lore-discussion

[sleek halo]

but also he does pin blame on her to make sure he still looks good enough to you that you don’t view him negatively

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good morning lore chat

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Arson

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Do yall thing Yhramin would be a democrat or a republican?

[woeful patio]

Dictator

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yharim prolly wouldnt care about US parties ngl

[hoary berry]

hi cheese

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he’d come in as a third party and win lol

he is far more charismatic than any politician

he’s great at lying

[split mortar]

So good I’m pretty sure that some people think he is a fallen hero or all gods bad

[sleek halo]

yes

Also he’s militaristic and likes giving lunatics positions in military

so that’s a big help for him

also of course

he fits right in with everyone else

[split mortar]

Plus he big and imposing, idk if that would help but it’s certainly something

[sleek halo]

by being old as fuck

130ish

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absolutely

[latent bolt]

yharim would also be particularly aggressive in political debates too

[sleek halo]

Also no one could assassinate him lol

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also terrifying to argue against

the dude is 8ft tall and wide as fuck

and in a giant suit of armor

not many people would be willing to argue against that

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Funny to think about that when the Terrarian is 5,7 feet

[spring helm]

Isn’t that average

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about

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Like yharim is like about two block taller

He tall

[split mortar]

Thought he was 9 foot

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8-9

somewhere around that

[deft vessel]

When he gets added in 2060 we can compare

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Yeah

[frozen zodiac]

calamity is actually about a short king proving his status by killing a tall dictator

[sleek halo]

so true

[frozen zodiac]

or short queen

[split mortar]

Short monarch

[spring helm]

They should make calamitas as short as the child npc’s
Not saying she is one but I think it would be funny

[sleek halo]

I mean she’s like

5ft or smthing iirc

mught be wrong

[spring helm]

5’4

[sleek halo]

yeah

[spring helm]

So not that short

But

It would be pretty funny if she was like 4’11

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Two blocks and 1 third

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chat do y’all think there was a certain point scal was stronger than yharim

during the crusade times

[split mortar]

No

[spring helm]

Personally no

[sleek halo]

I mean he did consider her his trump card

[spring helm]

I think she’s stronger now than Yharim during the crusade

But Yharim’s also stronger now too

[frozen zodiac]

Yharim in a wheelchair

[spring helm]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

I think there was probably some point during it

[spring helm]

An Exo wheelchair

[sleek halo]

especially cause she was used for illmeris

[spring helm]

Super powerful

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Now if we asume the average calamity god is around the same level as astrum deus And the lunatic cultist is in the same level. Could they be as strong as calamitas?

[frozen zodiac]

Calamitas proceeds to do that scene from Heidi

[deft vessel]

Child version

[spring helm]

No

[spring helm]

Oh

I’m sure they were stronger than calamitas right after she unlocked her powers

[frozen zodiac]

yharim recruited her after the fight with brimmy right

[split mortar]

No, she didn’t have her powers till brim and her got in the fight

[spring helm]

Right about then yeah

[sleek halo]

I mean I will say

Yharims armor was only upgraded recently

which was likely a good boost

[deft vessel]

Also why do some of the gods have like servants that are stronger than them?

[spring helm]

Like?

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Because worship doesn’t only relate to the god being strong

[spring helm]

That too

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But would it hurt their ego

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Braelor was likely stronger than silva

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depends

gods aren’t the same

they all are different

[spring helm]

Someone that goes to the gym regularly will be stronger that their local mayor but they still follow the city laws

[deft vessel]

And The Terrarian as the profaned emissary

[spring helm]

The what

[sleek halo]

But I could honestly see Scal being stronger than him at some point

[frozen zodiac]

the terrarian is you!

you HATE demon...

[deft vessel]

By using the profaned soul crystal you become the Profaned emissary

[sleek halo]

Just not having the mental fortitude to actually go through with killing him

[spring helm]

That’s a dev item, non-canon

[sleek halo]

especially after the permafrost stuff

[deft vessel]

@spring helm 🤓

[spring helm]

Okay

[frozen zodiac]

the emissary? the subspace emissary from super smash bros brawl?

[spring helm]

But yeah I suppose you could view your Terrarian as Providence’s emissary

Just make sure you blow up the world before you finish the playthrough

[deft vessel]

As every one should

[bronze plover]

To be fair, if you tried to not follow the law, the police would get to you

[frozen zodiac]

it genuinely took me until this moment to realize the subspace emissary refers to the ancient minister helping tabuu expand subspace

[split mortar]

Braelor be the police

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For all of them?

[split mortar]

The armour was still better then our auric armour

[split mortar]

Considering he nearly killed yharim I’d say that he does suffice as enough

[sleek halo]

Well they were pretty much just even

statis being there is what probably nearly killed him

[deft vessel]

But Bro got distrosioned

[sleek halo]

just Yharim had the better 3rd party

[split mortar]

Yeah, though braelor def did the most but statis just made it unfair for yhar

[sleek halo]

Yeah

I’d say if it was just Braelor and Yharim though

[split mortar]

I’d expect a worm the size of a mountain to be better then a slime ninja

[deft vessel]

But luckilly yharim had the dawg

[sleek halo]

Braelor (imo) would’ve lost

over time

[split mortar]

Same

[sleek halo]

auric rejection and 100 years worth of skill and training

[split mortar]

Auric rejection would have made it awkward to hurt the yhar

[sleek halo]

even though braelor was physically stronger than him

[split mortar]

Silvas blessing strong

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I mean

[spring helm]

Going to punch Yharim and you just fucking explode

[sleek halo]

it’s a blessing of a god vs the attunement of a dragon

which also ended up being equal

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What if Xeroc (ascended)and Fovos had a 1v1 who would win

[sleek halo]

Uhh

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I wonder what else rebirth attunement does

[sleek halo]

Probably Xeroc??? But

it’d be close

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Xeroc tyeah but it

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Last time this was mentioned someone said it would prob be xeroc 85% of the time

[pliant ruin]

wouldn't be a easy fight

like prime ml would definitely put up a fight

[sleek halo]

I would say

55-45 imo

[deft vessel]

Ye we dont rlly know anything about Fovos tho

[split mortar]

Same with xeroc

[sleek halo]

We just know they were probably stronger than everyone on the planet at the time they existed

[deft vessel]

Theres more Xeroc lore

[split mortar]

Yeah

But not much for his direct strength

[deft vessel]

Also im making a ingame Sprite for Fovos

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Unless we learn to make yharim shit himself he just made another sun or something but nothing so far confirmed on his power

[split mortar]

Good luck

[deft vessel]

Im working an his abs

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Yk what I wonder

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Give him a 64-pack

[sleek halo]

Ngl I forgot

[deft vessel]

He def goes to planet fitness (imagine a winking emoji here)

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I mean

he was able to create things near on par of scal and the exo mechs

[small citrus]

Yharim should look like he's buildt liek a brickhouse

[sleek halo]

I mean

he does

considering your art

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Yeah but it was a small amount of primordial light per bossrush boss

[sleek halo]

yeah that’s kind of the point

Primordial light is kinda fucking nuts

[spring helm]

I’m pretty sure two SCals will kill Yharim

[sleek halo]

yeah absolutely lol

[spring helm]

And Xeroc can definitely make more than 2

[split mortar]

Yeah

[deft vessel]

Just fight Xeroc whit primordial darkness

[sleek halo]

scal alone would give him a hell of a fight and has a pretty good chance at actually killing him rn

[split mortar]

Yharim just starts having to fight scal level yharons if he ever tries to kill xeroc

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Buildt liek?

[sleek halo]

he’s really not that much stronger than her

[sleek halo]

built like

[spring helm]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-gif-25140477

[split mortar]

He has more skill, but scal is just very very powerful

[deft vessel]

Minor*

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Also she’s uh

she has range

[spring helm]

Yharim can only punch

[split mortar]

Isn’t yharim a melee mage?

[sleek halo]

maybe

[sleek halo]

no

as far as we know rn

[spring helm]

True melee Yharim

[sleek halo]

he’s all physical might and technology

[small citrus]

In my defense I'm recovering fomr surgery

[spring helm]

Wuh

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Fair

[small citrus]

Typing hard

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

Hope you have a good recovery

[sleek halo]

also probably has a weapon

[spring helm]

Back on the Calamity grind Lilac 💪

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what if i get blessed by Xeroc and beat yharim to death

[small citrus]

LOL

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I always thought he just had a really big sword and probably a laser beam he can shoot

[small citrus]

Oh god I cannot focus right now ona rt.

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YHAR BEAMM

[sleek halo]

Yharim should just have a gun

he just shoots you

[scenic olive]

he should shoot laser through his visor

[spring helm]

Bald

[bronze plover]

Like the laser comes from the middle of the sword like shulks monato or whatever it is

[split mortar]

You are not the next kana

[bronze plover]

Literally a receding hairline

[split mortar]

Yharim has his own zenith type sword and so the range ld attacks are just 50 swords we don’t get to use filling the screen

[small citrus]

That rerminds me that I did have sketches of Yharim's sword and it wa sjus one big sward that could be pulledin half to let him dual wield

[deft vessel]

Would’nt it be a brain line

[sleek halo]

does it have a chain…

[small citrus]

I haven't thought of adding a chain

[sleek halo]

auric chain would be awesome

[spring helm]

THE DUAL WIELDING YHARIM

[small citrus]

It seemsliek that would get in the way

[sleek halo]

what are you gonna do

geab it

[small citrus]

Oh god you grab tje auric chain and you're launched 50 feet thorugh a wal and thank yiou

[scenic olive]

you used God Slayer dash on yharim

[bronze plover]

Bro that looks awesome

[scenic olive]

and he just dropkicks you

[sleek halo]

yeah or he just like

[scenic olive]

[sleek halo]

wraps it around u

and you’re cooked, literally

[small citrus]

You coulduse him as a trampoline

[spring helm]

Springtrapped

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You touch it and you freeze to deatg cuz chains are always feel so cold

[sleek halo]

also would give him a ranged option that isn’t just

technology stuff lol

[scenic olive]

laser beam from his visor

[small citrus]

I was thinking he'd have dragion like attacks too

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

woah!!!

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Meteors

[pliant ruin]

did it go well :o

[small citrus]

Yep

[bronze plover]

He chucks yharon's unhatched egg at you

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-yippee-gif-mami-tomoe-madokamagica-gif-27162393

hell yeah

[small citrus]

My entire chest is in pain and I gotta do maintenace but yay

[sleek halo]

If I don’t see Yharim bouncing off the walls in a attempt to hit you I’ll cry

[pliant ruin]

happy 4 u

[small citrus]

Guess you could say that

I got a couple of things off my chest

[sleek halo]

at absurdly high speeds

[pliant ruin]

ehehe. hehe.

[small citrus]

😛 😛 😛 😛

[deft vessel]

🥁

[spring helm]

[livid bobcat]

What was the name of the era when calamitas destroyed azurefure

[bronze plover]

Mantis lords yharon fight

[sleek halo]

so true

[bronze plover]

"The era where calamitas destroys azurefure"

[livid bobcat]

Just like what era was that in

[spring helm]

During the Crusade

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There should be a optional fight where you could fight yharon and yharim

[bronze plover]

😐

[pliant ruin]

puns are funny ok.....

[bronze plover]

Yharon is just the egg that yharim chucks at you

[pliant ruin]

actually does that count as a pun. i'm not sure. i dunno. still.

[small citrus]

I mean it works in a literal sense

[pliant ruin]

future boss yharim

WAIT

LOL

[bronze plover]

Guys would a yharon egg taste like chicken egg, spicier, or better

[pliant ruin]

FUTURE BOSS YHARIM

AND THEN IT'S JUST A CORPSE

😭

[deft vessel]

I mean what if the Terrarian is so hot the egg hatches again

[sleek halo]

(also can just be a chain that’s hidden in the handle and just have a press of a button to release it)

it’s so shrimple obviously

[spring helm]

I know this isn’t lore related but

Free shipping calamitas

[pliant ruin]

"Wow, time to fight future yharim... surely he'll be incredibly powerful after having killed xeroc or something...."

finds yharim's corpse laying on the ground in the family guy peter pose

[spring helm]

Y’all already know what I’m boutta do

[small citrus]

They're all gonna be shipped by the end of AUgust so thats exciting

[sleek halo]

i mean he had the best inventor making his shit so it’s not too unrealistic

[bronze plover]

Yo i should get one

[pliant ruin]

I really hope i get to order one of them

[sleek halo]

indeed

[pliant ruin]

What are the stocks looking like right now? Are they nearing the end already?

I only get paid on the like, 5th of next month 😭

[spring helm]

I will buy 400 calamitas plush

[small citrus]

They apparently had liek 400 extra plushies to fell lo

[spring helm]

Set them free

[deft vessel]

I dunno why but she gives me cow vibes

[pliant ruin]

i need my scrungly so badly

she's my favorite i enjoy her

[scenic olive]

fighting Yharim ghost

https://tenor.com/view/bakishadowboxing-baki-hanma-yujiro-hanma-baki-shadow-boxing-gif-17276456435241517102

[spring helm]

Why is he punching air

[bronze plover]

😡

[split mortar]

It’s baki

[spring helm]

Wait that’s Baki

Nvm

[scenic olive]

shadowboxing

[small citrus]

shadow boxing

[deft vessel]

He’s fighting Ghost yharim

[sudden ruin]

baki??

[pliant ruin]

he's fighting future boss yharim

[sudden ruin]

i love baki

[split mortar]

What would happen if you absorbed yharon and killed yharim

[pliant ruin]

(future boss yharim has died because he's old

[spring helm]

Auric Tyrant no longer

Now

Dead

[pliant ruin]

auric casket

[scenic olive]

with or without the ritual?

[spring helm]

Lmao

[deft vessel]

Auric senior

[split mortar]

With ritual

[scenic olive]

[spring helm]

You become a god and Yharim gets springlocked in his armour

[scenic olive]

then you can probably get stronger as a god and beat xeroc

[bronze plover]

I thought that was jojo lol

[scenic olive]

just like Xeroc you just train with your power

[deft vessel]

I mean i asume that you can beat Xeroc as a mortal

[split mortar]

He doesn’t die

[bronze plover]

Who wins, xeroc, or springlock yharim

[split mortar]

After our fight

[split mortar]

William afton

[deft vessel]

But the Terrarian is just built different

[pliant ruin]

Technically it's a possibility yeah but none of the mortals in the entire lore rn could

Like by all means A Mortal could beat xeroc

[split mortar]

Well xeroc is litteraly just too much for us to do more then give a paper cut

[pliant ruin]

but none of the existing characters in the lore that we know of can

[bronze plover]

I mean, isn't xeroc a mortal?

[split mortar]

He a god

[scenic olive]

he was

[split mortar]

Even normal gods don’t die

[scenic olive]

they just dont age

[deft vessel]

You can recreate the big rip

[split mortar]

They just become formless essence affecting the world

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

Not litteraly

[spring helm]

Big rip is small

[split mortar]

Otherwise we would be far beyond everyone in canon

Though terrarian can do it if you want

[deft vessel]

I asume we will be

[scenic olive]

honestly the best way i think you can beat Xeroc is if you were to have the destructive power of Noxus

[bronze plover]

I mean, so do humans

[spring helm]

We’re just that good 💪😎😎

[deft vessel]

Just use apotheoisis

[spring helm]

DoG summon

[split mortar]

Dev weapon not canon

[deft vessel]

Womp womp

[scenic olive]

after all Terrarian been through they probably has some insane combat skills

pair that with Noxus destructive capability

you got yourself Xeroc but better

[deft vessel]

Just eat Xeroc yourself

[split mortar]

We ain’t beating the sun

[scenic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/what-if-doctor-strange-power-nom-more-gif-23770022

[split mortar]

That’s just xeroc ascending

[scenic olive]

me eating 32 auric soul fragments

(i died from explosion)

[deft vessel]

I just have a strong stomach

[bronze plover]

What woukd xeroc taste like?

[split mortar]

Hot

Light

[deft vessel]

Like blue berries

[bronze plover]

Would auric bars taste better or worse

[sudden ruin]

burning coffee

[bronze plover]

Cuz they look like gold, and u can bite into gold

So u can eat them

[deft vessel]

They look like they’d taste like fish fingers

[bronze plover]

Ehhh

I think it woukd be like if u ate a gold wrapped chocolate bar

[scenic olive]

bite them and break all your teeth from the auric rejection

[bronze plover]

What if ur wearing auric armor

Or have auric teeth

[deft vessel]

Just use yharon soul fragment sauce

[scenic olive]

technically Auric derived from the word Aurum

which means Gold

[bronze plover]

Exactly

Do you think it would taste like that one lightning shocked skewer from ratatouille

[scenic olive]

it would taste like uhh

[quartz pier]

Gnawing on miracle matter

[scenic olive]

a straight punch to your jaw

not shocky

[bronze plover]

Miracle matter would taste like a salad and a rainbow smoothie

[scenic olive]

well it would also shock you

[bronze plover]

And probably dirt

[deft vessel]

Chat gpt made a list of stronges calamity lore characters

[quartz pier]

Who even is xeroc and nexus I'm moron

Am Uber moron

[sudden ruin]

i hate ai

[bronze plover]

Bro

[deft vessel]

The god of primordial light and some random eldricht horror

[bronze plover]

Why is the endgame terrarian lower than the things the endgame terrarian kills

[scenic olive]

draedon the 10th

[bronze plover]

Draedon > terrarian

[scenic olive]

bro didnt vouch for another ai

[quartz pier]

Ah I forgot how many gods ate in the game

[sudden ruin]

draedon himself isnt strong hos creations are tho

[deft vessel]

Nepotism

[quartz pier]

That's like calamities thing isn't it

[scenic olive]

draedon finna built a better chatgpt

[bronze plover]

Draedon has so many copies of himself, the terrarian cant kill him

So draedon wears down the terrarian

[scenic olive]

[bronze plover]

And then wins

[scenic olive]

just blow up all his computers

now he doesnt have any backup

[bronze plover]

Real

[deft vessel]

Blow up the planet

[bronze plover]

The space computers?

[quartz pier]

I'm sorry I just feel bad, I don't even know why lol

[scenic olive]

even the space computers

[bronze plover]

What happens when he has computers on the next galaxy over

[scenic olive]

just go there

[bronze plover]

Terrarian suffucates

[scenic olive]

whats stopping you from space travel

[deft vessel]

But they can breat in space

[bronze plover]

The end game terrarian cant beat the 20 exo mechs that draedon has while he's in space

[languid badge]

nuh uh

[bronze plover]

With what tho

[scenic olive]

put auric ore in feet
???
fly
profit

[deft vessel]

Why did Draedon not make a zord out of the Exo mechs and use it as a Mech suit

[bronze plover]

Tf u mean ???

[scenic olive]

[deft vessel]

Tomfoolery

[scenic olive]

use auric rejection to launch yourself out of orbit

[split mortar]

That’s basically hekate

[scenic olive]

also

[bronze plover]

How would u put them on ur feet

[scenic olive]

im pretty sure auric armor have built in oxygen tanks

[split mortar]

String

[latent bolt]

why do i headcanon draedon as having received immunity to auric rejection

[bronze plover]

20 exo mechs>end game terrarian

[scenic olive]

nah id still win

[split mortar]

He hasn’t though, rejection makes it a pain to work with so he doesn’t use it

[bronze plover]

What if draedon replaces tge computers the terrarian breaks with better computers

[split mortar]

You can headcanon tho

[bronze plover]

Bro is not gojo

[scenic olive]

he can send all the mech he has and ill break it again

[deft vessel]

My headcanon is that Draedon is actually a small mantis inside a Mech

[split mortar]

Beat em again

[bronze plover]

Then he replaces them

The terrarian dies of old age right?

[split mortar]

Then break them

[split mortar]

Given time maybe, though we could just ask scal to revive us via necromancy

[bronze plover]

Then its not the terrarian tho

Its the undead terrarian

[deft vessel]

But the Terrarian can respawn

[bronze plover]

🫸😃🫷

Im right you're wrong

[split mortar]

Still terrarian

[split mortar]

Denied

[bronze plover]

Isnt that not canon

[bronze plover]

Your deny has been denied

[scenic olive]

ok but technically terrarian lore is up to you

[deft vessel]

Nah he erases space-time upon his failure

[scenic olive]

so what if my terrarian is already an undead

[bronze plover]

"You're honor, my client pleads 'nuh uh'"

[split mortar]

Nah be a dragon so you can revive and not be undead

[bronze plover]

If the terrarian was a dragon, i think killing king slime would be a tiny bit easier

[split mortar]

Nah dragons varied wildly in strength

[scenic olive]

[bronze plover]

Yea but, it's king slime

[split mortar]

The next frame scal is a blur

[bronze plover]

Neither of those are draedon or the terrarian

[split mortar]

And dragons varied wildly

[split mortar]

Here’s draedon

[bronze plover]

And?

[languid badge]

this power is beyond me

[bronze plover]

If the terrarian is so strong, explain this:

Draedon train

[scenic olive]

draedon train

[deft vessel]

You make a strong argument

[scenic olive]

[languid badge]

I'll go "sure why not play this for a bit" and next thing I know its 13 hours a day for the next week and a half

[split mortar]

[bronze plover]

They should renane it "traindon"

[pliant ruin]

It's funnier if it's just called draedon

[bronze plover]

Yea

[random mulch]

reposting the funny man cause i'm proud of it and i can do what i want

[bronze plover]

😊

He looks friendly

[mighty zenith]

we're approaching asgore proportions

[scenic olive]

i was expecting guts when he hold the sword

then i realize yharim is hella big

[random mulch]

his sword in the pic is about as tall as calamitas

[deft vessel]

Big man

[scenic olive]

i was about to say im probably shorter than his sword

[split mortar]

Why didn’t yharim make part of the sword blade out of auric?

[random mulch]

would cause his opponent to launch away on contact instead of being cleaved in half

[deft vessel]

You know id be more offended in someone called me ”vertically challnged” instead of short

[scenic olive]

there should be a reason

terrarian also didnt make any blade out of auric

[scenic olive]

cause that sounded a lot like a physical disability

[split mortar]

Zenith and altraxia litteraly use it in their craft yet don’t look like they do

Maybe aurics colour can be changed easily

[languid badge]

zenith uses auric for gameplay reasons I think

and ataraxia is a donor item so non cannon

[deft vessel]

Calamitys final battle will actually be agains Peta for all the innocent wildlife the Terrarian murdered

[split mortar]

They should go after scal and draedon first

[scenic olive]

i mean

[quartz pier]

Plague bringer dumbass dude

[deft vessel]

No cuz the Terrarian is more trendy

[scenic olive]

AoTC uses auric as the handle

[quartz pier]

Scissors of God cutting?

[split mortar]

Yes the god scissors

[scenic olive]

the God Cuttter

what a lame name

[deft vessel]

It’s too edgy

[scenic olive]

this is probably what Draedon think when we called Miracle matter a miracle

[split mortar]

And when we named destroyer destroyer

[scenic olive]

"Skeleton Prime"

[split mortar]

That one’s just lazy naming

[scenic olive]

[quartz pier]

What's all the gods in calamity?

[deft vessel]

Why is’nt it Skeletronator, the destroyer of reality

[quartz pier]

Like, there's many yes

[pliant ruin]

Alot, most of which we don't know

[quartz pier]

But what are say

Ah okay

[pliant ruin]

Like there were probably thousands of gods

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

We know like five gods by name

[quartz pier]

Is there a corruption, crimson, hallow gods? Idk brain is fried

[pliant ruin]

The only ones we actually know about are

[scenic olive]

just count the domain of all dragons

[pliant ruin]

yes

many actually

all those biomes are made of several gods

[deft vessel]

Theyare their corpses

[quartz pier]

Ah okie dokie

[split mortar]

Each one is hundreds of gods, hallowed being good the others bad

[quartz pier]

Ah okay

[pliant ruin]

But the only named gods we know of are
-Xeroc
-Silva
-Providence
-Otonilou
-Tyrian
-Slime God
-God of Sacrifices (Ravager)

[quartz pier]

I don't know if calamity lore has gotten more edgy or less edgy since 1.3

[tall delta]

and blood god

[deft vessel]

Would Noxus count techincally

[pliant ruin]

It has definitely gotten less edgy

[split mortar]

No

[pliant ruin]

also no

noxus isn't a god

[scenic olive]

not auric god

[split mortar]

It hasn’t absorbed a dragon soul

[languid badge]

does slime god have like an actual name or is it just "slime god"

[pliant ruin]

just slime god ::p

[deft vessel]

He should be given an honorary mention

[quartz pier]

Lol Okie. It's still edgy though lol. But much less than Calamitas was angry, Draedon was voted, Yharim was evil

[pliant ruin]

to be honest i don't understand when people call calamity lore edgy because i rly dont see anything edgy about it

like at all

[quartz pier]

Well I meant the 1.3 lore

[scenic olive]

my headcanon is that Noxus has the Auric Soul of Dark Nebula, he doesnt absorb it he just holds it and use it to create distortion

[pliant ruin]

like

does having any sort of mature elements just make a story edgy?

and even then, it's not like calamity is like. SUPER DARK EVIL!!!

like it's a story with some heavy elements but it's not even particularly dark or grim

[quartz pier]

It's more, over the top gore and violence for no reason

[pliant ruin]

Ehh?

It dosen't have either of those?

[split mortar]

They just see that it’s not a power fantasy or that it’s good most of the time and assume edgy

[quartz pier]

Which is what 1.3 lore WAS

I enjoy calamity lore

Alot

Dw

[pliant ruin]

Well i'm commenting more on current lore because

[quartz pier]

I'm on u side

[pliant ruin]

alot of people

like saying it's edgy

[scenic olive]

well at least John Wulfrum isnt canon

[split mortar]

Only over the top gore is Ravager and crimson

[pliant ruin]

which i just sit there like.... Nah?

[deft vessel]

Would watch a TV show of the lore

[pliant ruin]

Like

[split mortar]

Same

[pliant ruin]

Most of the media i like is significantly more dark in tone than calamity lol

[quartz pier]

Agreed

[pliant ruin]

and i wouldn't call any of them edgy

[quartz pier]

I would love calamity lore

[pliant ruin]

like... is evangelion edgy????

[quartz pier]

I wish I could know more lol

[pliant ruin]

😭

i mean chainsaw man is kind of edgy i'll let that one pass

[scenic olive]

its more of a power fantasy

[split mortar]

Just cause there’s more suffering then they’re used to don’t mean it’s edgy

[deft vessel]

One of calamity Canons is that the Terrarian fights with kitchen apliances

[split mortar]

Old lore def was

[pliant ruin]

calamity or evangelion or chainsaw man???

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

because neither of them are ill b fr 😭

evangelion in particular is like as far as you can get from a power fantasy brah

[split mortar]

And moonlord has a endless utensil supply from its rogue weapon

[pliant ruin]

shinji does NOT want power he just wants to be normal 😭

[deft vessel]

And F R Y I N G P A N

[scenic olive]

ok is madoka a power fantasy

[quartz pier]

[scenic olive]

if you say yes then no

[pliant ruin]

no???

madoka is literally

a psychological thriller

😭

anyways i forgot what i was saying before i just wanted to rant about my opinion on people saying calamity lore is edgy. this wasnt directed at you btw vivian

its just that you mentioned it and i felt like commenting about it as a whole

cuz ive seen alot of people do it and its . Annoying

[split mortar]

Yeah

[deft vessel]

Technically all of your Terrarian lore is Canon

[scenic olive]

my terrarian is a lore writer that writes their own lore

[split mortar]

Que the image

[scenic olive]

[scenic olive]

can you one up that

[sudden ruin]

did someone say chainsaw man

[pliant ruin]

i did!!!!

i love csm

[mighty zenith]

i didnt???

[pliant ruin]

4th or 3rd favorite anime iirc

[mighty zenith]

i hate csm

[sudden ruin]

read chainsaw man .,,,

life changing

[pliant ruin]

my top 5 goes like

1. madoka magica
2. evangelion
3. chainsaw guy or kill the kill depending on my mood
4. chainsaw guy or kill the kill depending on my mood
5. ummmm idk

[split mortar]

5 is calamity terraria

[deft vessel]

Ummmm idk is my fave

[pliant ruin]

so true

[sudden ruin]

kill la kill is hood

good

[pliant ruin]

IS HOOD

😭

[sudden ruin]

SHHH

[livid bobcat]

Ok question

How does the wall of flesh, the guide, and the spirits of light and dark releasing have to do with calamity lore

I know crimson, corruption and hallow were more a consequence of gods this time

[sudden ruin]

is madoka worth watching

[pliant ruin]

YOU JUST TURNED INTO A GANG MEMBER OUT OF NOWHERE CRYING

YES

its my favorite anime

ever

and also like

one of my 2 favorite works of writing as a whole

tied with limbus company (the game

[sudden ruin]

maybe ill check it out

[pliant ruin]

it genuinely heavily changed my life for the better

and also made me realize i liked girls

[deft vessel]

Wall of flesh is a big fleshy corpse dumpster

[sudden ruin]

lmao

[mighty zenith]

wall of flesh was made by azafure's mages to contain godly essence

[scenic olive]

is wall of flesh actually alive

[pliant ruin]

the guide guides you

[split mortar]

So yeah god dumpter

[mighty zenith]

the guide is irrelevant really

[pliant ruin]

i think the wall of flesh is like

[split mortar]

Yes, but not much

[pliant ruin]

organic but not necessarily alive

[livid bobcat]

Then why does killing the guide summon the wall in calamity

[mighty zenith]

and the spirits of light and dark refer to the hallow god essence and evil biome god essence1

[scenic olive]

what if you feed silva into Wall of Flesh

[livid bobcat]

Did he work for permafrost or something

[mighty zenith]

because gameplay

[deft vessel]

You can kill any npc

[split mortar]

Then she is contained

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

like it's essentially like a robot in that it just follows a "programming" except instead of being made of steel and wires it's made of flesh and bones and instead of being programmed through lines of code it's programmed through like, spells

[mighty zenith]

i heard the writers want that to be changed so you can sacrifice any npc

[pliant ruin]

that's what i like to think anyways

[deft vessel]

Know this couse i accidentally dropped 9 guide woodoo dolls

[scenic olive]

ok why havent Yharim done it

[split mortar]

I think wall may have reached full capacity with wof

[pliant ruin]

like i think wall of flesh isn't really alive as much as it's just basically a organic golem

[livid bobcat]

calling CPS on behalf of the angler

(You KNOW he would get picked)

[scenic olive]

why didnt yharim like

chop up silva into bits

[sudden ruin]

angler doesnt deserve this .,,,

[scenic olive]

and feed it into wall of flesh

[livid bobcat]

True

Fishing gang

[split mortar]

Oh fuck yeah

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

Angler

[pliant ruin]

angler is cool

i like fishing

and i like getting free bait

[mighty zenith]

i'd sacrifice golfer

cause fuck golf

[sudden ruin]

people who like fishing are automatically 50% cooler than those who dont

in terraria , ive never fish irl

[pliant ruin]

i'd sacrifice the tax collector

[split mortar]

Maybe wall being “alive” would mean she would not be hindered? Like she gets wall to just drop her off somewhere or something

[pliant ruin]

ive only done it once and it was a rly long time ago

but i want to again

[split mortar]

Isn’t he post wof

[pliant ruin]

coz i'm literally #1 fish girl

[scenic olive]

is the Golden Fishing rod actually a blessing from the God of Sacrifice

[pliant ruin]

well except lgl

so i guess i'm #2 fish girl

[scenic olive]

because you can sacrifice angler

[sudden ruin]

i was about to say

[scenic olive]

to the trasher

and get golden fishing rod

[pliant ruin]

lgl is literally a fish

meanwhile i just really love fish

we are two sides of the same coin

[sudden ruin]

catfish are my
favorite fish

[deft vessel]

Mustache

[pliant ruin]

my favortie fish is

idk

fish r cool...

[sudden ruin]

i love catfish they are so silly

[mighty zenith]

i cherish dumbo octopus

[sudden ruin]

whiskers and all

[pliant ruin]

marine biology college next year maybe ...

or university

whatever the right word is

the one where you study a specific thing instead of just general classes. yah that

[mighty zenith]

they are adorable lil squinglies

[sudden ruin]

maringe biology is highly popular in the lgbtq community i swear

[split mortar]

Didn’t know that

[sudden ruin]

i see it all the time

[scenic olive]

did someone say marine biology

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-ocean-man-jojo-dance-gif-14815629

[sudden ruin]

jojo ??

[deft vessel]

Jojo refrence?!

[mighty zenith]

that explains it

[scenic olive]

well he is a marine biologist

[mighty zenith]

jojo fans are 97% lgtbq+

[scenic olive]

[sudden ruin]

i dont think i could get into jojo

[scenic olive]

you dont need to get into jojo

[split mortar]

Bro the anime is just big buff men half the time ofcourse it would

[scenic olive]

because they will get into you instead

[sudden ruin]

baki??

[scenic olive]

[sudden ruin]

i love baki however .,,,

[mighty zenith]

baki fans are 103% lgbtq+

[pliant ruin]

gay people love fish ✅

[sudden ruin]

shit is so unserious

[scenic olive]

also

you cant hate jojo

[mighty zenith]

baki doesnt seem real

[sudden ruin]

i lvoe it

[scenic olive]

because

[pliant ruin]

i dont like baki

[scenic olive]

hating jojo is a jojo reference

[mighty zenith]

all clips of it i looked at were like fever dreams

[scenic olive]

[deft vessel]

Baki is goverment propaganda

[pliant ruin]

mainly because i think the artstyle is gross as hell and i cant bring myself to watch it because of that 😭

[mighty zenith]

i mean thats fair

[pliant ruin]

tho even if it wasnt i prob wouldnt watch it anyways because

it's not really my thing

[split mortar]

Ima look at a random Baki gif

[scenic olive]

YOU WATCHED MADOKA

[pliant ruin]

i dont like shonens

[mighty zenith]

its like
overexaggerated^2

[pliant ruin]

what does that have to do with anything

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/baki-baki-hanma-netflix-ogre-anime-gif-17317987594888449408

[scenic olive]

[mighty zenith]

its so fucking weird

[deft vessel]

No.

[pliant ruin]

the only anime i dislike is jujutsu kaisen and thats only because of spite and its mostly ironic i dont actually care about it butr the fans are annoying so i like saying i dont out of spite

(not all of them are annoying

(some are cool

(most are though

[scenic olive]

yea

i hate jjk

mainly because of the fans

and gojo meatrider

[mighty zenith]

i kinda wanna watch jjk because like
i got into jojo by disregarding the annoying-ass fandom

and i really like jojo

[split mortar]

I heard it’s manga is ending in like five chapters so th fans will calm down hopefully

[mighty zenith]

so same thing could happen with jjk

[scenic olive]

the series itself is good

wel

[mighty zenith]

wel

[scenic olive]

how come i type uuu twice and l just once

three

[deft vessel]

Dyslexia

[scenic olive]

you see my name was supposed to be Mokkuu

Mokku*

i kept accidentallly adding extra letters

[split mortar]

Supreme dyslexia

[split mortar]

[ruby heart]

4 chapters now

[warm gull]

jjk's fandom is unhinged

why

because of the fandom?

the memes?

kind of a bad take imo to let memes that people create about a piece of media dictate how you feel about the media itself

[lean crag]

JJK is awesome

[lean crag]

(Thanks for the reminderrrr it was peak 🙏)

[spring helm]

Guys I died to Calamitas again

[scenic olive]

Again

how could you die twice

did she revive you mid fight

[spring helm]

yes

she revived me so she could beat my ass twice in one boss fight

[warm gull]

!

‼️

[sleek halo]

the whole 5 chapters left thing seems so

rushed i mean it could be done well

just i also worry for the quality of it lol

[sleek halo]

animation is good and the manga art is also good

and fun choreography

[ruby heart]

I mean the sukuna fight ending in 4 chapters is good

Just wish we had some more post scenes

Not like a "sukuna is dead, the end"

[sleek halo]

yeah

[sleek halo]

that’s what i mean

that def needs to end soon

but everything else needs more time

but the shinjuku showdown gotta be over bruh

[stark basalt]

sukunma nuts

[thorny marlin]

is yharim a misunderstood villian

[split mortar]

Yeah people misunderstand that he is a villain

[true hatch]

Kinda?

From my understanding, he had noble intentions to begin with, but over time became just as bad as those he fought against

[thorny marlin]

💀

[split mortar]

His answer was genocide and killed good people and gods because he refused to accept anything to do with a god was good

Noble intentions but from the beggining was shit

Got worse

[true hatch]

No, it was more "How can the gods be good if they genocided an entire race for their power"

[thorny marlin]

since

not all dragons were good

[split mortar]

The entire hallowed which could be hundreds of good gods is well, good gods

Like yeah most gods were bad of a 2/3 ratio but you shouldn’t kill the hood aswell

[true hatch]

Also Yharim does acknowledge there are good Gods. He talks about one of the Astrum bosses (can't remember which one) being an "Innocent God" in the lore entry

[split mortar]

Good intentions but absolutely horrible way of doing it

[thorny marlin]

he's only saying that because astrum dues didn't cosume a auric soul

[split mortar]

That’s because deus isn’t a god

It’s not one that absorbed a auric soul

It’s just a random infected space worm

That people decided to add god to

[thorny marlin]

yharim also

hired child soldier

calmitias

[split mortar]

Yeah

[thorny marlin]

convinced her to burn entire sea

[true hatch]

I'm not trying to say Yharim was a good person lol

[thorny marlin]

and destroy things

[thorny marlin]

ik he sucks in the lore

the lore items are him trying to gaslight you

[true hatch]

Are they? It's possible he did realise how fucked up he got after even Yharon ditched his ass. And there are still unkilled Gods (Providence), so why would he have stopped if he truly still wanted to kill all the Gods?

[thorny marlin]

he stopped because everybody that helped him commit mass genocide left him

ie calamitias permafrost and draedon

[true hatch]

And stuff like the Plaguebringer Goliath lore implies he did have at least some compassion

Since Draedon corroborates that what he said is true

[spring helm]

oh yharim certainly knows that the stuff he did was fucked up

he doesnt care though

[split mortar]

When did yharon ditch him?

[true hatch]

Draedon didn't leave him, he told Draedon to go fuck himself after the whole Plaguebringer Goliath thing

[thorny marlin]

yeah

"you touch bees how dare you 😡 "

yharon would not ditch yharim 😭

[split mortar]

Because he wants us to go take the mantle as godseeker and kill them instead, why kill them when we can and he won’t have to lift a finger?

[split mortar]

Yeah yharon litteraly fights us to protect yharim

[true hatch]

I might be misinterpreting the Yharon lore drop, actually

[thorny marlin]

don't you kill providence before yharon tho

[true hatch]

Now that I think about it, it might be more of a "Yharon might come back, but by the time he's done we'll probably have killed Yharim"

[split mortar]

Yeah that all is about how yharon will revive in a few centuries long after yharim dies of old age or of us

They’re still best buds

Being dragon of rebirth yharon can auto revive unlike others which need yharon to be revived

[thorny marlin]

more like gay for each other 💀

[true hatch]

It was more "How the fuck could you force something to fight for you unwillingly"

[thorny marlin]

the biggest yharim simp is yharon

[true hatch]

Nah it's me smh /s

[split mortar]

Yeah, cause bad gods did that plenty so he views doing that is as bad as a god so his divinity racism hyper activated

[thorny marlin]

he hates slavery

and also

he loves bees

draedon tried to enslave a bee

you can put two and two together

[split mortar]

As long as you follow orders willingly he doesn’t care how old you are

[thorny marlin]

💀

[thorny marlin]

i'm pretty sure he manipulated calamitias into doing evil shit

[true hatch]

Wasn't it Permafrost who said "Hey we should take in Calamitas", it wasn't Yharims decision originally?

[split mortar]

He was still fine using her as a child soldier

We know he can get quite aggressive with what he dislikes

If he was against that then he would have not had her delete a sea

[true hatch]

No I don't think there was much manipulation.

Calamitas is kinda fucked in the head and almost as (was?) hyper racist against the gods as Yharim is

[split mortar]

Well yharim genuinely believes what he says so he might not consider it manipulation

[thorny marlin]

calamitias was still a child when yharim told her to delete a sea

[split mortar]

He genuinely believes dragons hood gods bad

[thorny marlin]

and help him detroy cities

[split mortar]

Yeah

[true hatch]

Yes I'm not denying that.

Though I think Calamitas was an adult when Azafure was destroyed?

[split mortar]

No she was like 13

She got her powers when azafure was destroyed

[true hatch]

Actually how old is Calamitas currently?

[split mortar]

Like 27 or 28

Two lore writers said around that age

[thorny marlin]

calamitas fights you because she doesn't want another yharim

[split mortar]

Yeah

[true hatch]

Yeah she expects you to kill her when the fight's over

[magic epoch]

i love how (most likely) deus, (potentially, with enough time) exo mechs, (with enough time) yharon, and scal are the only canonically refightable bosses

[split mortar]

Duke fishron and dragon folly are a species right?

[magic epoch]

it only takes like 100 years for a yharon refight

[magic epoch]

oh true

[split mortar]

700

[magic epoch]

maybe

[magic epoch]

i stand corrected

it only takes like 700 days for a yharon refight

[thorny marlin]

yeah

[true hatch]

I think the regular mechs are canonically refightable, since the lore implies that there's multiple of each one.

Dragonfolly is a species

Eye of Cthulu I'm pretty sure there are canonically multiple of as well

[split mortar]

700 years

[magic epoch]

imeant 700 years

wtf is my brain on

[thorny marlin]

more like 2 seconds when you touch yharim

[magic epoch]

(crack)

[split mortar]

Same with king slime and brain? And water since they’re just rando creatures or slimes mixing like normal

[thorny marlin]

hive mind and brain of cuthulu might be refightable

[split mortar]

Hivemind might not

It’s explicitly the biggest clump of god essence

[magic epoch]

potentially refightable

[split mortar]

Something else may take its place but not like hivemind I think

[true hatch]

Maybe

[split mortar]

Same thing with perforators

[true hatch]

Slime God is canonically refightable up until you kill Queen Slime, which is when you finally kill it for good

[thorny marlin]

yharon's not beating the looking like a nugget allegations

[split mortar]

Also Deus is strong enough to not truly die, so does that mean given enough time moonlord will just revive?

[thorny marlin]

his resprite is in animation hell rn

[split mortar]

Yeah

[true hatch]

Considering it didn't regenerate to its original strength over the 715 ish years between when the Auric Dragons broke it apart and when we finally killed it, I doubt it

[thorny marlin]

nah bro we kill moon lord

[split mortar]

We don’t know what dealing it did, maybe the sealing stopped its regen aswell we don’t know

[split mortar]

Same with deus yet they survived iirc

[thorny marlin]

isn't terraria in a mess because of yharim

[true hatch]

IDK the canon difficulty, but up to Revengeance it just splits in half, we kill one, and the other half leaves. It likely regenerated from that

[humble fog]

Deus doesn’t explode into fleshless bones

[magic epoch]

We do not kill deus

We free deus from the astral infection

One of two bosses we do not kill

[humble fog]

Canon is expert rev

[humble fog]

in theory

[thorny marlin]

rev+ in canon

[true hatch]

Yeah in that case we don't kill Austrum Deus, just half of it

[magic epoch]

❌

We don't kill deus at all

[true hatch]

We shank at least half of it in the fight

[magic epoch]

We don't kill deus period

[thorny marlin]

yharim's morals are fucked up

[magic epoch]

We free him from the astral infection

[thorny marlin]

he's trying to gaslight us bro

into doing his goals

[magic epoch]

It's just poorly translated in the game

[thorny marlin]

because yharim can't finish them

[true hatch]

Would be kinda funny if in the end Yharim isn't even gaslighting us lol

[humble fog]

At least it’s not his taxes

[thorny marlin]

😭

[magic epoch]

fandom draedon

[split mortar]

Yup

[thorny marlin]

he was the ruler he can't commit tax evasion

draedon does tho

[split mortar]

He was the one taxing others

[thorny marlin]

that's why he can build so much shit

[true hatch]

Unless the fight is like, a joke fight.

Considering his fight comes after everything else... he probably could have done everything we've done if he actually gave a shit to do it himself

[calm patio]

[humble fog]

Mutant on april 1st

[thorny marlin]

draedon has no concept of morals he would 100% commit tax evasion

yharim also said draedon's resources must me nearly infinte

[split mortar]

He has like 10 years left max, both providence and slime god flee and Ravager is basically just a strong zombie

He couldn’t kill them when the crusade was at the height so he prob thinks they’ll outrun him for the next 10 years

[true hatch]

Honestly it's likely that it isn't that Yharim can't have done the feats we've done, it's that he wants us to surpass him so that we can kill Xeroc for him

[sinful adder]

Draedon would both recognize the importance of taxes for a society and also see himself as above such a system.

[true hatch]

What makes you say he's only got 10 years left?

[split mortar]

He is close to dying of old age

Like very close

[true hatch]

Which is said... where?

[sinful adder]

by the devs

[split mortar]

Plenty of devs

[calm patio]

yharon takes a decade to rebirth

which by that time, yharim is going to be killed from u

[sinful adder]

he is 130 years old and only alive because of magic basically

[true hatch]

Damn, Decade and 700 years are vastly different numbers, and I've seen them both said here

[thorny marlin]

he's being hard harried by his armor

draedon is around 660 years old

what year does calamity take place in

[split mortar]

Late 1800s iirc

[true hatch]

What the fuck

[thorny marlin]

late 1800s in crazy for the technogly we have 😭

[sinful adder]

year count is not really comparable due to magic existing

[split mortar]

Yeah a lot of info is from devs since the lore isn’t fully in game

[true hatch]

Yeah let me just grab my 19th century handheld particle accelerator lol

[sinful adder]

draedon advanced technology by like a thousand years in just 500ish years

[split mortar]

Except for draedon and wulfrum I’m pretty sure azafure was in Industrial Revolution and is like the most advanced

[thorny marlin]

magic and technoglogy are basically comparble in calamity lore

[sinful adder]

yeah, kind of

[true hatch]

Year itself matters significantly less than a timeline of events

[split mortar]

Azafure a founding is on 0000

Moonlord happened not that long after1000

[thorny marlin]

late 1800s and terraria already has
robots
futuristic technogly
advanced magic