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yes
I have no personality, black eyes and hair, and I go around collecting women like pokemon
chainsaw man
genuinely some of the most nuanced and well written stories ive ever seen
and on the other hand
Chainsaw man is genius
But I feel like nobody really gets it
depending on how you define isekai, Spirited Away counts
2 billion bad isekais
I got sent to another world with a lobotomy
PLAY AND OR WATCH YO KAI WATCH ITS PEAK
The fact that people still simp so bad for makima says it all
Oh god
That looks like a manhwa
chainsaw man is amazing but the problem lies within the community treating it like they treat shonen slop when its not shonen slop and its actually really well written
Japanese Isekai is bad
But Korean Isekai is another level bad
Actually there are a few good ones and the concept isn't impossible to write well
it is iirc
the concept itself isnt bad
its just that the execution sucks
a yankee in king arthur's court, my favourite isekai
people who call denji a simp are not gonna survive the winter
I feel like the fact that people like makima is also a reason it's so genius
i like makima (as a character
I love konosuba and no matter how many shows copy it I won't stop liking it
(shes a terrible person
In reality the message is towards young adolescence boys
denji just needs therapy
I just want to see makima get gigafuckstomped into dust by gojo satoru
he needs it real bad
okay time to get my head in the game i need to start this chapter off
leave my favorite quirked up white boy alone
a lot of people do
death battle
Denji is pretty much exactly like the people that simp for makima
Just an average boy
Denji is someone who didn't feel actual love or affection throughout his entire life
Mfs saying every fictional character needs therapy
So he dosen't know what being affectionate or feeling affection from others is like
So he just interprets it as
sex good!
without realizing what he actually wants is to form connections
which leads to him being manipulated
But I can't really talk about how makima a grown woman saw this and took advantage of this
Because its way too morbid for here lmao
dialogue in csm is legit so good coz sometimes i just sit there reading it and going. holy shittt
Tbh there are things I don't like about it as well
good dialogue is ones you can just sit there reading and analysing it on ur head
The deaths are too sudden sometimes
Some see this as powerful
But for me this is a weak part of it
like in csm, madoka and evangelion
its not my fault if my taste in media is "sad gay people"
I'm like denji because I need to form connections
this channel is offtopic 80% of the time its fine tbh
So relatable
Denji is made to be relatable
That's the entire point
Are you gay because you're sad or are you sad because you're gay?
good question
There are also people attracted to the same gay people but it's sad because they are the opposite gender
Lmfao
Cheese knows who I'm talking about
the only thing i know about CSM is that one of the character is apparently autistic coded (asa i think it was) 
Aza is autism coded?
Lmfao
@visual kiln ?
aza jumpscare
I probably have adhd but I refuse to self diagnose
well
there's a difference beetween self diagnosing and going "yeah i probably got that"
I uh
whats csm
chainsaw man
wtf]
also hiii
Chainsaw go brre
I can't focus on anything except the one thing I want to focus on and then get really sad when I don't get anything done :(
huiiiiiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiuiiuiiiiiiiiuuuiiiiuuuuiuuuuuuuuuuuuu
i have autism and bpd and i'm pretty sure i have some other things but i've not been diagnosed with them yet so
calpat
I've literally never been able to go to a therapist consistently ever and get a diagnosis
for one i think i might have some form of ptsd or something similar
i'm like calamitas irl
I've gone to the same therapist a maximum of 3 times before stopping
i cant tell if its my autism or a common human thing that i just gravitate to liking characters that are autistic coded because i can relate to them
though for some reason whenever a character is explicitly stated to be autistic in universe their writing seems to drop very hard
I've only gone to a therapist once and she did NOTHING FOR ME!!' she was ASS
i got my bpd diagnosis like
I mean
I've only had one therapist
I suck at being therapy'd by anyone except for a few people who I know who aren't professionals
I've visited her multiple times
i cant remember the full quote but it was something like "write a character that happens to have a condition instead of a character who's only trait is that condition"
who r the people
and i wanna try getting a diagnosis for ptsd or whatever else that is
but
rn im too busy and broke to go to therapy
so itll have to wait a bit
After my first therapy session my therapist prescribed stuff to me and I don't think she was legally allowed to do so... 👍
My friends have told me I'm a good therapist before
true
-# || (recently, I've seen a comment on a youtube video where a character is repeatedly flashed with a bright light by the player and yells at the player to GET OUT every time they do that. Like, who wouldn't be angry at somebody who keeps on doing that?)||
I wish I could therapy away my own problems
People also fail to realize that the independence of usa was 100% tied to chainsaw man
And I have proof
not telling‼️
Half life
?
No
it was Roblox Pressure (which I feel like an idiot for having to type roblox beforehand)
what
aaaaa
Terra toilet would undoubtedly win
I'll do you a better one azzy
yippee
@pliant ruin
That would be absolutely lit
We need to have a yharim and draedon one
I think that would be the best
yharim would win against draedon himself but like
draedon is functionally immortal
so
quite literally a tie
no way
Like a rap battle
Tbf if Draedon just sent in a bunch of fully aggresive Exo mechs he'd probably kill Yharim
Probably also ones upgraded with Miracle Matter
Dude
oh yeah Fatalis once again received a buff
exos in their current state
are weaker than yharim
but
i mean
if he upgraded them enough
Isn't yharim pretty much said that exo mechs can almost kill ihim
That's why I said a bunch
the verse got past multi-continent level
they could def put up a fight
but yharim is stronger enough that he'd most likely win
but
upgrade them a bitr and yeah
exos win
and again draedon is
functionally immortal
so if he really wanted to kill yharim himself
he absolutely could
if you just
waited some time
Drae and cal are about equal in terms of raw power I'd say
it's all outta control
But draedon does have infinite time to use that power
Also
Isn't it incredible that we can replace our heart with senator Armstrong one without even hurting ourselves?
caramitte rore mod
No senator armstrong also did that
armstrong solos the verse...
Armstrong vs yharim
(pretty sure he doesn't actually)
Erm it's draedon's heart not armstrong's
Yharmstrong
My goat would never be a politician
Come terravar, friend or traitor come!
I mean
It's just a rename at this point
But fair
You can even hear his iconic line if you hear closely
Dreadon 50000 gorillion years in the future having explored 500 different alien ecosystems and civilizations long after earth itself has died out
And the anthem of usa
Terraria otherworld lore
Draedon sends you as his lab rat to terraform entire planets
you'd probably be dead by then unless you somehow turned fully immortal
Actual brainrot I came up with a while ago
which i mean
i guess
your terrarian could be immortal if you want them to be so
there sthat
The funny thing about draedon is
while there are other
quote on quote
immortal characters besides him
ex: elementals
they will all die out at some point based on the fact that
well
the earth will at some point become fully inospitable to life and/or be destroyed by the natural progression of time
draedon though?
he can go to space
and not only that
Draedon eventually just becomes AM from I have no mouth and I must scream
consider that he's already advanced enough to go to the moon
give him enough time
and he absolutely will be able to literlaly travel to other galaxies
hell naw AM Draedon would be fucked up
while xeroc is obviously the strongest character currently
He actually might not do that
Solely because he doesn't have enough motivation
draedon is in a place where
well
nobody can really kill him
and he'll only develop more technologies and learn more from here
I mean
It's extremely plausible
he's inevitably gonna become the single most powerful character in the mod with enough time
Currently no
me asf
He has no reason to leave earth because
well
theres stuff for him to research here
but at some point
he'll know everything there is to know
specially when earth's resources inevitably deplete itself
He is easily the smartest character
I genuinely think
I feel like you can say xeroc is
But he is not even a good
draedon is the batman of calamity
Mars got fucked by fovos
just give the guy prep time
unless something unpredictable happens
Xeroc was instantly granted his knowledge
But drae is learning at an extremely fast pace
wrong cause I will blow up dardone
Anybody could kill draedon given enough time to find all his hardware tbf
It's much more probable that that happens before the universe ends
Do you really think he lets that happen?
well the thing is
The USA
he has alot of them
and they're hidden
and theoretically
someone could do thta currently
but at some point
he'll have
so many
throughout literally like
different stellar bodies
What if I could boom the while world
that it'll be completely unreasonable
He also tried a diplomatic approach at the player
draedon currently is in the ''functionally immortal but could theoretically be killed" stage
I feel like we can somewhat disable him for a long time
But realistically we wouldn't want to do that
if you give him enough time he will quite literally become immortal and from there i think he'll legitimately only die when the universe itself dies
Or maybe he ends himself
There is also a good chance he might become your wife
This is because they added a draedon dating sim In the recent update
Once they get far enough away from each other, the bodies of draedon would functionally be individuals
🤓
draedon ethnostate
if i cant kill him i'll just trap him in virtual hell by making him completely unable to do anything but keeping him conscious
Do not the nerd emoji in lore-discussion
We are the enlightenment masses
draedon would be the worst wife because he automates everything but he still just spends his time crafting machinery
Give up free will forever
i'm incredibly hungry oh my ghod
im gonna starve
im gonna die
im bleeding out
my organs are failing
you bad?
go get a good American Cheeseburger
i wish i could
This is ironically an extremely fitting song for draedon imo
Look
i dont have a dog
There is always an option
im back guys
Well cat
i didnt write anything
Your brother actually
i'm gonna stab you more
i got stuck on trying to make it as good as possible and didnt get a single word out
As someone that has a sister she would definitely cannibalize me without remorse if she is hungry
mildly off topic if i could date a terraria npc it would be the stylist i dont get the dryad and zoologist hype i'm fine with pink haired scissors lady
Cheese should eat food iirc
Calamitas
If she is even into that
old
Well damn
this is the second time
Cockblocked
People don't give af she's literally a naked young looking woman tf do you expect
like actually the second time
you CANNOT fix her she is deeply traumatized just dont try please
id date NONE of them
Medic is also good asf
because i dont have to date any terraria characters because i already love my wife
"i can fix her" when "i have learned that her problems are part of who she is and i still accept her even then" walks in
You should still try to help them with their problems
now, consider this
do you actually like her ingame personality in her dialogue or are you just blinded by all the fanart she has
you can and you should
i feel like "fix" in this case would be "help her get her life back together"
but you cannot fix them
Realistically
I would actually try to romance draedon out of anyone if it was possible
important distinction
you should help them with their problems but also theyre not broken and their mental illnesses don't make them broke so you can't fix them
Tbh I just like how strong she is
If I'm being 100% serious this is the exact reason
Mental illness is not something to be proud of but it also shouldn't be shamed
Just understand them and be the best you can in spite of them
These two are definitely present
No matter the actual situation she is in
ive had people flirt with me after i said i had bpd
this conversation is a little bit upsetting rn so I'm gonna go do my yardwork
its crazy.
what
have fun blurg daichin from the calamity mod discord
Tho calamitas is definitely recovering to some point
"i can fix her" mfers
You procrastinating little dog you
some people fetishize mental illness and it shows
I know people that like limbless girls
the only way to fix calamitas is to not be weird like redditors in comment sections and to be an acceptable human being
I'm not kidding this is an actual fetish
this is the challenge
can you win this challenge
On YouTube there are millions of views on medical deceptions
or would you lose
The only way to fix calamitas is let her fix herself
at the same time (and this is just my opinion), Calamitas at the end of the day is a fictional character so like
idk i just dont care when people say weird things about her
true
i know drunk princess isnt canon but would basically anyone want a relationship with her
That maid costume started it all
is there actually no lore on the terrarian aside from being some random overpowered hillbilly with destiny on their side?
She isn't someone you really want a long term relationship at least tbfh
fuck where did i leave the image
yeah
Fuck
Wrong one
wtf was that image
neat
Should I upload it again?
no
Alright
i downloaded it twice just to have it on hand
Okay you guys stopped talking about being happy and loved I can return to procrastinating
This single image changed my perspective on life
The problem stems from the fact that if someone ignores a character's sexuality because they think the character is hot chances are they probably would do the same to real people
And also for people who are part of the same sexuality group as the character it's incredibly uncomfortable for that reason alone, not to mention people who find comfort in said character and the fact it dwells in a deeper issue with the internet as a whole and sexualization but i'm not getting there
If you find calamitas to be attractive or whatever at the very least keep it to yourself
fair enough i suppose, i've never faced any problems similar to this so i have no stake in the matter
As someone who is in the ace spectrum it is not very comfortable in the occasions i tell someone she's aroace and they outright ignore it and go "idgaf" or something. it dosent happen to often but it happens
what calamitas has a sexuality now?
She's had one for a long while
or i miss something
well it's not said in the game at all so i wouldnt fault you for not knowing
where is it said
It's not really hard to tell she doesn't want a relationship
yeah not knowing it is fine
the problem is when you tell someone and they ignore it or dismiss it and keep being horny on main
but cheese
She has way too many other problems to deal with
nah im not one them horny over a 30 pixel sprite i was just curious
that isnt even a good trope smh
well ok its not a bad trope either its just whatever
it only works well with kyoko and sayaka and nobody else
is she canonically? she seems mentally unavailable due to unbelievably intense trama
We need a tsundere character in calamity

one of the 3 characters with a canonical sexuality and one of the 4 canonical lgbt characters
just like any other trope really. Whatever the concept may be, at the end of the day it's the execution that determines a work's quality.
honestly idgaf abt dating her i just want her to be happy
the terraria workshop was a mistake to the point i had to learn steam had an option to blacklist words to remove certain items from appearing because so many texture packs give basically every npc tits
which 4 characters in calamity
xeroc, calamitas, statis, braelor
oh yeah statis and braelor are gay good for them :)
real as fuck!!!
gold for them
Xeroc has a sexuality?
FUXK
What the hell
thanks for the reddit gold kind stranger
who looks at calamitas of all people and goes "i want to date her"
Oh
freaks
I'm so damn dumb
people can't see women
so like god gender or sum shit
it ain't even "date" it's straight up the next step
no hes just nonbinary
Dude...
I know that
I moderate the subreddit it sucks
... are his pronouns are he/they?
yes
im going to be honest with you i forgot that nonbinary was lgbt
his pronouns are in fact he/they
we had to nuke the horny dudes
i thought nonbinary was just... there
i try switching beetween the two all the time i'm surprised you hvaent noticed
but fair enough
oh yeah
when you're a literal light god the concept of biological sex ceases to be
wouldnt draedon also be nonbinary
if someone misgenders you simply smite them from this mortal realm
so true
pretty sure its supposed to be a dude
but he uses masculine pronouns
yeah there's the difference between biological and social or whatever it was called
i suppose draedon mind uploaded was built by a guy
does he use male pronouns for himself or is it just something everyone does for him
if draedon sent his conscience to a machine would that make him trans nb
what
he probably uses he because it uses the least amount of letters
(former
the minmaxer
yeah, since he doesnt really care about anything outside of research i thought that made him nonbinary
orr orr ae ae
"will you name your pokemon A"
nonbinary asexual aromantic draedon
if i had to guess maybe the only reason he even uses masc pronouns is because
he probably was a guy before the botched mind upload
and that just kind of lingered on even if his memories kind of
but what about the draeting sim...
💥
you can date nonbinary people it's okay
or he just looked at his inventor and go "yeah that seems about right"
but is he aroace though
hm...
i can confirm
it's called the draedate because he gives you concrete dates
probably
why dont they just make frost and pumpkin moon canon since they already have nightmare fuel and the other thing
that would make christmas canon
true...
because they wouldnt make sense lore-wise and also they want to change it ot the distortion anyways
fuck it make santa canon
which implies jesus exists
realistically if they REALLY wanted to make them canon they could
but
they have other plans
so
we just pluck those materials from the aether
what other major things arent canon other than those old ones army and deerclops
uhhh
drunk princess
donor items
solar eclipse but not entirely
just the enemies that are like
references
why did they give drunk princess hug dobanhonkaroos
ask fabsol
is that just what fabsol looks like
oh yeah i was worried that post distortion the moon material ones would have the wrong theme and be out of place
yeah probably
but they don't even have a theme lmfao
wym moon material ones
they're just random weapons
oh like nightmare fuel
what did the cal devs mean by this
nightmare fuel and endo energy
darksun fragments when the lightmoon shards show up
lmfao
fuck it make old gen console exclusive shit canon
unrelated but it seems like post DoG is way too crowded for weapons
or like pre and post DoG at the same time with the changes
like, shit, DoG loot and crafts is an armor set and roughly 3 weps per class
seems rather condensed
yeah i REALLY don't get maid costumes either
Hello lore chat I woke up some time ago and I want to reports my dog take
I probably need to make it a bit less animalistic
And idk about horns
I don't really like them but the head looks empty without em
you should give it at least one feature that makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint
because the distortion is freaky
I want to give him ability to split his jaws like shin Godzilla
snake maxxing
And also probably the ability to bend his skull in unnatural ways in general
would go hard
distortion beam
Dog deathray attack 🔥
dog with the atomic heatray like shin godzilla would go hard
do fridges exist
im writing a short fanfic right now and im doing a scene where Calamitas longs for better things in her life but stops because she doesnt believe she deserves better
fridges are vital to this scene
I like to imagine that cal is very bad at any technology
yes
can we make like an icebox with permafrost's magic
keeps all of our cold ones cold
i feel like since since magic is so common in Calamity that it is just normally integrated into technology and the only people who make distinctions between the two are weirdos like Draedon
I honestly really like the tooltip for wulfrum prosthesis, super fun lore
guys will the desert scourge look like aquatic scourge if llmeris wasnt scorched dry?
similar, but not exactly. Aquatic scourge is a cousin to the scourges that inhabited ilimeris
no not really
theyre different species
if anything desert scourge would probably look almost identical to what it looks now
maybe with different colors due to better nutrition but thats all i can imagine would change
Actually I want to make dog more viper like
Doesn't look alien enough. Too much like a real snake
What would you suggest?
Uh
There can be alien snakes
More eyes
Mandibles, 4 eyes, eel second jaw which also has mandibles
Dog when mouth ception
There was an idea I had ages ago for a dog redesign
Where it alsmost like had a fake appearance
Sideways mouth
What's up with worms like enemies and having mandibles in terraria
Kinda like a really screwed up xenomorph tongue
Not something I'm looking for
I want it to feel like a snake
Like a proper serpent
Honestly I like your design
But I agree that it can be more alien
Could make it's frill larger XD
In some ways
This head
...it's also this head
Give DoG the omega flowey teeth mandibles head
They're not mandibles because they're mammalian jawbones turned sideways
That won't look good sideways and I want to do it sideways
Give dog a pair of hands
Plus I've drawn dog with similar mouth already
Oh, perfect
Quick question, where was yharims age ever stated?
Fair enough
...but less human teeth, more metallic nubs and spikes
So many things just being confirmed by dev statements sucks, even if some of that will be alleviated eventually
I feel like most dev statements are either some minor information that can't really be added to game, or information that will be explored in game in future
But why would he have metallic teeth and spikes?
Also I'm personally not a fan of horizontal mouths
Anywhere they're used
Or, well, when they're used on animals
Like Photoshop flowey works he's not an animal
DoG is a creature from a mirror universe
It's more of personal preferences thing
Alien is a broad term
I am an alien
I believe it
i don't think dog even has basic biological functions tbh
anyways i'm going to bed goodnight
The vorer of gods
zarachard is only as human as I percieve him to be
and since I don't percieve zarachard at all he is 0% human
I wonder what other kinds of people are out there beyond the continent we play on
We've seen humans, fish people, and lizard people. What else is there?
martians
Bee people (I'm not biased)
martians aren't from terraria silly
Plant people (I'm not bia

dark elves (azafurians)
No your garbo
Holy shit is that mao zedong
what about my garbo
I stole it
WHA
Mine now
give it back
mao is evil and fucked up
no
I have become the hater
public enemoy number one
Ooh the treachery
this user is suspected of being throudob
no yuore not
We also know there are goblins and dryads
Wait, if dryads are nature elementals, is the one we meet literally a part of Silva?
The same way the brimlings are part of the brimstone elemental
In old lore silva was the first dryad
Yes, but is she still that?
Are dryads nature elementals
isnt she still the first dryad
the flavor text that opens the abyss chests calls her the first dryad
The only elementals that exist are sand, cloud, anahita, and brimstone
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maybe she still us the first dryad idk
yes
why are you named glassius cannonius here
ancient ass nick i havent bothered getting removed
lmao
That doesn't answer anything.
This is the only nickname I've ever had on here
Hi nick
faceius tankius
they arent nature elementals
they are dryads
2 different things
Who's to say these aren't the same thing
If the dryads aren't nature elementals, then who else are they. Where else do they live? Was the jungle place that made plantera them?
we dont know
I want answers
Maybe dryads are like dragon offshoots but for gods/elementals
too bad! we dont have them
Because there is only 1 nature elemental and that's silva
Also I imagine dryads lived in giant trees
Therefore no dryads can be nature elementals
only 1 dryad can be a nature elemental and thats silva
Elementals canonically split themselves into pieces which are also part of them, like brimmy and the brimlings. Dryads could be the same way.
This is a stupid and bad answer and Cal should remove anything that can't make sense in lore from the game or adapt them into something that does make sense.
I commend you
because vanilla lore really like
This I mean
barely exists tbf
would b funny if silva has been with younthe entire time in the form of the dryad
It does exist, there's a ton of it in game, in NPC dialogue and the bestiary, and it sucks completely ass and contradicts itself. I paid close attention to it in vanilla 1.4 playthroughs for a while
shes gonna burst out of her chestbuster style
that one redigit statement:
That statement contradicts other statements. They said that anything in the game is canon, and they also put a bunch of bullshit in the game that tells about lore and it all contradicts itself. The best solution to this is for calamity to come in and replace all of it
5
Rework every line of dialogue and bestiary entry into one cohesive story
hamburger cheeseburger whopper and all that
It's stupid and that's why I want it replaced, so that I can pay attention to it
vanilla lore is a masterpiece that cei will NEVER match despite all her best efforts‼️‼️
extremely loud incorrect buzzer
That's not really how it works
If it's in game, is not dedicated, referenced, crossover content, it's canon, unless it isn't (festive moons)
no amount of white noise can silence the truth‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
fair
Calamity shouldn't shake off vanilla content to force its own narrative, ideally it should try to adapt it
I think that even those things should be reworked into something canon. Festive moons can be the work of the gods of harvest and yule
Unless it's something unsalvageble like festive moons
Who hid on the moon to escape yharim
Even those can be salvaged if you try hard enough
terrarian beating a minor 
And if it's not in game, it's not canon
there isn't anything wrong with beating minors
That's what my mom says at least


I like it
split jaws ❤️
guys now that i notice when you defeat skeletron for the first time a message say " the dryads let you open the abyssal chest " or smth like that i forgot
but which dryad
and they say dryads
It mentions the first dryad
but there's one
Who is Silva
Father of Machines
My mom
Technically
as long as you count as 'life'
shes your mother

Zamn
I am synthetic life form
people begin dying as I kill them
blood is fuel
that equals to you being fuel btw
Hell is full
erm but mankind isn't dead
hi lore chat....
is that chesed
hi
before we get to kill yharim he retires into another dimension
and becomes a hair stylist
What is calamitas exactly?
Is she human? A demon? Or something else.
They're just grey people from the underworld
Yeah she's a human of azafurian race
Azafurian horns exist so I have handlebars to hold on to as I spin them around like Mario did to Bowser
💥
is calamitas the only azufurian left
im sure there were others who escaped or weren't there to witness it happen
renegade warlocks are still present in the city's remains but aren't actually alive iirc
i don't really think they should count tbh
also they really need a redesign
because before they were known as cultist assasin
and i feel like now they just gave him lore to make him fit in
last resprite was in 2017 according to the wiki
because he is a very old enemy
they should either remove him or completely redesign him
What is their lore
And yeah I think so
they made despair stones, and were victims of cal and brimmy's clash i think
Terraria unfortunately isn’t meant for one off npcs but I imagine they’re still out there
Well actually
Let me rephrase that no one has tried yet
some sort of magic, probably necromancy, keeps them 'alive' despite having died, and they probably use it to make the despair stones
Her bros 
Imagine stuff like botw traveller npc’s
Just one off guys that make the world feel much more alive
Icic
the bestiary sort of implies they retained their minds, though it doesn't outright say it
i guess the reason that is possible is that they died directly to necromantic magic rather than simply being resurrected by it?
though again idk if it's confirmed that it is typical necromancy that even kept them alive
i wonder what npc towns would look like if terraria was linear instead of the player having to build houses
Lemme read the entry rq brb
honestly
probably like the underground basins but probably with some basic roofs
Mhm ok ok
I think what it’s trying to say is yeah they died to necromancy magic but they also used it on themselves a bit?
would that count if they arent capable of freely thinking?
Seek survival by using the very magicks that slaughtered them
That sound like it was intentional rather than by chance
how the hell are they better at necromancing themselves if calamitas (the most powerful necromancer in human history) cant fully bring back her brothers
Renegade meaning rebel, deserter, abandoning the norm essentially
maybe they used it in a last-ditch effort to survive during cal and brimmy's clash?
What I’m thinking yeah
if they used the necromancy on themselves before they died, differently rules could apply
alright your opinions, do you believe draedon is evil?
evil, no, amoral, yes
no he is actually pretty neutral
Using black or forbidden magic would definitely be rebellious
And I gotta cross reference something one sec
everything that draedon did he could easily undo
my bad i meant to say this was a perfect explaination
This can be easily assumed as true then yeah
Zamn that sent late
Finger pointing at viewer
do you guys think yharon is evil
Calamitas really loves making fucked up body horror
Also what's the entry for supreme soul seekers
i wonder if there was a similarly heretical group that contributed to brimmy awakening?
given her bestiary entry states that some believe it was an intentional plot
Could be yeah
i guess in a way
but it's mostly because of revenge
because of the cruel slaughtering of his kind
so he kinda has a good reason for it
i think yharon has an understandable reason to feel so wronged by and loatheful of the gods, but not a reasonable justification for genocide
that can't really exist
i think that was mostly yharims idea honestly..
idk for sure
yharon was the one who told yharim everything about what happened
at least, originally, he probably could have found more information over the century-ish of his crusade
but nothing notable enough to shake him from his beliefs evidently
it wasn't just two gods
ik
he, allegedly, ate many many gods
where is this mentioned?
do you mean braelor and statis?
yes
they werent eaten
the fight also took place pretty recently, way after he recruited him
wdym
they dueled yharim and almost killed him, however DoG quickly snatched them into a portal and took them to the distortion
and statis then made a deal with signus to get out
that is so strange, i didnt think there were any characters other than the player actually capable of almost killing yharim
granted this was younger yharim
he does mention braelor being one of the strongest people he met
so he grows in strength as he ages
when he talks about people that could potentially kill providence
or do you mean in terms of lack fo experience and skill
it was before he departed to the dragon's aerie
and he trained a fuckton there
so he's stronger now than when he fought braelor
when did that happen
are we talking a little or alot
we dunno exactly, but not long before the game starts
hard to say
he trains in dragons aerie...
we dont know how strong braelor was/is, so we cant really tell how much he grew in strength
we just know he's at his peak right now
so who was braelor, was he an advisor?
no he was a god follower
or something like that
ohh
so he was just a random person who followed the gods and wanted to just stop yharim or wtv
makes much more sense now
isnt silva still stuck at the bottom of yharims prison?
by duel do you mean as in hand to hand or was it a swordsman duel. of course duel can mean many things but honestly wondering how far braelor was going
jumped yharim is crazy, where was yharon 💀
not there i guess
maybe yharim told him to not come
since to yharim, yharon's life was more valuable
yeah right
did yharim send yharon after the player or did yharon do it himself
if he truly cared he would've stopped yharon knowing what the player is capable of
yharon did it himself
it would be interesting to learn more of yharon's role in the crusade, particularly outside of battling gods (assuming he took part in that)
yharim will die in a few years eventually anyway
i know some people told me not to take the song lyrics so specifically but the idea of yharon saying "or was that all your intention" (in growing the players strength)
or just letting them do whatever
you can take the lyrics mostly seriously
they're canon
yharon singing during the fight isnt but the lyrics are canon
i got alot of lore reading to do
could be interpreted as yharim wanting the terrarian to be strong enough to finish the crusade in his place
there's a document in the pins if you wanna make it easier on yourself
i figured
so yharon states that the player is capable of butchering yharim... but calamitas speaks as if shes doubting the player
sorta contradicting
calamitas doesnt really know how strong yharim is at that point
yharon knows very well
i see
calamitas hasn't seen yharim in god knows how long
around a decade
yeah a decade sounds a bit right
how old is calamitas, if yharim is 120-130 then how old is she?
sometimes I forget like, the game doesn't actually take that long after alot of the major history events
she's in her 20s when you meet her
by the end of the game or the clone?
end of the game
so she was 12-16 when recruited



