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something about it being too powerful for even the dragons iirc
fair
how was fovos sealed inside the moon
is the moon hollow
is there a subworld on the moon
living
spawning all the matter of a moon does seem a bit far fetched
they just melted the cheese, stuffed fovos inside and then froze it
do we teleport fovos out of the moon
I assumed that fovos wasn't physically inside the moon
the moon is still intact post ml
Like probably bound to it or smth
Just bit into a cherry and the pit shattered into the cherry
why did you bite through the pit
who tf eats cherries
I didn't mean to it just broke
more like who doesn't
me
I think you're the weird one here
there are 6000 better fruits
Cherries taste good though
i am on coke's side regarding cherries
mango, watermelon, apple, pear, grapes, the list goes on
oh right lore discussion
Fruits aren't better or worse than one another generally
Strawberry
which character would like cherries the most
Variety is the spice of life
Poopersailing time
any berry solos cherries
none of them they are all based
I'm killing you for discussing calamity and food together for the 100000000000th time
grapefruit
grapefruit is worse then all of them
i'm lazy and want to eat the fruit whole instead of spitting out the pit
okay true but squirt is the best soda
(creating all of the earth's moon through energy-matter conversion would be dwarf star level)
who 🗣️
you should bite into an avocado
nuh uh
the real worst fruit is an orange
why do people actually like them...
whaf
based
im a citrus hater
The small ones are good
this is the wildest take I've seen all day
besides lemon and lime
acceptable
you opinion irrelevant nerd
shut up nerd
oranges are good and have the best candy flavor
cherries are ok
artificial cherry flavour is garbage
orange is the one fruit ive never seen junk food manufacturers save the flavor of
fuck yea oranges are amazing
mangos are better tho
what the fuck
banning you for this one
ok wow i posted the complete opposite take of daichin on accident
bro what fucking fruit do you like
actually blue raspberry is the best candy flavor
there is no fucking universe
based
where somones favourite flavour candy
actually why does blue raspberry exist
is orange
Grape
blue raspberry ain’t even a real fruit😭
Am aware
itll never be real
blackberries are close enough
who decided to make raspberry flavour blue
wake up
I always come back
Alr had 2 reds
bro think he william afton
ratioberries
scientist should make it real
you make it
how
Take raspberry, inject blue food coloring
It exists because there were already too many red fruit candy flavors (cherry, watermelon, strawberry, etc.) So they arbitrarily made raspberry blue
artificial cherry flavor is nice
blue raspberry is peak
orange got me the closest to puking in years last time i gave it a shot
watermelon flavor is usually nice but some brands fuck it up real bad
grape will never not taste like medicine
and i dont enjoy strawberry much unless its starburst
i cant wait to play god when im older
cocacola espuma
??? cherry is medicine flavour
just remember not to play god with ants

mfw almost every fruit and vegetable is a GMO
im talking artificial cherry flavor (and artificial everything else too)
based
actual cherries taste like medicine yeah
god bless human advancement
Humans started creating GMOs before we knew what a gene was
Jesus christ I made 1 comment about cherries and now we're completely off topic
cherries are in terraria
cherraria
Fair enough
just a normal wheel of cheese
omni what if you were powder💥
kinda
nawnawnanw
i wouldnt call selective breeding and genetic engineering the same
even the romans knew how to make tomatoes 4x larger
I think that any plant that was artificially created by humans is considered a GMO but I might be wrong
🤨
its like borderline
yeah
skee-bidee
the SKBD
skibiden
oh i forgot to send my drawing
your cooking license is revoked
bro is revokemaxxing
"covid... i skibidi with... uhm"
blufthersoningtron is covidmaxxed out 🗣️
i pested tovitive for bovid
yharimo prototype
the entity
yharim car
yharim car
carim
yharoro
yharimobile
as opposed to yharo
yharo
aron
john aaron
yharim, real name jake
i drew him at church so he's a little rounder than the others
bro named jake really doing genocide
yharim real name... jacobb,,,,,... jacobb bison,,,,..,,
yharim's thoughts on churches
i love fandom wiki

💥
would yharim try to destroy all religions in the real world only to get gobberfuckstomped by the Military Industrial Complex ™️
Yharim solos
:3
incorrect
yharim dies to nuke
I think he can take most nukes actually
at least city level
dont make me tap the sign
He can tank that crap
but can he take all of the nukes
lemme check wait a sec
I dont think the Egyptian gods consumed auric souls so i think he wouldnt care
ark of the cosmos, which rips the fabric of reality, is post yharon, meaning anything past that is at least universal 
does yharim have 2 trillion health
it'd suck if they did cause then he'd have to kill scooby doo 😔
yharim would come into our world and make people censor g*ds to avoid triggering him
based on storm weaver's rainstorms being 7 to 8 megatons, I think anything of that tier he can take given how Yharim should be far more powerful than Storm Weaver causing rainstorms
yharim would be suspicious of religions that don't describe the origins of their gods
I mean to him they'd all probably just be "fake" gods, like Astrum Deus
gods in name but not like
yharim vs A-10 Warthog
based on sheer damage yharim gets obliterated thousands of times over
based
what's a better name to commit genocide with
yknow bro I'm killing you
not jake 😭
why is this mf namd after coca cola
That Man
columbus
but do you have 2 trillion health
no
cococolo
jake 
you sure it isn't cocaine
at least 2 quintillion
no
you should change your name to pepsi on april 1st
lame joke
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every time
i love coke
weaver solos
Yo is Stained, Brutal Calamity still lore accurate
sort of
except those two lines or so
Stained brutal calamity uses tts voices for its vocals
basedf
coke can you change my nickname
coke, change this user into Devourer of Bods
ok
ok
thanks
Serious lore question
Would Cal wear a suit or a dress to a formal event
she would wear skibidi toilet shirt with titan tv man cause she loves ksibidfi toilet
her when skibidi toilet
bad joke
would ravager wear a suit or dres
i sorry
Dress
is he girlypop
eldritch
hey coke can you change my name to eggg, enveloper of enbies
no
oh ok
shut up
shut up

based
cmt is something
something foul
Open calamity mod talk
The first time I joined this server I went to cmt because it seemed like the "main channel" and immediately got harassed within my first conversation
lol!
cmt sucks
Lore discussion seems to be a mostly self-isolated bubble of the same users
occasionally strange users show up though
True
A
everyone jokes about cmt but its like
yea
genuinely really really bad
its just like a groupchat
its like a 4/10
I've seen much worse
(omoricord vast forest)
((the entirety of polygon donut discord))
I love the military industrial complex !!!!!!!!!!
yharim can't auric reject a fighter plane
it can carry a nuke
So can I
damn
can yharim survive thermonuclear blast
mister strong man over here
💪
Omni thinks that yharim can survive a thermonuclear blast
wtf I agree with you though
Depends
i think there's a good chance for yharim to survive a nuclear explosion
I don't think yharim could even hit an f-35
yea
Is the Gauss Nuke on Ares an actual nuke
Right, the actual nuclear stuff comes from Sulphur Sea
Probably fly
Fly up and use momentum capacitator
If Yharim can't beat an F-35, then the US military completely kicks the Calamity world's ass
jump
i think it most definitely does
like
1000 nukes
Actually
I think we're massively underestimating how much shit can get thrown at these guys before they die
US military shreds a lot of very strong characters
bro how does yharim reach the jet
^
not fast enough i think
I think xeroc might actually win agaisnt the US military though
can fly, uses lightspeed, etc
Xeroc's continental-tier or something right
Oh yeah btw thought I'd update you on some stuff
Country Level
no
Take it or leave it :3
Ooh
Awesome
sepulcher is no longer dog 
epic
Easily
The Metastasis's rain of terror finally falls
I think the US military is about country level too, but they're several things working together rather than than one consolidated entity and therefore have weaknesses to exploit that xeroc doesn't have
I love how Metastasis' name fits so well
It sounds kinda random but it's literally
The festering cancer that is arrogance
Is Noxus actually planet-level or is the QnA wrong
No the strongest individual nuke ever detonated is City Level+ and not even made by the US, so not really
no chat, the US military could not beat Xeroc 😭
QnA is wrong cause pushingtron
You're right
Xeroc would win
To be fair, the US could make more or less a continent uninhabitable due to the radiation
is power level scaled by the force of one individual attack only?
👍
In most cases
but it'd still be there
Yeah, which is why I put "uninhabitable" in quotations
that's individual nukes
they have thousands
yeah then US military is definitely not country level
Yes
They can't take out a country in one attack
Every individual nuke is still Island Level
theres like 1000
we do
russia has more
The US already has 5500 iirc
damn
And that's not all nukes in the world
why do we have those
Most of them don't work anymore tho
cause its funny
Idk
arms race
yeah that's the thing
Some thing happened about 50 years ago
But yeah, no the actual destruction of a nuke is very overrated
Forgot what it was called
It's the lasting effects that are truly dangerous
war cold
REB COOK 🙏
The radiation is what makes nukes so scary
Real
i dont think xeroc care about radiation tbh,,..
The smallest nuclear warhead still gives off enough radiation to kill someone from miles away
Like yes in real life a nuke is horrific as shit, but in fictional debates nukes are very overrated honestly, unless it's idk Godzilla or Goku
If you want to end life with a nuke, you don't make a planet-cracker. You make a cobalt bomb
Well, ok a nuke is still strong enough to kill an entire city worth of people, most of it in the blast itself and many more due to radiation poisoning, however they kill a lot of people due to shrapnel, earthquakes, wind currents and heat
Not due to vaporizing them with the blast
I want to create a giant metal rod and accelerate it to 99.99999999% the speed of light and throw it at every inhabited planet outside of earth
To destroy the planet you need literal quadrillions to quintillions of times the energy that every nuke ever created exploding at once would release
but i dont think xeroc cares about earthquake or wind current or heat
If Tsar detonated at full power, it could've been Mountain level, but it only went off at around half
That's the peak of raw nuclear destruction
Exactly. It's just not practical
Yes lol
I mean, sorry but Xeroc isn't going to care about glass coming at high speeds to him 
why not
just trap xeroc with mirrors 
Xeroc would most definitely survive any individual nuke
blast is like the only thing threatening xeroc and he could just
is xeroc's physical body immune to glass
move
Ok, tbf
J guile
If a nuke detonated point blank on Xeroc
or wait no
He'd probably be fucked
whos the fucker from part 5 with the mirror stand
hanged man is just reflections
Idk
US military can definitely take him then
xeroc can be evaporated by a point-blank nuke, noted
i feel like he stil just move tho
Where do you think Xeroc scales
yeah they just have to get to him :trololo:
I mean more like he'd probably come out of it with third degree burns and half of his skin peeled off but
Not dead

Insane
It's not an easy fight, but it's very winnable if a point-blank nuke takes him out
new lore drop hes susceptible to third degree burns
It's not easy to hit a nuke point blank on someone
is holding the bonds between atoms together part of his skillset
but how get a nuke to bro
he could move out the way
he could probably also just delete the nuke
well
new gruesome eminence description "I got some jelly beans"
xeroc vs the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs
Specially when Xeroc is by all means faster than any jet ever
interesting
A hypersonic weapon is a weapon capable of travelling at hypersonic speed, defined as between 5 and 25 times the speed of sound or about 1 to 5 miles per second (1.6 to 8.0 km/s).
Below such speeds, weapons would be characterized as subsonic or supersonic, while above such speeds, the molecules of the atmosphere disassociate into a plasma which ...
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tbh, the asteriod fucking killed majority of life and left earth inhabitable for like
yes
Asteroid wins
The chicxulub impactor?
I think the asteroid takes this, the direct impact already outscales all of calamity
yes
is xerocs reaction speed reallly good
Ok yeah no Xeroc would probably die if the Chixulub fell on top of him
the 72 teraton impact
xeroc vs the sun is still a clap though
which, is country level+, but also millions of times greater than every nuke combined
mf controls sunlight
I looked it up on google and it sent a meteor on my screen
Beyond outerversal
lol
lmao why does it do that
he controls primordial light from the far smaller calamity sun
The irl sun stomps xeroc
the irl sun is, as expected, star level
is xeroc radiation proof guys
what if we just give him like melanoma
Xeroc with sunscreen solos
what if I spawned a tiny black hole inside of xeroc's body huh wouldn't that be funny
I think he'd die
xeroc dies
black holes can't be killed
what if... i thrown the asteriod apophis. that would be a funny prank wouldnt it?
i could
anything you try to attack them with will just go inside
i dont know 😭 what the fuck
why does this happen
goofy google
and me
not the calamity type of entropy though
what if I threw Xeroc in the ophiuchus supercluster eruption
Draedon missed his chance to invent nukes apparently
I mean the real existential dread entropy
guys what if i threw a planet at xeroc
He'd probably die
Guys what if xeroc was called freakroc
the kind that makes me lay down and look up at the ceiling and wonder why I even get up in the morning
I'm fairly sure he has a comment about nukes on Draetalk
But if you're curious
(it was the most energetic explosion recorded in the universe)
😭
Because you can beat it ong
and instead of being the god of primordial light
Draedon hates nukes because they are stupidly destructive and he has no reason to destroy and turn an area so inhospitable because it destroys any chance of research he could have in it
He mentions nuclear waste at least
haha weak
the goat
That makes sense though
draedon vs the USSR and the US during the cold war
dardon
lmao no
make a yt shorts edit out of this
If he hates irradiated wastelands so bad why doesn’t he rebuild the sulphuric sea like he said he could
phonk music
Is he a fraud?
If the US can beat yharim they can beat draedon
draedon is stupid idiots
i think the US can beat them both tbh
Because the Sulphurous Sea has plenty of life and potential research on its own
With relative ease
yea
the US doesn't have the same problem as the terrarian does when it comes to figuring out where all of draedon's bodies are and eliminating the.
Modern militaries are cracked
caps at city level 
seal team 6 gonna fight draedon
thats hussein
draedon vs
20 foot burmese python
that's over 1400 ft
do y'all believe me when I say that Dalamadur making its muscles twitch unironically solos calverse 
can you make the "my body is a machine that turns x into y" meme but make it say "my body is a machine that turns well-written characters into crafting materials" please I can't do it I'm trapped on mobile
On it sir!
Like fists only?
yea
Everyone knows that boxer baddie biden can throw hands
"gameplay comes before lore"
he might forget to
what does this have to do
😭😭😭
The monerhuner creature cannot instantly kill the random guy who runs around and swings a big sword by twitching its muscles
the random guy is busted like that
Or else it would to save its own life
It's been an honor
the random guy is cracked
he takes moon level beatings and still solos
Cat solos calamity verse
Its a cat lamity
again, gameplay>lore and apart from being strong enough to swing a big sword or lance they just behave like a normal guy
HIS NAME IS MONSTER HUNTER
what kind of assumptions are we making here
John Monster Hunter
Well I mean just look at the regular mh gameplay
the guy just
I know but like
runs around
that's just ignoring stuff that is stated and confirmed to happen in-universe
I mean yeah but
Let’s just agree that goku solos the verse
also attack potency isn't destructive capacity, that always is the case in fiction
Yeah, definitely
why do the lore writers for mh make the most insane world shattering lore for a big ass lizard or smth
John Wulfrum vs Goku
idk, it's not common though
since well
John Wulfrum wins with prep time
true ig
Skyrim guy lowkey solos fire breathing Barney
the skyrim dragonborn is actually insane lore-wise AND gameplay wise but for 2 entirely different reasons
Couldn’t his shout be heard across all of Skyrim or something?
I haven’t touched the game in years
The dragonborn is supposedly an incarnation of ysmir
who is lorkhan
who is the dead god whose body makes up the fundamental foundations of Nirn
or no
his body doesn't
He made Nirn with the power of other gods who donated it to him
his body is actually both of Nirn's moons
And lorkhan's "soul" is basically physics itself
Along with the earthbones
man elder scrolls lore is fucking whack
It's like an actual world in and of itself
There's so much lore and it's all inconsistent and conflicting
just like the real world
Gotta love the world building tho
Feels lived in
Part of me wishes cal could get that big
yeah that's what I mean
But part of me doesn’t
cal doesn't need to
in celebration of DoG's resprite being completed, I wanted to remake this image
unfortunately, new DoG is so fucking big it kept crashing my MSPaint
i mean i still did it in the end, but that was a hassle
😭😭😭
Yhar
Yhar deserves it
L

Thanatos can probably go into his mouth and melt him from the inside
I kinda wonder how a single mech would do against dog
Cuz it took 4 mechs in sync to be on the same totem of power as Calamitas
They probably won't win
Might be close though idk
if each one is a third of scal's strength I think it's reasonable they can't win
i think they're individually well below a third of Scal
the whole point of them working together is that their synergy makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts
But that shit had her pretty high
Well scal has her own summons which support her
If you take away brothers, the two sepulchers and the supreme soul seekers her fight is much shorter
i dont think brothers doing much against exos
well we're comparing one exo mech to dog not scal to exos
tru
Two exo mechs should probably be enough for dog
Maelstrom solos DoG 💪💪💪
this is true
Godzilla solos
scal just sends maelstrom into his throat like a fucked up pill
I miss angry face balls
metroid prime lookin mf
holy fuck the arbiter
no way
ripa 'moramee
hmm
https://youtu.be/E4J-yenw0oA?si=nWAWYil9LQTEps_c i want this song to play when yharim dies tbh
I say it like yarr(like a pirate)-rim
yeh-rim
also what if you're supposed to roll the r
where did the w come from
I was referring to how to pronounce it
also its clearly yall-rim
southern yharim
yharim could probably make a sad western country song about his life
woah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
story of calami-💥
ban this user
i pronounce it "yah-rim"
also who pronounces draedon as "dra-eh-done"? (i don't pronounce it like that)
hey chat
and do you pronounce calamitas as "ca-la-mii-tas" or "cla-mii-tas"?
first one
same
glam-uh-tis
I wish they would change calamitas's name
to what
susan
the -tas at the end just doesn't roll off the tongue
😭
just say it different
literally anything else
something that isn't calamitas
Didn't have a specific name in mind
stupid bitch. new name lol
She is now named calamita
Then use a nickname for her
cally
Clamitas
supreme witch
Clami
Clamatits
kilometres
clamawhat now
anyways
What other civilizations exist out there besides the ones on the continent we play on?
Draedon
Here's the ones we know.
Had a large permanent settlement:
Humans (plus dwarves and possibly other human-like races) in Azafure, as well as in underground houses elsewhere.
Ilmerians in ilmeris.
Unknown race in the jungle (dryads?)
Lihzards in the jungle temple
Exists but has no large permanent settlements on the continent:
Goblins
Someone else I'm forgetting?
Draedon is more like one guy
Would pirates count as the one you forgot?
So a nomadic civilisation
I wouldn't call them a civilization, I'd call them a fleet of ships with a hundred or so people on them
They're pirates. They do their own thing
what does the pillars have to do with lore in calamity?
last line of defense?
I assume so
there's a theory they're moon lord's army that he uses to help invade worlds
but nothing confirmed as of now
I imagine they're like cosmic elemental seals made by the dragons to keep the moon lord trapped
Then would meld blobs be moonlord flesh or something
Maybe
I don’t really see what else it could be
thrn why doesn't moon lord drop it
how far into the crusade do people think dog joined?
that's what i was thinking
we don't actually know though
i was just looking for what could be a reasonable guess at the date
for the draedon log i'm making
draelog
right now i'm thinking around 1860?
so about 79 years into the crusade
actually that seems very late
i might make it earlier
Can someone please briefly explain the calamity lore? I’m new to it but I think it’s pretty cool
@rocky cairn look at the pinned comments: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgyreCi8fGco8QiFhKHH8rIo_wHplhthdq08ro_SK9o/edit#heading=h.sjlpj85a4t6l
The Calamity Lore Document Hello, and welcome to the new Calamity Lore Document, also known simply as CAL. Here, I have collected all of the lore currently in the mod, and have curated it for easier consumption, including building a timeline based on the information given to us by the Lore i...
so an angry man is angry
Clear throat
Dragon protects terraria from Fovos(moon lord), many dragons died and can be reborn with Yharon by resting their auric soul in the dragon eeirie or smt.(idk) Zerathos The primordial light dragon (basically the unmatched power of the sun) auric soul got consumed by Xeroc (it's unknown what happened even the lore item doesn't know) becoming the first god, hearing this news people started committing genocide against dragon, Yharon the last dragon auric soul was offer to young Yharim to become the king of god, but he refused and he got sentenced to death by treason, when he fell to the underworld lava yharon hatch and save Yharim, and to pay it back Yharim start a crusade (genocide) against all god and it's follower and he fucked the terraria lmao
It's
alot
Explaining it briefly would be pretty hard

This is only the draconic era
1 ???
2dragons get auric soul
3 gods kill dragons (sort of)
4 gods are killed
5 god killer is old
6 us???
As ploo said Moon Lord attacked terraria a really long time ago. He was incredibly overwhelmingly powerful back them, and the dragons, which lived in terraria and acted as the protectors of the world, having powerful souls known as "Auric Souls" which granted them domain over certain aspects of the world, fought it. Unfortunately, due to ML's immense power, alot of them died and the only managed to seal ML, not even fully kill it. At some point, Xeroc, a human that was in service of the dragons as a monk, absorbed the soul of the strongest of the dragons (Zeratros) by using an specific ritual, making it so Xeroc ascended to godhood and became the first god. Whilst we don't know the exact context of this situation, it seems highly likely, based on the information we do have, that Zeratros willingly let xeroc consume his auric soul, likely to prevent another tragedy such as this one from happening
With Xeroc performing the ritual, it wouldn't be long before words about it spread, and more people would want to ascend into godhood for their own reasons. This was the catalyst for Dragons slowly going extinct at the hand of mortals who absorbed their souls to ascend - Do note, however, that not all Dragons were good guys. There is atleast one more or less confirmed case of a Dragon that was very much malicious and kind of deserved to be killed.
At some point, Yharim, the mod's main villain, was chosen by a specific group of tyrannical gods (Note, not "by the gods", but "by a specific group of gods") to be their god-king, as he was destined to consume the soul of the last auric dragon, Yharon. However, he rejected their offer, and thus was cast down into lava for it. However, Yharon would then save him, and they would quickly bond. It wouldn't take long for Yharim's hatred towards the tyrannical gods which cast him down and Yharon's propaganda regarding gods being absolutely evil and dragons being absolute good would lead to the two of them to not only become basically best friends but also start a nearly 100 year long genocidal crusadea against every single god aswell as their followers if necessary
@rocky cairn
This is basically the
"backstory" of calamity lore
There's alot more stuff
But that's the like
main background of it
Caramited rore
hey omni
Thank you my grammar suck
They're crossover content so they're not canon ye
Yo tysm sorry for making u type so much
an emissary
Fairy but big
so
she's a bitch
ok got it
does the hallow have lore tho
or is it the same as vanilla
ye the hallow has lore
none of the cal lore is the same as vanilla btw
hallow in calamity was created much in the same way as the evil biomes (leftover godly essence that was left unchecked for too long)
but whilst
evil biomes were made out of
well
evil gods
hallow was made out of benevolent gods
i always saw the spreading biomes as extremist political parties
What
its my way of explaining the evil biomes to a new player
you have extreme light and extreme dark and they keep spreading, and extreme light want everything they dont see as pure and like them gone
even if it looks appealing
That's in vanilla
yeah what i said wasnt related to your message
but why or how to the biomes spread in calamity tho
god essence just does that
The gods urge to spread their way
Yeah
In my opinion, EoL is the weakest link in the new lore chain
flesh devours and sickness spreads
personally we think its kind of dumb that yharim is like wa wah shes a COWARDLY COWARD who USURPS primordia llight !!!! like what are you talking about bitch shes just a girl who can use the Sun to kill things what ar you on
obviously yharim isnt a good person or telling things straight but like, our problem is that he has no reason to care about this? because the only reason he gives just isn't true?
like unless it is specifically xeroc's existence that allows her to use primordial light and she couldnt when Zeratros was alive it's just girlmagic he wouldn't care about that
your first mistake was expecting yharim to be a reasonable individual
if i had to guess
he sees her "stealing" zeratros primordial lighyt and is like
THIEF THIEF GIOVE IT BACK THIEF
surely yharim isn't mad at fire imps for stealing the flame dragon's power
we need to cook some eol lore
like it just feels very out of nowhere
Well i think primordial light is alot more specific than just fire magic
because he gives 0 shit about any other possible instance of the same thing
One is very clearly directly tied with zeratros and etc and very few beings can use it
the other is just
fire magic lol
its a super broad thing that i doubt is related to any specific character or entity
Also being incoherent isn't a very good reason for inconsistent or illogical character writing grrrrr
but it's not inconsistent
or illogical
if anything it's in line with his character lol
this is the Joker Harley Queen pitfall, do not go into the joker harley queen pitfall

Except that the dragon of Flame is a real guy we know existed
but i do not think the dragon of flame is the source of every instance of fire magic
:p
Why is he not mad everything with a flame is stealing from the flame dragon guy
Well Zeratros also isn't the primordial light source
That's the sun
Who we assume existed before him
Yeah but primordial light is something much more specific that much fewer characters can use
and knowing yharim
i'd fully believe if he thought it was Just Zeratro's Thing
Yharim is a dumbass
your first mistake was expecting him to know everything we do
His entire character is that he's omega biased and ignorant
You can have no reason to care about someone but still despise their actions on a moral basis
A lot of the stuff he tells you he knows he's lying
He's ignorant and biased, of course he's gonna see someone using primordial light as STEALING from the DRAGON OF PRIMORDIAL LIGHT the ALMIGHTY ZERATROS
She's usurping the power of others for selfish profit
Reminds you of anyone? :p
im gonna absorb Yharim soul 
jamming out while bawling his eyes out
Moonlord explodes into a skeleton when you kill them, don’t think the bones are made of skin
Considering it’s said the empress is “sickeningly obedient” I have a feeling they may be one of the few if only being with a positive relation to xeroc
or yharim is just lying again zzz nothing is real
you know something funny the way the word God esp with deus is used implies that the concept of divinity existed before xerocs ascension so the true question is: why does calamity not have mythology grrrr
Any sufficiently powerful being could get called a god or divine being by most people
So dragons were probably seen as gods until the ascension ritual popped up
So the myths are probably about the dragons
Dragons most def were worshiped
Yeah
AWESOME
Calamity lore has fallen right back into the trap card: Slime GOD and Providence DID NOT need to have a clear defined reason outside of vague power for why they were called gods
Divinity in the sense of calamity seems to go hand in hand with auric souls
we WIN this ethereal fight we just made up
Well with current gods they have absorbed a auric soul, they also get power from worship so I’m sure current gods hold the title more then any previously worshiped beings
It’s safe to assume that when another being absorbs an auric soul, it creates something greater than the sum of its parts
Maybe that’s why?
Yeah
100% chance the rest also called themselves gods solelyb ecause xeroc did
I mean, there isn’t much of another reason for that
Yeah that’s how names and titles are made
They were reborn under similar circumstances as xeroc
So ofc they’d define themselves the same way
what were saying is that we dont think it originated on any other connotations
It’s like Greek gods
the dragons were worshipped but they weren't like Divine, not in the sense the Gods tried to be anyway
although wed argue the Gods are barely divine in any way but thats a complaint of design and thematics that doesnt have much to do with this argrgr (When reality exists in everexpanding complexity and nothing is isolated)
Divinity in calamity just follows a different set of rules in comparison to our modern interpretation of it
sorry but thats a very sadcat thing to say
thats not a great excuse to explain why the things we're calling Gods do not feel Divine
who says it dosen't
Zeus doesn’t feel too divine compared to a modern Christian god

The dragon aerie can be thought of in the same way as mt Olympus
this is being adressed anyways did you know a goal of the sg resprite was to make it feel more Godly
The dragons stayed up there, above mortals
the fact deus was ''worshipped as a god" alone if anything indicates that there is some sort of mythology or collection of religious beliefs in-universe
not really
Then about why they call slime god “god”
not everything is gonna be able to be explained lol
I’d rather learn more about their everything
another awesome win for the Why slime god is a god doesnt matter dont center the entire lore around that explanation haha hahahahahahah
I feel like we have to think about how old each civilization is in calamity
i could be sitting here all day talking about how i'd love if we got a extensive look at the ecology of cannonball jellyfish
but we don't
and that's not a bad thing
nothing is much older than 2000 years old considering the aerie
which is also So Weird
So we have to keep that in mind when discussing why they’d call something divine
Azafure is the oldest city, and is the start of the Callander
What is this conversation even about
I don’t even know
Same
this is very different from making the world feel more real by not making the entirety of it centered around like 3 concepts and 2 people
it isn't though?
Sunken sea overhaul will add tons of world building
like yes alot of things indirectly connect to the main plot but like. that's normal
Whenever they add the sky city will too
I don’t doubt that Azafure will get more eventually
most stories will have things somehow connecting indirectly to the main plot in some way or another lol
There’s a reason it’s the main plot
yeah
So ofcourse it will be important to the world
it's not even connectivity that works that well because even if sg's resprite vaguely does make it more of a god you'd still have no clue it's related to anything without the text
Slime halo
it doesn't have one that we know of
It doesn’t need a halo
it's called the slime god does it get any more clear that its a god than that
It’s not a Christian interpretation of god
ok so this is not about the writing at all but like
a part of the lore being written disconnected from like, everything else
what part of the lore
is that the designs of the Gods are very random and disconnected
yes
Depends on the god
why is that a problem
We can assume that most “mortal” bodies needed to adapt to auric souls
a part of (the things that happen with) the lore*
And the gods are meant to represent their domain aswell
that is a problem because visual clues are actually very important?
that they are gods
that they are beings cut from the same flesh in some way or another
do we need those when they literally have god in their names
Well how are they able to show them as gods?
yeah
and like
yeah its good to have something like that actually
even if they have god in their names
narrative through visual and design is awesome
we do not think slime god needs to be the same shape or anything to providence or ravager
we just think they need something that connects them with eachother through the language of visual design
I like that most of the gods represent whatever domain they inherited from the dragons soul they absorbed
Yeah but how would they achieve making them look like a god?
Slime God looks like the personification of gluttony
and not like
"oh it makes it clear they're all gods" because that is ultimately redudant since they literally tell you "this thing is a god"
It makes More Sense, it allows people to understand better how they're related without reading the lore items
or that they're related at all in the first place!
okay so first of all
as i said
they literally tell you
this thing is a god
secondly
this if anything would be damaging, i think!
It’s not that hard to read the lore
if you didn't read anything you could assume they have nothing to do with eachother despite being gods
We shouldn’t have to cater to people who don’t wanna read
well
it's not that hard to read the boss' name
yeah
they don't
that's what i was gonna get at
none of the gods are directly connected to eachother
It's not hard to read but it'd be kind of fucking awesome if lore items weren't real
