#lore-discussion

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rotund shore
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the clone is probably like, 8 years old or smth

mighty zenith
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if draedon used calamitas' dna from before she left then mentally, the clone would probably be like

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in her late teens

sturdy current
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i actually really enjoy draedon

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he actually does not give a fuck hes just there to be curious

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so if yharon knows the player is just endlessly growing then hes trying to state throughout the song that yharim needs to get his act together or is it already over for him

mighty zenith
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he's calling yharim out for not doing anything earlier

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he's worried as hell

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that's why he attacks us in the first place

sturdy current
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yharim exposed? those videos on youtube saying that yharim drinks piss and allat

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also on the calamity title screen is that yharim or am i mistaken

mighty zenith
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yeah im pretty sure its meant to be yharim

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just obviously exaggerated in size

sturdy current
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nvm i took a second look it is

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his shoulder pads are there

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ok so i think ur right about the song because it says

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"if they can they will easily butcher you whole"

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and that hes blinded by his depression, whatever that means

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"this is a fight you cannot win" so is yharon trying to say that its too late for yharim to do anything or what

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also

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someone look into that

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dm dokuro was making that before he left

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AND ITS JUST SO WEIRD

mighty zenith
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yeah tyrant is based on some really old concepts

sturdy current
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i wish he stayed and finished it.

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?

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was it ever confirmed if it was canon or not?

mighty zenith
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well

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since it was never even finished

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i dont think it matters

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but now its definitely not canon

sturdy current
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ok last 2 questions, is yharon straight up telling yharim that he cant do anything now and that hes gonna die by the players hand. or is he actively trying to warn him or whatever. huge difference betweening a warning and a death message

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and is yharim completely evil

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because i found all of the whispers from yharim and im reading through them trying to figure out whats going on, its obvious hes trying to manipulate the player into finishing his work but is he still entirely evil or always was

mighty zenith
sturdy current
mighty zenith
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he has some reasoning behind his actions

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he is evil and has done absolutely unredeemable shit

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but i don't think he's completely evil

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honestly i'd say DoG is closer to that than yharim is

sturdy current
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alrighty, thanks for the chat

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really enjoyed it

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ttyl

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cya

cloud ibex
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I’d say for him to count as pure evil he’d have to actively revel in the terrible shit he did

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But he doesn’t

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He sees his actions as morally justified and, while he doesn’t have any issues with most of them I don’t think he really enjoyed it

sturdy current
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i just finished reviewing the whispers and it looks like for some of them he actively regrets doing it, while for others im not too sure considering that he did trap a (supposedly) peaceful god at the bottom of the abyss

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im still looking into it but i think im smart enough now to actually start piecing things together

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im gonna review them until im confident in knowing who yharim is i guess

cloud ibex
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My point is that like

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You see fuckers like palpatine or classic Disney villains and they’re having a hell of a good time being evil

sturdy current
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sukuna finds joy in evil and yharim doesnt exactly find that

cloud ibex
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Yharim doesn’t seem to enjoy the whole war crimes thing but for the most part he doesn’t appear to have an issue with it either

cloud ibex
sturdy current
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im gonna do a breakdown on his character and share it here later today or tmw if im not too busy with the gym

cloud ibex
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It’s like the difference between dio and funny Valentine

fervent quest
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supports his cause in a way or two

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(thats what i atleast think of it)

sturdy current
cloud ibex
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Well there are certain limits to what he’s willing to accept (see: pbg)

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But those limits are pretty damn high

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Quite literally “I can excuse genocide but not animal cruelty”

sturdy current
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LMFAO

fervent quest
sturdy current
fervent quest
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his very nitpicky limits

sturdy current
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i think its safe to say

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yharim is uh

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very delusional lol

north wigeon
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is there any word to describe what yharim is

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not anti hero
not anti villain either

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villain seems too simple

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a... villain with well written motives? idk?

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i suppose this will do

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tv tropes obliviously evil

sturdy current
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uh technically he would fall under anti villain

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(i studied this a little)

north wigeon
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does he really act benevolently in service of malicious goals

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is killing gods indiscriminately and shoving the good corpses in the wof that

sturdy current
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an anti villain is essentially a VILLAIN, who has some form of good motives but does them in such a horrific way that they cannot be set out as anything more than anti villain simply because they are using evil tactics for a "good" purpose

north wigeon
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is that

sturdy current
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and yeah.. most anti villains are delusional

north wigeon
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not

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an anti hero

sturdy current
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no, let me explain an anti hero

north wigeon
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antihero = bad deeds for good purpose

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antivillain = good deeds for bad purpose?

sturdy current
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an anti hero is someone whos doing something good, but wont mind doing something bad for a good deed. problem is they are still lacking morals but not to the extent of a anti villain

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basically an anti hero is doing bad. but not to dreadful extent like how anti villains do

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like thanos wants to wipe out half of the fucking universe thats dreadful

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hes delusional because he thinks its doing "good" but thats LITERALLY KILLING HALF OF A UNIVERSE

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and uh theres the punisher. who kills criminals because he doesnt believe in the justice system, he has a point and he still admits he does bad things. but at the end of the day hes still doing something good even though he gets there through doing bad things like slaughtering criminals

north wigeon
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i suppose

sturdy current
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also ur technically right here

sturdy current
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sorta right?

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if i were to simplify it to barebones

north wigeon
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so
people always think their own purpose is true and good

sturdy current
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they both want good things, sorta. but both of them are achieving it through a different levels of bad

north wigeon
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antiheroes accomplish good goals at any cost

sturdy current
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an anti hero is just killing people that sometimes deserve it but sometimes they dont but at the end of the day a good thing is still happening and thats less criminals

north wigeon
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while antivillains accomplish bad goals

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...uhh

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at any cost, even by doing good deeds?

sturdy current
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anti villain = i guess bad goal with good intent

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perfect

north wigeon
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awesome

sturdy current
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its bad but they are thinking theres some form of good that comes out of it

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and thats yharim

north wigeon
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makes sense

sturdy current
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its horrific what he does but hes so delusional he thinks theres some form of good in slaughtering.. every god

north wigeon
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also i have to wonder how much truth is in his line

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"Good intentions or no, all gods are sinners."

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benevolent gods killing a dragon regardless

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hmm

sturdy current
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i wouldnt take it too seriously, yharim is still some form of evil

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just not straight up

north wigeon
sturdy current
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like a sick and twisted evil where he thinks its right even tho the bad outweights the good by alot

north wigeon
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...i guess for benevolent gods their good outweighs their one evil deed

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makes sense

sturdy current
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also i kinda dislike how most people are stating hes evil without looking into why it might be like that

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dude was thrown in lava for refusing to absorb yharon which he deemed morally wrong

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that.. can make someone hold a grudge for sure lol

north wigeon
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yeah

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i can see where he's coming from

frozen zodiac
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would the calamity story count as an example of seeing a character's story through someone else's eyes

north wigeon
sturdy current
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like dropping lines like "i have since become deaf to the world outside my crusade. do not fall as i have"

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which in short probably means do not become careless

frozen zodiac
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bizarre comparison why did my brain remember those undertale comics of chara following the player as the ghost narrator

sturdy current
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now dont get me wrong, yharim still probably wants the player to continue killing gods in his place. but he also doesnt want them to make the same mistakes he has made (or supposedly if it could just be an act of him trying to manipulate the player instead of convincing)

frozen zodiac
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gaslight gatekeep tyrantboss

sturdy current
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lol

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thats the perfect word for it

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gaslighting

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i forgot that word existed

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hes gaslighting the player

frozen zodiac
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if i was in calamity i would literally never listen or understand anything he says because i'd be too focused making fashionable vanity clothes to care about the state of the world

sturdy current
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LMFAO

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they need to add lore on why the terrarian showed up and started killing bosses though

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because yharim whispers to him at the beginning for seemingly no reason whatsoever

frozen zodiac
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"silva is a bitch i sent her to the abyss" blah blah, i only care the plants she made are great material for clothes

cloud ibex
frozen zodiac
north wigeon
frozen zodiac
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finally i post it on time

cloud ibex
north wigeon
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mostly just care for calamitas xd

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building her house in anticipation for her rn

frozen zodiac
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yeah i feel like she would appreciate you already having a place specifically for her after all she's gone through

sturdy current
cloud ibex
north wigeon
sturdy current
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"all gods suck ass and are dickheads and deserve to die"

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"bet, lets go jump them look what they did to my face bro"

frozen zodiac
north wigeon
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noted

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TODO: have a bedroom filled with pillows and plushies that she can literally dive in

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hat kid style

neat tinsel
# frozen zodiac

my terrarian is the reincarnation of master chief dedicated to shooting anything that so much as looks at him funny

north wigeon
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i read that as "my terrarian is the reincarnation of master chef"

sturdy current
north wigeon
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now i want farmer's delight for terraria

neat tinsel
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that sounds like a hilarious character idea

north wigeon
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mm, tender exoparticles

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with a hint of
brimstone peppers

rotund shore
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Judging by the fact we know he uses a sword, probably melee

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I also generally feel like yharim gives off vibes of a tank build enjoyer

warm gull
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I feel like if calamitas played terraria she'd be a rogue

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Even though she uses magic

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Idc

umbral forge
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What is providence the goddess of?

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I remember saying it was fire but being corrected by someone saying she's not

warm gull
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Unknown

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She took the soul of the auric dragon of flame

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We don't know what domain she got

umbral forge
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I hope we learn with the redesign

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That's kinda underwhelming imo

buoyant inlet
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As I said in calart

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Most likely ashes

cloud ibex
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some devs like to headcanon it as ash so i don't know if we'll ever be told

buoyant inlet
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I think it's not just headcanon anymore and other devs like this idea, so it might be mentioned in game later

cloud ibex
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fair point

cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
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It could be canonized at some point, if it's needed and discussed

mighty zenith
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the one where he revealed rav's concept art

cosmic zenith
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Oh, I see
This is the first I hear of it, though it's not unexpected

mighty zenith
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That's all we have on it so far anyway

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plus apparently a pre-ascension and post-ascension pre-insanity design?

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which sounds like a lot but uhh pop off mango

mild hatch
# frozen zodiac

You can make Terraria an isekai story about a normal dude who landed on an island in another world
You can make Terraria a horror story about a normal dude who was locked on an island with eldtrich abominations
The Terrarian's lore is up to you anyway

warm gull
cosmic zenith
magic epoch
spring helm
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providence can talk right?

spring helm
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I’ll take that as a yes

amber cedar
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probably

warm gull
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She can communicate somehow

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enough to build a following

sturdy current
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true melee or something like that

civic raven
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so, ik wrath of the gods ain't canon but what if nameless diety and yharim were to fight

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just what if

real silo
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ND is literally capital G god

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There is zero chance yharim wins

civic raven
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so

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lets say those 2 exist in same timeline

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and yharim does all the things

calm patio
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yharim loses

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theres your answer

civic raven
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and ND just allows that despite being godlike?

calm patio
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coz nameless deity isnt xeroc

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Nameless probably doesnt care at all

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all he cares is the "final test"

civic raven
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damn

warm gull
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nameless cares about facilitating the universe and its continued functioning existence

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Not what people do to each other in it

real silo
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what do you mean "all the things"

hushed geyser
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Nameless is literally god

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He could probably evaporate the universe if he wanted who knows

jaunty wraith
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Id nameless diety even a thing in new lore?

rotund shore
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Nameless deity isn’t a thing just like at all

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Nameless deity is kind of based on old lore Xeroc? Keyword kind of

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But to my knowledge wotg is also renaming and reworking noxus, so I imagine they’re trying to distance themself from calamity’s own lore

calm patio
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it "was" a older iteration

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but its is own thing now

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Noxus will be the same

rotund shore
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Them making wotg more of its own thing is cool imo

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Also means that if noxus and xeroc get added to base cal, we won’t have a Spider-Man pointing meme

jaunty wraith
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That would be funny

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Place your bets, noxus vs noxus

calm patio
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Noxus is getting a complete name change in wotg

rancid oriole
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who is addendum?

spring helm
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what

rancid oriole
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on a schematting there says

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addendum you have come far, dont disapoint me

real silo
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addendum is just another version of "also"

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so like "also: you've come far, don't disappoint me"

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it's not the name of a character

rancid oriole
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ah

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lol

rancid oriole
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btw, calamitas is said to be angry a lot over her story, what exactly happened to her?

spring helm
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  1. Brimstone Elemental woke up and started blowing up her city.
  2. When she tried to help, her magic awoke and ensuing battle destroyed Azafure (she was like 12 when this happened).
  3. Soon after, Yharim recruited her into his army and she became a child soldier.
  4. Child soldier Calamitas would commit war crimes and genocide.
  5. When Permafrost, her father-figure, tried to leave the army, Yharim sent Calamitas to kill him. She ended up sealing him in Cryogen instead.
  6. Her magic drives her insane.
pliant ruin
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More like

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depressed

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really depressed

rancid oriole
spring helm
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the latter

rancid oriole
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so anyone that uses her magic goes crazy?

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where can i read that

pliant ruin
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you can't really.. use her magic

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it's... well, as you said

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her magic

rancid oriole
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not the point

spring helm
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Yet despite her great power, Calamitas prefers not to use it, as it takes a heavy toll on her psyche.
This is part of her entry in the Bestiary

pliant ruin
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I believe calclone drops a acessory that seems to allude to the exact effect of it

spring helm
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Though lacking her hexes and black magic, even a fragment of Calamitas' brimstone power was enough to drive the clone to insanity.
Here's what happened with CalClone when it gained access to Calamitas' power.

pliant ruin
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Ayup, chaos stone item

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It inflicts a debuff on you when you use magic items called mana burn that

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you know, damages you

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this is mostly a theory but i'd totally believe if that's an allusion to how calamitas's brimstone magic works

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mental anguish so powerful that it causes physical pain

warm gull
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actually happens

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I don't even think the anguish has to be that bad

pliant ruin
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yeah it happens in real life too to some people

spring helm
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cheese, i want you to know that i added the "Calamitas fails at driving away a bear" idea you had a while ago to my fanfic short

pliant ruin
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its happened to me before

pliant ruin
rancid oriole
warm gull
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It happens to me all the time

pliant ruin
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those are just items

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they don't really have any major lore relevance

spring helm
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item tooltips are kind of hit or miss with how relevant they are to the lore

pliant ruin
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all i can say about them is that i have a headcanon that their names are meant to symbolize Calamitas's trauma and emotions regarding herself

warm gull
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I don't really think boss drops are necessarily always canon

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Like why would ds drop a spear that looks like its flesh

spring helm
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maybe calamitas just developed a hobby of making weapons while she was in self-exile and she gives them to you after she moves in

pliant ruin
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they're like...alot of them you can reasonably find a explanation for them canonically existing but also they don't have any impact on the actual lore and you could also equally reasonably say they don't realy actually exist

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like

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desert scourge weapons, like daichin said, per example

warm gull
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right that's sort of what I meant

pliant ruin
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maybe the terrarian carves them out of its skin and bones and whatnot

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they probably don't

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you know

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drop from it, literally

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its really just up to your own interpretation coz at the end of the day they're just there cuz funny videogame needs funny weapons

warm gull
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right

spring helm
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but that bring up the question of why they dont just have a recipe then since other weapons do

pliant ruin
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cuz videogame probably

spring helm
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yeah

pliant ruin
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having every boss drop a material would be weird

spring helm
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it would just inflate the already enourmous crafting system

pliant ruin
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yeahhh

warm gull
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It's more fun to farm a boss for a weapon than to just craft it idk

pliant ruin
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well there are some that literally do probably drop from the boss to be fair

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like

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spine of thanatos, ares's exosqueleton and leviathan teeth are kind of self explanatory

warm gull
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yeah

spring helm
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Calamitas pays rent by making you weapons

warm gull
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Also I can imagine humanoid bosses like cal and calclone might have a few weapons on them

pliant ruin
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big robot pilot calclone save me

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i want that to be real so bad throudons art is so good...

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this makes me think though

warm gull
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Once calclone gets reworked calamity won't have any more big calamity eye bosses.........

pliant ruin
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how do summons work, realistically, anyways?

visual kiln
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hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

pliant ruin
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like, do you omg hi

spring helm
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I can just imagine Calamitas handing over the Terrarian one of her items and saying "This one is called Calamity. It sets things on fire when you point at them."

and then the Terrarian just going "HOLY SHIT CALMITY SHE SAID THE THING OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!"

pliant ruin
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aza jumpsfcare

spring helm
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DEUS!?

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like

visual kiln
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@visual kiln

spring helm
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GOD!?!?!?!

warm gull
spring helm
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yharim, get her ass

pliant ruin
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@pliant ruin

visual kiln
warm gull
pliant ruin
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i meant like, summon weapons

warm gull
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oh

pliant ruin
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like some are kind of obvious right, the robots are, well, robtos

warm gull
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They're mana manifestations

pliant ruin
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you control them and stuff

spring helm
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where do you get the little dragons from

pliant ruin
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but for something like, the brittle star staf, per example.... i always was under the assumption they were like spirits you summon druid style

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but like... i wonder what specifically about the brittle star staff, again, as a example, lets you do that

warm gull
pliant ruin
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do you have to make a very specific shape while carving a weapon in order to evoke said spirits or something

spring helm
pliant ruin
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kind of like having your own portable ritual in the form of a weapon

pliant ruin
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shes from CANADA

spring helm
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jk

warm gull
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I know but Canada is a fictional place

pliant ruin
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nooo

spring helm
warm gull
pliant ruin
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yeah that's fair but atleast magic projectile weapons are like

spring helm
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im making my terrarian go on a quest to bring moon lord back to its original strength before breaking it out from the seal

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i can beat it

warm gull
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Ooo someone the other day had a theory that dryads are like brimlings but for silva

spring helm
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im built different

pliant ruin
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idk shooting a funny magic beam seems... simpler? than summoning a Crab

spring helm
pliant ruin
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Like it seems more reasonable that by just putting some magic shard at the end of a stick you could shoot a magic beam than by putting some magic shard at the end of a stick you could summon a electric bug

rancid oriole
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speaking of silva

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is there a corpse in the bottom of the abys

pliant ruin
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it's funny to think about, tbh

rancid oriole
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or not even that

pliant ruin
spring helm
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Extensions of the Brimstone Elemental herself, and part of her very being. Both she and her Brimlings are of a single mind, so she naturally cares for them just as she cares for herself. When heavily wounded, they withdraw into a cocoon to protect themselves from further harm.
this is the brimmling bestiary entry

warm gull
spring helm
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her essence has been thoroughly spread around the sea

pliant ruin
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wait lol wouldnt that make the dryad

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the silva npc

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silva npc real

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actually, what if

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that's the explanation for all the like, tiny vanilla elementals too

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ice, granite, all that

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what if ice is from anahita and granite is from sandy, per example

warm gull
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Yes it would explain why the dryad knows everything about the world too

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She has domain over nature

pliant ruin
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what the hell is chaos elemental

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all that's left is cloud

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i don't think chaos and air/cloud are very similar

spring helm
warm gull
spring helm
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Sandy is the earth elemental so yeah i suppose the granite and other mini elementals could be extensions of the twins

pliant ruin
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ye sand is eartgh

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and granite is like

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rock

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which is basically just like

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hard earth

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so

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ice obviously is water so like

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that works too

warm gull
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yeah

rotund shore
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Hi chat

warm gull
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this is a good headcanon

rancid oriole
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speaking of calamitas depression

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once you defeat her

warm gull
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The silva dryad one might actually be important tho so idk

spring helm
spring helm
pliant ruin
pliant ruin
rancid oriole
rotund shore
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Does Terraria have any therapists? Not any on this continent that we know of, I guess

pliant ruin
calm patio
pliant ruin
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I don't see why they wouldn't

spring helm
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to unlock the elemental in a bottle, you must first defeat the other mini-elementals to prove your worth to Sandy

pliant ruin
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Our continent is like kind of a desolate wasteland

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to be fair

rancid oriole
pliant ruin
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we don't have therapists but we also dont have like

calm patio
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You said cryogen

pliant ruin
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anyone

rancid oriole
rotund shore
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Yeah there’s like, under 30 people

calm patio
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You editted

spring helm
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not the same thing, cryogen is the seal that imprisoned permafrost

calm patio
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Dont be a smartass with me

rotund shore
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The cultists ig

spring helm
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therapist npc

rotund shore
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They’re human right

rancid oriole
spring helm
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addon when?

calm patio
spring helm
rancid oriole
rotund shore
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Definitely other people, but not very many

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Like, I imagine some of providences followers are vibing somewhere around here

pliant ruin
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because

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i like to headcanon they're like

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fucked up half dragon half people things now

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kind of like eidolists but Worse

rotund shore
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They might not be human, but they’re definitely still people

rancid oriole
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well irl there has to be a lot more pleople than the ones you house

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static had an entire clan of ninjas

pliant ruin
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they kind of died

rancid oriole
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there has to be villages and shit

pliant ruin
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there's

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probably people

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besides our town npcs

spring helm
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i mean it would probably be difficult to add in an entire city full of people so
it's probably just a gameplay limitation

pliant ruin
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but as a whole it is not a very lively place even then

rotund shore
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Yeah there’s likely others but this continent is a bit of a wasteland

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This wasteland has the corruption and crimson, the astral infection, the plague, so much messy shit

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And was clearly quite the battleground in its hay day considering how many gods must of died here

pliant ruin
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yeah this place kind of sucks

rotund shore
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I hope calamitas can find somewhere more pleasant to live, move out, get a nice house in the middle of a random forest

spring helm
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in my world, there is still a once-big kingdom nearby, but yharim's crusade ravaged it and it can't handle the population anymore. So the terrarian builds a small town for them

rotund shore
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Calamitas living on this continent isn’t great, a lot of constant reminders of her past life, even if a lot of the stuff isn’t her fault

pliant ruin
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i think calamitas should like the forest and the snow biome because it would be cool if she liked the snow biome

rotund shore
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A lot of it you can blame draedon on

pliant ruin
#

she has the vibe of someone who would like a snowy area

rotund shore
rancid oriole
pliant ruin
#

there's a trend i've noticed of npcs who have the vibe of someone who would like the snow biome who actually hate it (clothier, tavernkeep)

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we can fix it

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please

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make cal like the snow biome i beg,,,

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clothier looks so cozy in his hat and scarf, WHY does he hate the snow biome smh

spring helm
#

maybe they'll change her living prefeences when they get around to updating her dialogue

rotund shore
#

Calamitas liking clothier is something I’ve always quite liked tbh

rancid oriole
#

stolen directly from reddit

pliant ruin
#

i love this art

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so cozy

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saving this

rancid oriole
#

its been my phone's wallpaper for a couple of years now

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the lock screen actually

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the wallpaper are kay and yue form haven

rotund shore
#

In the owl house one character wears a shirt with a low battery symbol on it and I always imagine that calamitas would wear that when chilling at home

warm gull
#

Therapist npc mod

#

you can pay them for healing like the nurse

#

they grant the happiness buff for 1 minute

pliant ruin
#

mfers who are tired 24/7 rise up...

warm gull
#

true

#

wait no

#

lay down

pliant ruin
#

mfers who are tired 24/7 lay down...

#

i was about to say that lol

rotund shore
#

Calamitas could pull off that fit

spring helm
#

Big forehead Calamitas

#

Five-headmitas

pliant ruin
visual kiln
#

lore

rancid oriole
#

important question tho

#

how big are calamitas horns?

#

🗿

pliant ruin
#

i keep forgetting that there are other liliths besides mine...

pliant ruin
spring helm
pliant ruin
#

let me think of an animal with tiny horns... uhhmm..

spring helm
#

i dont think they go past the top of her head

rancid oriole
#

do all the people of her "race?" have horns?

solar wharf
#

good fucking question

rancid oriole
#

idk if the prople from the city on hell is diferent from normal humans

#

thats why i said race

solar wharf
#

humans lived there

#

they are normal humans

pliant ruin
#

Ah.

spring helm
#

bro

rancid oriole
#

sorry couldnt resist

#

fr tho, they couldnt be normal humans could they? you know, its kinda hot in hell

#

maybe magically enchanced humans

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or mutated

spring helm
#

reminds me of the "why is calamitas black" question

spring helm
visual kiln
#

i will invent new calamity mod lore

rotund shore
#

No lore can never change

#

It physically shan’t

warm gull
#

based

warm gull
visual kiln
#

yes

warm gull
#

just as redigit intended

visual kiln
#

which is why i will invent

#

ok so

#

dog

rotund shore
#

What this game has dogs??

#

Doggy….

warm gull
#

terraria wiki gg/town_pets

spring helm
#

That’s it?

#

Man I got my hopes up and everything

#

I curse you Azzy, oh a great and terrible curse be upon you

visual kiln
#

calpat

buoyant inlet
#

Caldecapitation

visual kiln
#

calparry

pliant ruin
#

calkill

weak merlin
#

is there any particular lore reason as to why plague stuff only happens after golem or is that just a gameplay thing

pliant ruin
#

the latter ye

spring helm
#

I headcanon it as the lihzahrds managing to keep the plague in check until you destroy them

pliant ruin
#

draedon is causing the extinction of the toxicatfish

#

can we cancel him

spring helm
#

Isn’t that kinda what happened during Yharim’s Crusade

#

Hold on a sec

scenic olive
#

can golem be infected by Astral Infection

warm gull
#

I'd assume so

#

It isn't fully sentient and definitely less advanced than astrum aureus by the looks of it

#

That's all just based on appearence and design tho

#

I'd assume that draedon builds more complex and sophisticated machines in recent times than the lihzahrds did in their ancient temple

pliant ruin
#

It isn't sentient so probably

#

like yeah as daichin said

#

if aureus can be infected

#

dont see why golem wouldnt be, its probably even less advanced

#

kind of a cool design idea... astral golem

rotund shore
#

I think it’d be interesting if the lihzahrds treated it as something of a blessing, they clearly praise the sun, so might treat something coming from the stars like this as a blessing

#

Shittt now I want astral golem

visual kiln
#

astral golem except an entire star is inhabiting the golem

spring helm
#

They praise the sun, so why didn’t they just worship Xeroc when their god left instead of making Golem. Are they stupid?

#

Yharim says: yes

rotund shore
#

If I had any modding prowess I’d make this a sort of superboss version of golem summoned by using a starcore on the altar

buoyant inlet
#

It's depressing how dim and monotone astral is.........

rotund shore
#

I’m trying to actually formulate Headcanons and stuff for the terrarian, shits hard

visual kiln
warm gull
#

They're all the same colors is the problem

#

The entire biome is grey with orange and blue highlights

rotund shore
#

Shit, for the fanfic I’m intending on writing, I don’t even know what the terrarians gender will be

spring helm
#

Is it important

rotund shore
#

I mean when writing I would need to account for their gender within it

dim ferry
#

is that a shadow

image.png
rotund shore
#

I could make em use they/them, I guess

rotund shore
dim ferry
#

ok

rotund shore
warm gull
rotund shore
#

Why do I keep saying I guess

#

I’m tired

warm gull
#

Never describe their appearence or gender

#

Describe their actions without descrbing them

rotund shore
#

Consistently referring to the terrarian exclusively by name would be funny I think

#

But also I must pick name

#

What’s a good gender neutral name?

warm gull
#

morgan

#

Morgan Yu

rotund shore
#

Morgan is kind of a rad name actually

warm gull
#

from Prey 2017

rotund shore
#

I’m gonna try to spec out how this fanfic goes, might consult this chat for stupid lore questions

#

It’ll be post yharim, mostly about the NPCs and whatnot

#

Probably like, a few months after yharims death

spring helm
#

My Terrarian has a described appearance, but that’s because I just plucked him from another fanfic of mine

#

Yes, I isekai’d my Terrarian

real silo
#

Two of my terrarians wear the slime god mask

#

Because I love how it wobbles when you run

#

It's so silly

warm gull
#

my headcanon wise my terrarian is only ever in whatever melee gear is best suited for their part of the game

#

Except they wear the auric tesla rogue helmet

#

Because it looks better

buoyant inlet
#

@stoic lark doppelganger

#

That was just an excuse to summon fluffy in lore discussion

dim ferry
#

im gonna prank my friend with the noxus eclipse

stoic lark
#

...damn it i checked the ping

#

hello fake fluffy

dim ferry
warm gull
#

There are 2 impostors among us

#

Neither fluffy is real actually

north wigeon
#

no clue why

#

something something also auric tesla armor

stoic lark
pliant ruin
#

darth vader

#

chjat i really need to take a shower to go to bed but i also am overwhelmingly afraid of taking a shower currently what do i do

north wigeon
warm gull
#

search your feelings... you know it to be true

north wigeon
#

nothing is original

#

oh my god why does it line up so well

pliant ruin
#

its ok yharim has been compared to darth vader 3000 times already

north wigeon
#

even the part where yharim burns

warm gull
#

Cei said yharim is based on dagoth ur from morrowind

#

I see him as sort of like eren yeager from aot

#

Me when the typing

warm gull
#

Are you rabbid

pliant ruin
#

i am genuinely a bit hydrophobic i think

#

my skin got inflammated earlier today and i'm scared of water hurting me right now :(

warm gull
#

They have a name for people afraid of showers

#

redditors

pliant ruin
#

i'm not a redditor....

#

:(

warm gull
#

You either have rabies or are a redditor

pliant ruin
#

i genuinely am afraid of showers though i think a bit

warm gull
#

There's no in between

rotund shore
#

Cheese is a lorereror not a redditor

pliant ruin
#

i still take a shower every day but it's usually

#

a really hard proccess

#

that involves me procrastinating for like a hour

warm gull
#

being a discord moderator qualifies as the same status as a redditor ig

pliant ruin
warm gull
#

that's ok

#

👍

pliant ruin
#

i just really need to take a shower right now i think

#

i'm fucking stinky

warm gull
#

do it

pliant ruin
#

yeah im gonna do it

#

goodjbye

warm gull
#

I took a shower and then my AC turned off randomly

dim ferry
#

how big will xeroc be?

warm gull
#

Your mother

dim ferry
warm gull
#

If you'd like a serious answer, we don't know

#

Xeroc isn't being added until after the yharim update

#

so we aren't getting a real look at him until 2077

#

when the bombs drop and the yharim update never comes out

dim ferry
#

cowboy

image.png
torpid rover
pliant ruin
#

but it's something else that makes me not want to shower

torpid rover
#

It’s not judgement on my part

pliant ruin
#

yeah i know but i legitimately don't i've tried getting diagnosed for it before

#

i'm just autistic

#

and i have bpd

#

and some other things

torpid rover
#

You do whatever keeps you going

pliant ruin
#

i would've gone to the shower already but uhm. gf dmed me. yah.

soft geyser
#

Why does cal clone fif not work

scenic olive
#

deadspace

#

but like

#

in calamity

#

spin off?

latent hamlet
#

Miracle matter was the player's invention right?

real silo
#

Yes

latent bolt
#

what kind of lore significance do meld blobs and meld constructs have

devout grotto
#

Oh hey, I saw someone who's creating a story for this mod feelsgreat

real silo
devout grotto
#

Been creating some sort of side story myself lately, which is about some rebels and some shenanigans with them

mighty zenith
amber cedar
visual kiln
#

based

warm gull
#

bleughdgdgg

pale mango
#

So I know that Addons aren’t canon, but do the titles in infernum have their roots in canon

#

Like when you spawn a boss

#

It has like a title for the boss and then the name

#

Like for example

#

The desert scourge is the dried glutton

#

It’d be like

 Dried glutton

——————————
Desert Scourge

hoary berry
#

i'm not going to pretend i remember any of them but "the conceited" for dog

#

but i imagine they mostly fit with canon

pale mango
#

Yeah that’s cool

hoary berry
#

some of them are definitely a bit iffy

#

like "false offspring" for folly

#

sure, they lack auric souls, but they are still draconic offshoots all the same

#

they aren't really meant to have auric souls, so they aren't really "false" imo

#

same with calling the profaned guardians "the disciples" when they were provi's party members, so even if provi was the leader they weren't necessarily her students

#

also calling draedon the "cosmic engineer" when he probably hasn't even ventured into space, or at least not very far beyond the atmosphere

#

there are others that i don't think fit but i'm not gonna clog the chat up with infernum stuff any further

buoyant inlet
#

if i was green i'd die

hoary berry
#

if i were neon purple i'd probably not be feeling too good

warm gull
#

neon purple is a fantastic color to be

hoary berry
#

i just feel like it might be a sign of a slight health issue?

#

maybe, just maybe, a cause for minor concern

buoyant inlet
#

No need for pretending

devout grotto
stark basalt
#

Alright fellas, today is a very important day, I DO NOT CARE that this is lore discussion channel, ill say it anyway, I found myself a girlfriend.

#

Its time i stop posting this silly moonlord gif.

#

Maybe at some point ill come back.

#

Remember me. 🫡

cosmic zenith
#

Congratulations!

stark basalt
#

Thank you, sir.

spring helm
#

farewell

hushed geyser
wheat walrus
warm gull
wheat walrus
warm gull
#

was upset to have him but more upset to see him go

hushed geyser
#

Who will take up the mantle of moon lord gif poster

stark basalt
#

I forbid taking my spot.

hushed geyser
#

Tragic

cloud ibex
autumn mirage
#

haha, silly

Screenshot_2024-07-24_111800.png
fervent quest
#

it's been like 1 hour and I already

#

miss the moonlord gifs

mighty zenith
buoyant inlet
#

And yes, congrats!

magic epoch
thick slate
latent hamlet
#

If yharim is gonna have voice lines
I want him to try and convince you to join him at the start of the fight
And he only starts attacking after you get his health to a certain percentage
And in most of the fight
He is still trying to convince you to join him
That would be peak

mighty zenith
#

i want him to be having the absolute time of his life

#

he drops the gaslighting and propaganda just for the moment and is actually enjoying the fight to its fullest

latent hamlet
#

It would also be cool if he gets more and more injured through the fight
With his armor falling off and his wounds bleeding and all
Just like cryogen
I think it would add another impact knowing that he will probably die anyways
Regardless if we win or not do to his conditions that are fueled by our damage

dim ferry
frozen zodiac
dim ferry
#

what weapon will yharim hold?

real silo
#

His fists 👊

shadow ermine
untold bluff
#

How does the titanium railgun work if titanium is not magnetic

scenic olive
#

magic

#

mag(net)ic

untold bluff
#

Killing you

scenic olive
latent hamlet
#

Yharim's ultimate attack should be a dick slap

wheat walrus
#

what the fuck

calm patio
#

How about i beat you with hammers

latent hamlet
#

Dude....
That's just.. fucked up

frozen zodiac
#

burn this user and beat them to death

untold bluff
#

Your public execution will be on July 31st

wheat walrus
#

it will be much sooner

#

I hope

untold bluff
#

Public execution will be in 15 minutes

frozen zodiac
#

group decapitation starts soon?

brisk sand
#

they hated jesus because he spoke the truth

wheat walrus
#

why is the staff mail thing not responding

wheat walrus
frozen zodiac
#

and not the chocolate kind of heresy thats hersheys

drifting canyon
#

@brisk sand please dont say this again; you've been warned

brisk sand
#

Just because your in the storm, doesn’t mean your game is over

#

amen

untold bluff
#

You think you're cool with your quotes and inspirational messages

wheat walrus
#

🤓

untold bluff
brisk sand
#

oil up lil man

calm patio
brisk sand
calm patio
#

🤓

brisk sand
#

does elysium the noble unrivaled, unmatched care

rotund jetty
#

Please stop flirting in the lore channel

calm patio
#

yea you do

#

you responded

#

lmfao

brisk sand
#

correct

#

i responded

#

your point?

calm patio
#

refer what i said earlier

brisk sand
#

im not gonna refer to anything

#

i do n ot care

wheat walrus
brisk sand
#

If you avoid battles all the time, how can you expect to compete with the best?

wheat walrus
brisk sand
#

my ap is unmatched

#

my strength is omniversal

#

type shi

wheat walrus
#

lil bluftherthon think he strong with that omniversal ap 😭

brisk sand
#

If your enemies can make edits, it was never your build to begin with

calm patio
#

Bros named after a nohit world

#

Imagine

brisk sand
rotund jetty
#

What are Wulfrum bots? Did someone make them or are they just there like slimes and zombies?

spring helm
#

Someone who opposed Yharim’s crusade

left void
#

Im sure it's been memed on

#

I never got into Calamity's behind the scenes

#

But im wondering

#

What's up with yharim?

warm gull
#

They're made by some people who resisted yharim yeah

left void
#

Will he ever become a boss

calm patio
#

yes

#

in the future

#

in years

warm gull
#

It's tough that they decided to make it out of like, the shittiest metal possible

left void
#

From what I know he's kinda the big bad

calm patio
#

yes

left void
#

And he's not a boss (yet?)

warm gull
#

Wulfrum is good for magitech but not for durability and structure

calm patio
#

itll be years till hes added

warm gull
#

Hence why wulfrum bots should have steel shells and only wulfrum internals!

left void
#

Years pepehmm

#

Cooked to perfection?

calm patio
#

yharim is not a priority at the moment.

left void
#

Ah i see

#

Idk if it's the channel for that kind of talk

#

While we're here What's the prio rn?

north wigeon
#

– Wulfrum Blunderbuss tooltip

warm gull
#

tru

#

However

#

Steel would prevent it from stopping functioning

visual kiln
#

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

north wigeon
#

but why wouldn't you want a gun made out of its own ammo

rotund shore
#

Fun terraria fact, if not atleast 2 of the motifs from cryogen, yharon, scal, and exo mechs themes are in the yharim boss track, I will commit crimes

#

I’m a leitmotif enjoyer and god it’d be such a shame to NOT have em

buoyant inlet
warm gull
north wigeon
warm gull
#

cool is not practical

north wigeon
#

ok but have you ever heard of rule of cool

warm gull
#

it's much more practical to give wulfrum bots steel shells

warm gull
north wigeon
#

i concede

warm gull
#

I find working around the flaws in your world's systems to be far cooler

north wigeon
#

anyway what alloy or metal would you think wulfrum is
that it's so unbelievably fragile

#

and with that coloration

warm gull
#

Like wulfrum being good for internals but not for durability, therefore put it inside a hard shell

#

Basically like copper irl

north wigeon
#

true

rotund shore
#

The information this image gives haunts me, trying to make a good Headcanon for the terrarian is hard

The_Terrarians_Lore_is_up_to_you-1.png
brisk sand
rotund shore
#

Only two notes I have jotted down for them (for the hypothetical calamity fanfic I’ll write)
They have no stated gender
Their name is Morgan

#

I still need to make that thing called a personality

#

Or what they look like, for that matter

#

I could just take my irl bias and give them leinfors’ set

lean crag
#

Gosh how much has that image spread around now

spring helm
spring helm
#

or base it off it at least

rotund shore
spring helm
#

well there you go

#

while we're on this topic,
you got any ideas for what font Moon Lord would speak in? I wanna give him a totally alien vibe by making him speak in a different font from the other characters.

rotund shore
#

Comic sans /j

spring helm
#

im taking it

weary pasture
#

Bro who is this Elysian mid

#

Kid

rotund shore
spring helm
rotund shore
brisk sand
#

im in the top 1

spring helm
#

i also bolded and italicized for efffect

brisk sand
#

%

rotund shore
#

I was joking with comic sans, but I guess any font is imposing with bold and italicizing

spring helm
#

i tried Impact, but it was illegible

#

here's Times New Roman

image.png
#

idk this one and Arial feels more like Draedon with how formal it looks

#

maybe yharim when he's spitting that yharpaganda

wheat walrus
#

shook the world?!?!

#

at least small country level feat!!!!!!!!!!

spring helm
#

yeah i upped the powerscale in my fanfic

#

sorry omni

wheat walrus
#

nah you didn't

#

scal's sea vaporization feat still scales a bit higher

spring helm
#

but i wanted to make the DoG fight (if i ever get around to writing that) look more like a dogfight between two supersonic jets, if one of the jets was a kilometer long space worm

spring helm
#

forgot a word in the second paragraph

wheat walrus
buoyant inlet
#

I feel like Weaver is a better candidate for high speed aria fight

wheat walrus
#

but idk

spring helm
#

should be "rippled and shifted"

spring helm
#

but DoG scales above Weaver so...

buoyant inlet
#

Dog is a tank

spring helm
#

ah whatever i'll just shift the idea to Weaver I guess

#

thanks for the idea

wheat walrus
buoyant inlet
#

Realistically weaver is not that lower I feel like

wheat walrus
#

fight between the 2?!?!??!?!

#

real!?

spring helm
#

no

wheat walrus
#

oh alr

spring helm
#

this is just calamitas' perspective of the Terrarian vs. Moon Lord fight

wheat walrus
#

oh alright

#

so it's a terrarian fanfiction

spring helm
#

yes

#

but i ran out of inspiration so im writing the chapters out of order

#

technically this would be like, well over halfway into it

#

but the first chapter isnt even done yet lmao

wheat walrus
#

I should get to writing things

weary pasture
#

He was just role playing

spring helm
#

anyway this one should be finished soon at least since the focus isn't on the fight but just Calamitas' life in a cave until my Terrarian finds her

rotund shore
wheat walrus
weary pasture
wheat walrus
rotund shore
#

Still, a bold word to have in a bio, especially with the full sentence

weary pasture
#

I'm black and i say the n word a lot

#

it's a joke though

#

Like it's not that deep

#

Can i not say the n word here when im black?😭😭

swift wigeon
spring helm
#

then wtf was he doing?
being negligent towards everyone who helped him

#

as he himself admits

swift wigeon
#

Yeah but he actually cared about Calamitas

#

He regrets forcing her to do the things he did more than anything else

spring helm
#

personally i disagree, but i see nothing wrong with your headcanon being the way it is

swift wigeon
#

Don't forget that Yharim also personally decided to take Permafrost's word and allow him to mentor her

swift wigeon
#

It is clear that he deeply regrets what he made Calamitas go through

#

And it makes sense why she in particular would stick with him - she was just a child

spring helm
#

unremarkable name jumpscare

image.png
north wigeon
#

i can't believe the terrarian is Markiplier all along

rotund shore
#

I think I made the right call with the name Morgan, I also considered charley and Sam

#

And non zero chance I swap to those tbh

spring helm
rotund shore
spring helm
#

i thought Morgan was male and Morgana was female

rotund shore
#

A quick google search and what somebody has told me is that Morgan is gender neutral

calm patio
#

Genius

rotund shore
#

Atleast that’s what google is telling me

north wigeon
rotund shore
#

Honestly the other two options I was considering were also very compelling

eager bluff
north wigeon
spring helm
#

eh, not like naming conventions are law anyway

rotund shore
#

Sam or charley are a bit more firmly neutral which makes them a bit more compelling, but honestly it doesn’t matter that much

spring helm
#

i guess you could also go by vibes

#

which name gives off vibes that fit the character more

rotund shore
#

Yeah, I can write out the personality of the character then think about which name is best

#

But man I’m not a writer (even if it’s a skill I want to learn), so I’ve yet to even really get a start on it

spring helm
#

here's what i do:
write down in a list everything you want to see end up on your fic

rotund shore
#

Not a bad idea, I do really need to scope this thing out

#

Even if it likely won’t go anywhere

sinful adder
hoary berry
spring helm
#

Moon Lord’s voice is like, passing through reality

#

Something like that

#

He’s weak as a boss compared to the endgame guys because he’s been weakened

#

But in lore at full power he solo’d all the dragons and inflicted a Pyrrhic victory

celest kettle
spring helm
#

He’s been brought back to that peak so I wanted to make even his general presence world bending

#

(Just so the Terrarian can whoop his ass even harder)

stuck shore
#

I have a question: how do Moray eels irl live? Are they a bit hostile irl? I’m asking bc of how cal could interpret some enemies better

spring helm
#

It won’t be shown in this chapter though because it’s not the focus
Also I’m not ready to write a fight of that scale yet

spring helm
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If you stick your hand into their tunnel you will lose that hand

stuck shore
celest kettle
stuck shore
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Would pet IF they are comfortable with that

spring helm
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They can be but you have to let them approach you

stuck shore
zinc karma
hoary berry
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All this fanfic talk has me wanting to actually start working on my OC's story again

zinc karma
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yippee

rotund shore
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Alright I’ve started cooking up the baseline for my potential fanfic thing, if I was to toot my own horn, I’d say I’m absolutely cooking

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But I am definitely not cooking lol

zinc karma
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what happened in the 5 minutes :(

magic epoch
rotund shore
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I have the general idea that for a bit of the terrarians quest, a mix of yharims vague whispers, and them growing strong this quickly makes them think this is fate, eventually, that whimsical notion fades away, probably after some chats with permafrost

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Idk where I’ll even write this, I might just think up ideas and leave them in my good ol noggin

zinc karma
pliant ruin
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Not killing machines but like any other wild animal give it distance unless you're a trained professional

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I don't think there's many, if any cases of deaths caused by morays

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But at the same time they can definitely harm you if you provoke them because they're predators at the top of the food chain, so

warm gull
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Moray eels have been friendly to humans that feed them before

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however, it is viewed as bad because it makes them less afraid of us

stuck shore
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We should do an accurate research of existing abyss beings to make them act realistic to some degree

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For an abyss rework update

pliant ruin
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I mean