lore-discussion

[mighty zenith]

like i imagine there's gonna be inspiration taken from armstrong

but i dont want calamity's final boss to just be a reference

thats lame as fuck

[sturdy current]

LOL YHARIM JUST STAYS STILL AS THE PLAYER THROWS A BARRAGE OF PUNCHES

Yeah Yharim better actually be an intense boss fight

Believe it or not I beat calamitas my second try

Calamitas was an ex boss fight

Ez*

So was yharon

I was Yharim to be that guy if yk what I mean

Dashing at the player 24/7 and all that good stuff

[mighty zenith]

no please

no more dashing

im tired boss

[sturdy current]

we are done when I say we are done

[leaden bridge]

If Yharim dashes we're commiting war crimes you've never heard of

[sturdy current]

Yharim should dash, yharon dashes

Also Yharim wields a sword doesn't he? It would make sense if he dashes at the player trying to kill them

Also he should be faster than the player not to the point where he can outrun them but to the point where the player can't run away while using a homing weapon or smth

[leaden bridge]

Yharon happens to be a massive dragon

Yharim shouldn't dash

[cosmic zenith]

Agreed

[leaden bridge]

At least not in any "charge" way
If he does anything of the sort it's to get close enough to slash you we guess

[buoyant inlet]

Yharim just runs into you like a train

With train sound effect

[cosmic zenith]

Yharim's Careless Whispers

[sturdy current]

Yharims is a fucking god slayer dude, ofc he will dash at the player trying to swing his blade at them

[cosmic zenith]

This is cool as fuck
Is this the elusive Cei art?

[sturdy current]

He fits the criteria for an aggressive bladesman

[real silo]

he can dash but he shouldn't ram

that'd be stupid

[sturdy current]

Ram isn't dashing

[real silo]

scal's ram only works because of the skul

[cosmic zenith]

Mango is gonna work on concept art for that

[real silo]

Didn't say it was

Stinky

[leaden bridge]

zzzz different things when it's a charge (what literally every cal boss with one does) and anything else zzzzzzzz

[sturdy current]

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
Yharim dashing would make sense

[sturdy current]

But like genuinely if Yharim isn't dashing at the player how tf does he deal damage then? He isn't a mage anymore

[cosmic zenith]

Kinda like Rengoku

[sturdy current]

THANK YOU

[leaden bridge]

We know this is surprising but you can design things

[sturdy current]

We know this is surprising but if you cant touch an enemy in any way you can't hurt them

This is stupid

[cosmic zenith]

Yharim is mainly a melee fighter, so yeah, he would want to close the distance between him and the target fast

[sturdy current]

Thank you

[cosmic zenith]

Picture Rengoku from Demon Slayer

[leaden bridge]

we don't think Yharim will have a single contact damage attack tbh

It'd be dumb

[sturdy current]

It's not hard to understand

[sturdy current]

Yeah ight lol

[leaden bridge]

That has nothing to do with what we said zzzzzz

[cosmic zenith]

So you think the famously melee boss will rely entirely on ranged attacks

[sturdy current]

LMFAO

[real silo]

Yeah he's a magelee clearly

[sturdy current]

it's so pointless Neko is just trolling at this point

[leaden bridge]

? Him using his sword isn't contact damage

[cosmic zenith]

In that sense, I also think contact damage proper will not be very common

[sturdy current]

He's a melee fighter. He's gonna have to dash at the player. And probably have a sword that swings projectiles too so the player doesn't feel too safe when out of range

[real silo]

I get it now

ram fans in shambles

[leaden bridge]

He's gonna have his own silly arena anyway so there's a billion different ways to make it so you can't get that far away from him

[real silo]

(they can't ram through yharim's sword swing)

[cosmic zenith]

I'd imagine that even the "contact damage" attacks where he uses his own body would be framed as short-ranged attacks rather than just you touching his hitbox

[leaden bridge]

he'd punch you or some shit yeah

[real silo]

yharim grabs you through the screen

[sturdy current]

That would be sick

[sturdy current]

LMFAO

[leaden bridge]

But it wouldn't be like, oops he touched you!

It shouldn't be at least

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-emoji-grab-gif-15430553

Yeah

[sturdy current]

Drags u into the world of calamity 😭😭😭

"now u on my turf mf"

[leaden bridge]

We'd kill Yharim easily

[sturdy current]

Lmfao ok

[leaden bridge]

He's simply not that guy

[sturdy current]

What makes you say that

Pffft

[leaden bridge]

We're simply better

[tall delta]

lore

[sturdy current]

Yharim should have a ranged attack too, especially if he's using exo auric armor

Like shooting a bolt of electricity or smth

[leaden bridge]

Anyways we're glad Yharim's not being added until 2037 because by then we won't have to mind the fallout of his existence

[tall delta]

If xeroc yharim and terrarian were the only mortals that entered the aerie how did the ritual get leaked

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

yharim with auric exo armor thing

[sturdy current]

LMFAOO

[sturdy current]

Damnit I woulda used my lmfao on this but it's on cooldosn

[north wigeon]

can't wait for the 2 yharim bullet hell phases
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/720915148642189324.webp?size=48

[leaden bridge]

important question!

We'd say we'd like to see it answered but Calamity desperately needs a mystery

[sturdy current]

4chan users obviously

[split mortar]

The gods are 4 chan users? No wonder the crimson and corruption are so horrible

[sturdy current]

LMFAOAOAOOAOAO

[cosmic zenith]

In recent history, only he and Yharon have trod there [...]

It's never said they were the only mortals

[sturdy current]

Well I figure they might be the only ones currently to go there

Mainly because who else would go? Not even draedon is intelligent enough to reach it.

[tall delta]

I recall someone or somewhere saying they were the only mortals that have entered the aerie

[buoyant inlet]

It's not really about intelligence

[solar wharf]

is the lethal company lore canon to calamity's future!?!?

[cosmic zenith]

Even if it was a dev who said it, if it's not ingame, it's not canon

[buoyant inlet]

It probably is something that draedon with his pragmatic mind can't comprehend

[sturdy current]

Ok he just can't find it

[buoyant inlet]

Maybe something spiritual idk

Yes, he can't find it

And he tried to

Really hard

[sturdy current]

He admits he can't find it, and it's probablt because the aerie exists outside of the normal universe or wtv. As if it's a different realm

Like heaven. U can't float up or find heaven

[leaden bridge]

Its just hidden by magic oldest trick in the book zzzzz

[cosmic zenith]

We devs try to present information that has a high likelihood of making it ingame "intact", or point out that it's just headcanon/requires further discussion
But even we can make mistakes sometimes
Anything that isn't ingame yet is subject to change and revision

[frozen stag]

Hola chait

[sturdy current]

Draedon would know if it was, he prolly looked everywhere

[leaden bridge]

You have to offer up the Draconic Runes at Draco's Pass to pass

No he wouldn't because the magic prevents him from locating it with sensors

And the spell itself leaves no trace

Zzzzzz

[sturdy current]

I doubt magic would work that way

Saying that is actively underestimating who draedon is

[leaden bridge]

draedon freaks out about dog doing something because of the laws of thermodynamics while using a crystal that never stops generating energy

[sturdy current]

Didn't he say he surveyed everything with his drones or wtv

[leaden bridge]

Yeah and his drones can't see it because magic

It's that shrimple

[sturdy current]

They can sense it, or detect its presence through clues. That's stupid

We already have stuff like that irl, draedon would prolly be more advanced

[leaden bridge]

No it can't it's hidden by magic

[sturdy current]

My point is going over your head lmao

[leaden bridge]

no it doesnt its just that your point is dumb because draedon doesnt have to be above whatever magic is being used to hide it

[sturdy current]

You are stupid

[leaden bridge]

draedon didn't get to study yharon and its probable that his studies on auric aren't enough to develop anything capable of finding the aerie

[sturdy current]

Just because something is invisible, doesn't mean we dont know it's there

[leaden bridge]

it's old dragon magic he knows nothing about

[sturdy current]

Wind is invisible. Yet it's obvious when it's present or not

[leaden bridge]

it could also be intangible? this is a magical world

you can Do That

[sturdy current]

That's a fair point but ur literally underestimating him

[leaden bridge]

no we're not

[split mortar]

It is like super dragon advanced magic so I’m pretty sure this being above draedons perception makes sense

[high lynx]

My guess is its another dimension like the distortion

[sturdy current]

Yeah

[leaden bridge]

he can nuke the world a hundred times over but if the magic that hides the aerie is strong enough he can't do anything unless he studies it directly

[sturdy current]

My point goes over your head AGAIN

[leaden bridge]

and the only thing that he has access to that gets close to that is Auric

and he probably can't even use auric all that well because of Rejection

[sturdy current]

If it isn't a dimension. Then he woulda sensed it by now

[high lynx]

Also dragons are almost all dead only yharon would be supplying the aerie with magic

[leaden bridge]

we don't know

[sturdy current]

Idk if that's how it works

[leaden bridge]

draedon mentions the possibility that it is the aerie that supplies the dragons with magic

[sturdy current]

But ig it's a valid point for now

[high lynx]

Yeah i suppose

Well the dragons only died off because they left the aerie for some reason

[leaden bridge]

like in game it is going tob e a subworld because of reasons but that doesnt necessarily mean its another dimension and honestly we would prefer it to Not

itd be better if it was a physical place within terraria and just not accessible through normal means

[sturdy current]

We've explored.. THE ENTIRE WORLD OF TERRARIA BY NOW 😭

[split mortar]

I’m pretty sure we canonically just vibe on a continent not the entire world

[leaden bridge]

youve explored the continent of Terraria for all we know aerie is floating above the ocean some miles away from where our coastline ends

[high lynx]

Are you thinking its like a force field that camouflages it and cannot be entered?

[leaden bridge]

and even then it could be intangible and invisible and uninteractable until you access it through whatever magical means

[high lynx]

Yes but i think we’re saying draedon has

[trim edge]

there must be a lore reason we can't leave the continent and it's not just gameplay

[sturdy current]

I think draedon would have found it by now and if he didn't that wouldn't have made sense. He would've developed survey drones to scout and look for abnormal parts in the sky

[leaden bridge]

because its magic! we have child soldier over there being utlra powerfulb ecause of lineage or some shit the aerie can be hidded by magic its okay

[sturdy current]

You are actually not listening to my point

[leaden bridge]

no we are

we just think that, again

he maybe just cant

because his tools just don't work

[sturdy current]

Yeah I'm blocking you after that one 💀

[leaden bridge]

because the magic that hides the aerie is above being detected by those tools

zzzz

[real silo]

Local dude can't comprehend that maybe draedon isn't all-knowing and has things out of his knowledge

[sturdy current]

My point is guys that detecting something without being able to see it isn't impossible and in some cases very easy

[trim edge]

the dragons predicted the exact technology draedon would use and specifically hid the aerie in a way that counters it

[sturdy current]

Like a shadow forming on the ground

[high lynx]

Or we just haven’t had a reason to leave, or the devs dont want to expand terrain generation to make an ENTIRE PLANET which is justifiable.

[leaden bridge]

there's no shadow because the magic makes it so theres no shadow

[sturdy current]

A shadow forms on the ground for no reason, that's the aerie

[real silo]

And ender is arguing that maybe the magic used by the dragons completely hides every trace of it so that draedon literally just couldn't detect it in a million years

[high lynx]

This is crazy

[leaden bridge]

hell magical invisible objects already dont project shadows in like standard fantasy

this is super basic stuff

[sturdy current]

The amount of people missing my point is absurd

[split mortar]

Plenty of rogue armours can make someone invisible with stealth, I’m sure dragon magic can do that aswell

[real silo]

Maybe you're missing the point

Have you considered that

[sturdy current]

Invisible, not untraceable

[leaden bridge]

glass doesn't even project shadows if its transparent enough

[sturdy current]

Keyword untraceable.

[trim edge]

draedon doesn't need to be unable to detect it in a million years
he's heard of the aerie for less than a century and might not even have been interested in it until more recently

[high lynx]

Yes it does

[leaden bridge]

standard glass does because like, yeah

[split mortar]

The aerie is actuated and covered in echo paint (or whatever the invisible paint is) and thus completely untracable

[leaden bridge]

but surely there's glass thats thin enough to not

[leaden bridge]

fucked up

[high lynx]

Yeah but now we can burn ants

[leaden bridge]

fun!

[trim edge]

glass shaped so that every single light ray is perpendicular to the glass

[leaden bridge]

possible

[sturdy current]

Impossible, then you would be hiding a giant floating island with no shadows where birds can somehow phase through. Clouds will not be cut off or distorted. There will be no shadow, no air current disturbances (which is the big one) and there would be no display on I forgot the name of the machine irl that can detect somethings presence using sound waves.

[real silo]

This is dumb

The magic we're talking about is fucking hypothetical
Doesn't matter if the actual canon magic makes the aerie "untraceable" or "invisible"
The hypothetical we're talking about makes it so that the magic completely obscures ANY method of detection draedon can or will have in the future or in the past

Why the fuck is that so hard to understand

[leaden bridge]

although refraction matters anyway because glass will just naturally be denser than the air

so itd be very hard to make a glass that doesnt refract at all

[high lynx]

This is funny why can it not be its own dimension

[leaden bridge]

we just think its kinda dumb

[high lynx]

Oh

Huh

[sturdy current]

Because machines exist that can figure out where something is just based off of sound waves.

[leaden bridge]

it makes more sense as like a physical place that exists in the planet

than as like an alternate pocket dimension the dragons can cess

[trim edge]

the magic is probably related to auric souls which draedon had no chance to research

[leaden bridge]

because that gives the dragons like, dimensional powers? and thats weird

[sturdy current]

Maybe

[leaden bridge]

and like hiding an entire place is fantasy magicks 101

laputa does this by fucking moving

[trim edge]

it is not impossible for him to figure it out using only yharon soul fragments he could steal from us

[sturdy current]

He didn't get the chance to study yharon

And I doubt he would steal from us lol

[trim edge]

it helps him in scientific research
why not

[real silo]

It's not a point of "erm ackshually there IS a way to detect it" it's a point of "let's just say the magic hides from every type of detection system and be done"
Doesn't fucking matter what method you can come up with because we're literally talking about hypotheticals

[sturdy current]

Well I haven't seen my chests out of stock recently

[leaden bridge]

he'll just wait for you to get there

he already has a locator chip in your ass you made that shit with exo crystals willingly

[sturdy current]

LMFAO

[high lynx]

I dont think draedon wants to find the dragon aerie, hot take

[tall delta]

Will draedon even be able to watch your fight with yharim

[trim edge]

draedon replaced one of your yharon soul fragments with a fake
when you die to exos or scal it's not a skill issue, it's faulty gear made with fake yharon soul fragments

[sturdy current]

LOL

[trim edge]

(even though you canonically can't die)

[sturdy current]

I don't think so..

[sturdy current]

Probably not, he's interested but he might not care if he cant

[leaden bridge]

he will actually unless yharim goes out of his way to prevent it

[high lynx]

He did create augments for yharims armor

[leaden bridge]

draedon has a camera up our ass all the times and he augmented yharims armor

[sturdy current]

Bla bla bla shu up

[leaden bridge]

he definitely has ways to monitor both of us

[split mortar]

He just throws a drone inside the aerie for the three seconds that it opens up for us

[sturdy current]

LOL

[leaden bridge]

although his inability to locate the aerie definitely means that, if yharim's armor has any locators, they don't work in the aerie

but he can just send a drone

[trim edge]

he would have some clues with the location where tracking yharim stops being possible

[sturdy current]

Maybe the player will have to find a way to get to the aerie and In the process of accessing it draedons survey drones just go in once we do

[high lynx]

Dont yharim amd draedon have a sort of mutual respect

[sturdy current]

Sorta

[leaden bridge]

no

yharim hates draedon

because of the bees

[sturdy current]

Nvm ur right

[split mortar]

I doubt yharim respects the robot who made nuclear bees

[leaden bridge]

because yharim is obsessed with the concept of not forcing things to do anything

despite the child soldier and the genocide

[high lynx]

Ok but he still asked him to make armour for him

[leaden bridge]

because he was fucking dead

[split mortar]

That’s a practical choice not a moral choice

[sturdy current]

Well still, it's still Yharim being ok enough on terms with draedon to ask for favors

[trim edge]

you see
yharim masterfully convinced calamitas to commit war crimes out of her free will
while draedon used technology to enslave a bee
yharim totally did nothing wrong!1!1!

[high lynx]

What about moral, yharim fully realizes that draedon can make things he cant, and the opposite is true

[sturdy current]

It's still a form of mutual respect. He can dislike what he did with the bees. But he still ultimately respects and acknowledges draedon

[sturdy current]

LMFAO

[split mortar]

As long as it’s your choice to burn an orphanage yharim a fine with it

[leaden bridge]

draedon only cared because it meant being able to fucking study auric for once

[high lynx]

He might not even respect him, but anybody has to acknowledge him

[sturdy current]

Because draedon is passive and can't hate. And that's ultimately and automatically a form of mutual respect whether it has a reason or not

[high lynx]

Ok now imagine you know a guy who makes robots

[trim edge]

after we kill yharim, would draedon hunt down yharon when he rebirths to study his soul

[high lynx]

And now imagine literally saying he could probably mow down the world

[sturdy current]

Isn't auric ore already in the world

[high lynx]

We have his soul and draedon knows

[sturdy current]

Or is that not canon

[leaden bridge]

yharon won't rebirth in a decade, he'll also know to stay clear of draedon probably

[trim edge]

fragments of his soul
the whole soul is obviously more powerful

[sturdy current]

Yeah

[leaden bridge]

and even then draedon wouldnt really hunt him down

hed just be ayyyy can we know more about you now haha

[high lynx]

Well i thought they were only weak because we aren’t attuned to it

[trim edge]

ok but would draedon know how to enter the aerie when we fight yharim
since we go to the aerie and draedon is always tracking us

[leaden bridge]

we think its dumb how that plays out ing ame,.,. yharim spends all that time going haha killin dragons is BAD, because GODS andt hen you kill a dragon and you dont become a god and you dont know why

[high lynx]

Does he remember things? Because the way he instantly became loyal to yharim when they got dunked tells me no

[leaden bridge]

its very sad

he does

thats how yharim knows literally anything

[trim edge]

how did he tell yharim his story then

[leaden bridge]

yharon told him

[high lynx]

Oh i forgot about that my bad

[leaden bridge]

he became loyal to yharim because yharim was dying right alongside hima t the moment

[sturdy current]

Yes, close stalking of the player

Once the player enters he'll figure out

[high lynx]

Also can you really kill the dragon of rebirth

[leaden bridge]

yes just absorb his soul

how? we will never know

[tall delta]

something something your character are clueless and would evaporate the last bosses iirc

[trim edge]

yharon returned as an egg on the aerie before he met yharim
does he respawn on the aerie every time or

[sturdy current]

He stalks the player constantly. So even if he never finds a way (highly unlikely because he watches us 24/7) then he can follow us into the aerie once we get in to challenge yharim

[sturdy current]

Yharon canonically respawning is funny ngl lmfao

[leaden bridge]

we dont care about your excuses,. this information has to be conveyed ingame or else its bad,.

,.,..,.,.

overdramatic tone aside yeah its Not Good

we know someone who was actually confused by it and thought you became a god after killin yharon

because like the game

doesnt tell you any of the information needed

[rotund shore]

The game not explaining key lore bits is unironically my biggest issue with the whole mod

more then any gameplay thing

[trim edge]

ok so

• yharon's egg respawns on the aerie
• we enter the aerie to kill yharim
• draedon tracks us and learns how to enter the aerie
• draedon camps the aerie to steal yharon's egg for research

[sturdy current]

SAME

[real silo]

unfinished mod

[rotund shore]

Im aware, and they are working on it, but in its current state its not great

[leaden bridge]

alt we're going to

[sturdy current]

THE MODS LACK OF COMPETENCE WHEN IT COMES TO LORE IS SO FRUSTRATING

[rotund shore]

like, we just got draetalk which is nice

[real silo]

going where ender

going where

[leaden bridge]

Hell

[high lynx]

Well they can just read the draedon inquiry where he says you aren’t attuned to the soul

[real silo]

say hello to my buddy bob

[high lynx]

Also what if most people who killed dragons dont become gods

[leaden bridge]

love to get an answer only 1-2 bosses later that still doesn't really clue you in what happened!

[real silo]

dragon slayers definitely existed before the deific era

they just didn't ascend to godhood or smth

[rotund shore]

Was xeroc the guy to create the ritual? hes the first to absorb a soul so I assume so

[real silo]

meaning the dragons they kill get revived eventually but

[real silo]

I don't remember where I read it but xeroc translated some old stone tablet or smth

might be a mango stream

[high lynx]

Well xerok was the first and he was like a monk or something and might have been very similar to the zeratros in personality or something and thats the only reason he could absorb

[rotund shore]

that sounds about right

[high lynx]

Highly unlikely though

[real silo]

Well how would the other gods ascend then

Slime god and gluttony dragon are clearly not similar

Yet he ascended anyways

[sturdy current]

Xeroc is a weakling I could solo him with a copper short sword

[high lynx]

Dragons had titles right

[high lynx]

But arent they?

[leaden bridge]

pocoyo solos calamity as a whole

[real silo]

I meant not the exact same

[high lynx]

They absorb everything they can, amassing overtime

[sturdy current]

I haven't seen Pocoyo since I was a little boy: (

[high lynx]

I see

[real silo]

But yes if you needed to be exactly the same as your dragon to ascend then gods would have the same domains every single time

[high lynx]

But who says silva didnt kill some nature dragon

[real silo]

there isn't a nature dragon

Not that we know of

[sturdy current]

Silva wouldn't kill

Maybe her champion, but Silva herself I don't know

[high lynx]

How do you think she became a god

Oh

[sturdy current]

Silva seems to be somewhat of a pacifist or smth

[real silo]

Dragon of life is confirmed to exist and silva is the goddess of life

[high lynx]

How many dragons are there in totwl

[real silo]

A lot

[leaden bridge]

90% chance that silva and xeroc didnt actually kill their respective dragons and the auric souls were givenwillingly and thats why their ascension copied their domains perfectly and also why they didnt change forms wildly

[real silo]

No concrete numbers

[high lynx]

And how many dragons are confirmed

[real silo]

a few

[tall delta]

tbh

[sturdy current]

What soul did Xeroc absorb or supposedly absorb

[tall delta]

It was probably the terminus

[leaden bridge]

primordial light zzz

[tall delta]

what else could It be

[leaden bridge]

wtf u mean

ah

[high lynx]

Well no, isnt it fairly clearly states that the dragons hated xeroc after he lied and took zeratros’ life?

[leaden bridge]

the funny how to become God tablet

yeah probably we knows

[real silo]

Vetrasyl (storms), zeratros (light), yharon (rebirth), death, life, flame, water(?) and gluttony dragons

[leaden bridge]

nobody catually knows what happened

[high lynx]

Zeratros the dragon king

[leaden bridge]

the dragons hate xeroc because they believe they kileld zeratros

[sturdy current]

So how tf was Yharim supposed to become god king?

[leaden bridge]

but like they dont actually know

[high lynx]

So we only know 8 dragons

[leaden bridge]

xeroc wa smissing and rebirth is the second srongest domain

so like

z

[high lynx]

No clue

[leaden bridge]

hey who the fuck did otonilou absobrd then

[high lynx]

I dont think he wants to become a literal god

[high lynx]

Idk who that

[leaden bridge]

this is why amidias lbestiary entry should be rewritten

[sturdy current]

Because yharon supposedly is the 2nd strongest dragon. Was Yharim supposed to surpass Xeroc as god king or wtv

[real silo]

Otonilou absorbed vetrasyl

tyrian's dragon is still unknown

[leaden bridge]

to NOT mention otonilou or the other guy or the fact that amidias is the whatever the fuck monarch int he democratic monarchy of the sea empire of underseas ilmeris the fourth

unimportant info

grrr

[high lynx]

Well god king is the same thing as saying emperor, so i think he doesnt care about actually becoming a god, just overthrowing them

[real silo]

unfinished mod

[tall delta]

true....

[leaden bridge]

you can let the player know about the gods through the funny statues or whatever

[tall delta]

i wasnt meant to reply to that

[real silo]

god king in that context means king of the gods not whatever WH40K had

[leaden bridge]

but like the player has no use of the knowledge that ilmerian was a democratic monarchy

you dont have to tell them that

[high lynx]

I also dont know these gods we are asking about so dont ask me

[high lynx]

So does yharim want to become the best god by absorbing the best auric soul, or does he want to become the strongest god in general

[real silo]

god king means ruler of the gods

[leaden bridge]

he wants neither

thats what the gods wanted for him

[real silo]

rulers don't have to be the strongest

[cosmic zenith]

If you needed to be exactly the same as your Dragon, there'd be considerably less Gods at this point

[sturdy current]

Yes they do

[real silo]

also yes he never wanted that

[leaden bridge]

love the implication that there would be gods confirming that silva and xeroc were the same

[high lynx]

How many gods are there, enough to need to make feasibly more?

[leaden bridge]

see this shit is easy

[real silo]

xeroc was the strongest but he clearly didn't give a shit about leading the gods as their king

[cosmic zenith]

(Generalization, biased source)

[real silo]

So the next best thing the gods had was brainwashing a dude (yharim) into becoming someone to fulfill that role

[leaden bridge]

we dont even know what xeroc hsa been doing for the past hundred years

[cosmic zenith]

Wdym make feasibly more?
If humans needed to match their Dragons perfectly, the rate at which Gods emerge would be significantly slower

[high lynx]

So we might be implying there are just as many gods as dragons or about as many

[leaden bridge]

useless guy doing NOTH

[sturdy current]

Sleeping, eating, chilling, watching tv

[leaden bridge]

every dragon but yharon eventually died

[real silo]

xeroc went to the gym for 8 centuries

[high lynx]

Yes but you’re saying there are more than that

[leaden bridge]

so wed assume theres an N-1 number of gods right now

[sturdy current]

If the gods are corrupt wouldn't they just wanna argue and fight over who gets to rule

[real silo]

we don't know which gods tried to force yharim

[high lynx]

I get it now, the people do not need to be like the dragons they kill to absorb the souls, my bad, i was just trying to come up woth reasons why we cant absorb yharons

[leaden bridge]

wdk they thought yharim would be fucking awesome or something

[cosmic zenith]

Absorbing the Dragon King doesn't inherently make you a God-King

[high lynx]

Exactly, if you can overthrow someone you can become king

[sturdy current]

He said he was supposed to rule as god king.

[cosmic zenith]

To you
It's not like we'll leave things at that and never elaborate on Otonilou or her Dragon

[leaden bridge]

we cant absorb yharon cuz we dont know how
but we also dont know, solely through in game info, that we need to know something specific to do it
Its dumb and confusing

[sturdy current]

Then he decided against his destiny and was thrown in the lava with the egg for defying.

[high lynx]

Oh and just confirmation, we’re not talking emperor type god king, just king of the gods?

[high lynx]

Oh now i know what were talking about

[sturdy current]

Why would we? I doubt the player has any objective to become a god, an Neko is right we don't know how. Probably a ritual or wtv

[real silo]

yes

[leaden bridge]

the player has no objective but what is built up ingame through developer decisions its not really a very set in stone thing

eitherway yes there's a ritual

[cosmic zenith]

By absorbing Yharon's soul

[leaden bridge]

but like you dont knot there is if you haven't been in this channel

[high lynx]

I thought people were the ones who threw him in lava

[leaden bridge]

and all the shit yharim tells you would lead you to believe killing yharon would make you a god

[sturdy current]

Not really, he just states what yharon is and expresses sorrow for yharons farewell

[high lynx]

Im just saying, gods are the highest form of being in the universe right?

[leaden bridge]

we're not talking about yharon's lore item

[sturdy current]

Killing isn't the same as absorbing

[leaden bridge]

Yharim spends all the game up until that point talking about gods, how gods killed dragons, and how they ascened through killing dragons

[tall delta]

If the auric soul ritual becomes public info will the devs be obligated to make It real in the mod

[leaden bridge]

you never get told that the process of becoming a god involves something outside the act of killing the god

[tall delta]

since well you would've know how to do the ritual now lo

[high lynx]

So why couldn’t god king essentially be the emperor of the universe? Even if it means being a god, or even if it means being something else

[leaden bridge]

its very easy for a new player tua ssume killin yharon would make them a god, and it is confusing when it doesn't happen because a player has no clue what would be missing

[high lynx]

Just something to chew on

[sturdy current]

So that means Yharim would (suggestively) surpass Xeroc as god king.

[real silo]

gods aren't the highest powers of the universe

They're just Strong People

[high lynx]

Well he might become immortal

[cosmic zenith]

What gives you the impression Xeroc is a God-King?

[high lynx]

They think because he absorbed the dragon king’s auric soul

[sturdy current]

Yeah, the highest power is me because I can download the dragon lens mod and turn on invulnerable mod

[high lynx]

So what is

[real silo]

Nothing we know of

[proper dagger]

dragon

ye

[sturdy current]

U misunderstood me, Im saying Yharim would surpass Xeroc once he becomes god king

[high lynx]

Great so the strongest we know of right now is gods

[tall delta]

nope probably

[mighty zenith]

a random alien was stronger than everything on the planet

[tall delta]

he would have the potential i guess

[mighty zenith]

there could be things 3x xeroc's strength out there

[high lynx]

What alien

[mighty zenith]

we just

dont know

[high lynx]

I know

[real silo]

Moon lord

[high lynx]

But that means the strongest thing we know is gods

[cosmic zenith]

(Doesn't Yharim mention Xeroc absorbed Zeratros' soul in Requiem)

[leaden bridge]

yeah but like

[sturdy current]

Id still win because I'm the terrarian. It doesn't matter how many times I die. Boss has to win infinitely, I just need to win once

[leaden bridge]

you dont get the specifics on what that means

[high lynx]

Oh yeah i thought he meant astral infection

[leaden bridge]

and you're given yharon soul fragments

[tall delta]

but honestly terrarian becoming a god with yharon soul would give better results since your thing is getting strong really fast

[leaden bridge]

so like

its not really strange that people would be confused (specially with how ascension isn't consistent in whether you like, visibly change or not)

we know someone who was

[high lynx]

I dont think respawning is cannon

[sturdy current]

Nah, then Yharim wouldn't really stand a chance against the player

[sturdy current]

Ik

[cosmic zenith]

Fair enough

[sturdy current]

It isn't canon but u get what I mean

[real silo]

Yes but gods are limited to our planet

[cosmic zenith]

Oh
Possibly? It's unclear

[high lynx]

Oh are they really

[real silo]

So no they aren't the strongest in the universe, but they are the strongest in the world

[high lynx]

Where is xeroc tho

Is he still on terraria

[leaden bridge]

sleeping doing nothing to prevent genocide twice

[sturdy current]

God king sounds like the highest role. And usually it's the strongest that rule based off of actual history and usually fiction too

[cosmic zenith]

Not necessarily

[mighty zenith]

you cant proclaim yourself emperor of the universe when you havent left a single planet

[real silo]

Yeah

[real silo]

Somewhere on the planrt

[high lynx]

But doesnt he talk to you in boss rush

[sturdy current]

Also side note appreciate how u interact with the community instead of just watching lol, not alot of devs do that

[high lynx]

Thank you lore master, your word is much more important

[leaden bridge]

yeah they wake up to have some fun or something

[sturdy current]

LMFAO

[leaden bridge]

still just a sleepy dude (who let genocide happen twice)

[sturdy current]

Maybe Xeroc doesn't care cuz nothing can touch him

[high lynx]

I thought he was looking for somebody to do something for him

[mighty zenith]

"STFU Im

Im listening to Trial of the Insane (Boss Rush tier 4 theme)"

[sturdy current]

LOL

[cosmic zenith]

Thanks!
Well, I used to be one of you guys too
And it's fun interacting with you all

[leaden bridge]

peoplw ill bring out that this is the theological discussion of the morality of God but xeroc is both not omnipotent nor a creator deity so arguments about god being good because of allowing free will don't really apply

[cosmic zenith]

No problem!

[leaden bridge]

they're just a dude who let genocide happen twice depite having the power to at least somewhat diminish the problem

[sturdy current]

Ur right I doubt there's an all powerful god in calamity. It seems to go more off of mythology

[high lynx]

Also what could xeroc ever need the terrarian for

[sturdy current]

It's simple he doesnt need the player

[high lynx]

Yes but he was considering it

[leaden bridge]

now, it's going to be revealed in whatever 2026's update is that xeroc is actually holding off noxus from nuking the planet ever since they ascended, do not let this false narrative fool you: it is false, xeroc is still complicit in genocide and was merely sleeping

[high lynx]

As seen from the boss rush last few lines

[humble folio]

Maybe xeroc is trying to see if the players worthy of ascending to godhood/taking his place?

[leaden bridge]

xeroc wants you to help them kill noxus

its that shrimple

[high lynx]

Oh i forgot noxus

[sturdy current]

Doubt it. They already failed with yharim

[high lynx]

My knowledge of the people in this mod is so surface level

[sturdy current]

Doubt they would want another Yharim incident happening

[humble folio]

Was it explicitly xeroc trying to do that?

[split mortar]

A retry with making a god king like yharim was meant to be

[leaden bridge]

xeroc didnt do the yharim thing

[high lynx]

Well it might be, let me go find the lines one sec

[humble folio]

I’m pretty sure it was

Xerox ascended and everyone went bonkers and everyone who did go bonkers told yharim to become god king

[split mortar]

Don’t think we know any explicit gods, could be all including xeroc or it could have been slime god and one other

[humble folio]

For some reason

[sturdy current]

No but that doesn't mean God's can't actively observe others and notice their mistakes. Yharim rejected the offer and instead began killing gods instead of becoming one. Xeroc probably wouldn't want someone who potentially has higher potential than Yharim running around killing more

[humble folio]

That is true

Plus we don’t know for sure, the lack of specifics could imply xeroc was part of it, though I somewhat doubt it for some reason

Couldn’t explain why logically

[high lynx]

So he was considering something

[swift wigeon]

Would anyone here consider themselves an expert in regards to Calamity lore?

[leaden bridge]

whenever you kill yharim he will tell you Youre strong now! our proposal is that you go fight noxus for 10 minutes while we charge up the beam of death that murders him, thank you

sadly, us

[high lynx]

Also i guess the line “this worlds mightiest hero” made me think he was worldwide

[sturdy current]

Lol

[high lynx]

No im intermediate

[humble folio]

Why can’t xeroc do it himself

[sturdy current]

Fair point

[mighty zenith]

depends on what you need

[leaden bridge]

he cant charge up the kill noxus beam if noxus is trying to kill him

you're distraction

[humble folio]

Ahhh

I’m the meat shield

[high lynx]

Like goku

[sturdy current]

Im a nerd on Yharim. Anything else regarding anything else don't ask me. Because I'm a newborn baby in everything else

[high lynx]

When he grabs that saiyan

[mighty zenith]

put some respect on raditz's name

[cosmic zenith]

I know a good deal about Calamity lore

[sturdy current]

LMFAOAO

[split mortar]

Maybe the proposal is actually to fight noxus with him? Pretty sure noxus is more destructive so another part could help let the world not be as destroyed as if it was only xeroc

[mighty zenith]

because nobody else wants to

[swift wigeon]

I just finished a 15,000 word document that compiles all of Calamities lore into a story format, because I feel that the lore document pinned in this channel does a very poor job at illustrating the order and connectivity of the events. I'm looking for someone to fact check it

[leaden bridge]

it's so tragic we know this mod's plot as much as we do, how did we ever get encyclopedic knowledge on the mana balls, why di d that happen

[humble folio]

What makes xeroc think I’d accept being a meat shield for some god who’s the reason I’ve had to listen to some emo dude bitch about his life for my entire journey

[leaden bridge]

get a lore writer to do that

(the lore writer in the room with us right now:

[sturdy current]

LMFAOOAOAOAOAO

[high lynx]

It is a proposal

[tall delta]

ok so the proposal is for you to kill noxus because xeroc gets weaker in distortion or something, and the reason he didnt told you what the proprosal was because he knew that you would go after noxus recklessly and unprepared with a risk of dying

[leaden bridge]

xeroc will let you scavenge whatever the fuck falls out of noxus for gear

thats the good part

[high lynx]

No i think its because you’re underwhelming

[sturdy current]

Y'all I want you to know we probably won't do anything regarding Xeroc. Yharim is probably where it ends

[humble folio]

It’s confirmed xeroc and noxus are bosses to come tho

Correct if I’m wrong

[leaden bridge]

unless fabsol becomes insane and decides he doesn't want patreon money anymore this mod will live until xeroc is added

they're not ifs

[high lynx]

I think xeroc was always a post game super boss?

[split mortar]

We then immediately try stabbing the sun with the new Satan weapons to see if we can fight xeroc

[humble folio]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

The issue is that we lack a lot of concrete dates and confirmed series of events

[leaden bridge]

yeah annd theyll humor you and then giv eyou funny shit

[split mortar]

A second rock from the aerie

[mighty zenith]

so putting together a good timeline at this point is hard and involves a ton of speculation

[humble folio]

Satan weapons Tf?

[sturdy current]

Well, I had fun guys but I won't stay here all day on discord

[sturdy current]

LMAO

[high lynx]

I agree im gonna make breakfast

Have good discussion without me

[sturdy current]

Neko, I also apologize you are not so stupid. Maybe only a little stupid (joke). Thanks for the exchange of ideals

[split mortar]

I doubt whoever is the boss for devourer is has any good morality

[humble folio]

Noxus I’m pretty sure

[split mortar]

Yeah

[humble folio]

Idk if that’s confirmed but iirc it was somewhere

[split mortar]

It’s heavily implied I’m pretty sure

[leaden bridge]

we're actually very smart it's just we don't use our neurons when talking about calamity beacuse they're wasted if we do

[swift wigeon]

I didn't include a lot of dates. It is more of a timeline, with lore items explaining stuff in the order that it is relevant/happened. We know the order that things happened before, during, and after The Crusade. You just have to refer to the dozens of different sources (Lore items, bestiary entries, item descriptions, NPC dialogue, codebreaker dialogue, etc)

[leaden bridge]

yeah

[swift wigeon]

Should I just link the document? Is it even allowed?

[humble folio]

Sure

I think it’s fine

[mighty zenith]

should be fine yeah

[humble folio]

I’m more curious what noxus deal is now

[split mortar]

I don’t see why not

[mighty zenith]

i'll take a look at it

[humble folio]

He isn’t just spreading astral infection everywhere he goes now

[split mortar]

We know like nothing, new lore doesn’t even name drop yet them I think

[humble folio]

Perhaps there could still be a connection to it
Dying stars being able to be infected from the distortion

And yeah no NameDrop

[leaden bridge]

noooo a pdf bro ditn use google dosc
failure!

[swift wigeon]

If you are particularly stingey about it being a PDF I can link you the original document, I just prefer the PDF format

[split mortar]

Just some mysterious being who is the boss of the devourer, threatens all of terraria and made the ceaseless void portal

[humble folio]

The dying stars are dying/being consumed with darkness cuz of noxus tryna consume more mass and energy

[leaden bridge]

we just think making us download a file is a crime against humanity and everything should be hyper centralized on google docs, which will obviously never die because google never kills its services

[humble folio]

Tbf with downloads

[swift wigeon]

Ok but like a PDF is just easier on the eyes of read. Again, if you want the doc I can link it to you

[humble folio]

What’s stopping someone from just renaming a 24 yottabye zip bomb to “cal lore” or some shit

[leaden bridge]

wdk if a pdf is easier on the eyes to read since you can like change that

we dont think you can upload a 24 yottabyte zip bomb to discord

[sturdy current]

Viewed it briefly, fine job

[leaden bridge]

but it doesnt matter too much dw

[split mortar]

I thought stars either shrank and became falling stars or bloated and infected, didn’t know noxus was the cause of them bloating

[humble folio]

I’m not saying he is

[split mortar]

Oh

[humble folio]

That’s just a theory I thought

[sturdy current]

I use a spare computer that is weak and has nothing to lose on it

[humble folio]

In old lore noxus spread the astral infection by running around the universe

[sturdy current]

But u have a great point

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[sturdy current]

LOL

[swift wigeon]

All we know is that the dying stars are usually consumed by one of the many Astrum Deus that are out there, but that isn't always the case as we see with the Astral Infection overtaking one of them

[humble folio]

Yea

Perhaps these dying stars that are bloating are being bloated by noxus from within the distortion

[split mortar]

And then they drop the star on the nearby planet and guard it

[humble folio]

Essentially noxus is killing stars and tryna create astral infection

[swift wigeon]

The juevenile Astrum Deus's can be overtaken by their own food, which is kinda sad

Like imagine if you got possessed by a slice of pizza or something

[humble folio]

Well not trying to create astral infection but it’s killing stars and the remnant is festering into this diseased other worldly landscape

[split mortar]

It is rotten and diseased, eating a slice of pizza with coronavirus wont always be the best idea

[humble folio]

Noxus is basically just juicing a star of its energy and leaving its corpse

[swift wigeon]

Because of this we know that the Astral Infection is sentient, it purposefully spreads itself to other planets via the use of organisms that it takes control of and then uses said organism to guard the crater so that it can spread freely

[swift wigeon]

But that's their normal diet. They eat collapsed stars, the Astral Infection is just the byproduct of those stars isn't it?

[cosmic zenith]

I'll be writing down the corrections to this
Thank you for your efforts, this seems really cool!

[humble folio]

I thought astrum drugs prevents the spread of the infection by eating it

[swift wigeon]

Alright, thanks.

[humble folio]

It specifically targets the infection

And only infected stars

[swift wigeon]

Inadvertantly. I doubt that they do it to be a good samaritan. That's how they get their energy

[humble folio]

Yeah obv not

[split mortar]

What is the reason for deus to have the celestial fragments? Built up celestial magic from eaten stars?

[leaden bridge]

the most tragic part of deus is that the infection made him the most bland bossfight ever

[swift wigeon]

There aren't infected stars, the Astral Infection is the byproduct of ANY star collapsing I believe

[humble folio]

If there is a reason then Probably

[swift wigeon]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what Draedon said. Let me check

[humble folio]

Then again we don’t even know wtf the pillars themselves are made of

Or how

[leaden bridge]

nearly the worst worm because of this

a real tragedy

[warm gull]

blurg

[leaden bridge]

blurg

[swift wigeon]

"Stars that grow too large begin to collapse, degenerating and forming clots of Astral Infection. Throughout the cosmos at large, this is a rare occurance, as Astrum Deus intermittently devours large stars for sustenance." So all stars can form the Astral infection if they get too large, it just doesn't happen often because Astrum Deus eats big stars

[split mortar]

So deus normally eats big stars but not infected stars?

[humble folio]

I think it just eats any big stars

The way that’s phrased

[swift wigeon]

Again, there aren't "infected" stars. The astral infection is a star that got too big and decayed

They eat big stars, some of them have decayed, so Deus gets infected and used to spread the infection further

[split mortar]

Yeah

[humble folio]

So in this universe a star turns into the astral infection

I see

[swift wigeon]

Yes

Amd Astrum Deus happened to eat it

[humble folio]

That’s just the normal cycle of stars in cal

Sh

Ah

[split mortar]

What’s up with the fallen stars then?

[swift wigeon]

Since it was an Adolescent, it couldn't resist

[leaden bridge]

mana balls when they grow too large

so sad

[swift wigeon]

Condensed mana

[leaden bridge]

fallen stars are just smaller stars

stars whent heyre samll and silly

and they fall

[swift wigeon]

Stars are made of mana

[leaden bridge]

mana balls,. hatred

[swift wigeon]

In theory, if the Terrarian took a bite out of the sun, they would get a giant mana upgrade

[split mortar]

That’s primordial light not stars

[swift wigeon]

And probably explode from the overwhelming energy

[swift wigeon]

Stars are mana though

[split mortar]

The sun and stars are made of different stuff

[cosmic zenith]

• Cthulhu is not a name for Moon Lord, Cthulhu is just a standard namesake for monstrous beasts such as the Eye and the Brain;
• Moon Lord descended upon Terraria in the year 1037;
• The Godseeker Knights were kinda like elite forces of his army, not the army itself;
• The destruction of Azafure took place before the incineration of Ilmeris, and it was the showcase of Calamitas' power, after which she was recruited;

That's it I think, I really like the format and especially the boss titles!

[cosmic zenith]

^ (in Calamity)

[split mortar]

Yeah

Stars are just space magic stuff and the sun is a giant ball of primordial light which a small amount can make empress do 40K damage

[swift wigeon]

Alright, thanks for the feedback. I'll screenshot this and make revisions later. Also, the boss titles were really fun to make. Infernum already gives bosses titles, but I didn't like most of them so I actually ended up making a lot of them up lol

[split mortar]

Isn’t moonlord fovos in calamity or was that changed

[rotund shore]

both are acceptable names for the same creature

[split mortar]

Ok

[cosmic zenith]

You're welcome!

[swift wigeon]

I imagine that the name "The Moon Lord" was only given to it after it was sealed behind the moon, but that's just speculation

[cosmic zenith]

And yes, Fovos is the original given name to Moon Lord, which was gradually replaced by "Moon Lord" after the creature's lunar imprisonment

[swift wigeon]

I'll replace all instances of Cthulhu with Fovos in the document, except for in boss titles ofc

So the purge of the Dragons took place over the course of 700 years?

Those guys must be the champions of hide and seek

[split mortar]

The aerie(their home I think) not even draedon can find it so yeah they are

Yharim must hate playing hide and seek with yharon if they ever did

[swift wigeon]

It was less their home and more a sacred grounds where Dragons were layed to rest and eventually be rebirthed by Yharon

[split mortar]

So it’s a cemetery

[swift wigeon]

Yharim can access the Dragon Aerie. That's where he is now. That's where we will fight him

He was chilling up there watching everything with Yharon

[open ruin]

Lore chat save me

[mighty zenith]

no

[open ruin]

NOO

[austere spindle]

man the ceaseless void and providence lore really makes it sound like we’re just cleaning up after yharim’s mistakes

i know there’s more to it but c’mon dude did you really just walk out to buy cigs

[leaden bridge]

no yeah thats eaxtcly what youre doing actually

thats exactly the actions that happen in the story here

you're the cleanup

[austere spindle]

all this? just to suffer

[split mortar]

So we’re an underpaid janitor

[leaden bridge]

Yes

[urban hedge]

Polterghast, too

[warm gull]

we get paid in becoming the second strongest being in the world

[sturdy current]

It would make sense if they wrote Yharim to have some form of apology to the player as he dies after the final boss fight

[mighty zenith]

Why would he give us an apology?

To him, this was all helping us reach him

[frozen zodiac]

"and i don't regret a SECOND of it."

[spring helm]

If Yharim was given a second chance to change his life, he’d do almost the exact same thing

He’d just treat his soldiers better so that they don’t leave him again

[cosmic zenith]

Not necessarily
All that is known is only Yharon was alive by the late 1700s

[split mortar]

I wonder how long the dragon age lasted

[spring helm]

Long

[split mortar]

Makes sense

[cosmic zenith]

Dragons were there since before the dawn of mankind

So there's no way to tell

[split mortar]

Ah so very long

[cosmic zenith]

The absolute lowest estimate is 2000 years

A millenium before Azafure's founding

[split mortar]

That’s definitely long as hell

[spare pier]

Wasn't Azafure founded 2000 years ago?

Since iirc the calendar starts exactly with its foundation

[cosmic zenith]

This is about how long the Draconic Era lasted

And it ended in 1037

[spring helm]

By the time humans started writing things down the dragons being revived on the Aerie was well known

[spare pier]

Yeah, but 2000 years isn't a millenium before Azafure's founding

It's exactly its founding

[cosmic zenith]

;-;

Rebecca

[split mortar]

Dragons died centuries ago and as afire died like a decade ago, if it’s a few centuries above 2K years then I can see it being 1000 years before azafure, but these are the minimum for how long and is probably much longer

[cosmic zenith]

The Draconic Era ended in 1037 (after Azafure)
So going back 2000 years leads you to ~1000 years before Azafure

[spare pier]

So the date you're saying is

[split mortar]

So not even centuries, just decades

[spare pier]

1000 BA

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[split mortar]

At least

[spare pier]

Ok that makes sense

[cosmic zenith]

That's the most recent the Draconic Era could've started

Obviously, I think it's much older than that

[split mortar]

And is probably much older

[spare pier]

I think the Draconic Era goes back to 12k years tbh

This is my headcanon age

[cosmic zenith]

I haven't thought much about the time scale
But I think that's a good starting point for Dragon "society"

[wheat walrus]

This badass cat 12k years ago

[cosmic zenith]

While Dragons themselves could be older

[spare pier]

Yeah, 12k years is where I'd say Dragons became the dominant species

[cosmic zenith]

It's a weird thing to balance

[split mortar]

Doesn’t matter how long as long as it’s long, doesn’t change anything if it’s millions of years or a few decades over 2000 years

[cosmic zenith]

Because the World Soul shattering being a recent event would be very awkward

[spare pier]

Yeah, but I still like thinking about time frames

[split mortar]

Fair

[cosmic zenith]

But also you don't want Dragons to be sitting around doing jackshit for millions of years

[wheat walrus]

Anyways 12k years ago is quite specific

Is there a reason for that

[cosmic zenith]

It'd get boring for an intelligent species

[split mortar]

Yeah fair

[spare pier]

I was the one who proposed the 800 year period between the Draconic Era and the start of the game

[split mortar]

I can see that

[cosmic zenith]

I see
It's a great period

[spare pier]

Because that's the timeframe between the Void Century and modern One Piece

[split mortar]

Oh

[wheat walrus]

[spare pier]

Yes, I ripped it from FF14

[wheat walrus]

Alright

Reb likes taking timeframes

[spare pier]

Yes!

[spring helm]

🤯

[wheat walrus]

Plumg

[spring helm]

I can’t take it anymore, I’m spoiling what the treasure in ||Laugh Tale|| is

[spare pier]

You should spoil that name first and foremost

[split mortar]

The friends we made along the way

[cosmic zenith]

Speaking of anime timeframes
It's kinda funny how Demon Slayer uses real life periods in Japanese history

[wheat walrus]

WHAT THEFUCK

My cat Betty

[spring helm]

My mistake original gangster

[spare pier]

🤝

[spring helm]

Your cat will now live in my iCloud forever

[wheat walrus]

No

She's right here at my house

[spring helm]

Alright that’s it

I’m turning your cat into calamitas on MSPaint

[spare pier]

Also based off the conversation me and Stip are having in CST, ngl

[wheat walrus]

Nooo

I already did that a year ago

[spare pier]

Actually I won't say this here

[spring helm]

FUCK

[spring helm]

How dare you reb

I wanna know

[ionic harness]

Braedo rebrand

Aido is no more

[wheat walrus]

The rebrand happened

[ionic harness]

New account

New me

But meh I’ll still be Aido

[wheat walrus]

Oh wait this is a new account?

Why

[ionic harness]

Yeah lol

Long story short

Someone lied to me

And I didn’t feel comfortable using my old account anymore

Distancing myself from some shit

[wheat walrus]

Alright fair

[spring helm]

aido lore

[ionic harness]

Aido lore goes hard

[spring helm]

#calamity-update-talk message

[random mulch]

i have a horrific idea

[spring helm]

do it

[hoary berry]

i like the idea that this terrarian canonically beat the exo mechs without any armour or accessories

[spring helm]

built different

newgame+
Bring the codebreaker from a completed playthrough into a new world and challenge the exomechs first

"Hello, is this Draedon?"
"Who are you? How did you get this number, and is that my codebreaker?"
"Let me fight your exo mechs."
"I haven't even finished designing them, why do you know that?"

[warm gull]

yharim

[split mortar]

Yeah he do love his bees

[spring helm]

lmao

[hoary berry]

skeletron primer

[spring helm]

oh that's his torso

[urban hedge]

Not lore accurate, Draedon doesn't call it the codebreaker smh my head... unless...?

[spring helm]

lore innacurate meme in the lore discussion channel

[random mulch]

also i think i did a fantastic job on draedon's face

[hoary berry]

the sheer exasperation conveyed by that gaze is amazing

[scenic olive]

Neo Skeletron

[rotund shore]

for a character I typically perceive as having minimal visual emotion, man its good

[spring helm]

fantastic job orios, but i seriously thought his spine was his neck for a minute

[mighty zenith]

i will always think of his chin as alive

it looks like a kirby enemy

[split mortar]

I wonder how draedon would view some other things we may have named

[rotund shore]

tbh we don't know alot of what we named, besides mechs

and it doesn't quite sound like he enjoys those names

[random mulch]

and his beloathed "miracle matter"

[mighty zenith]

i wonder how the terrarian knows aureus' name

do you think they like

read a label from its parts

[random mulch]

guessed and got it right

[mighty zenith]

and just added astrum to it cause space

[split mortar]

The infection didn’t destroy a visible label

[spring helm]

"This unit is designated Aureus. It is used for reconnaissance. I outfitted the one you fought with armour in an attempt to delay the inf—"
"Astrum Aureus."
"I'm hanging up."

[split mortar]

Now I wonder what we would have named Thanatos and arti n apolo

[random mulch]

(distant keyboard smashing sounds)

[hoary berry]

destroyer prime

[random mulch]

orange retinazor and mouthless spazmatism

[split mortar]

Draedon would absolutely despise those, I approve

[random mulch]

Select Orange retinazor and mouthless spazmatism dialogue option
Draedon immediately hangs up
Distant screaming can be heard

[mighty zenith]

exo destroyer

exo spazmatism

exo retinazer

[random mulch]

skeletrexo, destroyexo , spazmexo and retinexo

[mighty zenith]

yes

[split mortar]

Yharim tolerates our names but draedon is like one more name from sending all of pre hardmode as Exo bosses at us suddenly

[random mulch]

one more stupid name and he starts the plague project back up

[hoary berry]

then we'd just have more stuff to name

[split mortar]

He gives the plague the power to replicate Exo prisms

[hoary berry]

more ammo to use against draedon

[split mortar]

Oh yes

[hoary berry]

fear of our naming prowess completely halts all scientific progress until our lifespan reaches its end

[spring helm]

sees PBG
calls it Queen Plague

[split mortar]

Yes

Draedon perishing at us naming queen slime a weaker title when it’s stronger then slime god last time

[random mulch]

he hears us calling auric "gold prime" and he blows a fuse

[split mortar]

Gold 2.0

[random mulch]

golder

[split mortar]

Perennial being chlorophytier

[random mulch]

greenium

[split mortar]

Chlorophytiest (uelibloom)

[hoary berry]

draedon must hate nightmare fuel as a name

[split mortar]

Oh yeah

Endothermic energy aswell

Since endothermic is absorbing energy from surrounding right?

We calling the removal of energy a energy

[rotund pelican]

What's the lore behind wulfrum robots being able to be poisoned

[split mortar]

The poisons conductive

[rotund pelican]

Fair enough

[jaunty wraith]

Draedon hearing we named "XF-09 Ares" Skeletron Prime Prime

[rotund shore]

who is being quoted in this tooltip??

was it john wulfrum himself?

[mighty zenith]

me

i got a sick eyepatch though

[rotund shore]

I might just headcanon this as a terrarian quote

[split mortar]

I’m pretty sure that’s the only logical explanation other then funny joke

What even is wulfrum lore

[rotund shore]

having the terrarian be entirely up for interpretation, + also this one line would feel odd

[rotund shore]

basically just a bunch of robots made to fend off yharims army, incredibly weak, but the metal can be repurposed pretty easily

[split mortar]

We cannonicalt name the mech bosses and miracle matter atleast

The terrarian is like 99% the player 1% bad naming jokes so I can see the screwdriver just being one of the few times the terrarian diverges from the player

[spare pier]

More like made to be really fucking annoying

[rotund shore]

yeah they're more of an inconvenience

their whole goal was to kb stun yharims army ig

[buoyant inlet]

Funny how a wulfrum drone still can kill an average person

[rotund shore]

an amplified wulfrum drone if you have no movement accessories is harder to dodge then exo mechs im convinced

[trail zodiac]

its for me

[leaden bridge]

It's John

[buoyant inlet]

Herald Wolframious

Gerald

Jonathan

[split mortar]

Same

[manic coral]

screaming?

no

the sound of a toaster exploding

[red crater]

1073joobieyebrow2

Fire

[shrewd flame]

is there any lore explaination for the pillars event

[warm gull]

Yes

They're evil and fucked up

that's it

[shrewd flame]

fuck yeah

[eager bluff]

i cooked

(list of azafurian traits that are different from surface dwelling humans)

and reasoning for their existence

[urban hedge]

Idk if it's really darker in the underworld, since it's not like night exists

Well, I think you know what I meant

[eager bluff]

i mean it logically is darker

lava, even though theres a hell of a lot of it, doesnt give off nearly as much light as the sun

[urban hedge]

Well, I know that, I don't literally mean darker

[untold bluff]

i think stip said that the horns are because they use lots of magic

[eager bluff]

theres no concrete reason

hence why i said no obvious reason

[spring helm]

Wouldn’t their skin be lighter if there was less sun

[wheat walrus]

watching skibidi together

[spring helm]

The azafurian that is

[spring helm]

[warm gull]

providence was right

[wheat walrus]

[warm gull]

Most likely xeroc's proposal will be to aid in killing noxus somehow

[untold bluff]

Someone should draw xeroc proposing in front of the player to marry him

[split mortar]

It has to be to do with something around being strong, we aren’t enough pre yharim so the only thing I can think is some kind of damage control or bait for noxus (is more destructive but less focused then Xerocs power I think)

[split mortar]

Oh no

[calm patio]

what.

[wheat walrus]

xerocmaxxed god is marrymaxxing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mewing-mew-cat-mewing-mewing-tutorial-mewing-cat-gif-495067373805540650

[split mortar]

You are proving providence right more and more

[wheat walrus]

providence is a killmaxxer

anyways

enough mold

[warm gull]

please do not add maxx to the end of perfectly serviceable words

[wheat walrus]

gonna okmaxx to that one bro

ok ok

seriously talk about calamity lore

[warm gull]

I'm going to executemaxx you

[split mortar]

It’d be funny

[warm gull]

Well not bait necessarily

More like, a powerful opponent for nocus to focus on so that xeroc can actually kill it

sort of like braelor and statis vs yharim actually

[open ruin]

What's the lore behind moon lord?

[rotund shore]

moonlord (originally known as fovos) attacked Terraria, with the dragons fending it off, sealing it in the moon

[wheat walrus]

nocus to focus

[rotund shore]

this then lead into a shit ton of people absorbing the souls of the dragons, I imagine inpart since they were quite weakened by the fight with fovos

[warm gull]

yes

[split mortar]

Quite similiar to the vanilla kinda weirdly, appears randomly from somewhere, ancient magical race fends it off but is unable to kill it and imprisons it and in the resulting aftermath only 1 of that race is alive

[warm gull]

And then gets foddermaxxed by xeroc

[rotund shore]

I never thought of it that way, huh

[split mortar]

Just that calamities is much more detailed

[warm gull]

Omni look what you've done to me

[wheat walrus]

hahaha

[split mortar]

I’m sure xeroc is strong enough to fight prime fovos and win single-handedly I doubt it would be piss easy

[warm gull]

No I mean xeroc foddermaxxed zeratros

[split mortar]

Ah yeah

Do we know any connection of moonlord to the distortion or noxus?

Or is anything outside of moonlord appearing and getting imprisoned just speculation?

[rotund shore]

We have like no clue where ml is from

[split mortar]

Ah

[rotund shore]

But my god moonlord was strong back in its hay day

[visual kiln]

hiiiiiii

[split mortar]

Yeah, they nearly solo’d a civilisation of basically sentient nukes

[warm gull]

hello

[rotund shore]

Moonlord is apparently about tied in strength with noxus, so hot Damn hes strong

[split mortar]

Hell one is the dragon of primordial light so in a even more literal sense one is a miniature sun then the rest

[split mortar]

If that’s the case, makes me think the distortion just hates the terraria world and likes generating eldritch behemoths just to throw at it

To be fair even as a husk trapped in the moon draedon didn’t even plan about mining the moon while moonlord was there

Despite being much weaker then a single Exo mech by leagues

[rotund shore]

Draedon likely couldn’t be certain of moonlords currently strength, and justifiably wouldn’t take that risk

[warm gull]

No peak fovos was stronger than noxus

[rotund shore]

Since if moonlord was even close to full strength, perhaps recovering over the centuries, then he could cause mass destruction by releasing it

But the terrarian killed ml so now draedon doesn’t need to worry about such things

[cosmic zenith]

Peak Fovos was more battle-ready, at least

You gotta be a jacked warrior to show up one day and beat the shit out of a race of powerful Dragons before being defeated