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The jesus is real
ok nevermind
Is that why they call it bejesus
bee jesus
yharim will drop an auric nail gun
We know what yharim looks like but what does Xeroc look like
or do we just not know is
Ik there’s concept art
But is there any concrete answer on his looks?
Oh
golem is based off a sun god and xeroc controls sunlight so
Golem 3
Wait no 4
The symbol is just the primordial light symbol right?
it being his eye is old lore
i really don't know
like I used to think the symbol was his eye watching us as we did his challenge
Same but I heard it was just the primordial light symbol
Does look like a eye though
I mean does this and the symbol look similar?
Wait
This is essence of sunlight
Oops
Sun being primordial light
i cant believe that dog dies in endgame
Is that just extremely diluted primordial light
So in calamity
are there like
clans in the lore
Like are there groups such as the cultists
there are the lizards
they're weird
Oh wait
theres the sky islands
fovos killed them all in a day
That’s not what ur talking about
what even is the lunatic cultist purpose on calamity lore
Trying to seal fovos
want to revive dracon
Lmao
Who is dracon?
pronounce it again
There are plenty of groups
I’m ant statis part of the onyx kinsmen, another group
Not since the rewrite
It's their sigil
i have a question, who is noxus supposed to be and is he mentioned in the game?
if you look directly at the sun you can see the primordial light sigil
this is a reference to terraria calamity mod
Hinted at barely in some lore items

it takes a while to see sometimes
Ceaseless and dogs
i could only see it if i stared at the sun very hard
And Draetalk hints aswell I think
So what purpose do storm weaver and signus serve now
I know ceaseless is a portal to the distortion
weaver is a major threat to the sky ecosystem
hes like, killing everything
Signus is some Faustian bargain fae eldritch being from the distortion, storm weaver just chilling while yharim calls it the same species as dog
signus breaks up gay couples
if you ever see this in the sky it means giant monstrosities powered by primordial power are going to kill you
signus supports conversion therapy (unbased)
And supports it costing an arm and a leg
(Unbased)
maybe signus isn't homophobic and just left braelor in the distortion so he could have statis to himself
signus is jealous
It says things cost blood, and blood is a red substance form the body not white so I doubt it
why doesnt braelor just leave is he stupid
ok but at the same time mana is stored in the bones in calamity
Plants don’t do good at cutting space time
and thats blue
Wait really?
Is the terrarian like spawning into the world already powerful?
.
Showing he’s capable of doing this stuff
terrarian possessed by the player
me when i have to kill yharim because i'm bored 💔
This is hilarious


I did a two year old one to my friends just to piss them off
but who did he ping then
lorewriter user
You think this is what Yharim was posting on YouTube after the bee incident
Draedon is mr beast?
ok wait lemme post smth
Draedon is gonna have a black square on his face and captions like "IT'S OVER"
You did the same did you not
“The draedon situation JUST got worse.”
"HE'S DONE"
There’s a difference?
wait this actually fits so well with a type of magic my OC uses
this is so awesome
Didn’t know you could turn the ping off
Oh I found how
Skeletron should be the most magical being ever, it’s just bones so it’s mana making will be absurd
Less bones than some other creatures
is draedon's race like really smart or is he the jimmy neutron of his land
Mainly worms
He's not a living thing
I thought someone else built draedon
He's a machine
Yes
Who built him though
Some rando scientist
Draedon isn’t a species
Some unnamed very smart scientist build an AI who, after the person's death, managed to control drones to collect materials for projects
I can assume it used to take orders
daedalu-💥
But got smart enough to realize why it had to
Nah draedon woke up and saw the guy dead
f
Draedon was already super smart
So some assume it’s a botched sentience transfer
i just headcanon that it was a consciousness transfer that just deleted the guy's memories in the process
Idk what I think draedon is
add nameless for good measure
they're not surviving
This solos
engineer gaming
is it draedon alone or his machinery
Yes
he's losing i think
Auric polterghast theoretical vs normal polterghast
auric
That’s a comparison?
Auric souls (apparently) is a lot more unstable then normal souls so I’d wonder if a auric one would be weaker cause if that
the perforators vs the hive mind who wins
yeah its 50/50 tbh
There is the mod that lets bosses fight eachother
Who wins depends on the vibes
What is stopping ML from getting back his old power?
Smash Bros Mod
For some reason I’ve always wanted to see King Slime and Eye of Cthulu just throw hands
I assume the seal on the moon trapping it there is part of why
Who sealed it?
Ohh ic
Idk maybe the missing HALF of his lower body
couldve asked the dragons about it
Before people take their souls away

Yharon
Yo guys I have a question
Is the permafrost inside the Cryogen or has he been turned into Cryogen
calamitas trapped permafrost in it
Who is statis
or i should say sealed
Does the shimmer biome have any lore in calamity?
not atm
What would happen if you drank shimmer, would you just forever be phasing through the ground?
mmm cherry flavour :)
With a side of glitter
I feel like scal fits as for after exos (not stronger but just fought as the end), maybe it’s just the theme being more dramatic and scals aesthetic seeming more final to me
Yet another crossover question - how would Undertale interact with Terraria Calamity world, if Mt. Ebott was transplanted somehow into the playable world? Lore-wise it is.
Both sides keep their respective canons (and act accordingly).
That isn't consiousness transfer. That makes it a completely new and different person. What else would it be?
Yharim era: the monsters are fucked unless they hide there the whole time.
Post terrarian: the monsters might have a pretty good time if they can convince the humans they're nice.
they'd also be pretty confused by the existience of monsters outside mt ebott that don't turn to dust
in order to make this work, you'd need to change a few things about the lore of both, I think.
Humans souls are still strong, but will no longer be the strongest ones around for one.
Human souls in calamity are like monster souls in Undertale, and dragon souls in calamity are like human souls in Undertale
With the whole "sticking around" thing
ok but what about memory loss irl
does this mean that people with amnesia are different people than they were before it despite having the exact same genetic sequence and everything else
If it is a really specific type of full amnesia, then yes.
If there is anything remaining, then they are partially the previous person and partially something new.
i guess consciousness transfer is different in that the body is replaced but theres still other stuff in the brain that usually persists after memory loss
Memory and personality are linked and stored in very similar ways, as far as I understand.
And the thing about these monsters, is that these would likely be in 99% of cases, hostile to Mt. Ebott denizens by default.
Destroying part of one destroys part of the other, and vise versa. The resulting person may have a similar personality, but it's not guaranteed.
why wouldnt everyone else also be stuffed inside that mountain
We don't know this for sure
You'd have to resolve the lore happenings that led to the monsters being there in the first place, and exactly what monsters even are
... now granted this would be impossible to do if dragons were considered monsters too but dragons are clearly different
Terraria monsters are primarily animals that also have magic powers, Undertale monsters are primarily like elementals, basically, and they just also have animal or object traits.
We're talking about insertion of Mt. Ebott by forces outside of even Xeroc's grasp.
Anything could happen in this case. You'd have to decide what things are equivalent, if any.
It's too vague to give any real answer
Human souls stay the same, but hierarchy is slightly different.
Auric Soul => Elementals (high-end) => Human Souls/Biome Souls => Boss Monster Souls/Elementals (low-end) => Monster Soul.
ok anyways yeah i think fovos' destruction and effect on the world would be far greater in this case
a very monster-looking beast shows up one day and starts killing shit
im sure that after the dragons barely win they'd blame it all on the monsters
and then their sealing in ebott becomes much worse because it would be because of draconic magic instead of human magic
thus being far harder to break
I still think this is too arbitrary to make any conclusions. There are too many things you could decide on.
Human souls in Undertale can time travel. Nothing in calamity can do that
*Being with greater DETERMINATION can override other's ability to time-travel.
In this case, presence of Xeroc would pretty much prevent such soul-powered time travel from occuring.
im sure that theres SOMEONE in the human world in regular undertale more determined than frisk
imma be honest i doubt all the saving and loading can take place outside of ebott in general
Why?
Canonically, frisk has normal determination, and the player them self is in control of the saving and loading and all frisk's actions. Frisk is just along for the ride
Because he holds the essence of Xeratros Dragon of Primordial Light. And by default assumed to be the being with greatest Determination in this case. Alternatively, there is Yharon, the last Auric dragon, who holds dominion over Life and Rebirth.
None of those things have any connection to determination.
It's the player's determination, not any character
As far as I know, in canon Undertale Human SOULS have much, much, much greater Determination than any monster save for few outliers (Boss Monster SOULS and Undyne, which SOULS are still inferior to human ones in DT part). Flowey and Sans get to cheat, former due to his being being almost entirely animated by pure DT, without a proper SOUL, and the latter (to much lesser extent) due to unexplained powers and Karma something.
Flowey even mentions somewhere that he is unable to SAVE, LOAD and RESET anymore due to Frisk being around (||until he gets his Photoshop Flowey form or properly restores himself as Asriel||), which is as direct confirmation that being with greater DT can indeed prevent others from utilizing said powers, as it can get.
I just expanded that logic over to Auric Souls and Elementals.
Terrarian in this case gets to cheat too, because he/she is controlled by a player (who would find it very inconvenient to be unable to save the game and continue later).
What's the lore for calamity gang
Sorry, we were discussing a crossover scenario.
Which by necessity required delving into details of either canon.
I'm asking what the lore for calamity is because I just found out it had lore like 5 minutes ago
Check the pinned messages.
theres a lore doc in the pins
Part 1 is true but ignores developer statements that the player is a canon entity and the reason frisk's soul has so much determination. Part 2 made an assumption that soul power = determination
Reasonable assumption, but assumption nevertheless. So yeah, you're correct on the second one. First one... Yeah, I am aware of Player involvement, which is why I said down below that Terrarian in that case also gets to cheat, again due to player's presence on the other side of the screen (and their convenience, obviously).
Alright, that's fair.
Bad assumption
Somewhat bad
I agree
While soul power doesn't mean determination
I believe a large amount can give a semblance
See what undyne did (to an extent)
If soul power meant determination, poltergast would be have the most, because it is made of the most souls
Undyne just has normal determination.
She's just better lmao
Way more than the usual monster
And if soul power meant determination high power monsters would have it I think
woahhhh story of undertale
Polterghast is for all intents and purposes a massive amalgamate in this case (and very aggressive one), just made out of human SOULS instead of Monster ones.
Woooooaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooh story of family guy
My roblox crashed wtf
It’s a sign
Yes. This would make it far stronger than anything we see in Undertale, but with less control.
Amalgamates in Undertale are literally invincible
child cant kill it
its literally invincible
Fun fact, if you cheat to get to the true lab at lv2 or higher, you actually can kill snowdrakes mom
You just barely can’t at lv1
Alphys would probably faint from just witnessing that freak spawn of cursed souls. And nobody would blame her for that.
After all, what is Alphys's failures compared to consequence of Yharim's negligence, a complex fused being of probably hundreds, even thousands, of souls, stuck and damned in the dungeon?
the same child can kill things that are incredibly strong. A reasonable low but not lowest estimate would be low mountain level things, given that omega flowey deletes the entire underground(?)
the absolute lowest would be beating things that can suplex boulders, as we see clearly with undyne.
LV is tied (almost) directly with "killing intent". Consistently LV 1 being wouldn't harm shit, while LV 20 one gives 0 damn about life of others and will kill without any hesitation (which somehow also makes magic less defensively effective).
This gets in to interpereting gameplay mechanics, because LV affects player stats. I am of the opinion that LV makes you physically stronger because it powers up your soul or something like that
we know LV corresponds to real physical outcomes in terms of damage, so it's strange that repeated hits from someone who doesn't want to kill would eventually kill, but someone who really wants to kill does a million times more damage
Another weird thing, is that LV only really affects damage against (Undertale's) Monsters specifically (and possibly Elementals in this scenario). Against physical objects it adds virtually nothing of value.
do we know that?
I can't recall any instances of attacking physical objects except arguably metaton's body.
also, those same monsters affect physical objects with great strength too
it seems weird that these things would be unrelated
From the entry that outright states that monsters are uniquely vulnerable to attacker's mental state, it is kinda implied.
that's a bit of a leap
yall still discussing undertale x calamity? 😭
tf
dear god
why is this undertale related now
Discussing a crossover scenario rn.
We can stop if we are told to.
I don't really even care about the crossover anymore
So we can wrap it up for now and discuss something else.
oh wait, one more thing
LV increases your HP stat, and your HP stat is affected by physical attacks, not just magic
In Terraria (unless you have RPG mod installed), HP can only be increased by using very specific items, or temporarily by potions. Undertale follows an RPG convention regarding HP. I handwave the latter part by an assumption that most entities in Calamity are already at their highest LV possible (thus they're hostile by default).
But we will really end this for now. Time for something different.
isn't there a whole thing of monsters being weaker than humans
i'm almost sure that the calamity bosses on the other hand are much stronger than the average monster or human in undertale, and the terrarian scales up with strength to kill them
terraria monsters also have physical bodies and remains
monsters turn into dust
therefore, they're completely different
For as powerful as the Exo's are, it's still weird directly remembering they don't exactly have an ounce of free will.
It's not that weird. A nuclear bomb is powerful and has no will
It's just a little bit weird for me.
I mean, it 100% makes sense.
Seeing these things go absolutely nuts in such a way and knowing they just fight off of A.I is pretty mind blowing.
Draedon was in his lab cooking.
@sinful adder Another random crossover scenario (and mod that adds the character in question already exists):
How would Kirby compare to Calamity's stuff, and how would Yharim and Draedon describe it?
that depends how you scale kirby power. Different dev statements contradict for them
The Internet generally agrees Kirby clowns many from what I know-
We however, know for a fact that Kirby is a much more compact and cute counterpart to DoG.
Can swallow pretty much anything and gain powers from whatever it swallowed (or shoot out a damaging star).
i feel like kirby would be described as a demonic, eldritch entity
kirby easily beats all of calamity
Kirby tangos with capital G Gods regularly

And Yharim would be wise to run the hell away and never look back.
i think it would be cool if yharim befriended kirby to abuse his ease in killing gods
since he's.
imagine if yharim was a girl
imagine if you were real
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this is not english
is english dog's first language or does he speak it so the player can understand him
He speaks Russian first
Didn't JRR tolkien invent russian
No that was me
Calamity fans when they find out Calamitas is ≈40
should i upload calamity brainrot on yt?
late 20s
40 isnt that old yet
True
nah
Calamitas joined as a mere child and served around a decade
i dont think so
Uhhh not sure how long has passed since then
she was a teenager when she destroyed azafure
So I’d assume she’s like 25–30
you can look at dev statements if you want
so like 15, she joined the cursades around maybe 17 and it has been like 20 years since
She was way younger in Azafure
that would put her in her 30s, so not quite
it said somewhere in the lore about her being a teenager when it happened if i recall corectly
a decade is 10 years chief
and shes aroace
?
all we know shes in her mid-late 20s
why does the guide look like he broke his jaw
i still think otherwise

Also I have not been on this sever since I joined
it's been stated by devs
it's quite literally canon
.
nvm
she prob looks so old cuz 10k yard stare
you look like a nerd
I look like doctor pepper cream soda
drinks u
Poisons
:(
500 yummers
Exactly
YIU FO OL
Thunder cross split attack
ok goku
Tey'LL LETTHE STICKER PLAY MORE THAN 500 Times
Nameku dbs

Goku became emo briefly
He even died his hair
He died
He became bald his hair died :(
Them he rizzed 3 days later
you know what else Goku did?
Shes old enough to be my like
sibling
We love woku
Not that i have any siblings that are 26 but its pretty reasonable
"You transitioned right?
That means you're stronger"
Goku was never in the closet
He was merely training in there
God my grammar is awful tonight
goku wants to fight estrogen
Super saiyan rose but not evil
He would
Almost every anime protag ever would
Which is incredibly based
Sigmus quote of the day: You may only solve your traumas by facing them.
IN this case, i restored Azafure and made the whole thing happen again, I'm going to keep doing this till she no longer has the traumas of the destruction of Azafure as she would have faced them.
sigma
yessir
was calced at 5,8 teratons, to possibly twice that as the higher end
so it's between small country+ to lower ends of baseline country level
Thank yooouuu!
np
yhar har
YHARRR
i'm still messing around with some of the colors
yhomni
I'm surprised Auric wasn't called Yharic in old lore
Screw the bees, science always wins in the end just as Draedon eventually will.
yharim getting mad with this 1
Is your profile picture... shrek stalin?
2019 called
they want their glowing red eyes back

what the fuck

they're not wrong
My brain blocked that message from my mind to save me the mental damage the first few times I saw it
sketched the side profile of the helmet
am i cooking with the sketching??
this is just kinda sketch to get a general idea of the armor
after this i'll probably try one with better proportions and line art
not polished in the slightest but it helps get the design across
face looks a lil goofy but its prob cause of the lack of polish
his proportions are pretty wacky but it's not the final version
You cooking
Why he look so short tho
You know when we were discussing things about yharim's design i kinda wanted him to have like
an animal pelt belt
and maybe some other more brutal looking things to contrast the high-tech and slightly elegant armor
cowboy hat and a yellow+blue scarf and a toy gun and a
sorta adding to the detial that on the surface he seems elegant but you realize how brutal he really is
wouldve kinda muddied things up tbh
guys do you think the person who made the atom splitter knows how splitting an atom works
cause well
that wouldn't make you shoot things from multiple timelines, that would...
uhh
What?
I think it splits atoms by shooting things from multiple timelines
There is an actual theory that it would create additional timelines, at least if you split the arm and create enough energy, but it’s just a rough theory…
*atom
do people know how atomic bombs work

like. thats what happens when you split atoms. atomic bombs. thats how theyre made

neutron + U235 = 2 smaller atoms + more neutron + lots of energy
chain reaction! !!!
Alr
btw i could survive the universe splitter
Yeah, just saying that if you happen to split the atom and generate an unfathomably larger amount of energy, there are theories where it would open up alternate timelines…
it is indeed, impossible to split the universe 
the calamity universe meeting the 4 dimensions
Runaway process
but
its like superfast chain reaction
rim
I think the current design does that well because you have this like gold, picturesque facade hiding a man who has served brutality and immorality, who physically looks scarred. Like it’s just a false initial image of him that you’d have to literally look inside to see his true intentions
It’s almost a symbol of his self righteousness. You know I’d imagine Yharim would become the stuff of legends and when you’d see him you’d kinda just get that feeling from looking at him on the surface level, standing atop a mostly abandoned and probably nature reclaimed aerie
yharim literally wants to look like a knight in shining armor
he wants to be perceived as a hero
I haven’t been following lore like at all, but I have always thought of auric being almost like a fools gold, almost completely worthless to the vast majority of people but abled to be processed into something greater. Still, to the average person, yharim would be wearing a suit of fools gold, and I kinda like that head canon cause it exemplifies his character.
auric is not near useless, but literally noone else than yharim and you can use it
Yeah, so the vast majority of people would call it fools gold or something cause it’s unusable to anyone bar the greatest engineer and those it deems “worthy”
even draedon cant technically use it
he had a lot of trouble with making yharim's armor
He didn’t use auric for his Exo mechs due to how hard it is to work with I doubt he can use it, yharim probably helped him a lot with the armour
probably also didnt have access to auric directly
especially not after leaving yharim
Yharim did probably use a lot of the auric aswell
that one lobster from old godzilla shows vs xeroc
Lobster
Lobter power
nah fam trust me lober solos
Maybe
Depends if that's the same vegeta that lost to perfect cell twice
"You're either perfect, or you're not me"
the best kaiju is gamera obviously
totol
Biollante
Imagine a plant running your fade
biollante goes hard though
my favorite kaiju is like. biollante probablty
biollante is awesome yea
Giant plant destroys city
awesome design + actually cool lore and movie
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his name is bradly, he is rather demonic in nature
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anyway i think hedorah is a silly guy and i think his concept is cool
What are aurics origins?
we don't really know
it's obviously connected to the auric dragons in some way, both because they share their name and the line "draconic energy manifests in the caverns" or however it goes
though in what way it is connected to the dragons, and how it came to be, we don't know
Maybe the “auric” of dragons can also affect metal causing auric ore, so on death just like some soul fragments break off some of its power causes auric metal to form
given how little we know of it, there are a lot of theories you could make regarding it
which is quite fun
Yeah
why doesnt fovos need a wheelchair
During the 2nd phase of Yharon in his theme during the fight, he says “message to my master,” he’s speaking to yharim right? Although if he is I don’t know what he means by “this is a fight you cannot win”
yes he is referring to yharim
yharon is saying to yharim that he's probably gonna die to the player
Makes you wonder
Why develop legs if they can float
maybe he couldn't at first
No way we’re gonna learn space cthulhu’s anatomy!!!
we're gonna kill yharim
so
Maybe the legs were more so a way to store cosmic energy and also attack below rather then function as normal legs
Yharon is saying to yharim that the player WILL slaughter yharim if he doesn’t get his shit together
ohh
yharim going thru a late life crisis or sum shit?
the legs were there to dropkick babies
Yeah, In the song it says he is blinded by depression and I’m pretty sure with current lore all of phase 2 yharon theme is canon
fovos fatally wounded zeratros with an overhead kick
except yharon calling yharim his master
but even that can be explained so
yeah
Sadly stained brutal calamity doesn’t make sense with current lore
sbc is kind of just in a weird spot
besides epiphany sounding AWESOME
some parts of it work, some dont (like the entirety of lament and the "under your ruler's despondant demand" part)
my favorite song in the whole game: SBC:E
epiphany is indeed amazing
Epiphany is when you beat scal right?
acceptance is still prob my favorite part though
starts during the whispering maelstrom
epiphany is the best one but acceptance just
I love it
Honestly all the song is great, took a while for me to get into the song but I like it
epiphany just builds off the main melody perfectly
lament is the worst purely because i cant listen to dokuro's singing for very long before it gets annoying tbh
Oh rip
Did the brimstone slag biome use to be a city or something?
Yeah
I’m pretty sure calamitas attacked them
and then that’s where the brimstone elemental is just kinda a killer machine thing
Nah brimstone elemental attacked it and scal tried protecting it
Yeah
I’d fight the elemental more but the heart of the elements kinda suck so 🤷
Current lore brimstone awoke suddenly and started wrecking shit, scal awoke her powers as a complete equal to brim and their fight still destroyed the city
calamitas when brimstone elemental
Whose brim and whose cal
scal is an azafurian and hates azafure because she's evil or something idk i don't pay attention to lore
She isn’t evil I don’t think
take a guess
she may not be evil but she IS fucked up
Soo after the draedon update did like all lore kinda change
Because if changed
ALOT of stuff
ye
Needing a therapist isn’t evil
lore was essentially all remade
Calamitas used to be an eyeball
she is fucked up as in she's autistic
That would be weird to explain
Wai wha
no she's fucked up as in she needs help
did i stutter
no i didnt. liar.
Autism is a disability of sorts so semi same thing
nuh uh
Fool
calamitas is very normal and well adjusted to society
So where does the sunken sea come from? I have an idea or two on where but I’m not sure if it’s right
later actually
I think it’s the major update after draedon
from the ashes came like a year and a half later
also yeah when draedon got added the lore was still Old
didn't he get reffered to as the cosmic engineer then
in fact his lore was really goofy looking back
it was like
Yharim flew to space for some reason and found a completely robotic planet that draedon roboticized and just said "make me armor" and draedon said "ok"
Neither did I
but. yeah.
it's true, he did
Why didn’t calamitas kill permafrost when yharim ordered her to?
Because she didn’t want to kill her father figure
cause permafrost is basically her adoptive dad
ohh
makes sense
And then I assume yharim right he was did
Permafrosts lore item being yharim being surprised he lives yet
Yeah yharim didn’t know scal trapped permafrost
yeah cal faked permafrost's death
because yharim would've just
sent someone else to kill him
(probably DoG)
up until this point calamitas was probably being told the ''people" she was killing were evil monsters and that she was being a heroine etc
but when she got told to kill permafrost, her father figure, which she knew was a good person
she probably went
wait a second .
And then like a year or two later she skidadling
this was after illmeris
Didn’t someone else say DoG doesn’t really give two shits about people who aren’t gods?
Illmeris was one of her first missions
no
oh wait yeah
you probs just misunderstood
devourer's goal
is to get divine essence
but it dosent mean he wont kill other people
he dosen't care about them as he
literally dosen't care about anyone cuz hes a egomaniac
neither the people he kills nor yharim or anyone else he worked with
he was basically yharim's hitman
he liked eating gods but he would also just kill whoever he felt like or was tasked to kill
his anme isn't even
ACTUALLY devourer of gods
he just called himself that
probably was like
"wait this yharim guy hates gods"
it's clear DoG has no taste, because "nameless serpent" is a MUCH cooler name
"hey yharim im the uhhh devourer. of. uhhh. GODS. yea. haha. i hate gods. love eating them. im so good at killing them and eating them. and killing them. im so fucking cool you should work with me"
Well devourer if gods is gonna get on yharims good side so that’s prob why he calls himself that
in the distortion. straight up "devouring it". and by "it", haha, well. let's justr say. Gods
Luckily he seems designed to eat gods essence and give it to noxus so the name stuck
He probably called himself it cause, like everyone says, he’s an arrogant asshole
nameless serpent of light
wrath of the dogs
So before the lore was changed, why tf was calamitas an eyeball
Brimstone magic revives causing her body to change I think
something something cursed by yharim
because yharim was a gary sue character in old lore
That was just mental curse
he could just do
everything basically
oh ok
no it was a curse that mutated her in ancient times
aren’t there still options to go back to 1.3 in tmodloader
Meaning you’d play the old version of calamity
With the old lore?
Oh right never thought of that
fandom lore is a whole another beast
Yeah
Yeah actually scrap that idea about fandom lore
don’t use it
there are the uhh

Oh yeah they covered a whole bunch
Also is there any official artwork on xeroc?
Pre ascension yeah
this is xeroc
Not xeroc god form
Yeah
why is he so low res
What happened to the pixels
idk I found it in my camera roll
xero(c) pixels
got cronched
Sober xeroc
So is xeroc considered a “good” god?
we don't really know but they seem kinda chill depending on how you look at it
xerocs probably chill
cannot for the life of me see them as evil
at best a good guy at worst just neutral
Maybe neutral
But I imagine decent guy, maybe neutral for not getting rid of evil gods but he prob just saw it as the world being the world
Just my theory before I get proven wrong but. It does say in the lore that calamitas scorched the sea from yharim order, turning it into a barren desert right?
the underground desert was full of water and civilization
but the underground desert was the sunken sea yes, atleast part of it
^
the surface desert was still a desert but underground was (mostly) a sea
noodl
QUELLI SONO SPAGHETTI
pasta
noodel
Will noxus and xeroc have to be fought post yharim?
Plantera is post mechs yet you can fight her in pre hardmode in calamity
So being linear is not much of a concern for the most part with calamity
superboss doesnt directly mean post-game
Well
Xeroc said you have to prove yourself worthy to get his proposal
so I assume we have to defeat yharim
To prove ourselfs
For him to share his proposal
When
Where
That’s the point of this channel
yeah you see that a lot here 😀
honestly xeroc seems chill enough to respect goku as a superior warrior if they ever met
Yeah
DoG
Calclone might not
Wonder what Noxus is doing with the god essence
Meth
Where even did calclone come from
A failed draedon experiment iirc?
karamithath chrone
Not failed cloning of cal that cal broke out
You lose to brain hater the cheese then
i believe her
❓
Man I'm beating you
Does anyone in calamity not regret anything?
If that makes sense
Like yharim who has massive regret
Does anybody like have no regrets?
yharim doesnt really regret much
he regrets losing his allies ig
but not as people but as tools that he was using
draedon doesnt really regret anything probably
signus regrets not dating statis before braelor and having to forcefully separate the two
Draedon can’t regret
Since that’s an emotion
But idk who else doesn’t regret, perma prob regrets helping yharim
Scal is full of it
Cal clone isn’t really sane enough to regret
Don’t think yharon regrets
Draedon isn't emotionless, only amoral, which is different
A robot ai
he can feel embarrasment/disgust due to how he reacts to our naming so
The guy who made the exo-mechs
But yharim also questions if he can lose his temper so I don’t think it’s cut and dry
how we name his creations
We name the mech bosses and miracle matter
he really hates the names we give to the mech bosses and miracle matter (the player canonically gives them those names)
Yeah I’m pretty sure only draedon and yharon don’t regret
yharon regrets his people dying
There’s a pinned doc with all the lore if you ever want to give that a read
That’s grief not regret, unless the dragon has survivor regret or whatever it’s called
he prob regrets not stopping the gods from absorbing auric souls
or at the very least zeratros' soul
Yharon died without its soul getting absorbed, so I assume yharon died of injury not long after xeroc sucked zeratros dead
maybe xeroc killed yharon in self defense
or moon lord killed him so yharon was an egg when xeroc ascended
(Probably not the case given how Yharon recounts Xeroc's ascension as if he was there at the time)
did you know that xeroc says "even that power... it is not enough"?
this is a direct parallel to the ending of the undyne the undying fight from undertale in which she says "so even that power... it wasn't enough?"
no nutdealer quote slips by me
I need to ask Cei
anyways what does this parallel mean?
umm
i dont think xeroc would trust undyne with his proposal
that dialogue is gonna get taken out when the proposal is actually added anyways
Ah so it placeholder
or will it
his proposal could be post-yharim, post-noxus, or even post-fight-with-xeroc
theres still time for that dialogue to exist
I’m pretty sure if we beat boss rush then we’re good enough for the proposal
Also will bossrush get a revamp or rework in the future?
boss rush should be removed imo
Calamitas and Permafrost regret Alot
Yharim regrets Some Things but not the ones that Actually Matter
Draedon, Devourer, Providence, etc as far as we know do not regret any of their actions
Maybe a rework where just a handful of bosses that are quite difficult instead of a pantheon of hallownest aproach where it’s every boss
Out of all the things yharim could regret he specifically chose to regret the part where he lost all his allies due to being a terrible person and not the being a terrible person part
literally throwing a pity party for himself
Like 20 difficult bosses over all like 50 bosses and 70% are piss easy or damage sponge
well I mean he regrets being a terrible person because his allies left him
Still throwing a pity party
He doesn't regret genociding all gods or slaughtering their followers though
In the new phase 1 resprite for DoG, where is his scar from? Or do we just not know yet
we don't know yet but
personally
strong believer that it was braelor
please i beg it would be so cool
btw go eat
go do that
food
go eat it
Why you telling daichin to eat
they need to eat
They should eat raw bread
Just so people don’t get confused
A thought: Draedon is not capable of regret because he is not capable of making a decision that has any regrettable consequences
"You're a squid (but like really, really strong)..." LMAO
calamity is actually an octodad spinoff I decided
tbh my personal headcanon is that the Terrarian is just the absolute embodiment of "Nah, I'd win"
bro stares down world-destroying bosses for breakfast
nfw none of the bosses can destroy the world
They could if given thousands and millions of years
Terrarian :
Only xeroc and noxus can in any worthwhile time
What does it mean by world
Just the Planet
The Galaxy
or the Universe
Ive heard people that hyped out character just because they were quoted to have "world destroying capabilities"
In calamity no one fits any of those definitions of world destroying
Some probably could but won’t, yharim working with yharon probably could destroy the world but he won’t considering he has an issue with genoside or enslavement of people who don’t team with the gods.
The enslavement part shown in the lore for plague bringer Goliath
Omni scaled scal to like country level (any higher and I’d disagree), so yharon and yharim given enough time (like months or years) I can see scorching the surface of the planet
scorching the surface is not the same as actually being able to do significant damage to the planet itself
Yeah but i can see ending the world as meaning fucking up the surface
I’m some contexts
Instead of turning the earth into air
when people say that x will end the world i think they mean killing all life on it
Basically scorching the surface
some people dont even really mean that, some people say that if humans all die then thats the end of the world
or if theres just yet another mass extinction event (we are literally in the middle of one already)
Yeah end of the world seems like a broad statement
what are the lore implications of this
too many to list
Would be pretty cool
They should cut 100% of it to make 50 of those per year
One in each state
Which would then hatch open and baby devourer of gods pop out
Cause it’s really giant eggs
Super omelet
if the us cut 100% of its annual defense budget maybe it wouldnt be in debt in a couple decades
But how would we defend
war is stupid anyways
well, war without reason cant exist
if you war for the sake of it not being a reason, isnt that already a reason?
It totally could, if you just make war the whole thing your society does
war with reason
well it's more like war-without-a-reasonable-reason
but that's way too long and clunky for a song title
A war without reason means that the reason is for no reason which in turn is the reason for the war without reason
then thats a reason
ye i was just being stupid
Ok yeah fair. It's a reason, it's just one that isn't reasonable
yes
can you tell me the reason of why does everything has a reason
to stop the paradox
oops didn't realize this was like sent 4 years ago
poopsie oopsu
not even a full hour is now 4 years
what if we discussed lore in #lore-discussion :3
impossible
How does Yharim have auric tesla armor
He doesn't
If it even is auric tesl armor
He has auric armor
Well auric in general
no tesla
Where did he get it
Wait what makes it Tesla. What did the terrarian do differently
Does aerie have auric ore?
The whole world does, but only people attuned to an auric dragon can touch it without exploding
Auric ore spawning after Yharon is a gameplay thing
Attunement is basically "power of friendship magic"
The player gets around this by having little pieces of Yharon's soul instead. This weakens the auric however.
Who was Yharim before shenanigans happened?
As a kid
Was he like a noble or smth
Oh damn
iirc yharim isn't his actual name
I thought he was like a teen at the time it began
his actual name is unknown
isn't the auric the same physical strength, it just lacks the auric rejection?
So that they get zapped instead of graphic content?
Huh? The zapping is the exploding, I was being dramatic
Oh
You stop getting zapped when you mix the ore with soul pieces or wear auric boots
auric boots
I’d imagine that it would be a lot worse but the Yharon soul fragments just weaken it
Or whatever
found it
What is auric rejecting?
john yharlamity's soulight river mod
simply don't add yharon soul to your auric armor IDIOT
if you touch auric that can reject, you get electrified and thrown around
to our knowledge, the only ways to not get auric rejected are to be attuned to an auric dragon or subdue the auric with auric soul fragments
if you touch auric it gmod ragdolls you
What if you tried to fuse Yharon soul fragments to your soul?
The way the god ritual thing works, or a similar ritual, but with just the fragments
That said, we know souls can at least sort of fuse without that ritual, because polterghast exists
yharon appears in your head and shittalks you like Nail in DBZA


