they are
#lore-discussion
ionic harness
They might be implanted differently later down the road
mighty zenith
you don't need the lore items to know that the slime god and providence, the profaned goddess
pliant ruin
gods aren't a faction or a group of people working together
mighty zenith
are gods
split mortar
Well the lore whispers are going to be done in a less intrusive way then they currently are
mighty zenith
then what is
ionic harness
You don’t have to get aggressive
pliant ruin
yeah the lore whispers are kind of stinky but that's not what i'm getting at
mighty zenith
cause i really can't understand what you're getting at here
pliant ruin
what i'm getting at is that i don't understand why the gods need to have something shared beetween all their designs that clearly indicates they're all related or whatever when not only they aren't but the only thing the player does need to know is that they're all gods and like
it says it right there
in their name
leaden bridge
They just wrote everything so that every fucking god is guy absorbs dragon but that is just like, literally not connected in any way to their designs or presence in game
They ARE related, providence and slime god are both products of the exact same act with the exact same powers involved even if power level and domains are different
split mortar
Ravager is a god and I doubt anyone would have guessed that if it didn’t specify in lore item
pliant ruin
Yeah but that's like. Intentional.
ionic harness
But why should they be connected?
leaden bridge
if its intentional its even worse
pliant ruin
Ravager
is supposed
to not resemble a god
to the point nobody even knew it was a god until recently
that's the entire point
leaden bridge
But why should they be connected?
they already are connected because they're both products of the same act
split mortar
It is a shambling shadow of its revived husk so I can kind of see why
Then again isn’t raveher getting a huge resprite
leaden bridge
to the point nobody even knew it was a god until recently
sorry but like where the fuck is this ever mentioned
split mortar
It was worshiped and was revived in a mass sacrifice
pliant ruin
they already are connected because they're both products of the same act
They're only incredibly loosely connected. And even then. What would changing their designs to reflect that do? Make players suddenly Know that they all consumed auric souls? Even if their design had similarities nobody is gonna figure that out without text. At best it'd make people look back on designs after they got that information
split mortar
It was a known and strong god
leaden bridge
Then again isn’t raveher getting a huge resprite
yeah and it is going to visually communicate the fact it's the sacrifice guy which is exactly the thing we're talking about
ionic harness
They’re products of a SIMILAR act. It’s still a different dragons soul, with a different person. Their powers are going to mingle differently and create something entirely unique each and every time. The gods body was adapted to deal with this new power. That’s why they look as different as they do. Xeroc was a powerful monk, with an extremely powerful auric soul. Thats completely different to whatever absorbed the souls from the dragon of gluttony, hence why slime god has a completely different, and disconnected design
leaden bridge
They're only *incredibly loosely* connected. And even then. What would changing ...
that later point you make is awesome, that's awesome, it'd be awesome if people could look bad at slime god and see "oh yeah we get it now" surely you realize that is awesome
Design language is a real thing
pliant ruin
You keep calling these things awesome but like
What do they change
I'm not saying they're bad to have. Like, sure, that could b neat, i guess. But does it really matter
Yes design language is a really thing
pliant ruin
But respectfully everytime i see you in this chat you're being so incredibly nitpicky over things that don't matter
leaden bridge
awesome
pliant ruin
Just because something dosen't fit your very specific necessities that honestly really wouldn't change like, barely anything dosen't mean it dosen't have thought or quality put behind it
split mortar
Things seem a bit heated here’s this
buoyant inlet
i think it would be cool if all gods had halos similar to Radiance halo
pliant ruin
I'm not opposed to criticizing things. I've criticized a good few things to come out of calamity mod including some really recently revealed things. But there's a difference beetween providing critique and being overwhelmingly negative
buoyant inlet
well, generally similar
not exactly 1:1
halo that has some symbol to represent their domain
leaden bridge
we're overwhelmingly negative because after a bunch of hours engaging with this thing it is more and more clear to us that it has so many issues
pliant ruin
Half of the ''issues" you present aren't even issues they're just things you make out to be issues
Like yes
some things you suggest could be neat. could be cool.
leaden bridge
anyways throudon youre so based thats so based
pliant ruin
but issues?
ionic harness
I feel like we all have to take a step back and realize that this mod is still very much in development. Things need to change and things need to be expanded on. Once we see more gods, I feel like we’ll all have a much better idea for what the devs visions are.
We have two gods who are alive
leaden bridge
ocean fish looks like a guy he barely looks godly its kinda fun
ionic harness
And the husk of one dead one
I wanna see how everything is implemented beyond concept art
split mortar
halo that has some symbol to represent their domain
Maybe hide the halo in the designs, like slime having it around the core and providence having a fire halo around the core? Idk, maybe a circle of broken jaws on ravager since it is a revived broken god
pliant ruin
That could be neat
split mortar
Idk just throwing shit out there
ionic harness
I’d honestly like to see more about their souls
It’s supposed to be unique
It could connect them though a radiant looking soul
split mortar
Little unobtrusive sign that you would need to see and notice but hints at it idk
leaden bridge
it's also kind of limiting that you have to design these guys around their current boss fights which is what we mentioned early so honestly who can blame slime god for being
hey wait a second why is providence designed like that
split mortar
It’s not 1:1 with fire dragon
split mortar
The city?
leaden bridge
wonder if it had to do anythign with ice queen movement but its probable just that the crystal core stone body thing idea just grew out into what we have todayt he same way dog's designs have always been basically iterations of the previous thing
and like obviously at this point she's so big and stuff and the sprite is like fine so redesigning her is work nobody would be willing to do anyways
unlike for example polterghast who's already getting something else
we do wish the guardians would have gotten something else than they got right now but Oh Well
ionic harness
Braelor likes ants btw
leaden bridge
do you think they have ants in the distortion, what if braelor is riding ants in the distortion
plucky spruce
leaden bridge
yeah
ionic harness
Worm boss
buoyant inlet
I imagine him empowering and then shooting his horns like lightning harpoons
leaden bridge
his horns look like hell charge an electric ball too
buoyant inlet
frozen zodiac
the blueprints of the codebreaker were made by draedon right
because i was wondering wouldnt it have a code name since "codebreaker" seems a bit too simple for someone like him
buoyant inlet
maybe they were written in like draedon language that terrarian couldnt understand so they gave it the most straightforward name
buoyant inlet
you see the vision right
also i imagine that weaver can casts not just a thunderstorms but also supercell clouds and tornadoes
split mortar
maybe they were written in like draedon language that terrarian couldnt understa...
“It breaks the decryption code of the schematics so it’s a code breaker”
buoyant inlet
also i imagine that weaver can casts not just a thunderstorms but also supercell...
the image of weaver flying amidst giant tornadoes is just so cool
with sickly green-blue-ish clouds and a lot of lightnings
cosmic zenith
Saw someone on Youtube saying that new lore made DoG pathetic and weak
Of course, I brought up my perspective
Including but not limited to
- Old lore DoG never even ate Gods, while nobody in new lore doubts the validity of his title
leaden bridge
anything else?
like did they say anything substantial also we're legitimately curious here because like its obviously true it doesnt but
cosmic zenith
In the comment section
There aren't many comments so you should be able to find it quite easily
leaden bridge
thank you
cosmic zenith
Np
leaden bridge
oh yeah we can see he's just wrong about what old lore actually was
leaden bridge
Including but not limited to
- Old lore DoG never even ate Gods, while nobody i...
although we would like to point out that this is basically actually the smallest point here because what a god is was redefined
buoyant inlet
i remember that in old lore dog in fact was described as weak, or immature, or borderline pathetic
like i remember looking through old lore doc and like there was a quote from some character i think about how dog can only be a real threat if he eats provi or something, and without that he's very immature and not a threat
i don't remember exactly but it was kinda frustrating because it feels like he was made weak and pathetic on purpose, which just doesn't feel right
cosmic zenith
although we would like to point out that this is basically actually the smallest...
It's still more validating than giving the boss a title it never lived up to
halcyon dust
like i remember looking through old lore doc and like there was a quote from som...
A being with a serpent’s tongue
buoyant inlet
he still can have serpent’s tongue and be an imposing and dangerous figure
mighty zenith
https://youtube.com/shorts/BR4waEhxXjQ?si=Hajv0flG6edWaNDM
reading this guy's comment reminded me how frustrating it is to argue in youtube comment sections
halcyon dust
Arguing on youtube is probably worse than arguing on twitter
mighty zenith
he's frustrated about new lore while talking about how better things were even though they were either A. literally never the case or B. FROM NEW LORE
halcyon dust
he still can have serpent’s tongue and be an imposing and dangerous figure
Definitely
pliant ruin
DoG is very powerful and intimidating but also kind of a snobby jerk which makes him seem a bit pathethic depending on your point of view but at the same time he was always kind of like that tbh
I just like new lore iteration more because it kind of doubles down on most of the traits he had in old lore whilst making him more like, grounded
leaden bridge
It's still more validating than giving the boss a title it never lived up to
wdk we dont think it matters too much, the same way we find yharim's comment on eow (which honestly just does straight up feel like an opinion of the writer) very silly
cosmic zenith
How so?
visual kiln
wtf im not warned
visual kiln
i wanna be warned again what rule should i break
leaden bridge
How so?
Yharim's "erm well obviously eater of worlds doesn't eat worlds" feels like a comment that just places importance somewhere there isn't any actual importance, people can discern on their own that it's just a title and isn't indicative of the worm power level this is how we do titles irl so it's not weird at all
We feel the same about dog's title and sg's (came up a lot before the rewrite) it doesn't matter if they're not completely truthful representations of the self because we don't actually do titles like that
pliant ruin
hammer
wheat walrus
We feel the same about dog's title and sg's (came up a lot before the rewrite) i...
Man
Who cares honestly
This has the same level of impact as a speck of dust hitting the ground at 0,00125 meters per second
leaden bridge
Okay? Did we say this is the most prominent issue in calamity writing or did we simple point a thing out
wheat walrus
It's just that I been seeing you argue over pointless shit for quite a bit
And like
Do something else idk
leaden bridge
We're not even arguing man
wheat walrus
We're not even arguing man
You very much understand what I mean
spare pier
Yharim's "erm well obviously eater of worlds doesn't eat worlds" feels like a co...
Yharim brings up EoW's title because it's the biggest example of a massive hyperbole, and then talks about how easily tales with even an ounce of truth spread, then comparing it to things that have been said about him
You just completely missed the point of what EoW's Lore Item is about. It's not saying his title is meaningless, it's about how facts can be distorted so easily
wheat walrus
Rebecca "One Piece" Haguri has cooked I think
leaden bridge
it got kinda burnt then because we never claimed that was the point of that item
spare pier
feels like a comment that just places importance somewhere there isn't any actual importance
This was your point
You claimed that the item put importance in a place where there isn't, when it never does. It quite simply pulls an example you can see (Eater of Worlds, clearly not capable of eating one, still called so) to state a point (that half-truths spread easily)
spring helm
he will be digitized
spare pier
You claimed that the item put importance in a place where there isn't, when it n...
In simpler words, what EoW's Lore Item says is just
"The title this thing has is a massive hyperbole. This should show you that sometimes what you hear from the mouths of people is not always true, and infact this has happened with me before"
It never puts emphasis on the title being fake
It just says that it is to prove a point
pliant ruin
Okay? Did we say this is the most prominent issue in calamity writing or did we ...
The problem is that "pointing things out" as you say it often equates to you being weirdly passive agressive and negative over things you personally dislike that as me and many others have pointed out really don't matter
jaunty cloak
reading this guy's comment reminded me how frustrating it is to argue in youtube...
youtube's comment section rewards very interesting takes even more so than reddit
because dislikes for comments are nonfunctional since about a decade
spare pier
YouTube comment sections reveals some of the most insane and deranged opinions ever
jaunty cloak
tyranny of the majority as a forum
jaunty wraith
YouTube comment sections reveals some of the most insane and deranged opinions e...
Not anymore for me. It's always "whose watching in x year" or "can we take a moment to appreciate x creator"
Just braindead brain rot trying to get likes cause getting your comment liked is a massive achievement for some people
mighty zenith
if i had a nickel for every person i've seen complaining about new lore in youtube comments while spouting the most incorrect and made-up shit possible i'd be rich
frozen zodiac
would the terrarian's relationship with yharim be considered abusive with how much he tries to gaslight them
mighty zenith
i think the fact they wanna kill each other is more problematic
frozen zodiac
...is that a yes or a no
violet sparrow
Not anymore for me. It's always "whose watching in x year" or "can we take a mom...
those first comments only apply to music videos
hot valve
Considering DoG’s new sprite, do we have any idea who gave him the scar? It’s entirely plausible it’s not any character we actually know
mighty zenith
Heart said it came from a fight in the past
my headcanon is that it's from Braelor
jaunty wraith
You think seeing that scar is what made yharim order draedon to make the armor?
hot valve
That’s what was heart said iirc
That the armour was made so no scar would ever be made again
The last sentence on the bottom
jaunty wraith
Hes battle many gods, so its entirly possivle it's one weve never heard of
mighty zenith
most likely yeah
hot valve
If I had to guess, the devourer comes to fight us armour off because we probably don’t seem very threatening to him
Realizes he’s getting his ass kicked, and then phase 2 puts it on
I have no idea how it comes on and off though lmao
jaunty wraith
All we know is that it must of been a powerful god. Draedons entry specificly says the armor is made so DoG can "Challange even the mightiest of gods"
Knowing DoG, he got cocky in a battle thinking hed win easily
mighty zenith
hell, it could've been ravager potentially
maybe the hit made DoG retreat before he could devour him
theres no proof of this im just spitballing 
jaunty wraith
We know ravager is a powerful god. since sometime in the future hes gonna be retiered to be post providence
and thats when hes in his revived monster form. Imagine what he could of been in his prime?
hot valve
Ravager was the god of sacrifices yeah? Original dragon was dragon of death? I can’t imagine that not being strong tbh
wanton tusk
I have no idea how it comes on and off though lmao
My mind just conjured the image of DoG entering the Distortion or whatever's on the other side of the portals in his fight, and then hurriedly trying to get his shit together so he can carry on fighting you.
jaunty wraith
Well the DoG fight is gonna take place in the distortion once the update comes out
split mortar
Ravager was the god of sacrifices yeah? Original dragon was dragon of death? I c...
It would atleast be very offensively strong
jaunty wraith
Maybe during the new fight we see his armor on the floor, then he quickly gathers it for his second phase
hot valve
What I imagine is that he goes through a portal and the top and bottom of the armour pieces clasp together for each segment rapidly in a row
split mortar
Dog just teleports into the armour
jaunty wraith
How they gonna make the new fight work? Hes to big for AA DD AA DD AA DD
wanton tusk
Well the DoG fight is gonna take place in the distortion once the update comes o...
How are we actually going to access the Distortion by the way? Through Ceaseless Void?
split mortar
How they gonna make the new fight work? Hes to big for AA DD AA DD AA DD
AA DD?
jaunty wraith
thats how you ram dash
random mulch
i guess we'll just have to dodge him instead of simply brute force dashing
mighty zenith
How are we actually going to access the Distortion by the way? Through Ceaseless...
the first area will be accessible through ceaseless
jaunty wraith
which is basicly required for his fight, especially in infernum
mighty zenith
the DoG area will be available through one of his portals
split mortar
thats how you ram dash
Infernum is the one with the lots of ramdashes, current cal dog just kinda floats there mostly
rotund shore
eh ram dashes help ALOT for basecal dog
split mortar
Yeah but they’re not needed
jaunty wraith
Its convient
DoG hurts like a truck if he rams you
nearly one shot even if most optimal setups
split mortar
Unless they make the aegis dash like 1.5 screens long then idk how ram dashes can even be useful for the fight
split mortar
on master mode DoG WILL oneshot you
Does death still have the codes to oneshot no matter what?
rotund shore
Does death still have the codes to oneshot no matter what?
nope, was removed awhile ago
split mortar
:(
rotund shore
but im pretty sure with ontier gear, you can't tank master mode head hits
hot valve
When they add the new on I’m like certain the head will oneshot again regardless of armour
Just eats you
rotund shore
Im pretty sure you can tank a master mode dog hit with draedons heart and an otherwise maxed tank build
but with on tier stuff it just does too much
split mortar
Doesn’t solar or beatle win in tank with the strong as hell set bonus of 40% damage reduction?
rotund shore
Doesn’t solar or beatle win in tank with the strong as hell set bonus of 40% dam...
solar was nerfed in cal recently
split mortar
Oh
rotund shore
because it was fucking busted
split mortar
What does solar do now
rotund shore
was meta until post yharon for reference
jaunty wraith
I think damage deduction in calamity is multiplicitive, not additve
mighty zenith
What does solar do now
mostly the same
split mortar
I think damage deduction in calamity is multiplicitive, not additve
I’m pretty sure that’s the case in vanilla aswell
rotund shore
it does the same stuff, just weaker
mighty zenith
they just nerfed its stats
rotund shore
I usually see tarragon be suggested over solar now
split mortar
was meta until post yharon for reference
I did not know that, did that make melee like the best class until post dog or something?
jaunty wraith
Lunar armor in general was busted
rotund shore
I did not know that, did that make melee like the best class until post dog or s...
summoner was the best class overall, as it has been for awhile
still IS the best class overall
split mortar
Yeah with whips
rotund shore
even without whips summoner usually has the best killtimes
jaunty wraith
Well calamity whip mod isnt really... balanced well
rotund shore
ranger has some insane killtimes but thats just due to coin gun and sevens striker, which are statistical outliers in my mind
same with sand gun but to a lesser degree
split mortar
Didn’t know sand gun was good
jaunty wraith
ranger has some insane killtimes but thats just due to coin gun and sevens strik...
Just set up a good money farm
rotund shore
Didn’t know sand gun was good
I mean its like 30 damage with high attack rate
split mortar
Such lore discussion right now
rotund shore
pre boss, too
split mortar
I mean its like 30 damage with high attack rate
So like a mid point between mini and mega shark
rotund shore
34 damage with evil sand, as well
jaunty wraith
i love lore discsusion
Eh as long as a mod doesnt come in we're fine
violet sparrow
yeah
rotund shore
Eh as long as a mod doesnt come in we're fine
thats some real "it isn't illegal if we don't get caught" logic
but yeah back to lore
violet sparrow
no no keep talking about sand gun
rotund shore
what is yharims diet plan?
split mortar
Eat honey and cultivate bees
split mortar
no i dont like sand gun
But it’s advanced pocket sans techniques
pliant ruin
i have this NORMAL GUN that shoots BULLETS
rotund shore
i have this NORMAL GUN that shoots BULLETS
that does less damage smh
split mortar
i have this NORMAL GUN that shoots BULLETS
Well that’s boring
pliant ruin
thjats cuz terraria sucks and is stupid
split mortar
thjats cuz terraria sucks and is stupid
The stupid part I can agree with
violet sparrow
you ever had your skin sandblasted
rotund shore
how many npcs are canon criminals? obviously arms dealer due to illegal gun parts
split mortar
Throwing being ranged damage except for the times where it’s melee or mage
pliant ruin
Well that’s boring
if someone shoots you with a normal ass gun i dont think youre gonna be saying "wow thats so boring you should shoot me with sand instead because its so much cooler"
because you'll be DEAD
split mortar
Goblin tinkerer is a criminal to the goblins
hot valve
how many npcs are canon criminals? obviously arms dealer due to illegal gun part...
Bandit
Is well
Lmao
pliant ruin
it's in their name
hot valve
Yeah
pliant ruin
calamitas is a criminal of war
hot valve
Permafrost by extension probably could be put on trial
jaunty wraith
calamitas is a criminal of war
I can fix her
violet sparrow
shut up
jaunty wraith
But im sercretly bob the builder
rotund shore
bob the builder is cringe he can't fix calamitas
pliant ruin
I can fix her
i'm hitting you with a big hammer
wait no
i'm shooting you with my gun that shoots bullets and not sand
rotund shore
Hear me out, what if calamitas fixes herself, learns to better herself on her own without the help of john terrarian over here
split mortar
Would archmage permafrost? He did commit the illegal act in yharims territory of leaving peacefully
hot valve
I’m curious why wearing cosmilite armour doesn’t just give you immunity to almost every debuff the way it does for Devourer
pliant ruin
real answer:
split mortar
Draedons the no 1 eco terrorist so he def criminal
hot valve
You could just say gameplay and that’s like fine
rotund shore
draedon is a criminal but also who is gonna prosecute him
pliant ruin
in-universe explanation that is definitely not canon but might aswell:
dog's immunity probably dosen't come from the armor itself and more so because
split mortar
I’m curious why wearing cosmilite armour doesn’t just give you immunity to almos...
Simple, we wearing a much smaller piece of armour then dog, dog gets like 5 metre thick plating we get two inch thick
split mortar
Phase 1 should be immune to armour break and crunch since it has no armour
hot valve
Honestly I assume phase 1 Devourer will now be hurt by a lot of debuffs
jaunty wraith
He probably thought he could beat us easily, so he went in without armor. then when we survived more then a minute, he realized "Oh shit terrarians got hands" and quickly equiped his armor
split mortar
Honestly I assume phase 1 Devourer will now be hurt by a lot of debuffs
Except ichor, it’s used to god blood
pliant ruin
if ur not wearing any armor u can still get the debuff
violet sparrow
doubtful unless they figure out how to balance debuffs on worms
hot valve
Except ichor, it’s used to god blood
So real
rotund shore
debuffs on worms are horrific
violet sparrow
That’s the original reason they’re immune to debuffs
rotund shore
abyssal amulet + veering winds right click on its way to explode desert scourge in like 2 seconds
violet sparrow
not any lore thing
buoyant inlet
i think it would be very funny and original if sand gun had a hm upgrade that was called glass cannon
like yu get it
split mortar
debuffs on worms are horrific
Yeah, depth amulet on desert scourge proves that itself
hot valve
That’s the original reason they’re immune to debuffs
That’s actually really funny I didn’t even consider that
But it makes sense
jaunty wraith
doubtful unless they figure out how to balance debuffs on worms
Just divide the amount of debuff damage by the amount of segmants
split mortar
And so rare
rotund shore
The design is very worm
junior bramble
like 8 (6 if you count exo mech as 1 boss) bosses we fight are just from draedon lowkey he feels like a really big threat
split mortar
He is a really big threat
pliant ruin
Yeah alot of bosses r draedon's creations somehow
split mortar
It’s just that the only thing he will ever worry about is advancing science endlessly
hot valve
Draedon could wipe the planet easily if he wanted to
rotund shore
draedon is also part of the reason aquatic scourge is the way it is
pliant ruin
exo mechs, pbg, astrum aureus, mech bosses (though tbf mech bosses only partially)
pliant ruin
draedon is also part of the reason aquatic scourge is the way it is
ehhh disagree
aquatic scourge isn't mutated i don't think
split mortar
He could easily fix most ecological damage from the nano plague and sulphurous sea
violet sparrow
i think it would be very funny and original if sand gun had a hm upgrade that wa...
this guy’s cooking
pliant ruin
it's just a normal fish worm guy
jaunty wraith
Draedon could wipe the planet easily if he wanted to
Thats why yharim was terrifed by the existince of the exo mechs. even if theyre not quite as powerful as draedon claimed
junior bramble
i hope well get to fight him again in the futute for some proper stress testing
iirc exo mech fight is just we contact him and hes like thats weird lets throw my new toys at this thing
pliant ruin
i doubt other aquatic scourges from outside the sulphur sea look much different
junior bramble
which is kinda funny
split mortar
Thats why yharim was terrifed by the existince of the exo mechs. even if theyre ...
I think draedon just may not know of Xerocs power and thinks it’s weaker then the mechs
pliant ruin
i hope well get to fight him again in the futute for some proper stress testing ...
exo mechs r his strongest creation
rotund shore
exo mechs took him years and years to make
he won't have a stronger creation any time soon
pliant ruin
and we aren't getting any new bosses beyond yharim so that's not gonna happen unfortunately
junior bramble
isnt it that we create miracle matter in the fight with exo mechs?
pliant ruin
also yeah that
by all means
draedon could make smth stronger
and its almost guaranteed he will eventually if he wants to
split mortar
Weren’t they made for the terrarian to challange? I doubt it’s more then a year when we get to exo mechs
rotund shore
I think with a few re iterations of exo mechs, he could get them to surpass yharim in strength, but by the time he makes them, yharim won't be alive
pliant ruin
Weren’t they made for the terrarian to challange? I doubt it’s more then a year ...
they were made to rival or surpass yharim in power
not specifically for the terrarian
junior bramble
isnt it that we create miracle matter in the fight with exo mechs?
miracle mechs? 
pliant ruin
draedon def can make smth stronger than exo mechs
it just will take a rly long while
like
rly long while
high lynx
Is there a reason draedon hasn’t gone to space yet, other than having no reason?
rotund shore
Is there a reason draedon hasn’t gone to space yet, other than having no reason?
mostly since space travel is costly, and until the events of the game, the moon in particular was rather unsafe to go to
mighty zenith
Is there a reason draedon hasn’t gone to space yet, other than having no reason?
he doesn't want to
split mortar
I think most of the time may have been growing the Thanatos body armour cause growing that thing to perfect specifications sounds like it took the most time
mighty zenith
there's still things to discover in terraria
pliant ruin
which he plans to i believe, according to draetalk
high lynx
He has observed the astral infections though
junior bramble
Is there a reason draedon hasn’t gone to space yet, other than having no reason?
he does plan to eradicate the astral infection from all of reality and the universe
buoyant inlet
miracle mechs? <:thonk:359397580381224970>
No.
pliant ruin
and also yeah
he dosen't really want to leave the planet yet
alot of stuff for him to do here
high lynx
Thats what i thought
pliant ruin
so while hes probably gonna do some space exploration stuff soon according to draetalk it'll be like
buoyant inlet
i will respectfully kill you in real life if you make miracle mechs.
rotund shore
Draedon would rather 100% this planet before space travel, to put it in gamer erms
pliant ruin
exploring the moon for minerals and stuff
split mortar
Draedon is simple, if he sees no scientific or resource gain from something he will not care
high lynx
But why not send out satellites or something
pliant ruin
he's thinking of doing that already
rotund shore
exploring the moon for minerals and stuff
Wonder if he'll fine anything cooler then luminite
high lynx
Oh i see
pliant ruin
again, he wants to explore the moon for resources according to draetalk
or smth like that anyways
mighty zenith
i will respectfully kill you in real life if you make miracle mechs.
i will kill you direspectfully
split mortar
Would draedon know how to make miracle matter though, he does have sensors and trackers on the prisms and I assume forge so would he have stolen the recipe from us?
rotund shore
Wonder if he'll fine anything cooler then luminite
It doesn't appear he would have much use for it, considering the strongest of arsenal gear far outclasses what you can do with luminite
buoyant inlet
no i was adding onto your message
doesn't matter
junior bramble
Would draedon know how to make miracle matter though, he does have sensors and ...
i think he does he talks about it with you iirc
mighty zenith
doesn't matter
buoyant inlet
get here looser 👊
split mortar
i think he does he talks about it with you iirc
Yeah and he says it’s a dumb name
high lynx
How far can draedon see into space, because he can study a lot of those worms that eat the astral infection, and those are far apart in the universe.
mighty zenith
you can feel the "how is this idiot so smart" energy
rotund shore
draedon HATES all the names you give to things, I adore it
he's only willing to even chat with you like this for the potential this info he gives helps you in terms of the fight with yharim
split mortar
Draedon becomes a third superboss after seeing what we named things in the distortion and from xeroc
rotund shore
I forget, is xeroc their real name
split mortar
Well I assume Xeroc will drop stuff
split mortar
I forget, is xeroc their real name
I think
May be a moniker like Calamitas but I think it’s their name
split mortar
Well I assume Xeroc will drop stuff
And thus we name it
mighty zenith
I forget, is xeroc their real name
yharim says yharon said that's what they called themselves upon ascending
split mortar
A whole lot of he said he said this
split mortar
A whole lot of he said he said this
That’s basically most of our sources though
rotund shore
while it is kind of a game of telephone with such info, its not like yharim has any motive to lie about it
split mortar
For everything
mighty zenith
while it is kind of a game of telephone with such info, its not like yharim has ...
i mean yeah
rotund shore
unlike other things, where he very much DOES have a motive
mighty zenith
its not like the name has much significance afaik
split mortar
The name is like the one thing he has no reason to be biased against xeroc on
Everything else I will assume he is 99% bias and 50% straight up lying when it comes to xeroc
buoyant inlet
i had a devious idea for a message in this convo but it was probably not very appropriate lmao
ionic harness
share it for the vine
buoyant inlet
okay
buoyant inlet
its not like the name has much significance afaik
what if xeroc means like big dick in ancient dragon language or something
hoary berry
that was not what i was expecting at all
spring helm
huh...
jaunty wraith
what if xeroc means like big dick in ancient dragon language or something
I mean stealing the soul of the dragon king for yourself would clasify as a 'Big dick" move
ionic harness
i wasnt expecting that one
simple lodge
dude is there a book series or something how do i learn the lore
hoary berry
dude is there a book series or something how do i learn the lore
you can check the lore document in the pinned messages for everything in-game
simple lodge
you can check the lore document in the pinned messages for everything in-game
yoo allright
desert scourge was a sea serpent???
this look fire
dude im hyped
split mortar
dude im hyped
What you thinking of the lore so far?
mighty zenith
hell yeah
simple lodge
it kind of reminds me of percy jackson a little
hoary berry
i get unreasonably happy when i see someone discover how fun this lore is
mighty zenith
so true
i get genuinely happy when there's positivity in this channel
its surprisingly rare
simple lodge
yeah im a lore nerd whenever i start playing something :P
and this one is so far in my top 10
split mortar
yeah im a lore nerd whenever i start playing something :P
Understandable it can be nice flavour
hoary berry
yeah im a lore nerd whenever i start playing something :P
literally me with every game i play that has lore
split mortar
Nuclear bees
autumn mirage
Left side of the perforator lookin devious
split mortar
I have never noticed that
That god is loving it in the pain and madness that being in perforator brings
split mortar
like the mushrooms were a parasite???
Even in base terraria they are funnily enough
autumn mirage
One on the right looks like they hate it
split mortar
Though cal does take it to the extreme of it with crabulon
simple lodge
Even in base terraria they are funnily enough
I couldnt find any good base lore for terraria
so i dont know alot about it
mighty zenith
vanilla terraria lore isn't treated seriously
hot valve
There’s very minimal lore for base terraria
rotund shore
most "lore" in vanilla is shitposts red says, or bestiary
mighty zenith
like it was literally made up as a neat thing for an anniversary
split mortar
Like half the enemies in the mushroom biome are overtaken by mushrooms
Bestiary is basically all the lore
mighty zenith
and even then, most of it is completely useless
(for vanilla that is, cal bestiary is really cool)
rotund shore
calamity treasts the bestiary alot more seriously
and has some of the most raw lines imaginable
split mortar
Like the gold and gem critters just being copy and paste
rotund shore
Nuclear terror bestiary is simply 🔥 ✍️
mighty zenith
and has some of the most raw lines imaginable
provi and guardians entries my beloved
split mortar
Nuclear terror bestiary is simply 🔥 ✍️
I gotta get a look at that
rotund shore
provi and guardians entries my beloved
god yeah they're so good
split mortar
Oh damn yeah nukter is a good bestiary entry damn
pliant ruin
kill
kill kill kill kill
kill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill kill
mighty zenith
kill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill kill kill killkill...
calm down creature
pliant ruin
uh cheese you good?
mighty zenith
rgb reimu (i think, i dont know toehoe)
pliant ruin
ya thats reimo
rotund shore
touhou is cool but I am NOT good enough at bullet hell for it
split mortar
The profaned guardian bestiary entry’s be speaking liek it’s some religious texts
pliant ruin
i have touhou 16 on steam
its fun :3
wait actually is it 16
i forgor
i'm not super good at it or anything i never got to the last stage but its not that bad
like its not as hard as it seems tbh
split mortar
touhou is cool but I am NOT good enough at bullet hell for it
Would beating eternity mutant in under 10 attempts count as good enough to start?
pliant ruin
yes lol
pliant ruin
depending on the touhou game they can be easier or harder
but in general its not as hard as ppl make it out to be i feel atleast for the ones that arent batshit insane
mighty zenith
hardest bullet hell thing ive done is UTY geno route
||4 hours straight fighting martlet||
rotund shore
||4 hours straight fighting martlet||
it took me like, 25 attempts?
pliant ruin
my bad
rotund shore
25 attempts spread across a few days
mighty zenith
it took me like, 25 attempts?
meanwhile pacifist final boss that i first tried
rotund shore
paci final boss is a bullshit nohit, not a super hard fight
mighty zenith
granted i did fight the geno final boss at midnight
mighty zenith
paci final boss is a bullshit nohit, not a super hard fight
yea but i still see people struggling
rotund shore
Alot of people don't use the dash enough
pliant ruin
hardest boss ever is this guy
mighty zenith
yeah true
pliant ruin
rotund shore
the dash is free I frames, use it!!
mighty zenith
they dash once and mind immediately wanders off
pliant ruin
sorry i lied thats actually yur
pliant ruin
why would u do that :( im just a girl
mighty zenith
consume
pliant ruin
thats so mean
mighty zenith
cheese smoothie
split mortar
What does it do
rotund shore
What does it do
lower detection rate from abyss enemies
mighty zenith
i just wish enemy detection was clearer
sometimes they'll just... see you
give them like a sound effect when an enemy spots you
stark basalt
rotund shore
moonlord having such detailed eyes certainly distresses me
mighty zenith
i think its the regular eyes that make it worse
rotund shore
Yeah its just normal ass human eyes
mighty zenith
no i mean
split mortar
All the eyes should be the normal human ones
rotund shore
its a deadly combo
split mortar
i just wish enemy detection was clearer
Maybe amidias could give tip hints if you press help,
rotund shore
fovos looked at the dragons like that and most of them instantly perished
split mortar
Fovos weren’t much stronger then it is now but that look
mighty zenith
fovos looked at the dragons like that and most of them instantly perished
that extraterrestrial rizz
rotund shore
all fovos lost was the rizz
split mortar
Yes
rotund shore
if it still had the rizz then it could wipe out most of Terraria
pliant ruin
does ANYBODY use anechoic coating
i do
i have to get like a billion different items to explore the abyss anyways os might aswell
proud harbor
what things are yharim actualy scared of?
proud harbor
dungeon cleaning
rotund shore
the distortion is fucked up I cant blame him
pliant ruin
other than that we haven't see anything in particular that actually scared him but
its not like hes fearless so im sure he fears other things
split mortar
All we know is that almost everything related to it is stronger then moonlord
rotund shore
He's stronger then most things, and he realistically doesn't fear xeroc
so not much we really know hes afraid of
proud harbor
wait what gods created crimson and corruption?
rotund shore
wait what gods created crimson and corruption?
the specifics aren't know, just, an assortment of evil gods
split mortar
And only one entity (storm weaver) isn’t some eldritch abomination or a mountain sized behemoth that is the largest boss in modded terraria I’m pretty sure
proud harbor
so what is exactly providence and why didnt yharim killed her?
rotund shore
so what is exactly providence and why didnt yharim killed her?
providence was too sneaky to be killed
split mortar
Providence is a strong god, yharim just never got to killing her
proud harbor
yeah maybe cause her presence was mostly in the underworld
and him and calamitas probably arent to popular there
proud harbor
calamitas and brimstone elemental burned down the capital
split mortar
Yharim didn’t do anything to fuck up azafure
rotund shore
providence basically just blasted parts of yharims army, and then made a swift retreat before they could actually harm her
honestly providence is one of the biggest threats to Terraria during the events of the game, thank god we killed her
split mortar
Well calamitas was trying to stop brim
proud harbor
yeah i still dunno how the heck an army that bringed down multiple gods cant fight golem
proud harbor
true
pliant ruin
yeah i still dunno how the heck an army that bringed down multiple gods cant fig...
that was
old lore
split mortar
yeah i still dunno how the heck an army that bringed down multiple gods cant fig...
Old lore
pliant ruin
we talked about this the other day :p
proud harbor
that part of the lore got modified
split mortar
Golem is just a weird mechanical idol of the lihzard god that abandoned them
pliant ruin
everything did lol
proud harbor
we talked about this the other day :p
oh yeah i forgor
rotund shore
His army doesn't even interact with golem in new lore, he just leaves the lihzahrds to their own devices
proud harbor
so they dont camped down in the jungle temple
split mortar
Yeah like one elite soldier could wreck golem I’m pretty sure
split mortar
so they dont camped down in the jungle temple
Nope
proud harbor
then where were they?
rotund shore
they were nomadic iirc
spring helm
didnt the elite soldiers get the tier 4 arsenal equipment
pliant ruin
tier 4 is post ml right?
proud harbor
golem is pretty damn strong
just jump around it
pliant ruin
like the first tier of post ml
rotund shore
tier 4 is post ml right?
post provi
pliant ruin
ye then they could def kill golem
rotund shore
But yeah yharims strongest soldiers could eviscerate golem
rotund shore
golems a lad
split mortar
well depends on ur definition of elite osldier cuz like
Like cosmolite draedon arsenal is the elite soldier right?
rotund shore
Like cosmolite draedon arsenal is the elite soldier right?
cosmilite stuff was never given to yharims army
draedon kept it to himself
proud harbor
it has some projectile and a detachable head, comprared to a fairy queen or a queen bee with mgr addiction its not that good
split mortar
Then it was Uelibloom arsenal
pliant ruin
it has some projectile and a detachable head, comprared to a fairy queen or a qu...
well
spring helm
pliant ruin
they come later in progression
so
yeah
pbg and empress are stronger than golem
but golem is still pretty strong
spring helm
underworld schematic decryption message
rotund shore
golem is an honestly quite impressive creation on the lihzahrds part
pliant ruin
golem is stronger than all of draedon's creations minus the exos and pbg
as far as we know anyways
and like
proud harbor
like why didnt yharim tryed to stop the nanovirus from infecting the whole damn jungle
pliant ruin
it's nowhere near as advanced
pliant ruin
like why didnt yharim tryed to stop the nanovirus from infecting the whole damn ...
i don't think he can do that
well
rotund shore
the plague isn't stoppable, really
pliant ruin
maybe if he killed pbg
he could eventually cause it to recede
since it's the primary source
but it'd still spread
proud harbor
thats the point
rotund shore
Even after PBG dies, would realistically take ages to go away
rotund shore
not literal ages but yknow
pliant ruin
the only person that really can stop it is draedon
spring helm
the way draedon talks about the plague seems to imply that he can just stop it whenever he wants
spring helm
but he dont wanna
proud harbor
but prob not just to mock yharim
rotund shore
even if yharim really wanted to get rid of the plague, its not like draedon owes yharims any favors, much less such a big one like ridding of the palgue
split mortar
Draedon fucked if yharim finds out draedon can just disable the nano virus
spring helm
nah draedon's not petty like that
draedon just wants to see how far the nanoplague can evolve
pliant ruin
no reason to ''mock'' yharim
ye
hes not petty
he just dont wanna
he wants to see where it goes
rotund shore
draedon will keep the plague as long as it gives fascinating data
mighty zenith
Draedon fucked if yharim finds out draedon can just disable the nano virus
he's really not
rotund shore
and who knows how long that'll be
mighty zenith
i don't think draedon was ever threatened by yharim
pliant ruin
or when he gets tired of it
also yeah draedon rly isnt
fucked
yharim cannot do jackshit to him tbh 😭
spring helm
just threaten draedon to stop it honestly
rotund shore
killing draedon simply isn't feasible
mighty zenith
destroy a recon body?
split mortar
Didn’t it take ages for draedon to make the Exo mechs, I’m sure yharim could beat them
proud harbor
wait where did draedon gone after departing from yharim
pliant ruin
draedon himself though uhhh yeah he ain't doing shit to him
spring helm
"Draedon, if you don't shut off the nanoplague I'm not going to throw it back for you anymore"
pliant ruin
wait where did draedon gone after departing from yharim
his own lab
rotund shore
wait where did draedon gone after departing from yharim
just to his own secluded research, I assume in a far away lab
pliant ruin
ye
split mortar
Yharim will pull up the moonlord face
mighty zenith
probably just the lab he woke up in
split mortar
On his auric phone
proud harbor
bro has the best gaming chair teleporting from place to place
pliant ruin
Like
split mortar
probably just the lab he woke up in
That’s on a separate planet
pliant ruin
no matter how strong yharim is
scenic yacht
That’s on a separate planet
No
mighty zenith
That’s on a separate planet
whar
split mortar
I thought
pliant ruin
he's not gonna be able to kill draedon
split mortar
I may need to re read the draedon log
mighty zenith
I may need to re read the draedon log
its from draetalk
split mortar
Yharm would be a huge hinderance
spring helm
it's kinda crazy that Moon Lord's presence stopped Draedon from going to the moon considering that he can make robots that would eviscerate ML
split mortar
its from draetalk
Meant that
pliant ruin
it's kinda crazy that Moon Lord's presence stopped Draedon from going to the moo...
I imagine he didn't want to risk damaging his finest creations with smth like that
rotund shore
it's kinda crazy that Moon Lord's presence stopped Draedon from going to the moo...
I'll be frank, draedon likely didn't know how strong fovos currently is
proud harbor
wait i dont understand something, so desert scourge was an aquatic scourge before, then why theres a s big strenght gap between the two
pliant ruin
maybe he just thought he'd not be this weakened
rotund shore
but is well aware of how strong they once were from history books, not worth the risk, really
pliant ruin
wait i dont understand something, so desert scourge was an aquatic scourge befor...
it wasn't
mighty zenith
it's kinda crazy that Moon Lord's presence stopped Draedon from going to the moo...
if i had to guess, he didnt want fovos to fuck up the world
rotund shore
wait i dont understand something, so desert scourge was an aquatic scourge befor...
they aren't the same species
pliant ruin
aquatic scourge and desert scourge are entirely different, they're just related
split mortar
it's kinda crazy that Moon Lord's presence stopped Draedon from going to the moo...
Draedon didn’t know the state moonlord would be in, do t think anyone did, what if moonlord was full power? Everyone would die before Xeroc stops it
proud harbor
oh
mighty zenith
think like
alligators and crocodiles
pliant ruin
desert scourge was part of a seemingly now extinct or almost extinct species of sea serpents that lived in illmeris
mighty zenith
yeah they share similarities
pliant ruin
aquatic scourge is a oceanic species that as far as we know is doing pretty good
mighty zenith
but they're different
proud harbor
Draedon didn’t know the state moonlord would be in, do t think anyone did, what ...
moonlord alr have a 50% discount on his body, i dont think it would be on full power
sinful adder
Draedon does not want to take unnecessary risks. He would not be able to know how strong Fovos is, so he would prepare to be at least as strong as Fovos was before investigating the moon
pliant ruin
Yeah i imagine that's why
He couldn't know exactly how strong fovos was, even if it was weakened
split mortar
moonlord alr have a 50% discount on his body, i dont think it would be on full p...
Who’s to say people could see that moonlord was on the 50% discount?
mighty zenith
people havent seen moon lord in like a millenia
spring helm
i know cosmilite is stronger than luminite but i am curious to see what draedon could do with it
proud harbor
fair enought
pliant ruin
So he wouldn't risk his finest creations in fighting it, specially when i doubt going to the moon was his priority rn
proud harbor
wait so moonlord is fovos?
split mortar
i know cosmilite is stronger than luminite but i am curious to see what draedon ...
Limonite seems to be quite reactive to celestial magics so it may have some uses beyond cosmolite
split mortar
wait so moonlord is fovos?
Yup
spring helm
yeah they're the same guy
split mortar
Fovos was the name given by dragons, called moonlord cause it was on the moon and is strong
proud harbor
noxus was created by absorbing an auric soul to right?
hoary berry
i don't think it's stated the dragons gave it the name fovos, just that fovos is the name it was known by at the time
pliant ruin
nope
hoary berry
noxus was created by absorbing an auric soul to right?
we know nothing about noxus other than it lives in the distortion and is dog's master of sorts
pliant ruin
noxus is a guy
spring helm
noxus was created by absorbing an auric soul to right?
we know nothing about noxus as of now
pliant ruin
its not a god
proud harbor
ah
pliant ruin
but it's . in the distortion. and its really strong. like really strong
rotund shore
a guy but really really strong
proud harbor
the distortion is like the gap between dimensions or what
pliant ruin
we don't know exactly what it is
but it's not exactly another dimension entirely
atleast according to devs
hoary berry
it's a really really old place
pliant ruin
seems to be more of a pocket dimension type thing
hoary berry
based on draedon's research
proud harbor
noxus or xeroc is the stronger?
hoary berry
noxus or xeroc is the stronger?
xeroc
spring helm
seems to be more of a pocket dimension type thing
not another dimension
a pocket dimension
hoary berry
xeroc is the strongest character in cal
proud harbor
reasonable
pliant ruin
> not another dimension
> a pocket dimension
they're DIFFERENT!!!
hoary berry
> not another dimension
> a pocket dimension
i think cheese meant it isn't necessarily an entirely separate thing, just hidden away from the rest of our dimension?
proud harbor
ok who knows scp 106?
spring helm
IT'S THE ETERNAL NIGHT THAN PRIMORDIAL LIGHT BANISHED I TELL YOU I'M NOT CRAZY THIS IS ALL ONE BIG CONSPIRACY BY XEROC HE KNO-
rotund shore
xeroc more like uhm cringe
hoary berry
gasp
spring helm
ok who knows scp 106?
old man
proud harbor
i would say pocket dimension is a place thats under the control of a being and has some gaps connected to reality
man i finna realised the pic on dokuros spotify songs is the DoG
i feel so f dumb
jaunty wraith
So we know that xeroc has the power to channel primordial light which is what makes him powerful
But there's another character that can do that, empress of light
Think there is a connection between the two?
split mortar
It is said she is sickeningly obedient
So I think it may be like a profaned guardian providence situation
But Xeroc gives even less light
Then prov does flame
jaunty wraith
It says she can still channel through the stars
split mortar
Even then it is a smidge of a tiny speck or something
split mortar
No, the lore item says it’s only starlight at night not primordial light
split mortar
What if more bosses had dialogue
Would be cool but I don’t think many can talk,
jaunty wraith
Providence is one I think of
split mortar
Due to lack of intelligence or a lack of the vocal cords
split mortar
Providence is one I think of
Oh yeah I can see her talking
jaunty wraith
Maybe the profaned guardians too
split mortar
Yeah
jaunty wraith
We know yharon can speak
jaunty wraith
They told Yharim the story of xeroc
split mortar
Ah right
jaunty wraith
Hard to do that without vocal cords
split mortar
Yeah fair
jaunty wraith
(unless it's a telepathic backstory)
split mortar
Yharon doesn’t seem to be able to do telepathy since it’s a rebirth fire pheonix not a telapath dragon
jaunty wraith
Maybe anahita and brimstone elemental?
They aren't confirmed to be able to talk but it's not to far of a stretch if that was the case
split mortar
Yeah
jaunty wraith
Maybe empress of light and moonlord too?
split mortar
Though brim def seems like they would be silent in sorrow, if you have boss checklist the boss defeating everyone message hints at them regretting the massacre of azafure
Don’t think moonlord would, not enough flesh, doesn’t seem the type and I doubt we can comprehend what it says
jaunty wraith
If there's any boss that will get dialogue in the future, providence should be the one
Maybe it can give some backstory of why she's so nilalistic
split mortar
Yeah that would be cool to have
pliant ruin
Though brim def seems like they would be silent in sorrow, if you have boss chec...
I don't really see
the boss checklist message to be really
indicating that
I mean it could be interpreted as that if you'd like but that's more so headcanon material
pliant ruin
Maybe it can give some backstory of why she's so nilalistic
I imagine provi will get alot more backstory once her human design and etc drops
But idk if she'd talk to you
She seems a bit too
murderous to really want to talk
I can see her talking but i can also see her literally not saying anything not because she can't but because she's 105% focused on killing you and dosen't bother giving you as much as the right to hear her voice
split mortar
From the wiki “the elemental ever maintains her sombre vigil over azafure* sombre can mean sad
pliant ruin
somber just generally means something gloomy or melancholic
it dosen't necessarily mean
brim is sad over her destroying azafure
it can be interpreted as that but saying it's outright hinting as that is a bit of a reach
jaunty wraith
I imagine provi will get alot more backstory once her human design and etc drops
Im sure the calamity gooners will treat her human design with respect
split mortar
Im sure the calamity gooners will treat her human design with respect
I’m sure they have already done stuff to the inhuman fire rock form
pliant ruin
i mean they won't but whatever
i'm desensitized to it at this point it's better to just
ignore it
split mortar
The internet will internet might aswell just ignore it cause it will happen either way
jaunty wraith
I’m sure they have already done stuff to the inhuman fire rock form
Don't they plan on overhauling that design too?
split mortar
Looks pretty detailed and nice so I don’t see why they would
pliant ruin
They will ye
Provi's design isn't bad and the sprite is pretty recent buttt i can understand why they'd want to change it
I don't think it's a bad design but it can definitely be changed given it's a bit cluttered
jaunty wraith
theres gonna be a big rework of providence and uelibloom
pliant ruin
Like it's not bad but it can be better
split mortar
Unless it comes with a revamp I think the re design should probably be low on their checklist
eager bluff
Don't they plan on overhauling that design too?
there are no plans to at the moment
eager bluff
theres gonna be a big rework of providence and uelibloom
also no it will be a removal of uelibloom with it being replaced with a more appropriately themed item set
pliant ruin
Regarding bosses that can talk
I think alot of bosses could theoretically talk in some way but they just don't
pliant ruin
there are no *plans* to at the moment
There are though, aren't there?
split mortar
They’re focusing on a fight for their life
jaunty wraith
Quite a few bosses, especially early game are just instical animals or monsters against nature
pliant ruin
Human provi + Provi redesign
pliant ruin
Quite a few bosses, especially early game are just instical animals or monsters ...
Yeah alot of them are just irrational/animalistic
but even alot of the ones that are sapient i feel probably just wouldn't really bother talking to you
visual kiln
jaunty wraith
The only prehard mode boss that may even have the slightest chance of talking is slime god as he seems to have some tactical inteligence. but probably doesnt have vocal cords to talk
eager bluff
Human provi + Provi redesign
human provi isnt gonna be in game and afaik there are no plans to actually resprite provi, pretty sure thats just for fun
pliant ruin
human provi isnt gonna be in game and afaik there are no plans to actually respr...
Human provi is nto gonna be ingame ye but theres also gonna be a provi redesign
pliant ruin
Like the one u actually fight ingame
visual kiln
would be cool
pliant ruin
The only prehard mode boss that may even have the slightest chance of talking is...
Slime god i imagine can definitely talk or atleast communicate somehow
split mortar
I think there’s plenty of bosses that can be respected before providence
pliant ruin
Like i don't think they have vocal chords but like
The very existence of gods already defies any semblance of logic as is so
split mortar
I feel slime god can shapeshift the cords to talk
pliant ruin
I don't think they really
visual kiln
The very existence of gods already defies any semblance of logic as is so
nor rlly
eager bluff
Human provi is nto gonna be ingame ye but theres also gonna be a provi redesign
yes i know im saying as far as im aware that redesign is for fun and not actually going to be in game unless its another scal situation
pliant ruin
need to have vocal chords
visual kiln
so they dont defy logic
pliant ruin
or nature
split mortar
Neither do not godly biological beings
I don’t think devourer follows laws of biology
jaunty wraith
Where talking about logic in a game where you carry 5000 tons of gold
pliant ruin
like i dont think having vocal cords or not matter for a god's ability to speak or not
given slime god theoretically was a person that turned into a ball of goop that seemingly has absolutely no human traits whatsoever
and it can fly
and it can manipulate slime
eager bluff
follow laws of biology
i mean
a few of them arent even biological (see: provi) 
so its not like following the laws of biology is that important
split mortar
They can just magic the sounds into reality
jaunty wraith
ISnt she just made of rock and molten magma?
pliant ruin
most of the pre hm bosses are either irrational evil things or animals so
split mortar
And holy fire
pliant ruin
ye other than slime god
i don't think any of them would be able to talk
hardmode it gets a bit more interesting tho coz i totally believe brimmy and anahita can talk
eager bluff
i don't think any of them would be able to talk
no clearly eow would be able to 
pliant ruin
i ASSUME silva can talk in some way
given she had like worshippers and i ASSUME she communicated with those worshippers somehow
split mortar
I assume she can
jaunty wraith
Well silva is still alive technically
pliant ruin
plus i ASSUME that braelor being her champion and all that probably is atleast amiable with her
so it's like
if silva can talk why wouldnt the other elementals
eager bluff
earth definitely cant because yeah
split mortar
Ancient eidolon wyrm didn’t kamehamaha her into nothingness when she fell so I assume she convinced it to not do that
pliant ruin
earth is a robot guy tbf he dosent count
jaunty wraith
What about the mech bosses?
pliant ruin
Ancient eidolon wyrm didn’t kamehamaha her into nothingness when she fell so I a...
Well
There's nothing to kamehameha
she was already dead
"dead"
and i don't see why pw would do that
it's just a big fish guy
it don't care
probably
pliant ruin
What about the mech bosses?
Those are also interesting
They're sapient
But like
idk if they can talk or not
split mortar
Doesn’t it hate gods, it certainly would fight xeroc despite the strength difference
pliant ruin
It hates primordial light specifically
eager bluff
yeah
jaunty wraith
Doesn’t it hate gods, it certainly would fight xeroc despite the strength differ...
I think thats what silva intended
pliant ruin
Considering silva literally blessed it it probably dosen't really outright hates gods
jaunty wraith
Though according to the bestiary entry, it doesnt stand a chance agaisnt xeroc
pliant ruin
idk if they can talk or not
I think having them not talk would be fitting
Given
They're god knows how many souls of murderous war criminals crammed in robotic bodies
Like these guys are basically just polterghast lite
split mortar
The mech bosses are 59 skilled terrorists inside a mech suite to make them even more lethal in their specialisation per boss
jaunty wraith
If polterghast could speak, it would be 100 voices speaking diffrent things at once
split mortar
The bosses drop like not even 50 of their souls
jaunty wraith
What about signus?
pliant ruin
Signus is a tricky one
We know legit like
nothing about that guy
I am of the belief signus was once a human or atleast a mortal that somehow turned into a distortion beast but that's 100% headcanon with little to no actual evidence
jaunty wraith
same to say ceasless void can't. and storm weaver seems for more animalistic then the devourer
pliant ruin
Ceaseless isn't even alive so yeah
storm weaver is another case of we barely know anything abt it
I don't think we can even solidly say if it's animalistic or not
jaunty wraith
We do know a bit thanks to draedon
We know that he could be even older then the devourer
But we don't know if he serves the distortion or just vibed there
split mortar
I’m pretty sure everything if the distortion serves it to some degree
pliant ruin
well we know it's not part of the distortion hive mind
so i imagine it's either just doing it's own thing or it's a special case like devourer
pliant ruin
tbh we don't even know what noxus is let alone if it can talk lmao
split mortar
Im pretty sure it can