#lore-discussion

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warm gull
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Incorrect

pliant ruin
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shes a cat in spirit

warm gull
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Stop projecting yourself onto the game character !

pliant ruin
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dont call me out like that

warm gull
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Fine I'll call you out like this:

sudden ruin
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i am not a catgirl and i declare she might be a cat

warm gull
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cheese wants calamitas to be a cat because calamitas is a girlfailure with trauma and cheese wants the video game woman to be, and I quote, "literally me"

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And it's LIES

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Propaganda

sudden ruin
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okay well what if i sprite scal to have kitty meowmeow ears

warm gull
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I would drop napalm on your house

spring helm
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huwah

warm gull
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been spending most my life living in a yharim's paradise

wheat walrus
warm gull
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Sending you to the Soul Cairn for this

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Have fun with the Ideal Masters

wheat walrus
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whuh

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what's that

warm gull
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the feeble mind of a breton like yourself could never understand the necromantic secrets like a true dunmer

warm gull
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s'wit

wheat walrus
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my honest reaction

warm gull
wheat walrus
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that's literally zinogre

warm gull
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ark survival evolved magmasaur

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Magmasaur from ark evolved

wheat walrus
warm gull
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survival evovled even

pliant ruin
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fake and false fake and false fake and fa

spring helm
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calamitas cat

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i gave up adding more detail my mouse is broken

sudden ruin
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oh my goodness good jov

cosmic zenith
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Alright, now every creature in SSO has a Bestiary entry

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We just need to polish the entries now

sudden ruin
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awsome job :D

sudden ruin
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oh my goobness rainworld ?

cosmic zenith
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I couldn't have done it without CongratsIsTrash
Shayy hopped in on the action recently too

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Yep
There's actually two creatures directly referencing Rain World

sudden ruin
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thats so cool

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ive never played it but the ambience worldbuilding look awesoem ..

warm gull
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Music is good

sudden ruin
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the silly creatures too nothoughtsheadempty

cosmic zenith
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It's a really awesome game

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It's hard and unforgiving, but I enjoy it

warm gull
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I almost bought it the other day but went for hollow knight instead

cosmic zenith
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You just conquer it over time

warm gull
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And then my pc broke before I could play hollow knight boohoo

sudden ruin
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hollow knight is a good pick though :]

cosmic zenith
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Everything, from the lore, to the visuals, to the music, to the atmosphere... it's all just so good

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Yeah, HK is great!

sudden ruin
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i dont mind hard and unforgiving gameplay ..

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if its ultimately my fault as a player if i fail i will enjoy

cosmic zenith
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Then Rain World is the game for you!

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Welllllll

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In Rain World, there are tools to deal with practically any situation dynamically

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But when you start out, you don't really know what the tools are and how to use them

sudden ruin
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i enjoy learning DazzledSakuya

cosmic zenith
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You have to learn yourself how to use the stuff around you to get by
And to me, that's really satisfying

warm gull
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My experience with rain world is the one video that markiplier made on it and the music

cosmic zenith
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Especially when you overcome an obstacle that gave you a lot of trouble

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Or when you master something to the point where it makes stuff a whole lot easier

earnest flare
warm gull
cosmic zenith
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You speak of Shayy, but actually I almost snuck an Undertale reference into Draetalk

earnest flare
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oh yeah stip did you know that xeroc almost directly quotes undyne the undying

sudden ruin
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what

cosmic zenith
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That being your only experience with the game is a bit sad, though yeah the music is amazing

cosmic zenith
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Power not enough, blah blah blah

sudden ruin
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yeah shayy did undertale content ages ago right

earnest flare
sudden ruin
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i feel line i remember watching them

earnest flare
cosmic zenith
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^

sudden ruin
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thats cool

warm gull
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I almost watched a shayy video once

sudden ruin
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i just think i remember watching them like years and years ago lol

warm gull
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Not really into undertale anymore tho

sudden ruin
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i love deltarune..

warm gull
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I'll still watch jacksepticeye when he plays the new delta chapters tho

sudden ruin
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that game is very ncie

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i used to speedrun deltarune on my switch for no reason wires

earnest flare
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with this most recent newsletter ive had to block the word "deltarune" from every youtube video shown to me to avoid spoilers because ive never been awake when deltarune chapters release

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and id hate to wake up and see "deltarune chapters 3 & 4 all bosses" with the final boss in the thumbnail

sudden ruin
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i dont think its soon yet

sudden ruin
earnest flare
warm gull
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It's weird but spoilers for anything has never made my experience of actually playing/seeing it worse

sudden ruin
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yes 5

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i swear

earnest flare
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have you read the past newsletters

sudden ruin
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whar

warm gull
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no

sudden ruin
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they used to say 5

earnest flare
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launch was split into just 3 & 4

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5 is on its own

sudden ruin
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ohg man

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well thats still awesome

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is 5 gonna be paired with 6

earnest flare
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no confirmation

warm gull
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The beginning soundtrack for chaper 2 when you first go into the cyberworld is so good

sudden ruin
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that seems logical

earnest flare
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atm 5, 6, and 7 are all seperate

sudden ruin
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deltarune is just so good

warm gull
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Wait there's gonna be 7 chapters

sudden ruin
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how many chapters? 8?

earnest flare
warm gull
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I thought it was just 5

sudden ruin
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7

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gotcha

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nope

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thats why im very happy deltarune is a thing

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so much content

sudden ruin
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omg thats epik

visual kiln
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j\

sudden ruin
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this better not be /j

warm gull
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cryptic message

earnest flare
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golden critter lore go

warm gull
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You're gold now. That's my attack.

sinful adder
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What are the rain world references?

magic epoch
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Ascendant insignia is all I know

glossy wolf
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So if Calamitas hates Yharim, does she also hate Yharon, his loyal companion?

warm gull
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I don't think that she is ever stayed to have expressed any particular feelings towards yharon but presumably yes

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The 2 are basically one

split mortar
magic epoch
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yharin yharom

random mulch
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yhar har

scenic olive
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Pirate yharim

woeful patio
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damn Yharim refused to be the King of Pirate when offeredPensiveCore

cosmic zenith
sinful adder
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Oh sick

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Wait, why the fuck was yharim's insignia of all things replaced with this?

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The wiki says it's a rework, but it's a completely different item in every way

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Except for the sprite having a vague resemblance to the old one

cosmic zenith
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I don't entirely remember it
I think the idea was to change Yharim's Insignia into a mobility accessory

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And then it got rethemed, and became a Soaring Insignia upgrade

hoary berry
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i'm glad yharim's insignia got changed
it was such a boring accessory imo

real silo
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Melee damage accessory

mighty zenith
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dull stat stick

sinful adder
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I agree that it is good, but the "rework" is a completely different item

real silo
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meh

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Not that big of a downside

sinful adder
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It is not a downside except for the fact that you're basically just complicating the wiki by making it the same item instead of a complete new one

real silo
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yea

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it also didn't make sense that yharim (#1 god hater) would have his insignia made out of providence (god) materials

sinful adder
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Yharim's insignia dates back to super old calamity, before divine geodes existed

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Possibly back when Yharon was the final boss?

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The wiki is missing the information about the old one

untold oracle
sinful adder
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Headcanon: Yharon's previous deaths have infused the world with auric rebirth power, and some people's souls caught pieces of that power in their souls and have the rain world cycle system or something

celest kettle
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Headcanon: slugcats exists

split mortar
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Slug cat pet wheb

sinful adder
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Aquatic slug cats should live in the sunken sea

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I'm going insane due to lack of significant calamity mod contents updates

real silo
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This is truly a calamity

woeful patio
sinful adder
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More like day 500

untold oracle
split mortar
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Seems more like a battalion there

hushed geyser
cloud ibex
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can't be fucked to actually edit in the text just imagine this with the caption "577 days no terraria"

spring helm
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damn we had the same idea

earnest flare
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ok but counterpoint

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100 days terrar-💥

hushed geyser
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100 days of terraria would kill me

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Classic image

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Anyways I hate lore bye

north wigeon
mighty zenith
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how does this fit into the lobre

magic epoch
spring helm
hushed geyser
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Okay but

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I HATE lore

spring helm
hushed geyser
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Evil metvox loves lore

hoary berry
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Lore is awesome

orchid plank
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it really is

split mortar
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We don’t even discuss lore half the time

hoary berry
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that's the beauty of it

spring helm
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that's because we're waiting for more lore

thorny marlin
mighty zenith
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sans

scenic olive
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hate

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or love lore

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nah

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i am lore itself

orchid plank
spring helm
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please no

scenic olive
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the only AI thats accepted here is Draedon

earnest flare
split mortar
mighty zenith
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it spawned into existence

earnest flare
mighty zenith
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fake image

umbral forge
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I can't stop the thought of draedon eventually getting so good at making machines he at some point begins straight up making living animals from pure nothing and eventually just become god himself. Lore nerds, would he if he was able to?

pliant ruin
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this image was made in hell

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Eventually ™️ yeah

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With Eventually ™️ being any given time in the future, likely millions of years, but yeah

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he could

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as long as he dosen't somehow die before then whcih seems extremely unlikely

split mortar
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If there was a gain to science by doing that yeah

mighty zenith
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something something batman with prep time

umbral forge
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I mean, yeah

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They both have access to technology and ingenuity others in their universe can't even ever dream of having

split mortar
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Except draedon is acknowledged as super duper hyper intelligent, and the time frames for him are much longer then Batman with like a year beating a superman immune to kryptonite or something

pliant ruin
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Batman turns into god that one time

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superhero comics r so funny because due to the massive variety of writers that have wrote different stories for the same character they're incredibly incosistent

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you could have batman with a really well written amazing comic on one hand

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and batman who laughs on the other

umbral forge
pliant ruin
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unless batman turns into a god

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which he has done

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for some reason

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atleast twice

umbral forge
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Doubt he'd want to

pliant ruin
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I mean he did it

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We love superhero comics being widely incosistent

umbral forge
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Only because comics are weird and desperate for any plot

pliant ruin
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it's like a coin flip if they are Genuinely Good or Slop

umbral forge
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Yeah

earnest flare
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comics when i fucking kill them

mighty zenith
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sans ** **

umbral forge
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Comics when I fucking grill them

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Grilling for the win

pliant ruin
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invincible single handedly carrying modern superhero media

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(it is actually incredibly well written and just. Good

lean crag
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I LOVE INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!!

warm gull
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I watched it all the way through the other day

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And the boys

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went on a superhero spree

pliant ruin
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never watched the boys but ik the comics are kind of slop

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but the show itself is like

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a major improvement supposedly

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invincible's show is also a improvement tbh but the comics were already good

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but the show is just

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chefs kiss

warm gull
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The boys show is amazing

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I didn't want to watch it because if the gore and violence but like

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It wasn't as constant as I thought it was gonna be

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And they don't just kill off main characters like flies like game of thrones does

pliant ruin
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yeah that's how i felt abt invincible

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i might watch the boys, i'm sure it's good but also the autism is powerful

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can't bring myself to watch new stuff i'm not familiar with for the life of me 💔

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it takes Strenght

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Specially a live action show since my preference is generally animated stuff

warm gull
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how diabolical

vocal spire
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would the strongest material in calamity lore be considered shadowspec bars?

warm gull
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Shadowspec bars aren't canon

vocal spire
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exo prism?

warm gull
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exo prism is less a material and more of a piece of circuitry

vocal spire
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cool

warm gull
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Apparently draedon used cosmilite in his creation of exo plating

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So it's an alloy

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And the prism inside of exo prisms are infinite energy sources

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afaik, auric might be the strongest individual material

sudden ruin
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maybe that or mitacle matter?

warm gull
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Oh yeah forgot about miracle matter

spring helm
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auric's biggest advantage is the rejection, outside of that i would still rank it higher (as seen with auric tesla armour vs godslayer armour) but not by a large margin

pliant ruin
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miracle matter and auric are the two strongest canon materials in calamity atm

split mortar
pliant ruin
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there's also calamitas's uhm. drop. the ash thingy. that one has like literally no lore rn and i'm not sure if it'll get any lore or if it'll remain just Haha funny Crafting Material but given we're getting demonshade armor as liek, Actual Canon Armor and not postgame dev item stuff

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maybe?

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Like right now it's just a videogame crafting material moment

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but i wonder if it'll maybe get like

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actual lore

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maybe it's a form of like. special ash ingredient thing calamitas makes using a specific ritual and w/e and she gives it to you

split mortar
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I thought it was like, condensed solid magic of the fight with her, like fire making soot her annihilation flames made ashes of annihilation

pliant ruin
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could also be taht actually yeah

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like ashjes that got burnt with overwhelming amounts of brimstone magic

spring helm
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magical ash

fallow ingot
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Ya know

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I don't understand reddit at all

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What are they even trying to say with this

calm patio
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draedon being gabriel

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since gianni voice acted draedon before

split mortar
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I can only hope they’re joking

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And doing a satire

spring helm
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probably

winged sand
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(this is a reference to the story "the last question")

spring helm
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it's a reference???!!!?!??

glossy wolf
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Is the plaguebringer Goliath queen bee but just really mutated?

winged sand
# winged sand (this is a reference to the story "the last question")

the story is that generations of humans make this computer called AC and keep asking it how to reverse entropy, but it hasn't collected enough data yet. it isn't able to solve the question until the end of the universe, at that point it decides to demonstrate it by basically rennacting the book of genesis, restarting the universe

pliant ruin
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and also infected by the plague

hushed geyser
spring helm
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even after all the information was collected it still took an eternity processing the knowledge to do it

split mortar
earnest flare
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whos been going around spray painting the local critters golden

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its actually quite rude to turn innocent people gold

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ever heard of midas

spring helm
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he's got The Touch

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ain't got The Power though

wooden kayak
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How the heck did Providence and co. kill a dragon, especially before Her ascension? What dragon did they kill, a baby one?

pliant ruin
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i mean

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all gods killed dragons

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so

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no not a baby one a fully grown adult powerful dragon

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several characters in the mod's lore are by all means just normal ass people who are really strong and could kill dragons

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yharim, calamitas, permafrost, statis, braelor, literally You to name a few

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so it's not really

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too ridiculous that plenty of people managed to kill dragons to ascend

solar wharf
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magic was still a thing man

pliant ruin
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yeah like . Magic and also Big Fucking Swords

solar wharf
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working together also works

pliant ruin
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and Working Togther also yes

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and Big Fucking Guns

solar wharf
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i'd assume guns didnt exist back 800 years

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maybe later on in the war?

pliant ruin
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Actually good point

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Maybe like

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primitive ones

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i dunno

solar wharf
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ye

pliant ruin
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ik azafure was sort fo the catalyst for the industrial revolution in-universe

solar wharf
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i'd assume primitive ones would be pretty bad tho

pliant ruin
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so at some point they probably started making like

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things comparable to irl flintlock guns and blunderbusses and stuff like that

wooden kayak
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They just seem too weak to kill one.
Then again, I'm going off Yharon, who is the second strongest dragon to exist, so we don't know what a normal, garden variety dragon is like.

pliant ruin
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and then draedon came in and just went "lol" and started the Industrial Revolution but Again and gave the yharmy fucking. i dont know laser beam of death gun

solar wharf
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maybe magical guns existed, til it reached a point where gunpowder were cheaper, manaless and while still releasing a similar output, much easier to just give it to a guy and say "this crosshair? yea whatever infront of it dies" rather than "you need mana stars, learn spells, tomes etc"

pliant ruin
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we do

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average dragons have been stated to have been about as strong as eidolon wyrms

pliant ruin
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I mean it's really damn strong

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keep in mind eidolon wyrms are a post ml miniboss

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it's just that

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the terrarian is stronger

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but then again

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you're

wooden kayak
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Point taken

solar wharf
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the average human probably was between mid PRE-HM tbf

pliant ruin
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the terrarian

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like, providence per example was one of the absolute strongest gods beyond some others like xeroc and silva

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she was literally one of the most powerful beings on the entire world atp we play

solar wharf
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if the average human was anywhere near as strong as the terrarain then it wouldnt make sense to worship gods

pliant ruin
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and the terrarian fights her as like

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one of the first post ml bosses

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like the terrarian really is just insanely cracked

wooden kayak
pliant ruin
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beyond some others like xeroc and silva

calm patio
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thats a game mechanic

pliant ruin
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no they have a good point tbh

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I doubt provi was stronger than silva lol

wooden kayak
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The lore item says "yet she reigned as one of the mightiest Gods."
So maybe?

calm patio
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well, silva is the godess of life

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you cant kill her

solar wharf
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providence is strong, cheese meant beyond as in not counting xeroc and silva

pliant ruin
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the fact silva items, which are obviously derived from silva, are obtained after devourer of gods, would naturally lead one to believe silva is stronger than the devourer of gods

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and we do know silva is a strong god, so it's

wooden kayak
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Beyond in that context definitely meant stronger than

pliant ruin
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a reasonable conclusion

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no it didn't

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it meant what duck said lol

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i didn't even think anyone had read it as anything other than that

solar wharf
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beyond was a confusing word to use there as it wasnt an explict statement but it can mean that

wooden kayak
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"Strongest gods beyond some others like Xeroc and Silva"
It just looks like you missed a comma between Gods and beyond

pliant ruin
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i think i wanted to use besides but i ended up using beyond instead because my brain works in ways

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which i mean

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it works

solar wharf
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beyond can work and i have seen it being used the way cheese used it, its just a word that can have other interperations and wasnt explict

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so rope god confused it lol

wooden kayak
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Seeing Providence's attack pattern would make you think she was a sentient turkey, not a goddess

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Unremarkable, if I must say.

pliant ruin
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dosen't she like

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throw giant fireballs at you

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idk that seems pretty. godly.

calm patio
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yea

real silo
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not to mention turning you to dust if you go too far

wooden kayak
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She throws like 50 billion little fireballs at you, not the Overwhelming power a god should have

real silo
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Though that might just be gameplay

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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slime god is also a god

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god in this context dosen't mean like

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omnipotent entity

wooden kayak
pliant ruin
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and all things considered

solar wharf
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that

pliant ruin
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not debatable

solar wharf
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isnt debatable

pliant ruin
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he literally is a god

solar wharf
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thats an objective truth

pliant ruin
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like providence throws giant fireballs and crystals and whatever at you thats pretty godly all things considered

solar wharf
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calamity gods have nowhere near the same definition as one we have irl

calm patio
pliant ruin
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if you want a god that does more then

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well

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xeroc. lol.

wooden kayak
pliant ruin
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and even then he's not. like. omnipotent

solar wharf
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god JUST means a being that absorbed an auric soul, not one thats powerful

calm patio
wooden kayak
calm patio
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gods are subjective

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in the lore doc..

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in the pins

pliant ruin
calm patio
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slow today

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tired

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what i meant to say its alot different than other things

solar wharf
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that imo doesnt fit my definition of god

pliant ruin
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i mean ye it varies from culture to culture and religion to religion and etc

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but i thought it was in the context of cal

wooden kayak
# calm patio

I gotta read that document before I start yapping again

real silo
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God has only one definition in cal and "a strong being" is not the definition

sly bloom
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^

solar wharf
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i'd assume they have something along the lines of platinum armor

frozen zodiac
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honestly i'd be scared of blood moons if the one place i can rely on being safe, home, was in danger of being broken into by empowered zombies

sly bloom
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Just put a lamp in front of the door

frozen zodiac
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can zombies only open doors in

sly bloom
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Yeah

frozen zodiac
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dang

sly bloom
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Putting furniture in front of a door just prevents them from breaking in

warm gull
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I always do thar

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usually a banner or smth

frozen zodiac
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but what about enemies that phase through walls

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you cant just lock yourself in because the reaper is coming

warm gull
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Just go up a couple of floors

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They can fly but they don't fly vertically up in open air

frozen zodiac
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Mothron would be a complete jumpscare because it's so big i'd expect it to break through walls and it just doesn't do that ingame to not ruin builds during the eclipse invasion

pliant ruin
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i doubt mothron would be able to big through like

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actually well built houses

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maybe rustic/primitive wooden ones and stuff yeah but

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i cannot see the big moth breaking a house made of like, cements and bricks with actual good infrastructure

warm gull
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video gmae moth can phase throufh walls

scenic olive
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Could you eat mothron

spring helm
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Yes

warm gull
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I could eat mothron yes

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you? debatable

visual kiln
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p

woeful patio
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Mothron

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Yummers

warm gull
random mulch
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yharm

sinful adder
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The pirate should have a joke about yharim and yhar har

bleak escarp
# calm patio gods are subjective

While I’m 9hours late to this conversation a god is just a worshiped deity, if I made religion claiming I was god and gained followers I could be a god, albeit the god of deceit but still a god.

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In a sense

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Gods are subject to what we mortals think of them as

hoary berry
bleak escarp
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Yes

hoary berry
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beings who consumed an auric soul

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i don't see how worship could ever make you a god in this sense

bleak escarp
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Yep but in general outside of that

hoary berry
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oh i thought you were talking about cal
i should probably wait till i wake up properly to be talking about this stuff

grim harness
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I like how draedon's theme showing up in catastrophes before the calamity foreshadows the exo mechs

woeful patio
scenic olive
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Draedon is caked up in my image

autumn mirage
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Lore accurate yharim

real silo
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It foreshadows both scal and exo mechs

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If you listen closely during the draedon motif part you can hear one of the sbc motifs playing

scenic olive
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Calm before Calamity 🔥

random mulch
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the calm before the storms before the catastrophes before the calamities

split mortar
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Before the yharm

random mulch
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the yharamities

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death

mighty zenith
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killing people

wheat walrus
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a

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I recalculated the feat from Calamitas

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this time far more accurately

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Redoing the SCal Ilmeris-Boiling calculation since I think I can do it far more accurately, this time I found a more precise value for the "super-large salt-water aquifer" that was described to me by developers, as well as a more precise way to calc the energy values
Average surface area of super-large aquifers: 339150 km2 (339150000000 m2)
Depth of the boiling (as of dev statements): 375 meters
Average aquifer porosity: 0.2
Volume calc: 339150000000 x 375 x 0,2 = 25436250000000 m3
Average aquifer temperature: 2,75C
Average sea salinity: 3,5%
Density of saltwater at 2,75C and 3,5% salinity: 1002,831 kg/m3
Mass of the boiled ilmeran sea: 1002,831 x 25436250000000 = 25508260023750000 kg
Boiling point of saltwater: 101C
Temperature difference: 101 - 2,75 = 98,25C
Specific Heat Capacity of Water: 4184 J/kg/C
Energy to raise the 1kg of water by 98,25C: 4184 x 98,25 = 411078 J/kg
Latent Vaporization Heat of Water: 2264705 J/kg
Total Boiling energy per kg: 411078 + 2264705 = 2675783 Joules/Kg
Energy to boil the Ilmeran Sea: 2675783 x 25508260023750000 = 68254568531129846250000 Joules, or 16,31 Teratons, Country Level
As of dev statements, there were several air pockets and structures that lowered the amount of water, and according to them, this value could be cut down to half
Low end that assumes only 50% of this water was boiled: 34127284265564923125000 Joules, or 8,15 Teratons, still Country Level

TLDR:
Low End: 8,15 Teratons Country Level
High End: 16,31 Teratons Country Level

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this is probably the most accurate calculation I've done so far

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or one of them

mighty zenith
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holy text

wheat walrus
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this time it's not small country level anymore, but entirely country level

scenic olive
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Yeah id like more numbers in my text please

calm patio
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That is when you are wrong.

scenic olive
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What if you

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put all Terrarian that has ever been created

calm patio
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Draedon didnt made the murasama

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Sorry to break it to you

scenic olive
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and force them into a battle royale situation

calm patio
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And no. I saw that post before

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On reddit

split mortar
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Items that are references are not canon

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So sadly murasama not canon

sleek halo
cloud ibex
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i'm guessing it's largest Thing™️ the character could destroy

untold oracle
wheat walrus
untold oracle
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Like that amount of energy is comparable to a country

wheat walrus
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they were calculated based on some stuff

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like

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7 teratons being the minimum for standard country level is based on the yield of an explosion with the average surface level of every country irl

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so basically

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almost 700000 km2

sleek halo
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I suppose

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does the same apply even if it’s condensed

split mortar
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Yeah

sleek halo
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Second question

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when considering stuff like magic

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can you scale durability to the same level at all

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cause it’s not like a punch (depending on the magic) where you’d have to be able to take the same force

frozen zodiac
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i mean ingame dont damage over time debuffs ignore armor and just target your health

split mortar
sleek halo
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just fucking kill her

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if it ever hit her at that level

untold oracle
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Like she gets mental damage from that or smth

split mortar
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It’s almost a exact copy to brimstone elementals but on a higher strength level

frozen zodiac
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your mental fortitude is fading

untold oracle
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Fr

split mortar
untold oracle
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Somewhere it is mentioned she prefers to not use the magic since it damages her psyche

split mortar
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Dont think we have any other example of a normal person using brimstone magic the way she does to tell if it’s just her or it’s the magic

untold oracle
woeful patio
untold oracle
split mortar
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Yeah

frozen zodiac
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remind me is brimstone magic just painful in general or does prolonged use make you hear and see THE VOICES THE VOICES THEY LIVE IN THE WALLS THEY LIVE IN THE WALLS THEY'RE ALWAYS WATCHING THEY'RE ALWAYS WATCHING

untold oracle
split mortar
random mulch
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fresno nightcrawlers should become canon

sleek halo
wheat walrus
sleek halo
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Well I mean like

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Here

wheat walrus
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the first nuke detonated was 25 kilotons, that's town level attack potency

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well yes here it's not really attack potency

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since it was done over an extended period

sleek halo
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Fuga vs Hollowed purple

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Fuga is inherently more destructive but

wheat walrus
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excluding the yuki black hole and the infinite pressure sphere that is

sleek halo
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Yeah

wheat walrus
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aside from divine flame, there's jogo's meteor thing

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then ofc yuki's black hole and the perfect sphere but those are kinda outliers

sleek halo
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But I mean like HP just kinda just

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eats stuff

sleek halo
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in jjk

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Like literally just MBA but on crack

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Like that is truly the most trump card of trump cards in jjk

pliant ruin
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glorp

split mortar
sleek halo
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but like the only person who would be able to is sukuna with domain amplification lol

split mortar
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Pretty sure with domain amplification doesn’t it weaken or disable the technique? Pretty sure it would make hollow purple like a energy blast type thing instead which fits with him being burnt and all that from it

sleek halo
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but for gojos attacks it just weakens it

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at least for anyone in the verse lol

quartz pier
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So.. if calamity has lore

Is there anything special in the ice biome I can base my original character off of?

All I'm thinking of is cryogen

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For reference, I'm thinking of making an further evolution for a Glaceon, so I don't want "Just ice/cold" I want something else added to it

mighty zenith
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permafrost's creations

quartz pier
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Which is? I'm sorry I don't know lore

mighty zenith
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well, they're basically just constructs made through ice magic

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you could make the glaceon evolution be made of actual crystallized ice

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ice biome doesn't have much in calamity unfortunately

quartz pier
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Hmm, crystals, I think I can do something with that

random mulch
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there's also cryonic

mighty zenith
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yeah cryonic ore

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it looks like iced over glass but it's super durable

quartz pier
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Yeah hmm

mighty zenith
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this is kind of a stretch but the snow biome is implied to have been created/amplified by magic and there's a big connection between magic and stars in calamity

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so you could potentially do something with that

warm gull
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starlight river

random mulch
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especially the eventual cryonic stuff palette looks nice

quartz pier
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Hmmm

untold oracle
random mulch
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yeah but probably not soon

untold oracle
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Yeah

random mulch
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and maybe with another version of the armor

pliant ruin
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i rly like how the new cryonic stuff looks...

pliant ruin
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He's a very experienced wizard who used to work with yharim (the main villain) but left him after he realized he was a terrible person, with permafrost being someone who strives for peace

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Alot of the ice biome enemies are meant to be his creations gone rogue after he left

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Such as cryons and aurora spirits

sly geyser
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I need to know

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is the boss rush a canon thing

split mortar
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Yeah

sly geyser
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okay

split mortar
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It’s xeroc making illusions and giving them physicality with primordial light, hence why they’re also much stronger then normal except for Exo and scal

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Iirc

sly geyser
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makes sense

split mortar
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Also means not only did we have yharim stalking us we also had xeroc stalking us since he knew all the bosses we fight

sly geyser
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and was the rock some kind of gift for Xeroc? Maybe from Yharon

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wait Yharon or Yharim

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I always

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mix those guys up

split mortar
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It’s a piece of the dragons aerie he carved out when he ascended

sly geyser
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THE GUY 😭

split mortar
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Yharim is the human who talks to us in the lore items

sly geyser
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yep

split mortar
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Yharon is rebirth dragon

sly geyser
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Yharon is the dragon

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yeah

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I know who's who but I always mix their names up because of how similar they are

split mortar
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Yeah I used to do that

scenic olive
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Yharedron

spring helm
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alright that's all for me today lore channel

mighty zenith
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now draw them kissing

pliant ruin
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garbo don't say that :(

spring helm
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Cheese the Kiss Hater

sly geyser
sly geyser
mighty zenith
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incredible

sly geyser
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Just don't tell my gf I'm secretly banging Lord Yharim, The Jungle Tyrant

mighty zenith
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the who

random mulch
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the who HyperYharimJudge

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wide yharim

untold oracle
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Wyharim

spring helm
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widerim

scenic olive
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Wrim

wooden kayak
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Yharwide

frozen zodiac
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would draedon listen to me ramble about my favorite game

random mulch
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depends on if he's heard of it before

spring helm
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draedon would do it because it would give him insight as to how your mind functions

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and then he'd make a clone out of you using that data

frozen zodiac
spring helm
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Terrarian Prime

frozen zodiac
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what would calamity's civilization do if the terrarian appeared before yharim's crusade

hoary berry
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depends on your terrarian's lore

frozen zodiac
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new lore: yharim burnt down my vanity item shop and now i want revenge (while making back my collection)

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actually my terrarian would probably have a crisis post moon lord at their revenge turning into basically saving what's left of the world

hoary berry
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i also still need to name them because calling them "ritual OC" is not very helpful when trying to write notes that aren't a garbled mess

spring helm
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man im a moron

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i spent like 10 minutes making a "live draedon reaction" meme and when i go to save it
i already had one

frozen zodiac
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how fast do we actually find out about yharim if we only consider ingame items like the lore whispers

spring helm
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right away since one of the first items you get is the Awakening lore item

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unless you mean explicitly named

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then i think it would be with Amidias

frozen zodiac
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the calamity original npcs do mention him a few times but im curious at what stage of progression you'd figure out the real monster that he is

spring helm
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well that would depend on each person's reading comprehension

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for me, i picked up on it post-moon lord because i dont talk to the other npc's much

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Though i guess i should have clocked it immediately when he went "Permafrost is alive??!!??!!"

frozen zodiac
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"i lived bitch"

pliant ruin
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i like kissing

spring helm
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what's this then

sudden ruin
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homophobic cheese

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wait nvm

spring helm
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cheese is straight

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she has said it many times

pliant ruin
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yes i'm straight

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i love um men

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yup

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i'm really straight!

spring helm
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yeah we all love um men here

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wait no

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i like uh women

sudden ruin
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do not believe this for a SECOND

spring helm
wheat walrus
spring helm
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ya

sudden ruin
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how do you send gif. ...

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woaw

spring helm
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bwaa

sudden ruin
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woah

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i needs to draw calcat

hoary berry
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what name should i give to an OC i'm working on

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doesn't need to have some grand meaning

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just something androgynous

mighty zenith
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john

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john character

sudden ruin
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morgan maybe

hoary berry
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okay in the period of one hour i've added two more potential names

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i'm such a productive human being

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i also can't spell apparently

sly geyser
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Got a question

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is "The Roar of the Jungle Dragon" canon

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I mean, the lyrics

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and if they are, I'd like to hear an analyzis

warm gull
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yeah they're canon

pliant ruin
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They are canon yes

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but they weren't exactly

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made for the new lore

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They can be interpreted in a way that fits it though

sly geyser
pliant ruin
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Mhm

sly geyser
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But I was wondering

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because they're fire

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and I love analyzing songs lmao

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but honestly I can't really put them together

pliant ruin
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Well

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Yharon knows that Yharim's gonna lose his fight to the terrarian

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And well

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To be honest

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Yharim also knows that

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So he's basically going "ay homie, r you sure you wanna die for this cause? i mean i respect it i'll still fight for you if you do but i wanna make sure you're sure of that first"

sly geyser
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I see I see

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also (sorry for all those questions, but I'm super fixated on Calamity currently and I'm still getting into lore)
Why do exactly Yharim wants too fight Terraria and vice versa
Like, Yharim speaks to us trought the whole game, it just makes a bit no sense to me

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From what I can tell, Yharim realized his mistakes

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so why do we need to fight him actually

pliant ruin
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Nah

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He didn't realize his mistakes

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Much the opposite actually

sly geyser
#

so why does he talk to us...

pliant ruin
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He's actively trying to manipulate us into being his sucessor, because he's well aware that he will die of old age before he can kill Xeroc

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He wants us to fight him for him to test if we are truly strong enough

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And he's willing to die for that

sly geyser
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Oooohhhhh

pliant ruin
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He very much

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does not regret his actions

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or most of them, anyways

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As shown by things such as the slime god lore whisper

sly geyser
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I thought he's like "ye I kinda fucked up, could you clean it up for me?"

pliant ruin
#

he not only still despises gods

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but is actively trying to get you to kill them

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Yharim does not think he's a bad person, he just thinks he's a hero that failed his heroic mission, and that's why he's seemingly so depressed

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  • All of his allies left him
sly geyser
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no wonder

pliant ruin
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(Usually because of the fact he's a terrible person)

sly geyser
pliant ruin
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Yharon's the only one that sticks by his side till the end

sly geyser
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I've read all the backstory lore, like the draconic war etc etc, but I don't really understand in-game lore that much

pliant ruin
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which makes sense, given the two of them were the ''founders" of the crusade

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and are also kind of best friends

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who share more or less the same ideology

sly geyser
cloud ibex
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not really

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yharon is more like his only friend

pliant ruin
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Yeah he's not really a pet

sly geyser
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a pet can be your only friend

pliant ruin
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Considering that Yharon is

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fully sapient

sly geyser
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why not tho

pliant ruin
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He's not an animal

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He's like

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a dude

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He's more of yharim's best friend than yharim's pet

cloud ibex
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yeah like yharon is just as sapient as yharim

sly geyser
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awh :((

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I wanted him to be his pet tho

cloud ibex
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in fact he might be smarter considering how long he has probably lived by technicality

pliant ruin
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Yeah honestly yharon is probably smarter

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He's like

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2 gorillion years old

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He can speak and everything

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He just dosen't speak to you because he don't like you

sly geyser
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at this point I think like every character in the lore is smarter than him

pliant ruin
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to be honest yeah

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yeah .

sly geyser
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Draedon for sure

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Calamitas too

pliant ruin
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yharim is a immensely intelligent strategist

sly geyser
#

Given the fact you said Yharon is smarter

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then yeah

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Permafrost probably too

pliant ruin
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but he's also got the emotional maturity of a angry cod player

cloud ibex
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draedon is a very high bar to clear

pliant ruin
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Like

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yharom is basically a dnd character with super high strenght, super high con, super high charisma, reasonably high dexterity and intelligence

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and then

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bellow average wisdom

sly geyser
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so the cod player would fit

pliant ruin
#

Like yharim is intelligent

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he's just not

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very

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emotionally intelligent

sly geyser
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He's got the knowledge but doesn't always use it lmao

pliant ruin
#

He's a amaszing strategist

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and by god

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he knows how to manipulate people

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but he also does things like freeing the PBG in a moment of anger and inadvertedly causing the plague, and doing the entirety of the crusade based entirely on his biased prejudicial hatred for all gods

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intelligent, emotionally immature

spring helm
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bro is senator armstrong
"At least I leave a worthy successor" type death

split mortar
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Yharon I can see why wanting to genocide gods may be more reasonable then yharim, since his friends and family and society were possibly from his perspective just killed and was reborn by a murder attempt where they tried to kill someone who refused to kill him

Still not good since after more then like a decade he still held his unreasonable hatred for absolutely everyone associated to divinity but his hatred is much more personal

split mortar
sly geyser
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I mean, I'd say that Yharon's hatred is pretty justified even to this day

split mortar
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Yeah

spring helm
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it's justifiable for yharon

spare pier
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Yharon's hatred is perfectly justified, but you don't answer genocide with more genocide

spring helm
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not as much for yharim

spring helm
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sympathetic backstory, but what you did was still fucked up

sly geyser
#

also, how many more bosses are we expected to get?

pliant ruin
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1

spring helm
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yharim

pliant ruin
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maybe 3

spring helm
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that's it

pliant ruin
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emphasis on the Maybe

spring helm
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maybe noxus and xeroc

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maybe

sly geyser
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wasn't Xeroc also supposed to be added?

split mortar
sly geyser
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Makes sense

zinc musk
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wait if Xeroc gets added to Calamity will Moon Lord's theme change?

split mortar
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Why would that happen?

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(Plus we don’t know)

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But why would xeroc being added change moonlord

cloud ibex
weary current
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What is Noxus role in the game if in the old lore he was xerocs greatest enemy?

split mortar
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Current lore Noxus (may not be its name anymore) is the boss of the devourer and may be the source of a theoretical hivemind in the distortion

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Not much known rn

weary current
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I extensively played the old game under dokuro, and as such have not fully immersed myself with the new lore.

split mortar
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It is the “threat to all of terraria” in the ceaseless void lore item

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If you want all the lore in one big read there is the doc in pins

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Though if you don’t I’m fine answering questions

weary current
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Will the player ever absorb yharons soul to become a god, be able to side with yharim to overthrow xerocs, or simply become a new faction altogether?

split mortar
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When we kill yharon that becomes an impossibility to absorb the soul, it requires a specific ritual that we don’t know

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Devs have said that yharim will be dead after the fight

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Xeroc is so above us in power we don’t kill him

weary current
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what is then the player's motivation?

split mortar
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Any other questions?

weary current
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Was the overhaul in response to Fandom vandalism?

split mortar
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The lore overhaul? Not to my knowledge

weary current
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Thanks.

split mortar
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No problem

solar wharf
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maybe hate for the people who did it

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it has been like an entire century

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a new generation is getting hatred for something they never did

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not talking about gods btw, yharon and yharim didnt just kill gods

proven cosmos
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I was looking at the lyrics of stained brutal calamity and had to ask, who’s the one that sent SCaL to kill us?

solar wharf
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herself

proven cosmos
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Btw I’m like trying to learn the lore of the mod lmao

solar wharf
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she saw us like

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killing basically anything that attacked us (depends on ur headcanon)

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and went like

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"last thing i want is another yharim"

proven cosmos
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Oh fair enough

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Alright ty

split mortar
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Yeah scals lyrics are outdated sadly

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Yharons ain’t though :)

spring helm
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the lore document if you havent read it already

proven cosmos
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Oh shit fr

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I’ll do that soon

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Ty

proven cosmos
sly geyser
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also

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why is Yharim okay with us killing Yharon

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unless he's not but he doesn't seem too bothered with it

split mortar
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He is affected but he k owe yharon will come back

spring helm
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Yharon left on his own volition

split mortar
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Since yharon is the only dragon who can self revive

spring helm
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Also yeah Yharon will redirect in like a decade

sly geyser
#

and why do we even fight with Yharon in the first place, from what I know Yharon decided to fight us on his own, but why since Yharim is basically guiding us

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this part makes no sense to me

weary current
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Why can we not just absorb his soul like any other dragon?

sly geyser
weary current
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I mean, we are not loyal to yharim?

spring helm
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"The enemy ascended beyond your control"
Yharim's been guiding us throughout the game so that we can surpass and succeed him.
Yharon thinks that once we get stronger than Yharim we'll just kill him and be done with it (correct).

languid badge
split mortar
split mortar
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And the profaned guardians each

sly geyser
weary current
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I know, but we could just throw it into the crafting tree and make divine armor.

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Or a ripper powerup

split mortar
sly geyser
#

I still don't understand why Yharon would fight us in the first place

spring helm
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he doesnt want us to kill yharim

sly geyser
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and how is he aware of the fact that we're going to

weary current
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To test us to be worthy of fighting the gods, since he knows he will be reincarnation, and to prevent others from absorb the soul.

languid badge
spring helm
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he's been watching us, like yharim has
they were both chilling in the dragon aerie together so im assuming they share the same tv

split mortar
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Devourer died to us who was related to yhar

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Mechs were parts of his army

spring helm
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we kinda kill everyone we fight so that's not a good look for when we go up against yharim

split mortar
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Yeah

sly geyser
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alright, makes sense

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thanks for the explaining

spring helm
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👍

sly geyser
#

so basically Yharim wants us to kill him but Yharon who's on the same side as Yharim, doesn't want us to kill him so he fights us to (maybe) stop us

split mortar
#

Yeah

sly geyser
#

Man, this lore is too much for my head

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yet I love it so much

split mortar
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And more will be added in major updates

sly geyser
#

Don't we already know pretty much everything besides the Xeroc, Distortion and Noxus stuff?

split mortar
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They plan on re doing boss dialogue cause lots is outdated

spring helm
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We don’t know how the Ilmeran civilization ran itself

split mortar
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And more npc dialogue

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And at some point re doing the vanilla bestiary so it’s cal lore accurate I think

spring helm
#

We don’t know what aerialite ore is and the ancient sky civilization

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The devs also want to rework the lore items so it’s not just an info dump after a boss fight

split mortar
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And maybe not yharim noticing us for killing a slightly big slime that like any above average warrior can kill

sly geyser
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I think that's what a "lore item" is supposed to be

cosmic zenith
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(There's a lot more to come)

bleak escarp
frozen zodiac
#

i was just having an idea of my terraria character banging their fist on the ground after a post moon lord boss fight and being horrified at what they've become

spring helm
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make them do a speech on a cliff at sunset while linkin park plays

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

He will be killed yeah

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It's been confirmed already

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Would be kind of wacky to get the main villain as a town npc

warm gull
#

yharim couldn't do anything as a town npc regardless

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he would probably just keep trying to kill you

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because he absolutely does not ever bend in his convictions

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that's like

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his whole problem

solar wharf
#

you could just add a spare option which will only end up in yharim saying "fuck no"

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but that feels uncesseray imo

calm patio
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spare him? nah im killing him

split mortar
spring helm
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yharim would absolutely pull a frieza and force you to kill him

cosmic zenith
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There you go

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He'll fight for his beliefs until the day he dies
Either you kill him, or deal with the consequences of him being the exact same

warm gull
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what if I put him in a chair and hypnotized with subliminal messaging flashes

spring helm
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pull a percy jackson, wipe his memories and see the kind of man he could have become had the whole "god-king incident" thing never happened

hushed geyser
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Pure willpower will reject it

scenic olive
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yharmnesia

ionic harness
spring helm
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he refuses to repent

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Man the image is a lot smaller than I thought it would be

wheat walrus
spring helm
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i thought the sunken sea was freshwater

wheat walrus
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to me, it was described as a saltwater aquifer

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keep in mind

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this math I just sent wasn't even originally made for SCal

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it was made for

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uhh

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fair enough

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god is bleeding

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man

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the guy whose theme is named

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"the vast ocean set ablaze"

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for a second there i thought he was spreading his legs and showing off the goods

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😔

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jokes aside the fact that this thing gradually boils sea through its sheer bodily heat is crazy

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and goes hard as fuck

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literal aura

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that's wack

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the lore in this game makes me want to write a fanfic so bad. i love the lore 😭 and i have so many headcanons abt my terrarian

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every time i see posts abt the lore im like a wild dog

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omni vs omni man

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this is me tempting you

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go write your fanfic

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LMAO

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i havent written one in like 10 years straight up...

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thats how potent this games lore is to me

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tomorrow that line will be "I haven't written one in like 0 days straight up..."

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😳

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As somebody with a want to make a calamity fanfic (but I’m busy with stupid shit), do it

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i need a cheerleader like u for all the stuff i want to do but cant seem to get myself to

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if you want to write a cal fanfic then go for it

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it's been done many times before

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hell even rebecca did it

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what if im cringe 😔

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i love this games story tho. its very fun

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there are so many people who are cringe

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the lore is probably what has made me so obsessed w cal lately :3

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cringe is just part of life when you're in a fandom

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i havent been in a fandom in ages..

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don't kill the part of yourself that's cringe, kill the part that cringes

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im plugging my fic to encourage you (for real not like im just doing it because i want more people to read it CalSmug )
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUwwYmdOPlmwobTI_lgqanvVvyTfXKwAqGSAb7NoSEI/edit?usp=drive_link

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oo biome blade lore interpretation

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yoink! thief

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i was gonna write this multi-chapter long arc of my terrarian slowly upgrading upgrading the biome blade throughout his journey until i realized

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that's gonna take like a year

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