#lore-discussion
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shes a cat in spirit
Stop projecting yourself onto the game character !
dont call me out like that
Fine I'll call you out like this:
i am not a catgirl and i declare she might be a cat
cheese wants calamitas to be a cat because calamitas is a girlfailure with trauma and cheese wants the video game woman to be, and I quote, "literally me"
And it's LIES
Propaganda
okay well what if i sprite scal to have kitty meowmeow ears
I would drop napalm on your house
huwah
been spending most my life living in a yharim's paradise
my honest and realistic reaction
the feeble mind of a breton like yourself could never understand the necromantic secrets like a true dunmer
s'wit
my honest reaction
ark magmasaur ark magmasaur
that's literally zinogre
my honest reaction
survival evovled even
fake and false
fake and false fake and false fake and fa
oh my goodness good jov
Alright, now every creature in SSO has a Bestiary entry
We just need to polish the entries now
awsome job :D
oh my goobness rainworld ?
I couldn't have done it without CongratsIsTrash
Shayy hopped in on the action recently too
Yep
There's actually two creatures directly referencing Rain World
Music is good
the silly creatures too 
I almost bought it the other day but went for hollow knight instead
You just conquer it over time
And then my pc broke before I could play hollow knight 
hollow knight is a good pick though :]
Everything, from the lore, to the visuals, to the music, to the atmosphere... it's all just so good
Yeah, HK is great!
i dont mind hard and unforgiving gameplay ..
if its ultimately my fault as a player if i fail i will enjoy
Then Rain World is the game for you!
Welllllll
In Rain World, there are tools to deal with practically any situation dynamically
But when you start out, you don't really know what the tools are and how to use them
i enjoy learning 
You have to learn yourself how to use the stuff around you to get by
And to me, that's really satisfying
My experience with rain world is the one video that markiplier made on it and the music
Especially when you overcome an obstacle that gave you a lot of trouble
Or when you master something to the point where it makes stuff a whole lot easier
Damn, that's sad
no undertale quote will slip by me
nah the music is good wym
You speak of Shayy, but actually I almost snuck an Undertale reference into Draetalk
oh yeah stip did you know that xeroc almost directly quotes undyne the undying
what
That being your only experience with the game is a bit sad, though yeah the music is amazing
I vaguely remember it
Power not enough, blah blah blah
yeah shayy did undertale content ages ago right
yeah
i feel line i remember watching them
still does
^
thats cool
I almost watched a shayy video once
i just think i remember watching them like years and years ago lol
Not really into undertale anymore tho
i love deltarune..
I'll still watch jacksepticeye when he plays the new delta chapters tho
with this most recent newsletter ive had to block the word "deltarune" from every youtube video shown to me to avoid spoilers because ive never been awake when deltarune chapters release
and id hate to wake up and see "deltarune chapters 3 & 4 all bosses" with the final boss in the thumbnail
i dont think its soon yet
chapters 3,4,and 5 will release same time ^_^
not 5
It's weird but spoilers for anything has never made my experience of actually playing/seeing it worse
have you read the past newsletters
whar
no
they used to say 5
no confirmation
The beginning soundtrack for chaper 2 when you first go into the cyberworld is so good
that seems logical
atm 5, 6, and 7 are all seperate
deltarune is just so good
Wait there's gonna be 7 chapters
how many chapters? 8?
7
I thought it was just 5
and an accessory!
omg thats epik
j\
this better not be /j
cryptic message
golden critter lore go
You're gold now. That's my attack.
What are the rain world references?
Ascendant insignia is all I know
So if Calamitas hates Yharim, does she also hate Yharon, his loyal companion?
I don't think that she is ever stayed to have expressed any particular feelings towards yharon but presumably yes
The 2 are basically one
Yeah they are
yharin yharom
yhar har
Pirate yharim
damn Yharim refused to be the King of Pirate when offered
Ascendant Insignia (an existing accessory), and two upcoming Sunken Sea mobs
Oh sick
Wait, why the fuck was yharim's insignia of all things replaced with this?
The wiki says it's a rework, but it's a completely different item in every way
Except for the sprite having a vague resemblance to the old one
I don't entirely remember it
I think the idea was to change Yharim's Insignia into a mobility accessory
And then it got rethemed, and became a Soaring Insignia upgrade
i'm glad yharim's insignia got changed
it was such a boring accessory imo
Melee damage accessory
dull stat stick
I agree that it is good, but the "rework" is a completely different item
It is not a downside except for the fact that you're basically just complicating the wiki by making it the same item instead of a complete new one
yea
it also didn't make sense that yharim (#1 god hater) would have his insignia made out of providence (god) materials
Yharim's insignia dates back to super old calamity, before divine geodes existed
Possibly back when Yharon was the final boss?
The wiki is missing the information about the old one
Rraaahh I love rain worl!!!
Headcanon: Yharon's previous deaths have infused the world with auric rebirth power, and some people's souls caught pieces of that power in their souls and have the rain world cycle system or something
Headcanon: slugcats exists
Slug cat pet wheb
Aquatic slug cats should live in the sunken sea
I'm going insane due to lack of significant calamity mod contents updates
This is truly a calamity
More like day 500
When you kill enough scavs so they send a death squad at your location
Seems more like a battalion there
At that point I think you're more sane
can't be fucked to actually edit in the text just imagine this with the caption "577 days no terraria"
terraria font
0 days no terraria
how does this fit into the lobre
Sans remembers the crusades
Counterattack
Evil metvox loves lore
Lore is awesome
it really is
We don’t even discuss lore half the time
that's the beauty of it
that's because we're waiting for more lore
what is that
sans
We are gonna need a lore AI chat bot
please no
the only AI thats accepted here is Draedon
hey i made that
Don’t forget about the actual Exo mechs
yeah it spawned like this
fake image
I can't stop the thought of draedon eventually getting so good at making machines he at some point begins straight up making living animals from pure nothing and eventually just become god himself. Lore nerds, would he if he was able to?
this image was made in hell
Eventually ™️ yeah
With Eventually ™️ being any given time in the future, likely millions of years, but yeah
he could
as long as he dosen't somehow die before then whcih seems extremely unlikely
If there was a gain to science by doing that yeah
something something batman with prep time
I mean, yeah
They both have access to technology and ingenuity others in their universe can't even ever dream of having
Except draedon is acknowledged as super duper hyper intelligent, and the time frames for him are much longer then Batman with like a year beating a superman immune to kryptonite or something
Batman turns into god that one time
superhero comics r so funny because due to the massive variety of writers that have wrote different stories for the same character they're incredibly incosistent
you could have batman with a really well written amazing comic on one hand
and batman who laughs on the other
Yeah but draedon has more potential through that time. Give him a billion years he's gonna become a replacement to nature itself. Give Batman a billion years and all he's gonna transform into is a corpse
Doubt he'd want to
Only because comics are weird and desperate for any plot
it's like a coin flip if they are Genuinely Good or Slop
Yeah
comics when i fucking kill them
** **
invincible single handedly carrying modern superhero media
(it is actually incredibly well written and just. Good
I LOVE INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!!
I watched it all the way through the other day
And the boys
went on a superhero spree
never watched the boys but ik the comics are kind of slop
but the show itself is like
a major improvement supposedly
invincible's show is also a improvement tbh but the comics were already good
but the show is just
chefs kiss
The boys show is amazing
I didn't want to watch it because if the gore and violence but like
It wasn't as constant as I thought it was gonna be
And they don't just kill off main characters like flies like game of thrones does
yeah that's how i felt abt invincible
i might watch the boys, i'm sure it's good but also the autism is powerful
can't bring myself to watch new stuff i'm not familiar with for the life of me 💔
it takes Strenght
Specially a live action show since my preference is generally animated stuff
how diabolical
yummers
would the strongest material in calamity lore be considered shadowspec bars?
Shadowspec bars aren't canon
exo prism?
exo prism is less a material and more of a piece of circuitry
cool
Apparently draedon used cosmilite in his creation of exo plating
So it's an alloy
And the prism inside of exo prisms are infinite energy sources
afaik, auric might be the strongest individual material
maybe that or mitacle matter?
Oh yeah forgot about miracle matter
auric's biggest advantage is the rejection, outside of that i would still rank it higher (as seen with auric tesla armour vs godslayer armour) but not by a large margin
miracle matter and auric are the two strongest canon materials in calamity atm
It’s better then cosmolite in every way but physical flexibility, and rejection if I remember the dev statement correctly
there's also calamitas's uhm. drop. the ash thingy. that one has like literally no lore rn and i'm not sure if it'll get any lore or if it'll remain just Haha funny Crafting Material but given we're getting demonshade armor as liek, Actual Canon Armor and not postgame dev item stuff
maybe?
Like right now it's just a videogame crafting material moment
but i wonder if it'll maybe get like
actual lore
maybe it's a form of like. special ash ingredient thing calamitas makes using a specific ritual and w/e and she gives it to you
I thought it was like, condensed solid magic of the fight with her, like fire making soot her annihilation flames made ashes of annihilation
could also be taht actually yeah
like ashjes that got burnt with overwhelming amounts of brimstone magic
magical ash
Ya know
I don't understand reddit at all
What are they even trying to say with this
probably
at the end of the universe draedon learns how to reverse entropy and says "let there be light"
(this is a reference to the story "the last question")
it's a reference???!!!?!??
Is the plaguebringer Goliath queen bee but just really mutated?
the story is that generations of humans make this computer called AC and keep asking it how to reverse entropy, but it hasn't collected enough data yet. it isn't able to solve the question until the end of the universe, at that point it decides to demonstrate it by basically rennacting the book of genesis, restarting the universe
cyborg
and also infected by the plague
oh i remember that one
I thought you weren't doing it no more
even after all the information was collected it still took an eternity processing the knowledge to do it
Plague bringer Goliath is a queen bee infected by the nano plague, the plague making it mutated and all the things causing it to be different to a normal queen bee
whos been going around spray painting the local critters golden
its actually quite rude to turn innocent people gold
ever heard of midas
How the heck did Providence and co. kill a dragon, especially before Her ascension? What dragon did they kill, a baby one?
i mean
all gods killed dragons
so
no not a baby one a fully grown adult powerful dragon
several characters in the mod's lore are by all means just normal ass people who are really strong and could kill dragons
yharim, calamitas, permafrost, statis, braelor, literally You to name a few
so it's not really
too ridiculous that plenty of people managed to kill dragons to ascend
humans were NOT that much of frauds okay
magic was still a thing man
yeah like . Magic and also Big Fucking Swords
working together also works
ye
ik azafure was sort fo the catalyst for the industrial revolution in-universe
i'd assume primitive ones would be pretty bad tho
so at some point they probably started making like
things comparable to irl flintlock guns and blunderbusses and stuff like that
They just seem too weak to kill one.
Then again, I'm going off Yharon, who is the second strongest dragon to exist, so we don't know what a normal, garden variety dragon is like.
and then draedon came in and just went "lol" and started the Industrial Revolution but Again and gave the yharmy fucking. i dont know laser beam of death gun
maybe magical guns existed, til it reached a point where gunpowder were cheaper, manaless and while still releasing a similar output, much easier to just give it to a guy and say "this crosshair? yea whatever infront of it dies" rather than "you need mana stars, learn spells, tomes etc"
I mean
we do
average dragons have been stated to have been about as strong as eidolon wyrms
That's not very strong
I mean it's really damn strong
keep in mind eidolon wyrms are a post ml miniboss
it's just that
the terrarian is stronger
but then again
you're
Point taken
the average human probably was between mid PRE-HM tbf
the terrarian
like, providence per example was one of the absolute strongest gods beyond some others like xeroc and silva
she was literally one of the most powerful beings on the entire world atp we play
if the average human was anywhere near as strong as the terrarain then it wouldnt make sense to worship gods
and the terrarian fights her as like
one of the first post ml bosses
like the terrarian really is just insanely cracked
I don't think that's true... Stronger than Silva? Maybe, but unlikely, considering Silva armor is stronger than Tarragon.
Xeroc? No way.
armor doesnt prove anything
thats a game mechanic
The lore item says "yet she reigned as one of the mightiest Gods."
So maybe?
providence is strong, cheese meant beyond as in not counting xeroc and silva
the fact silva items, which are obviously derived from silva, are obtained after devourer of gods, would naturally lead one to believe silva is stronger than the devourer of gods
and we do know silva is a strong god, so it's
Beyond in that context definitely meant stronger than
a reasonable conclusion
no it didn't
it meant what duck said lol
i didn't even think anyone had read it as anything other than that
beyond was a confusing word to use there as it wasnt an explict statement but it can mean that
"Strongest gods beyond some others like Xeroc and Silva"
It just looks like you missed a comma between Gods and beyond
i think i wanted to use besides but i ended up using beyond instead because my brain works in ways
which i mean
it works
beyond can work and i have seen it being used the way cheese used it, its just a word that can have other interperations and wasnt explict
so rope god confused it lol
Seeing Providence's attack pattern would make you think she was a sentient turkey, not a goddess
Unremarkable, if I must say.
yea
not to mention turning you to dust if you go too far
She throws like 50 billion little fireballs at you, not the Overwhelming power a god should have
Though that might just be gameplay
i, but a mere moral for i cannot comprehend the humorous line or refernece that you, mighty one tried to form.
i mean
slime god is also a god
god in this context dosen't mean like
omnipotent entity
Debatable
and all things considered
that
not debatable
isnt debatable
he literally is a god
thats an objective truth
like providence throws giant fireballs and crystals and whatever at you thats pretty godly all things considered
calamity gods have nowhere near the same definition as one we have irl
slime god absorbed the dragon of gluttony
I've never heard that before
and even then he's not. like. omnipotent
god JUST means a being that absorbed an auric soul, not one thats powerful
its in the lore.
Where?
what that mean
my brain is
slow today
tired

what i meant to say its alot different than other things
i mean, that statement isnt entirely wrong, look at greek mythology
that imo doesnt fit my definition of god
i mean ye it varies from culture to culture and religion to religion and etc
but i thought it was in the context of cal
I gotta read that document before I start yapping again
God has only one definition in cal and "a strong being" is not the definition
The average human gets ganked by two zombies and a demon eye
^
i meant a soldier, military wise
i'd assume they have something along the lines of platinum armor
honestly i'd be scared of blood moons if the one place i can rely on being safe, home, was in danger of being broken into by empowered zombies
Just put a lamp in front of the door
can zombies only open doors in
Yeah
dang
Putting furniture in front of a door just prevents them from breaking in
but what about enemies that phase through walls
you cant just lock yourself in because the reaper is coming
Just go up a couple of floors
They can fly but they don't fly vertically up in open air
Mothron would be a complete jumpscare because it's so big i'd expect it to break through walls and it just doesn't do that ingame to not ruin builds during the eclipse invasion
i doubt mothron would be able to big through like
actually well built houses
maybe rustic/primitive wooden ones and stuff yeah but
i cannot see the big moth breaking a house made of like, cements and bricks with actual good infrastructure
video gmae moth can phase throufh walls
Could you eat mothron
Yes
p
irredeemably evil creature
yharm
The pirate should have a joke about yharim and yhar har
While I’m 9hours late to this conversation a god is just a worshiped deity, if I made religion claiming I was god and gained followers I could be a god, albeit the god of deceit but still a god.
In a sense
Gods are subject to what we mortals think of them as
in calamity, gods have a strict definition
Yes
beings who consumed an auric soul
i don't see how worship could ever make you a god in this sense
Yep but in general outside of that
oh i thought you were talking about cal
i should probably wait till i wake up properly to be talking about this stuff
I like how draedon's theme showing up in catastrophes before the calamity foreshadows the exo mechs
Didn't you already said that at https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/225030931008847874 
Draedon is caked up in my image
Lore accurate yharim
That's the point of the song
It foreshadows both scal and exo mechs
If you listen closely during the draedon motif part you can hear one of the sbc motifs playing
Calm before Calamity 🔥
the calm before the storms before the catastrophes before the calamities
Before the yharm
killing people
a
I recalculated the feat from Calamitas
this time far more accurately
Redoing the SCal Ilmeris-Boiling calculation since I think I can do it far more accurately, this time I found a more precise value for the "super-large salt-water aquifer" that was described to me by developers, as well as a more precise way to calc the energy values
Average surface area of super-large aquifers: 339150 km2 (339150000000 m2)
Depth of the boiling (as of dev statements): 375 meters
Average aquifer porosity: 0.2
Volume calc: 339150000000 x 375 x 0,2 = 25436250000000 m3
Average aquifer temperature: 2,75C
Average sea salinity: 3,5%
Density of saltwater at 2,75C and 3,5% salinity: 1002,831 kg/m3
Mass of the boiled ilmeran sea: 1002,831 x 25436250000000 = 25508260023750000 kg
Boiling point of saltwater: 101C
Temperature difference: 101 - 2,75 = 98,25C
Specific Heat Capacity of Water: 4184 J/kg/C
Energy to raise the 1kg of water by 98,25C: 4184 x 98,25 = 411078 J/kg
Latent Vaporization Heat of Water: 2264705 J/kg
Total Boiling energy per kg: 411078 + 2264705 = 2675783 Joules/Kg
Energy to boil the Ilmeran Sea: 2675783 x 25508260023750000 = 68254568531129846250000 Joules, or 16,31 Teratons, Country Level
As of dev statements, there were several air pockets and structures that lowered the amount of water, and according to them, this value could be cut down to half
Low end that assumes only 50% of this water was boiled: 34127284265564923125000 Joules, or 8,15 Teratons, still Country Level
TLDR:
Low End: 8,15 Teratons Country Level
High End: 16,31 Teratons Country Level
this is probably the most accurate calculation I've done so far
or one of them
holy text
this time it's not small country level anymore, but entirely country level
Yeah id like more numbers in my text please
That is when you are wrong.
and force them into a battle royale situation
Truly a calamitous feat
I still don’t entirely understand the level system
i'm guessing it's largest Thing™️ the character could destroy
I think it’s like in terms of energy output
it's about energy
Like that amount of energy is comparable to a country
they were calculated based on some stuff
like
7 teratons being the minimum for standard country level is based on the yield of an explosion with the average surface level of every country irl
so basically
almost 700000 km2
Yeah
Second question
when considering stuff like magic
can you scale durability to the same level at all
cause it’s not like a punch (depending on the magic) where you’d have to be able to take the same force
i mean ingame dont damage over time debuffs ignore armor and just target your health
Yeah
I think it depends on the fiction, like in calamity or terraria for the most part magic is more like a punch but the second part I think could be considered durability ignoring or something
I just think something like scals magic at this scale would
just fucking kill her
if it ever hit her at that level
Doesn’t Calamitas’ magic work differently?
Like she gets mental damage from that or smth
It’s almost a exact copy to brimstone elementals but on a higher strength level
your mental fortitude is fading
Fr
That could be considered another property of brimstone magic I’m pretty sure
Somewhere it is mentioned she prefers to not use the magic since it damages her psyche
Mentally damaged elemental
Dont think we have any other example of a normal person using brimstone magic the way she does to tell if it’s just her or it’s the magic
Depression elemental

I think she’s just built different or smth
Yeah
remind me is brimstone magic just painful in general or does prolonged use make you hear and see THE VOICES THE VOICES THEY LIVE IN THE WALLS THEY LIVE IN THE WALLS THEY'RE ALWAYS WATCHING THEY'RE ALWAYS WATCHING
Brimstone flames’ tooltip is smth like ”burning both body and mind”
Oh so it is just brimstone magic being brimstone magic when it comes to hurting scals psyche
fresno nightcrawlers should become canon
So if I’m assuming right, not about the actual attack potency and just the actual destructive/energy part of it right
energy output = attack potency
the first nuke detonated was 25 kilotons, that's town level attack potency
well yes here it's not really attack potency
since it was done over an extended period
divine flame has the second biggest energy calc for JJK iirc
excluding the yuki black hole and the infinite pressure sphere that is
Yeah
aside from divine flame, there's jogo's meteor thing
then ofc yuki's black hole and the perfect sphere but those are kinda outliers
Yuki’s blackhole is the funniest thing ever
in jjk
Like literally just MBA but on crack
Like that is truly the most trump card of trump cards in jjk
glorp
Pretty sure since hollow purple erases matter it doesn’t have an attack potency but instead is just said as a matter erasing attack that ignores durability or something
I think you can defend against it
but like the only person who would be able to is sukuna with domain amplification lol
Pretty sure with domain amplification doesn’t it weaken or disable the technique? Pretty sure it would make hollow purple like a energy blast type thing instead which fits with him being burnt and all that from it
yeah it weakens/disables
but for gojos attacks it just weakens it
at least for anyone in the verse lol
So.. if calamity has lore
Is there anything special in the ice biome I can base my original character off of?
All I'm thinking of is cryogen
For reference, I'm thinking of making an further evolution for a Glaceon, so I don't want "Just ice/cold" I want something else added to it
permafrost's creations
Which is? I'm sorry I don't know lore
well, they're basically just constructs made through ice magic
you could make the glaceon evolution be made of actual crystallized ice
ice biome doesn't have much in calamity unfortunately
Hmm, crystals, I think I can do something with that
there's also cryonic
Yeah hmm
this is kind of a stretch but the snow biome is implied to have been created/amplified by magic and there's a big connection between magic and stars in calamity
so you could potentially do something with that
starlight river
especially the eventual cryonic stuff palette looks nice
Hmmm
Is this for an upcoming update or?
yeah but probably not soon
Yeah
and maybe with another version of the armor
woah
i rly like how the new cryonic stuff looks...
For reference, permafrost (mentioned by garbo) is the archmage npc
He's a very experienced wizard who used to work with yharim (the main villain) but left him after he realized he was a terrible person, with permafrost being someone who strives for peace
Alot of the ice biome enemies are meant to be his creations gone rogue after he left
Such as cryons and aurora spirits
Yeah
It’s xeroc making illusions and giving them physicality with primordial light, hence why they’re also much stronger then normal except for Exo and scal
Iirc
makes sense
Also means not only did we have yharim stalking us we also had xeroc stalking us since he knew all the bosses we fight
and was the rock some kind of gift for Xeroc? Maybe from Yharon
wait Yharon or Yharim
I always
mix those guys up
It’s a piece of the dragons aerie he carved out when he ascended
THE GUY 😭
Yharim is the human who talks to us in the lore items
yep
Yharon is rebirth dragon
Yharon is the dragon
yeah
I know who's who but I always mix their names up because of how similar they are
Yeah I used to do that
Yharedron
now draw them kissing
garbo don't say that :(
Cheese the Kiss Hater
LMAO I LOVE THIS
me and my husband ig
incredible
Just don't tell my gf I'm secretly banging Lord Yharim, The Jungle Tyrant
the who
Wyharim
widerim
Wrim
Yharwide
would draedon listen to me ramble about my favorite game
depends on if he's heard of it before
draedon would do it because it would give him insight as to how your mind functions
and then he'd make a clone out of you using that data
autism vs autism EX
Terrarian Prime
what would calamity's civilization do if the terrarian appeared before yharim's crusade
depends on your terrarian's lore
new lore: yharim burnt down my vanity item shop and now i want revenge (while making back my collection)
actually my terrarian would probably have a crisis post moon lord at their revenge turning into basically saving what's left of the world
an OC i've been tinkering with a little recently was a follower of a god so they don't really like the crusade very much
i also still need to name them because calling them "ritual OC" is not very helpful when trying to write notes that aren't a garbled mess
man im a moron
i spent like 10 minutes making a "live draedon reaction" meme and when i go to save it
i already had one
how fast do we actually find out about yharim if we only consider ingame items like the lore whispers
right away since one of the first items you get is the Awakening lore item
unless you mean explicitly named
then i think it would be with Amidias
the calamity original npcs do mention him a few times but im curious at what stage of progression you'd figure out the real monster that he is
well that would depend on each person's reading comprehension
for me, i picked up on it post-moon lord because i dont talk to the other npc's much
Though i guess i should have clocked it immediately when he went "Permafrost is alive??!!??!!"
"i lived bitch"
what's this then
do not believe this for a SECOND
what do you know omni you're a child
na
ya
what name should i give to an OC i'm working on
doesn't need to have some grand meaning
just something androgynous
morgan maybe
okay in the period of one hour i've added two more potential names
i'm such a productive human being
i also can't spell apparently
Got a question
is "The Roar of the Jungle Dragon" canon
I mean, the lyrics
and if they are, I'd like to hear an analyzis
yeah they're canon
They are canon yes
but they weren't exactly
made for the new lore
They can be interpreted in a way that fits it though
I mean, I can tell that by the title
Mhm
But I was wondering
because they're fire
and I love analyzing songs lmao
but honestly I can't really put them together
Well
Yharon knows that Yharim's gonna lose his fight to the terrarian
And well
To be honest
Yharim also knows that
So he's basically going "ay homie, r you sure you wanna die for this cause? i mean i respect it i'll still fight for you if you do but i wanna make sure you're sure of that first"
I see I see
also (sorry for all those questions, but I'm super fixated on Calamity currently and I'm still getting into lore)
Why do exactly Yharim wants too fight Terraria and vice versa
Like, Yharim speaks to us trought the whole game, it just makes a bit no sense to me
From what I can tell, Yharim realized his mistakes
so why do we need to fight him actually
so why does he talk to us...
He's actively trying to manipulate us into being his sucessor, because he's well aware that he will die of old age before he can kill Xeroc
He wants us to fight him for him to test if we are truly strong enough
And he's willing to die for that
Oooohhhhh
He very much
does not regret his actions
or most of them, anyways
As shown by things such as the slime god lore whisper
I thought he's like "ye I kinda fucked up, could you clean it up for me?"
he not only still despises gods
but is actively trying to get you to kill them
Yharim does not think he's a bad person, he just thinks he's a hero that failed his heroic mission, and that's why he's seemingly so depressed
- All of his allies left him
no wonder
(Usually because of the fact he's a terrible person)
Okay that makes it way more clear for me
All besides Yharon anyways
Yharon's the only one that sticks by his side till the end
I've read all the backstory lore, like the draconic war etc etc, but I don't really understand in-game lore that much
which makes sense, given the two of them were the ''founders" of the crusade
and are also kind of best friends
who share more or less the same ideology
also the fact that Yharon is basically his pet
Yeah he's not really a pet
a pet can be your only friend
why not tho
He's not an animal
He's like
a dude
He's more of yharim's best friend than yharim's pet
yeah like yharon is just as sapient as yharim
in fact he might be smarter considering how long he has probably lived by technicality
Yeah honestly yharon is probably smarter
He's like
2 gorillion years old
He can speak and everything
He just dosen't speak to you because he don't like you
at this point I think like every character in the lore is smarter than him
yharim is a immensely intelligent strategist
but he's also got the emotional maturity of a angry cod player
draedon is a very high bar to clear
Like
yharom is basically a dnd character with super high strenght, super high con, super high charisma, reasonably high dexterity and intelligence
and then
bellow average wisdom
from what I see and know, this dude's usually carried by emotions rather than logic
so the cod player would fit
He's got the knowledge but doesn't always use it lmao
He's a amaszing strategist
and by god
he knows how to manipulate people
but he also does things like freeing the PBG in a moment of anger and inadvertedly causing the plague, and doing the entirety of the crusade based entirely on his biased prejudicial hatred for all gods
intelligent, emotionally immature
bro is senator armstrong
"At least I leave a worthy successor" type death
Yharon I can see why wanting to genocide gods may be more reasonable then yharim, since his friends and family and society were possibly from his perspective just killed and was reborn by a murder attempt where they tried to kill someone who refused to kill him
Still not good since after more then like a decade he still held his unreasonable hatred for absolutely everyone associated to divinity but his hatred is much more personal
Yeah he gonna do that
I mean, I'd say that Yharon's hatred is pretty justified even to this day
Yeah
it's justifiable for yharon
Yharon's hatred is perfectly justified, but you don't answer genocide with more genocide
not as much for yharim
that's also true
sympathetic backstory, but what you did was still fucked up
also, how many more bosses are we expected to get?
1
yharim
maybe 3
that's it
emphasis on the Maybe
wasn't Xeroc also supposed to be added?
1 garunteed up to 3 if noxus and xeroc
Makes sense
wait if Xeroc gets added to Calamity will Moon Lord's theme change?
Why would that happen?
(Plus we don’t know)
But why would xeroc being added change moonlord
yea i'd say the guy whose entire purpose for existing was making sure his species was immortal is at least a bit justified in being displeased that his species Very Abrubtly became Very Not Immortal
What is Noxus role in the game if in the old lore he was xerocs greatest enemy?
Current lore Noxus (may not be its name anymore) is the boss of the devourer and may be the source of a theoretical hivemind in the distortion
Not much known rn
I extensively played the old game under dokuro, and as such have not fully immersed myself with the new lore.
It is the “threat to all of terraria” in the ceaseless void lore item
If you want all the lore in one big read there is the doc in pins
Though if you don’t I’m fine answering questions
Will the player ever absorb yharons soul to become a god, be able to side with yharim to overthrow xerocs, or simply become a new faction altogether?
When we kill yharon that becomes an impossibility to absorb the soul, it requires a specific ritual that we don’t know
Devs have said that yharim will be dead after the fight
Xeroc is so above us in power we don’t kill him
what is then the player's motivation?
Was the overhaul in response to Fandom vandalism?
The lore overhaul? Not to my knowledge
Thanks.
No problem
yes and no
maybe hate for the people who did it
it has been like an entire century
a new generation is getting hatred for something they never did
not talking about gods btw, yharon and yharim didnt just kill gods
I was looking at the lyrics of stained brutal calamity and had to ask, who’s the one that sent SCaL to kill us?
herself
Btw I’m like trying to learn the lore of the mod lmao
she saw us like
killing basically anything that attacked us (depends on ur headcanon)
and went like
"last thing i want is another yharim"
the lore document if you havent read it already
Daw phooey
also
why is Yharim okay with us killing Yharon
unless he's not but he doesn't seem too bothered with it
He is affected but he k owe yharon will come back
Yharon left on his own volition
Since yharon is the only dragon who can self revive
Also yeah Yharon will redirect in like a decade
and why do we even fight with Yharon in the first place, from what I know Yharon decided to fight us on his own, but why since Yharim is basically guiding us
this part makes no sense to me
Why can we not just absorb his soul like any other dragon?
alright, but he still seems pretty chill with the fact that we killed his only friend and used remains of his body to make na Auric armor, that isn't attuned
I mean, we are not loyal to yharim?
"The enemy ascended beyond your control"
Yharim's been guiding us throughout the game so that we can surpass and succeed him.
Yharon thinks that once we get stronger than Yharim we'll just kill him and be done with it (correct).
bc for plot convenience reasons the method has been lost to time
We don’t k ow the ritual to absorb it
Not really if there’s multiple gods left and each one knows how
And the profaned guardians each
like, idk, I just think that he could see us making the auric armor as sort of a mockery
I know, but we could just throw it into the crafting tree and make divine armor.
Or a ripper powerup
We get soul fragments, so I assume yharons soul is like immediately sent to the aerie upon death
I still don't understand why Yharon would fight us in the first place
he doesnt want us to kill yharim
and how is he aware of the fact that we're going to
To test us to be worthy of fighting the gods, since he knows he will be reincarnation, and to prevent others from absorb the soul.
why else would you have come as far as you have
he's been watching us, like yharim has
they were both chilling in the dragon aerie together so im assuming they share the same tv
We’re a rising threat who at this point, like a third of what we do is kill yharims army
Devourer died to us who was related to yhar
Mechs were parts of his army
we kinda kill everyone we fight so that's not a good look for when we go up against yharim
Yeah
👍
so basically Yharim wants us to kill him but Yharon who's on the same side as Yharim, doesn't want us to kill him so he fights us to (maybe) stop us
Yeah
And more will be added in major updates
Don't we already know pretty much everything besides the Xeroc, Distortion and Noxus stuff?
They plan on re doing boss dialogue cause lots is outdated
We don’t know how the Ilmeran civilization ran itself
And more npc dialogue
And at some point re doing the vanilla bestiary so it’s cal lore accurate I think
We don’t know what aerialite ore is and the ancient sky civilization
The devs also want to rework the lore items so it’s not just an info dump after a boss fight
And maybe not yharim noticing us for killing a slightly big slime that like any above average warrior can kill
what else could they be tho
I think that's what a "lore item" is supposed to be

(There's a lot more to come)
Not necessarily I’m not up to date but I don’t think anything has been specificity stated saying we will. I think getting him as a town npc would be chill
i was just having an idea of my terraria character banging their fist on the ground after a post moon lord boss fight and being horrified at what they've become
make them do a speech on a cliff at sunset while linkin park plays
Pretty sure it has been said yhar won’t survive
He will be killed yeah
It's been confirmed already
Would be kind of wacky to get the main villain as a town npc
yharim couldn't do anything as a town npc regardless
he would probably just keep trying to kill you
because he absolutely does not ever bend in his convictions
that's like
his whole problem
you could just add a spare option which will only end up in yharim saying "fuck no"
but that feels uncesseray imo
spare him? nah im killing him
Yharman just kills himself if you wait too long to end him
yharim would absolutely pull a frieza and force you to kill him
Yharim won't have a spare option
There you go
He'll fight for his beliefs until the day he dies
Either you kill him, or deal with the consequences of him being the exact same
put him in
the jar
what if I put him in a chair and hypnotized with subliminal messaging flashes
pull a percy jackson, wipe his memories and see the kind of man he could have become had the whole "god-king incident" thing never happened
Pure willpower will reject it
yharmnesia
The jar…
also did a math assuming an average sea
i thought the sunken sea was freshwater
to me, it was described as a saltwater aquifer
keep in mind
this math I just sent wasn't even originally made for SCal
it was made for
uhh
fair enough
god is bleeding
man
for a second there i thought he was spreading his legs and showing off the goods
😭
😔
jokes aside the fact that this thing gradually boils sea through its sheer bodily heat is crazy
and goes hard as fuck
literal aura
that's wack
the lore in this game makes me want to write a fanfic so bad. i love the lore 😭 and i have so many headcanons abt my terrarian
every time i see posts abt the lore im like a wild dog
omni vs omni man
do it
dont tempt me, ive had so many ideas in my head
LMAO
i havent written one in like 10 years straight up...
thats how potent this games lore is to me
tomorrow that line will be "I haven't written one in like 0 days straight up..."
😳
As somebody with a want to make a calamity fanfic (but I’m busy with stupid shit), do it
i need a cheerleader like u for all the stuff i want to do but cant seem to get myself to
im nosy, what would ur story be abt
if you want to write a cal fanfic then go for it
it's been done many times before
hell even rebecca did it
there are so many people who are cringe
the lore is probably what has made me so obsessed w cal lately :3
cringe is just part of life when you're in a fandom
i havent been in a fandom in ages..
don't kill the part of yourself that's cringe, kill the part that cringes
im plugging my fic to encourage you (for real not like im just doing it because i want more people to read it
)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUwwYmdOPlmwobTI_lgqanvVvyTfXKwAqGSAb7NoSEI/edit?usp=drive_link
This was it. CLANG There was no going back now. “Hn!” The Godseeker pushed Braelor away with his massive stone blade. “To attack me now of all times… You certainly know how to pick your timing.” Not giving his opponent time to speak, Yharim rushed forward with a slash aimed at Braelor’s ne...
i was gonna write this multi-chapter long arc of my terrarian slowly upgrading upgrading the biome blade throughout his journey until i realized
that's gonna take like a year
1233popcorn



