lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

well

illmerans

fish people

[delicate oak]

who would win warrior of light or providence?

[pliant ruin]

and jellyfish people

and crab people

etc

[wheat walrus]

idk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

idkmaxxing

[spring helm]

🤷‍♂️

[mighty zenith]

cluelesspilled

[open ruin]

Okay as far as I remember warrior has several one shot attacks

[gritty dawn]

i mean if im writing the glassweaver lore its some sort of an ancient bug soo

[pliant ruin]

Joost mod had some crazy bosses

do u guys remember that one

with the like

giant final fantasy cactus

werent those really strong

[open ruin]

and warrior is so strong your whole world is lit up, eclipses can't happen, it can't turn night, every mob is empowered

[tired lagoon]

Cal clone vs fishron

Who would win

[pliant ruin]

idk

[gritty dawn]

fishron no diff

[open ruin]

Fishron

[pliant ruin]

yeah

probably

[delicate oak]

i shall test this when my internet returns, and install super smash bros mod (i forgot what its called)

[mighty zenith]

oh so its like the one dont starve boss

celestial champion i think

[open ruin]

Fishron is only second to empress if you want to scale HM bosses before cultist

[pliant ruin]

unless stated otherwise its fair to assume if a boss comes later in progression its most likely stronger

[tired lagoon]

Fishron vs moonlord

[pliant ruin]

i was gonna say deus but then i remembered

moonlord

[wheat walrus]

tf

fishron vs moonlord goes crazy

[open ruin]

He's 100% over providence, the final boss tsukiyomi probably close to DoG

[wheat walrus]

why 😭

[pliant ruin]

the entity responsible for kickstarting the extinction of the entire dragon species when a weird fish bites it

[delicate oak]

and warrior of light has a "hard damage cap" where it has an absurd amount of defense based off your damage, just like most of stars above bosses. (it took me like 10 minutes to beat tsukiyomi with post devourer of gods gear)

[mighty zenith]

horrible

[tired lagoon]

All worm boss vs dog👍🏽

[spring helm]

:0

[pliant ruin]

that includes thanatos and primordial wyrm

so all worm bosses lol

[spring helm]

thanatos is going to wring DoG like a wet towel

[pliant ruin]

either one of those could singehandedly kill dog

[open ruin]

Thanatos vs DoG

[spring helm]

also yeah primordial wyrm

[pliant ruin]

a thousand desert scourges vs one of every god

[spring helm]

forgot about him

[open ruin]

I feel like DoG could put up a good fight vs Thanatos

[tired lagoon]

Whose primordial wyrm and thanatos

[delicate oak]

every single early hardmode modded boss battle royale?

[pliant ruin]

primordial wyrm is the big guy from the abyss

thanatos is the exo mech worm

theyre both stronger than dog

[open ruin]

Okay hear me out

if thanatos opens up, DoG would kind of just annihilate him

[delicate oak]

primordial wrym was adult eidolon wrym, and thanatos is the worm draedon spawns (aka destroyer v2)

[spring helm]

use the rod of discord in the abyss for a special surprise

[tired lagoon]

I meant pre dog bosses🥲

[pliant ruin]

dog boasting about his ego

then some funny abyss fish absolutely fucking mauls him

[open ruin]

DoG could win if thanatos opens his vents

[pliant ruin]

oh my god vents like among us

[delicate oak]

whos the threat of the ociean floor!?!?

[rotund shore]

primordial wyrm is so damn strong

[open ruin]

If he doesn't then thanatos wins or if thanatos manages to hit the deathray on him

[pliant ruin]

primordial wyrm is literally just a glub glub fishy

yet its stronger than like

everyone minus like 5 people

[open ruin]

Actually even better question, how strong is thanatos's deathray isn't that like one of the strongest things in the verse

[delicate oak]

primordial worm vs mutant?

[rotund shore]

its beaten out by like, yharim, noxus, full power fovos, xeroc, and uhhh

[open ruin]

Mutant

[pliant ruin]

terrarian

ye

like

[rotund shore]

terrarian true

[open ruin]

Mutant is busted

[mighty zenith]

i mean yeah when you put it like that

[tired lagoon]

Does thanatos drop essential goodies

[pliant ruin]

theres literally only 5 characters

[mighty zenith]

yharim is just a nerd in piss colored armor yet he beats almost everyone

[rotund shore]

judging by fargos souls dlc, mutant is considerably stronger then scal and exo mechs

[pliant ruin]

that are confirmed to be stronger than primordial wyrm

fish power

[rotund shore]

and likely more then wyrm

[pliant ruin]

draedon spent god knows how long making exo mechs

[delicate oak]

also that gfb nameless vs gfb masochist mutant is like an american vs a dude who yaps a lot

[pliant ruin]

and he still can't make them stronger than a fish 😭

fish power!!!

[open ruin]

Fishies

[tired lagoon]

Is draedon evil?

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-ish-fish-limbus-company-gif-15342443188005250480

[delicate oak]

600 years to be exact

[pliant ruin]

uhhhhh not really but he's also not good

[rotund shore]

Why are so many draconic offshoots fish adjacent

[mighty zenith]

he's like
the definition of neutral

[pliant ruin]

he's physically

yeah

he's literally as neutral as it can get

because he dosen't have the physical capability to have human morals

[rotund shore]

like, the fishrons and primordial wyrm are both funny fish draconic offshoots

[delicate oak]

and yet he couldn't make a moon destroying machine

[open ruin]

Okay but what bosses/characters can survive thanatos's deathray isn't that thing like super busted

[mighty zenith]

he can do good things and he can do bad things but he doesnt recognize morality

he does whatever it takes to further his research

[pliant ruin]

Uhhhh

[tired lagoon]

Why did draedon make exo mechs

[delicate oak]

yharim vs yamcha?

[rotund shore]

xeroc could fucking tank that shit

[pliant ruin]

I think alot of the end post ml bosses could probably survive it

like

[mighty zenith]

because why not

[pliant ruin]

yharon dog etc

but

[mighty zenith]

literally

[open ruin]

I don't think they do

[pliant ruin]

it would damage them alot probably

like

[rotund shore]

to rival yharims power, and because having hyper powerful war machines is fun

[pliant ruin]

i dont think the deathray would instantly kill them or anything

but itd still

damage them alot

[tired lagoon]

[open ruin]

Thanatos deathray is like one of the strongest attacks

[mighty zenith]

he wanted to test the current limits in terms of strength of his machines

[tired lagoon]

Who is yharim?

[open ruin]

Okay maybe it doesn't instantly kill yharon

[pliant ruin]

draedon made exo mechs because he wanted to fuck around and find out

[open ruin]

But everyone else just gets disintegrated

[pliant ruin]

a guy

main villain of the mod

[tired lagoon]

Lore

[pliant ruin]

still not in the game

[mighty zenith]

rim

[tired lagoon]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

will be the final boss

eventually

[delicate oak]

fun fact: its easier to dodge when you have a potato pc, (turn off frameskip and you have slowed down time!!!)

[open ruin]

Yharim thinks he's cool till he sees my warcrimes (90 bunny banners 40 crab banners 800 penguin banners)

[pliant ruin]

warcrimes speedrun any%

[tired lagoon]

Calamitas or dryad who would you smash

[pliant ruin]

yharim holds the record currently

[wheat walrus]

fuck you

wtf

[pliant ruin]

calamitas is aroace dont say that

[mighty zenith]

you thinking you're cool til you see his 2 million human banners

[pliant ruin]

also just dont say that in general

its weird

[tired lagoon]

Iam a man

[wheat walrus]

I also am a man

but why are you saying this

[mighty zenith]

im garbo

[delicate oak]

he should see my npc prisons that are actually torture chambers!!! (wish theres a mod that makes your npcs do forced labor)

[open ruin]

I once broke down half of my world, filled it up with a void and made a house in it

[untold oracle]

I’m-12-and-new-to-calamity type question

[mighty zenith]

so true

[pliant ruin]

im 14 and this is dee

p

[tired lagoon]

And im 14🤫

[pliant ruin]

LMAO

[delicate oak]

draedon

[wheat walrus]

yes I'm 17

can you not please

[open ruin]

actually how old are you all

[pliant ruin]

THE TIMING ON THAT

😭

[open ruin]

[mighty zenith]

old enough

[tired lagoon]

I would be his buddy not purtnur😁

[mighty zenith]

[open ruin]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

older than 2

[tired lagoon]

Older than 12

[open ruin]

←strong

[delicate oak]

sorry guys draedon is calling me on my "codebreaker"

[open ruin]

I wanna hyperbuff harvest staff and use it against yharim once he comes out

[small citrus]

Don’t. Just don’t.

[tired lagoon]

Is calamity not fully done?

[pliant ruin]

no

[mighty zenith]

hi lilac

[tired lagoon]

Phew, i need more whips

[rotund shore]

Unfriendly reminder that calamitas is both fictional and aroace

[delicate oak]

if yharim comes out i will make him fight against tsukiyomi from stars above (by using super smash mod) and see if he can defeat her quicker than my max dps loadout.

[pliant ruin]

whips are gonna come whenever they get to making summoner not the most broken class in the game as it is currently

[open ruin]

Rockxalibur (i forgor the name) or Titan arm which smashes better

[pliant ruin]

adding whips ontop of how it is rn would probably be

not ideal

holy shit not ideal

[spring helm]

a little late but

[pliant ruin]

reference i made a reference

[wheat walrus]

lol

[pliant ruin]

real

[open ruin]

I can imagine Artemis and Apollo completely ravage and toy with DoG

[mighty zenith]

fake

[spring helm]

real

[delicate oak]

nah, devourer of gods is just his proclaimed name. he feasts on god's essences and i guess trap them on distortion.

[open ruin]

Actually how strong is yharon compared to the three mechs?

[pliant ruin]

devourer of gods when a big fish, some robots, a nugget and a depressed woman

[pliant ruin]

mmm

id imagine

that yharon is probably like

comparable in strenght to the weakest of the mechs

maybe a little weaker

[open ruin]

I say yharon beats thanatos(unless he gets hit by the deathray) and A&A but loses to ares

[urban hedge]

Isn't warrior of light a MoR dude who's gonna be one of the final bosses in that mod? Definitely Warrior of Light if so

[pliant ruin]

i think individually

[open ruin]

Ares would probably chop yharon into pieces and fry him

[pliant ruin]

yharon vs any 1 of the mechs except probably ares

[gritty dawn]

okay so my vitric desert info

[pliant ruin]

would be like

[gritty dawn]

VITRIC DESERT

1. was a part of illmeris
2. heavily industrial in the creation of glass, made out of crystals with the properties of channeling starlight
3. had a temple tended to by glassweaver species, an ancient buglike species coexisting with the illmerans, with remarkable skill with using crystal
4. how did it survive calamitas? i mean there are still ruins, but its less deserted than the rest of the desert

[pliant ruin]

60/40

but

all 3 mechs at once

would be like

[open ruin]

Yharon vs Hekate

[pliant ruin]

guaranteed loss for yharon probably

[delicate oak]

stars above warrior of light

also hes called deity of light in mod of redemption

[urban hedge]

Pretty sure he's the demigod of light last time I saw

The MoR one I mean

[delicate oak]

yeah, confused it with nameless deity

[urban hedge]

Pretty sure I saw him being called warrior of light in the MoR discord sometimes, and I haven't played Stars Above in a long time so I think you can get how I was confused

[delicate oak]

probably because they confused demigod of light with warrior of light

we also have deity of light (specifically nameless deity of light)

and empress of light

what next? president of light? king of light? mcdonald's worker of light?

[open ruin]

too much light

[delicate oak]

btw what if empress of light is possibly an elemental? with her element being light. a "waifu" and attacks based off her element, basically like other elementals like sand, cloud, brimstone, anahita (and possibly silva)

[open ruin]

Ps she's a tyrant

[tired lagoon]

Noxus vs calamitas

[wheat walrus]

poor cal

[delicate oak]

me vs calamity?

[rotund shore]

calamitas just, dies

noxus is like the second strongest thing we know of

[wheat walrus]

fovos and xeroc

so 3rd

[gritty dawn]

yharim and calamitas vs noxus

[tired lagoon]

Whose that?

[wheat walrus]

fovos is moonlord

[rotund shore]

fovos is moonlord, xeroc is god

[gritty dawn]

fovos = moonlord

[split mortar]

Fovos is alt name of moonlord

[rotund shore]

xeroc is like, the strongest person ever

[tired lagoon]

Lets name nameless diety

[wheat walrus]

no

[tired lagoon]

Why

[open ruin]

Half squid half man calamari moon man, the moon lord

[split mortar]

Noxus can destroy the planet quicker then xeroc im pretty sure

[gritty dawn]

what would be like the extended title of fovos anyways

fovos the moony one

[tired lagoon]

Which mod is xeroc

[gritty dawn]

fortnite

[wheat walrus]

maybe

[split mortar]

Calamity, you thinking of nameless deity which is wrath of the gods?

[tired lagoon]

How to summon xeroc

[gritty dawn]

fovos, the moonlord

[wheat walrus]

not ingame rn

[tired lagoon]

Oh

[split mortar]

Not implemented yet like yharim

[gritty dawn]

like how we have yharon, the dragon of rebirth

fovos, the lord of the moon

[tired lagoon]

Exo mechs vs mechs,mechdusa,storm weaver,deus

Who would win

[gritty dawn]

me

[split mortar]

Exo mechs

Unless infection takes them over afterwords then maybe deus in the end

[tired lagoon]

Nah i'd win

[scenic olive]

So

[gritty dawn]

im gonna try to come up with some lore item for the vitric desert, glassweaver and ceiros and then ill suggest them to the calamity river addon

[scenic olive]

Can astral infect your arm if it was a bionic arm

[split mortar]

Yes

Hell it can infect you if it was organic aswell

[scenic olive]

ok how would it feel like

[split mortar]

It would continue to the rest of the body

[tired lagoon]

The hallow +evils vs the brimstone (every boss + enemies combined) who'd win

[scenic olive]

It can only take over you if youre not sentient

as seen with the player

And Aureus

[tired lagoon]

Rate Universe collapse ?/10

[wheat walrus]

What

[split mortar]

Organic life has been consumed I’m pretty sure

Like deus

That ain’t a machine

That’s a life form

[tired lagoon]

The theme song

[split mortar]

Painful even if you can fend off the infection

[scenic olive]

hmm

[tired lagoon]

Dog theme

[wheat walrus]

Yes

[split mortar]

Isn’t astral infection also debuff so it would just be having that happen 24/7

[tired lagoon]

Rate it

[split mortar]

Good

[wheat walrus]

Na

[scenic olive]

i wonder how does the terrarian wore titan heart armor

shouldnt that hurt them

[split mortar]

We also wear molten armour

And solar

[scenic olive]

because theyre made from astral essence

[split mortar]

And vortex

Maybe we neutralise the infectious properties of it before wearing them?

[scenic olive]

I would imagine molten armor has insulator in them

[delicate oak]

can draedon with infinite any materials he wants + infinite prep time beat xeroc?

the only rules are he cannot use the prep time to forget about fighting xeroc, that counts as forfeiting

[split mortar]

Obviously

[wheat walrus]

I'd say yes

[scenic olive]

technically he can

He has all the time in the world

[split mortar]

At with infinite prep time I would say he could create accurate clones of xeroc

[tired lagoon]

Eye of cthulu vs king slime

[split mortar]

Eye

[wheat walrus]

More than that

[mild hatch]

With infinite time, a monkey can write Hamlet by striking on random keyes

So Draedon can def beat Xeroc with infinite preptime

[split mortar]

Not just that, but end up with a accurate scientific thesis on how to mass produce anti matter aswell

[tired lagoon]

Paladin vs perforator

[amber cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dizzy-guilty-gear-happy-gaming-cute-gif-17133244739521520273

[split mortar]

Lore wise it’s perf, stat wise paladin

[scenic olive]

Riddle me this Omni how much pressure does the bottom depth of abyss have

[wheat walrus]

Maybe

[split mortar]

We don’t know the actual depth since the game world is a continent lore wise yet it’s the size of liek a small island

I’d say probably as deep as Mariana Trench

[scenic olive]

oh we know

[split mortar]

If we were to calculate

[scenic olive]

its sulfur sea not sulfur ocean

[delicate oak]

how powerful would draedon's machines would be with infinite time and resources?

would he reach dragon ball tier?

[tired lagoon]

Its neither, its sulfurous sea

[split mortar]

Did not know there was a difference between those two

[wheat walrus]

Likely up to late dbz

[tired lagoon]

??? Not spawning

[wheat walrus]

Anything after that purely depends on cosmology

[scenic olive]

yea an ocean is so much bigger than a sea

[split mortar]

Probably, he has things that generate high amounts of energy endlessly, and can make those so yeah I’d say yes

[gritty dawn]

like how big even is the sulphurous sea area

[scenic olive]

big

[gritty dawn]

how much of the water is green

[split mortar]

Though they were synonyms, no wonder scal isn’t continental then

[scenic olive]

bigger than sunken sea

and deeper too

[delicate oak]

who would win?

exo mechs or a monkey with infinite prep time (but it cannot forget about fighting exo mechs, its forfeiting)

[split mortar]

Yeah

[gritty dawn]

like no i mean it has to end somewhere since it connects to an ocean

[scenic olive]

idk

could you imagine Draedon flying with a hoverboard like green goblin

[split mortar]

It’s probably a lot more closed off if the water stays that toxic instead of dispersing into the oceans

[delicate oak]

which calamitybosses can you confidently beat? no prep time just straight hands

[split mortar]

And for the life to adapt instead of move away

[scenic olive]

King Slime

Gentleman

[split mortar]

That’s vanilla

[open ruin]

cryogen

[scenic olive]

Noooooooo

[split mortar]

Wait slime is easy to burn

That you can craft torches with bare hands

[scenic olive]

Calamity boss with bare hands no prep?

[split mortar]

Fist fight slime god

[scenic olive]

Uhh

hmm

yeah id be cooked

[split mortar]

Ignite that bitch

[mighty zenith]

none of them

[split mortar]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

realistically

but uhh

id hug aureus and end the fight peacefully :3

[scenic olive]

Unfortunately blighted gel may not be flammable as you cant use it as fuel source in the game

[split mortar]

Touching aureus is a death sentence

[delicate oak]

in anything not just fighting

[scenic olive]

Crushed to pancake

[split mortar]

Is the statigel torches?

[mighty zenith]

nuh uh

[delicate oak]

i will just eat slime god, and become slime god.

[scenic olive]

id beat calamitas in calamity

[split mortar]

Gluttony the gluttony

[scenic olive]

Hop on Calamity

beats you

spare her

[split mortar]

Just join the normal mechs in commiting domestic terrorism and you should be fine till you find a cup of water

[scenic olive]

Actually

[delicate oak]

i can beat draedon in a game that i invented that i only know how to win

[split mortar]

I ain’t a god nor am I at ground zero of unleashing god essence into the world

So they would be fine with me

[scenic olive]

i think i can beat moonlord in soccer

[split mortar]

But he is the ultimate goal keeper

[delicate oak]

i can beat providence in a basketball

nvm she can stay still to block the hoop

[scenic olive]

Does god feel pain

can you torture the calamity gods

[split mortar]

Yeah xeroc can I think

Yes

That’s basically what happened to the god of sacrifice I think

[scenic olive]

like

Ravager is basically a reanimated god

but

does it still feel pain

[split mortar]

I think but it’s too dumb to back away from pain

[scenic olive]

back away

[split mortar]

Slime god flees for its life

[scenic olive]

Maybe they just cant back away

maybe theyre forced to fight

by their merged soul

[split mortar]

Ravager is nigh mindless

[scenic olive]

wanting to end it

[split mortar]

Then why does it attack if it suicidal

[scenic olive]

or maybe they just have big ego

slime god was a mere low-life god

Ravager is an empty shell

and Providence is delusional

[split mortar]

But strong

[delicate oak]

i can beat eye of cthulhu in an arm wrestling challenge

[split mortar]

But what about a staring contest?

[delicate oak]

nah, my eyes will be as dry as desert scourge

[split mortar]

Rip

[scenic olive]

if you heard the words of a man killing the very threat that almost wiped out the dragons many years ago what would you do
a. hide from him
b. dont give a shit about it
c. fight him because youre afraid of such being

[split mortar]

Providence picks c

[scenic olive]

Providence is mad with power

[delicate oak]

was the threat moon lord?

[scenic olive]

it was

moonlord

or formerly known as Fovos

[delicate oak]

oh wait u mean the terrarian?

[scenic olive]

yuh uh

[delicate oak]

d. become an npc that sells the most broken potions in modded terraria history

[split mortar]

I know not what that’s a reference to

[hoary berry]

alcnpc probably

[delicate oak]

the terrarian will be stronger than xeroc with these substances

i was not referencing anything i guess

but i always imagine a nonexistent mod

[scenic olive]

Man i wish i could just become dog

and eat wof

that sounds absurd if you dont play calamity

[delicate oak]

like imagine a mod where it adds npcs from a very obsolete and unpopular game/franchise, and one day it suddenly appears in the mod browser.

[split mortar]

Sounds neat

[scenic olive]

i can imagine a mod

[delicate oak]

example: "chicken fighters mod, adds the chickens like clucky the karate chicken, and cockatrice the fire chicken. this mod is based off an old and obsolete game "chicken fighters"

[scenic olive]

where you find an npc in this dimension

that sells you potions and herbs

and also he tells you he really likes ants

[pliant ruin]

his name is breolor

[scenic olive]

oh wait-

[split mortar]

Brealor

[mighty zenith]

broleor

[split mortar]

Where did the brealor likes ants thing come from

[scenic olive]

the human psyche

[split mortar]

Ah

[scenic olive]

it always has been there

we never realize it

cant escape it

[split mortar]

That brealor likes ants?

[scenic olive]

braelor does likes ants

[delicate oak]

second example: "rainbow village mod: adds new npcs like gina the wood pirate, kiki the ceramic princess, and more. this mod is based of a children's show "rainbow ruby"."

[scenic olive]

It is

An obsolete knowledge

divine

in nature

[split mortar]

Just pour boiling water on the ants

[scenic olive]

Akin to the Fibonacci sequence

or the golden rotation

[delicate oak]

imagine one day, you just see the mod based off your favorite fandom appear at your browser, just for it to either be really low quality or the best mod you have ever seen. (its actually just on par with most mods)

[split mortar]

More terraria with my terraria

[delicate oak]

terraria mod: adds new bosses like king slime, eye of cthulhu, and skeletron, new structures like dungeon, sky islands, and new biome corruption.

[scenic olive]

Terraria²

the sequel we've been waiting for

[delicate oak]

or even a calamity addon called "calamity mod" where "adds new bosses like desert scourge and crabulon, new biome astral infection, new npcs sea king and archmage"

[scenic olive]

about noxus

noxus

idk

Lore entry is not available

please try again later in 12 years

[split mortar]

I think we’d have to wait till distortion update for more noxus lore

[scenic olive]

Look its the ants lore guy

@ionic harness

[ionic harness]

rahhh

[split mortar]

Burn the ants

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

Make fire ants

[ionic harness]

back with a new account

[leaden bridge]

You're not going to believe what'll happen in a few months

[split mortar]

What

[spring helm]

chicken butt

[scenic olive]

Ratatouille

[buoyant inlet]

Real

You imply vanillamity right

[cloud ibex]

no

walmart is gonna have a sale for everything bagels

[buoyant inlet]

Walmarity

[visual kiln]

hiiii lore users

[buoyant inlet]

Wtf Deus lover

Crin g

Hi azzy

[leaden bridge]

No

[buoyant inlet]

Dang

Well it's still close

Tho vanillamity isn't addon

[open ruin]

Hi azzy

[visual kiln]

haiiiiiii

[hollow abyss]

haven’t brushed up on the lore in ages, why are we going around murdering everything?

[cloud ibex]

a lot of everything deserves it

[hollow abyss]

because i thought it would be funny

i simply exist as a vessel to make the story go further

[hoary berry]

i literally have an oc called the vessel

who is simply a physical vessel inhabited by the minds of thousands of dead beings

not my main oc though, more of a side thing

[leaden bridge]

Whatever motivations you give yourself aside you're going around powerfantasy-ing your way around cleaning up the mess of Yharim the Yharim

[buoyant inlet]

He got long

And ghastlier

[ionic harness]

woah

that thing has to be the size of the whole abyss

[buoyant inlet]

Nah he's not intended to be that big

[leaden bridge]

Wormed out

[buoyant inlet]

More like unwormed am I right

[hoary berry]

it actually looks like a life form now

that's awesome

[buoyant inlet]

If I was to put Terrarian for scale it'd something like this

[pliant ruin]

i love him

this will be eidolon wyrm in 5 seconds from now

he actually looks like something that could be related to a dragon now

[ionic harness]

eidolon whale

scrunkle the whale

this guys name is scrunky

[sinful adder]

Looks very cool but I still think this design fits the leviathan better

[scenic olive]

Eidoloviathan

[split mortar]

Do we know how the terminus could originally be used to grant “boundless power” and why can’t it be used for that now?

[spring helm]

out of charge

(we dont know)

[split mortar]

Probably wrong but maybe it was used in the god ascension ritual and since all dragons are dead we can’t use it for that purpose?

[buoyant inlet]

Presumably it was used for pure ascension

Where gots inherited dragon's domain purely

Without changes

[split mortar]

So it’s be used for the perfect ascension that xeroc did

[buoyant inlet]

Like, Xeroc and Silva both have the same domain as their dragons, and they both are connected to terminus

[split mortar]

Makes sense

[scenic olive]

Man i had a really cool idea about terminus while in the bathroom

but i forgot

what it was

[warm gull]

the terminus was what is required to make a perfect ascension, and it's instructions were written down by someone (most likely zeratros, but that's my personal theory)

All of this comes from cosmaticmango

[wheat walrus]

[stark basalt]

im not a fucking YOYO

[brittle girder]

who is bro serving

[spring helm]

Noxus probably

[autumn mirage]

he stole my 10 count nuggies

[hushed geyser]

Me

[brittle girder]

when the lore is plentiful

[split mortar]

Likely noxus

Are the yharim whispers dropped from bosses going to be removed later?

[cosmic zenith]

They'll be reworked into a more fitting method of presenting that information

[split mortar]

Ah ok

Why does he talk to us so early though? I don’t think killing a big chunk of normal slime is noteworthy enough for yharim to consider us out of the normal

[hushed geyser]

Clearly it is

[cosmic zenith]

Which is one of the flaws in the current presentation

[hushed geyser]

True

His yharveillance cameras saw you

[warm gull]

no way, the lore items are being changed

One of the classics

no more boss infodump that nobody ends up reading

blurg

[thorny halo]

Whuut you and ur friend won't read lore items out loud and force the other to patiently listen?

[warm gull]

I have to nerd out on them about the lore while they barely pay attention

[split mortar]

I read them, even when I have read them before

[thorny halo]

Then I'm lucky that my usual Calamity playbuddy is also interested in the lore (also in torturing me by making me pronounce hard words :(( )

[split mortar]

Good for you on the first half

Second half? Learn

[thorny halo]

it's not my fault that engerish has stupid rules

After that autocorrect mistake I will now proceed to watch cat vids to lessen the feeling of embarrassment

[split mortar]

You are being judged

[peak minnow]

Yes, yes it does

[warm gull]

english does have weird rules yes

however, skill issue

simply get better at predicting

[split mortar]

Just remember all like 1 million words

[warm gull]

prefire english words

[split mortar]

Prefer

[warm gull]

no

[thorny halo]

I'm trying my best
There are 4 languages in my head fighting for dominance

[warm gull]

pre-fire

[split mortar]

Ok

[warm gull]

like in rainbow six

[split mortar]

Just become monolingual then

Unlearn

[thorny halo]

I will just go back baby babbling

[split mortar]

Bye

[devout stratus]

whats the lore behind queen slime

and why is she stronger than fuckin slime god

[spring helm]

it's slime god

[devout stratus]

why is a god weaker than slime woman

[languid badge]

they are the same

slime god is qs

[north wigeon]

slime god escaped to go take hrt in the hallowed

[devout stratus]

oh what

[sinful adder]

terraria has teleportation, yharim could probably just teleport a letter he wrote to your doorstep

[devout stratus]

so slime god is canonically trans

[sinful adder]

slime god got stuck in queen slime when trying to make a hallowed paladin

[devout stratus]

lmao

[spring helm]

you dont directly fight slime god in its boss fight

you fight its two paladins

after you destroy those it runs away

[clear vessel]

Slime God is, in almost every sense, gender fluid

[devout stratus]

so thats why the fight is boring now

[spring helm]

and when you start hardmode the Hallow biome is unleashed

[devout stratus]

i didnt know why the slime god core phase was gone

make sense now

slime god's a coward 😭

[spring helm]

yes

that's slime god stuck in there

[spring helm]

canon

[warm gull]

hi

[spring helm]

hello

[devout stratus]

what was the lore of astrageledon slime

or at least, what was it

if it had any back then

[rotund shore]

It did have a lore item yeah

I forget what it says

I have to imagine it’s just, big astral monster

[devout stratus]

tbh i prefer astrageledon over aureus

[rotund shore]

Astrageldon looked like a really mid fight

[leaden bridge]

astrageldon was basically what aureus is right now

the fight didnt really change much

the stomp got changes but as far as we remember nothing else major ever happened

obviously there's been billions of small changes since then but the meat is the exact same

[spring helm]

astral infected slime

that was about it i think

[leaden bridge]

yeah that was the lore

[calm patio]

iirc it reused most KS ai right

[leaden bridge]

probably

but like again current aureus isnt really that different

aureus got walking and eventually the weird stomp but outside of that its still very similar to astragel

the lasers, crystals and spawns were nearlyt he same

[visual kiln]

hiihih

[warm gull]

hii

[visual kiln]

plumg

[warm gull]

calamimain doesn't have a plumg emoj

wtf

[clear vessel]

Pretty sure it was another Slime God Paladin
That boss only existed during Old Lore, in which the Slime God never died

[leaden bridge]

plumg isnt real outside of broskian circles since that is where the isaac calamity overlap spread out from

[leaden bridge]

nah, it was its own thing

[warm gull]

i don't know who broskian is

[leaden bridge]

that is not a person, it is a Collective, a mindset

[devout stratus]

astrageledon looks cooler and the song is cooler

imo

[leaden bridge]

astrageldon didnt look cooler it was a slime

[real silo]

aureus is made of metal (colder than slime)

[leaden bridge]

although we're definitely not fans of Aureus' design

[real silo]

therefore aureus is cooler

[warm gull]

yeah.... in catalyst, sure.

[devout stratus]

the catalyst sprite is absolutely beautiful i love it

[calm patio]

old geldon back then fucking sucks

[devout stratus]

but the old one was cool

song always was better tho imo

[calm patio]

but boss wise? no

[devout stratus]

i dont like the catalyst phase 2 tho

[leaden bridge]

its okay aureus isnt much better

[devout stratus]

i wish they made it a boss and not a superboss

[warm gull]

what

[calm patio]

phase2 is fun

[leaden bridge]

that wouldnt have changed anything

[calm patio]

dunno what u on

[leaden bridge]

those words are arbitrary

superboss isn't a defined thing

[devout stratus]

it looks out of place

and idk i didnt find it fun

especially near the end

[calm patio]

and how is it out of place

[devout stratus]

looks like something out of infernum

i want my bosses simple but hard

[calm patio]

[devout stratus]

i love yharon for that

or providence

or dog

or goliath

they're all simple bosses yet are challenging and interesting to fight, no enormous effects or anything

[warm gull]

me when infernum does difficulty better

[ionic harness]

does anyone actually use the vc for anything?

lore talk is def the best place to ask this

[spring helm]

Lobby for a lore discussion vc

[ionic harness]

we need this fr

how can we achieve this

@spring helm just sent something to mod mail about it lol

watch me get this voice channel added

[warm gull]

I feel like the current voice channels are fully capable of being used for lore discussion

however, we don't use them anyways

[ionic harness]

just give me 24 hours

[spring helm]

I wait with vested interest

[ionic harness]

willing to sell my soul for this

(bought a calamitas plush)

[scenic olive]

your soul

for a braelor plush

[spring helm]

biome blade plush when

[trail zodiac]

12 fargo years

[scenic olive]

ants plush

[spring helm]

oh that's not too long it's only
calculations
16 ilmeran months

[sinful adder]

day 1 thousand of waiting for the Sunken Sea update...

[rotund shore]

It’s been 27 Fargos years since the waiting began…

[sinful adder]

(I said SSO but then I realized that acronym doesn't make sense and I can't remember where I heard it)

[leaden bridge]

SSO is sunken sea overhaul and you heard it from a dev

[sinful adder]

I see

[junior bramble]

What’s ravagers place in the lore?

Is he literally just not important lol

[sinful adder]

Zombified god of sacrifices

[junior bramble]

Hm ok I see why you fight him ig

[rotund shore]

The terrarian doesn’t seem to actively pursue ravager canonically

[buoyant inlet]

He was the God of sacrifices, who died during the crusade, and was attempted to be reanimated through necromancy by his followers. It failed, and he turned into a bloodthirsty monster who killed his worshippers

[rotund shore]

Most boss summon is non canon

[leaden bridge]

We mean he's still not at all important that soul is gone

[junior bramble]

Nothingburger boss in game and in lore 😭😭

[leaden bridge]

This is actually kind of depressing

[rotund shore]

Just wait for the rework

[leaden bridge]

Haha

[rotund shore]

Also can we call ravager a nothingburger when crabulon exists

[buoyant inlet]

God of sacrifices can potentially be an interesting contrast and counterpart to provi and her followers

[leaden bridge]

More than one nothingburger can exist at the same time

[rotund shore]

If ravager is canonically stronger then provi, god it must of been strong in life

[leaden bridge]

Astrum deus is right there, so is dog

[rotund shore]

Deus got a good chunk more lore with draetalk tbh

[ionic harness]

agreed

[leaden bridge]

Doesn't change the fact the fight is the most nothingburger thing ever

[ionic harness]

damn

[buoyant inlet]

I will never forget deus for not having a single star themed attack

[leaden bridge]

Deus has nothing at all it's also kinda depressing actually

[ionic harness]

pretty fun boss at least

[leaden bridge]

not at all ! ! !

[junior bramble]

He drops a goated magic weapon

The aurora one

[leaden bridge]

that's aureus

[rotund shore]

The summon is good too apparently but still doesn’t beat out terraprisma

[warm gull]

hi

[buoyant inlet]

Bazoinkadoinkers

[warm gull]

banhonkagaloos

[rotund shore]

Possible brimstone elemental reference?

[ionic harness]

terraria fans when bazangahoodongadoobies exist

[spring helm]

it's my fanfic, i get to pick how big the bahonkazookoinks are

[earnest flare]

fun fact: ravager doesnt exist

he'll be added eventually

but i dont know why people keep convincing themselves that hes in the mod already

[sinful adder]

I don't want to join their server again just to check, has Spirit mod been updated significantly past that one ocean update?

[earnest flare]

sir this is lore discussion

[sinful adder]

...yeah

uh

other channel, right

I'm going insane and asking about updates for the wrong mod in the lore channel. This is what a lack of new lore does to a person

[ionic harness]

This is exactly why we need a lore voice chat

I need my lore bros to help me on my campaign

[sinful adder]

what

why

voice chats are dumb

[ionic harness]

No but trust me

[visual kiln]

the goober

[calm patio]

theres nothing much public of him

[warm gull]

noxus is an entropic guy from distortion

very evil

[earnest flare]

noxus' favorite ice cream flavor between vanilla chocolate and strawberry is strawberry

because he's the type to genuinely like strawberry ice cream

umm i think that noxus would be more of a fan of watching liveleak videos, not anime

no hes not

yharim's supposed to be the guy who likes one piece

not noxus

since forever smh

no actually noxus is a band kid

[calm patio]

^

[distant dagger]

is he

[warm gull]

noxus has to be killed immediately for this

[pliant ruin]

noxus is getting beaten to death in 3 seconds

[distant dagger]

man do not use noxus sprayer on xeroc

i think he broke the 4rth wall

[earnest flare]

but xeroc isnt in the mod...

[distant dagger]

he did get killed imedietly

[earnest flare]

how would you use a nonexistent item on a nonexistent boss

[distant dagger]

no i unamed deity uses the light thing and so does xeroc

plus the simbol is there

might not be canon tho

[earnest flare]

ok but like

the insignia isn't explicitly xeroc's to begin with

its literally jusst the symbol for primordial light

[distant dagger]

yea unamed and xeroc has it

[earnest flare]

yeah so dont say that both are the same person

or use them interchangeably

thanks

[distant dagger]

the only one other then xeroc himself that use light is empres and unamed

[earnest flare]

yeah

[distant dagger]

so is unamed empres

[earnest flare]

no of course not

and xeroc is not nameless

[distant dagger]

yea so who is he than

[pliant ruin]

nameless

[earnest flare]

nameless is nameless

[pliant ruin]

its in the name

[earnest flare]

what name

[calm patio]

nameless is NOT xeroc

just to let you know

[mighty zenith]

its in the

[calm patio]

it "used" to be

[distant dagger]

but there so simaler

[calm patio]

not at all

[earnest flare]

no not really

[mighty zenith]

they really arent

[calm patio]

xeroc is a lower case g god that abosrbed a auric soul

Nameless is a capital G God

big difference there

[mighty zenith]

they both use the boss rush sigil but im pretty sure for nameless the meaning of it is different or smth

[distant dagger]

light and hes a tryant

[calm patio]

he isnt a tyrant

?

thats yharim

[earnest flare]

a. empress also uses light
b. thats yharim

[distant dagger]

is he not?

how would he not

[earnest flare]

xeroc is quite chill judging by his boss rush dialogue

[distant dagger]

he is a god and hes clearly controles u the player

[calm patio]

no?

[earnest flare]

wtf no he doesnt

[mighty zenith]

wha

[calm patio]

where are you getting this from

[mighty zenith]

where'd you get that from

[earnest flare]

ok well maybe he does since terrarian lore is up to you

[distant dagger]

then what is the well done screen

[earnest flare]

thats nameless

not xeroc

[mighty zenith]

thats nameless
who isnt canon

[distant dagger]

ok i got it confused with yharim

[calm patio]

yharim is the villian

the one whos speaking to you on the lore items

Not xeroc

[distant dagger]

i think we all know yharim is xeroc right

[calm patio]

no

[mighty zenith]

[calm patio]

theyre two different people

[distant dagger]

how

[mighty zenith]

they just are??

[distant dagger]

thne th is yharim then

[mighty zenith]

xeroc is the first person to ascend

[calm patio]

the main villian

[distant dagger]

ohh

[calm patio]

and the one who didnt absorb the auric soul

please go read the lore doc in the pins

[mighty zenith]

yharim was destined to ascend with yharon's soul but didn't

[calm patio]

because this sounds like some fandom shit

[mighty zenith]

and went on a crusade to kill all gods

[distant dagger]

sry i cant remember shit

yea

then he went oops i didnt clean up one of the dead gods

no 2

no there crimson and couruption

now

[calm patio]

those were the dumping grounds of dead gods

[distant dagger]

they where

but wernt crimson and couruption dead gods

in a way

[delicate oak]

what if you (not the terrarian, you) absorbed an auric soul somehow (through some old book at your basement, attic, or "borrowed" from library)

[calm patio]

thats the neat part

you dont

[distant dagger]

yea

[calm patio]

because the people who learned the ritual wouldnt put in a book tbh

[distant dagger]

we still funa talk about how yall violated dm douk

[calm patio]

you mean harrassed?

[distant dagger]

yea

[calm patio]

its legit common around here and been said multiple times

death threats and all that

[mighty zenith]

its fucked up but yeah its been talked about so many damn times

[distant dagger]

ges there is a such a thing as cooking to hard

[calm patio]

no people harrassed him to put out the themes quicker

like stained brutal calamity

[earnest flare]

we still not over this?

dokuro is

[distant dagger]

that that is strait up brimstone flame🔥

[warm gull]

Why learn the ascension ritual when I can just craft myself together with an auric soul

[distant dagger]

but fuck evryone who harraset dokuro

wait

dont u get an auric soul from yharam

why not use it

[warm gull]

no you get little pieces of his soul

[calm patio]

those are fragments

[warm gull]

somehow

but ig the big one gets away or smth

[distant dagger]

but u just need 1 to accend in the lore

[mighty zenith]

his soul sheds a little every time he respawns

[calm patio]

you need a full soul

[warm gull]

his soul runs away

[mighty zenith]

[mighty zenith]

(just a theory, A GA

[calm patio]

thats why you make a mock attunement which you can use auric armor

yharims is pure auric iirc

[distant dagger]

no dont he quit so u cant say that

yea yharims is the bling urs is fake bling

[mighty zenith]

pure yharoids

[warm gull]

I don't get how putting yharon soul fragments into auric bars suppossedly makes it weaker

[mighty zenith]

i dont think it makes it weaker

according to stip

[warm gull]

oh

[distant dagger]

no only with mock atunement

[warm gull]

I thought I heard somewhere that it makes it weaker

[distant dagger]

wothout its insane

[mighty zenith]

the only difference is auric rejection and draedon's extra shit

[warm gull]

gotcha

I suppose yharim will have to probably tank a billion hits with endgame weapons because they most certainly aren't gonna code him to dodge you

[distant dagger]

draedon rly fucket up with the plauge

[pliant ruin]

i mean

yharim was the one who released it

so its also kind of his fault too

[untold oracle]

I mean it ain’t that bad

[mighty zenith]

reinforced exo plating

[untold oracle]

I don’t see that many plague enemies

[pliant ruin]

plague is pretty bad but its not as bad as some other things

like

yharim most definitely did things that are worse than creating the plague

[warm gull]

why did yharim release the plague and then get pissed at draedon is he stupid

[pliant ruin]

yes

[warm gull]

true

[pliant ruin]

dimb ass!

[untold oracle]

Yharim cut contact with Draedon because of the plague, he didn’t order it

He saw it as inhumane

[pliant ruin]

i'm aware

[warm gull]

I thought that too

[pliant ruin]

but he did worse

[distant dagger]

like ceating 2 plauges

[warm gull]

that yhar had no part in the plague

[pliant ruin]

also

he released pbg

he's the one responsible for the plague spreading

[distant dagger]

yea

so3

[pliant ruin]

dreadon made it but yharim was the one who got angry and punched a hole in draedon's lab causing pbg to release into the wild

[distant dagger]

so 3

[pliant ruin]

wdym 3

[untold oracle]

Lmao that was one hell of a punch

[pliant ruin]

oh

crimson and corruption i guess

though those arent rly a plague

but they do sort of

yknow

[distant dagger]

they are

[pliant ruin]

corrupt things

[untold oracle]

They are corpses of gods that weren’t taken care of

[warm gull]

so basically he got mad at draedon for making something that could harm somebody and then did the only thing that could possibly allow it to harm somebody?

[pliant ruin]

ye

they're godly essence distorting the world around them

[pliant ruin]

yes

[distant dagger]

look at those things there desies and rot

[untold oracle]

Yharim kinda caused it but he was just inexperienced at the time

[pliant ruin]

i wouldnt say that

well

ok

[distant dagger]

yea but its yharims fault they got realesed

[pliant ruin]

it probably played a part in it

but also

[untold oracle]

They were at the very start of the crusade iirc

[mighty zenith]

wasnt the plague only like

[warm gull]

Yharim was like "wtf dude you made a gun that's bad" and then picked it up and shot somebody and blamed draedon

[mighty zenith]

a few years ago

[pliant ruin]

i definitely think yharim intentionally let them fester to an extent

[pliant ruin]

reaç

real

he did this

[pliant ruin]

this is because

the hallow

made of benevolent gods

was fully sealed

within the wall

[mighty zenith]

like that one eric andre meme

[pliant ruin]

but the crimson/corruption

made of evil gods

wasn't

and that leads me to believe he intentionally let a portion of the evil biome live on

as to work in tangent with his propaganda that gods are Evil and Bad

[distant dagger]

did yharim make the wall

[pliant ruin]

people are only gonna see the gross disgusting corpse lands

so they're gonna be easier to be convinced that

all gods are bad

[warm gull]

he also killed the crimson/corruption gods before he learned how to seal them in the wof tho

[pliant ruin]

since the God Corpse Area looks like that

[pliant ruin]

ye

[warm gull]

at least according to him

[pliant ruin]

i think

those biomes existing was initially accidental

[distant dagger]

no blurg is right

[pliant ruin]

but i think them continuing to exist is intentional

[warm gull]

oh I getcha

[distant dagger]

yea

[pliant ruin]

he could've sealed them fully in WoF if he wanted to

but he didn't

because muh propaganda

[distant dagger]

bro prob just didnt have time

[pliant ruin]

he definitely did

he did it with the hallow

and the crusade was like

100 years

or something

[distant dagger]

cus plauge and dreadon fire