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Maybe when Signus dies the other one appears?
Cheese how do you find out this stuff
yharim has perfume sprayers on the outside of his armor to increase his charisma score
Real
well, you'd instantly get auric rejected and you'd like explode, assuming you aren't attuned
Signus is a edgy fairy got it
im chease
That makes sense
Also a cat I guess from your bio lmao
Just ask the lore writers for information
i would have thought just your arm would implode or does auric have so much force even if you do the slightest touch
mrau
I normally ask them about ants
I mean in game we take like 300 damage and get knocked back alot
so I imagine its just as harsh lore wise, if not more
Your the reason he won’t get to live
You cause the doomed gays
lol
Now kiss😈
Like I said I think we kill Signus and he will be free
braelor is goated
and noxus probably isn't gonna show up to kill braelor out of nowhere.
probably.
i hope not.
Braelor is strong as FUCK
why doesn't braelor just team up with calamitas and statis and the terrarian to kill yharim together
we don't know what the distortion like, but the average guy would die there in an instant methinks
the strongest thing we know of in the distortion besides noxus is like. the devourer
4 v 1 that guy
They tried to 2v1 Yharim
and i think the devourer could genuinely lose a fight to braelor
We gonna fight dog there
Almost won
WE GONNA FREE HIMMMMM
i don't think
Yes
it'd be a easy fight
What if he helps us
for EITHER of them
but i can genuinely see braelor defeating dog in a fight
and for that alone
i don't think dog would charge in willy nilly
if braelor locked in he could win
he knows that guy's strong as hell
Braelor is on another tier of strength
so if he ever wants to kill him he'll plan a ambush or something
cheap bastard
like both braelor and dog know they're strong as hell and both could kill eachother
so i think
If the terrarian can beat him by themselves then surely having braelor and statis and calamitas there to help would just make it easier
until the terrarian eventually kills dog
We are fighting dog and Brealor comes out and just one shots “my husband needs me~” and leaves lmao
Yharim is like the only boss with canon reasons for dealing damage contact damage I think
they'd probably be constantly on the look for eachother
Becomes the strongest cuz gay
constantly paranoid over where that mf worm and where that mf gay are
ok new headcanon time. thanks cheese you're so cool.
i mean, most of the worms have some form of spikes on them
anyways i now headcanon that braelor and devourer are Bitter Enemies constantly paranoid about eachother's presence within the distortion
Any lore reason we can recognition bosses?
also jeesh 300 contact damage sounds really harsh unless yharim is smaller than the average boss
True, guess those aswell
DoG is a bitch but I hope he has enough respect to not just kill braelor while hes sleeping
We don’t with the mech bosses
like both of them could reasonably kill eachother and i assume they're both smart enough to like
We name them horribly
not charge in willy nilly knowing they could die
Oh hey what if it’s Dreadon clones that you fight after killing then the first time
okay but Spazmatism and Retinazer are cool names tho
Boss refights arent canon in most cases
mechs included
I know but fun idea
Yeah, but we did name them generally as “the twins” which ain’t creative
The only boss refights that r canon r the ones that are LIKE
either a species
like dragonfolly or fishron
or ones that you literally can canonically rematch
like calamitas
seems like theres multiple king slimes and eocs
Or exi mecjs probably
nope
Calamitas refights likely like training
exo mechs are destroyed after the first fight
Asking her to help you get stronger
would take years to remake them
a rly long time
to rebuild them
yeah
you COULD refight them
but it'd take years
and by then i imagine draedon would just
make something stronger
same with yharon, you could refight him if you wait a decade
I like my ideas Dreadon just cloning everyone after they die and that’s what you fight in refights
Not a decade, a good few centuries
yharon showing up 10 years later when yharim's dead and everyone's enjoying life
look at little tim tim, sleeping so soundly
yeah if draedon ever does remake exo mechs, he'd make considerable improvements, using data from the fight versus the terrarian
what if yharim actually got strong enough and killed xeroc and somehow killed silva
What would he do then
rest on his laurels more then he already is
if he theoretically did that he'd probably be like
the lich from adventure time
in F&C
Sleep happy
multiversal threat?
Off topic but is the rework for the fuckinnnnnnn
no fiona and cake spoilers please!!
Mursma
Im gonna watch that show soon
I think the only way to kill an elemental is to destroy the planet if I could remember
Is that out yet?
I'M SORRY 😭
Simple, become the ultimate bee furry he already is
its fine lol
is there any traces of the multiverse in calamity
I have but not fiona and cake
||in fionna and cake the lich manages to succesfully kill EVERYONE in one of the alternate universes the protagonists go to||
My favorite show as a kid
||and then he's like||
please no but i could see yharim abusing the distortion to brute force his way to other dimensions
||"now what"||
||like he's just kind of depressed||
yes, the lich. that one
anyways
Yes, the distortion is a alternate universe or dimension
the lich that turned princess bubblegum into a midget?
it's still within our universe
Is the murasma rework out?
it's not a full on alternate reality
nope
||Isn’t it the og timeline though?||
Oh thought it was
yeah
it got a tier shift and slight rework a bit ago, but is getting a much bigger one soon
Yeah
i think if yharim killed every single god he'd just lose purpose of his life since as the devs themselves have said at this point the crusade is his life
so he'd just like
adventure time is a post-post apocalypse which is such a fun setting
I will either be here again tomorrow
sit there until he dies of old age which probably would happen soon anyways
Or I won’t be seen for 3 more months lmao
Alright, by then hope you read the lore doc
Goodbye thegalaxyvoid
Nice to meet y’all :D
I will eat more in edible things
💪💪💪
🗿
Yo cheese
I find aureus extremely irritating
ravager rework will be so fire
Yeah
hopefully, anyways
i wanna get to astrum deus again just for the music i fucking love when an area uses leitmotifs of itself for its bosses
Oddly enough I think signus doesn't need a rework as much as it needs higher stats
Yharon, like I am so tired of fighting DoG and I have to fight another hard boss, also I like post Yharon because you can choose 2 bosses to fight
its issue is just that it dies before you need to learn the attacks well
maybe some reworks to attacks ofc
what attacks does signus even have besides dash
I think that’s just an issue of the sentinels being basically fancy mini bosses in stats
From when they were sentinels of the devourer
honestly storm weaver still gives me a somewhat hard time
second try as opposed to first try CV and signus
I think the time of kos bosses should prob be buffed a bit
Bring back Yharon health fakeout
YES
the distortion trio are such underwhelming fights
Yeah
I think they’ll be changed up when we get the distortion update
you see theres this cool mod called infernum 
I love Infernum lore Cutscene 
I can kinda understand cv being underwhelming since it’s a spell from the dead lunatic cultist attacking us but then shouldn’t it be retired to lower?
a tier shift could work, CV and polterghast being liek right next to eachother in progression is odd
much dungeon
Where could we put cv? Pre cultist with the other like seven pre cultist bosses?
Yeah
Maybe an explanation for why the spell is so strong then
So it can stay that tier
There have been times aswell where one area gets a lot of bosses suddenly
Plantera, golem plagues
All jungle
no
Dungeon 3
I’m watching ratatouille
What are the lore implications of this
I wonder what happens if we are 1% auric soul, like we ate one of the Yharon soul fragment
The terrarian is being controlled by a ratatouille
Ratatouille the remy
Anyone have any cool lore
Permafrost pretty cool
True
Dude froze 1/4 of the surface continent just for his the magic spell to last longer
what if yharim is hiding behind a tree this entire time instead of other dimension or something
no hes in your walls
nuh-uh, the tundra was already like that before he was there, he just added some extra ice magic on top of the ice magic that was already there
nah the terrarian has schizophrenia and is hearing yharim from his voices (yharim is long dead)
caldevs should give plantera cooler lore iirc

this means nothing until proven !!!!
Yeooooo
me when the vernal pass
i wished the sprites that got submitted for vernal pass were used immediately cuz they're so nice
but it's better to ship one whole vernal pass update
hes actually the guide in disguise
insert scooby doo unmasking villains
It would be... Interesting if the player finally gets to the Dragon Arie, and yharim is just dead
Yhargon
Like maybe there stop being lore messages partway through the game signifying that yharim died
Yhargone
Finally i can steal his armor
no longer rocking discount auric
what happen if i wear his auric on top of my auric armor
In his place
Some other guy, idk
do i get rejected
I bet you shouldn't
cal lore chat group playthrough when?
The real loophole
you lore chatters seem fun
the astral meteor could have crashed at another continent. but somehow it always crashes at the terrarian continent
It's unfortunate to not use them, yeah
But we do have great plans for the Vernal Pass
I already wanted to rebuild the place... but now that's just part of the glowup it'll get
please don't put rope in the new one 🙏
my bad wheres the vernal pass?
Hey, you can just remove it :p
In the Jungle
where's the jungle
Check under your pillow
I sleep on the sidewalk with no cushions or pillows
I have a house but I choose to live this way
It makes the body stronger
Check under your nose
I cut my nose off to allow smells to touch my olfactory nerves easier
It's just a big lump of meat that gets in the way of fast smelling
not optimal whatsoever
Check under your feet
red skull is that you
how long do you wanna do this dance old man
I'm blind and deaf and don't have any nerves in my skin
Good then
It's toggleable
Use your memory to cut off the skin on the chest and left arm
You won't feel pain
Because, as you said
No nerves
I don't have a memory
every behavior I make is genetic instinct
I am genetically predisposed to spite you
what's your name big man
daichin
1233popcorn
Hi lorers
Hello
Do you think the lore will change for the new DoG resprite?
Idk what would change, really
Well what's already in game won't be changed
very true
This guys beefing with people for no reason
He do be
lowkey dont like em
i dont trust his opinions
He's kinda annoying
too high ego feels like
It seems like it
The one time the mods aren’t around lol
hes been here for a while
always active at these times
thats why i just stick to addon talk
Feel that
Only about 8 days
I’ve been in lore chat for months now
i barely talk here lel
I've been avoiding chatting because usually when you're new you either get ignored or beef
just come to cat if u wanna ask anything abt the game
cat meow
ppl there are actually helpful
real
true i like cat chat
mhm
lore discussion is the gateway drug to the deeper community
This is just a big group chat
lore discussion is a gateway drug to the larger community
alternatively you can take a route through catacord if you know how to do it
and if you REALLY know how to do it and have the balls you can go through calart
I hope we get lore to explain the blood moon and solar eclipse
I imagine that magic from Fovos or the moon or something might block out the primordial light and make a dark counterpart of Xeroc's projections, bringing the world's imagined fears to life
This is sort of similar to the idea of deltarune's darkness = fantasy and light = reality thing?
Maybe the boundary between light and dark (both kinds of eclipses are related to shadows and the edges of shadows being projected onto the earth in different ways) brings the boundary of existence and non-existence (things that could be, or ideas) into the world
Actually...
In a solar eclipse, the moon's shadow is projected onto the earth. This can relate to the moon lord, who's name is literally an ancient word for fear and dread. He could be bringing fears to life.
In a lunar eclipse, the edge of the earth's shadow shines on the moon. This could relate to death and gore, the earth's darkness, being brought to life or illuminated by the moon, or blocking out the sun's light reflected off the moon
Lore people, what do you think of this
To summarize Fovos being fear incarnate and related to the moon makes solar eclipses make sense, as fear is blocking out the primordial light, which might be, like, the source of reality itself.
The same reasoning being twisted around works for blood moons too.
Maybe lunar eclipse enemies are powered by PL
Lunar eclipse is the blood moon
Doesnt Yharim say that the blood moon has been around long long before any gods
Anyways, I think it makes more sense if they're not powered by PL, but instead created by a complete absence of PL
Yes, and that's fine
The sun (primordial light) is older than the gods
Primordial light is a fundamental elemental-ish thing relating to reality itself or something, in calamity
So it's absence, darkness, seems important
And indeed, an entire alternate world exists ruled by such a primordial darkness
Perhaps Fovos is connected to this darkness, or the moon is, or both are.
id say this is a pretty reasonable conclusion then
But also for some reason different than auric souls which are embodiments of an aspect of the world that are tied to other living beings that have their own identity
too confusing id need a diagram
No, because the empress of light is a regular creature not made of light, but wields primordial light.
Uh
Elementals are a living form of the thing they have power over
sick i get it now
Auric dragons and gods are regular living beings that also have power over stuff, but aren't necessarily made of that stuff
They also have power over that stuff for a seemingly unrelated reason to elementals
Because there can be a dragon and elemental of the same thing at the same time
Yeah. God of primordial light specifically, which is a special kind of light
The sun is a giant ball of primordial light in calamity
xerocs cool af
Ok why is Brimmy so much weaker than Scal
brimmy dont got that swagger
Brimmy used to be equally as strong as Scal
But got beat up
Scal ate all of brimmy's fingers
We also don't know why Scal has her powers, but we know that for some reason, somehow, she inherited powers that activated suddenly when the brimstone elemental awoke
It's like she's part elemental
i remember that
Hmm. A thought...
There can be an auric soul of something and an elemental of that thing. We know this because Silva was an elemental before becoming a god, and kept the same domain.
Maybe Calamitas somehow inherited the Auric soul of Brimstone?
So she's either a demigod or an auric human, a human that somehow gained an original auric soul, not fused with one
I think I heard somewhere that the auric soul equivalent to brimmy is the auric soul of flame
isnt that just providence
Ah, ok
Still. Something unusual had to happen for Calamitas to have her power
Something very rare, relating to the brimstone elemental and her parents being dead, and something that never happened anywhere else that we know of
shes uses the behelith that her parents gave her
We know elementals are powerful, but no other elemental is even close to as powerful as calamitas, and by extension the power the Brimstone elemental must have once had
I mean, think about it, of all the other normal elementals, the strongest one is only as strong as the average god (about halfway between slime god and providence), that being anahita. The sand and storm elementals are split into many weaker bodies, but even combined, I don't think they can be as strong as that.
I feel like
Anahita isnt really that strong
shes getting carried by leviathan
Alone
Anahita probably is as strong as all cloud elemental combined
There is 1 cloud elemental
No because they spawn naturally multiple times
Also yeah true
no there is one
Unless you mean in the sense that all the cloud elementals are the same one's infinite bodies they can make and they just don't die
Which is basically true
anahita also spawns naturally mutiple times
Yes, but the multiple elementals thing was confirmed by a dev somewhere and also in the bestiary indirectly, I think?
The elementals split themselves (the brimlings are part of the Brimstone elemental)
No the devs have said there aren't any more elementals than the ones we've seen, and we've seen one for each element: earth (sand), air (cloud), water, fire (brimstone), and nature/life which is silva
yeah that's what I said
but she split into smaller bodies
There is one of each elemental in the sense that all the elementals we see are the same being, but there are multiple in the sense that the elementals make an arbitrary number of bodies that are all them, as proven by the brimlings
Thats what I was saying
shes still the same elemental
It's ok, just think of them:
real
Holy shit is that azafuretaker
If Azafure was where all the brimstone crags are now, what were the obsidian towers outside that area? There's a gap between them and Azafure, were they like... The city suburbs?
this would be funny if I got the joke and then thought it was funny when I knew what it meant
We also don't know what demons are
But we know brimstone magic fucked up the tax collector when Azafure fell
Maybe demons are azafurians that got fucked up by brimstone magic but didn't die
I think obsidian towers were built by demons
And demons themselves are more simple tribal creatures
just because they don't dress like us or speak our language and hurl devilish magic scythes at us doesn't mean they're simple and tribal throudon
get with the times
good morning lorers
good morning cheese
Good morning cheese
Is Distortion dimension pure void ?
we don't know what it's like currently
the distortion is probably not completely emty considering it's meant to be a large part of post-ML exploration
and draedon collected a lot of samples of inorganic material from there
116 i think
which were probably things like rock
so not super empty, at least in some places
Maybe there are some islands or something
Something to stand on
lore nerds utterly annihilate this human being
Those feel like memes that very new calamity fans make
Honestly I would have wanted the old sprite to be just retextured
Sorry but old design is not good
Well yeeeeah ig
old design is incomprehensible
(Notice that I said design, not sprite. Sprite isn't good either, but design is my point here)
I like the model/shape of the old one more
Probably not
Considers its name
I can imagine that it's some kind of twisted reality that might be similar to Terraria, but is, well, distorted
literally me
isn't that line about how the Terrarian will ascend beyond Yharim's control
yes
that's why I said "lore nerds annihilate this guy"
ah makes sense
i expect distortion will be a chaotic purplish rocky realm
dragon aerie less sure but probably a fiery yellow realm
i imagine dragon aerie to just be like
a peaceful forest type thing
unlike distortion as far as i'm concerned it's not a full blown like biome with enemies and stuff its more or less just a glorified boss arena so
new yharon is honestly just
current yharon's design but modernized tbh
like it's still got the same basic ideas but without the weird shit thrown into it like the purple shackles, random green blobs and weird yellow chitin (?) on the wings and tail
like beyond the head shape and the removal of the weird crap it's more or less just a modernized version of the same design
it's a redesign yeah but it's one that's pretty faithful to the original all things considered
I always look at it quickly and cannot stop thinking it’s corn
Yeah it’s prob gonna be very good with all the animations
I'm pretty sure the yellow stuff is supposed to be auric wing pads
Ah uh tail armor ig
Idk why he'd need tail armor
it looks more like bread
This description matches Florida
oh yeah maybe idk
it's literally just a remaster though I don't see your point
would you rather he be updated but also still look like fried chicken with some food coloring on it
I mean I was basing that assumption off of the resprite
Since the placement matches
Yeah ik, im just making fun of the old sprite
actually now that i look at the sprite
yeah no wonder it's in wing anim hell
wing anims are hard enough tiny
yharon is HUGE
me bringing Yharim to distortion to trap his ass there
The jungle chicken
eventually yharim stopped thinking ending
summoning jungle nuggets
Yummers
not to be confused with the profaned nuggets
Blasphemous donut
Supreme Calamari
imma catch some Giant Squid and see if she can make some
Yeah I think I see now
I just generally am okay with all the sprites that are in game rn
But I read what yall said and I see Yharon’s design doesn’t really make sense
now that i look at it i have no idea why i didn't spot the purple on him
why does he have purple??
bro why he ourple
Hello
What was Silva the god of?
life
Thanks
calamarous
Oh! That's why the abyss is so full of life despite being the most hostile area on the map
yes indeed
i wish Slime God is like a recurring boss that you can fight in all 3 phase of the game
Slimegod turns into Goozma
pre hm as slime god, hm as queen slime, and lastly distortion slime god in post ml
kinda like mr x from resident evil
That would be interesting
I lowkey wish that they’d make slimegod like that now
Imagine the lore items
Yharim realizing that the god isn’t nearly as weak as he thought
haha random pixel art go brrrr
i see the beheaded from dead cells
i should try my hand at making a DoG
Good luck
something like mandibles might stay but i wanna experiment with them first
so they arent just there for the sake of big worm with mandibles
hey, just a quick question...is there any eldrich horror in the lore..?
uhh yeah
a few
depends on your definition but i'd say basically anything to do with the distortion counts
and the evil biomes
and wall of flesh
there's a potential world ending threat sending beings that dont follow our own biology from a realm that almost noone has seen
evil biomes and wall of flesh not as much but
distortion stuff yeah 100%
also moon lord
yeah i was gonna say moon lord
does astral infection count
i feel like it counts
like there's alot of things you could arguably classify as eldritch horrors in the mod's narrative
the version of Eldritch I'm asking about is like, Elder gods and Outer gods, things like the Astral virus/parasite
the astral infection is there i guess
The most eldritch horror-y thing in calamity imo is 100% the distortion
if we're talking gods
then the closest is probably just
evil biomes
the definition of eldritch horror in my head is a little different to what most people do
but they're not really as eldritch horror-y imo because
the wildlife being twisted into servants of the infection that killed them in the first place is a bit spooky i guess
they're definitely scary yeah but they're
wait, how is the evil biomes Eldritch?
pretty easy to understand all things considered
at this point i'd not be surprised if people just got used to them
like they're not super incomprehensible
they're just kinda scary and dangerous
well i mean
evil god corpse biome that turns you into a fucked up flesh monster is pretty eldritch horror like i feel
the remnants of dead gods turning into a landscape of flesh that constantly spit out monsters is weird
its just that since its been here for like
a while
and it's relatively easy to avoid
i feel like it's not as much
mainly due to lacking the unknown factor
wait wait wait...the biomes...are CORPSES OF DEAD GODS?!?
yharim killed some gods, didnt dispose of them and they grew
yharim fucks everything up numero 300
hallowed is the remnants of benevolent gods
to me eldritch horror is something utterly incomprehensible to people. Something that would drive you mad from seeing it, not because it has some weird magic that automatically drives you insane, but because understanding it forces your worldview to widen and change so much that you appear insane to normal people
like if an ant somehow figured out nuclear physics and tried teaching it to other ants
evil biomes are
well
self explanatory
evil gods
hallow is benevolent/good gods
that yharim packed away inside the wof to serve his propaganda
that gods = evil
tbf he packed away the essences of some other evil gods too
yeah but i think
wtf!? how did...why...just...Why isn't there a revisit to the Evil biomes where you have to slay the now bubbling and surfacing remnants of the Evil gods?!?
the fact he packed all of the hallow
it's just that the first gods he killed were all evil
and only some of the evil biomes
true but he leaves some evil stuff behind for his purposes too
to me
yeah
like
it probably wasn't intentional but retroactively
it works super well with yharim's character
that would be the perforators and the hive mind
yeah i've said this before but everything falls into place rather nicely
yeah hive mind and perforators are that
they're the most concentrated remains of the Dead Gods
about as exciting and impactful as a wet fart
yeah, I get that, but why not add something for Hardmode or post-moonlord?
cuz calamity progression is wacky
i heard they plan to move evil 2 bosses to hardmode though maybe so that'd be cool
i imagine that after the WoF was created, Yharim had the option of cleaning up the evil biomes to lock away the remaining essences along side what was already in the WoF, but didn't because it suited his agenda
but then that'd mean there'd only be like 3 pre hardmode bosses which is unfortunate
calamity boss bloat 😔
yeah this
he cleaned some of it
so it's not as much of a issue
but he let a little bit stay
cuz muh propaganda
Yhapaganda
That's a very "maybe"
bros just yhapping throughout your playthrough
fair enough
no, I mean like ADDING two new bosses for the Evil biome, solely focused on stronger and now more concentrated versions of the Evil gods, since they got unsealed from WoF
lorewise? who cares abt some god corpses when you're out here slaying living gods
gameplay wise? according to the devs you don't necessarily have to revisit the old biomes in a new stage
sadge
too many bosses already
though i will say
mmmm
idk if i fully agree with that second thingy
like some biomes should def have more content suited for certain stages
but having like
i don't either
which is why i cited their words
if you stumble upon the biome it's just
not mine
empty
i do hope some rework comes to the evil and hallow biomes
i feel like more should change with the addition of more essence added to the biomes after breaking WoF than just the biomes expanding
like yeah its fair that you don't want TOO much, say, idk, post ml desert content per example (random example)
but you also shouldn't have
no post ml desert content
triangle, a prolific terraria and cal spriter, has been trying to push back the evil2 bosses for a while now
yeah, Biomes are meant to have things to come back to, either just to stare at or to farm for
cuz it just makes the world feel dead
well
post ml isn't really that packed
wait
nvm
misread my bad yeah
it has alot of bosses
it just lacks on like
everything else
Post-ml has quite literally EVERYTHING packed in it
Saying this is INSANE
There are at least 5 new enemies in Evil Biomes after WoF
i meant more like
the thing that mainly changes is the underground
environmental change
rookie numbers
yeah i like how in vanilla hm is a complete step up in difficulty and content for basically every corner of the map
And half of Early HM is Evil Biome drops
post ml in cal is like 5 new enemies
and acid rain tier 3 that one is cool
only one post ml event isnt doing it any favours though
I know this isn't our job so don't expect it
wish we'd see an event in a Calamity biome, I don't care which
a new Event
Like, I must always remind people that Cal already has enough things that need improvement that we just can't go and fix all Vanilla problems on top of it
given we have one
i mean
the subject at hand here isn't a vanilla issue
i'm sure that we'll get more content for post ml eventually tho
And also the thing of "All Biomes get amped after HM" is kind of not real
i hope that when all the new content is done that the rework train doesn't stop there
and everyone doesn't just throw up their hands and quit development
it's mostly real
Evil Biomes and Jungle get stuff
well
doesn't have to be much but it's there
all of them except like
granite biome
and uhhh
i don't know, ocean?
but like. it's the ocean
granite and marble are just never cared about xd
Actually Underground and Tundra also get plenty of significant things
go to thorium for that one
basically every biome does
I'm mainly praying for something like an Astral biome Event...or maybe just a slight rework that will finally leave my tundra biome in peace
reb i'm sorry but like literally almost every biome gets atleast 1 new enemy
and that's a minimum
That's not meaningful content in the slightlest
7/11 biomes get at least something
cal legitimately barely adds any content to non-cal biomes let alone during post ml
as i said
it's completely reasonable for
some aspects of the game or biomes to not be the focus at any given point
desert has great sand shrak
but not having basically anything or a incredibly low amount of new content just makes the world feel
well
dead
Look, I agree that other Biomes could get some stuff, but I believe it's much more important to add content with actual substance instead of "have this enemy that does nothing except exist and you're never finding it unless you actively search for it"
well but does it hurt anybody
Yes, it does
We are spending time that could be spent adding much more important content
oh yeah no, fit it in when you got time, just please add something when you do find time for it ;-; I beg of thee
also note to self: cover ass before making statements
Well of course there's priorities
Imagine if instead of reworking the Sunken Sea we were adding the Really Big Rock Golem to the Underground after Moon Lord?
tbh maybe some biomes just, dont need more content in HM and/or Post ML
like im fine with the forest being almost always safe, apart from the sunken sea the desert doesn't do that much for the story
and delay new biome expainsion and fun times? nooooooooooooooooooooooooh
like we got slab crab last update
couldn't we just get things like that but for other biomes
it's most likely going to be post-final superboss and final cal biome overhaul in terms of priorities
and from what i've seen alot of work in cal is put into like weapons and stuff
i could be entirely wrong
yeah, that seems fair
at least this isnt a minecraft mob vote situation am i right HAHA, HA
but if it is the case i personally think that weapons and such could be a little less prioritized
If we add 1 new enemy per biome, that'd be at least 15 new enemies. Sunken Sea is adding more or less 20, and you can see how long it takes to do that
well i didn't say to add them all at once did i
again slab crab was just like
a little guy
in a single update
could just do that but for other biomes
add one or two new guys there from time to time
You didn't, I'm just saying that it's not work that we could do with the snap of our fingers, specially because unlike weapons, which we are reworking, we'd be adding enemies
I'm aware yall fcant
manifest stuff into existence
but like
this has been a thing in calamity for basically its entire lifespan
so it's not like
can't wait for my great grandkids to discover the Scrimblo Scrunkly in the granite biome after being instructed on how to beat Yharim by their grandfather
anybody is rushing you to add more enemies or whatever
plus i'm not a programmer but i think
depending on the enemy itself
it's probably easier to add a enemy than rework a weapon
atleast on the programming side of things
i could ask aza idk
this...I..I realize now, I'll be in a nursing home, lan playing with like 10 other people on a single Calamity playthough
you have to think what the enemy adds to that biome too, don't want a glow squid situation where they don't do basically anything or worse could be easily replaced by another material if they drop something
Depends, specially when you consider that these things are entirely different fields and some people just don't know how to code enemies, specially because you have to remember standards are becoming high enough that we can't just chuck in Fighter AI and be done with it
Not complaining about the second half tho, I'm all in for enemies to actually Exist
But you have to consider that someone would need to learn it all, and sometimes they just don't want to
This isn't as much of a problem in terraria i don't think
Because minecraft not only has much fewer mobs
but has alot more mobs that r just ambient
my original joke was my grandkids finally seeing Yharim release lol
that takes more or less the same amount of waiting time as waiting for one of these lil guys to be added
I know, thats what I was joking about aswell
Yeah, Terraria can just add shit for the sake of it because if an enemy literally only exists for one drop that's fine by me
Like, Red Devils
They literally only exist to drop one weapon and be a pain in the ass
But it's fine
Flame Feather....?
Multiple enemies drop those
i still dont get why the rune wizard has the highest non boss contact damage in vanilla
i think the ice biome guys from hardmode are cool
real talk i forget they exist in vanilla because i never went back to the underworld in my vanilla playthrough
wait for real?
they have infinity dev time over the span of 10 years and also work on this shit full time
they can prolly afford to goof around
they're a fun concept that fits nicely in tthe biome (unlike some other calamity enemies) and also fit well with the mod's lore simultaneously
And then they add ONE DROP TO IT 🔥
it'd be cool if they got resprites given they're
pretty dated
well ice claspers got one
and they're really cool looking now
so those are fine
I mean in Vanilla
it's mostly just the cryons and aurora spirits or whatever they're called
oh the vanilla ice b iome guys
yeah they
"Oh yeah what if we make several Ice Biome enemies and then give all of them ONE DROP?"
"For ONE CLASS????"
have some strange loot
frozen turtle shell is neat but then like
all of the others basically only drop ice staff
and sickle
tbf calamity makes atleast two of them drop essence of eleum so that's atleast a plus
i rly like the calamity hardmode ice biome guys they're one of the only instances of new vanilla biome enemies in calamity that imo are executed well
again they simultaneously fit with the mod's lore and don't feel out of place in their biomes like
profaned enemies or plague enemies
i'm a big fan of them, even if their sprites are really old and dated
oh, I also had to as since I've been playing to much Calamity and now have accumulated a small number of these....What IS the Rock?
random pebble from the dragon's aerie
oh yeah profaned and plague enemies certainly Exist
i think melee already has enough fucking weapons and the other classes should get more
xeroc just kinda kept it
super duper important
I do have to say that I don't enjoy the mentality that every Biome should be relevant at all points in progression
That's what I call Jungle Syndrome
what was the devs' reasoning on not doing a Plagued Jungle mini biome again
you will need it to reach yharim
I don't think they should
Not all biomes need to be relevant
some def should have like
points of the game they're most prevalent in
just not worth the hassle? or
but i also don't think most biomes (save for some of the shitty minibiomes and stuff nobody cares about) should have like
no or barely any content at any given point
To be honest the entire point of those two is that they are an aggressive takeover
yeah but they still feel really out of place
i think
profaned enemies would work better
if they just
Yeah, that's
spawned everywhere
The point 
Plague Enemies ARE out of place
plague enemies would fit better if there was any visual indication on the enviroment itself of the plague
like
maybe small patches of plague blocks here and there
i feel like profaned enemies could just do with staying in hell
might as well technically count as spicing up the underworld
Y'know what this is pretty much the easiest way of doing the "Plague Biome"
providence gotta be dumb as a box of bricks honestly
sis watched us kill moon lord, the being that caused the end of the dragons (and she knows very well how strong they were), kill her guardians, and then thinks
"yeah i got this i can take them"
idk it feels strange for provi guys to only be in the underworld
given
narratively
they're like
a globally distributed cult
shouldn't they just be like
everywhere
the fuckers keep bugging me everywhere underground for no reason
uh, Plagued jungle biome sounds like it might spread, and that is a no go for me. My current existing world, in which I've punked nameless in, has Jungle spread around because of an accidentally biome cleansing, so some of my Mushroom biomes are mini jungles, adding mini plagues to that is just...bad
no spreading biomes no spreading biomews NO SPREADING BIOMES
It's better to focus your conquer efforts on one place, tho
NO SPREADING BIO
I HATE THE HALLOW SPAWNING IN THE JUNGLE WHEN THE INFECTION DOESNT FUCKING WORK THERE
they already disabled astral biome spread to my knowledge
If we have a Plague Minibiome, it's not spreading
yeah astral dosen't spread
spreading biomes is mindnumbingly bad and boring to try and tackle
hallow should never and i mean NEVER spawn on the jungle side i swear to god
I don't think there is a single person in the entire world who likes spreading biomes
Damn
literally every other major biome can be infected by now EXCEPT THE HALLOW AND JUNGLE TOGETHER
they're fucked in the head
and it somehow happens repeatedly to me
Cool, but the Astral already screws me over in EVERY WORLD I MAKE, by landing in the Tundra each time
this is where you whip out the clentaminator
and because they DON'T SPREAD
you spray it once and it's gone forever
yeah, and Lose access to my Astral pillar?
thats the word
just place it elsewhere
p sure fargos just has begone evil as a toggle xd
what if there was just a post cal final boss tool that cleanses the entire world
they are called Biome bombs, and thats what lead to parts of my world being Jungle
huh
they don't even mix properly like the snow biome
how it feels to spread evil biomes through my jungle
finally... someone who shares my hobby
I don't even use a ckentaminator
As soon as hardmode starts I grab all the ebonsand I've been saving and place it sporadically through the jungle to relax
When I start hardmode, I leave the game open until the next day to let the hallow and evils spread throughout
when i start hardmode i kill yharim
when i start hardmode my game crashes because i forget to do the fix for that bug :(
when i start hardmode this playthrough im booking it to the jungle to see if i got fucked over by the hallow again
When I go into hardmode I don’t care for the evil biome spread and just play the game
Normally stays in control enough I don’t need to clean it
When I start hardmode, first thing I do is buy 4000 bombs from the demolitionist and barricade the evil AND the hallow
The purity shall reign!
(Astral infection can stay.)
working on my own DoG so here's some early rambling with no labels
true
my idea for the mandibles is that they're designed to lunge forwards and either stab the opponent with the front facing tooth or crush it between the mandibles
What's begone evil?
mod that disables biome spread
Sounds pretty fair. He is a god-eating beast, makes sense for him to use what he has
DAmn
Literally the only qol mod i use because biome spread is a forsaken evil stupid game mechanic that i want to blow up
everything else is ok.
the mandibles are also designed to fit into weird grooves on DoG's head to hide how long they actually are
Sounds cool, but I actually like blocking off the evil and hallow
I like building a connection with my worlds
My infernum character has over a hundred hours and still hasn't even beaten Anahita & the Leviathan
Yeah, I like to chill.
Focusing on building is how I spend my time
My hallow village :D
(Princess hasn't moved in yet)
squid hunting strategy
i'm gonna keep some of the things phase 1 has like the spine (though i'm making it less pronounced)
also, mandible structure
Oh dude i just realised why the sunken sea is bellow dessert
cause it used to be a sea creature
Yeah it was an ocean but Calamitas was ordered to pretty much get rid of it. She did so making above a desert and what she didn’t hit was the sunken sea
the surface desert wasn't sunken sea
like
that part was always a desert
but the underground desert (most of it anyways) yeah
Invoked stargod

My theory is that astral is a form of a supermatter
its a very stable form of mana that is formed by dying stars
Is providence a goddess in the way they are a "yharim will kill you on sight" auric type goddess or are they called a goddess just as a title of power
auric
what abput slime god
What if ascending basically springlocked xeroc's mask to his face and he can't remove it because it's part of his face now
Apart from deus all gods are the actual definition of the cal god, auric soul suck
Like strange matter?
yeah but its mana
