#lore-discussion

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swift badger
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The propaganda is insane free my boy Yharim

rotund shore
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lol

high lynx
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Who doesn’t

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Anyway

fallow steeple
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Actually free my boy yharim

true hatch
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Silva already has a BF his name is Braelor stop hitting on her smh

fallow steeple
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he wanted dragons back

spring helm
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from his point of view, there is no "perfectly good" because to become a god you have to consume an auric soul (murder)

pliant ruin
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silva is his mom get it right smh

rotund shore
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I was explaining cal lore to my friend today so I’m glad I glossed over Silva so he didn’t go ooooo woman like always

spring helm
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silva polycule

swift badger
true hatch
fallow steeple
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I want dragons back!

pliant ruin
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dragons and gods were neither entirely evil or entirely good

fallow steeple
high lynx
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Doesn’t yharim hate “the falsely divine” and not specifically the idea of a god?

sinful adder
rotund shore
pliant ruin
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so true

high lynx
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Because what makes a god a god

true hatch
sinful adder
pliant ruin
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RISE MY sunken scourges

high lynx
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Why did they decide absorbing an auric soul makes you a god

pliant ruin
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RISE AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD! RISE MY scoogs

swift badger
high lynx
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What is a scoog

sinful adder
fallow steeple
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IDC if dragons are bad I just wanna see dragons

pliant ruin
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fighting aquatic scourge and seeing the desert scourge resprite has made me a scoog appreciator

spring helm
pliant ruin
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it's time to change my nickname

true hatch
sinful adder
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The slime god is an obvious example

high lynx
spring helm
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Cheese the Gay Hater

fallow steeple
true hatch
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I should be able to have a Dragonfolly mount that I can ride to charge nobly into battle

sudden ruin
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woah ,,,

high lynx
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Did xerok declare himself a god

true hatch
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That was like, the first thing he did upon becoming a god

swift badger
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Just like Devourer called him self the Devourer of Gods

spring helm
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Xeroc was the first one so I don’t think the concept of a god was around before him but the concept of worshipping beings was

pliant ruin
fallow steeple
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Is the slime god a natural god not eating a auric soul

pliant ruin
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loved it

rotund shore
spring helm
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Terrarian drip

high lynx
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So he just decided that absorbing an auric soul made you a god for some reason?

pliant ruin
spring helm
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Well “gods” just weren’t a thing until he did the ritual so yes

fallow steeple
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Slime god is a actual god not like the one that eats soul right?

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yay

pliant ruin
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nah

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slime god ate an auric soul too

sudden ruin
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i heart scoog

pliant ruin
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all of the gods did

true hatch
rotund shore
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He eated soul

pliant ruin
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the only "god" that didn't do the ritual was astrum deus

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and that's because

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it isn't an actual god

high lynx
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So they call themselves gods because they have lotsa power

pliant ruin
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it's just a alien organism

true hatch
high lynx
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So gods are a concept

rotund shore
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People just praise deus for some reason

swift badger
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So where dragons stronger thqn gods?

high lynx
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They aren’t real

pliant ruin
fallow steeple
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Is full power astrum deus powerful or weak

swift badger
pliant ruin
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gods and dragons aren't like

true hatch
pliant ruin
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generally stronger than eachother

fallow steeple
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What is it

pliant ruin
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the strongest god (xeroc) is stronger than the strongest dragon (zeratros) but zeratros is also stronger than every single god we fight

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so

fallow steeple
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is it just a slime

sinful adder
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Everything called a god except astrum deus was a human that consumed an auric soul and gained a bunch of power

pliant ruin
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it's not being a dragon or being a god that makes them stronger

pliant ruin
high lynx
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But is xerok stronger though?

pliant ruin
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yea

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xeroc is the single strongest character in the mod

high lynx
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How do we knoe

pliant ruin
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dev statements

high lynx
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Oh

true hatch
pliant ruin
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Xeroc is stronger than zeratros

sinful adder
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Anything that fuses an auric and non auric soul makes something stronger than either of the original souls. These are called gods

fallow steeple
rotund shore
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Xeroc is a goddamn beast

pliant ruin
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Dev statements moment

true hatch
high lynx
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But they weren’t really alive at the same time

rotund shore
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He’s cool

high lynx
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Strength wise

fallow steeple
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is astrum deus chill like that

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Why did we have to kill bro

pliant ruin
swift badger
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Old lore Xeroc

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Was crazy

true hatch
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Can't wait to just start spreading misinformation and add "Said in a dev statement" to make everyone believe me

pliant ruin
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someone probably has a screenshot somewhere

high lynx
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Thats why we kill most things

sinful adder
high lynx
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Like aquatic scourge

pliant ruin
swift badger
pliant ruin
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so i don't blame you

pliant ruin
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chat is

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going really fast right now

sinful adder
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Canonically, astrum deus doesn't die when you fight it

pliant ruin
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and alot of questions are being asked

spring helm
pliant ruin
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also my girlfriend is calling me goodbye

fallow steeple
sinful adder
sinful adder
swift badger
true hatch
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Also Auric Souls are kinda just like... a cheat way to get power?

Non-gods can become stronger than Gods with enough effort and skill

high lynx
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Or were they just strong enough to kill the dragon, and then they just got better after absorbing its power

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Like 1 + 1

sinful adder
fallow steeple
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Are we a god or are we just like that

swift badger
sudden ruin
high lynx
sinful adder
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Thought it might be multiplicative

spring helm
true hatch
fallow steeple
devout grove
sinful adder
devout grove
fallow steeple
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so the terrarian is just that person

spring helm
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Yes

high lynx
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We arent a god because… nobody knows, because we didnt get to absorb yharons soul

true hatch
high lynx
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For some reason

spring helm
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Guide knows

sinful adder
spring helm
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You just never asked

true hatch
fallow steeple
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Because yharon is a cool dragon

sinful adder
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The slime god was a weak human and a weak dragon combined. Keep in mind, it's stronger than an entire army of human soldiers, but it's weak compared to other gods

spring helm
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Yharim would’ve gone super saiyan with rage if you absorbed Yharon’s soul

true hatch
latent bolt
high lynx
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We need a real god

spring helm
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Why

high lynx
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Not these fakers

fallow steeple
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Is Providence a real god

spring helm
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Ok what’s a real god

devout grove
true hatch
high lynx
sinful adder
spring helm
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Bleh

true hatch
swift badger
dusky flame
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hey guys

spring helm
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Hello

sinful adder
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Hi

high lynx
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Not for me to decide

swift badger
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Or Noxsus i forgot

dusky flame
sudden ruin
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noxsussy

sinful adder
pliant ruin
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hai

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i hath returned

sudden ruin
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scoog

devout grove
pliant ruin
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scoog

spring helm
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That was fast

fallow steeple
swift badger
spring helm
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Why are you back already

high lynx
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The gods we know are only gods because they stronk and because xeroc said so

sudden ruin
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why the X

true hatch
# swift badger Nexus

Nope, because aside from having basically no actual lore on them, we don't even know if they're a god

pliant ruin
sinful adder
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Hold on

sudden ruin
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isnt it like uh around 6 am

swift badger
high lynx
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Well he has the power that let the dragons revive

fallow steeple
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alr guys so what I'm getting from this is we just kill everyone except for calamitas

spring helm
fallow steeple
sudden ruin
true hatch
# devout grove no providence took an auric soul

Assuming that ascension to godhood precludes someone from being a true god is silly.

Look at Greco-roman mythology. Specifically Hercules/Heracles. He ascended to godhood, and is not considered "Not a true god" just because of it

high lynx
fallow steeple
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And I haven't even gotten to yharon yet

spring helm
pliant ruin
devout grove
sudden ruin
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oh

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oh wait i was thinking of a wronh country

sinful adder
sudden ruin
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oopsies

pliant ruin
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what r we talking abt now again

fallow steeple
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why is xeroc just him

high lynx
sudden ruin
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who is fovus?

pliant ruin
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thge stars aren't literal star

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s

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do yk the

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fallen stars

sudden ruin
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fovos

pliant ruin
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those

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yeah

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it eats those

high lynx
pliant ruin
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but like, bigger versions of those

spring helm
pliant ruin
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but still not real life star sized

spring helm
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They’re balls of mana

spring helm
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Draedon

high lynx
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Oh

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Wait when

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Space inquiry?

sinful adder
true hatch
sudden ruin
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who is fovos pwease yeowch

pliant ruin
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SORRY LAWLSI

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things are going by fast right now im having a hard time keeping up

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but um

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fovos is just another name for moon lord

sudden ruin
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oh lel dont worry

pliant ruin
sinful adder
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Moon lord original name and before he was beat up

sudden ruin
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whar the freak !!!

fallow steeple
high lynx
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Best calamity character?

fallow steeple
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Because like zeratros is 345

devout grove
spring helm
sudden ruin
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why is fovos stronger than yharim!!!

true hatch
# high lynx Space inquiry?

Yeah, he says they're "Balls of Concentrated Mana" and when they die that Mana goes "off" if it isn't consumed. That's what causes the Astral Infection. And Astrum Deus are the things that eat said dead stars mana

pliant ruin
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fovos is kind of crazy!!!!

sinful adder
sudden ruin
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we literally kill him!!

pliant ruin
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also if we're wondering why xeroc is so damn strong:

true hatch
high lynx
pliant ruin
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he had alot of factors in his favour

sinful adder
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It can't be 10 because someone with a power level of 1000 is way more than 100x a normal human

sudden ruin
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yeah hes the first ascended god right

sinful adder
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Yes

fallow steeple
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Is exo mechs stronger then yharon

spring helm
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Yeah but not by that much

pliant ruin
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  • incredibly strong human ( he was already near yharim level back them iirc)
  • soul of the strongest dragon
  • trained further even after he ascended
  • had a perfect ascencion
fallow steeple
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Because if so draedon might be that guy

lone moss
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Random trivia for my characters - Sofia is a middle-aged mage coming from a distant kingdom, looking to establish her own utopia on the lands of Terraria. As she has largely mastered her control over creation magic, she is already kind of a deity in human shell, without involvement of any Auric soul.

This is a justification for why she is a Journey Mode character.

high lynx
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Wait cant exo mechs “destroy the world”

devout grove
sinful adder
pliant ruin
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xeroc had basically everything in his favour for him to turn out as strong ash e is nowadays

pliant ruin
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they can kill gods yeah but that's not specifically what they were made for

pliant ruin
sudden ruin
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xeroc one of the coolest lore

pliant ruin
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if draedon wanted to he could lol

true hatch
fallow steeple
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so draedon is just smart like that

pliant ruin
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he just dosen't have any reason to

high lynx
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Draedon doesn’t care about gods as much

pliant ruin
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and if he did

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threaten the world as a whole

high lynx
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Yeah

pliant ruin
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someone would probably put an end to it

high lynx
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He likes science

fallow steeple
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Is draedon the one who made the mech trio before plantera

pliant ruin
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whether it's the terrarian, xeroc himself or even mf yharim

high lynx
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Yes

pliant ruin
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he made their bodies

devout grove
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chat when distortion update. guesses? and what would it be called

true hatch
sinful adder
high lynx
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The souls are yharims troops

pliant ruin
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but they're not AI

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yah

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they have actual human souls in them

fallow steeple
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Calamity lore is that deeo

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And it's not even done yet

high lynx
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Draedon didnt like that they weren’t controllable

sudden ruin
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dreidel dreadel wouldnt end the world hes too smart for that

fallow steeple
sinful adder
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Mech bosses but they're fnaf animatronics hehe

high lynx
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Draedon is my favorite character

pliant ruin
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Calamity lore is surprisingly nuanced yah i'm a big fan of it

sudden ruin
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i love xeroc

high lynx
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I live calamity lore

fallow steeple
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So when is calamity final boss releasing

devout grove
pliant ruin
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Calamity might genuinely be on my top 10 writing projects -

high lynx
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I joined this server for calamity lore

sinful adder
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Draedon won't end the world... Unless he finds a reason it would benefit his quest for knowledge

pliant ruin
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I wouldn't say it reaches top 5 most likely but

sudden ruin
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i think id agree cheez

pliant ruin
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top 10 yah probably

spring helm
fallow steeple
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I joined the calamity server to see what they were cooking

high lynx
true hatch
sudden ruin
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i think chainsaw man is high on my list of well written projects

high lynx
pliant ruin
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Yeah?

true hatch
pliant ruin
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that dosen't really mean it's not nuanced

fallow steeple
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Is devourer of gods fraudulent

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Or what

pliant ruin
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It just means the protagonist isn't a murder hobo

high lynx
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Yes

devout grove
sinful adder
pliant ruin
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They just kill things that are Actual Threats towards them

sinful adder
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Besides "not soon" and "someday" we don't know

fallow steeple
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Some day xeroc will become a boss

pliant ruin
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Idk if that comment was supposed to be a sarcastic joke or an genuine criticism but if it was the latter it was a pretty poorly thought of one

fallow steeple
devout grove
sudden ruin
spring helm
sudden ruin
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i think its likely but not confirmed

true hatch
calm patio
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noxus and xeroc being superbosses are a maybe

devout grove
pliant ruin
sudden ruin
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god i hope noxus and xeroc are added

high lynx
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Bro they have a thing you get ingame that when you ask a robot guy about it, he starts talking about an axe belonging to a semi minor character and you’re trying to tell me the story isn’t nuanced?

sudden ruin
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some of the coolest parts ngl

pliant ruin
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It's hard to tell sometimes because wee woo internet

devout grove
calm patio
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No

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it wont be

sudden ruin
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yeah no

true hatch
devout grove
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darn

sudden ruin
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maybe some info

pliant ruin
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Noxus being a eldritch existential horror

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pleas

sinful adder
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We know we're getting:
Sunken sea update
Distortion (alternate dimension after ceaseless void)
Something in the sky islands possibly
Brimstone crags update part 2 and 3
And then yharim after all that is done
And then maybe Xeroc and noxus after that if the devs aren't completely worn out by then

fallow steeple
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Noxus MIGHT be in a update

pliant ruin
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i've never seen

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a single noxus design

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that i actually liked

fallow steeple
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Not next update

pliant ruin
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to be honest

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well except one

fallow steeple
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Just a update

pliant ruin
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which i thought was decent

calm patio
pliant ruin
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but most of the noxus designs are just
so boring

devout grove
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noxus will be in a bug fix update Troll

sudden ruin
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we might get noxus lore and stuff in distortion

high lynx
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Whats the longest playthrough you have of calamity

sinful adder
high lynx
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Mines like 17 hours

true hatch
spring helm
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I’d like it if noxus was just the entire distortion, but that doesn’t seem to be plausible for a game like terraria

pliant ruin
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distortion update will definitely give us noxus lore yah

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noxus itself no but

sudden ruin
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new info Glisten

soft geyser
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Cheeeeeeeeesssssseeeeeeee

devout grove
pliant ruin
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some more insight into wtf is going on with it? most definitely

pliant ruin
soft geyser
high lynx
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Thats like half of my total tmod time

soft geyser
fallow steeple
high lynx
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Wow

fallow steeple
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I'm tweaking out tho because I chose infernum

devout grove
fallow steeple
sudden ruin
high lynx
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I always start playthroughs and play until mechs because i kinda suck at the specifically

soft geyser
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Not me having over 2000 hours

high lynx
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I feel like thats probably average though

true hatch
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I'm currently on my first playthrough, though I'm just doing Revengeance because I already suffer enough bullshit playing War Thunder

pliant ruin
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it is not really "noxus" tbf so its hard to count it as one but

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if you count it then

high lynx
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Terraria is my most played game but i only have 500 hours

pliant ruin
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its def my favorite yet

fallow steeple
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My friend suggested infernum for my first playthrough

sudden ruin
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community and the devs still half call it noxus so

fallow steeple
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So now I'm suffering

soft geyser
fallow steeple
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People in this server warned me

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I didn't listen

cloud ibex
sudden ruin
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nope

fallow steeple
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And now I'm getting ripped in half

sudden ruin
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but

devout grove
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my friend beat infernum with me before he beat vanilla terraria lol. (he died over 1000 times)

pliant ruin
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nop but we've seen little teasers of it

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and it looks kind of awesom,,,

cloud ibex
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As far as the public is concerned it’s still Noxus

fallow steeple
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So

sudden ruin
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they are pretty awesome about showing sneak peaks and answering questions

high lynx
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I’ve been thinking of getting the mod that makes the game run at like 4x speed and beat infernum

cloud ibex
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Fog of a dying world

fallow steeple
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I mean good thing about infernum

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Cool hp bars

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So

high lynx
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And then go back to basic and be like rock lee from naruto with the weights

sudden ruin
devout grove
high lynx
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Im also working on doing infurnum boss rush hitless but that’ll take ages

sudden ruin
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avatar is a super cool design though

fallow steeple
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I'm working on how to not violently take out my anger on my younger brother

sudden ruin
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dont have anger issues

sudden ruin
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just realize that its cringe

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to be angry

fallow steeple
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I've died to early bosses so many times in my first calamity run rn

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I'm gonna start tearing up

fallow steeple
high lynx
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Im pretty good at the game up to mechs

fallow steeple
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I must stick to the playthrough tho..

high lynx
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And after mechs but not mechs specifically

calm patio
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for starters, infernum will break with masochist/eternity.

Infernum will overide with GFB ai

devout grove
fallow steeple
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I can't ditch

high lynx
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Im so bad at mechs for some reason

calm patio
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pointless

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just nohit at that point

sudden ruin
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yeah, but people want there freedom to do it

devout grove
high lynx
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Yeah no hit boss rush infurnum

sudden ruin
high lynx
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Fun

fallow steeple
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My friend is telling me he didn't rage once during his infernum playthrough

calm patio
sudden ruin
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infernum overrides all boss ai changes iirc

sudden ruin
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is obama that good at nohitting

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one of the bigger names

fallow steeple
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What is Obama shrooms bro what

calm patio
sudden ruin
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yeah hes mad cool

high lynx
sudden ruin
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surprisingly chill person

high lynx
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Yknow what weapon is kinda crazy?

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Mana flower

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Anyway im going to bed

real silo
rigid echo
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whats moon lords purpose in calamity, ive completely forgot

split mortar
warm gull
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To be an evil fucked up silly guy

rigid echo
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wow i thought hed be a god or something

split mortar
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Nah just a alien

rigid echo
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hes a bit of a dick actually

real silo
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he is not silly he isvery serious

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there is zero whimsy in any of his 7 eyes

warm gull
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He is fucking whimsical

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You just aren't silly enough to understand

real silo
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I'm the third silliest person I know

split mortar
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You gotta have whimsy if you move and thrive without the lower half of your body

real silo
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you wouldn't know silly if it hit you like a truck

warm gull
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I wish silly would hit me with a truck

sinful adder
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Lore question

split mortar
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I wish I could hit people with trucks

sinful adder
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Why are things that aren't humans shaped like humans

warm gull
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Which ones

split mortar
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Ilmerians and elementals?

sinful adder
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Examples include:
Moon lord
Elementals
Goblins
Fish people
Lihzards

warm gull
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Ilmerans are basicallg shaped like seahorses with the ability to grab things

split mortar
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Convergent evolution maybe?

sinful adder
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I know the obvious reason is because this is fiction, but I mean the canon reason

split mortar
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Like they all evolved the same attributes separately?

warm gull
split mortar
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We don’t know if moonlord from distortion

warm gull
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I mean I guess it could but

split mortar
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Could be

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But it holds cosmic powers of this realm

warm gull
split mortar
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We don’t know if fovos from the distortion

warm gull
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besides fovos probably didn't evolve

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Since he is from distortion he probably is entirely supernatural in nature

split mortar
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When was it said fovos from distortion

pliant ruin
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i think they cofnused fovos and noxus

split mortar
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Oh

warm gull
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I did not

pliant ruin
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fovos is just the Space Squid Man

warm gull
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What kind of fool do you take me for

split mortar
pliant ruin
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i take you for Daichin

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because you are Daichin

cloud ibex
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proof?

warm gull
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I can't prove that I'm me

pliant ruin
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though actually you could also be Daichinchin

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since that's your username

warm gull
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You'll just have to take cheese's word for it

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Anyways

split mortar
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Where did you get that fovos was from distortion? It from space

warm gull
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I will type out the answer in morse code

real silo
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fovos is not a distorter

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he will never be friends with the disturtle

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just say you have insider information

warm gull
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I have become the very thing I swore to destroy

real silo
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daichin gets banned for leaking calamity lore

split mortar
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Pretty sure the mods can see deleted messages

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Or have a way to

real silo
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Shouldn't have said fovos was a distortion creature and stated it as fact smh

warm gull
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It's just my personal theory

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That I have extreme confidence in

real silo
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sure..

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We'll go with that

warm gull
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Christ you guys are about as subtle as a customer asking if the cashier meant to give them back too much change

split mortar
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Don’t think autistic people are know for being able to be subtle

warm gull
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Literally just don't talk about it how hard could it be

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Move on

split mortar
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Alrighty

real silo
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damn ok

pliant ruin
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im making mac and cheese

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and nobody can stop me

sinful adder
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Draedon should be Dr eggman and piss on the moon

real silo
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draedon au where he spends 2 centuries building a death star laser to blow up fovos alongside the entire moon

split mortar
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Just convince xeroc to do it, far less resource intensive

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Macked the cheese

dusk field
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draedon rocking up to xeroc's sky palace with a slideshow on why blowing up the moon would be beneficial

split mortar
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Exactly

sinful adder
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As far as I'm aware, Xeroc refuses to ever interfere with anything happening on terraria

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Otherwise he'd be more significant in lore events, you know?

warm gull
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I subscribe to a similar theory

sinful adder
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I would guess that he probably exclusively is waiting for noxus to try something

warm gull
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That xeroc wants to protect terraria exclusively from external threats and leave the planet to its own devices

sinful adder
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Interesting

warm gull
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I mean his whole thing seems to be inspired by the dragons near-defeat at the hands of fovos

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That would be scary

split mortar
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Protect from things like fovos or noxus

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But stuff like yharim or providence? Eh leave it that’s the planet being normal

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Though if moonlord was fulls Trenton after being freed by us this would mean xeroc would interfere

sinful adder
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"Trenton"

split mortar
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I’m leaving it there

fading sun
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What would happen if one of providence's commanders got the soul instead

warm gull
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We would have had a different god

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Perhaps more or less radical

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Though idk if you can get more radical than providence

split mortar
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Providence is a nihilist or something, hence why she erases things

The others may be as bad in a different way

warm gull
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Hard to imagine something as bad as wanting to kill everything

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I mean there literally cannot be anything worse

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Like

split mortar
warm gull
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Okay but whose ideology is to just torture every living creature on the planet forever

pliant ruin
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Making it so everyone on earth has to eat nothing but coleslaw forever

warm gull
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isn't coleslaw just cabbage and n stuff with ranch dressing on it

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I don't like ranch dressing

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yucky

pliant ruin
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it's kind of like salad but like bad

woeful patio
dusk field
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the fact that she has followers at all is proof

warm gull
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I don't know why providence isn't out and about killing everyone all the time

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Like wtf is she waiting for

real silo
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yharim too scary

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Doggo too

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Well I don't think dog is actively hunting her in new lore but still

dusk field
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Yharim knows where she is, at least I assume so

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I imagine the only reason he isn't actively trying to get rid of her is because he's too busy wallowing in his self pity

real silo
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his old man bones can't catch up with provi's eternal youth

dusk field
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supposedly he's going to be one of the endgame bosses so I don't think that holds up

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Prov is pretty high up there but she's still below DoG, SCal, and Exos

split mortar
split mortar
dusk field
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so she's a hypocrite AND a coward

split mortar
dusk field
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noted

split mortar
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It’s why she survived the crusade
She knew when to flee a battle

dusk field
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I mean, so was the slime god, and the only reason Yharim left it alone as far as I can tell is because it didn't intentionally consume the auric soul, it kinda just stumbled upon it
unless I'm misreading the lore

split mortar
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Slime god was a human

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It just fled while its paladins fought

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Then made new ones

dusk field
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even still, Yharim has, or had, the means to hunt them down if he wanted to, not only did he have the twins but he also had pretty much full control over Terraria for a solid few decades before we get there afaik

split mortar
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Evidently not as much as you thought, cause he does want them dead

dusk field
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unless they somehow leave Terraria I don't think they could just outrun him forever

split mortar
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They didn’t outrun forever, they outran him till he was too old

Plus slime god being a weak god and providence being much more dormant likely made them lower priority targets

dusk field
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okay but again, Yharim is planned to be a superboss, so "Yharim is old = more god activity" makes very little sense, unless he suddenly grew a conscience when he turned 100

warm gull
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deadpool

pliant ruin
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(not a superboss but yeah

dusk field
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or the final final boss, whatever he is

warm gull
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nah tf is john warhammer doing in lore discussion 😭

split mortar
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Yharim has like a decade left, he seems to want us to take the mantle godseeker so he prob thinks we will kill the last remaining gods

pliant ruin
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tbh i do think provi escaping yharim is kind of in a weird place rn because

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slime god i can understand right

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hes a slippery slimy guy, plus he even does escape from us and only dies when he gets trapped in the Crystal

warm gull
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Yharim is coping with the fact that silva can't be killed

split mortar
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Just hide in the mantle of the planet

dusk field
pliant ruin
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but the idea with provi is that like

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she can like, turn incorporeal ig since shes like made of fire

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and that makes enough sense

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but then sHe just

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dosen't do that

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when we're fighting her

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the idea is that she got cocky and underestimated us and all that but

warm gull
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as far as we know xeroc could be killed conventionally but is just too strong, silva legit can't die

pliant ruin
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that seems a bit strange, i'll admit

dusk field
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silva also isn't a god though afaik she's an elemental

pliant ruin
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if mf slime god

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could escape from us

split mortar
pliant ruin
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why couldn't providence atleast Try

warm gull
split mortar
pliant ruin
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i think it'd be good to have a more solid reasoning as to why providence didn't escape

pliant ruin
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like

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slime god makes sense because they got

warm gull
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Also why doesn't she just go into incorporeal mode and shoot fire at you or whatever without being able to be hit

pliant ruin
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Trapped

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in the crystal

split mortar
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Don’t the guardians have like 30% of her power, maybe that’s why

pliant ruin
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but provi, as far as we know, has no actual restrictions behind why she can't just

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🏃‍♀️

warm gull
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I mean dog lets you kill him due to sheer cockiness too, he can make portals

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
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because

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in phase 2 of the reworked dog fight he'll send you to the distortion

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so i assume its like

split mortar
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It’s dog, ofcourse he has the ego

dusk field
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DoG isn't smart, he's just good at lying

split mortar
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Not good at lying

pliant ruin
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dog notices hes losing outside of his domain > sends you into the distortion to go "haha surely in here they'll lose"

dusk field
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good at being convincing

pliant ruin
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he then realizes he's still dying

dusk field
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not luying

pliant ruin
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he then realizes since he sent you to the distortion he can't

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you know

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send you to the distortion

warm gull
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He can leave the distortion??

pliant ruin
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it's not like provi where she just

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dosen't leave

pliant ruin
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basically on his home now

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he could leave, regain his strenght or w/e and come back

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but then you probably would do that too

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and

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he already has one Really Strong Guy on his home to deal with (Braelor)

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make that Two and he has a problem

dusk field
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if noxus gets turned into a superboss what if you have to use ceaseless void to get into the distortion

celest kettle
pliant ruin
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you will

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regardless of noxus coming or not

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distortion will be a fully explorable biome etc etc

warm gull
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The distortion is already going to able to be visited yeah

dusk field
#

like you have to get succd by cv

warm gull
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Stars above did multiplayer subworlds so calamity distortion presumably will be able to as well

split mortar
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Pretty sure ceaseless fight will be how we unlock the ability to enter distortion

warm gull
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Yeah probably

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I'm so confused as to how exactly

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Yknow

visual kiln
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hi chat

warm gull
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You fight a portal

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Why do you beat the shit out of a portal

dusk field
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killing cv spawns a portal that looks like cv's corpse in the center of the library?

warm gull
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No cv itself is a portal

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So like

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Why do you have to fight an object

dusk field
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because calamity

warm gull
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It would make sense if it had some kind of sentience of its own but it's literally just a portal

mighty zenith
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you're gonna be fighting the spell cultists put on it iirc

warm gull
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That would make more sense

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Dragon cult was allied with yharim so they're bad right

dusk field
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i mean they were

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until yharim was like "nice place, I'm using it as a prison now"

split mortar
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Lunatic cultist out a busted ass spell on the portal which is why it attacks

thorny marlin
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literally just let prinsoners of war die there lol

split mortar
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It was meant to be a prison but he stopped giving food and water so they died

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Even the jailers did

thorny marlin
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how you fuck up that bad

dusk field
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and that's how that stupid fat plantera ghost came into existence

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i hate pg

split mortar
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No, some random tribe of people just fed a man pant a copious amount of souls

cosmic zenith
split mortar
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Oh wait you mean polter

dusk field
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yes

split mortar
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Yeah

pliant ruin
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i trust you guys 🙏

cosmic zenith
pliant ruin
#

i'd personally like ceaseless more if it was like

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less of the usual "boss fight"

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and more of a sort of endurance type thing

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like... think of torch god but like. an actual boss

split mortar
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Oh like the fight is a desperation ohase

pliant ruin
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i think it'd be a neat idea

split mortar
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Would be unique

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May take a bit to get to work

pliant ruin
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ofc this isn't the Only path the fight could take to be Better it's just my personal take on it n stuff

warm gull
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It would be cool if you killed the cultists and broke their spell and the fight was just a bunch of ravenous distortion creatures flooding out immediately

dusk field
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I hate desperation phases as a concept but when the whole bossfight is just a bullet hell dodging simulator that's not as bad

cosmic zenith
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Yeah, it's a neat idea
Though I feel like it'd polarize setups too much towards defense, if you can't really damage CV

split mortar
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Maybe cv could deal much higher defense damage if it were to go down that path

dusk field
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each attack only deals 10 damage but it ignores all defence and dr

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5 minute long bullet hell

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cv becomes a touhou boss

warm gull
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I really hate invulnerable phases in bossfights where you just have to dodge without damaging anything

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Arbitrarily

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They aren't bad

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Just don't like em

dusk field
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i disagree

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it's one of the only problems I have with calamity

warm gull
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Like the very last phase of astrageldon in cata after you get its health to zero and can still fucking die from those stupid asteroids when it's doing the death cutscene

dusk field
#

desert scourge fixes the problem entirely where he becomes invulnerable, but he spawns his little guys

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you're still attacking something, still fighting in the boss fight

split mortar
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Yeah but most of the time it’s pure dodge

warm gull
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Yeah I want to be able to hit something

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I don't want to be forced to wait

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That's my problem with fargo bosses

split mortar
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Don’t think there’s much of that except for mutant

dusk field
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If I wanted to turn my brain off and just focus on dodging I would play summoner

warm gull
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(Mostly because it slows down farming them later in the game when you still have to wait for their stupid dodge only phase to be over)

split mortar
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Whips make it so you do focus

hoary berry
dusk field
warm gull
split mortar
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Oh

warm gull
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Yeah and lifelight

split mortar
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But kaleidoscope buffs your summon damage by 22%

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10% crit and 12% damage

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In calamity

warm gull
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Unofficial calamity whips turned to max damage

thorny marlin
hoary berry
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personally i don't mind desperation or invulnerable phases inherently
obviously, sometimes i'll encounter one that i dislike, but that's more due to disliking the specific attacks used than desperation phases themselves
but overall i quite enjoy them

split mortar
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I do think scal has a few too many invincible phases but eh

true hatch
dusk field
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unless that's added by catalyst

thorny marlin
#

catalyst was unoffcial calamity whips

hoary berry
#

the coral crusher is from catalyst yeah

dusk field
#

that makes sense then

real silo
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the only "whip" cal adds is cnidarian

true hatch
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Calamity making whips do % damage boosts kinda keeps a few of them viable throughout the entire game

dusk field
#

anyway back to lore

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so what about that distortion huh

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wild shit

woeful patio
#

Primordial Darkclueless

split mortar
split mortar
dusk field
#

e

hoary berry
#

f

split mortar
#

g

deft vessel
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Also Noxus

woeful patio
#

h

mortal osprey
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I

thorny marlin
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hi lore chat

untold oracle
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Hellooo

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How was the primordial wyrm created?

wheat walrus
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it's a wyrmmmm

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excwept

mighty zenith
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he was born

wheat walrus
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it'0s old!

untold oracle
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It hates xeroc for some reason (I wonder clueless)

wheat walrus
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and blessed by silver the godeth of life

untold oracle
sleek halo
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shrimple

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(that’s probably what happened)

untold oracle
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Ohh

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I thought wyrms etc happened later on

sleek halo
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Auric souls are gifted, not passed down so

untold oracle
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Yeah

sleek halo
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just primordial is the first

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same with fishrons lineage existing during the period of auric dragons

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old duke is the proof of that

untold oracle
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I mean like I’d think there were also a lot of regular looking aurics that lacked an auric soul after all of them were gifted away, and much later happened all fishrons, wyrms, follies etc

sleek halo
#

though whether old duke is the oldest fishron is up for debate

sleek halo
split mortar
sleek halo
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any dragon born will be just a dragon

untold oracle
#

Kinda like dragons crossbreeded with other species

sleek halo
untold oracle
sleek halo
#

my guess is that they were born like

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just under halfway through the age of dragons

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probably existed for most of it

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Dragonfollies asfaik are one of the few draconic offshoots that seems to get stronger

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with each generation

untold oracle
#

It would not make sense if two dragons have a child and it’s some pig mutant fish

sleek halo
#

eidolon wyrms seem to just possess the same amount of strength excluding Primordial

split mortar
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Well they are hunted into aggression and hiding so becoming stronger and better at fighting makes sense

sleek halo
#

they also live in the jungle

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which yk

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fuck the jungle

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funniest thing to me is that eidolon wyrms aren’t the top of the food chain

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Reaper Sharks actively hunt them

untold oracle
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Btw, has the world always been in pre-hm before the terrarian? Or is it just from gameplay perspective?

sleek halo
#

Well the WoF was never broken

split mortar
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The average dragon would lose to a reaper shark

sleek halo
#

welll

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no

split mortar
sleek halo
#

reaper sharks are really well made to kill eidolons

sleek halo
untold oracle
sleek halo
#

yeah

split mortar
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Yea

sleek halo
#

absolutely

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they existed

untold oracle
#

Ok

sleek halo
untold oracle
#

It would’ve been weird if you single-handedly spawn thousands of new species into the world

sleek halo
#

Like the strength of an eidolon being equivalent probably doesn’t account for the control of a domain

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just physical strength

sleek halo
#

Ngl I’d be terrified if was a reaper shark and I accidentally stumbled onto jared

#

like all your life you’ve been hunting these dudes and then one multiple times larger just apppears

untold oracle
#

Is it just prim wyrm

sleek halo
#

It’s a nickname for prim

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yea

split mortar
#

Jared just deletes them

untold oracle
#

Jared battle is actually so bs lmao

#

We beat it rather simply w my friend but it keeps shooting cultist attacks that deal like 1000 damage lmao

split mortar
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It’s meant to be like the dungeon guardian for teleporting in the abyss

sleek halo
#

My oc had a fun time with Jared

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(He has a RoD built into his arm)

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(bro was cooked)

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he never actually killed jared

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just managed to fend it off

split mortar
#

Jared was not happy

sleek halo
#

indeed

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Imo for my character Jared was a harder fight than Yharim

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well physically

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but definitely not psychologically

split mortar
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Jared is almost as strong as yharim and Jared prob ambushed so that makes sense

sleek halo
#

(I mean you literally fight Jared in extremely deep ocean and he’s also much more proficient in swimmingh

split mortar
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True

sleek halo
#

Like my dude is a survivor of illmeris so he has good experience swimming

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but not in water like that

split mortar
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Gotta have to learn fast

split mortar
#

Yeah

sleek halo
#

Imo if Yharim were to fight Jared

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He’d lose just cuase of terrain

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Deep ocean is probably not where Yharim excels

split mortar
#

Plus Jared old

novel basalt
#

giant clam solos every boss except crabulon

sleek halo
#

so true

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clamitas

novel basalt
#

supreme clamitas

sleek halo
#

just cause of water

split mortar
#

True

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Though Jared is a very close relative to the dragons

mighty zenith
#

yharim would probably be great at fishing

sleek halo
#

I think he’d spear fish

split mortar
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So there is a chance it doesn’t proc as much

mighty zenith
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jump into water

split mortar
#

Pretty sure after illmeris he got all the fish he wants

mighty zenith
#

grab something alive and suddenly everything in the water dies XD

sleek halo
#

chat

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do you guys agree like realistically jared wouldn’t be able to leave the abyss

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ik he can ingame and he gets enraged

split mortar
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I think Jared could

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Maybe not for prolonged time

sleek halo
#

but I feel like in-world if he were to

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he’d literally just implode

split mortar
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But I doubt there would be any way for Jared to hate “usurped light” from Xeroc if it hadn’t met Zeratros

sleek halo
#

well

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They weren’t always that deep down

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It was only after the hunting of the dragons

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were they forced to go that deep

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also probably what made them so incredibly tough considering the conditions they’d have to adjust to

split mortar
#

If they can handle much lower to normal water pressure I don’t see why they can’t handle air for some duration of time

sleek halo
#

I just think the pressure change now would

split mortar
#

I do think prolonged would have health effects or death

sleek halo
#

be catastrophic

split mortar
#

Yeah for the normal ones, Jared I don’t think would get killed by the pressure

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Health effects yeah

sleek halo
#

Perhaps

sleek halo
#

I doubt Xeroc would honestly fight back against Jared

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even if he was attacked

split mortar
#

True, xeroc could prob just ignore Jared

sleek halo
#

Ancient dragon who has every right to hate him

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And Xeroc doesn’t seem malicious

split mortar
#

Yeah

sleek halo
#

Jared could probably actually hurt Xeroc if he got careless

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but he wouldn’t be the worst thing ever

#

it could be worse

split mortar
#

Could be a lot worse

sleek halo
#

yeah

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Imo the power gap from like

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Yharim to Xeroc is like

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2x

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which is a shit ton but not an unrealistic amount

split mortar
#

Imo, it’s a lot more then that due to I think devs saying prime moonlord would lose to xeroc and what prime moonlord can do

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Since yharim is around equal to zeratros

sleek halo
#

imo the gap is like

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1.1x for zera cause I feel like he’d be slightly stronger than yharim

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1.6-1.7 for fovos

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and 2 for xeroc

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(this is in relation to Yharim)

split mortar
sleek halo
#

Especially cause Zeratros didn’t actually die from Fovos

untold oracle
#

I like when ppl do that

sleek halo
#

He was dying, but the fight ended before that

sleek halo
#

me when I make up a character in my head and give them a ton of trauma

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:3

split mortar
#

Well I’d consider that zeratros was considered going to die to the wounds I’d say they would have died to fovos just would have taken a bit for the wounds to catch up

untold oracle
sleek halo
#

Just that he didn’t die mid fight

sleek halo
#

and a citizen of it

#

so scal and yharim are a bit of a sore spot for him

sleek halo
split mortar
#

Yeah

spring helm
#

I went with the isekai route for my character

pliant ruin
#

hai lore chat

#

what r we talking about

spring helm
#

But he’s not from our world

sleek halo
#

So fovos killing a lot of them might just genuinely be them getting one shot lol

pliant ruin
#

my character is very interesting

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and has very indepth lore

sleek halo
split mortar
#

Mix between character lore and how strong Xeroc is

sleek halo
pliant ruin
#

as in my character is literally just a self insert and i think my life story is like pretty interesting given how much insane things happen on it so

#

by all means my character has very interesting and indepth lore

untold oracle
#

My char wanted to forget her memories so bad she ended up mowing her childhood home biome down to the underworld

spring helm
#

Guh

sleek halo
#

Mine gets to confront both scal and yharim

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also I had a really silly idea for the scal fight

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cause of the rod in his arm

spring helm
#

Guys my character is soooo cool he beat Yharim and scal and xeroc and moon lord and Fovos and noxus all at the same time and everybody likes him and they’re invincible an-

sleek halo
#

he uses it to teleport into scals bubble shield

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and absolutely rock her shit with a punch

pliant ruin
#

guys my character forgot a egg she was supposed to boil on the fire for too long once

#

and by too long i mean like

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way too long

#

so it turned into a charred orb

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it looked like ash

#

this was when she was like 14 and it became a prevalent inside joke amongst a certain friend group

sleek halo
#

(my character gets his ass beat a lot)

#

he beat Yharim on a fluke

split mortar
#

Don’t think getting in close range of the person who can just combust into a brimstone explosion would lead to the most ideal outcomes for your health

sleek halo
#

well actually I don’t doubt

split mortar
#

Fair

sleek halo
#

I know she didn’t