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I think something like berserker armor would be cool
Guilt and regret of his comrades leaving him wouldn't do anything about this fighting capability
Plus, unlike Asgore
he wants this fight
he's actively encouraging you to reach him
i see consider my statement withdrawn
He is and has alwasy been a warrior at heart
Does he do anything to try to recruit you?
I felt like he still sees you as a potential heir
And despite wanting us to go on this path he probably would like to get a good punch on the person that killed yharon
imo when you have a pet auric dragon you're already scary
It would be cool to see him trying to convince you to join him at the start of the fight
i think we would decline anyway doesnt really seem fit for the terrarian
i mena
Not pet but friend
yharon definitly isn't a pet
That's up to you
yharon has a human level of intelligence
he kinda wants you to take his place
they are more like siblings right?
he knows he's got little time left
he's like armstrong at the end of the final fight in MGRR basically
I think it’s more like friends
isn't ROTJD canon ?
Yes
What’s rotjd
It's canon mostly, yeah
idk their souls are linked/attuned so i see a familial bond
I mean Yharim is still his master. Just because a student calls their teacher their master
Doesn't mean they're their mentor's pet

rose if 😭
would they really fit a student/teacher dynamic though?
Plenty of context that can have someone call them master other then pet
Exactly
no, but what melon said is my point
ah i misunderstood what u meant
Yharim definitely came to Accept his present self
I'm not sure if he would change things if he could get back in time
But he definitely came to terms with himself
He doesn’t regret all the genocides but hurting like the five people he was semi close to
Even then that may be a bit debatable
Yharim is a monster, but a human monster
He's extraordinarily evil, but he doesn't lack emotion
how evil is he tho ?
@devout stratus
Skeletron prime
i only know like the surface
He feels nostalgia, suprise, wonder, acceptance
that's him ?
Even if he did sorta cause a genocide that killed at least half of the world's population
to know the rest of his actions go here
Yharim is not pure evil imo
He is just broken
His circumstances make you question if he would do the same thing without it
All the mechs are like 50 terrorists put into a mech body so they can cause more terrorism
like he asked draedon for prime ?
Skeletron prime burned innocents
@devout stratus
A lot of people portray people whoa re evil as "unfeeling" or generally incapable of emotion
But that's just now how it works
But at the same time
That doesn't make their actions less evil
no prime is just extraordinarily evil like yharim
They have their reasons, however logical it may be they will have them
Exactly.
wait Yharim doesnt have a fight yet
Yeah
Everyone has their own sense of morality
And as for yharim
His actions are justified
are you thinking of yharon the dragon?
With his morality of course
oh idk his fight is difficult but i found it easy enough after like 2 trys
tho i am very good at these types of games so idk how normal people think of it
in multiplayer he keeps despawning, in expert death he throws random bs, in master death he spawns with 2 heads and destroyer and twins and make people frustrated
(im not prideful i just have no life to live other than bullet hells and boss fights)
idk i killed him easy :/
Whuh
Don't play death mode master mode
expert death ? yeah he's easy but really long
Wait till it's actually balanced
Somebody being a murderer doesn't mean they feel nothing. A person being racist or sexist doesn't mean they can't feel empathy. A person who yells and screams at all those around doesn't mean they don't feel sorrow. It's easier to pretend these sorts of people just don't feel emotion. It puts a divide between you and those types of people in your mind. You get to think of them as "less human". But pretending that's the case doesn't make it true. Yes, it's haard pill to swallow sometimes, but is always needs to be remembered that no matter how awful somebody is, they feels things, too. But at the same time, you have to understand that that fact doesn't justify their actions.
but its funn thooooooo
no master death mode
For me
It's fun as long as it's practical
This just isn't really
you might be a masochist
I want Yharim to be a better example fo this as time goes on.
To more clearly be this.
i just have quick pattern recognition its from the ADHD and a pinch of tism
who's more evil between yharim and draedon tho ?
Draedon imo
Draedon literally doesn't have a concept of good or evil
That’s like asking if a ant can out evil yharim
That's like asking if a bear is evil
Neither have morality
"progress"
Draedon only did the plague to test his control on biological life
It has no moral compass. It can't even really comprehend one.
I already get it
Even by his views
He knows he did some crimes
But his concept of crime is already way different then a normal person
Shaped by his upbringing
Not to hurt or due to evil
what 😭
yeah hes the text box definition of psychopathy (i mean the literal definition not connotative)
Nano plague was him
Draedon is evil if he wants to be
And by evil I mean pure evil
yeah i know that but like
But what makes this worse is that he probably just doesn't feel like it
no other motives ? 😭
That just makes him more threatening
Science is all his motive, to learn
Psychopathy isn't a real medical term
Just
no just experiments and how he can bend the world to his will
A variety of ASPD is what most people call "psychopathy"
yeah that i forgot the name
didn't he enslave bees and made PBG out of a queen bee just to observe them ?
Yeah, to learn
Not to cause suffering
and exo mech ?
I know people who have it who have ASPD who are good people regardless who really don't like the term "psychopath"
Yeah
He also destroyed many ecosystems for the sake of research
He didn't really outright destroy them
But he didn't care as long as he got the knowledge he needed and so left them with the consequences
like why does he make such machinery
draedon was likely made without empathy or morals, and yes that and to use them for his experiments/bend them to his will
To push what he can make to see where his tech is and probably some form of guarding himself
why doesn't bro cure diseases or smth
bc he is one at least partially
Cause he hasn’t gotten to that part of science yet
or make building robots
He has
no moral reason to
Why would he?
Cei yapping
Must backread
Yeah why would he
Hello stip
Nanodroids and repair drones keep the labs on general upkeep
He literally doesn't need to care for anything else other than his research
It’s just that he had to focus on war tech while working with yharim
So his battle tech is far higher then any of his other tech
yharim always has the greatest of influences on people 🙂👍
well more like wanted to draedon loves to watch fights to gauge power
and now with the exo mechs done and him having in, in his eyes, made the strongest war machina he can
he can move onto other stuff
You're definitely joining his fleet or smth
His amorality and emotionless ness I assume is why I assume he was fine helping yharim with Exo tech
You know, I wanna fit in a Deus worshiping site in the game at some point....
Same
ya bro imagine working for yharim and shit
free gear
Cause yharim is interesting specimen and this was a research chance
where would it go?
Garunteed Arsenal t1 gear as a recruit
Btw
I do think it'd be nice as an indicator of where it WILL spawn
Do we ever see his fleet
If that was possible
At least closer
what if i show up with full auric
you'd die the moment you touched auric
due to auric rejection
Wear cloth below the auric
and what if i join yharim post game ?
Join what lmao
LMFAO
what if it was mock atunment via yharon soul fragments?
By post game yharim is dead
maybe i'd replace bro
Ok and that's for you to decide
The evil route
If you want your character to be the msot evil bastard possible
cloth doesnt work since you can wear anything and auric ore will still zap you (im very fun at parties)
Yeah hence why i said it
it would be so awesome
it would be so cool
It would be extremely cool to see the yharim fleet attacking us when we are getting close to the arena to fight him
But we kill them with as little effort as possible
I think this would be a great reminder to how far we have come
I personally find that to be a pretty boring outcome tbh
what would you even do?
the crusade is already over
it would make sense especially with miracle matter weapons since those were invented by us
ther eis no more army
Hello!
wait whats the lore behind shadowspec made items?
just remnants of whatever if elft from it fighting over what's left
Azafure was likely a lot of his army
i made like 45 undertale genocide runs for fun so i like being evil :)
they're dedicated content
Plus we kill the mech bosses, some of the remaining parts of the army
meaning non canon?
yes
Yes
bro thinks he's dusttale
if you attempted to replace yharim, what would you even do
He trying to make the au canon
Kill xeroc
There is xeroc and noxus
Attempt to
If they get added
aside from maybe the title of "strongest person"
Like actually
kill goozma :D
and die horribly or just watch him laugh in your face and leave
and xeroc ig
Speaking of this
Throudon gave me a cool idea
Having a sort of ceremonial outfit of the ancient Deus worshipers
Inspired by Hinokami Kagura and also that cool ass console exclusive set
Attempt to kill xeroc and nurture bees
oh yeah i'd destroy the underground desert
like whipe out all of it
since i'd be a ranger and have desert PTSD
Personally
I just chill afterwards
If the god of seas is still there
Definitely cleaning all the evil biomes and all
Oh yeah and nuke the abyss to kill silva a bit more
Maybe leaving behind hollow
Because hollow is cool
Generally being destructive and ruin the world more of you take yharims place
thanos type of shit
I mean, nto really
In the continent the game takes place on yeah
But where the game takes palce is jsut in a particuarlly bad state
Oh I would definitely commit mass murder on goblins
even compared to everywhere else
is that foreshadowing?
Not even sparing children
Let the corruption crimson and hallowed spread
That's for sure
pirates aswell
Out elsewhere in the world, there are still towns and cities managing to go from day to day
Hell, there's even a few independent nations
Pirates are wandering around
But they have bases around the edges of terraria itself
oh and i'd do an omni-man and destroy the martians without sparing anyone
I don't think they dare go far
a lot less than there were before the crusade but
No wonder you see so few people, you're basically in a nuke's ground zero
I wonder what’s happening on those continents
there are some palces that manged to mostly make sure they kept their independance and were able to deal with the aftereffects of the crusade
That’s a good way of putting it I think
yeah
that's a good way of putting it
everywhere else is just dealing with the fallout and nasty side effects
you're right in the fucking crater
There are worse
time to make it none using the subsuming vortex ⭐v⭐
We’re on continent ground zero of the crusade, moonlords rampage and plague and astral star
what's the lore behind aquatic scourge ?
We’re on the Australia continent
which yeah there will be references to some stuff still out there
i like to think i'm killing a protected and majestuous peaceful creature just for some good loot
i am become the invasion =)
it's a big ass party of lore stuff
It is a benevolent and peaceful being
Y'all need to make this a dialogue for wandering merchant
desert scourge but he stayed hydrated
well not quite
Pretty sure they’re deprecate species
I absolutely will be name dropping locations and not eleborating
ecologists must HATE me

shurt up
Like cousin species or something
a name
lemme um acshualy this
desert scourge but a different species in a different part of the world that adapted to its environment completely differently
leave people guessing and wondering
not really different tho.,.,.,
wait but
ehh its like frogs and toads
Similiar but different
if you kill a peaceful and benevolant creature for fun, aren't we like kinda assholes aswell
I think cats and dogs would be better
we kinda assholes from the beginning tho
How? Don’t think anyone can mistake a cat or dog for the other
stinker
not really? its the same worm species native to llmaran but it adapted to the dried ocean now desert while aquatic is the same as well but it went to the sulpheric sea
They're different species
now they are
AS isn't from illmeris
That are related by maybe being in the same general clade
Evolution
Again, like cats and dogs
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Where did the great sans shark go before it came back post plantera
ok if you really wanna be embarassed
Vacation
He came back abruptly because of funeral
Relative doesn't always mean the same species
Humans are related to chimpanzee
We're not the same species
imo as is either a very close species or the same species that just went on to different paths
Monke
Not once is it mentioned that AS escaped from Illmeris
I’d say diff species
Also yeah AS is native to the sulphurous sea
It just says it adapted to the sulphurous sea, because it, shocker, wasn't always sulphurous
Cause otherwise I doubt aquatic could handle the sulphurous sea
so were just gonna ignore the subtext that they are clearly supposed to be of the same family
gotcha
you were cooler before that statement.

But being in the same family =/= same species
also why does calclone attack us
Is human and gorilla the same species
cuz it wants to
Because insane
and you seems strong
fair enough
and im saying they were the same as evident by DS that species is very adaptable so it makes sense they were the same at some point
more or less
Being the same family is like how pigeons are
They are still pigeons
But a little different
if only we got clarification
But it's also not how evolution works
Incineration was like 15 years ago
also do we know what part of yharim's loadout was ?
fr??????
and clearly it evolved
Yeah
in 15 years?
modified auric tesla armor likely melee
It's nuclear waste
Adapted
Calamitas is like below 30 and was a teen when she incinerated it
It doesn't take long till it affects them
modified ?
Because it had similar ecological niche already. It had similar adaptations, which lead to it's survival
^
And AS again always lived in sulp sea
"Microorganisms evolve rapidly, so it was able to maintain its filter feeding habits as the sea putrefied."
It doesn't go down to the sunken sea because, why would it? It can survive in the desert and has basically no competition.
I feel like you missed this line
im sorry are you saying the OCEAN and DESERT are similar areas with similar niches?
AS was there to witness the sea becoming more and more intoxicated
Plus doesn’t dunked see lack oxygen
which sword ? they renamed the tyrant yharim ultisword
Besides
The ecosystem is too small for his diet now
his helmet looks different from ours
Which desert scourge needs
There are shores
Considering said desert was formerly part of said coean
yeah
do you think he uses seraph or drew
i stopped lurking for about 40 minutes and i have so much backreading to do wow
AS and DS being the same species would make no sense considering how different they are
b-but isn't it like chasing for scraps in the lore item or bestiary or someything
the desert was incinerated and you have not seen an ocean before most of it is brimming with life untill you go to deep and even then it is not comparable to a desert at ALL
It's not how evolution works
Is it old lore that sunken sea lacks oxygen
Nope.
I always interpreted it as there’s a single scourge species and the desert scourge is just a weakened, dehydrated scourge, not evolved, but just damaged from the lack of water, while the aquatic scourge is mutated from all the chemicals.
Maintains a diet of microorganisms still in the desert, antlions, and cacti
seraph

Is oasis just made from rain or is it related to the sunken sea in a way?
nah they're in entirely different seas
and notably
same
one has a harder outer shell
They both thrived imo
the other has hardy flesh and skin that allows it to detatch the teeth that cover its body
They had a lot more food than they did before
AS has no exoskeloton and is tinner
yharim doesn't know the meta ❌
can we stop discussing scourges
and different uses for its outer teeth
wrong
it's just that having wings would be kinda weird imo
but he DOES say that he has wings
but like
having weirds 🗣️
like im not even upset i was wrong about the scourges being the same species at one point im just upset at the blatantly wrong biological, evolutionary, and geographical misconceptions
he's a guy
AS abd DS just have different adaptations, yeah
You can't evolve this difference in 15 years
It's less than generation
there is no evolution for desert scourge
it adapted
i understand that now
They just bros meeting after military service
you can't evolve at all in 15 years unless you're a microbe or rat or some shit
Each one handled it different
but 15 years from ocean to desert is not a normal amount of change for normal adaptaion speeds
the species already evolved to dig through sand, devour mcirooganisms, and deal with hard-shelled creatures (like clams before the incineration, now antlions after)
did i rly start a debate about water snakes
I mean it's not like it needed to do too much adapting
^
it’s just resilient
guys please lets move away from the scourges
I don't know why we would discuss adapting irl
It's literally high fantasy
it's still the same sands and simmilar microrganisms
Because it's fun
ok im not going to be arguing with someone who thinks an ocean is comparable to a desert so im going to leave before i say something i regret
I guess so
The only difference is that the snad is tougher due to being charred and it's not surroudned by water anymore
Since it can breathe air it didn’t need to adapt to the waterless knees or the dessert
yeah it is but it's a weird kind of fantasy
when said desert WAS an ocean less than 15 years ago, i don't think it's that much of a stretch in a world with like
Weird doesn't even put it lil bro
telepathic dragons
^
Just cause it’s high fantasy doesn’t mean it can’t have evolution or traits of real life like it
Imagine getting stomped to death
By something just named "mourning wood"
Yeah
Real life is too cool to ignore
Nature can come up with far cooler stuff than we do
it's probably just lazy writing anyway 😭
So stealing from nature is always cool
Dont think mourning wood or pumpkin moon is canon to cal
only question I have is if the scourge can traverse through the sands so well, why didn’t the scourge just burrow down into the far more hospital sunken sea, which is probably more alike it’s previous environment than the desert is
It was a joke
i meant like
why go somewhere with competition?
post DoG drops?
probably goes down there for like
water once in a while
but like that's the thing
in the desert, it has no competition
They’re getting put into distortion items from what I heard
By looking at the sunken sea overhaul
In the water it has to compete with the giant clam
We can definitely say that the critters are too small to fit his diet
It's not the same anymore
it is free to feed as much as it wishes with minimal threat
I don't know what he ate before but that's definitely not enough for him
it's fantasy but it also doesn't try to break reality TOO much like there is no explanation why the prisms from prism backs can be abused for infinite energy but at least it's an explanation why draedon doesn't need to worry about that
true, also I’m guessing electric stuff counter it pretty hard given how effective the stormjaw staff is
It was around a decade, not 15 years
I'd say like, 8 years or so
Damn cal being in their mid twenties
Incarnation is older than half of the calamity players
meanwhile, in the sunken sea, there's things that could potentially pose a threat to it udner certain circumstances.
Oh, alr
But it makes my point even stronger
she's in my age range 🔥
probably not cuz it's not like super moist and moisture conducts electricity well
28 is what i always consider her to be
😱
You can evolve such big difference in such small amount of time if AS and DS were the same species that parted ways after incineration
ok she's 10 years older then but it aint gonna stop me
Yeah, same
please stop saying evolve
Well, I thought 27 but that's insignificant
big dry worm gets head stuck in huge clam (graphic)
You like having deep fried balls don't you?
Who knows
?
Might be other things once sunken sea overhaul comes
i wonder what she can do with her brimstone magic
🙂
There’s also electric crystals everywhere
it's like a
pencil sharpener
Hey stop talking about this
but it's fire

ok
Anyways
💀
This is mildly disturbing
So dig in the wrong block and suddenly desert scourge experiences electric chair in a rock
whar
In the sunken sea
are there ever gonna be ruined buildings in the sunken sea?
Choosing to be horny for characters in front of the person who writes said characters is a certainly a decision to make
That's exactly what I thought
Lmfao
The Sunken Sea is mostly unscathed
Probably a bad decision to make
it's weird
Yeah
I think we might get one
But only one for the sea king statue
There'll be at least a few
I think it’d be neat since wasn’t there supposed to be a city there?
I wonder how long it took for scal to incinerate the sea
Yeah there was
could just be like the hell houses
By the way
Is it true that the new ecosystem in the sunken sea is mostly made by the incarnation of souls of the sea people?
doesn’t have to be crazy
No...
There will be undead section
Cemetery
I was talking to a dev and I heard something about this
Wasn't it timeless shores?
nah the city itself was
well
in whats now the desert
Yeah
what remains is what were the outskirts
The transition section from the desert to the sunken sea
It's pretty cool
Honestly this update is the only thing holding me back from making a 1 year calamity world
Since I imagine it would f up the old worlds
We're making decent progress
Worldgen is coming along nicely from what ive seen, though ive had bigger priorities recently
really
As said earlier, am working on something right now that's a massive priority
We all can wait a bit
We all appreciate y'all for making this mod
ngl Calamitas should’ve melted the snow biome to replace the sea she evaporated, very uncool for the ecosystem
I still don't understand whether Ilmeris is 1 city or an entire kingdom
Entire Kingdom
Also in some ways a confederation of sea people
I mean it was only like, 15 years ago right? We have pyramid ruins, I feel like some things would remain beside the occasional underground desert hut.
Am just waiting for somebody to get back to me on something so I have a frame of reference for a thing
I mean
it was CALAMITAS who ddid the deed
do you think she gave a single shit
The person who has magic flames that burn so hot not even ash remains
mhm
wait a second
There's fairly good reason for there to not be too much left
That it took draedon like centuries worth of science to make a flame equal to hers
In the Sunken Sea then
i doubt he was trying to make it for centuries
cause that was unscathed
he probably started work o nthe exos after splitting with yharim or a little earlier
I imagine pyramid ruins are made by some other human civilization that lived next to the beach
He was doing science for centuries, and only recently with Exo tech had the ability to make fire plasma stuff equal to her fires
and also do remember that he did revisions on the mechs and stuff
there was no calamitas to be equal to for those centuries
and there was no need
and i doubt he was making the exos for centuries
all I could find is that to vaporize ashes, Calamitas' flames would need to be extra energetic
so yeah
prolly something like
less fire and more plasma
It's just extreme heat whatever it is
I mean it's a flame literally capable of burning away the mind
basically
it's magical fire sheinangains
new hax :3
Yeah
It also probably affects the astral world as well
yes ofc
THIS IS FICTION|
yes ofc (1)
crazy
what even is the fun in powerscaling
idk I like to calculate the power of things
ok nvm
good as in good at judging that stuff but also good as in
not dumb

i thought of it as just comparing stuff for a moment then realised it's more like using quantum mechanics to determine if terrarian or steve is stronger or something
shoutouts to the guy who argued with me that yharon should be able to destroy a galaxy
Terrarin from calamity one shoots steve
goes crazy
what
well i mean if i was immortal i could technically destroy a galaxy too it would just take a lot of time
(you see anything that cant destroy a planet is """"fodder"""" and its pwoer doesnt matter and the story is bad because strong characters mean a story is better apparently)
Totally makes sense
planet destroying shit should NOT be in fiction that isn't about that
like you dont even leave the continent how would you get to a planet destroying level of power
dragon ball mfs wouldn't fit in calamity even if you changed their theme
that makes no sense
as somebody who fucking loves dragon ball
imo the closest to planet destroying is draedon or DoG
i hate a lot of dragon ball fans
oh hell naw
nvm
Cartel is watching you
Like the only possible planet level beings are like noxus or xeroc or prime moonlord, even then I would say that’s far too high
For either of them
not really either, Draedon can destroy all life if he builds the right machines to do that, idk about DoG though
Dog is not close to planet level
Btw
Can noxus even leave his own world?
DoG is big as fuck tho
it feels like half of the dragon ball fandom learned the show from abdirdged or youtube clips and
ok nvm that's bs
Hell sing
to fuckign bits
Abridged fun
Abridged is amazing
Hell sing abridged
people needs to stop treating it like
Abridged is not a good way to learn DBZ
ain't nobody watching years worth of people punching each other with funny sounds
it accuratly represents the series and characters
It’s a parody
he could proly make some kinda bomb
Being more fun>making sense
It ain’t going to be accurate
I wonder how many people assume Guru is like that in the regular series
Dragon Ball is fun because it's an idiot plot done well. Everybody is stupid, and it's entirely in character, but it's almost about those characters becoming less stupid.
I'm not sure if people realize that the biggest nuclear weapon ever made is already in the 10^7 tnt tons energy range, and the energy needed to blow up a planet is usually in the 10^21 tnt tons energy range
you'd have to add 14 or so zeros to bridge the gap between the strongest weapon we humans have ever made and the power needed to blow up a planet, that's insane
cool
the difference is literal trillions at least
You just need to punch yharim so bad he goes faster than speed of light and hits moon
The series adgknoweges that all of these people are highly flawed and it's a story about them slowly and subtly becoming less flawed
Hello lore channel
smh omni just write the zeros on a piece of paper and stick it on the bomb
ftl would generate infinite energy and thus destroy the entire universe probably
What are you all talking about
Power scalers being dumb for the most part
Oh
just light would
And dragon ball fans being dumb for the most part I think
I wonder what happens if ceaseless void was left to be free
That mf definitely had potential
Dragon Ball is one of those pieces of media where if you take it at face value yes it's stupid as shit but has lots of cool development and themes that 80% of the community glosses over
yes lightspeed would, but light by itself doesn't cause it doesn't have mass
Isn't it a black hole?
yeah
I love dragon ball
no
I thought it was
But this is probably old lore
ceaseless void is a portal to the distortion the way it is currently in lore
why tf would it be a black hole
if it was a black hole
It would be cool
then that'd be crazy
why would the dungeon have a random ass black hole
Anyways I love Dragon Ball
the DBZ community killing off every non-fighter character so goku/gohan/vegeta can get a hair color change
Current lore ceaseless is a portal that the dragon cult put a spell on that makes it attack the tune of kos for some reason
even a black hole that's half of a millimeter wide can instantly break apart the moon
Hot take
I prefer nerd gohan
He's earned his rest
oh absolutely
Give hima peaceful life
is goku stupid?? why won't he just go to the stylist npc and ask her to color his hair???
you shall be executed by the fans
Gohan went through so much shit he didn't want to go through
but yeah you're right Cei
I thought dog accidentally made a black hole while teleporting or something
I honestly have no idea where I heard this
But I just accepted it
I don't DISLIKE what Super is currently doing this Gohan
gotta love discussing the CALAMITY AND VANILLA lore
I like when the characters all have distinct motivations and and are not all just Goku but looks different
he witnessed several people he was close to die MULTIPLE TIMES
WHEN HE WAS A CHILD
But I would prefer if Gohan was out of the fighting game
like that DEFINITELY fucked him up
That’s old lore
I didn't watch cell saga so I had no clue why gohan was done with fighting
he deserves to live a calm life after all this
which is DEFINETLY
what we do rn
Most dragon ball fans are degenerate
That's for sure
I have seen things that I wish I didn't
Gohan got his neck snapped at like age 6, I’d never want to fight again if that was me
but are most degenerate fans dragon balls
I wish nobody ever goes to witness horrors I have
they hate chi-chi and videl so much
Super I feel like doesn't have the same spirit DBZ has until the Moro saga which yeah uh
Anime isnt there
why the fuck is the actual authority here supporting the blatant misuse of the channel
this isn't fair
you have no idea how often ppl kill them off to give goku and gohan a power boost

too bad
Early buu saga videl is peak
Be quiet
let me clarify
i dont dislike super
Lore discussion is just gaslighting
devs don't even have authority mods do
It's almost always off topic
I think it's a fine work given the context of its creation
I've been putting off super for so long just because the zamasu ark left such a bad taste in my mouth
I really didn't like how that was resolved
So i haven't watched ToP yet
We’re discussing the lore of dragon ball fans losing the ability to read, channel isn’t calamity lore discussion its lore discussion
i originally came here hoping that i could talk about dragonfolly or something
though i heard it's where Super got a bit better
I watched ToP start to finish
I have derail permission
tournament of power was a vibe
i watched the uhh
imo the sage proceeding it
the zeno thingy
man i would ping a mod like an asshole but
Imo
i don't wanna be one
Moro and Granolah are absolutely the best parts of Super
moro saga is just manga only rn right?
and what if the mod is also a draggin balls fan
aight
Granolah imo being by far the ebst arc of super
have you considered not caring
Rip akira
Yeah he died
akira toriyama
akira toriyama
the creator of dbz
Akira toriyama died
Like months ago
It has some bumpy bits but overall
I loved DBZ
But only real ones know Chrono trigger
confused me there
Definitly the best portion
i like to put granola in my yogurt
Chrono trigger changed my life as a kid I swear
god ive been putting off chrono trigger too
i really should play it
You definitely should
It's a timeless masterpiece
In Stars and Time
kibby
heard good things
kibby
It is an EXCELLENT game
aaaaa im playing that one right now
i've got like 3 RPGs i wanna play now
maybe even a top 10 for me
This is the best calamity lore
the characters and dialogue are so good
frog
In Stars and Time is a wonderful game
Thousand Year Door, Chrono Trigger and Octopath Traveler
i love siffrin and mirabelle
most likely in that order
Modern gaming is dead
you any of you ever can, please play it
I have seen few games with so much love of the game from the creator oozing out of them
cei have you played valhalla
yes
Honestly
I really fw traditional rougelikes now
i just finished that
great game
elden ring fans when they play a good game like call of duty or fortnite
thought you'd like it
The amount of details put into traditional rougelikes is insane
Ew
Wouldn’t recommend honestly
Cdda and caves of qud and dwarf fortress do it fronme
Anyways there's my game recommendation this month
I play grass
good game recommendation
Game is like $20 and is absolutely worth it
Amazing experience
Go play In Stars and Time
Piracy is life for me
Because of my circumstances
i love the game it's just the gameplay is kinda unfortunate sometimes 
i haven't finished it cause i still have to get through some tedious bits
Imo there's only one part of the gameplay that made me go "ehh not sure about that one" in act 3
Is this like undertalish?
i don't want to get into too many spoilers or details it's just
no
the main mechanic is used a little weirdly at times to make you do things
Ah okay
The style of the game gave me that vibe
You guys definitely had me interested
To be fair you can be given pretty good advice if you're stuck by a certain someone
yeah
slay the princess is a great game
Oh yeah that one
You could actually buy it and ISAT together there as a bundle for a while
I love slay the princess
I double on that
I actually cried when the game finished
Thankfully it got a bit more recognition after the look memes
But yes In Stars and Time is my favorite game I've played this year
That game made me feel
the issue isn't really advice it's just ||the fact you can lock yourself out of things and be forced to do it all again constantly is annoying at times|| gameplay spoiled for isat
i agree it is a really good game (though i haven't finished it
||i mean, wont say anything specific since i dunno how far you are, but you DO get a lot of options to speed things up||
there's just a flaw there
Shadow of erdtree did it for me
||here ill just dm you||
anywyas
Before that maybe bg3
sure
Haha yes Yharim racist against lihzahrds
Yharim is racist towards almost anything
He goes on to mock the names of the vanilla bosses
He did that like once
Lmfao I always found it hilarious how yharim is complaining about the vanilla bosses name
goleming around
If the eye of xeroc appears here in [REDACTED] we are fucked
“Eater of worlds? More like eat my shit. I fucking hate this worm on god-WAIT I DIDNT SAY THAT I HATE GODS NONONONO-“
Yharim being a Muslim is my new head cannon
Crazy
Lore devs, put Jesus in the game right now
Let the world be saved by the love of our saviour
I eated the world
Let us fist fight Jesus

Eater of Worlds for real
Bruh
Hey wait a minute you’re not Kana
crazy insanity
Fovos talk when
Where did they put moon lord’s legs
as soon as the dev left we devolved into insanity
Did they ated them
The pillars
Turned em into the pillars
lurking in this chat is so fun because i get to watch these silly conversations play out in real time
Bro got four legs?
You surprised that alien be aliening?
What’s with the fourth pillar
I’m xenophobe maxxing for real, fuck this brown space squid
Btw guys
How can I make Craig brimstone move in
I already have auric Tesla In my town
You gotta beat clamitas five times
i wonder if this message got flagged
Uh oh
Ironically
Craig brimstone is such a cool name
The real name of supreme Calamitas
Janice
i remember cog saying there's something that auto-detects what might be troublesome messages for mods to check out
The name of calamitas real dad leaked
obivously not gonna be right a lot of the time
Cog if you’re looking at this please don’t kill me
because a bot will rarely get sarcasm or a joke
but your message made me think of that
Better for it to exist then not though
True
oh absolutely
I also still haven't gotten bob the skeleton merchant to move in
bob the builder
Ah alchemist npc
could bob the builder out-build draedon
Bob the builder built draedon
He makes the first twerking machine and finishes off draedon
The name of the twerking machine was guide
Holy shit
Wait what
okay i'm gonna leave now i think
In old lore scal was insanely broken
The city was higher up
In the part that's now the Underground Desert
The Sunken Sea is the "intact" outskirts
Which is why the UG Desert will have more ruins, and the ruins will be more damaged
Oh nvm Cei said that
So pre-incineration how deep below the surface was the sunken sea
Would a bunch of kids who decided to dig a hole accidentally reach it
as deep as it visibly is in game
where the caves start
Ok, thank you
Is there any specific temp that is stated for scals flames to burn at?
Or is it just non descriptive
very hot
probably as hot as she wanta them to be
i doubt he had one to begin with
hello lorers
i see there was sunken sea discussion and people being weird
the usual
it must have been quite the trip backreading all of that
Lore
so true
the implications that there's things in the sunken sea that would be threats to something as big as DS is interesting...
I mean i figured there'd obviously be Predators there but i wasn't expecting something that impressive
Given sunken sea rn is a really peaceful biome
but it makes sense
🧀
What happens if you eat sea prism
rocks are good.for digestion
It’s super sunken sea salt
Triangle has mentioned smth about two different sharks and some hydra creature
In spoiler chat before
So i wonder if any of those fit in that description
Bartering crab guy
crab my beloved
🦀
i love the little trader crabs
It’s so cute
i'm genuinely so excited for sunken sea overhaul 😭
weapons and armor and all that r cool
but
nothing hits as much as new biomes and creatures and worldbuilding for me
I feel that
I hope they do add more ruins to the ug for that update
I wanna see more about illmeris that’s all
The gameplay is already great in calamity
i don't think there's anything i've heard is coming in the SSO that doesn't excite me
I wonder if we'll get stuff in the desert too
Like
Some random ruins in the underground desert itself n stuff
The triangle beasts...
Can’t wait for the totally real Tyrian boss fight
gem crawlers 
the ghost bells look so awesome