon
sleek halo
he's reclusive
He had staff lol
rotund shore
Only like, yharims army, DoG, and the terrarian get their hands on it
rotund shore
Only like, yharims army, DoG, and the terrarian get their hands on it
Atleast to any high degree
thorny marlin
ok so like
split mortar
He had staff lol
Yeah had, don’t think so anymore when he split form the yharmy
thorny marlin
how bad is yharim's mental state
sleek halo
just probably didn’t need them after a certain piint
real silo
Especially irl
you need multiple people working for years or even a decade to get one thing off the ground
split mortar
how bad is yharim's mental state
Still wants to genocide
And doesn’t mind death
And has no friends
Or family
So prob not great
untold oracle
And has no friends
He has Yharon though (before you kill him)
split mortar
In exo mech lore it is said he is at the brink of apotheosis doesn’t it
rotund shore
The only semi recent time I imagine draedon has hired humans is for investigating the astral infection
untold oracle
In exo mech lore it is said he is at the brink of apotheosis doesn’t it
Yeah
sleek halo
The only semi recent time I imagine draedon has hired humans is for investigatin...
Yeah
and that went
poorly
split mortar
He has Yharon though (before you kill him)
True
sleek halo
lol
untold oracle
He could apparently wipe out the world according to Yharim, but he’s likely exaggerating like always
sleek halo
I mean
rotund shore
And going in the astral is like the one thing draedon can’t do himself ngl
sleek halo
he could life wipe
relatively easily
he’s made a virus that infects and takes over living things
split mortar
He could apparently wipe out the world according to Yharim, but he’s likely exag...
He could make the exo mechs much quicker now then the first time, so he prob can with not much trouble unless scal or noxus or xeroc or yharim intervene
sleek halo
He has literal infinite energy
rotund shore
Between the plague and exo mechs, he has two rather powerful way to destroy the world
untold oracle
He even mines the moon
sleek halo
Remaking the exomechs would be mcuh easier
rotund shore
He could make nukes if he wanted to, really
sleek halo
The dude called
split mortar
He even mines the moon
That’s a future plan now moonlord is gone
rotund shore
And as has been discussed, Xeroc APPARENTLY dirs to a nuke
split mortar
Yeah
rotund shore
With a few revisions I could believe that the exo mechs can beat yharim ngl
sleek halo
Draedon is probably the most dangerous thing currently
split mortar
Like draedon is basically a force of nature at this point
untold oracle
Draedon is probably the most dangerous thing currently
Thankfully he’s chilling
sleek halo
Like draedon is basically a force of nature at this point
science*
split mortar
Draedon is probably the most dangerous thing currently
Not currently, noxus and xeroc
thorny marlin
With a few revisions I could believe that the exo mechs can beat yharim ngl
that's why yharim is camping the dragon serie 🙏
sleek halo
Not currently, noxus and xeroc
He absolutely has potential to surpass them both
split mortar
He absolutely has potential to surpass them both
Yeah, potential but that isn’t currently
deft vessel
The Terrarian?
rotund shore
Xeroc also isn’t a person who is posing any threat to the world, he’s kind of just, lurking
Although maybe noxus is planning world domination idk
split mortar
The Terrarian?
sleek halo
And draedon is a threat for a reason
untold oracle
rotund shore
Draedon is essentially unkillable he’s cracked
untold oracle
Xeroc also isn’t a person who is posing any threat to the world, he’s kind of ju...
He’s learning to bake the perfect pancake
sleek halo
like good fucking luck
deft vessel
Gameplay is not automatically lore so this pic is invalid
rotund shore
Gameplay is not automatically lore so this pic is invalid
Well, it’s correct, the terrarian is a character near entirely up for interpretation
sleek halo
like good fucking luck
Like he’s probably as hard to kill as Silva is
because he just makes more of him
split mortar
Like only thing that is canon is we suck at naming things and scal thinks we’re good enough to not kill
deft vessel
Well, it’s correct, the terrarian is a character near entirely up for interpreta...
Gameplay wise you will become the strongest Theo
untold oracle
Like he’s probably as hard to kill as Silva is
He prob has a boatload of clones asw
sleek halo
Like only thing that is canon is we suck at naming things and scal thinks we’re ...
old dialogue for scal so
thorny marlin
Like only thing that is canon is we suck at naming things and scal thinks we’re ...
nah
rotund shore
Gameplay wise you will become the strongest Theo
Not really, we won’t get stronger then Xeroc realistically
thorny marlin
draedon thinks we suck at naming things
untold oracle
That he can just transfer himself to upon death
split mortar
old dialogue for scal so
She still stops the fight after realising we ain’t a second yharim iirc
sleek halo
But yeah I think Draedon
deft vessel
Not really, we won’t get stronger then Xeroc realistically
But presumably we will slay him in some capasity during the boss fight
sleek halo
by far is the scariest thing
Like imagine if he found out how to harvest and use Primordial Light
split mortar
draedon thinks we suck at naming things
We do, Skeletron prime and miracle matter ain’t good names
rotund shore
draedon could essentially wipe this continent off the map if he wanted to, but he has no reason to
untold oracle
Like imagine if he found out how to harvest and use Primordial Light
”Draedon why are you laying on the grass?”
”Collecting samples”
real silo
Like imagine if he found out how to harvest and use Primordial Light
draedon discovers solar panels circa 1990 AC
sleek halo
and he didn’t
deft vessel
Quite a miracle
rotund shore
I love the fact that he accepts miracle matter as the name
I mean yeah, if some other scientists makes something first, you have to deal with whatever shitty name they gave it
much to draedons chagrin
sleek halo
yeah
deft vessel
he has a template to work off
Exo mechs V2
split mortar
he has a template to work off
Debatable, it uses mock attuned auric so it may not be as easy
Plus ashes from the clone
split mortar
He doesn’t have mock attuned auric though
rotund shore
technically miracle matter recipe can't really be canon due to endtothermic energy
split mortar
Which may react different to being melted by exotic resonance
sleek halo
auric rejection
split mortar
He’d know best how to get around the attunement
Then why doesn’t he use auric? It’s better then cosmolite in every way but being bent
sleek halo
Then why doesn’t he use auric? It’s better then cosmolite in every way but being...
Because it probably doesn’t meld as well
real silo
fabricate like 10 sets of exo mechs and have them jump yharon
deft vessel
or break pieces off
Have you heard of yharons soul fragments
split mortar
Because it probably doesn’t meld as well
Dev statement has said it’s better then cosmolite in every way but physical flexibility
sleek halo
guh
sleek halo
Dev statement has said it’s better then cosmolite in every way but physical flex...
Well also the fact that it might not mix
with the other stuff he did
and added
it could genuinely make exo metal unreliable
rotund shore
draedon would also have a hell of a time building with something that essentially explodes you if you touch it
rotund shore
if thanatos didn't have that flexibility it couldn't do jack shit
sleek halo
Also the stuff that
Thanatos had
Was probably as durable as auric
the way it was made essentially made it ungodly tough
rotund shore
thanatos is essentially the most durable thing in the world
untold oracle
Doesn’t Thanatos’ armor literally grow from it
sleek halo
It was grown armor yes
rotund shore
thanatos is essentially the most durable thing in the world
that 99.9% dr is pretty chonky
real silo
It's not grown like a tree
split mortar
He used plasma jets to slowly “grow” the armour
deft vessel
He should make the giga mechs from miracle matter
sleek halo
“I forged its armor using a process inspired by how Silva created Braelor's axe: by using particle jets to slowly and carefully fuse many elements together into a nanocomposite, the invincible armor organically "grows" over Thanatos' structure like a chrysalis.”
real silo
He sprays magic particle juice at something until it becomes a desired shape
sleek halo
auric might not have the property
real silo
Basically just a 3d printer
rotund shore
its wild how he knows how the creation of braelors axe worked ngl
real silo
but atomic
sleek halo
its wild how he knows how the creation of braelors axe worked ngl
probably spied on them
he is amazing at recon
considering he did it for centuries
lol
real silo
Meet the spy
rotund shore
draedon would 100% be a spy main ngl
he would play engi but he finds this turrets too rudimentary
sleek halo
True
split mortar
Draedon would play the meta characters for the map
deft vessel
How do the boss weapons work in the lore? Do you just rip out the bosses body partsv
sleek halo
Who know
split mortar
How do the boss weapons work in the lore? Do you just rip out the bosses body pa...
Probably
untold oracle
its wild how he knows how the creation of braelors axe worked ngl
He’s got cameras everywhere
sleek halo
Yk something
spring helm
Maybe Draedon just asked
sleek halo
Him making Exo Prisms
split mortar
Draedon is a professional stalker
sleek halo
Has probably unlocked so many ideas for him
split mortar
Yeah cause he isn’t restricted by energy Input anymore
sleek halo
because there was probably some ideas that just lacked the energy to work (exo mechs being on eof em)
real silo
draedon replacing all lightbulb symbols with exo prisms because that's how good of an idea they were
spring helm
That and the absolute control the neural-based circuitry gives him
split mortar
draedon replacing all lightbulb symbols with exo prisms because that's how good ...
Nah all battery symbols
untold oracle
Nah all battery symbols
Real
real silo
weirdest part for me is how the hell did he power his body if it used the same exo tech
sleek halo
because there was probably some ideas that just lacked the energy to work (exo m...
Like space travel
Is a lot more feasible
spring helm
Imagine going to the sunken sea laboratory without any knowledge on exo technology or Draedon and just seeing this gigantic sea prism being grown
sleek halo
Because now there’s no worry about energy
split mortar
weirdest part for me is how the hell did he power his body if it used the same e...
Normal energy generation
Like nuclear or something
untold oracle
I wonder how exos’ circuitry blueprints look like
spring helm
So detailed it’s unreadable to most people
real silo
the fact that he needed exo prisms for the exo computers to be usable but his body has the same computer and doesn't need prisms is weird
Maybe I'm misinterpreting something
deft vessel
So detailed it’s unreadable to most people
We need more comics🗣️🗣️🗣️
spring helm
Exo technology is named after exotic resonance, but is based on circuitry based on his own neural network
sleek halo
the fact that he needed exo prisms for the exo computers to be usable but his bo...
Exo tech is based
off his brain
spring helm
Exo technology is named after exotic resonance, but is based on circuitry based ...
This massively increases energy requirements, which is where the exo prisms come in.
But if his body’s already connected to the computer wirelessly then I don’t think it would need that much power, since the computer already has exo prisms
real silo
Kinda funny how he just turned All his tech into his brain
spring helm
Look I’m just saying using a hammer would be much easier if it was basically just another arm
untold oracle
Kinda funny how he just turned All his tech into his brain
Draedon hivemind
So he literally controls the exos in his mind?
spring helm
Upscale that to an entire industrial revolution worth of technology
sleek halo
Yeah
real silo
he is become the exo mechs
spring helm
Technology singularity
Coming soon to a Draedon near you
real silo
he hasn't had the time to fully explore it
sleek halo
yeah
real silo
Bro finally unblocked creative mode
spring helm
I think his crowning achievement in the future would be finding a way to reverse entropy
Since he’s unlocked infinite energy already
real silo
He's going to do it
He's going to undistort the distortion
Draedon chucking 17 exo mechs into CV to maim noxus and terraform the distortion
spring helm
I need Draedon to make me a mech suit the size of DoG ASAP
untold oracle
I need Draedon to make me a mech suit the size of DoG ASAP
Draedon should start a business fr
deft vessel
Noxus is going to hire nodeard to break draedons tech
real silo
It would be really funny if draedon pulls a dormammu against noxus
noxus I have come to bargain
spring helm
Honestly now that Draedon has unlimited energy he doesn’t even need to harvest for materials anymore
He could just build a giant particle collider and make whatever he needs out of pure energy
vocal spire
draedon makes 1 billion clones of himself and sends one by one until noxus gets annoyed
untold oracle
Honestly now that Draedon has unlimited energy he doesn’t even need to harvest f...
Draedon becomes a mechanical god by the time he gets to that point
split mortar
He can already use some weird particle jet thing for Thanatos body
So he may be at that point slightly already
real silo
Draedon becomes a mechanical god by the time he gets to that point
Truly a nightmare fabrications by charlie debnam music
split mortar
Learn science
real silo
Interstellar travel
untold oracle
He wants to uncover everything ig
split mortar
Learn and learn until he knows EVERYTHING and then turn off
untold oracle
That’s so anticlimatic
split mortar
Well he completed his objective, why would he keep himself and his machines turned on afterwards
real silo
He can start venturing into other universes and start fucking around in there
split mortar
He can start venturing into other universes and start fucking around in there
Then he wouldn’t know everything and therefore has an objective still
real silo
Well idk
It's like the heat death of the universe
That shit's not happening in anyone's lifetimes
untold oracle
It's like the heat death of the universe
That’ll likely become his #1 enemy
Given he can literally keep going for googols of years
split mortar
He prob can stop the heat death with mass producing exo prisms
real silo
Draedon creating full on suns using comical amounts of exo prism
split mortar
Like it would be far in the future when he can mass produce enough of the prisms but it would prob be in his power eventually
untold oracle
Maybe, just maybe, given 10 more years, Draedon will finally reach nuclear fusion
split mortar
Pretty sure someone did a calculation and deduced a single exo prism is more powerful then a fusion reactor or something
wheat walrus
Pretty sure someone did a calculation and deduced a single exo prism is more pow...
That was me
spring helm
Terrarian at Draedon’s exo fabricator
D: “What do you want Terrarian?”
T: “Five hundred cigarettes.”
split mortar
You seem to do a lot of the scaling that I have seen
spring helm
That was me
Show the calc again
split mortar
Prob search some big numbers and you could find it
deft vessel
Dredon leaves the game and come to the real world
wheat walrus
Show the calc again
I did it 3 quadrillion years ago and I don't think I'll be able to find it, but I remember it was based on some outdated info (hence why it may be remade)
I will point out that the exoprisms being stronger than a nuclear reactor isn't surprising though
spring helm
MAKE ANOTHER, POWERSCALING MAN
wheat walrus
MAKE ANOTHER, POWERSCALING MAN
At the beach rn
split mortar
Oh damn, have fun and enjoy it
wheat walrus
:3
split mortar
Eat the sand
real silo
Dig up clams
wheat walrus
Already did and we're gonna go to a pizzeria restaurant thing soon
real silo
find amidias
deft vessel
Drink the sea
real silo
become a subject of tyrian
untold oracle
Already did and we're gonna go to a pizzeria restaurant thing soon
Sounds good man
wheat walrus
:3
deft vessel
Already did and we're gonna go to a pizzeria restaurant thing soon
Is’nt that just a pizzeria
split mortar
Either way yeah draedon has surpassed nuclear fusion already I’m pretty sure
wheat walrus
Is’nt that just a pizzeria
Basically
untold oracle
I’m not sure how should I write my terrarian’s doc
Am I just gonna make it some long journal about her remembering stuff or some fight with Yharim or smth
hoary berry
there are tons of approaches you could take
a more "standard" story primarily followings your terrarian directly, a bunch of little snippets of ideas you find interesting, short stories from other characters' perspectives about your terrarian, alternate lore items
a combination of any of them and more
untold oracle
Another thing I’m wondering is the length