lore-discussion

[solar wharf]

ig scarifice doesnt always mean equivalent exchange

[jaunty wraith]

You must be the sacrifice for the crows in extange for your transgression

[warm gull]

dragon of commerce

[north wigeon]

Dragon of Mercantilism doesn't have the same ring to it

sad

[pliant ruin]

dragon of corporations

[mighty zenith]

sacrifice just means giving up something you value for something else

[north wigeon]

Dragon of Consumerism

[mighty zenith]

or offering something to a deity due to religion

not even necessarily killing

just offering

[sturdy current]

dms?

[north wigeon]

true

so from this i would assume he's kinda whatever

[wheat walrus]

What

[mighty zenith]

sacrifice isnt blatantly evil, unlike smth like
gluttony

[north wigeon]

some good some bad

[wheat walrus]

After dinner maybe

[jaunty wraith]

Obviously there are evil gods like Providence and the ones who made up the corruption/crimson

[north wigeon]

yknow what maybe yharim was right actl...

[jaunty wraith]

But to lump them all in to that category to justify your killing them... Yharim's one to talk about "compliment in genocide"

[north wigeon]

can we slay the god of capitalism and stop it irl

[warm gull]

dragon of communism

[pliant ruin]

fo real....

[jaunty wraith]

The battle between the god of capitalism and communism! This battle will be legendary

[warm gull]

dragon of communism turns into the god of authoritarian dictatorships because the domains are adjacent

[jaunty wraith]

Probably one of the evil gods that make up the world evils

[warm gull]

why didn't yharim just slay the god of authoritarian dictatorships and delete the concept of authoritarian dictatorships from existence is he stupid

actually what the fuck does a domain even do

domains don't vanish when the god who holds it dies

and it isn't like there are any set rules for what a conceptual domain lets you rule

so like

wtf does a domain even do

[jaunty wraith]

Probably like imperialism, there's no way there wasn't infighting within the gods

They're gonna end up stepping on each other's toes eventually

[warm gull]

and for most gods, killing the dragon and ascending deleted the dragon's domain and replaced it with a new one, so there is just a bunch of domains that are empty now

like seriously

what the fuck does a domain actually mean

[sturdy current]

cuz yharim is dictator himself lolz

[livid bobcat]

Ok so

I'm planning to run a ttrpg game (problably warforger or a more rules light system) based on Calamity lore, set right before yharim inducted calamitas into his war.

Any tips or advice? Notable events around that time/lore I should emphasize or understand better?

I can handle the mechanics and gameplay, but I want to know more about what the world was like at that time

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/based-kneel-dark-souls-gif-24182729

[north wigeon]

what an honor

[warm gull]

but-but the free makret... 😔

[north wigeon]

CEOs blabbering about the economy while i drive a blade into their stomach

[livid bobcat]

Anything?

[pliant ruin]

At the point calamitas joined his army the crusade had already been happening for some time

Also azafure's destruction would've happened then

[mighty zenith]

it depends at what point before her recruitment

cause it either means azafure is still standing or its gone already

[pliant ruin]

Illmeris's incineration was a good while after that so i imagine either Yharim hadn't waged war with them yet or the war had only recently started

[hoary berry]

i wish i was in a writing mood because earlier today i had what i think were a few really cool scenes regarding the build up to my terrarian's battle with yharim

but my brain doesn't fancy putting any of it down on paper or in a doc

[warm gull]

calamitas was only part of yharim's crusade for the very VERY end of it

like

it was going on for 50 years at the least most likely

[pliant ruin]

yeah

she joined really recently

[warm gull]

and she was only a part of it for 2

[livid bobcat]

I was thinking taking the party there to see it happen

I might change or adjust some lore to fit dnd, especially with things that are left vague

[pliant ruin]

inb4 they meet calamitas before the brimstone elemental awakens

[livid bobcat]

How old was she then, do we know?

[pliant ruin]

wow what a joyous family! i'm sure those brothers must love their little sister alot! i hope nothing bad happens to them!

[pliant ruin]

not very old

there's no single canon age but

according to some dev statments probably like, 12 or something

[livid bobcat]

Noted

Is there a time gap between that and yharim coming in to recruit her

None of my players have any knowlege of terraria or calamity whatsoever

[mighty zenith]

it was probably a couple of days, if i had to guess

[pliant ruin]

After the incineration i'd imagine she joined yharim's army almost immediately

yeah

[livid bobcat]

I wanna see if I can make him a twist villain of sorts, the pcs just come from ignorant rural backgrounds

[mighty zenith]

maybe his scouts came in to look around what happened and found her

then they brought her to yharim

[pliant ruin]

ah so like

[livid bobcat]

Or maybe make him so that they start sympathetic to his cause/working for him?

[pliant ruin]

they wouldn't know about the crusade?

[livid bobcat]

Or they would only know what yharim wants the populace to know

[pliant ruin]

yharim is the king of propaganda mansplaining gaslighting so honestly its very reasonable for them to not immediately realize he's a genocidal maniac

there'd probably be propaganda everywhere making it seem like hes a hero

[livid bobcat]

That's what I was thinking yeah

[mighty zenith]

except in god-ruled places

[livid bobcat]

That's the goal

[cloud ibex]

i was about to say he'd probably have golden statues of himself in azafure but

[pliant ruin]

no that's right. he would.

[cloud ibex]

honestly i feel like he'd more likely not in favor of something like statues of dragons

[pliant ruin]

okay yea. he would.

that's even more like him

[cloud ibex]

cause that would make him seem more humble or whatever, putting his own idols (the dragons) above himself

[livid bobcat]

I guess I'd need to know

What would the average life of someone living in or around yharims lands be like?

Assuming they aren't soldiers

Farmers, mercenaries, merchants and the like

[pliant ruin]

I'd imagine there'd be alot of surveillance to make sure nobody opposed his ideals in some way

Those that did fully believe his ideology probably had very good lives

[mighty zenith]

think like nazi germany honestly

maybe with less just overall terror on average people

[pliant ruin]

Those that were suspected of not believing them though probably were not doing very well

[mighty zenith]

but a TON of oppression on specific groups

[pliant ruin]

Honestly i was just going to say

USA

but replace ''white straight guys" with "yharim followers"

[livid bobcat]

Do we have any idea how many people lived under his rule

I know in the tale of a cruel world music video said millions die bit That's old lore I think right

[cloud ibex]

i don't think we do but we have rough a rough dev estimate for how many people died during the crusades

think the number ended at 120 million at the highest

[graceful otter]

iirc current crags are just the outskirts, so do with that how you will

[mighty zenith]

yeah azafure was... quite huge

[livid bobcat]

What was azurfures relationship with yharim before that?

[mighty zenith]

their government was 100% on his side

he says they asked him to champion their anti-god cause

[livid bobcat]

Interesting

[livid bobcat]

Tbh I imagine yharim as very lex Luthor ish

Powerful, manipulative, controlling, has a vendetta against inherently powerful beings that he believe are undeserving

[random mulch]

also bald

[fervent quest]

we all know it's a wig

he can't hide it from us

[livid bobcat]

Lol

Difference being that while Luther opposes a good man and has monetary power, yharim opposes Grey to evil beings and is also physically powerful

[random mulch]

gods arent just grey to evil, they can be good

[solar wharf]

there were good gods

[livid bobcat]

Like silva right

We're any other named ones good

[random mulch]

otonilou

[livid bobcat]

What's the lore there?

[mighty zenith]

the goddess of electricity and one of the illmeris gods

she's described as benevolent

[livid bobcat]

Interestinf

I should problably study up the lore doc

Is all that found there

[mighty zenith]

should be

[hoary berry]

everything but dev statements can be found in the main lore doc

[mighty zenith]

since its in-game info

[livid bobcat]

Where can I find dev statements if anywhere

[solar wharf]

you mostly ask here

i dont think there is a doc for it

[hoary berry]

if i ever need to find one i just ctrl + f in this channel and spoiler talk

[hoary berry]

doesn't let you find everything, but it works for the most part

[graceful otter]

stipulatevenus usually reveals the most info, and interacts the most here, though cei2279 and hagurihat has also revealed lore. theres a couple more writers, and other devs that are closely involved with it (like the artsists) who sometimes reveal, but thats very rare

usually all dev statements are in this discord tho

[pliant ruin]

otonilou was described as a saint and tyrian was also benevolent and the hallow exists

providence is evil as hell

slime god is ??????????

silva is also ?????????

so yeah gods aren't really defined by a specific moral allignment

[graceful otter]

@livid bobcat just one thing. you dont need to follow the lore 1:1, nor do you only need to pull from it. its fine to make your own stuff, as long as its realistic within the world

[livid bobcat]

Right, I just wanna stay mostly faithful since that way there's less to keep track of

I'll fill in gaps where things are vague and unknown though, having things up to interpretation is something I like, but players like answers

I tried homebrewing a bunch of lore for a one shot and it crashed and burned so bad lol

[trail zodiac]

my headcanon is that yharim is actually a dragon and yharon is a draedon

[hoary berry]

scal is just an oddly shaped despair stone

[pliant ruin]

my headcanon is that yharim is actually joe biden

[mighty zenith]

something canon cant be a headcanon

[thick slate]

old man

yharim should run for president

hes the right age

[random mulch]

the ripe old age of "going to collapse any second"

[unborn anvil]

Im ngl I feel like nobody would want to oppose Yharim if he ran for president

Like if I was running for president and my opponant was wearing presumably armour made from a Gods soul I'd just walk out

[random mulch]

they'd be afraid that he would cave their face in

[mighty zenith]

so basically armstrong

[warm gull]

Hey at least yharim is literate

[unborn anvil]

Wait was it Draedon who ended up not talking to Yharim or did Yharim just get too afraid of Draedon

[random mulch]

yharim got really fucking pissed at draedon and stormed out and draedon kinda didnt give a shit

[hoary berry]

and then yharim came crawling back for that exo upgrade

[pliant ruin]

yharim kicked draedon out and then draedon was like "ok" and kept doing the same things he did before

the chad draedon vs the virgin yharim or something like that

[thick slate]

build robot

inventor of exo mech

inventor of autism

[unborn anvil]

Y'all think Yharim wakes up daily to 50 notifications from Draedon, of the same repeated message for the past 20 years

[random mulch]

draedon didnt give the slightest shit that yharim didnt want to talk to him

[unborn anvil]

Wow thank you Draedon "Autism" Calamity!

[devout grotto]

Is there a specified number of years since Yharim started his reign or not?

[pliant ruin]

yeah no draedon just didnt care in the slightest

[unborn anvil]

"hey"
"hey"
"hey"
"dude i literally told you to fuck off leave me alone"
"yeah but i dont give two shits man"

[devout grotto]

Kind of curious about it

[pliant ruin]

haha reign of yharim. reference

anyways i don't think there's a exact clear time ? but

the crusade lasted for a really long time, almost 100 years iirc

yharim started it sometime around his 30s if i remember correctly?

[random mulch]

yharim's old as hell

[pliant ruin]

and now he's over 100

[mighty zenith]

yharim's reign start. of

[pliant ruin]

somewhere around 100-110

and he's gonna die soon of old age so

[devout grotto]

Gotcha

[mighty zenith]

i believe he was in his mid 20s

[unborn anvil]

If Yharim used Whatsapp 😂
No messages from anyone as they've blocked him, Draedon not giving two shits about Yharim ignoring him, Terrarian trying to ask for his coordinates (Yharim doesnt know how to use a phone, give him a while to figure it out and thats why hes not a fightable boss yet)

[mighty zenith]

and if he's in his 130s rn

then its been like 90-100 years

[mighty zenith]

I NEED cock yharim - the mech bosses

[devout grotto]

Alright, thanks

[unborn anvil]

[pliant ruin]

If Yharim used Whatsapp 😂
Yharon: Hey i'm at the store do you want anything
Calamitas: Kys
Permafrost: Kys
DoG: i NEED divine essence yharim
Braelor: Kys
Statis: Kys
Xeroc: Kys
Draedon: Last seen online 10 years ago

[unborn anvil]

Calamitas would keep sending him death threats daily

[pliant ruin]

braelor and statis would have matching pfps also

[unborn anvil]

True lol

[random mulch]

xeroc's pfp would just be white

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah one more thing, is there a timeline of events?

I kinda wanna have something to follow through too

[random mulch]

draedon spilled some beans about a timeline but a lot of the specific details arent known

[devout grotto]

Alright then

[livid bobcat]

A timeline would be so nice

[livid bobcat]

He's just like me fr

[thick slate]

we know the rough order of events

but not when they occured

[livid bobcat]

Is that visualized anywhere

[thick slate]

dont think so

[livid bobcat]

Rough

[hoary berry]

your best bet is probably draedon dialogue

that's where most of our dates are from, if not all

other timeline information lacks dates and is more vague

[devout grotto]

Gotcha 🗒️

[frozen zodiac]

no actually i think she would block him completely and forget about him eventually or if she wants to harm him go directly to him

[unborn anvil]

She straight up acknowledges the fact that she'd be killed if she tried the second one

Also theres no forgetting for her, victims of abuse don't exactly like forget their abusers

[frozen zodiac]

yeah that was poor wording on my part...

maybe she just doesnt like to think about him

[sturdy wing]

so like uh

what is providence supposed to be

is she like

a moth

[hushed geyser]

A rock

The rock

Zee rock

Zeroc

Xeroc

It's all coming together

[thick slate]

fire rock

[warm gull]

deep rock

[sturdy wing]

so like shes just a flaming rock

like what is her anatomy im so confused

[cloud ibex]

flaming rock moth with roots and a crystal core

[pliant ruin]

I don't think she has a anatomy to speak of

She's not really a ''natural" creature as with all gods, so

Tho tbf not all gods look as bizzare as her, some like Silva barely change from their pre-ascencion form

But then you have someone like slime god that just turned into a weird ball goop creature after ascending

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick slate]

xeroc got turned into a symbol

[pliant ruin]

xeroc got turned into a voice that talks to you during boss rush and then gives you a rock

🙏

[ocean skiff]

Rock

[warm gull]

xeroc is the sun

[unborn anvil]

I just like the idea that Xeroc does have an ascended form but it's just a formless entity

Literally just a hitbox

[untold bluff]

I think that the further you distance yourself from humanity as a being, the more shapeless and inhuman you become physically as a god

[pliant ruin]

That might be the case yeah

Providence is a evil bastard so

But slime god probably isn't and they're like

a ball

so idk whats up with that

[humble folio]

Is there art of ascended Silva?

Or is she just, the roots of the abyss

[pliant ruin]

Ye

It's in the official concept art thinjgy in pins

[humble folio]

Holup

In the lore pins?

[pliant ruin]

ye

.

a bunch of official character art here

[frozen zodiac]

i really like the ocean ones

[humble folio]

Nice

[sinful adder]

Silva looked like a human mostly, with plant stuff, basically like the dryad

Then she got torn to pieces and thrown into the abyss like the Greek titan

[stray falcon]

Slime god considers itself a force that keeps the world in balance, I’d say that’s pretty far from being human. Distancing yourself from humanity doesn’t necessarily mean you’re evil.

[sinful adder]

I think the human-ness is related instead to how much your soul conflicts with the dragon soul

[pliant ruin]

Fair point actually

[stray falcon]

wait what did Slime God do before Yharim’s crusades?

If the slime god contains the corruption and crimson to keep the world in balance, what did it do before those biomes existed?

Did slime god just exist neutrally and then took up the job of balancing shit after it noticed crusade thing?

[pale mango]

Is calamitas British?

Serious question

[gusty zenith]

does Britain even exist in terraria?

[pliant ruin]

Real answer: She might have a british accent but she also might not

My answer:

NO SHE ISNT LEAVE HER ALONE

[pale mango]

Also, what even is the ravager, is it like some homunculus of war?

[pliant ruin]

a dead god

[pale mango]

Oh

Let me guess, yharim?

[pliant ruin]

one that's been brought back to life but in a really crappy way so it's barely functional as a living being now

and all it can really do in terms of Functioning is killing things

[pliant ruin]

yeah he killed him

[pale mango]

Makes sense

[pliant ruin]

we don't know much about ravager (aka god of sacrifices) before being revived

[pale mango]

Oh so that’s what they were the god of

[pliant ruin]

they do kind of just kill things right now but keep in mind that's because. well. it's kind of a husk atp

it's plausible that GoS might've not been evil while alive

[pale mango]

What’s the lore behind drsgonfolley?

Dragon

[pliant ruin]

though currently we just don't have enough info to know

[pliant ruin]

Alongside Fishrons and Eidolon Wyrms it's related to Auric Dragons but isn't an actual auric dragon

it's kind of just a really strong species of wild animal

It dosen't have the same auric souls that dragons had

[gusty zenith]

They're just like descendants right?

[pale mango]

Oh, so like those alpha Pokémon from legends arceus

[pliant ruin]

relatives more so but yeah

[pale mango]

So dragonfolley is just “big strong birb”

[pliant ruin]

basically

[gusty zenith]

Just like Pokémon

[pale mango]

I have a feeling if there was a video explaining all the calamity lore in a way anyone can understand, it would be several hours long

Probably like 4-7

[gusty zenith]

Probably like an hour at most honestly

it's not like reading a storybook or novel

[pale mango]

Also what’s up with the biome blade?

Like why does it exist, who made it, and how does it do the things it does?

[pliant ruin]

kind of funny to think there's a entire species of giant bird creatures in the jungle that are seemingly canonically stronger than:
-every single elemental minus silva
-moon lord (which to be fair, he's weakened, but even then)
-plaguebringer goliath, which is a bio weapon of mass destruction that singlehandedly is spreading a killer plague throughout a biome

[pliant ruin]

its just a weapon, you make it

[pale mango]

But like the broken biome blade

Any lore there?

[pliant ruin]

no not really

[pale mango]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

its just a funky weapon

[pale mango]

So who’s Silva

All I know is they died

[pliant ruin]

goddess of life and also the nature elemental

[pale mango]

And their remains get spread around the world

[pliant ruin]

she's technically not dead because she's immortal

[gusty zenith]

I think they have something to do with the abyss right

[pliant ruin]

but she's also currently uh

Unavailable ™️

she got ''killed" and her body was dumped in the abyss

[gusty zenith]

Like it's their territory?

[pliant ruin]

so right now she's technically

dead

but

not really

[pale mango]

During making a world, one of the test popups says “spreading silva’s remains”

[pliant ruin]

because her body will reconstruct itself eventually. it'll just take. some time

her consciousness is still there, it's just that she dosen't really

have a body

give her like a decade and she'll be back to normal probably

[gusty zenith]

A decade is pretty fast in terms of history

[pale mango]

So is like nameless deity canon?

[pliant ruin]

no

no addons are

[pale mango]

Ok

I mean not being canon makes sense for infernum

It’s just a gameplay mod

[pliant ruin]

addons are fanmade so

[pale mango]

Although it does add that thing in the bottom right of the world

[pliant ruin]

Also since silva was dumped in the abyss her influence is kinda spreading there

[gusty zenith]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

She's the reason the abyss is so

quote on quote

''alive"

like realistically such a deep enviroment wouldnt support anything beyond like

[gusty zenith]

it's spooky o.O

[pliant ruin]

tiny fish and crabs

but thanks to silva's existence it can actually have like

big stuff

and a more active ecosystem

[gusty zenith]

big worm..

Jared..

[pliant ruin]

she's also the reason jared is jared

kind of

primordial wyrm was already Really Strong due to being. well. The oldest eidolon wyrm on the planet

but it got Stronger because silva adopted it as her pet goldfish blessed it

[pale mango]

So what is yharims status?

[pliant ruin]

Alive

[pale mango]

Should we call the police to do a wellness check?

[pliant ruin]

He's just kind of depressed

[pale mango]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

But he kind of deserves it so

[sturdy wing]

did very bad things

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[pale mango]

I think his parents died at a young age, right?

[pliant ruin]

some very bad things

[sturdy wing]

but also he likes bees so :))

[pliant ruin]

nah

[gusty zenith]

Who exactly is the choir speaking to in Stained Brutal Calamity ?

[pliant ruin]

that's old lore

[pale mango]

Oh

Ok

What’s the new lore

[pliant ruin]

stained brutal calamity kind of is like

barely canon

[sturdy wing]

wait like what all did he do? like i know he killed gods and stuff but it was lowkey desereved

[gusty zenith]

huh

[pliant ruin]

because the lyrics were built for old lore and stuff

[sturdy wing]

i think

[pliant ruin]

the gods didn't really

deserve it

[gusty zenith]

I assumed it was like a narration of what is going on currently

[pliant ruin]

he commited genocide

on the gods and their people

regardless of whether a god was benevolent or not, he killed them all the same

[sturdy wing]

I mean they totally killed the dragons though

[pliant ruin]

yeah but

that's not necessarily bad

[gusty zenith]

devourer is not a cool dude

[pale mango]

What lyrics?

[pliant ruin]

this is overwhelming

[sturdy wing]

why is that?

[pale mango]

Not once is there a word

[gusty zenith]

the lyrics to the scal theme

[pliant ruin]

where are my fellow lore nerds ot help me out here

[gusty zenith]

they have lyrics ...

[pliant ruin]

Alot of reasons

1. Not all dragons were good

[gusty zenith]

What do you mean you don't know it 1:1 by heart ⁉️ /j

[eager bluff]

yharim has a flawed perspective

[pliant ruin]

It's more so just that

there's alot of people asking questions

and i cn't keep up

[pale mango]

This lore is epic

[sturdy wing]

its ok dawg im gonna go play deep rock galactic

rock and stone

[pliant ruin]

2. The dragons didn't get genocided in the same manner gods did: There wasn't a single group of people who organized to kill them all

Different people, most of which didn't even know eachother, killed dragons for their own personal goals

[eager bluff]

his only exposure to the gods history was from an extremely biased viewpoint (yharons)

[pliant ruin]

Whilst someone could've killed a dragon for a malicious role, someone lese might've had a good reason to do so

[pale mango]

I might need a refresh on some of the newer lore

[languid badge]

Is calamitas more of a wizard, a warlock, or a sorcerer

[pale mango]

Devourer of gods, he was a space worm, all I know

[pliant ruin]

Dragons basically going extinct is bad

But you shouldn't blame every god for it because some of them were straight up good people

[pale mango]

I think DoG was involved with yharim and his genocide

[gusty zenith]

Yea he isn't a nice dude

[rose swan]

Did dreydon kill any god? Or he so strong bcuz of german science or smthg

[sturdy wing]

he eats other gods and gives that power to noxus or whatever

[pliant ruin]

Draedon didn't kill any gods that we know of

He's just a engineer

not a fighter

[pale mango]

Like noxus from the mod that adds nameless deity?

[gusty zenith]

and a robot I think

[pliant ruin]

He was a part of Yharim's army

[sturdy wing]

draedon is actually so epic

[pliant ruin]

That one isn't canon

[calm patio]

no

[pliant ruin]

Noxus is an actual canon character in calamity mod

[pale mango]

Oh ok

[pliant ruin]

But Noxus from WOTG is

not that Noxus

[pale mango]

Ok

[pliant ruin]

it's another character entirely

[sturdy wing]

noxus is like the god of what exactly

[pliant ruin]

he's not a god

[gusty zenith]

Remember addons aren't canon

[pliant ruin]

he's. something

[sturdy wing]

oh

[pale mango]

Ok but is the freaky EoC resource pack canon?

[pliant ruin]

he's from the distortion and he's really powerful and nobody knows jackshit about him

also DoG is working for him

[calm patio]

No

that resource pack is shit

whoever actually made it should be beaten with hammers

[gusty zenith]

Wait DoG works for someone or something? I thought he was like a selfish solo kinda guy

[pliant ruin]

yeah

DoG works for Noxus

[gusty zenith]

interesting

does that make Noxus even more of a douche than DoG or is it just DoGs personality

[sturdy wing]

he would prob never admit to that though

[pliant ruin]

He's selfish in the sense he dosen't give 2 fucks about yharim or his crusade or his hatred for gods he just joined his army because it means he gets to eat divine essence and get free armor

[sturdy wing]

i would like to think noxus is the ultimate edgelord

[gusty zenith]

do we know what bosses might be coming in the future of the mod or is that unclear

[pliant ruin]

ye

[sturdy wing]

do yall think divine essence is tasty

[pliant ruin]

-yharim

[gusty zenith]

something to do with a subworld?

[pliant ruin]

also maybe xeroc and noxus

but they're only a Maybe ™️

[eager bluff]

yharim, potentially xeroc and noxus

[sturdy wing]

we have the design for xeroc though! at least his first form

[gusty zenith]

oh yesss

[sturdy wing]

hes just a guy lowkey

nothing like wotg

[pliant ruin]

it's pre-ascencion xeroc yeah

[gusty zenith]

what's the name of that place dog comes from again

[pliant ruin]

distortion

[calm patio]

im pretty sure thats the concept art of xeroc

[gusty zenith]

yeye

[pliant ruin]

noxus lives there, storm weaver also comes from there, signus can seemingly enter that place at will

[gusty zenith]

is it true we might be getting a distortion subworld or something?

[pliant ruin]

ye

[gusty zenith]

:o

[eager bluff]

yes ! because wotg is not official
and the concept art that is public is for specifically xeroc before he became a god

[gusty zenith]

that's so cool

[eager bluff]

not might, we will

[sturdy wing]

wait so is statis more powerful than the slimegod which they worship? because like we know that brelor and statis hold yharim to a standstill, and slime god is prehardmode so

whats the deal with that

[gusty zenith]

I always make my messages on the fence by using the words might so I don't sound like an idiot when I'm wrong :]

[pliant ruin]

braelor was the main focus of that fight for yharim

statis was more so just supporting him

but tbf

[sturdy wing]

oh is he there for emotional support

good on him

[pliant ruin]

it's not like statis (or onyx kinsmen in general) worshipped slime god because it was strong

so

[gusty zenith]

What does ascension mean?

[pliant ruin]

i think its plausible that statis was legit stronger than his own god

[pliant ruin]

turning into a god

[sturdy wing]

that would be CRAZY

[eager bluff]

statis is stronger than slime god yes, but still worships it because of its role in protecting the balance of nature

[sturdy wing]

oh holy moly

so its like his baby :))

[pliant ruin]

yeah the onyx kinsmen worshipped slime god because of its role/moral compass not because of its strenght

becaues being real here for a god slime god fucking sucks in terms of power

he got like the shittiest soul of them all and he also actively makes himself weaker

[eager bluff]

*when compared to other gods

[pliant ruin]

well yeah thats what i said

for a god

he's def still strong generally speaking

[eager bluff]

oh i edited that out of my brain

[pliant ruin]

but for a god he's like, one of the weakest if i had to guess

[gusty zenith]

Would that mean having pre ascension version of a character mean "so imagine this but as a god or something" lol im not entirely sure what that means here

[eager bluff]

one of if not the weakest

[pliant ruin]

pre-ascencion is before they turned into a god

like

when they were a human

[eager bluff]

or elemental in silvas case

[pliant ruin]

or a fish person in otonilous case

when they were a generally humanoid sapient creature

[gusty zenith]

Does that mean we will be seeing that in-game or is it just for lore purposes?

[languid badge]

Why is braelor considered sivas champion doesn’t paladin fit their description better

[pliant ruin]

probably just for lore

[visual kiln]

biome

[gusty zenith]

Oh ok

[pliant ruin]

hiiii aza,,,

[visual kiln]

omg haiiiiiiiiiiiii

helloo

[pliant ruin]

hihihih

[pliant ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

potato tomato

[gusty zenith]

this person likes being silly in my dms

sned help !!

[pliant ruin]

devs probably wanted to use the term champion because it's more encompassing

calling statis a ''paladin" wouldn't make much sense

[languid badge]

Fair

[sturdy wing]

statis is a healer totally

he a combat MEDIC

[visual kiln]

u seem cool ur my bestie now 🔫

[pliant ruin]

ye she does that

[languid badge]

Crimulan slime champion

[pliant ruin]

i meow in her dms sometimes

[eager bluff]

they're interchangeable but champion is more accurate than paladin, generally there are multiple paladins of gods whereas theres only one champion

[visual kiln]

plumg

[pliant ruin]

can u confirm aza

[sturdy wing]

wait what is Brealors statis currently

isnt he dead

[pliant ruin]

statis is alive

braelor is also alive but inside the distortion

statis is chillin though

well

maybe not chillin

given his boyfriend is stuck in the distortion

but he's alive

[sturdy wing]

i thought statis was the one who struck a deal with signus

[eager bluff]

and missing 2 of his limbs

[sturdy wing]

woops

[pliant ruin]

ye

he did

[visual kiln]

ya

[pliant ruin]

he traded a arm and a leg (literally) for getting out of the distortion

so now hes in the overworld and has prosthethics

braelor is still in the distortion though

[gusty zenith]

is the distortion kinda like the upside down but for calamity

[pliant ruin]

nya

[sturdy wing]

why diddnt he trade all of his limbs to get his bf out to

silly stais

[pliant ruin]

i like to imagine it was a faustian bargain

like

statis thought braelor was gonna get out too

but signus was like

nuh uh

and only got him out

it'd fit in with statis actually asking you to kill signus

which is planned

because statis will give you quests and the final quest apparently will be to hunt down and kill signus

[sturdy wing]

I like to think that signus thinks dog is so cool so he copies his cockiness

just a little goof

[pliant ruin]

thats a funny headcanon i like it

[sturdy wing]

ty!!!

[pliant ruin]

signus is #1 devourer fanboy and also the only damn person in the cast that actually takes him seriously because nobody else does lo

[languid badge]

Braelor being alive is still kinda funny to me because it means the distortion is close enough to our world that it supports human life long term

[sturdy wing]

so is ceaseless void like a fly??? they have like bug wings

[pliant ruin]

To be fair

He hasn't been in there very long

[pliant ruin]

CV is just a portal to the distortion

[eager bluff]

a portal

[pliant ruin]

The sprite is just kind of weird

probably being changed whenever CV gets its inevitable rework

[sturdy wing]

oh... so he isnt like a guy? its just a thing???

[pliant ruin]

yeah it's just

a portal

not sentient

or well

alive

[sturdy wing]

that can attack you?

for some reason?

[pliant ruin]

i like to think it isn't actually attacking you

it'sj ust like

[sturdy wing]

just eating

[pliant ruin]

a chaotic portal full of unstable energy

[sturdy wing]

bro is HUNGRY

[gusty zenith]

I think ceaseless void was created by dog since the portals he creates are super unstable or smth

[pliant ruin]

i kind of wish it wasn't a boss tbh because ''attacking" a potal is weird

[gusty zenith]

yeah

[eager bluff]

it was not

[pliant ruin]

it was most definitely made by noxus

[gusty zenith]

I don't like that boss fight either

[sturdy wing]

it predates dog i belive

[gusty zenith]

oh

[eager bluff]

dog claims he made it but hes bullshitting

[gusty zenith]

why is he a servant then?

[gusty zenith]

Ohh

I didn't know

[pliant ruin]

DoG tries lying to yharim saying ''yeah i made that" but yharim is like "no u fucking didnt" and dog is "no man trust me i totally did" and yharim just goes "fuck off"

[eager bluff]

sentinels are no longer a thing

[pliant ruin]

none of them are servants anymore

old lore stuff

[eager bluff]

they're related by their connection to the distortion

[pliant ruin]

noxus was most likely the one who made ceaseless

it's much more advanced compared to DoG'S portals which are like, unstable and temporary

[sturdy wing]

also cv is like his hunger sw is because he a worm and signus is because hes edgy

i think

[languid badge]

I mean
Once all their needs are taken care of in the short term it becomes much easier to survive long term

[gusty zenith]

I've watched a whole deconstruction of the DoG themes and I've been now told it's all outdated 😭

[gusty zenith]

This is hilarious

[languid badge]

Anyway I want us to get to yharim and it turns out he’s been suffering from schizophrenia in the later years of his like

[pliant ruin]

one of dog's best character traits is that he LOOOVES manipulating people

....but he sucks at it and everyone calls out his bullshit

[gusty zenith]

true

[pliant ruin]

literally nobody takes him seriously itys so funny

hes so stupid

well ok hes not stupid

[gusty zenith]

Does that mean he lied when he called me delicious when he eats me

[pliant ruin]

all things considered hes very cunning

but like

[sturdy wing]

yeah but yharims a little bitch boy and decides to hire him to eat gods anyway

[pliant ruin]

hes so arrogant he probably dosent even realize how terrible he is at lying

[languid badge]

Doesnt yharim say he took advice from dog several times or something along those lines

[pliant ruin]

according to the tax collector

dog has a massive paycheck

or well

had

while in yharims army

whils this is obviously a funny joke quote

[sturdy wing]

what would he even use money for

[pliant ruin]

i like to imagine yharim hadning out paychecks to his employees

[sturdy wing]

he has no arms

[pliant ruin]

and then when he gets to dog its just like

[languid badge]

Paying off his debt to noxus duh

[sturdy wing]

do you think he just threw the gold in his gaping maw

[pliant ruin]

"please just take the money and leave i don't want to see your face for more than 5 seconds"

"i'm not proud of how much money i have to give you every month. i hate how good you are at your job. fuck you."

[sturdy wing]

I mean he is very good at his job

just a prick

[pliant ruin]

he is very good at it he kind of saved yharim from dying that one time

hes just a dick

[sturdy wing]

he did?

[pliant ruin]

yeah

statis and braelor

they like

[sturdy wing]

when the flizzy did that happen

[pliant ruin]

almost killed yharim

[sturdy wing]

OH

[pliant ruin]

probably would've killed him

but then dog ambushed them

and sent them to the distortion

[gusty zenith]

DoG was like

[sturdy wing]

how can you ambush someone when youre a giant fucking WORM

[gusty zenith]

you come out of the ground idfk

[sturdy wing]

dog!! destroy my enimies!! and my life is YOURS

[pliant ruin]

after this Incident yharim went to his ex after years of not talking to him to ask him for a cooler set of armor

[pliant ruin]

probably came from a portal or something

[sturdy wing]

true

[gusty zenith]

true ye

[pliant ruin]

this was like the most recent event in the lore i think

[sturdy wing]

yharim is just like kratos if you think about it

[pliant ruin]

because after this yharim asked draedon for his exo armor and him and yharom flew away to the aerie

and then the terrarian showed up

so braelor has been like

less than a month in the distortion probably

[sturdy wing]

is it true that auric armor has to be like tuned so like the armor that the terarian uses is like working against them?

[pliant ruin]

ye

[sturdy wing]

thats actually lit crazy

[pliant ruin]

yharim can wear it cuz

hes attuned to yharon

the terrarian can use it cuz

[sturdy wing]

wait it has to be attuned to someone?

[pliant ruin]

he makes a ''mock attunement" using soul fragmnets

[pliant ruin]

to a dragon yeah

[sturdy wing]

how does auric armor work

[calm patio]

put it this way

[pliant ruin]

dragons have auric souls so to wear auric armor you need ot be attuned with a dragon

or do it like the terrarian

[calm patio]

yea

that

[pliant ruin]

where u mock attune it to the souls fragments to make the ore think you're attuned

[sturdy wing]

oh

but isnt yharon dead??? or does he canonically come back to life everytime

the whole rebirth thing

[calm patio]

yharon comes back every decade

[gusty zenith]

Ah

[pliant ruin]

yharon is immortal yeah

[calm patio]

doesnt matter if yharon is dead, yharim will still be attuned

[pliant ruin]

unless someone consumes his soul which

[sturdy wing]

oh ok

[pliant ruin]

probably isn't happening

given everyone who knows how to do the ritual is like

dead

[gusty zenith]

good for him then

[pliant ruin]

or is yharim

which

well

you know.

well. there's silva and xeroc but

[sturdy wing]

so soul fragments are like, soul leftovers?

[pliant ruin]

i don't think. they're gonna tell you or anyone else how to do it.

[pliant ruin]

basically tiny flakes of the soul

[sturdy wing]

so what you're saying is

if I fight yharon enough

[pliant ruin]

yharon still has his soul, its just that some tiny flakes of it were lost and u use those to make the auric stuff

[sturdy wing]

i can become a god

[eager bluff]

no

[sturdy wing]

damn

[calm patio]

you dont know the ritual

[pliant ruin]

yeah you need the ritual

which only xeroc, silva and yharim know out of the Not Dead people

yharim isn't gonna tell you for. obvious reasons

[sturdy wing]

I see

[pliant ruin]

silva is kind of .unable to tell you even if she theoretically wanted to right now

xeroc probably wouldn't tell you either

[sturdy wing]

is xeroc like a prick too

or is he like cool

[pliant ruin]

i doubt he's too happy with the fact he kind of kickstarted the extinction of dragons, even if it wasn't his intention

we don't know much abt xeroc rn

but

he seems pretty chill.

[sturdy wing]

he seems to be chillin right now

i mean as much as you can be while youre a symbol in the skye

[pliant ruin]

yeah

he seems like at best a good guy and at worst just kind of neutral

doubt he's actually a bad person

[sturdy wing]

do you think he actually expected the terrarian to beat boss rush so he had to rummage around his creation pile and then he just gave him a useless rock

"uh... yeah i got something right... here! a rock! for you!"

[north wigeon]

"uhhhh why is the rock important? it's um, the FIRST rock! the first thing i made actually"

[sturdy wing]

20 bucks it is NOT

[spring helm]

it's actually an anti-yharim rock and you need it to beat yharim

[rotund shore]

Erm that’s actually old lore

[gusty zenith]

Oh btw, respawning isn't a canon mechanic right?

[north wigeon]

hell yeah Dwayne Johnson's gonna kick some yharim ass

[north wigeon]

what's new lore for it again

[north wigeon]

it's not
would be very silly and lower stakes if it were

[rotund shore]

It’s a rock from the dragon aerie that Xeroc took because uh fuck you

[north wigeon]

lol nice

[gusty zenith]

So that really means the terrarian has killed so many things and hasn't been killed for it once

Wild

considering how many times I've fallen into the devourers stomach that does amaze me

[rotund shore]

The terrarians strength is…confusing

[spring helm]

Where even the stone refused the course of time, there sat a monk

xeroc gave you the rock he sat on

[rotund shore]

Ew his butt particles are on it

[spring helm]

it's got his monk print on it

[north wigeon]

as a comment puts it, the terrarian is a hobo getting increasingly unbelievably jacked with steroids and gear forged from their enemies until they can throw hands with God himself

oh right
nameless version

pretend God himself is

the weaker new light god

[rotund shore]

Tbh I haven’t made any Headcanon for the terrarian, despite the fact that’s kind of the entire point of their character in calamity

[sturdy wing]

guys what IF!!! the terrarian is actually somehow a desendant of yharim and he has some part of yharons power and THATS why he can respawn /j

[spring helm]

no way yharim had sex

i refuse

[sturdy wing]

yharim totally banged dude

[north wigeon]

everyone and their mother rushing to kill me to nom my... terrarian soul for immortality

[rotund shore]

Yharim gave aroace vibes to me

[pliant ruin]

i dont rly have a headcanon for my terrarian

because its just a self insert

:p

[gusty zenith]

find it funny how usually birds eat worms and yharim hires a huge worm that eats gods in a war

[pliant ruin]

well

[spring helm]

Cheese Calamity

[gusty zenith]

wait is he a birb

[rotund shore]

I remember one person had the lore for their ranger playthrough be that the terrarian was a lifelike robot made by draedon for the sake of research, which I quite liked

[gusty zenith]

i just assumed

[rotund shore]

Yharim isn’t, yharon is bird adjacent

[gusty zenith]

Oh dang nvm

[spring helm]

Lesbianing her way to killing Yharim

[sturdy wing]

they literally stole my IDEA???

[gusty zenith]

I assumed yharim was a birb like yharon

[north wigeon]

"my magnum opus defeated my magna opera, insane"

[pliant ruin]

nah hes just a guy

[gusty zenith]

He's just a guy?!

[pliant ruin]

yeha just like

[rotund shore]

A like 9 foot tall guy but yeah

[pliant ruin]

a really strong guy

yeah

[gusty zenith]

Okay that's

really not what I expected

[pliant ruin]

yeah he's just a dude

big sword dude

[sturdy wing]

do you guys this yharim is stress eating right now

[spring helm]

Yharim
Race: guy
Power: Built Like That

[pliant ruin]

has cool armor

[gusty zenith]

Sounds cool

[sturdy wing]

he totally is

poor guy

[north wigeon]

so is he smart or is he dumb that one of his creations destroys the other

[gusty zenith]

I fw sword people

[north wigeon]

has yharim ever tried to throw hands with xeroc i wonder

[sturdy wing]

i dont think he can reach him

hes like in the sky

and is a symbol

[rotund shore]

I imagine yharim has contemplated it, but without his army, he’s aware he wouldn’t stand a chance

[north wigeon]

true

[pliant ruin]

anyways my terrarian is literally just my self insert so she'd probably just be really protective of calamitas to the point it'd probably make calamitas really confused and she'd get braelor back from the distortion and bring him to statis and pay for their date together because she loves seeing gay people being happy

[spring helm]

his ass is NOT beating xeroc

[pliant ruin]

also she'd throw the tax collector in lava

[north wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/based-kneel-dark-souls-gif-24182729

[sturdy wing]

do you think yharon would ever sacrifice himself to yharim so he could consume his soul and beat xeroc

[rotund shore]

Nah, yharim would refuse to accept that offer

[spring helm]

that is antithetical to everything yharim stands for

[rotund shore]

Yharim not absorbing yharons soul is like a key part of his character

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim wouldn't accept it

[sturdy wing]

yeah but like

what IF

[north wigeon]

unrelated but i'm building her a house in the forest with a brimstone flower garden cuz she said she liked those

[gusty zenith]

awww

[north wigeon]

my girl is getting Pampered after all she went through

[rotund shore]

If he did absorb yharons soul, he could probably throw hands with Xeroc and win

[gusty zenith]

she needs a hug

[spring helm]

if he trained for like 800 years

because xeroc did that

[rotund shore]

True, Xeroc has been training for awhileee

[sturdy wing]

i mean according to the power levels above he would not stand a CHANCE

maybe possible to beat noxus

[pliant ruin]

🙏

i'm gonna build cal a house in the snow biome alongside or next to perma's

i feel like cal would like the snow biome. she just has the vibe of someone who would like the snow + her dad is there

[gusty zenith]

I actually wanna do that after I do that fight yeah

[rotund shore]

YESSS, she needs to be with her funny ice dad

[north wigeon]

mine's actually a walking distance away from the infernum abandoned snow cabin i refurbished for permafrost lmao

i planned it all out

[rotund shore]

Permafrost seems like a massive homie

[pliant ruin]

he's probably like

the cool uncle

literally and metaphorically

[gusty zenith]

I have too many people in my astral-snow biome to do that 😅

[north wigeon]

he's So nice to be around

[sturdy wing]

why did he even joined yharims army

[pliant ruin]

he probably didn't know the actual goals of it or something like that

like

keep in mind

[gusty zenith]

He seems pretty chill 🥁

[rotund shore]

Honestly, at the start, yharims goal wasn’t that horrendous on paper, some gods ARE evil

[pliant ruin]

yharim started out killing evil gods as a way to convince people that he was a good guy

[rotund shore]

But clearly yharim went too far

[pliant ruin]

so permafrost probably thought

oh i'll help this guy get rid of the evil gods!

then he didn't stop at the evil gods

[north wigeon]

for sure, but she explicitly liked the forest so it's best i kept it in snow biome arm's reach

[gusty zenith]

Yeah she actually favours the forest

[pliant ruin]

i do think its important to note that yharim most definitely didn't like

[rotund shore]

Although we also just, don’t know very many evil gods

There’s uh, provi, but he didn’t even kill her

[pliant ruin]

start out good by killing evil gods and then was corrupted by power or whtaever

[rotund shore]

Plenty of gods we don’t know about in general, though

[pliant ruin]

yharim was bad from the getgo, he just started with the evil gods because

well

propaganda

[sturdy wing]

why diddnt yharim kill providence?

shes like

[pliant ruin]

he tried to

[sturdy wing]

a major bitch

[rotund shore]

Providence was too sneaky

[pliant ruin]

but she's sneaky yeah

[north wigeon]

i don't believe he was corrupted by power necessarily? he's just following through with the same goal he's ever had

[pliant ruin]

she's literally like

[sturdy wing]

shes a FLAMING ROCK

[north wigeon]

by his own biased logic all gods killed a dragon so every one of them is evil

[pliant ruin]

shows up
kills thousands of yharmy soldiers
disappears

[sturdy wing]

what is sneaky about that

[pliant ruin]

yeah exactly

[rotund shore]

But yeah if yharim could get his hands on provi she’d be as good as dead

[pliant ruin]

he wasn't corrupted, he just wanted to start with the evil gods because it'd be easier to make people believe he's good if his goals seem good initially

[rotund shore]

Damn good strategy, honestly

I wonder how long he and yharon just brainstormed that shit

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim, for how terrible he is, is incredibly good at manipulating others

it's scary

[sturdy wing]

does she like turn her fire off then whenever shes in range she does her fireball bullet hell

[north wigeon]

even hid away the good god corpses in the wof (accidentally really good worldbuilding)

[rotund shore]

Yharim is honestly an incredibly smart person, on top of his physical capabilities

[pliant ruin]

if i had to guess

she probably shows up out of thin air

[sturdy wing]

and he likes bees!

[pliant ruin]

sort of like a flame just

manifesting itself

and then when shes done killing yharim's soldiers she just

disappears much like how she just showed up, like a flame being extinguished

[north wigeon]

she emerges from the exact same cave she's always in

[sturdy wing]

thats so metal

also annoying

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim basically calls her annoying

[sturdy wing]

fuck providence im with yharim on this one

[pliant ruin]

provi is like

[rotund shore]

Yeah provi IS evil

Her goal is to basically just destroy everything

[pliant ruin]

singlehandedly the only character in the entire mod thats you could make a case for being as evil as yharim

she's a evil mf

[calm patio]

the mechanic snow cabin is a base cal thing

[north wigeon]

oh i wasn't aware, awesome

[sturdy wing]

dragonfolly gotta be evil dude

[rotund shore]

Yharim had atleast any amount of logic to the madness, provi is just evil very very evil

[sturdy wing]

theres something about him...

[north wigeon]

i just assumed most of the extra structures minus the shrines and the draedon labs and the planetoids to be inf xd

[sturdy wing]

something about IT...

[rotund shore]

Although yeah yharim is probably more evil just since he actually did all the things

[pliant ruin]

you could make a case for both

[north wigeon]

also it's for the mechanic?

[pliant ruin]

using the same exact sentence

[calm patio]

yes, on the wiki it says "Abanadonded mechanic snow cabin"

[pliant ruin]

ON ONE HAND
Provi wants to kill everyone and not a specific group, so she's more evil
ON THE OTHER HAND
Provi wants to kill everyone and not a specific group, so she's not as evil

[north wigeon]

ic

[pliant ruin]

you could literally make a case for both sides with the same exact reasonings

[north wigeon]

not an actual dragon (evil)

[sturdy wing]

if provi actually started going through with her whole burny plan she would prob be stoped by yharim within seconds

[pliant ruin]

tbh she kind of has started her plan already

her cult is like

massive

[sturdy wing]

nothing sneaky about burning stugg

[pliant ruin]

she's the only god left that has an actual following

if the terrarian hadn't killed her she could've legit been a massive threat

since yharim is more or less inactive by the time of the game

[sturdy wing]

does yharim like the terarian

[pliant ruin]

provi is imo the next worse thing

because

-incredibly evil motivation
-powerful
-has an actual massive following to back up her plans

most other characters lack atleast one of these traits

[rotund shore]

My brother once described yharims current state as thanos in avengers endgame

Which I feel is accurate as shit

[north wigeon]

he has to stop us ofc but like
he also considers us his successor

nah dawg i'm just not gonna tussle with xeroc

[sturdy wing]

why stop us?

[north wigeon]

we're homies like that

[sinful adder]

She isn't powerful enough to burn the entire world on her own or she would have done it already. Her followers however, they can help

[sturdy wing]

he doesnt really have a reason to

[north wigeon]

we're going to kill him

obviously

[pliant ruin]

yeah this

she's slowly building up an army

[sturdy wing]

id ask why but the reasoning for the terrarian doing anything is a mystery

[rotund shore]

Provi essentially has an army at her disposal, which seemingly next to nobody can say at this current state

I mean, yharims army seems pretty gone

[pliant ruin]

she could've legit started another crusade if she wasn't stopped by us in enough time

[north wigeon]

oh shit yeah

[rotund shore]

After we killed provi what are the cultists doing

[sturdy wing]

crying

[rotund shore]

Just, sitting around?

[sturdy wing]

i hope

[north wigeon]

he's kind of mostly done

[sturdy wing]

fuck provi

i hate fighting her

[north wigeon]

we're going to beat him with hammers

[pliant ruin]

I imagine that after you kill provi

canonically

[rotund shore]

I’m still coping that we get tyrant yharims’ ultisword as a yharim drop, I need it to return!!

[sturdy wing]

do we get to steal yharims stuff after we kill him

[pliant ruin]

all of the provi cultists/followers that turned themselves into profaned creatures die off

because well

the source of their power is gone

[north wigeon]

idk provi's a fun fight imo

[north wigeon]

yeah true

[pliant ruin]

the cultists that remained human probably are still out there

[sturdy wing]

no i think its fun! just... hard

really hard

especially in infurnum

[pliant ruin]

but without their goddess they will probably decrease in numbers through the ages and eventually the group as a whole will probably die out

[north wigeon]

oh yeah for sure

i keep getting carried in smps lmfao
even in infernum which you REALLY shouldn't be doing mp

[sturdy wing]

do you think at somepoint the terrarian would gain like a cult like following? is that what all the npcs are?

[north wigeon]

i like to think they're just there
they live in our towns and houses

[rotund shore]

I wonder how much of the general public even know about the terrarian

[north wigeon]

cuz some of the npcs CLEARLY don't give a shit abt us

[sturdy wing]

towns? houses? try npc prisons buddy 😈

[rotund shore]

Since the terrarian only stays on like, a pretty small island of this planet

[north wigeon]

i don't think they're cultists atp i think they're just our slaves

[pliant ruin]

kind of funny that like

everything ends up happening in this one continent

[rotund shore]

Also even if some stuff the terrarian does is important, such facts couldn’t be learnt by most

[rotund shore]

Yeah it’s so odd

[pliant ruin]

to be fair

[north wigeon]

oh what's over there? oh it's just vanilla terraria

[pliant ruin]

you could argue that alot of the bosses and characters came to the continent because of the terrarian to begin with

like

i think ti's reasonable that draedon's big lab probably is somewhere else

[north wigeon]

true

[pliant ruin]

and there's probably draedon things all throughout the planet

[rotund shore]

I kind of assumed draedon has a big ass lab hidden underground far far away

[sturdy wing]

I think by the time fovos is dead news has spread about the terrarian pretty damn far

[pliant ruin]

and i think it's fair to say provi or DoG per example probably came here specifically because of you

[sturdy wing]

because like thats a world level threat

[pliant ruin]

but at the same t ime

[sturdy wing]

everyones gonna know if fovos returns

[pliant ruin]

it's funny that we just so happen to be on the continent that:
-illmeris used to be in
-azafure used to be in
-the astral meteor falls in