#lore-discussion

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scenic olive
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tarp like fins

random mulch
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ye

lone osprey
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Small question, does miracle matter atomizes and reatomize weapons to be more efficient?

wheat walrus
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"The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry. Etching the crystals with conduction pathways at the molecular level and providing an initial energy impulse, not unlike igniting a newborn star, transforms them into a facsimile of the Exo Prisms you are familiar with."

Well, while this isn't specifically about miracle matter creation, it's related

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and well

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it's at the molecular level

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not atomic, not subatomic

north wigeon
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legendary dog art
hell, it could even be official concept

split mortar
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That is looking amazing so far with the armour

feral fiber
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@kylloni0427 this is an English only server, please comply with the rules

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wait tf

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oh they left

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alright then

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you should contact modmail instead of pinging mods directly

woeful patio
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What happens here

random mulch
real silo
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Nicee

woeful patio
north wigeon
hoary berry
ionic harness
fading sun
north wigeon
fading sun
woeful patio
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Yharsauce

split mortar
woeful patio
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hmmmmmmmmmmm

spring helm
north wigeon
gusty seal
# woeful patio hmmmmmmmmmmm

looking up the meaning of Calamity character names almost never works. They usually make no sense compared to the lore, because the writers never took their meaning into account. The name Yharim means either "Eternal King", or "Near to God" depending on what source you look at, and Xeroc is a recycling company in the UK.

random mulch
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i mean he was meant to "rule forever as God-King" so i guess yharim's name sorta makes sense

gusty seal
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You make a good point

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But I don't think that was on purpose

random mulch
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xeroc being the name of a recycling company is pretty funny tho

woeful patio
woeful patio
real silo
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They turned xeroc into a british

gusty seal
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at least imo, I just wanted to point that out

north wigeon
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I keep thinking of Xerox the print company lmao

cloud ibex
mighty zenith
north wigeon
split mortar
gusty seal
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Yeah, I know. I should've probably mentioned that, because a lot of them actually do make sense.

real silo
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searching up otonilou brings up genshin impact characters :cluel

gusty seal
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I searched up otonilou and it gave me a whole bunch of vehicles like cars, trucks, and excavators

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and also the actual character itself

real silo
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I remember searching XM-05 thanatos on google and finding the thanatos I made in another game and posted on the game's forum 3 years ago

green prism
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the big name meanings are like
Yharim/Yharon - Bloodborne location
Draedon - Pokemon gym leader
Calamitas - Disaster in latin
Noxus - Latin for dark one
Xeroc - Printing company

random mulch
green prism
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neat

random mulch
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thank

fading sun
random mulch
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obvious inspiration from drayden is obvious

gusty seal
potent moat
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I got a question in terms of auric dragon stenght at what point is yharon at is he strong compared to the others?

gusty seal
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Yharon is the 2nd strongest auric dragon that ever lived. Zeratros was the strongest

spring helm
random mulch
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(it's his beard)

spring helm
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I know

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But it looks funny

severe lava
gusty seal
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Xeroc

severe lava
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Ohhh

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Makes sense

severe lava
random mulch
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maybe not really the "universe" but definitely the strongest in the world

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it's kinda unknown what's out beyond the world

split mortar
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(Also isn’t noxus able to destroy more land then Xeroc but xeroc is better kitted for a fight?)

scenic olive
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if you think about it Xeroc can just leave terra and train somewhere else where he can get stronger

scenic olive
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like dragon ballclueless

split mortar
scenic olive
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im sure Moonlord was starved by the time we fight him

split mortar
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Nah moon rock serves as the best food

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Normal rocks can be consumed (salt and maybe sugar?)

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So imagine the moon rocks, def able to sustain moonlord

scenic olive
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i mean hes starved of cosmic energy XD

split mortar
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Eh fair, prob lacking in that department

stray falcon
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Do the soul artifacts ever have plans of being significant again or are they just remnants of old lore?

split mortar
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I think just remnants for now

eager bluff
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xeroc

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not publicly available

chrome kindle
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i saw one guy saying creators are lazy and dumb

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on reddit

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is that a fact

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ig they just hating

rotund shore
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oof I can't be bothered to read this, but xeroc does not create Terraria in new lore

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In oldl ore he was the omnipotent creator of the world or whatever, but here hes just the strongest god

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lore has been rewritten over time

cloud ibex
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yea just skimming through there's a lot of things that are just wrong

rotund shore
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gods have a pretty narrow definition in cal lore, with them being relatively new compared to when the world is created

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iirc xeroc is only like, 800 years old or smth?

cloud ibex
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same as in current lore

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albeit the power scale is much smaller now

rotund shore
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he's the strongest guy ever, but by a smaller margin

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still a pretty massive gap between his and yharims power

pliant ruin
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xeroc is just a human who turned into a god

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he's not

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a creator of anything yeah

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just like all other gods he was a normal guy

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and then ascended

split mortar
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What do you all think is up with xerocs motives?

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Also courier yet another omori pfp I see

paper edge
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Who in calamity should be the one conducting the therapy for everyone else

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also who think there should be a complete bad apple cover by the nameless deity

hoary berry
hoary berry
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but also one of my OCs is a sweetheart i'm sure she'd be willing to help out

paper edge
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also are all dragon bird like or is it just yharon

hoary berry
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auric dragons were likely incredibly varied

hasty dragon
paper edge
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meaning a possible insectoid dragon

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what illigal substance calamity character would take

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@split mortar

pliant ruin
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I think he just wants to stop Fovos from happening again

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But there's probably more nuance than that

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but rn i think it's safe to say it's probably juist stop something as catastrophic as fovos (probably noxus) from happening

split mortar
pliant ruin
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at a baseline

pliant ruin
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he has the energy

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the rest dont consume any illicit substances except maybe like alcohol from time to time for some of them

pliant ruin
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those strike mas the two best for the job

hoary berry
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oh true

split mortar
hoary berry
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would there be alcohol strong enough to affect him?
i wonder if his alcohol tolerance is as crazy as his physical strength

split mortar
pliant ruin
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None of the calamity characters are Okay

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They're all incredibly traumatized

hoary berry
pliant ruin
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but out of all of them amidias and permafrost remain the most capable of offering genuinely good advice as far as i'm concerned

split mortar
pliant ruin
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like i think at some point yharim probably just gave up on everything that wasn't Kill Gods

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including Having Fun

rotund shore
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I think killing gods IS his fun

pliant ruin
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Fair enough but i think it's more of a obssession

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I think those two are separate things

split mortar
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He picked up drinking

hasty dragon
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HELPPPP YHARIM CALLED BRAELOR, STATIS’S ROOMATE

pliant ruin
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There's a difference beetween obsession (autism) and obsession (unhealthy)

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i understand the first one me too

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Oh he definitely enjoys it but i think it's a type of enjoyment different from something that's just casually fun like drinking alcohol or something

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Like i think at some point he'd stop doing things like the latter entirely

spring helm
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it's both for him

split mortar
jaunty wraith
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Hey lore question

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Anyone know the story behind anahita, the water elemental and where she came from?

pliant ruin
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she lived in the abyss

split mortar
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To my knowledge elementals just appear

pliant ruin
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and she's the water elemental

split mortar
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She appeared in the abyss and silvas prescience moves her out

pliant ruin
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and silva's domain expanding through the abyss kind of forced her to leave it and move shallower waters

split mortar
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But that’s about it I think

pliant ruin
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and uhhh yeah that's kind of it

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ye

jaunty wraith
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Did the leviathan also come from the abyss?

split mortar
# pliant ruin ye

Did not recognise you were cheese for a sec there, I need to read names over profile pics more

pliant ruin
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we dont rly know whats up with the leviathan

split mortar
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No one does

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Canonically

split mortar
frozen zodiac
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why does anahita try to lure the terrarian with her song? i would assume she just wants to be left alone

pliant ruin
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she's evil and fucked up

fading sun
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How about we bring back your profile pic

fading sun
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Now that I think about it yeah she does lure you in and them unleashes her pitbull on you

split mortar
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Plus she wants to drown the world kyoger style I think

fading sun
rotund shore
fading sun
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Nah like

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800???

split mortar
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Yeah, dragons died like a little past 1000 and it’s like 1880

fading sun
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Was the draconic era 800 years ago?

split mortar
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The end was 800 years ago yeah

fading sun
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This is like Japan where eras are like 200 years

fading sun
split mortar
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The dragon era was like thousands of years long though

fading sun
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Oh ok

fading sun
rotund shore
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its like, a primal desire all elementals have in my eyes

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but they aren't quite powerful enough to follow through

split mortar
rotund shore
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yeah brimmy was cracked but was eepy and then got calamitas'd

split mortar
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And then we happen a decade and a half later

fading sun
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Maybe the others are too

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Cuz like

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Ik in-game and lore stuff is different

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But

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10 different sand/cloud elementals at the same time

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Could just be the actual elemental making copies to annoy you

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Or something

split mortar
fading sun
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I am about to get the "game mechanic" treatment

rotund shore
split mortar
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While brim and anahita are just 1 strong body

fading sun
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Well I mean

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The other elementals are a lot less like

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Uniform??

rotund shore
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although there is pretty firmly two sand elementals judging by the accessories

fading sun
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Cuz sand is made of sand cloud is well

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A cloud with armor

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Anahita has scales

split mortar
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What are the bestiary entries for the smaller elementals?

fading sun
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Anahita actually is a physical being

rotund shore
fading sun
split mortar
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Yeah vanilla sans I doubt is canon

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Why did it autocorrect sand to sans

rotund shore
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but for cloud

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and the way this is worded does make it seem like it is indeed just PART of the elemental

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so I guess fighting it multiple times is canon

split mortar
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For the non boss elementals

pliant ruin
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sand elemental is canon

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most vanilla things are canon it's just that they don'tr have very detailed explanations about their existence (usually because they don't really need one)

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in sandy's case though she's probably one of the by technicality and association more important vanilla enemies

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since she's one of the main elementals

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but ultimately she's still pretty unimportant rn

fading sun
pliant ruin
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which to be fair most other elementals from calamity proper don't do much either besides brimmy and silva

pliant ruin
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i'd argue it's more so that red just dosen't want the game to have lore

split mortar
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Plus the bestiary entry for sand doesn’t do much other then just be similiar to cal elementals

rotund shore
rotund shore
split mortar
pliant ruin
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but i was more so talking about the relevance of vanilla creatures in calamity

fading sun
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Shut up

pliant ruin
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not terraria itself

fading sun
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He has lore

pliant ruin
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he has yeah but like

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barely any

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hes a neat little bit of worldbuilding and thats kind of it

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nothing wrong with that tho

split mortar
pliant ruin
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i like neat little bits of worldbuilding

split mortar
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Same

pliant ruin
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yeah earth elemental isn't an actual elemental it's a robot made to replace brimmy i think

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since she went honk mimimi zzzzzzzzz

split mortar
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Do we know how long she slepd?

pliant ruin
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nope

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we don't even know why she went sleeping in the first place

split mortar
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Another indeterminate long

rotund shore
split mortar
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I can only assume her way of causing her domain to grow may be vastly different to any other elemental

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Maybe it’s sleep, gain immense power, melt the world until out of power, repeat

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Or however she would expand hell

fading sun
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He was uhh

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Built??

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By

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Someone????

split mortar
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Same people who could make something contain probably dozens of gods essence

pliant ruin
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yes

fading sun
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Who made the wall again

pliant ruin
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earth elemental isn't a elemental it's a robot supposed to fill the role of one

split mortar
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Azafure people

pliant ruin
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some yharim army guys

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some yharmy guys

fading sun
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Azafure man I hate azafure

pliant ruin
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i mean they helped out yharim

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so reasonable i guess?

fading sun
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If only the sky civilisation had more lore

rotund shore
split mortar
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Didn’t azafure also make earth elemental?

pliant ruin
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i imagine most people in there weren't aware of his uh

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Crimes though

pliant ruin
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Crimes ™️

rotund shore
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what is yharims networth

pliant ruin
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they did

fading sun
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I thought it was like underground wizard gnome people civilisation

rotund shore
pliant ruin
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underground wizard gnome???

fading sun
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And it's yet again the damn azafurians

fading sun
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SOMETHING

split mortar
# fading sun Why

Brim went to sleep so they made earth to replace the missing elemental

pliant ruin
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are you just getting stuff from your dreams now

fading sun
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That's not azafure

rotund shore
split mortar
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It was the biggest and oldest city

pliant ruin
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it was revealed to me in a dream

fading sun
fading sun
pliant ruin
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probably will be elaborated later

split mortar
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Because they worshipped brim

pliant ruin
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i assume brim's presence was important to azafure somehow

split mortar
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And wanted another sentient elemental or something

pliant ruin
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or maybe it could just be some sort of religious group yeah

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/shrug

split mortar
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Great moonlords here

fading sun
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He has like

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The uh

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The nostrils

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Everywhere

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Except where they suppose to be

split mortar
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Cause it’s moonlord

rotund shore
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moonlord is fucked up

fading sun
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Wanna know who else is

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Ppl who point out the fact that his heart is outside his ribs

split mortar
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Everyone in calamity mentally?

fading sun
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That too

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Except permafrost

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He chill

split mortar
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And amidias

fading sun
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Very very chill

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Yeah

split mortar
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Litteraly

rotund shore
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the bandit is probably also chill

stark basalt
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Moonlord has most chill

split mortar
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Aren’t they like super greedy or something, maybe that’s not healthy

fading sun
rotund shore
fading sun
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Bandit steals from the goblin

fading sun
rotund shore
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its morally right to steal from the goblin

stark basalt
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Moonlord has the most chill, end of the debate.

split mortar
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Based, goblin is like the richest though

split mortar
rotund shore
split mortar
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They’re just going to send the gif again

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Yup

fading sun
rotund shore
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side note I love the wiki being wrong

fading sun
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Princess

split mortar
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Why do you do this kana

rotund shore
split mortar
stark basalt
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If a dev comes here, i want to make them a deal

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A year of straight moonlord posting

split mortar
fading sun
fading sun
stark basalt
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And i get my own terraria calamity item.

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I need it.

split mortar
fading sun
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It's a princess

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(royal)

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((presumably rich))

split mortar
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presumably

rotund shore
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What is draedons net worth

split mortar
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There has been a worldwide war that has attacked like everyone, we don’t know how much being a princess is worth on avg

rotund shore
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moonlord likely doesn't understand the concept of currency

split mortar
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Probably better to say endless

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Cause only xeroc and noxus can give maybe something he doesn’t have

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split mortar
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Or below it like a ant intellectually trying to understand a phone, just can’t due to dumb

fading sun
rotund shore
split mortar
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The zoom in blocking the eyes makes it worse somehow

languid badge
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no question mark, therefore you made a statement rather than pose a question

split mortar
languid badge
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true

split mortar
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Unless it’s that

rotund shore
split mortar
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This is so much lore we’re discussing guys

rotund shore
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so, addendum:
What is draedons networth?

languid badge
fading sun
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Another question

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Does moon lord

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Have a chin

split mortar
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Indeterminate but likely owns a nigh endless amount of beyond worth things like Exo prisms or the off button for the plague

fading sun
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He drops like 2 platinum

split mortar
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37 fargos pounds

split mortar
rotund shore
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How have I never heard usage of fargos currency until now this is untapped potential

pliant ruin
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wh ´poimged ,

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n jml

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who pinged me

rotund shore
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fargos time was already peak

split mortar
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I broke cheese

fading sun
split mortar
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Or someone did

rotund shore
fading sun
fading sun
rotund shore
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his chin region is too busy being tentacles

fading sun
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Man

split mortar
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Would yharim have beard hair, or does his Exo tech perfectly shave it off inside the suite

fading sun
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If only the moon lord gif had his mouth vertically and all of the eyes were realistic

rotund shore
fading sun
pliant ruin
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it was a friend pinging me in another server for limbus fanart

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nevermind

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its ok

fading sun
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There's probably no hair follicles there

pliant ruin
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thanks kana

split mortar
pliant ruin
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this is the first time i've been pinged with moon lord i'm honored

split mortar
fading sun
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I want yharim looking like Anakin skywalker

split mortar
rotund shore
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I do like the concept of having his exo tech enhancements shave it

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goes with the joke the other day that the enhancements also let him take showers

split mortar
rotund shore
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the exo tech barely makes the armor stronger, just gives good QoL

fading sun
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Imagine if his suit is like oversized

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Like twice what it should be

split mortar
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It’s what has allowed him to stay in the aerie for so long

fading sun
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And he got posters a cactus a pet rock

split mortar
fading sun
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All that stuff in there

rotund shore
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yharim is like 9 feet tall

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hes a big lad

fading sun
fading sun
fading sun
rotund shore
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he definitely ate his veggies

split mortar
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That is tall

fading sun
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That's a fucking enderman

split mortar
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Yharon made him eat his veggies after the lava

fading sun
fading sun
split mortar
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Exo tech does generate a huge amount of energy indefinitely

fading sun
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Cuz ik that dragon meat gotta have insane amounts of protein and other stuff

split mortar
split mortar
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Hence why all that’s left is the badly deep fried normal biggie of the old sprite

fading sun
split mortar
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Lore discussion discusses anything but lore

languid badge
fading sun
stark basalt
rotund shore
languid badge
stark basalt
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No i meant like left

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But yeah

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oh

rotund shore
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365 and 1/4th of we want to get pedantic

fading sun
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?

languid badge
fading sun
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This is why we can't have nice things

fading sun
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Who even counts all the days man

split mortar
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Why is there three versions of the moonlord gif

pliant ruin
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i'm

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i'm gonna cry

fading sun
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😭

languid badge
pliant ruin
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it's over

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it's completely over

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i'm finished

split mortar
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Have I just made another great evil plague this server?

split mortar
split mortar
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Yes I have

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Ima look for more

fading sun
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There should be a gif like this but it's plaguebringer

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So that you can actually say it's

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Plagueing

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The server

rotund shore
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draedon brought the plague to calmain, how scary

pliant ruin
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LITERALLY

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2000 HP

split mortar
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So close

rotund shore
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Activate your windows aubreygun

pliant ruin
fading sun
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43 hp

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Maybe 9 once

split mortar
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Pain

fading sun
split mortar
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Doesn’t sound pleasant

spring helm
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What’s going on here

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Why is kana spamming the moon lord gif more than usual

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Oh it’s not kana

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Still tho

split mortar
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Kana is, but others are aswell

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Plus there’s two other versions of the gif we have found

split mortar
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I didn’t

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This is naturally there

north wigeon
thorn drift
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How strong was Fovos in his prime, actually?

sly bloom
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Stronger than Noxus, weaker than Xeroc I think

split mortar
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I’m confused on the strengths between prime fovos, noxus and xeroc, I thought Noxus was more destructive then xeroc? But xeroc would win in a 1v1 is that still accurate?

ionic harness
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Probably

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Accurate enough until otherwise said

pliant ruin
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xeroc is the strongest character but noxus is more destructive

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it's the example i used way back then

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plaguebringer goliath

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by all means

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pbg is not stronger than like

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old duke

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nowhere near stronger than old duke

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however it's far more destructive

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because it spreads the plague n shit

split mortar
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Ah ok

spring helm
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“Is he stronger than you?”
“Good question. If it came to just destroying, Noxus might give me a bit of trouble.”
“But would you lose?”
“Nah, I’d win.”

hasty dragon
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I mean dog and the mechs are a complicated fight

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Imagine yharim

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Also why did he let yharon die

real silo
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yharon chose to fight us

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it was either yharim dies at our hands or yharon dies trying to stop us

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either way they won't see each other anymore

turbid wind
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so lore wise what are the elemental accessories

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like Heart of the Elements

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Do we actually kill Anahita or Brimstone Elemental or nah

spring helm
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Personally I headcanon it as the elementals lending us a hand after we beat them up

turbid wind
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"I may have destroyed an entire city, killed the entire population and caused some guy to become even crazier, but honestly killing bosses sounds fun"

spring helm
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I’m not sure if the elementals can die

hasty dragon
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I think

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It’s like how gems work in Steven universe

turbid wind
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Doesn't she have blood and gore when killed?

hasty dragon
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They take on a tangible form

spring helm
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If they can die then I’d be a little confused as to why some are still around considering Yharim’s army hunted them down after Azafure fell

sinful adder
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HotE probably isn't canon

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Elementals can't die unless literally all of their element is destroyed

spring helm
sinful adder
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It's not really like gems in Steven universe because they can also just have an arbitrary number of bodies, such as with the brimlings

spring helm
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The cloud elemental is part of a bigger one too

sinful adder
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HotE exists because fabsol wanted a harem

turbid wind
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valid lmao

pliant ruin
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the elementals don't really get killed i don't think

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like it's a bit hard to kill the thing that embodies all water

hasty dragon
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Guys imagine if calamitas had an evil cousin named serenitas

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Uses liquid nitrogen and ice cream salt to attack

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Wants to bring serenity to the world by freezing everything with her ice or nitrogen or idfk

dire sapphire
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That sounds like a great idea

fair pelican
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Is the art for xeroc pre ascension or post ascension?

eager bluff
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pre

hasty dragon
real silo
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placidity and who....

warm gull
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You look rather pale. Could be ataxia. It's quite a problem back home in Cyrodiil.

jaunty wraith
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Is the Daedalus storm bow made of cryonic bars like the rest of the Daedalus gear?

hasty dragon
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one of which no longer exists

jaunty wraith
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So no correlates

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Correlation

earnest flare
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hey guys did you know that dragonblood is a thing that exists apparently

plucky juniper
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i must understand calamity cosmology

earnest flare
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you didnt mention that the pillar planets are only visible when you're around the pillars

plucky juniper
magic epoch
plucky juniper
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but anyways i've been trying to comtemplate what in the heavens are the pillar enemies' place in calamity lore

earnest flare
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you can always contemplate worse things
like dragonblood

plucky juniper
#

hell, what are the other planets in the world of Terraria orbiting?

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or do they just sit still and the ball of Primordial Light just orbits everyone else

magic epoch
#

terraria is flat earth

earnest flare
#

terraria is flat just not in the way that flat earthers think the earth is flat

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by definition the entirety of the 2nd dimension is flat

stark basalt
sinful adder
earnest flare
plucky juniper
stark basalt
#

wdym how

plucky juniper
#

whats the fire ball on top

stark basalt
#

i just sat there and it happened fr

plucky juniper
#

LOL

stark basalt
#

aura

earnest flare
#

sir this is the wrong chat

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this is lore discussion

stark basalt
#

this is lore

earnest flare
#

infernum isnt canon

plucky juniper
#

infernum is not canon

earnest flare
#

🐌

plucky juniper
#

Wotg is _____________

stark basalt
#

😤

plucky juniper
#

cool pic tho

stark basalt
#

thanks

plucky juniper
#

anyways!

stark basalt
#

what about it

plucky juniper
#

see, the reason why im looking into how the fuck does calamity cosmology works is to figure out how to make a canonical explanation for why in the (extremely unlikely) event that astral infection is moved to post-ML, an astral infected meteor would randomly drop from space after you kill the Moon Lord

sinful adder
#

I highly doubt that will happen

plucky juniper
#

ik

sinful adder
#

but if you insist...

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the astral infection could be eating the moon lord's rotting corpse

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in the way that literal rot does

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the infection being the rot

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you could ditch the meteor and have it be fovos that falls to the ground

plucky juniper
#

i mean, I've personally even just thought of a different idea (Just make astral infection post-Aureus. make aureus instead a random wandering machine from space that came back to Terraria)

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aureus already can just somehow summon another astral meteor

stark basalt
#

there is no space

sinful adder
#

that would be weird

sinful adder
plucky juniper
#

i dont know how to explain it

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see, im just trying to get lore justifications for my insane ideas

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i must back them up

stark basalt
#

is everything unexplainable considered not canon or what

plucky juniper
#

well either way im tired

real silo
#

That throne ain't gonna fit provi

stark basalt
#

i killed it tho

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its my temple now

real silo
#

well you smell

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🚿

stark basalt
#

im coming after you

real silo
#

Yeah you're coming "after" me because I'm always first

sinful adder
#

Random idea: stuff from Enter the Gungeon would kinda fit in terraria, and to some extent in calamity, with how it's both wacky but also cool

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Like, I could totally see Statis going to the Gungeon to kill his past and stop them from losing to DoG

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Or the player inventing and crafting all the wacky guns in Gungeon

woeful patio
#

Never seen that from infernum

untold oracle
real silo
latent bolt
#

would DoG betray noxus if it suited his own interests and ego

sinful adder
real silo
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prototype railgun or smth it's called

sinful adder
#

Oh right, prototype railgun

#

Yeah, that

#

It's also kind similar to like

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Last prism

#

It's silly that Thanatos is also called

#

Thanos

#

Side note, Draedon calling the player both an unknown factor and a catalyst is inconsistent with the definition of catalyst

#

It is out of character for Draedon to use such a flawed metaphor

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A catalyst is something that does nothing indirectly but causes stuff to happen indirectly just by being there. The player is not a catalyst

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The player is a reagent. A direct part of the reaction, I think.

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Catalysts also aren't an unknown factor

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Lore writers please fix

split mortar
sinful adder
#

Anything can be an unknown factor in that case. This doesn't make the analogy any better

split mortar
#

I think draedon was using the catalyst example cause catalysts make it easier for change to happen and we were doing that, I do agree that reagent would be better but I imagine if there was a lore reason draedon accounted for the chance we don’t know what a reagent is

sinful adder
#

That could work, but it's still kind of weird

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Like, that doesn't make it a better analogy

#

A catalyst can cause a change, in a sense

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It just isn't altered or consumed in the process

#

In that regard, it vaguely makes sense to call the player a catalyst, but it does not make sense to equate that to an unknown factor

split mortar
#

Plus we are quite known when we fight Exo mechs so even my definition of unknown factor still wouldn’t work

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Unless we have something about us not even we know that is different but I don’t think there’s enough like that for it to be considered enough of a factor

sinful adder
#

Like I said...
Lore writers please fix

split mortar
#

Yeah

umbral forge
#

What's the distortion?

#

Like, at all?

#

Is it another planet, an alt universe, what is it?

woeful patio
#

Probably an alternate universe, who knows?thonk

split mortar
#

A alt universe with vastly different biology in it then the normal universe

sinful adder
#

It probably has darkness instead of primordial light

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So like, a magic black hole analogous thing in place of terraria's magic "primordial light" sun analog thing

split mortar
#

Primordial dark

sinful adder
split mortar
#

For what we know could cosmolite be a distortion version of auric? Both are among the strongest materials we know just that cosmolite is more bendable and doesn’t reject while auric is better in every other way

hasty dragon
#

Wait were all gods once human

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

I’ve heard silva wasn’t

fading sun
#

Or not humans

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Beings that consumed auric souls

hasty dragon
fading sun
#

Most presumably sentient

fading sun
hasty dragon
calm patio
#

the ritual

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

Do they just go up to a dragon and go

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

S U C C

fading sun
#

They have to kill the dragon first

hasty dragon
#

So they just go up to a dragon corpse and go S U C C

#
  • a ritual
fading sun
#

Idk if a ritual

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The ritual probably is either not that hard

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Or very very public knowledge

calm patio
#

yes only 3 people knows it

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yharim, xeroc and silva

fading sun
#

How tf

calm patio
#

and they wont tell you

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the other gods are killed off

fading sun
#

I heard that before

mighty zenith
fading sun
#

I meant overall

calm patio
#

wym by "overall"

fading sun
#

The ritual was known widely enough for there be a lot of gods

calm patio
#

yes

fading sun
calm patio
#

yharim*

mighty zenith
#

most gods ascended literal centuries ago

hasty dragon
#

“Hey zeratos let papa xeroc give you a hug” aww that’s so tho- S U C C

fading sun
#

Yeah

mighty zenith
#

he's been the only auric dragon for at least 100 years

calm patio
mighty zenith
#

most likely more

hasty dragon
#

Idk if this is old lore but

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Wasn’t providence a crystal

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That has sentience

calm patio
#

iirc yes

hasty dragon
#

Who absorbed a soul

mighty zenith
#

i think she was just a crystal that gained sentience and existed for like millenia

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and watched a war between hell and heaven or some shit

hasty dragon
#

I Headcanon the creatures in the distortion look like ultra beasts

fading sun
fading sun
hasty dragon
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“Welcome back devourer just in ti- HEY YOU BROUGHT YOUR COUSIN WITH YOU!”

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“I didn’t bring a cousin of any so- WAIT HOLLLD ON.”

fading sun
#

Whar

#

What is that supposed to mean

hasty dragon
fading sun
hasty dragon
#

Like digimon

hasty dragon
fading sun
#

Not really I don't know every single pokemon

hasty dragon
#

Oh but basically

fading sun
#

I haven't seen these like ever

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😭

hasty dragon
#

There is this category from Pokémon

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Called ultra beasts

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They are quite recent

mighty zenith
#

ultra beasts are awesome

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they're just pokemon if the designer were allowed to go wild and do whatever the fuck they felt like

hasty dragon
#

REAL

fading sun
hasty dragon
hasty dragon
mighty zenith
#

look at this silly creature

hasty dragon
#

They randomly pop into the world via “ultra wormholes”

mighty zenith
#

why is it small

fading sun
#

Looked up

mighty zenith
hasty dragon
#

Nice

mighty zenith
#

there

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silly creature

hasty dragon
fading sun
#

I personally doubt the distortion ppl are like that

#

All we see are teethy horrors more or less

#

Signus DoG

hasty dragon
#

My tiny silly

fading sun
#

Maybe storm weaver but he's not really teethy

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How would he even eat with those rigid teeth on the sides

hasty dragon
fading sun
#

He looks like an energy plug

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

Ye

fading sun
#

That doesn't look anything like anything we've seen from the distortion

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Everything from there has goofy vertical mouths

#

The only thing connecting that guy is his huge teeth

hasty dragon
#

I guess

umbral forge
hasty dragon
#

I have Pokémon brainrot so

#

I think the distortion would look like the distortion realm in Pokémon

#

Both distortions house giant evil worms

fading sun
#

The only thing similar is the name

fading sun
manic coral
#

Evil worms are cool

hasty dragon
#

Real

fading sun
#

Like could a worm be evil for? Eating??

manic coral
#

Jaywalking

fading sun
#

They can't walk and probably would burrow under the road

fading sun
#

Oh but that's like government property

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And you can't do that

#

Damn

mighty zenith
fading sun
random mulch
hasty dragon
#

Naked signus 😳

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

Who knows

hasty dragon
scenic olive
#

sigsus

fading sun
hasty dragon
#

Sigbussy

north wigeon
woeful patio
#

Draedon secretly contained Astralgeldon in his garageFallWithinMyCalculations

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And Summoner whipsboohoo

untold oracle
#

Speaking of Draedon, what exactly is he?

random mulch
#

robot

woeful patio
#

A sentient robot with possibly a past life

random mulch
#

6 century old sentient ai

mighty zenith
#

he's either a botched consciousness transfer into a machine or just an ai

untold oracle
mighty zenith
#

it's a possibility but we dont know for sure

untold oracle
#

Yeah

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An unknown factor

woeful patio
#

A catalyst

mighty zenith
north wigeon
frozen zodiac
#

does draedon watch over us the second we decrypt the first codebreaker schematic

untold oracle
#

He literally studies us and improves the mechs from that

stark basalt
split mortar
cosmic zenith
#

He can observe the player in more ways than just sending a recon body :p

torpid rover
#

I appreciate that it’s unclear if Draedon is going to be a problem in the near future or not. He repeatedly insists he has no motivation to screw up Terraria’s ecosystem further when asked, ||but also directly states he’s going to start carving up Terraria’s moon for resources now that the Moon Lord is toast||.

split mortar
#

Yeah, just not with recon bodies

split mortar
spring helm
#

i mean

#

as long as it stays up there it kinda doesnt matter what happens to it

split mortar
#

||Plus the sun is smaller then the world so it probably is not the only thing with gravity effecting the earth, if primordial light has gravity||

torpid rover
#

As far as I can tell, none of the people in Yharim’s retinue are telling the whole truth, except maybe Yharon who simply isn’t in the mood for more than lamenting how far Yharim has fallen.

pliant ruin
#

Yharon isn't very trusthworthy either

#

If anything he's

#

the least trustworthy, probably

split mortar
#

I don’t see why draedon would lie,aybe unknowingly not telling the truth

pliant ruin
#

Yeah Draedon dosen't have much of a reason to lie for the sake of lying

#

He absolutely can lie but he has no real reason to do so

torpid rover
#

Draedon seems like the kind of person who deliberately withholds information because “you might have said no”

split mortar
#

Plus we are among his most wanted specimens to learn about, lying could complicate that unnecessarily

wheat walrus
#

aaron yim

pliant ruin
#

If he were to destroy things for no reason, which he dosen't, he would have no reason to hide it from anyone

#

Nobody can stop him

#

omni no brainrot

#

bad!

split mortar
# pliant ruin Nobody can stop him

Except maybe xeroc, or yharim destroying mechs before they can fight sufficiently enough to win but even that is iffy and likely leads to yharim running out of energy and then getting nuked

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Best case scenario yharim stalls him for a bit

wheat walrus
#

I think Yharim would just use his yharring fist and yhorrible sword and destroy the exo mechs

#

high-extreme difficulty

torpid rover
# pliant ruin the least trustworthy, probably

The least trustworthy is the Devourer of Gods. That’s not his real name, that might not even be what he’s actually doing when he erases gods, we do not know where he comes from or what kind of matter he’s even made of, he was only working with Yharim for personal gain, and despite being a cosmic horror he can be damaged by small arms fire.

pliant ruin
#

Well yeah but excluding him

wheat walrus
#

I trust dog he's chill

pliant ruin
#

distortion guys are entire other bucket of worms

pliant ruin
#

but he couldn't beat draedon and i don't think anybody can

#

because

torpid rover
pliant ruin
#

well

#

you can't really

#

kill draedon

#

maybe xeroc. we don't know enough to really tell.

wheat walrus
#

anyways yeah

#

dog is not to be trusted lol

#

he's a massive fraud too

split mortar
#

Size doesn’t determine power, it’s known devourer isn’t its name, likely sends god essence to noxus in the distortion, he comes from the distortion and I assume matter itself isn’t different in either dimension since cosmolite is fine to work with

pliant ruin
#

dog is literally a fraud

#

by definition

wheat walrus
split mortar
wheat walrus
#

and also how he technically doesn't consume the gods he kills lol

pliant ruin
#

yeah he sends them to noxus

#

probably

wheat walrus
#

yeah likely

pliant ruin
#

safe to say he sends them to noxus

split mortar
#

Does that mean Noxus is doing like ascension ritual on the gods essence like gods did auric souls or something?

torpid rover
pliant ruin
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wheat walrus
#

but

pliant ruin
#

who knows what noxus is doing with all the god juice

torpid rover
wheat walrus
#

he devours them

pliant ruin
#

maybe he just really wants to eat a god flavoured milkshake or osmething

wheat walrus
#

maybe noxus is like xeno'jiiva monster hunter

#

accumulating a shitton of energy for its own growth

split mortar
#

Surprised dog never killed the wall of flesh to eat all that god essence it has

wheat walrus
#

except instead of elder dragons it's gods

torpid rover
torpid rover
split mortar
#

Still god essence

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

And a lot of it

split mortar
#

All but a bit of the gods that yharim killed before meeting dog is in wall, would certainly have enough to entice dog I think

torpid rover
#

Maybe it’s hidden from his senses by whatever magic requires the Guide to die to reveal it

split mortar
torpid rover
#

As in vanilla lore, what isn’t the Guide telling us?

split mortar
#

Probably things unneeded for our adventure

#

Though I would like to know

torpid rover
#

But he’ll joke about smoking Deathweed?

split mortar
#

Deathweed can make potions so maybe he is trying to get us to collect some for potions? Or maybe it’s just a joke that he didn’t think much of

torpid rover
#

The existence of the Golfer implies that at least some of the Calamity lore characters would play golf or at least vaguely understand the rules of golf.

scenic olive
#

god of golf

pliant ruin
#

Vanilla lore isn't real

#

made up by the government

torpid rover
#

Remember, most of these characters aren’t impossibly ancient. Calamitas is a young adult and former child soldier, most of the Calamity happened within the town NPCs lifetimes and is why they’re all scattered around the world.

split mortar
#

Is there cal lore for torch god?

pliant ruin
#

no

split mortar
#

Oh

#

:(

torpid rover
split mortar
#

So yeah

pliant ruin
#

yeah

#

silva

#

xeroc

#

probably permafrost

split mortar
#

I’m talking more about normal people

#

Cause the crusade is what a century old?

#

Must be some normal people past that age

pliant ruin
#

well permafrost is at the end of the day just a guy

torpid rover
pliant ruin
#

he's by all means just a normal person with no paranormal life extensions such as being a elemental or a god

#

so yeah

split mortar
#

Maybe magic can extend life but he certainly don’t have that type of magic

#

Maybe scal but not permafrost

pliant ruin
#

i doubt scal would have that too

#

maybe there's magic to extend one's life but none that we know of

#

and if that was the case i'd imagine it'd be pretty rare

torpid rover
#

The Tavern Keeper has no idea what’s going on due to being an Isekai victim

split mortar
#

She does have dark magics like brimstone, I don’t see it too far out the one able to ressurect from the dead (with debatable results) wouldn’t be able to lengthen one’s life (with questionable results)

pliant ruin
#

maybe?

#

but i feel like extending one's life wouldn't go to well for that matter yeah

#

and i doubt scal uh

split mortar
#

Probably end up like Ravager if done for too long

pliant ruin
#

would really wanna do that

torpid rover
#

So the Tax Collector was merely cursed with unending, agonizing half-life until purified, and not actually a dead petitioner in a hellish afterlife?

#

Because the Underworld isn’t a Hell, people used to live there

pliant ruin
#

he probably was cursed or something i dunno

#

not like it matters i'll put him back in hell anyways

split mortar
#

I heard some people say it was from brim v scal fight that cursed him

pliant ruin
#

maybee? i mean it's a interesting headcanon but like

#

as far as we know they weren't really

#

cursing people

#

they were

#

you know

#

💥

#

like brimstone magic is different from a curse i'd imagine

#

one is just . boom explosion fire 💥

#

the other one is

split mortar
#

The magic itself seems to do that though, aren’t many of the enemies just cursed souls of people?

pliant ruin
#

yk

#

a curse

#

well yeah but that's because

#

of the necromantic magic

#

which now that i think about it

#

right

#

there also was necromantic magic

torpid rover
split mortar
#

Pretty sure brimstone or necromantic is a submagic of the other with how closely intertwined they are

pliant ruin
#

I think they're separate

cosmic zenith
pliant ruin
#

it's just that cal uses both

languid badge
cosmic zenith
#

Permafrost is older than Yharim, in fact

torpid rover
cosmic zenith
#

Yharim is in his 130s

split mortar
#

Well she has the same powers as brim so yeah there def is necromancy being thrown about

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

yeah yharim is on his deathbed

#

literally

#

though this means perma probably won't last much longer either : (

languid badge
#

can we just sit arround for like a decade till yharim kicks the bucket

pliant ruin
#

we could do that

#

wait like 8 years and we aren't even gonna have to fight him he'll just have dropped dead himself

split mortar
#

Permafrost is chilling despite yharim being attuned and having Exo life support at a younger age

spring helm
#

magic

torpid rover