#lore-discussion

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pliant ruin
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he didnt even seem to do anything in regards to the plague

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so i doubt that changed anything

distant dagger
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and more god killin

warm gull
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are clentaminators canon

pliant ruin
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good question

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id imagine probably?

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but also maybe not

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idk

distant dagger
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hmm

warm gull
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If only somebody would ping stipulatevenus

distant dagger
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prob a vacume gun that works like the wof

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if it is cannon

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mabye a tellaportar to the wof

pliant ruin
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wtf is my cat doing

distant dagger
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it just sucks any evil into a portal to wof

pliant ruin
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why are cats so weird

warm gull
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you can only acquire the clentaminator in hardmode when the wof is already canonincally dead

pliant ruin
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even i am weird and im a cat

distant dagger
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huh

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then it might be emanating wofs behavior

mighty zenith
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my cats are genuinely stupid

pliant ruin
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yeah cats are really dumb

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love em

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me included

warm gull
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My cat was smart actually

pliant ruin
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i'm stupid

distant dagger
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no curreis

pliant ruin
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anyways what were we talking about before my cat started being evil

warm gull
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she was mostly black and white but had a bit of orange tabby

mighty zenith
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one of my cats refuses to clean himself after doing the deed and the other does the deed in the bathtub

warm gull
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however she didn't let the orange part make her stupid

distant dagger
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my cat is strait up obeast

pliant ruin
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clentaminators or something

pliant ruin
warm gull
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My friend had a cat that weighed 12 pounds

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her name was Chicken

pliant ruin
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don't let your cat turn into a reddit chonker wholesome 100 keanu chungus

distant dagger
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3x the size of a normal aldult cat

warm gull
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she had a tiny fucking head

distant dagger
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fat ass cat dude

warm gull
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she also got gregnant once

pliant ruin
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gr

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gregnant

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gregnant

warm gull
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gragnant

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pregante even

distant dagger
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as big as a 5 year o;d just cus of how my cat is

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/old

distant dagger
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old

pliant ruin
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neuron activation

mighty zenith
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she's so stupid but i still lovb her

warm gull
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My cat never wanted to be in my room because I have 3 dogs who sleep in my room

distant dagger
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i kid u not my cat lays still eating 90% of the day

warm gull
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She lived on the window sill and outside

pliant ruin
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just like

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dont do that

distant dagger
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genuely obeast cat

warm gull
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Obese

pliant ruin
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take ur cat for walks or something

distant dagger
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yea but he needs to eat

pliant ruin
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well yeah but clearly hes eating too much

distant dagger
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he has a massive appiteite

pliant ruin
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feed him less

warm gull
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I fed my cat by just refilling the bowl when it got empty

pliant ruin
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i only feed my cat twice per day

worldly nacelle
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Just finished the mod for the first time, who's the "he" calamitas refers to?

pliant ruin
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yharim

warm gull
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She made it a good 10 years before being brutally murdered in the streets by heart failure

pliant ruin
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main villain of the mod

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will- hold on cockroach

distant dagger
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he must eat evin tho he arl ate 3 cans or he will die

pliant ruin
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gotta kill it

worldly nacelle
pliant ruin
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in fact you are possibly killing him currently by giving him too much food

pliant ruin
distant dagger
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no he legit starts fucking dying

warm gull
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draedon is evil but not really an active threat nor is he easily killable

pliant ruin
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a cat will not die because you gave them 3 meals instead of 4

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unless they have some fucked up health complication which in that case you should probably take them to a vet

distant dagger
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bro is completeley limp and weak if u dont feed him 5 times a day

pliant ruin
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more like

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immoral

warm gull
pliant ruin
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you are genuinely gonna kill your cat if you continue

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stop

distant dagger
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its prob a health condition

pliant ruin
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feed him less

worldly nacelle
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The extent of the lore I know is draedon- made big robots to fight God
DoG- Hired(?) By draedons goon to fight God
Calamitas- Maybe a god?

pliant ruin
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take him for walks

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make him exercise

pliant ruin
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DoG was hired by yharim to fight god

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so that one you got mostly right

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Draedon was also hired by yharim

warm gull
# pliant ruin immoral

I think that evil doesn't require you to be actively malicious, just not concerned with overall common well-being and willing to do bad things to get what you want, both of which draedon is completely fine with

pliant ruin
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but in this case to supply his army with gear to fight said gods

distant dagger
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i kid u not if i do he starst meowing contantly hissing at walls and goes insane

warm gull
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Sounds like a

pliant ruin
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Like

warm gull
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spoiled cat

pliant ruin
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the gun shot someone and someone died

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but the gun itself isnt evil

calm patio
pliant ruin
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becasue it dosen't have the capacity to have morals

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like draedons actions, if put on a human, would definitely make said human evil imo

worldly nacelle
pliant ruin
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There is no single ''god"

calm patio
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gods are subjective in calamity

warm gull
worldly nacelle
warm gull
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draedon does fucked up shit without other people telling him to

pliant ruin
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There is no single dude

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they want to kill gods

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plural

distant dagger
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but somone can be a god withot an auric soul

pliant ruin
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no

calm patio
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no

pliant ruin
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they can't

worldly nacelle
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So who are the gods?

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Like are there any in the game?

calm patio
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yes

distant dagger
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u just gota be hella storng and do godly things

pliant ruin
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Gods are people who have absorbed the auric soul of a dragon and ascended into a powerful being. By the point the game takes place in almost all of them have been killed by Yharim in his genocidal crusade

warm gull
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Gods are a specific type of organism that is a mortal creature that has consumed an auric soul

pliant ruin
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The only ones you actually find are:

distant dagger
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like creation and mass destrution

calm patio
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xeroc(boss rush) providence, ravager(in a way) and silva(you dont see her or interact with her. but shes thrown in the abyss by yharim)

warm gull
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No

distant dagger
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thats not the only way tho

pliant ruin
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-Providence
-Slime God
-Ravager (Technically.)

calm patio
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also slime god

pliant ruin
warm gull
pliant ruin
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In calamity god has a very strict definition

distant dagger
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also why ravager

pliant ruin
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Ravager is a corpse of a god brought back to life

distant dagger
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never saw that he was a god

pliant ruin
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So technically it's a god

distant dagger
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ohh

pliant ruin
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just a horribly butchered barely alive one

warm gull
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there are many beings far stronger than gods, but they aren't gods because they don't fall into the definition of what it means to be a god in cal

pliant ruin
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If you want to get a overall look for the lore there's a doc in pins

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Do keep in mind

worldly nacelle
pliant ruin
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the mod, and by extension, the lore

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is pretty unfinished

pliant ruin
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as we said

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gods are beings who have consumed auric souls

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again

calm patio
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^

worldly nacelle
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Ah

pliant ruin
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''god" has a strict definition in calamity lore

worldly nacelle
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Mb

calm patio
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which draedon and yharim and calamitas did not

distant dagger
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why tho

worldly nacelle
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So is calamitas just some random girl?

pliant ruin
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Yharim in particular has a vehement hatred for gods and his main goal is to genocide all of them

calm patio
distant dagger
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why would it be spicicfly auric souls

warm gull
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like calamitas is a being who is very strong and has done arguably godly shit, but she is not a god

calm patio
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a childsolider who served yharim

calm patio
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you have to know the ritual to accend to as a god

warm gull
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specifically

pliant ruin
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Calamitas is a really powerful girl who was a child soldier in Yharim's army and after she realized how terrible her actions were she ran away and is now really depressed

calm patio
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of absorbing a auric soul

distant dagger
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and why do auric souls exist

pliant ruin
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That's like

distant dagger
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same fir dragins

pliant ruin
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asking ''why do the dragon balls exist" in dbz

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or

warm gull
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fire dragons

calm patio
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those dragons are the ones who has auric souls

pliant ruin
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"why does the triforce exist" in zelda

distant dagger
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like why does and auric soul turn man into god

calm patio
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it doesnt happen like

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that

pliant ruin
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its a plot element

eager bluff
calm patio
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you must spefically know the ritual to do so

pliant ruin
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it dosent need to be explained further tha

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''it exists because it does"

calm patio
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^

mighty zenith
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but its pretty vague still

worldly nacelle
distant dagger
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do u get dragons balls from killing dragons in dbz

pliant ruin
mighty zenith
warm gull
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auric souls were gifted to the dragons by the world soul apparently

pliant ruin
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they're not actually objective lore they're yharim yapping on your ears

warm gull
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yaps from on high dance in your ears

pliant ruin
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and by extension they're highly biased and more often than not contain Lies and Misinformation

worldly nacelle
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So is yharim also just some depressed dude now writing about stuff or is he still a genocidal maniac

pliant ruin
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still genocidal maniac

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he's a depressed genocidal maniac

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still genocidal maniac tho

distant dagger
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pov me

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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he's depressed because all of his strongest allies (minus yharon) have left him

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and that he couldn't finish the genocide

warm gull
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yeah basically

worldly nacelle
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So more of like a genocidal maniac trying to cling onto the genocide?

pliant ruin
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yes basically

mighty zenith
distant dagger
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man i cant belive yharon can sing

warm gull
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His goal that he became a horrible person to achieve is unachievable

pliant ruin
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he's gonna die of old age soon and he knows he won't be able to finish his genocidal crusade

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so he's trying to manipulate you into being his successor

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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He wants you to fight him in order to prove that you're worthy to do that and to try finally convincing you to do so

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armstrong mgr basically

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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my brainrot is really powerful.

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i'll stop.

warm gull
worldly nacelle
eager bluff
pliant ruin
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Draedon has left

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ye

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It's only yharon whos still by his side

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cuz theyre like best friends

worldly nacelle
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So he just watched for fun?

distant dagger
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no draedon got fired

mighty zenith
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well not anymore clueless

eager bluff
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more accurately yharim dipped but yeah

pliant ruin
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Dreadon is just using you as his lab rat

low bison
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The Exo mechs were built to fight Yharim if he ever came knocking

pliant ruin
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He dosen't have any ulterior goals he kind of just wants to fuck around and find out

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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Like his entire purpose is discovering things so

distant dagger
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wait wait WAIT

warm gull
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Draedon got yelled at by yharim and then yharim ignored him until he got bored and left

low bison
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He tried though

distant dagger
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DIDNT YHARIM REACH GODHOOD

mighty zenith
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no

worldly nacelle
pliant ruin
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no

eager bluff
warm gull
scenic olive
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The entire calamity community vs all of calamity bosses

pliant ruin
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well

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he benefitted from it

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but he dosen't actually care about yharim's goals

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he just got resources to do research with

worldly nacelle
eager bluff
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yharims attuned to yharon which is similar yet extremely distinct form godhood

pliant ruin
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that goes into it but as a whole

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his purpose is just research

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building giant robots is included in that but its not only that

low bison
pliant ruin
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just

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studying shit

distant dagger
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CUS IN THE BOSS RUSH HE SAIS you evin defeated my old that freind yharon i had wile i was mortal or smth like that

pliant ruin
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experimenting

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discovering

worldly nacelle
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And yharon is just the last of the dragons yeah?

pliant ruin
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not yharim

pliant ruin
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xeroc is the one talking in boss rush

distant dagger
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KEY WORD MORTAL

pliant ruin
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all the other dragons have died

pliant ruin
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because its xeroc

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who is a god

eager bluff
scenic olive
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is Xeroc pre ascension as strong as Yharim

distant dagger
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then why did he say my old freind YHARON

pliant ruin
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because xeroc was friends with yharon

mighty zenith
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because xeroc used to be friends with yharon

warm gull
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Yeah

pliant ruin
eager bluff
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because xeroc and yharon were friends

distant dagger
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was he

scenic olive
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because hes attune

worldly nacelle
pliant ruin
eager bluff
mighty zenith
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xeroc was a monk, who was close to the dragons

distant dagger
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NO THAT WAS LIKE THE DRAGON LORD OR SMTH

pliant ruin
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yharon hates gods just as much as yharim

worldly nacelle
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So did the gods kill the dragons or smthn?

pliant ruin
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yes but also it wasn't like

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a organized thing

warm gull
worldly nacelle
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Collateral damage?

pliant ruin
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different people just started killing dragons for their own goals independently

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yeah

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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basically

distant dagger
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xeroc is yharim confermed

eager bluff
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absolutely not

pliant ruin
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yharim basically believes like

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all gods are evil

distant dagger
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xeroc isnt the guy in the boss rush

pliant ruin
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when in reality

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some gods are evil

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some are good

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some are like

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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neutral

distant dagger
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yhraim is

calm patio
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this guy is trolling

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1000%

scenic olive
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The God of Cheese is real

pliant ruin
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im cheease

mighty zenith
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lets kill him

pliant ruin
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:3

worldly nacelle
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Gonna take a wild guess and say the devourer of God's doesn't like God's all too much either

eager bluff
distant dagger
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then why does he say yharon is his old freind

scenic olive
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From the Auric Soul of Dairy

mighty zenith
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they're tasty

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:3

pliant ruin
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Yeah lol

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he LOVES (eating) them

worldly nacelle
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So he just got a little hungy

pliant ruin
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He dosen't have any sort of goals against gods explicitly

worldly nacelle
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And eated them all

pliant ruin
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He just helps yharim because

calm patio
pliant ruin
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much like draedon

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it benefits him

eager bluff
warm gull
distant dagger
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THEN WHY DOES QUOTE ON QUOTE XEROC SAY THAT YHARON WAS HIS OLD FREIND

pliant ruin
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because he was his friend

eager bluff
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what about this do you not understand

distant dagger
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that was like a drogn lord not yharon

worldly nacelle
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So basically all of yharims allies except for yharon couldn't care less about yharims goals, they just get resources from him to go fuck around

pliant ruin
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this is gonna sound crazy

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but

distant dagger
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dragin

pliant ruin
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people can have more than one friend

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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But they all left him for some reason

mortal osprey
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Zeratos or how ever you spell was dragon king

warm gull
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did you know that goldfish have the mental capacity to understand pattern recognition

distant dagger
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but how w0uld we know that xeroc is yharons freind

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HOW

pliant ruin
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Because he said it

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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in boss rush

distant dagger
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when

scenic olive
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Dragon of Light

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Wait

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Does that imply

distant dagger
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how do we know thats xeroc huh???

pliant ruin
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because it is

scenic olive
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There is a Dragon of Dark

calm patio
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by the lore items

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duh

pliant ruin
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devs have said it and its obviously xeroc

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like

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this isnt up to debate

low bison
eager bluff
pliant ruin
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its literally confirmed to be xeroc

warm gull
distant dagger
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its not an eyeball its the sigel

mortal osprey
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That's his eye

eager bluff
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no its a sigil

scenic olive
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Zeratros

low bison
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It looks like an eyeball I’m calling it an eyeball

worldly nacelle
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Is moon lord a god in calamity lore or is he also just some dude?

scenic olive
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what does that name even mean

calm patio
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nor cthulhu

distant dagger
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no its the pirmeordeil light siggel

calm patio
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yessssssss and its xeroc

pliant ruin
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Draedon - Kicked out, didn't really care about yharim's goals
DoG - Left, didn't really care about yharim's goals
Calamitas - Left, initially cared about yharim's goals but that was while she was a child who didn't understand that what she was doing was evil, now she hates him
Permafrost - Left, initially cared about yharim's goals but that was before he understood how evil yharim was, left and now also probably hates him
Yharon - He stayed : D

warm gull
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Moon lord is a cosmic aberration from beyond the stars

pliant ruin
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^

distant dagger
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in non modded terraria he is

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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Moon lord is

warm gull
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Quite literally

pliant ruin
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really important to the lore

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he kind of like

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kickstarted the entire lore actually

eager bluff
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yeah

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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Archmage npc

mighty zenith
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the archmage

eager bluff
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the archmage

mighty zenith
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you free him from cryogen

pliant ruin
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He was yharim's diplomat/counselor who left him after realizing how evil he was

worldly nacelle
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So he's also just some random dude

distant dagger
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no isnt moon lord a god

pliant ruin
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He's also cal's adoptive dad

warm gull
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the rot consumes

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
mighty zenith
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he's an extremely talented mage

pliant ruin
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^

worldly nacelle
mighty zenith
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calamitas' tutor

warm gull
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ice wizard

mighty zenith
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and step father

distant dagger
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doesnt it state that moon lord is a god

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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no

worldly nacelle
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Sim petrikov

pliant ruin
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He's like simon petrikov if he wasnt crazy

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like

worldly nacelle
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Post ice King simon

warm gull
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I feel like calling permafrost cal's step/adoptive father is a tad overselling it

pliant ruin
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just the ''good father'' and "ice magic" part without the "going crazy because of a magic crown" part

open ruin
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If all the NPCs in the mod fought who'd win? Excluding brimstone witch from this

scenic olive
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Does Draedon immune to getting petrified by medusa

scenic olive
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?

pliant ruin
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It's being canonized probably

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I win!

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I'm the winner

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victory

warm gull
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where does it say this

mighty zenith
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she'll refer to him as dad in future npc quotes

pliant ruin
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Cei posted some upcoming calamitas dialogue

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ye

mighty zenith
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cei leaked one

pliant ruin
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she calls him dad

eager bluff
scenic olive
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dada

mighty zenith
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oh was it 2?

pliant ruin
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ye

mighty zenith
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i thought one wasnt here

distant dagger
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so th can empres use pirme light

pliant ruin
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it will be peak

scenic olive
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Prime Light

pliant ruin
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the permadad

scenic olive
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Nah

pliant ruin
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its real

eager bluff
pliant ruin
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permadad?

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dadfrost?

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whatever

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go my scarab

low bison
scenic olive
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Daddy chill

warm gull
mighty zenith
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is it really weird

warm gull
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yes

pliant ruin
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I don't see how it's weird tbh

mighty zenith
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he was basically a father figure to her since she was a child

distant dagger
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why can empres use primeordeil light

mighty zenith
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of course she'd get attached

pliant ruin
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Like given she was taken in by him when she was like idk 12 i think its natural for her to attach to him as a father figure

scenic olive
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Her domain is the Primordial Light

pliant ruin
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If she had been tutored by him when she was like older then ye

warm gull
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She knew that guy for like 2 years and was slaughtering people for that entire time

eager bluff
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her family is dead perma is her adoptive father

warm gull
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I think it's weird

scenic olive
pliant ruin
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2 years?

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is that like

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a confirmed amount of time

warm gull
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No it's just the estimate that we've been using

eager bluff
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2 years is definitely inaccurate

scenic olive
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Tyrian Lore

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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given cal was like

distant dagger
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dont brimston elem and camamitas use the same power

worldly nacelle
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So are the astrum bosses just aliens not associated with the gods or yharim?

warm gull
warm gull
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It isn't a number that came from me

distant dagger
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yea

mighty zenith
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astrum aureus is arobot

scenic olive
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wouldnt it make sense that Tyrian and Otonilou essence resulted in Aerialite? Or no

pliant ruin
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i picture it as like

warm gull
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I used to think that she was in yharim's army for like 10 years

pliant ruin
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4-5 years

worldly nacelle
eager bluff
distant dagger
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do brimstone elam and calamitas use the same type of power

eager bluff
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brimstone fire magic

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yes

open ruin
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Don't think so

mighty zenith
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the astral infection can take over the minds and bodies of non-sentient things

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including machines

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and animals, like deus

eager bluff
scenic olive
open ruin
mighty zenith
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potentially yea

eager bluff
open ruin
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That's what I'm wondering

distant dagger
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oh so calamitas just does it way better then brimstone elan

pliant ruin
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astral exos

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the horror

scenic olive
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Awesome

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half Astral arm

warm gull
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but anyways yeah idk just the idea of perma being cal's adoptive father is weird to me idk why

I sort of pictured him as more of a mentor/pseudo father figure but not a straight up on the nose adoptive parent

low bison
eager bluff
open ruin
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I think draedons exotech should be resistant to astral infection seeing what happened with aureus he would have done something to prevent it

eager bluff
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id say so long as the arm is disconnected

distant dagger
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yea prob

worldly nacelle
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Could it take over nanomachines in a person

scenic olive
open ruin
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Also not canonical but what's the astral blight exactly?

scenic olive
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idk about exo

worldly nacelle
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Astrum armstrong

distant dagger
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prob not

warm gull
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could one of draedon's bodies like the one that spectates your exo fight be infected?

open ruin
eager bluff
eager bluff
scenic olive
worldly nacelle
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Isn't it basically just space corruption?

mighty zenith
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if you mean corruption as in, the evil biome

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then no

scenic olive
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miracle uses auric bar

open ruin
warm gull
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lore chat is zooming rn

I should sleep

worldly nacelle
distant dagger
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yea but after areus he knows how to counter astral infection so exotech would prob be fine

mighty zenith
#

does he though?

eager bluff
mighty zenith
#

he knows the astral can take over machinery

distant dagger
#

prob

mighty zenith
#

but its never stated he figured out a solution to it

distant dagger
#

so he can make a counter

worldly nacelle
#

What even is draedon?

#

Like is he a robot?

open ruin
#

I'd say he would have done something with exotech to make it immune to astral infection

mighty zenith
#

a robot

distant dagger
#

prob cus its not relavont

open ruin
#

I don't think draedon would want to lose his Magnum Opus to some cosmic bacteria

eager bluff
worldly nacelle
sinful adder
worldly nacelle
#

Or is that just not a thing

distant dagger
#

some random guy

eager bluff
sinful adder
#

I bet Draedon could be infected by the astral infection and it would pose a substantial threat

mighty zenith
#

which is almost definitely his creator

sinful adder
#

And yeah. A scientist hundreds of years ago built him

eager bluff
open ruin
#

I don't think draedon would make the mistake of having exos taken over by the astral

worldly nacelle
mighty zenith
#

he could also just

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make sure they avoid the astral

sinful adder
worldly nacelle
#

Bc it says the infection gets anything that can't grasp the reality of the universe

sinful adder
#

We don't know what the line between "conscious" and "automatic" is

worldly nacelle
#

Draedon seems pretty smart

sinful adder
#

He is

open ruin
#

Also can XB∞ Hekate be canon? Like could draedon just merge the three together

eager bluff
distant dagger
#

prettey??
more like supermind

eager bluff
#

yeah its decided on a case by case basis and in this case it is sapience

sinful adder
#

His components are fundamentally not different from any other machine that could exist

distant dagger
#

no they are if he has full senteance

sinful adder
#

Though the same is true of organic life which is sometimes and sometimes not sapient

sinful adder
#

There's more of them, but it's not magically different

eager bluff
distant dagger
#

he think bye himself purficly fine

sinful adder
#

It certainly appears that way

distant dagger
#

hes not an ai chatbot hes a renforcet human

eager bluff
#

immunity to the astral isnt a simple sum of your parts situation

sinful adder
distant dagger
#

it is

distant dagger
#

no u need to counter it

#

kinda like a human vacein

eager bluff
#

if you're immune you're immune

pliant ruin
#

me eating astral dirt

distant dagger
#

yea

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exactly waht im saying

pliant ruin
#

saying youre eating astral dirt?

distant dagger
#

and draedon can do that to perfection

#

no

sinful adder
pliant ruin
#

draedon can perfectly eat astral dirt?

distant dagger
#

prob if he has somthing built in to protect him from it withc he prob does

#

witch

#

anyway ima go

sinful adder
#

That is not how this works

distant dagger
#

ima watch yt

sinful adder
#

Also your spelling is awful

distant dagger
#

yea im 10

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so that awnsers that

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

erm

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what the scallop

sinful adder
#

You will soon be banned from discord

worldly nacelle
#

If cal sees permafrost as a father why did she put him in cryogen

hoary berry
mighty zenith
open ruin
#

Guys could XB Hekate be canon? Like can draedon just screw the mechs together

warm gull
mighty zenith
#

this way she could fake his death

worldly nacelle
warm gull
#

because he left

pliant ruin
#

just get like

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really strong glue

mighty zenith
#

Permafrost left him and Yharim got scared he'd become a threat

worldly nacelle
#

So why didn't he kill draedon

pliant ruin
#

cuz he cant probably

mighty zenith
#

because you realistically cant kill draedon

pliant ruin
#

killing draedon is

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yeah

#

its basically impossible

worldly nacelle
#

Y

mighty zenith
#

you think he doesnt have thousands upon thousands of backups for himself

pliant ruin
#

He's got like

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yeah

pliant ruin
#

You can kill as many of his bodies as you can there's gonna be more

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And in the time you kill those he can just make more copies

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and they're like

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all over the place

worldly nacelle
#

Ah

open ruin
#

I think if draedon was to just glue the mechs together it'll be at a disadvantage unless hekate ends up being similar to how it is ingame

sinful adder
#

His consciousness is distributed across thousands of computers across the world

sinful adder
#

Probably

pliant ruin
#

LITERALLY THIS

sinful adder
#

Hmm. Actually...

#

Theory

worldly nacelle
#

So calamity villains are:
Teenage girl
Geriatric lunatic
Rick
Bird
The very hungry caterpillar

pliant ruin
#

i wouldnt call cal a villain tbh

#

also whos rick

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oh wait

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nvm

#

yeah

sinful adder
#

This isn't Draedon:

worldly nacelle
#

Draedon

pliant ruin
#

draedon is more of an antagonist than a villain i feel

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and cal is just straight up not a villain

#

like draedon does become helpful to you after the exos fight

open ruin
#

Draedon just wants to do research

worldly nacelle
#

I guess I should've put antagonist

pliant ruin
#

even if he dosen't actually care about you or anyone else's goals

#

cal on the other hand is just like

open ruin
#

Cal is manipulated

pliant ruin
#

she only fights you because she more or less had a panic attack

sinful adder
#

These are:

pliant ruin
#

talked abt it with cei earlier

open ruin
pliant ruin
#

but we both agreed that

#

in a situation where

#

cal actually managed to kill the terrarian

buoyant inlet
#

Lame opinion

pliant ruin
#

after some minutes she would realize what she just had done and would absolutely fucking lose it

buoyant inlet
#

Yharim is old ass with dad's belly and strongman build

worldly nacelle
#

So the calamity antagonists are:
Bird
Geriatric groomer
Rick
The very hungry caterpillar
Former antagonist groomed teenage girl

pliant ruin
#

yharim is not a femboy

#

he is over 100

#

he is far past his twinkdeath stage

#

he's like

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

twinkrotting

open ruin
pliant ruin
#

(i dont care

buoyant inlet
#

Yharim never was a twink

#

But I think his younger pre lava self was very handsome

#

Kinda like Anakin Skywalker but older

pliant ruin
#

i like to picture pre-lava yharim not as a twink but as very metrosexual

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like

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handsome buff guy with long hair type beat

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kind of like eliott from stardew valley

buoyant inlet
#

Yeah something like that

worldly nacelle
#

Also why exactly does yharim hate gods

sinful adder
sinful adder
#

(after he turned against the gods in his city)

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(and was thrown into lava for it)

worldly nacelle
#

Completely off topic but is there like a lore reason why calamitas clone is still based on the old sprite

mighty zenith
#

not really

#

calclone is supposed to be a clone inside a machine, which is why she's not a full on humanoid like scal in the fight

#

but the current sprite is 100% gonna be replaced

worldly nacelle
#

Is there a lore reason as to why old cal looked like that?

#

Or did they just change it for no particular reason

mighty zenith
#

she was cursed by yharim or some shit

calm patio
#

im pretty sure the curse was like

#

idk tbh

#

like forcing calamitas to come back or something

#

from that one video on yt of old lore cal

pliant ruin
#

i think its just that calamitas used to be a twins recolor when the mod was really old before lore was even a thing and it was just not changed yet

worldly nacelle
#

I think it's rly funny that the sulphuric sea is basically just draedon BP oil spill

pliant ruin
#

i love dumping nuclear waste into the ocean

worldly nacelle
#

Dump power cells in the sea to help the jellyfish recharge

#

So if to become a god you have to get an auric soul, and auric souls come from dragons, did slimes 2v2 dragons?

calm patio
#

which slimes

#

youre talking about slime god and what else

worldly nacelle
#

Is slime god not 2?

sinful adder
#

No. Slime god is the little ball guy

worldly nacelle
#

Ah

sinful adder
#

He used to be a human and transformed into that thing upon becoming a god

#

He made paladin slimes to defend him

worldly nacelle
#

I like my idea of a random slime soloing a dragon better

scenic olive
warm gull
#

no fucking way he's back

calm patio
warm gull
#

damn,,,

real silo
#

It has been burned into my retinas

scenic olive
#

Yharim of the Aerie

open ruin
#

Gallus Yharus

gritty dawn
#

updated starlight river calamity lore

#

VITRIC DESERT

  1. was a part of illmeris
  2. heavily industrial in the production of glass made from crystals with special properties
  3. had a temple tended to by an ancient buglike species coexisting with the illmerans
  4. powerful artifacts were made here ( when using starsight on the anvil in the forge )
  5. how did it survive calamitas? i mean it still has to be considered scorched by draedon for the lore to make sense, but the temple survived
#

im pretty sure there is nothing else ingame about the lore there

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these are just the points that i thought would be relevant to some extent

split mortar
gritty dawn
#

which is apparently " an ancient race of glassblowers "

#

so im thinking of using that instead of the " ancient buglike species ", but still unsure

frozen zodiac
#

bug people... NuggetLove

buoyant inlet
#

That was hollow

pliant ruin
split mortar
gritty dawn
#

i dont know how to incorporate how the place is not fully reduced to what the state the rest of the desert is in

#

like either special properties of the crystal made it somehow survive longer

#

or place was purposefully left somewhat functional

hoary berry
# gritty dawn or place was purposefully left somewhat functional

given that the glassblowers are "an ancient race" according to your prior message, it could be that they used to be allied with the dragons, but as the dragons were hunted to near-extinction the glassblowers hid away near a friendly kingdom, that being ilmeris. yharim wanted calamitas to leave the place mostly intact due to a mixture of respect for their former alliance with the dragons (who the glassblowers had no part in killing) and potentially to take advantage of their unique craftsmanship in the future

gritty dawn
hoary berry
gritty dawn
#

their religious guardian was shattered and there are ruins everywhere

gritty dawn
#

dont know how that connects

#

i mean a lot of the creatures in the sunken sea are canonically also part crystal/prism

#

so its not a stretch so say that the glassblowers were native

hoary berry
#

then you could scrab the whole "alliance with the dragons" idea and just say that yharim wanted the last person who knows of the glassweavers' ancient knowledge to live, to potentially extract that information in the future

gritty dawn
hoary berry
#

and that ilmeris was founded after them

gritty dawn
#

i think that the glassblowers would have just joined in when illmeris was made

#

like they lived secluded making glass constructs just like glassweaver and living around forges or something

hoary berry
gritty dawn
#

anyways

#

should i mention the powerful artifacts detail

#

i mean

#

" known for the production of powerful artifacts, a great asset to illmeris "

#

something like that

hoary berry
#

that could also be part of the justification for its survival, either because some ancient, grand artifact protected it from calamitas' boiling of the sea or because yharim didn't want the artifacts to be damaged

gritty dawn
#

so like

#

i mean the temple is in a state of disrepair

gritty dawn
#

i mean id probably say something along the lines of the crystal having special properties

#

rather than yharim ordered it

#

since the place is pretty much still a ruin, even the temple

hoary berry
#

so, in a way, my first idea

#

and yeah idk how realistic it would be for yharim to want the artifacts

#

since i don't even remember what they are

gritty dawn
#

so

#

it would be written something like

#

" the crystals were a large contribution to this places surival, even in such a pitiful state "

#

and for the special crystals part it would be something like

#

" a part of illmeris especially rich with crystals, occupied by a race of ancient glassblowers "

#

" formed long before illmeris even existed, the glassblowers lived in their crystal rich cities for centuries "

#

" they joined illmeris peacefully not long after Otonilou and Tyrian came into power, and were a great asset to the kingdoms growth "

pliant ruin
#

arent those guys like bugs

#

how would they live in illmeris LOL

#

like

#

its all underwater

#

n theyre bugs

#

maybe just make it so they lived near illmeris

gritty dawn
gritty dawn
#

" after the incineration of illmeris, most of their race either died out or left, leaving their forges abandoned and their cities in ruins "

#

" a former part of Illmeris especially rich with crystal, occupied by a race of ancient glassblowers "

#

" formed long before Illmeris, the glassblowers lived in their cities for centuries, their mastery over crystal unmatched "

#

" they joined Illmeris peacefully not long after Otonilou and Tyrian came into power, becoming a cornerstone to the kingdoms growth "

#

" yet, after the incineration of Illmeris, most of their race either perished or fled, leaving their cities abandoned and in ruins "

#

" the crystals must have been a large contribution to this places preservation, even if in such a pitiful and collapsing state "

#

i think that works good well enough?

#

please give feedback

ionic harness
#

This is badass

gritty dawn
#

im kind of

#

mixed on it

#

especially the wording and the last part

#

anyways i also did a little bit of work on the auroracle lore

#

i need help on the third part

visual kiln
#

lore discussion

#

@cunning rover pings u >:3

gritty dawn
#

any feedback is welcome

fading sun
#

why are you discussing starlight river lore

gritty dawn
#

also making it fit into calamity lore

fading sun
fading sun
cloud ibex
#

does there need to be a reason

gritty dawn
# fading sun whar

withertaco made a mod that adds " compatibility " between the two mods,

#

and there are lore items

fading sun
#

oh hell naw

gritty dawn
#

but theyre just copy and paste of the starlight river bestiary

#

so im trying to come up with something more unique i guess

gritty dawn
gritty dawn
cloud ibex
#

wrong answer

#

the correct one is "no"

gritty dawn
#

nuh uh

#

anyways no idea what i would put for the third bit

#

" they would offer tributes as a way to gain ... " - could be better understanding of magic, since the whole permafrost connection

#

so like

#

i mean it channels aurora light

#

and i want this whole " ancestor of magic " type of vibe

#

like the archmage learned something either from it or from the ruins of the squiddites

#

but the whole " better understanding of magic " just seems a little too on the nose

visual bane
#

what the fuck

gritty dawn
#

anyways any ideas for the lore item

wheat walrus
#

😭

gritty dawn
pliant ruin
gritty dawn
#

of the vitric desert lore item

gritty dawn
#

" -a large sandy cavern filled with huge teal glass crystals "

stray cargo
#

is there like a big document somewhere i can read through to understand the lore better?

gritty dawn
#

yeah im pretty sure there is

#

either on the wiki, youtube or was posted somewhere in the discord server

spare pier
#

It's pinned here

stray cargo
gritty dawn
#

nothing really seems to fit

#

right now im thinking something like insight

#

yeah that sounds the best

#

" they would offer tributes as a way to gain insight into channeling the aurora "

#

still a bit weird

#

but ill work off of this

#

im thinking

#

the Auroracle was revered not as a god but as a symbol of primordial magic.

#

i mean all i am working off of is that it was worshipped by a race that is only stated to worship it

#

also i might just remove the " their misguided attempts to bend its power resulting in their own extinction " entirely, but unsure

#

since it is kind of already implied

#

please give feedback im desperate

gritty dawn
sleek scroll
#

Hey I have a question about the lore

rotund shore
#

ask away

sleek scroll
#

In the lore astrum Deus purpose is to eat dead stars and prevent them from turning into astral infection but our Deus failed to do so if its mission is to prevent the infection why did we kill it

hoary berry
#

we didn't kill deus, we freed it from the infection (this isn't really reflected in game though)

wanton tusk
#

I'm pretty sure you punch the infection out of it basically.

earnest flare
#

imagine if you could beat disease irl by beating the shit out of yourself

sleek scroll
wanton tusk
#

You walk into an operating room and the surgeon has a boxing glove on.

devout stratus
#

does DoG and providence still have beef

warm gull
#

dog wants to eat provi and provi wants to kill everything that lives so yes

devout stratus
#

dog is the real goat

#

main character

magic epoch
#

god (not) of all time

devout stratus
#

what should i do for ranger boss rush

magic epoch
devout stratus
#

fuck 💀

magic epoch
devout stratus
#

i always have my cala discord in the help channel

magic epoch
#

also pick up contagion

devout stratus
magic epoch
#

swap for quiver

#

(nihilism one)

buoyant inlet
spring helm
#

i know enby is supposed to mean non-binary, but i keep thinking nb is non-binary and the extra "e" at the start makes me think that enby means extreme non-binary

buoyant inlet
#

Dog wants to kill provi just as much as any other god

#

There's nothing personal between them

buoyant inlet
#

And dog doesn't seek her in particular

magic epoch
#

that's what enby stands for

#

extra non binary, yes

buoyant inlet
#

He just wants to consume godly energy

spring helm
buoyant inlet
#

And provi also doesn't have anything personal against him

magic epoch
#

it's kinda like fuck everything (you included)

frozen zodiac
pliant ruin
#

providence has beef with everyone god has beef with everyone so by extension they both have beef with eachother

hoary berry
#

god has beef with me calsad it's over

solar wharf
#

i would worship providence for some ice cream

sleek scroll
#

Is this chat even about lore anymore 😭

urban hedge
#

Sometimes it is

sinful adder
#

There's no lore left to discuss

#

Except when someone new comes along

high lynx
#

I just got here like two days ago and ive already been in an argument and been asked to relay a message from some guy who got banned to one of the devs

pliant ruin
#

It is when new people come to ask stuff or when someone uses their 3 braincells to think of something new to talk about

high lynx
#

I blocked him

pliant ruin
#

lol i know who you're talking about

high lynx
#

Yeah

#

I didnt even know the drama

#

What was his deal

pliant ruin
#

he was weird

high lynx
#

I can tell

pliant ruin
#

he was creepy towards me this one time and then i got into a huge argument because i was completely sleep deprived and then the next day he kept dming me trying to flirt or something

high lynx
#

I was actually considering doing the favor he asked but i realized he probably got banned for a reason

high lynx
#

Hey i guess you never know what you’re getting on the internet

pliant ruin
#

this huge argument all happened because i asked for a singular apology btw

#

anyways

high lynx
#

Theres one way to continue discussing lore

#

Become a conspiracy theorist

#

Make up things

pliant ruin
#

i think they should redesign the eidolon wyrms and the reaper sharks because it'd be cool : D

high lynx
#

Like leviathan actually being a dragon (i know its not cannon)

pliant ruin
#

I mean to be fair

#

it's possibly related to them

#

so like

high lynx
#

Yeah

pliant ruin
#

it's got some connection maybe atleast

warm gull
#

i just don't get it

high lynx
#

I have a whole theory i made a short for and it took me like weeks for some reason and nobody watched it. But it was fun and im doing it more

high lynx
warm gull
#

why you want to stay Five Nights at Freddy's

high lynx
#

Ive never played five nights at freddy’s

sly bloom
sleek scroll
#

Why was anahita's lore changed so much and whats with Silva taking over the abyss or smth I just don't get it

calm patio
#

Yharim threw silvas body in the abyss which caused life and blessing the PW

rotund shore
#

and silva essentially ran anahita out of her own domain

sleek scroll
sleek scroll
#

Oh....

pliant ruin
#

chtulhu dosen't exist in calamity

sleek scroll
pliant ruin
#

also ye silva is a goddess so automatically on the yharim hitlist

#

unfortunately for the stinky yellow man though she's immortal so she'll just come back to life again in like idk 10 years

sleek scroll
#

I thought they completely forgot about him

pliant ruin
#

nah he just dosent exist

#

that goes for all vanilla lore

rotund shore
#

the other day cei said that yharim probably showers in his armor, stinky lad

pliant ruin
#

he's not only stinky in the manner of speech because he's a evil bad guy but also he's literally probably canonically someone who smells bad

#

he's literally like springtrap they're both basically rotting corpses inside a yellow mech suit

rotund shore
#

yharim is just in this one by choice

warm gull
#

if he showers in his armor I like to think that he has a shower system built into his armor by draedon

rotund shore
pliant ruin
#

real

sleek scroll
pliant ruin
#

yharim bloodied from a near-death fight, walking to his once strongest ally, having not talked to him in ages

spring helm
#

Why didn’t Yharim just auric reject Silva to space

#

Is he stupid?

pliant ruin
#

"draedon i havent showered in 10 years i need a new armor set"

rotund shore
#

with a damn good armor shower

warm gull
#

do you think yharim has youtube in his helmet

pliant ruin
#

do you think yharim watches baby sensory videos on his helmet

rotund shore
#

I feel like draedon in secret is working on youtube

#

hes just, creating youtube

#

as a social experiment

pliant ruin
#

twitter is actually ran by draedon

#

elon musk is a myth

#

its all a huge experiment

rotund shore
warm gull
#

yharim probably has tiktok in his helmet and watches subway surfers gameplay while he watches you fight

magic epoch
#

Elon "Draedon" Musk