lore-discussion

[deft vessel]

The god of sacrifices must have been pretty strong. since ravager their mangeled corps was around the level of a average deity.

[hot valve]

Considering the revived corpse is intended to be post providence in the future, yeah

Probably one of the strongest gods

[maiden girder]

Providence watching me kill the ravager a ridiculous amount of times ( I don't like the abyss )

[deft vessel]

My Fovos Sprite is almost done

[thick slate]

fovos finted

[maiden girder]

The ravager is a great source of scoria

I fucking hate the abyss

[deft vessel]

He just need legs

[maiden girder]

The rest of it I'm just lazy

What is aerolite

Or whatever it's called

[thick slate]

soon™️

[rotund shore]

On my initial playthrough I just fished got scoria

I’ve now realized that the abyss isn’t actually that bad

[maiden girder]

I just don't like it

[deft vessel]

The primordial wyrm could use a rework

[maiden girder]

Did moonlord just show up and obliterate the dragons

[deft vessel]

Yes

[maiden girder]

No reason just floating around

See big lizard and then kill them all

[untold oracle]

Maaan I feel like destroying this particular continent for seemingly no reason

[deft vessel]

Is Fovos racist comfirmed?!?!?!

[maiden girder]

Who is fovos

[untold oracle]

Moon lord

[deft vessel]

Moonlord but alive

[maiden girder]

Oh

So moonlord with legs

[untold oracle]

[deft vessel]

Yea

[maiden girder]

What do the pillars even so in lore

[untold oracle]

Some people say they’re literally just delusions

The terrarian has schizophrenia apparently

[maiden girder]

Doesn't make sense

[untold oracle]

Like that it just really messes with your mind or smth

Not sure tho

[maiden girder]

What if moonlord just conjured them up to fight you

And then they conjure stuff up

[deft vessel]

He just stalling

[split mortar]

Some theorise pillars are like fovos army and that they represent a different planet it had taken control of

[maiden girder]

Makes sense in that regard

[untold oracle]

Thanos fr

[maiden girder]

I mean if the terrarian was insane it would show up more

And wouldn't explain the fragments and other stuff

[deft vessel]

Have you looked at what the Terrarian does

Wait

[untold oracle]

I have ptsd of that one guy spamming that pic yesterday

[deft vessel]

Yharim is just their schizophrenia and yharim is not in the game couse he is not real

[maiden girder]

My friend wanted the sextant from the sandy angler kit

He got thank you before it

[untold oracle]

Terraria is not real

It’s literally a video game

[maiden girder]

He got thank you and quit killing the desert scourge

He got thank you before the sextant

Ridiculous

I opened one again and guess what

Got a sextant

Some bullshit there

[untold oracle]

When you get fifty trophies before the plushie

[maiden girder]

Thank you has a 1% chance I think

[untold oracle]

Yup

[maiden girder]

The sextant has around 11% accounting for other shit

So major bullshit there

[untold oracle]

What is AS’ point in lore as in why is it killed? DS probably like tried to kill the terrarian first but AS is passive

[maiden girder]

Idk big fish

Mmm fish

[deft vessel]

You cant even eat it

[thick slate]

why do humans kill fish

cause we can 🗣️ 🔥

[split mortar]

It just exists and scares lots of things hence why level two acid happens when it’s killed

[untold oracle]

I’m talking in terms of why do you even tryna kill it

[split mortar]

Refer to the terrarian lore image

[deft vessel]

Racism

[untold oracle]

Eh, yeah kinda

#savetheaquaticscourge

[split mortar]

Then don’t kill it in your playthrough then it’s canon it survives

[untold oracle]

How would Yharim fight you btw?

[split mortar]

Melee

[untold oracle]

Would be sick if it feels like a pvp fight

With no instakills lmao

[deft vessel]

Now that you think about it all of the game fases calamity has a worm that is the scourge of something

[split mortar]

If he bear hugs us we would insta die form rejection

[dull grove]

frogs

[untold oracle]

Yharim can’t get into a relationship smh

[random mulch]

imagine if yharim's blade shatters during the fight and then he just hits you with his hands

[thick slate]

canonically separated gay couple

nuke yharim

[untold oracle]

Yharon though…

[thick slate]

mike tyson punch out minigame

[deft vessel]

Yharim in now canonically a zoophile

[untold oracle]

Do the gods have any control on how will they turn out to be?

[maiden girder]

Gambling

[untold oracle]

Like did Providence choose to look like a sick flame tree angel with diamond

[tall delta]

perfect gods do

flawed gods no

[deft vessel]

Actually i think providence i just the crystal🤓

[random mulch]

not anymore

[untold oracle]

Tf are perfect and flawed gods

[random mulch]

providence is the whole thing

perfect gods ascended with the terminus

[untold oracle]

Is like xeroc a perfect god

[random mulch]

flawed gods ascended without

the only 2 perfect gods are xeroc and silva

[spring helm]

I rise again

[maiden girder]

Has the terminus ran out of terminus juice

[spring helm]

Hello lore channel

[spring helm]

Yes

[deft vessel]

No its just at the bottom of the abyss

[untold oracle]

Do we have any concept art or smth of silva?

[pliant ruin]

hi lore channl i just woke up

[maiden girder]

Where's the terminus juice we gotta refill it

[tall delta]

Yeah but apparently not completly since xeroc detects it when you use it

[untold oracle]

Hellooo

[random mulch]

in the cal references in pins

[spring helm]

#lore-discussion message

[pliant ruin]

silva ,,,,,

pretty,,,, pretty lady

[maiden girder]

Or maybe Xeroc put a lock on it

[deft vessel]

She has probably comited genocide

[rotund shore]

and?

[spring helm]

I kinda want to write a short story from the gods’ followers perspective of them trying to survive against Yharim

[spring helm]

God forgive women have any hobbies

[untold oracle]

No

[deft vessel]

Hornyness detector🧭

[maiden girder]

https://tenor.com/view/bucktooth-smiling-emoji-shocked-happy-gif-14414340958514986407

[rotund shore]

thats a compass

[pliant ruin]

literally where 😭

[untold oracle]

Yharim propaganda ”all gods are evil”

[rotund shore]

compass can't detect horny

[deft vessel]

There is no radar

[rotund shore]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ace-attorney-big-brain-gif-5363889720252618555

[deft vessel]

Enoji

[pliant ruin]

can't even find women pretty anymore what has society came to

guess wht;

im GAY

[deft vessel]

Thats so gay

[untold oracle]

[rotund shore]

Gay people? is that a calamity reference

[maiden girder]

I mean yharim is a weird environmentalist

[untold oracle]

Didn’t silva just put life in abyss that’s all

[maiden girder]

Only likes weird lizards

[spring helm]

I thought you were straight…

[deft vessel]

Thats her of propaganda

[pliant ruin]

all silva canonically did was make a fish really strong and get thrown in the abyss

shes just a girl leave her alone

[hoary berry]

it's true
half of my very being comes from calamity
i'm quite calamitous

[pliant ruin]

also made a gay guy really strong too so shes an ally

so shes good

[spring helm]

She made Braelor cool as fuck so she’s cool too

[pliant ruin]

silva is growing on me shes rly pretty

[maiden girder]

She's a fish

[cosmic zenith]

Not really, save for exceptions like Xeroc (can camouflage their true form and appear as anything they want, using their light powers)

[pliant ruin]

nobody can beat calamitas in the calamity blorbo tier list but silva is climbing in the ranks

[thick slate]

damn liberals

[untold oracle]

Calamitas can NOT beat cooking class

[deft vessel]

Providence is quite hot (literally)

[pliant ruin]

she's a lettuce actually :/

[spring helm]

So it’s just luck that Otonilou and Tyrian ended up looking exactly the same as their mortal forms?

[pliant ruin]

silva is a vegetable

a fruit even

[rotund shore]

Hey chat quick question, which calamity characters could make a waffle and like, not have the waffle iron overflow by using too much batter, but not using too little batter

[pliant ruin]

a legume

[spring helm]

Draedon

[pliant ruin]

mmm

[rotund shore]

yes I am asking this since I just made waffles and underfilled it

[tall delta]

Umm tyrian kinda became ugly

[maiden girder]

Lettuce shagger

[deft vessel]

The dawg

[pliant ruin]

braelor and permafrost seem like good cooks

[spring helm]

500 hours of dedicated waffle research

[pliant ruin]

permafrost because he's both a old wise man and a dad

[cosmic zenith]

Not luck, there are factors involved
Which are outside the person's control

[pliant ruin]

braelor because i feel like beetween him and statis he's the one that like does the cooking

[rotund shore]

braelor is a malewife /silly

[spring helm]

Damn bro he just looks like that no need to call him…

[pliant ruin]

LOL

REAL

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT

[untold oracle]

Xeroc

[pliant ruin]

also draedon objectively could do that if he wanted to because he's draedon but he dosen't count because that's like cheating

since he's draedon

he can do like

anything

[deft vessel]

Slime god just become a blob

[untold oracle]

He has mastered waffling

[rotund shore]

draedon could put literally the exact perfect amount of batter needed

[pliant ruin]

i think xeroc could do it too he seems like a responsible wise guy

but i feel like

[untold oracle]

That’s why he hasn’t done anything

[pliant ruin]

he wouldn't have the experience that permafrost and braelor would have

given they have Families they need to Feed. and also statis feels like he'd really like waffles.

[maiden girder]

Xeroc is a guy in a cave making food

[pliant ruin]

like statis just feels like a waffle guy

[maiden girder]

That's why yharim couldn't find him

[pliant ruin]

i look at him and go. yeah. this guy loves having waffles for breakfast

[maiden girder]

He is just a guy in a cave

[spring helm]

The only gods I’m aware of that kept their mortal forms post-ascension are Silva, Tyrian, and Otonilou.
Those are also the three gods we know of that started out as non-humans.
Therefore keeping your mortal form post-ascension is a non-human privilege.

[untold oracle]

Who are those last two?

[spring helm]

The gods of ilmeris

[pliant ruin]

so permafrost and braelor would be great waffle cooks and xeroc would be a good waffle cook but his waffles would lack the extra touch that the former's have. thats my final verdict.

[spring helm]

Calamitas turned them into soup

[pliant ruin]

fried fish :(

[deft vessel]

The Dog would be a good waffle cook

[rotund shore]

xerocs waffles arent made with love smh

[untold oracle]

Calamitas cannot beat the cooking class 😔

[spring helm]

DoG would say he is a good waffle cook, absolutely fuck it up, and say “that’s perfect.”

[deft vessel]

If you disagree you will be his next waffle

[tall delta]

wrong, tyrian was different before ascension(pretty much every god was)

[untold oracle]

”Bro, I’m literally the top baker ever, I literally invented waffles”

[tall delta]

as i said he kinda became ugly post ascension

[pliant ruin]

he would do that

he'd literally say he's like

[rotund shore]

yeah thats fully in character

[pliant ruin]

the creator of waffles

[maiden girder]

Spam staff of the mechworm

[pliant ruin]

yeah no it is

[maiden girder]

I am the summoner

[rotund shore]

DoG is that guy who would make up a bunch of wild lies at summer camp, except all the lies are about himself

[deft vessel]

He prob say he invented cooking

[untold oracle]

Where’s the picture with the burnt eggs

[spring helm]

Damn I didn’t know that one

[pliant ruin]

Then when he actually makes the waffles he has no idea what a waffle even is so he just gets a entire cube of butter, puts it in a pan, and adds like. 8 eggs

theres your waffles

[rotund shore]

TRUE

DoG is such a dweeb

[maiden girder]

Draedon would make a fully automated waffle factory

[pliant ruin]

he really is

i lovehate dog

he sucks so bad but i can't deny that the way he sucks is somewhat endearing even if he is a evil murder worm

[rotund shore]

he's such a fun character to hate on

[pliant ruin]

YEAH

EXACTLY

[maiden girder]

Any subpar waffles burned

[spring helm]

I’d draw this but drawing DoG in MSPaint is just asking for carpel tunnel

[deft vessel]

I feel line Noxus woul make good waffles

They are just 5d

[maiden girder]

Polterghast?

[pliant ruin]

hey can you make sokme waffles? : D im hungry

[rotund shore]

tbh the visual of DoG eating/making normal human food is hilarious

[deft vessel]

”Haburger you are not a god but i shall feast upon your essence”

[maiden girder]

I wonder could modern army's beat yharims army

[pliant ruin]

polterghast:

H̷̟̉E̴̟̓ ̶͛́W̷͙̒I̶͇͘L̶̀͗Ľ̶ FEEL OUR WRAṪ̷̗H̶̻̀ ̷̞́Ö̸͊U̸R ANGER ̵̑̈́Ò̸̟U̷R FURY ̒H̸̒͌E WHO HAS̒͘ ̷́̚E̶̒̚M̶̯͂P̵̬͆R̷̽ISONED US͓ ̷̗̈́I̶̅N TH̚Î̵̏S̵̙̒ ̴͎̏F̴͛ORM WITH̾͝OUT ̴̓́F̷̍LES̵̮̊H̸ HIS BON̺̈́Ȅ̵̲S̶̈́̏ ̶͑̒WILL BE CLAI̸̓̌M̵͒̐E̴̔D H͌Ȉ̸̈S̴̄̄ ̶̆͠F̵̿LESH WILL ̵̈́̚B̷̧̀Ĕ̵̦ ̴͘YIEL̵̅̏D̷̓ED NOTHIǸ̴̳G̷ WÌ̵͆L̵͓͛L̵̛ REMAIN ͉U̵̓̑N̸͉̉T̸IL H̶͂̃E̸ SUFFERS L̠̿I̴̍̆K̷͆͠Ẽ̸̅ ̷̿̆W̵̃E H̶͋͌A̷VE WE SHAĹ̶̯L̸̙̎ ̸͙̿Š̵͔T̵̰̋RIKE DOWŃ̵̚ ̵̓THE TOR͐͒M̴̦̾E̴NTOR WE̫ ̸̱̿Ş̸̌H̴̟̀Ä̵́̚L̵L STRIKE DO̷WN T̶͆̃H̴̍̚Ë̸͍́ ̷͍͝H̵̆̐È̷̈́R̵ETIC

"i guess that's a no :("

[rotund shore]

Yeah polterghast is right with that statement

[untold oracle]

They literally have draedon’s shit ain’t no way

[thick slate]

polter would so make good pancakes

so many souls

[rotund shore]

polterghast being able to talk would be kind of freaky

[thick slate]

one of them gotta be good at it

[maiden girder]

Icbm

[pliant ruin]

given polterghasts redesign is like

[maiden girder]

Go full highfleet

[deft vessel]

Ye but they gotta do teamwok

[pliant ruin]

more humanoid

[rotund shore]

atleast a few of the people in polterghast have gotta be a master chef

[pliant ruin]

it talking would be really badass

[thick slate]

polter is the perfect jack of all trades

[untold oracle]

Good point

[pliant ruin]

like obviously not talking coherently but just like

[rotund shore]

I love how polterghast is just spiritomb

[thick slate]

blunt rotation with polterghast yharim and scal

[untold oracle]

But the people who suck at cooking prolly outweigh the chefs

[pliant ruin]

the gorillion souls inside it screaming and speaking at the same time forming sentences you can't understand except for maybe one or two words from time to time and the few words you can understand all relate to their anger and suffering

[maiden girder]

Still modern army's would struggle

[pliant ruin]

modern army would win i think

purely on the basis they have mf nukes and tanks and shit

[rotund shore]

yharims average soldier can't beat a tank

[maiden girder]

Modern army when the destroyer comes out of nowhere

[pliant ruin]

like i think yharmy would put up a good fight up until the point the us army goes "yeah these guys are a issue"and actually put in manpower

[thick slate]

destroyer when thermonuclear bomb

[untold oracle]

Warhammer ass combat

[pliant ruin]

the destroyer when anti artillery missile

[sleek halo]

well is it like

yharim is involved as well?

[pliant ruin]

i assume so

[sleek halo]

cause there might be a slight issue

[maiden girder]

It's his army

[sleek halo]

like we getting DoG?

[thick slate]

yharim aint tanking a nuke

[rotund shore]

could yharim tank a nuke?

[sleek halo]

Scal?

[thick slate]

neither is dog

weve gone over this

[spring helm]

Yharim’s army when 15.000 nukes

[pliant ruin]

see obviously the militia

[maiden girder]

Including calamitas and draedons shit

[sleek halo]

A nuke would never hit DoG

[pliant ruin]

wouldn't want to use nukes

but

the moment that like

[maiden girder]

Permafrosts ice guys

[thick slate]

so many nukes

[pliant ruin]

they realize its a threat that is worth using a nuke on

rest in peace

[sleek halo]

he would see a giant rucking missile and say “no imm good”

[rotund shore]

yeah nukes would be the last resort for obvious reasons

[deft vessel]

But the supernova weapon is essentially a Nuke

[sleek halo]

and go into the distortion

[pliant ruin]

supernova is not a nuke

[maiden girder]

But dog is beyond modern armys

So no

[thick slate]

no

[pliant ruin]

if it was a nuke like half of your world would be destroyed

[thick slate]

he gets diffed by a nuke

[pliant ruin]

probably more depending on the specific type of nuke

[sleek halo]

Honestly tho

Draedon is what fucks them

[pliant ruin]

draedon is by far the biggest threat but he takes alot of time to do his stuff

[thick slate]

nuke can beat xeroc

[pliant ruin]

and if we assume

[sleek halo]

excuse me

what

[deft vessel]

But clones

[pliant ruin]

draedon would bring in all of his like

copies

[untold oracle]

What

[thick slate]

here we go

[untold oracle]

Qhar

[pliant ruin]

draedon would technically "win" but only on the basis he has literally endless time to create Something that can destroy the us army

[maiden girder]

And the irish would be a pain for yharims forces

[pliant ruin]

so it'd take time

and on that note

[thick slate]

if xeroc gets direct hitted hes cooked

[pliant ruin]

i don't think draedon would care enough to do that

[deft vessel]

Xeroc can withstand the power of a universe due to helium Flash

[rotund shore]

Could the exo mechs tank a nuke? I guess maybe thanatos could when not overheating

[sleek halo]

we got people who can incinerate seas but the nuke is outputting enough to kill him

[thick slate]

yep

[sleek halo]

[pliant ruin]

so tl;dr i think the yharmy would lose and then draedon would be like "damn" and go do his research

[sleek halo]

I need a little bit of an explanation

[pliant ruin]

the sea incineration took alot of time apparently

[thick slate]

you are overestimating bro

[pliant ruin]

like

it wasn't instant

[untold oracle]

Yharmy that’s a new term

[sleek halo]

Even then that’s far more energy

than a nuke

can ever release

[pliant ruin]

also keep in mind it wasn't a

literal sea

[maiden girder]

Calamitas when someone shoots her with a anti material rifle

[sleek halo]

it was half of a literal

[pliant ruin]

it's more of a underground lake

[sleek halo]

sea

[rotund shore]

illmeris is rather small

[maiden girder]

Fucking paste

[pliant ruin]

yeah illmeris isn't that big

[rotund shore]

compared to the whole ocean anyways

[pliant ruin]

it's undoubtedly a powerful ability

but i think it's not exactly

[sleek halo]

ok hold on

[pliant ruin]

ridiculous to say it's probably not too far off from a nuke

[sleek halo]

the place we play

is the size of a continenet

[maiden girder]

Calamitas doesn't have a shield so a 50 cal to the head would kill her instantly

[sleek halo]

in world

now the sunken sea takes up a good chunk

of that

[deft vessel]

No

[pliant ruin]

idk how big it is in-univverse but ive always assumed it to be the size of a large land mass like idfk australia

[rotund shore]

does australia or illmeris have more fucked up animals

[sleek halo]

That’s still a fucking

[pliant ruin]

good question

[sleek halo]

absurd amount of water

[rotund shore]

i guess most illmeris creatures are chill

[sleek halo]

like

[pliant ruin]

i mean

[sleek halo]

the incineration of ilmeris

imo

[maiden girder]

Break out the big ass weapons

[sleek halo]

could not have taken more than like a year or two

[maiden girder]

Shoot her with a battleships cannon

[sleek halo]

considering the age of scal

[pliant ruin]

nukes did fuck up the entirety of japan and while japan is kind of tiny its still like a entire island

[deft vessel]

All of them can still survive a shot from helium Flash so they are pretty durable

[pliant ruin]

so i still don't think it's ridiculous to say they're not too far off e achother specially considering that cal's incineration took a long passage of time

[pliant ruin]

what is a helium flash

[rotund shore]

I think the power it took to incinerate illmeris was about equivalent to a nuke, but unlike a nuke it isn't all at once

[pliant ruin]

^

i agree w this

[sleek halo]

I categorically refuse to believe a nuke is killing xeroc

i believe it would hurt him

[pliant ruin]

i don't disagree

but i don't agree

[thick slate]

a lot

hurt him a lot

[deft vessel]

And endgame mage weapons that has the power output of a galaxy

[pliant ruin]

i do not think we know enough abt xeroc to say if a nuke would kill them

we know he's the strongest guy

[sleek halo]

i mean the dude controls the fucking sun

[pliant ruin]

but we have no idea what that means

[thick slate]

you know who does know

[maiden girder]

Calamitas could be killed with a depleted uranium bullet to the head

[pliant ruin]

cool bug facts:

weapon descriptions arent literal lore theyre cool sounding quotes

[sleek halo]

^

[thick slate]

#lore-discussion message

[pliant ruin]

if it had the power output of a galaxy you'd destroy the universe by using it

[deft vessel]

But they exist

[pliant ruin]

or something like that anyways

no they're not literal

[sleek halo]

reb isn’t the main writer of xeroc

[pliant ruin]

they don't mean anything

they just Sound Cool

[maiden girder]

Guys

[sleek halo]

im pretty sure that’s cei and ozz

iirc

[maiden girder]

What could kill calamitas

[sleek halo]

with a shield

[thick slate]

fair but still

[sleek halo]

not much

no shield?

[pliant ruin]

i mean the terrarian could've killed calamitas if they wanted to

[maiden girder]

A good old anti material rifle with depleted uranium

[pliant ruin]

but they didn't

[sleek halo]

idk probably a gun

[pliant ruin]

but they have the power to do so

[sleek halo]

she still had fight left

she kinda just

[thick slate]

im too tired to argue my point

[sleek halo]

gave up

lol

[rotund shore]

I still want to make a vid of legendary death gfb scal nohit and its just a 2 hour vid of killing calamitas the npc with flymeal

[deft vessel]

Because she would have lost

[pliant ruin]

I mean yeah but so did the terrarian theoretically

[maiden girder]

With all the Crazy metals that yharims forces will bring in

The bullets will be nuts

[sleek halo]

no because she literally couldn’t care anymore iirc

[pliant ruin]

I think she partially gave up because she realized oh shit i'm doing a bad thing! and she also partially was spared by the terrarian

[maiden girder]

The shit would devolve immediately

[deft vessel]

But she would have lost is she continued

[pliant ruin]

i wouldn't go off calamitas ingame dialogue too much

it's

[sleek halo]

yea

[pliant ruin]

very outdated and rather out of character

[sleek halo]

i’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have cared a ton if she died

[pliant ruin]

like i think the way she stops fighting you because she ''doesn't care anymore" is kind of a weird way to put it even though it's not exactly wrong

[sleek halo]

i mean she’s like chronically depressed

[maiden girder]

I'm saying this a horde of cryons could take a city

[sleek halo]

also doesn’t know permafrost is uh

back

[deft vessel]

Also Draedon has nukes due to the plague bringer

[sleek halo]

and that amidias probably doesn’t hate her

lol

[deft vessel]

Goliath

[pliant ruin]

the way i see it (and the lore writers seem to also share this vision) is that calamitas stops fighting you because she calms down and realizes that she let her emotions take over her and realizes she's doing a Bad Thing

[sleek halo]

^

i mean u are following a similar path to yharim so the reaction is

[pliant ruin]

a headcanon of mine that cei agreed on is that

[sleek halo]

kinda warranted

[pliant ruin]

if calamitas

actually ended up killing you

in a au or soemthing

she'd feel good for like

10 minutes

and then realize what she just did

and be like

oh god

[split mortar]

Sounds like she still had a decent bit of energy for a fight still

[sleek halo]

“oops i did it again”

[deft vessel]

My head Canon is that the Terrarian is the god of rebirth but no one knows

[pliant ruin]

like if she was already having a

panic attack more or less

while fighting you

if she actually killed you i think girl might fucking lose it

[sleek halo]

yeahhh

doesn’t help that her using her magic actively degrades her psyche

[maiden girder]

She was probably already insane during the fight

[sleek halo]

so we stack a misjudged murder, magic that literally eats her mental state, and so much trauma

and the resulting breakdown would not be pretty

and probably not good for anyone near it

[maiden girder]

Draedon wanted a clone of her? Why

[pliant ruin]

yeap.

[sleek halo]

Yharim

Yharim wanted a clone of her

[pliant ruin]

Drae "fuck around and find out" Don

[rotund shore]

Because I dunno her magic is cool and strong

[maiden girder]

Oh yeah

[sleek halo]

Likely cause

[split mortar]

He just did it cause yharim, even though he broke off he still wanted the possible science

[sleek halo]

She’s absurdly strong

and also she left iirc

[pliant ruin]

Draedon's entire life philosophy is fuck around and find out he'd probably make a gun that shoots eels in his meantime or something

[maiden girder]

Why does calamitas clone have a broken hero sword

[split mortar]

That was removed

[rotund shore]

that was removed

and wasnt canon to begin with iirc

[maiden girder]

Fuck

[sleek halo]

i mean

[maiden girder]

I gotta kill that moth

[sleek halo]

he found out that she wasn’t born with brimstone magic

[pliant ruin]

john wulfrum's lost sword after he failed to defeat calclone

[rotund shore]

I mean, why does MOTHRON drop broken hero sword

[rotund shore]

[pliant ruin]

john wulfrum's lost sword after he failed to defeat mothron

[split mortar]

Terraria being terraria

[maiden girder]

Someone stabbed moth

[rotund shore]

Can I just say one time I briefly considered making the terrarian in my fic be john wulfrum

[maiden girder]

Sword broke and there's a broken sword in the moth

Welp gonna sleep now

Almost 3 am

[split mortar]

Bai

[maiden girder]

Fuck

Add John wulfrum

[mighty zenith]

explodes

[rotund shore]

idk why, but that impulse ain't gonna be followed through with

[split mortar]

Maybe because we get attacked by the wulfrum?

[abstract gyro]

wulf jhonrum.

johnrum?

you get the point

[rotund shore]

Although john wulfrum vanquishing yharim would be kind of based

[scenic olive]

Moontron

Moonlord but exo mech

[split mortar]

Why does astrum deus split into two deus mod fight?

[rotund shore]

Because they thought it'd be cool (it isn't I don't like the fight)

[random mulch]

astrum deus can commit mitosis cause it can do that

[split mortar]

Normally mitosis takes a hot few minutes not instant

[sly bloom]

They should bring back Deus being like 8 different worms attacking you simultaneously

[woeful patio]

500 tiny deus

[split mortar]

Only in master

[random mulch]

i hope that if they rework deus they either work the multiple worms thing into something that isnt literally just a second deus, or they just obliterate it

[split mortar]

Pretty sure there will be multiple deus, since otherwise it makes less sense for it to be freed from the infection

Also deus being 8 worms sounds like a pain

And I’m pretty sure it was

[rotund shore]

deus splitting in the same way as EoW

[random mulch]

why would there being only 1 deus make it so freeing it from the infection makes less sense

[split mortar]

I already don’t see us beeting it make much sense for freeing it, but with the duplicate one we kill that and some magic shinanigans could be the reason the infection on the other dies

[wheat walrus]

Calverse VS thermonuclear weapon

[sly bloom]

The boss's behavior was simpler, so it really wasn't as bad as it sounds

[sly bloom]

Everything Yharim and below dies instantly, Xeroc takes major damage from a point-blank hit

[random mulch]

except that we have to kill both, not just one

[wheat walrus]

Idk actually

[spring helm]

candy vegito vs calverse

[wheat walrus]

Storm weaver alone supposedly generates megatons of energy by triggering rainstorms depending on cloud size

[sly bloom]

Hang on, lemme find the post again

^

[wheat walrus]

Granted, the nuke has heat, extreme temperatures usually count as durability negation

[sly bloom]

Being able to damage something isn't just "My megatons are bigger than yours"

[split mortar]

Does primordial light like the sun not make lots of heat

[wheat walrus]

Dev statements...

[woeful patio]

Thermonuclear bomb VS The unmatched power of the fucking sun god

[sly bloom]

Just hit Xeroc with several nukes and he probably dies

[thick slate]

bomb

[cosmic zenith]

Sunlight, not necessarily the sun

[split mortar]

Thought the sun was made of primordial light

[thick slate]

guys xeroc versus black hole

[cosmic zenith]

Not established

[wheat walrus]

Well if you can create a megaton level attack with your powers normally you should be able to resist it unless there's specifics (like with SW Calamitas specifically)

[spring helm]

yeah but that's like saying being able to control photons means controlling the nuclear fusion that happens in stars

[wheat walrus]

Not really

[sly bloom]

Not necessarily. I can swing a sword, but I can't resist a sword unless I have armor

[split mortar]

Calamity sun is different to irl sun I think

[spring helm]

it is

[cosmic zenith]

Besides, what good is having the best offensive and movement abilities for tanking a hit?

[wheat walrus]

Like I said, the raw impact of the nuke isn't what's killing the storm weaver, it would be the heat and likely the radiation

[woeful patio]

Since Xeroc can make copies of our past enemies, does that mean Xeroc can just make an army of Yharim out of primordial light?

[cosmic zenith]

Would be really hard to do so

[split mortar]

Prob wouldn’t be as strong as yharim though

[wheat walrus]

But not all of the characters would die to a nuke due to the heat

[split mortar]

Since most boss rush bosses are kinda easy

Until the later ones

[cosmic zenith]

Because making a Yharim-level foe isn't trivial

Let alone an army

[wheat walrus]

That counts as a weapon

Not your own move

[cosmic zenith]

Also, note that there isn't anything established in canon about how Calamity's Sun works

Everything you've heard until now are dev comments

[wheat walrus]

Being able to shoot a laser og from your hands isn't the same as swinging a sword

[cosmic zenith]

And since it's about Calamity cosmology, it has a higher chance than normal to be tweaked in development

[woeful patio]

sad, man why do we have to wait for updates for lore

[wheat walrus]

Ofc, which is why I refrained to say that Xeroc is anywhere near star level

[cosmic zenith]

Because we have to write it, make sure everyone's ok with it, make sure it doesn't contradict or break anything, implement it, and release it in a decently-sized update

[sly bloom]

He's continental IIRC

[spring helm]

i wonder why

[wheat walrus]

Country

[sly bloom]

Right

[wheat walrus]

Besides both Country Level and Continent Level are LEAGUES beyond any nuke ever made combined

[split mortar]

Cause if they release lore when it’s content isn’t out the. It may give huge spoilers for the content

[cosmic zenith]

That's not much of a problem tbh

[sly bloom]

Xeroc being country level but still getting almost completely fucked over by a nuke shows that outputting destructive force doesn't mean you can face-tank it with ease

[mighty zenith]

its better to tell and show than tell and not show (yet)

[woeful patio]

But still tho, waiting for it is pain

[cosmic zenith]

It's more common for a lore thing to spoil other/future important story than ingame content

[wheat walrus]

Since Country Level's baseline standard is a singular explosion that can incinerate an entire 600k+ square kilometers of area, which is the average surface area of a country

[split mortar]

Don’t think we have a direct scale for xeroc yet

[deft vessel]

Xeroc can tank the supernova weapon

[cosmic zenith]

Look on the bright side, if you got all the lore at once you'd just end up bored

[wheat walrus]

Not really

The only evidence for Xeroc being harmed or killed by a nuke is a dev statement, which can change overtime quite a lot

[split mortar]

It’s not a litteral supernova

[deft vessel]

Close enough

[spring helm]

i could shoot an Barrett M82 but that doesnt mean i could tank a .50BMG

[cosmic zenith]

There's plenty you can do rn, in the waiting period

[sly bloom]

It's all we've got for now, so I'm working with it until it's contradicted

[spring helm]

like beg the lore writers for more lore

[sly bloom]

Exactly

[wheat walrus]

Alright, I won't though

[wheat walrus]

Once again that's a weapon

[woeful patio]

I must be feed with L O R E*

[wheat walrus]

Which is very different from just

[deft vessel]

You know how far is a plague nuke from a regular one

[wheat walrus]

Being able to manifest big lasers of destruction

[mighty zenith]

like making up your own lore to spread on reddit and youtube for misinformation

[sly bloom]

Could Xeroc survive the temperatures of the sun's surface?

[wheat walrus]

Plague nuke is actual fodder

[split mortar]

Oh :(

[spring helm]

i spread it here lmao

[cosmic zenith]

Depends on whether Xeroc can control infrared radiation

If that's how the Sun works, at all

[wheat walrus]

Pretty sure the calcs for surviving the surface of the sun aren't too crazy, problem would be the core which releases Continent-Buster energy every second

Talking about irl sun

[sly bloom]

Yeah

[split mortar]

The cancer light is ultraviolet and above light

Though I’m pretty sure the sun gives plenty of all light

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

It emits all sorts of electromagnetic frequencies

[sly bloom]

Peak energy output of a 1-megaton nuke is 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun

So it comes down to how long he can survive those temperatures for

[deft vessel]

Xeroc can prob teleport

[wheat walrus]

Yeah but what most people don't say about the nuke is that 100 million degrees celsius is only for a few nanoseconds

Before the true fireball forms itself

Which is much cooler

[cosmic zenith]

It's just that infrared (mostly perceived as heat), visible light and ultraviolet (perceived as dangerous radiation) are the most common emissions

[sly bloom]

Oh yeah, most likely Xeroc just dodges it and that's that. He's fast as fuck IIRC

[wheat walrus]

Most of the nuke's energy is the blast/shockwave, which is much more kinetic rather than pure heat

[deft vessel]

Also he’s prob light Speed

[wheat walrus]

Debatable

[deft vessel]

Eol is so presumably also Xeroc

[split mortar]

Don’t think any speed things are out for xeroc, or anyone really

[cosmic zenith]

EoL isn't lightspeed?

[deft vessel]

Im making asumptions

[wheat walrus]

Primordial Light is confusing

[split mortar]

No? Xeroc isn’t sickeningly obedient to anyone iirc

[spring helm]

where does this come from

[wheat walrus]

It's very clearly not actual light even with ingame lore

[deft vessel]

Light attacks and afterimages

[cosmic zenith]

(Which don't happen at lightspeed)

[split mortar]

Xeroc isn’t the only one able to hold primordial

[cosmic zenith]

Any attack at lightspeed is, by default, undodgeable

[deft vessel]

But eol is just like a fraction

[spring helm]

fiction light attacks hardly ever move at light speed

[split mortar]

Just that it’s very few who can

[strange stump]

nerd

[sly bloom]

Going off of EoL lightspeed attack logic, Space Gun's projectile is light speed

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-worlds-rain-world-lizard-rain-world-pink-lizard-rain-world-scavenger-gif-6832069271227215059

[deft vessel]

It is quite fast

[wheat walrus]

Xeroc uses it to recreate bosses down to their physical form and their attacks, like fire and ice, that's not something you just do with photons and nothing more, photons being the particles of light

[sly bloom]

Primordial Light is weird magic bullshit and that's that

[deft vessel]

Yea

[spring helm]

otherwise you could highball Darth Vader as FTL since he stopped a blaster bolt with the force

[wheat walrus]

It's also never referred as just "light", always its specific title, or just "sun"

[sly bloom]

Blaster bolts aren't even light IIRC

[deft vessel]

We gotta wait for the actual fight

[split mortar]

There’s quite litteraly a speed we can see with our character if we have the stop watch on, don’t think calamity has invalidated that

[deft vessel]

The Terrarian can see lighting

Like coming out

[spring helm]

so can i

[deft vessel]

And Dodge it

[spring helm]

okay i cant do that one

[split mortar]

Pretty sure all lightning we see in calamity is magical

So it may not be normal

[deft vessel]

But it could be

[cosmic zenith]

When is there any natural lightning being used as an attack?

[wheat walrus]

Arguing that Xeroc and EoL are lightspeed is even worse than mfs arguing that Ghidorah from Monsterverse Movies is FTL cause it dodged Godzilla's atomic breath, when said atomic breath despite being stated to use Cherenkov radiation, is very easy to see moving as it doesn't move as the radiation does

[wheat walrus]

That too

Lightning speed also depends on many factors

[thick slate]

lightning is significantly slower then light

[spring helm]

how does storm weaver weave storms
im assuming magic but i like to imagine it generating storm clouds like a bombardier beetle

[deft vessel]

^

[thick slate]

or we can talk about it

[wheat walrus]

Usually I average cloud-to-ground lightning to 440 km/s, but it varies on many factors, and in Calamity we know no one who forces lightning to come from a cloud and into the ground except maybe Weaver

[cosmic zenith]

(The attacks certainly won't be lightspeed)
As I said, a lightspeed attack would be inherently impossible to dodge

[deft vessel]

Unless we get the prewiev lines

[split mortar]

Calamity seems to follow the nothing can surpass light speed

[thick slate]

light speed too fast

[scenic olive]

lightspeed feats again

[deft vessel]

All the light feats in media are dumb

Generally

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, because it generally leads to major powercreep

[split mortar]

Or is caused by power creep

[cosmic zenith]

Which is really tricky to write around

[spring helm]

also becomes a nightmare to powerscale becuase you approach infinite energy as any object with mass approaches light speed

[cosmic zenith]

Sure, could have telegraphed lightspeed attacks, but there wouldn't be an entire fight made of them

[wheat walrus]

I remember having to argue against some who believed that Dalamadur from Monster Hunter grabbed meteors from dying stars hundreds of light years away and threw them at you at millions of times the speed of light

And like

[spring helm]

🤯

[woeful patio]

99.9% light speed

[wheat walrus]

The only proof for this was that Dalamadur's meteors are believed to be made of materials that don't exist on our planet

Our as in

[deft vessel]

I would like more Fovos lore

[wheat walrus]

MH planet

[spring helm]

squid games

[wheat walrus]

Usually FTL feats ignore kinetic energy, so unless specified otherwise scalers also ignore the KE

[spring helm]

what

[deft vessel]

Couse now its just
He just randomly came one day and beat every one up. Until they used the power of friendship to seal him away

[spring helm]

how do you scale it then

[split mortar]

Only source would be bestiary or maybe noxus but I doubt Noxus would and bestiary would give us a sentence and a half

[wheat walrus]

You only scale the speed of the feat, not the kinetic energy, since usually fiction ignores that going FTL would destroy everything due to infinite energy

[spring helm]

so it goes from "X character can punch with the force of XXX megatons of force" to "X character can punch XXX times the speed of light"

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, there'll be more lore around Fovos

[wheat walrus]

Ya

[deft vessel]

I want more to work with for my addon

[split mortar]

Yet they don’t give ftl characters universe + or whatever the infinite power one is

[spring helm]

im assuming this will come with the Yharim update and not some Moon Lord rework

[cosmic zenith]

Definitely not a Moon Lord rework

But before a Yharim update

[deft vessel]

Maby with Noxus

[cosmic zenith]

Nah

Can't really tie Noxus to Fovos like that

What we can do is have sources from people who witnessed/studied the invasion

[deft vessel]

Both are eldritch horrors beyond human comprehension

[cosmic zenith]

Which, fortunately, can be done in a lot of ways, in a lot of places

[cosmic zenith]

That's not really how stories work

[spring helm]

ENVIRONMENTAL STORY TELLING!!!!!!!

[deft vessel]

They could give moonlord its own lore item

[cosmic zenith]

Wouldn't do much

Yharim doesn't have more to tell you about Moon Lord

[split mortar]

Don’t think yharim knows Jack about moonlord other then what the dragons know, which is just string murder alien

[deft vessel]

But yharon could

[split mortar]

Don’t think dragons know much about fovos

[cosmic zenith]

Just because things have similarities doesn't mean they are one in the same
Besides, there's the fact that it's significantly harder to convey information through that lens

[spring helm]

Moon Lord lore item
"Idk Yharon didnt want to talk about this guy much he just gets this far off look and disappears for three days"

[cosmic zenith]

Why would he?

[mighty zenith]

yharon just wants to kill you

[deft vessel]

Aslo the only bad part about the lore rework is that the lyrics dont make sense anymore

[spring helm]

yharon can't even talk

[mighty zenith]

they do, mostly

[split mortar]

Only scals iirc

[deft vessel]

Cus it’d be cool

[mighty zenith]

there's only like
a couple of things that dont make sense

[split mortar]

To yharons perspective big alien showed up and wrecked shit, that’s it

[cosmic zenith]

Relying on the rule of cool alone would be disastrous for us

[deft vessel]

Also ”the enemy ascended beyond your control”

[mighty zenith]

roar is almost entirely accurate, sbc isnt accurate by its nature, since it references the terrarian (which is complete headcanon territory)

[split mortar]

Unless there’s some internal lore we don’t know

[cosmic zenith]

That's... refering to the player

[cosmic zenith]

^

[deft vessel]

I think yharim would have told yharon he is assisting them

[split mortar]

Bold of you to assume yharon would let us anyways

[cosmic zenith]

Assisting the player?

[deft vessel]

Or supporting

[split mortar]

At most it’s a semi planned suicide

[cosmic zenith]

You could more or less treat SBC as canon with some stretchy interpretations
But RotJD is basically canon

[spring helm]

all yharim has done to the player is talk about the bosses
bro is not aizen planning out our fights for us

[split mortar]

SBC is only weird when it’s talking about the despondent rulers demand or whatever

[cosmic zenith]

Yharim is manipulating the player more than helping

[deft vessel]

”I dont know if you are with me or against me. I support you fully”

[split mortar]

Draedon helps us more then yharim

[spring helm]

i dont remember that line where is it from

[deft vessel]

Requiem

[cosmic zenith]

Literally saying "nobody will help you"

"Good luck"

[split mortar]

Draedon giving us exo tech in the corner

[deft vessel]

Thats supportive

[cosmic zenith]

It's kinda supportive, sure, but it's part of his manipulation rather than genuine support

[mighty zenith]

just watched like a 3 week old lore video and it really makes me just want to make my own because there's so many small inaccuracies lmao

[spring helm]

straight up says "for nothing else will"
he is not favouring the player

[deft vessel]

I think yharim wants you to kill him

[spring helm]

perhaps

[split mortar]

Yes, but he won’t go down without a fight

[deft vessel]

He’s testing you

[split mortar]

He would kill us in the fight if given the opportunity

[cosmic zenith]

I woulndn't say Yharim wants the player to kill him
Though he certainly wants whoever kills him to continue his legacy of God-hunting

[spring helm]

yharim boss fight

[deft vessel]

But he will not for the universe lets him not

[cosmic zenith]

Eh, he definitely could
The universe isn't stopping him

But naturally, no one would want to write a story where the main character just dies before achieving their objective

[deft vessel]

The Terrarian has like time erasure power or smthing

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

[deft vessel]

That my lore reasoning for respawning

[mighty zenith]

[cosmic zenith]

Fair enough, if you wanna head-canonize that

Though I feel like that erases a lot of the tension in the narrative

[spring helm]

plot armour

classic

[split mortar]

Pretty sure normally we just don’t die and beat everything first try without headcanoning respawn

[cosmic zenith]

Any battle just becomes a matter of time, or of protecting allies

[cosmic zenith]

That's the intended way, and what the narrative is built around

But you can headcanon a respawn ability, of course

[deft vessel]

Well its in the game (unless your are playong hardcore wich i dout)

[cosmic zenith]

It's not canon

Just a game mechanic

[deft vessel]

🤓

[spring helm]

bro

[cosmic zenith]

Everything would go to shit if respawning was canon

Also, please be respectful

[mighty zenith]

by that logic, autopause is canon

because it's in the game

[deft vessel]

Well i mean the npcs respawn

[random mulch]

my terrarian is undead so he just kinda gets back up after enough time

[spring helm]

terrarian dies of alcohol poisoning

canon

[mighty zenith]

not every gameplay mechanic is lore accurate

[deft vessel]

Well in some realities

[mighty zenith]

this is still a mod for a 2d sandbox game

[cosmic zenith]

Respawn in general isn't canon

[split mortar]

There’s game mechanics then there’s lore

[deft vessel]

But its cool when it is

[split mortar]

Stuff like auto pause and respawn ain’t auto canon

[cosmic zenith]

The only creatures that do respawn are the Yharon (and by extent, the Auric Dragons) and the Elementals
And it's a huge deal that largely affects their story

[deft vessel]

.

[split mortar]

“Auto canon” meaning you could make it canon but have to headcanon it in

[cosmic zenith]

It's cool, sure, but if you aren't writing around the fact respawn exists and is that widespread, your story probably end up like shit

[cosmic zenith]

^

Respawning being a thing is your headcanon

[deft vessel]

Thats what im doing

[cosmic zenith]

Just don't act like it should be actual, official canon

[deft vessel]

Well i forgor what we were talking about

[mighty zenith]

basically every game i know with respawning either makes it not-canon (or just doesn't have any lore) or the respawning is a massive part of the story (dead cells for example)

so yeah

[cosmic zenith]

Undertale:

[mighty zenith]

idk why this is so surprising

yea

or hollow knight

[split mortar]

Hollowknight is like half canon with respawn, since other vessels didn’t get a respawn and stuff but there’s lore for ours

[mighty zenith]

yeah its still left ambiguous

[spring helm]

so is brimstone elemental refight canon then

i assume anahita's isnt because leviathan dies

[cosmic zenith]

Nope
While Elementals can reform, it's certainly not instant

[deft vessel]

With the brimrose she just might join you

[cosmic zenith]

Rose Stone, you mean

[deft vessel]

Close enough

[cosmic zenith]

The Elemental accessories aren't the actual Elementals
And we will resprite them in the future to reflect that

[deft vessel]

Well they have not done that yet

[split mortar]

It’s like a fragment of their power controlled by us ?

[cosmic zenith]

After all, you have to kill the Elementals to obtain them
It's a fraction of their power in the form of an elemental construct

It's kinda like your smaller, less autonomous version of the Elemental

[deft vessel]

I think Xeroc likes the Terrarian

Tbh

[split mortar]

Also since xeroc can remake all the bosses we fight does that mean yharim and xeroc just stalk our journey

[deft vessel]

It would be cool like if after the boss rush you could consume Yharon soul. And become the god of rebirth

[random mulch]

the ascension method has been lost

so we cant do it

[mighty zenith]

the only people that could tell you

won't tell you

[deft vessel]

Xeroc prob doesent have dementia

[split mortar]

We still don’t know the ritual and yharon is just a physical illusion in boss rush

[split mortar]

Doesn’t mean he will tell us

[deft vessel]

But you prob have his egg

But he could

[random mulch]

he probably wont

[split mortar]

The boss summon item isn’t canon

[cosmic zenith]

Why would he?

[deft vessel]

Maby he is lonely and wants some company

[cosmic zenith]

Also yeah, the boss summon isn't Yharon's egg, and you won't be able to obtain Yharon's egg for quite some time

[deft vessel]

But when you do

[split mortar]

Yeah isn’t it like a decade before the egg appears

[cosmic zenith]

That's a really shitty justification for killing the last Auric Dragon

[deft vessel]

He is a god he can do what he wants and also thats what they wanted yharim to do

[cosmic zenith]

Who said Xeroc was included in the "Gods" of Yharon lore item?

[split mortar]

Then yharim wouldn’t have been just thrown in lava but instead erased by Xeroc if he wanted company

[cosmic zenith]

And just because he can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean he'll want to do it

[split mortar]

Only some gods

[deft vessel]

This is a hypothetical situation

And it’d be fun to see

[mighty zenith]

would it be fun though?

[split mortar]

We prob wouldn’t become the god of rebirth anyways

[cosmic zenith]

Fair enough
It's unlikely to happen, but if it's just hypothetical, you can just develop the hypothesis

[mighty zenith]

gods usually change quite a lot when ascending

[cosmic zenith]

And yeah, the player wouldn't become the God of Rebirth

[mighty zenith]

so if the terrarian were to become a god, how would you transfer that to gameplay

[deft vessel]

But whit the Terminus you become like a pure one right?

[cosmic zenith]

Speculation

[split mortar]

We don’t know the exact needs of the ascension

[mighty zenith]

the character that's completely customizable to your preference would be given a set in stone ascension

that's just kinda lame

[split mortar]

For all we know terminus could be used for normal ascension and you need attunement, we just don’t have enough info rn

[untold oracle]

You gotta do some fancy ass ritual

The gods prolly don’t want more competition and why would Yharim tell you

Trial and error it is

[deft vessel]

Its if Xeroc would tell you

I mean he gave you his precius pebble

[dusk laurel]

we had to do a whole boss rush for that

[pliant ruin]

xeroc and silva from exes to bffs truther

divorced couple that dosen't get along but after a while they go "wait shit we're the only gods left" and open up to eachother a little and then after a while they don't get back together but instead they become besties

[split mortar]

And then silva gets thrown into the abyss again

[pliant ruin]

and then xeroc is just like

"this is like the 3rd time you gotta stop doing that"

and silva just goes

[deft vessel]

Quite shrimple

[pliant ruin]

"habits are hard to break man leave me alone"

[split mortar]

She justs likes the darkness and quietness of the abyss

Plus one of her friends (ancient wyrm) is there

[abstract gyro]

Unepic

disregarding the fact that it's mostly a comedic game

[deft vessel]

Doesnt Xeroc and the primordial wyrm have beef

[split mortar]

Yeah, but not with silva

[pliant ruin]

whar

[abstract gyro]

uh english is hard

idk how to express that better

[pliant ruin]

i dont know what you even were trying to express

what's unepic? making respawns not canon? making respawns canon? and what game is mostly comedic???? dead cells??? i'm so confused 😭

[abstract gyro]

unepic is the name of the game

quite literally

[pliant ruin]

OH

I GET IT NOW 😭

[cosmic zenith]

Realistically, Silva just goes *bubble noises*

[deft vessel]

Bulb bulb

[pliant ruin]

true but then it isn't as funny,,,,

[deft vessel]

Better than the god of sacrifices

[thorny marlin]

not all gods were evil

yharim killed all the gods for no reason...

[deft vessel]

This about what noise he’d make

[thorny marlin]

do you know who statis and braelor is

I don't know anything about htem

[pliant ruin]

yes

they're champions of slime god and silva and almost killed yharim and r also dating

[thorny marlin]

do we have concept art of statis

[deft vessel]

Yes

[thorny marlin]

then they got murked by devourer of gods??

[pliant ruin]

yes

[deft vessel]

Nu uh

[thorny marlin]

can you show me pls

[pliant ruin]

well

kinda

not really murkled

they were ambushed

after they had already been fighting yharim

[deft vessel]

Then stasis escaped

[pliant ruin]

they couldve def beaten the devourer in better conditions

[thorny marlin]

escaped what

[deft vessel]

The distortion

[thorny marlin]

how

[deft vessel]

Via Signus

[pliant ruin]

deal with signus

[thorny marlin]

can yall show me the statis concept art

[warm gull]

Yharim and braelor/statis were fighting for a while and then the dog showed up and tp'd them away

[pliant ruin]

its in pins

[warm gull]

They were already weakened and dog didn't even have to defeat them

[deft vessel]

He got takeout

[warm gull]

Dog and yharim probably do beat braelor and statis if they are doing a 2v2 tho

If yharim was able to hold both of them off by himself for a long time with his old armor

[thorny marlin]

then what happened to braelor

[deft vessel]

He still stuck

[dusk laurel]

still in the distortion

[split mortar]

Signus only saved statis

Braelor has been in the distortion for a year or something

[thorny marlin]

how is bro surviving 😭

[split mortar]

He is the champion of the goddess of life

[deft vessel]

Indomitable human spirit

[split mortar]

He can prob survive off of just being around living things or some weird shit

[deft vessel]

I dont think there are a lot of living things in the distortion only like 3

[thorny marlin]

his mental state gonna be awful tho

[mighty zenith]

big strong bottom man

[split mortar]

There’s enough that draedon can check that they all don’t have much brain and conclude a possible hive mind

[thorny marlin]

draedon is pretty cool ngl

[deft vessel]

Mantis man

[split mortar]

He is amoral so he has better morals then a lot of the characters weirdly enough

[thorny marlin]

more like robot

[mighty zenith]

there's going to be a lot of enemies in the distortion because the point of the distortion is to be post-ml exploration content

its as shrimple as that

[deft vessel]

🦐

[thorny marlin]

draedon is a much more reliable narrotor then yharim

[split mortar]

Plus we are meant to get the event post dog stuff in the distortion instead when that’s out

[split mortar]

Yeah he is far more reliable

Since he kinda just says how it is, without moral bias

[thorny marlin]

Draedon: only cares about his creations
Yharim: way too complex + is trying to gaslight you

[deft vessel]

Unless it has something to do with emotions (i dont think he understand them)

[mighty zenith]

he can feel things

he doesn't understand the point of empathy though

[deft vessel]

Nah

[thorny marlin]

He lacks empathy

[split mortar]

He has emotions but only related to science since that’s all he cares about

[deft vessel]

His only emotion is science

[split mortar]

Curiosity

[thorny marlin]

yharim has no regrets

[deft vessel]

I think he does

[thorny marlin]

he only regrets when powerful allies leave him

[thorny marlin]

he doesn't regret the mass genocide

no literally he only doesn't regret kicking out draedon

[deft vessel]

He’s in the dragon aerea moping about that he destroyed the world

[split mortar]

He’s moping that he failed his mission and hurt scal and perma and the dragon cult

Not the genocides

[mighty zenith]

he has regrets

they're just not related to his genocides ||||

[thorny marlin]

he's the reason why he gotta build npc housing

because his crusade kinda displaced everybody

[split mortar]

Plus azafure happened but barely anyone survived unscathed

[deft vessel]

Oh yeah. I made a quick scetch of what the god of sacrifices could look like

[thorny marlin]

yharim is cooked

in battle

[thorny marlin]

cool

[split mortar]

Yeah I can see it being a possible one

[deft vessel]

Also nipple eyes

[thorny marlin]

what the fuck

anyway

yharim is stated multiple times he only won his battles due to having a immense edge in intell on this enemies

or by brute force

[split mortar]

And he has been stalking us for the entire journey

[thorny marlin]

how

😭

[deft vessel]

Magic