#lore-discussion

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pliant ruin
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third is the one u fight ingame

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first is pre-ascencion

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second is after she ascended but

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different from ingame

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so if i had to guess

random mulch
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the 3 forms are pre-ascension, post-ascenion and current/in-game

pliant ruin
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she went a bit crazy and turned into what she is now somehow

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either that or smth else we dont know about yet

spring helm
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i thought she went crazy immediately after ascending tbh

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like something about the ritual went wrong and she snapped

pliant ruin
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i think if that was the case she'd already have been crazy before

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ehh

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i wouldn't like that

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having an actual character-driven motive for her to go insane is

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alot more interesting

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than just

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oh! the ritual went wrong! now she wants to kill everyone!

random mulch
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yeah... i dont think the average person is omnicidal

spring helm
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fair enough, that's just what i thought happened because i didnt know she was a sane goddess for a while

pliant ruin
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i like to think that there was like

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some sort of downwards spiral

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that she went through

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that eventually lead to her losing her sanity

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and going haha funny omnicide

spring helm
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well she killed the dragon of flame in righteous anger right?

pliant ruin
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yeah

warm gull
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Provi started out saying something about sinners or whatever when she ascended

pliant ruin
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and if my idea for these 3 forms is right

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then she'd theoretically not have gone insane then

spring helm
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maybe she went all "hero of justice" after ascending and just went on a downward spiral because it didn't work

warm gull
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Eventually decided everyone was sinners

pliant ruin
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HERO OF JUSTICE??? DOWNWARDS SPIRAL???

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REFERENCE

spring helm
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became more and more obsessed with writing the wrongs of the world

pliant ruin
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thats literally sayaka miki madoka magica holy shit

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holy shittttttttttt

spring helm
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i was thinking shirou emiya but i guess this works too

random mulch
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mango is already killing it with the ravager design so i cant wait to see their version of providence

pliant ruin
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go my woman

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go my evil woman

warm gull
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provi is getting redesigned again??

pliant ruin
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yes

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also getting two new designs

warm gull
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crazy

pliant ruin
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for her pre-ascencion human form and a ascnecion form but not the current one

warm gull
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Oh yeah

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Cuz god transformation is like

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A slow process

random mulch
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and mango's making it

north wigeon
warm gull
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Yharon😭

pliant ruin
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mango made permafrost really cool (pun intended

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so

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i trust them to make evil woman providence pre-ascencion cool also

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tho

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ig she probably wasnt evil back then

warm gull
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She was more of a pretentious holier-than-thou type I think

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She just thought she knew better than everybody

pliant ruin
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I don't really see her like that

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Tbf we don't know much

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but

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I like to imagine providence had an absolutely terrible life that would eventually result in her extreme nihilism

warm gull
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But honestly I'm not convinced her personality changed much after she ascended

north wigeon
pliant ruin
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i'd find it more interesting if she was someone who fell into evil than someone who was just always evil

spring helm
north wigeon
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can't wait for the permafrost resprite

spring helm
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Waiter! More slightly forward facing NPC's please!

solar wharf
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do the worshippers know that each god actually was just a normal ass human?

pliant ruin
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i imagine that

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soem of them do

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depends on the god probably

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and the worshipper

spring helm
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maybe at first

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but it's been like 800 years

pliant ruin
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i imagine some gods probably are pretty open about it

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and others are like

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yeah no dude i'm like literally

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i've been here since the beggining of time

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trust me

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you should worship me

warm gull
spring helm
solar wharf
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because if so, wouldnt some worshippers say "nah fuck that, im gonna go worship a true god" and probably a religion similr to christanity and islam would start

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similar*

spring helm
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would they even have a concept of a "true god"

pliant ruin
solar wharf
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its a simple concept

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they should?

pliant ruin
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I think her just being evil/bad from the get go wouldn't be as interesting

warm gull
pliant ruin
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mainly because you have to

spring helm
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well what would a true god in calamity be

pliant ruin
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go through something

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absolutely awful

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to decide

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yeah no

solar wharf
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something along the lines of omnipotency

pliant ruin
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life is bad

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the only release the entire world can have is omnicide

spring helm
north wigeon
spring helm
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would that even become a thing in a world like calamity

north wigeon
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we already have the literal Crusade we really don't need anymore

pliant ruin
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provi has the potential to be a really cool tragic story that unlike someone like calamitas who broke off her villainy ended up going deeper into it and turned unreedemably evil

solar wharf
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that had nothing to do with christanity

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christanity only became a thing many years after jesus death

pliant ruin
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also yeah there were religions like

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way before christianity

solar wharf
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^

pliant ruin
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cave ppl probably had

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religions

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to some extent

solar wharf
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its in human nature for them to go "why are we here" and its very simple for them to reach the conclusion of

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"someone created us!!!"

pliant ruin
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it's just a natural way ppl have of explaining things we dont understand

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^

spring helm
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yes but i meant like omnipotent gods since a lot of gods we have are not all powerful but just have domain over a certain aspect of the world

solar wharf
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like the torah who also believes in a god, came before christanity

pliant ruin
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i don't think monotheism was like

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created by christianity

solar wharf
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i shouldv said a creator

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not omnipotency

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thats my bad

warm gull
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Judaism definitely had it before christianity

solar wharf
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it did

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bible came only iirc 300 years after jesus deaths?

spring helm
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maybe i shouldve said monotheistic judaism instead

solar wharf
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or more i dont remember

pliant ruin
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tbh i think

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its entirely plausible ppl in terraria/calamity whatever u call the world

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would develop religions more like irl ones

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cuz theyd see gods as just

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another part of the world

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and not an actual explanation for Why Things Exist

solar wharf
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thats what i was thinking, like if they knew those gods are actually just strong beings, wouldnt some form atleast some form of monothestic religion? maybe not a pure one

warm gull
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But honestly christian and islamic mythology actually goes hard if you read the fiction about it tather than just hearing what christians say

spring helm
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yeah i feel like the concept of religions would be a little different compared to ours considering their gods are actually like there

pliant ruin
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But it probably wouldnt be included in the mods lore because itd make things confusing

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but in-universe

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i can see it being a thing

spring helm
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an ilmeran could just go to the temple and see otonilou and tyrian

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people cant do that irl

warm gull
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Like the cainanites who were a tribe of people who came from cain (the sone who killed his brother able) became bloodthirsty warmongers who continued to bear their progenitor's curse

pliant ruin
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bible has some cool stuff on it but tbh its written in a way that makes it really tiring for me to read it

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and i already am not like

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much of a reder so

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reader

warm gull
spring helm
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probably because it was meant for people thousands of years ago with very specific cultural contexts

warm gull
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Somebody gave it to me

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I'm not christian or anything tho

solar wharf
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i read bits of the bible, and finished the quran a while ago, my dad wanted me to find the better religion for me

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i went with islam obviously

spring helm
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unless you're talking about how hard it is to read king james english

warm gull
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Yeah king james bible is the lame one

spring helm
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because fair enough, you shouldnt be reading the KJ bible anyway

warm gull
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The one I have is just written in normal english from today

spring helm
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it's cool and very peotic in the way it's written but it's also massively outdated

pliant ruin
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it can range from religious trivia, to cooking recipes and to historical facts

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and other things

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it's fun to just look up random stuff

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i'm progbably like

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a encyclopedia of completely unrelated random trivia at this poijnt

warm gull
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šŸ™

spring helm
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historical fact: a sling can throw a stone with enough kinetic energy to rival a handgun

david squared up to goliath with the ancient equivalent of a .45

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it was not close

warm gull
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My brain is too full of useless shit to hold anything worthwhile

spring helm
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okay back to calamity's gods

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i imagine some of them were okay with polytheism and allowed their worshippers to worship other gods

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maybe some even grouped together and formed pantheons

solar wharf
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isnt that what the sea god did

pliant ruin
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yeah

spring helm
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yeah the two of them worked together

warm gull
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sea god and electricity god were together in ilmeris

solar wharf
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a really bad combo in real life but surprisingly peaceful in calamity.

spring helm
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eternal rivalry between Tyrian and the god of the skies, as their domains are close enough that rain can be controlled by the both of them

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okay maybe not eternal, yharim kinda got to them

warm gull
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That's just poseidon and zeus

solar wharf
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would you count attuned beings as "champions" but for dragons

spring helm
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similar, but being attuned is much more specific i feel since a champion just has to be favoured by a god

warm gull
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I'm pretty sure only one person can be attuned to a dragon at a time but I don't have a soirce for that

spring helm
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source: my feelings

solar wharf
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i always assumed a champion is just a god giving a mortal their power

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like braelors axe

warm gull
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It was revealed to me in a dream

solar wharf
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while attuenement actually give stat buffs?

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like yharim now lives up to 130

spring helm
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this is what i think of when someone is attuned to a dragon

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they are one is soul

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i feel like this is not something that a dragon can easily do with a mortal as a god would when picking a champion

warm gull
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Wait you're right

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:3

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Didn't even cross my mind

solar wharf
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:3

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so true

warm gull
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I don't understand the point of ascension tbh

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If you the terrarian can get as strong as you do in such a short timeframe, as a being only second to xeroc

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Then why go through all the effort to hunt down a dragon and kill it?

spring helm
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the terrarian is built different

random mulch
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the terrarian is probably more of an exception than anything

spring helm
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also the timeframe more up to you

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once i spent like a week just fishing instead of fighting bosses

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irl

warm gull
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Reb said it would take at least a year or so prolly

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Which is still not that long

spring helm
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also
gods and dragon are not just strong, but hold domain over aspects of the world

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that's the big difference between auric dragons and dragon offshoots

cosmic zenith
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So the second form is a middle-term between her human form and her current form

spring helm
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so the ritual doesnt instantly turn you?

buoyant inlet
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it probably depends

eternal lotus
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guys in "the roar of the jungle dragon" (if its not that sorry but i'm talking about the theme of yharon) there is a passage that is "this is a message to my master" is he talking about yharim ?

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or the other strong dude

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zeroc ?

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idk

random mulch
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yharim

eternal lotus
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is he like

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his dog ?

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XD

random mulch
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not really

eternal lotus
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like a pet/apprentice ?

random mulch
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accomplice in atrocities

eternal lotus
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the atrocities is like genocide destruction of whole ecosysteme or galaxy ?

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maybe not galaxy

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its too far i think

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mybe planet is better

random mulch
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probably a good bit of the world

eternal lotus
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"the world" ? refered to the universe or the planet that terraria going on

random mulch
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planet

eternal lotus
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okay XD

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yharim is like neutral or pure evil ?

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like there was a reason to those atrocities or he was just :

random mulch
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absolute monster who pretends to be a hero

eternal lotus
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ha im bored like destroy people

eternal lotus
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terrarian ( god mode activated ) VS yharim XD

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i dont even if the terrarianwould win even in god mode because i do feel like yharim just tanking and regenerating so fast that is does nothing to him

random mulch
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yharim is strong but ultimately he's also just a human

eternal lotus
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so decapition and he's dead ?

random mulch
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yeah

eternal lotus
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i see

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damn he trained his whole life and he got inherit talent to beat god as just a human

mighty zenith
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he ain't called the strongest mortal for nothing

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well he ain't gonna be called that for much longer once we get to him

random mulch
eternal lotus
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sukuna ( the strongest sorcerer in history ) VS yharim ( the strongest human in history )

eternal lotus
humble folio
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Late ping but yeah ig
Even still it does feel nice having all the characters get larger backstories

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Everyone gets a spotlight and it makes it feel more diverse depending on how good it’s written

pliant ruin
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Like most things do somehow eventually trace back to yharim and the crusade etc but beyond that alot of things are kind of like their own self contained subplots

eternal lotus
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i never knew that calamity had lore except that there was someone telling the stories and history of the different place across the world until the day i joined this discord server

buoyant inlet
pliant ruin
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Yeah they're homies

eternal lotus
pliant ruin
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probably because my master sounds cooler

warm gull
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it was written before the new lore

pliant ruin
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yeah that too

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and also my master just sounds cooler

buoyant inlet
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yharim probably is his master from like military position standpoint

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cal would aslo call yharim her master, and perma would too, when they were allies with him

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probably

mighty zenith
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dokuro did it just so he could rhyme it with disaster

eternal lotus
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as you're talking about cal WHO IS SHE ? like il all lore i heared almsot all boss ( even slime god ) but almost never cal

mighty zenith
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Calamitas

buoyant inlet
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supreme witch

pliant ruin
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She's just a girl

buoyant inlet
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she's just a girl who committed genocide against fish people

eternal lotus
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fish people

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?

buoyant inlet
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Ilmeris incineration

warm gull
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she cooked fish

buoyant inlet
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Ilmeris is sunken sea kingdom

warm gull
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she's the reason the desert exists

eternal lotus
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the only fish people i know is eidolist and i dont even if they are evene fish guy

buoyant inlet
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at least, for the surface desert

warm gull
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eidolists came from the lunatic cultist's cult

buoyant inlet
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surface desert always was there

eternal lotus
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so the sunken thing below the desert is mostly because of her

buoyant inlet
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ilmeran sea is an underground sea

eternal lotus
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yeah every big island ( well almost ) as a desert part

buoyant inlet
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but because of cal underground desert is bigger

eternal lotus
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i see

eternal lotus
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i forgot about him

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XD

buoyant inlet
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he was the king of ilmeris

eternal lotus
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because i mostly never do giznt clam

warm gull
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hurgleblarf

pliant ruin
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I need to

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ok

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give me

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btrb

buoyant inlet
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gives you btrb

eternal lotus
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bruh i though he was just a fish guy but he is a king now ?!

mighty zenith
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here you go

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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amidias is the sea king and hes also a fish guy

buoyant inlet
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yeah it's his npc title

pliant ruin
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hes my favorite sea horse

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he's just a kind old man.

eternal lotus
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well technically he is the last fish dude that isnt a monster so he is a king for definition

pliant ruin
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he was already a king before

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and tbh

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i dont doubt it that therews

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other illmerans

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we probably just dont find them ingame

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i find it highly unlikely a entire species would die like that

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they're probably near extinct

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but i think its reasonable there ssome out there

eternal lotus
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giant clam clammed them all clueless

warm gull
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gargalossoa

buoyant inlet
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Amidias let it go cover

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But permafrost let it go cover would be cooler

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This but with perma

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Dipper and Mabel are terrarian and Cal

warm gull
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norbgun

mighty zenith
humble folio
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Everything comes together eventually

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I liked that about old lore too, everything was just a lot looser admittedly

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But having a couple plots going on isn’t horrible

stuck shore
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What copy abilities could be introduced if Calamity Mod was a Kirby Game?

thick slate
pliant ruin
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homophobia

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you get it from yharim

thick slate
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lets go

buoyant inlet
thick slate
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my kinda calamity mod

stuck shore
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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REAL

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DRAEDON GIVES YOU THE AUTISM COPY ABILITY

mighty zenith
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just makes kirby sit down and not move forever

pliant ruin
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SCAL GIVES YOU DEPRESSION

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Wheres the image

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the creator of autism image

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someone get it

random mulch
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the 3 most important calamity character
autistic, depressed and homophobic

stuck shore
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Y’all using personality as abilities

thick slate
mighty zenith
thick slate
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depression gotta be the worst ability

random mulch
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how do you think yharim survived his encounter with braelor and statis

mighty zenith
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and kirby copies weapons, both physical and just powers

thick slate
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he separated them

mighty zenith
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auric strengthened by homophobia

pliant ruin
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FOUND IT

stuck shore
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Guys what about Exo Mecha ability upgrade?

pliant ruin
thick slate
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lmao

random mulch
stuck shore
stuck shore
pliant ruin
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he can

stuck shore
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(Aside from game logic)

pliant ruin
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why do ppl think kirby is immortal

mighty zenith
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he inflicts the radiation poisoning

pliant ruin
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h's very strong but not immortal

stuck shore
random mulch
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radiation. poisoning.

buoyant inlet
pliant ruin
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pronouns if they were evil

thick slate
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these goe hard asf

stuck shore
pliant ruin
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no

thick slate
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pronouns are evil

pliant ruin
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he's a he

mighty zenith
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Au/tism

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iirc

pliant ruin
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true

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TRUE

stuck shore
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Was asking bc he is a robot thing

mighty zenith
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the au stands for gold

buoyant inlet
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Why is draedon associated with autism I don't get it

warm gull
pliant ruin
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draedon being the inventor of autism is one of the best bits to come out of this channel

pliant ruin
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he literally infodumps o

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on you

stuck shore
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Does og exo armor plans have radiation poisoning to actually be added in an update?

pliant ruin
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i don't remember exactly where the draedon being the inventor of autism bit originated from

warm gull
pliant ruin
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but it was a conversation in this channel

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i was a part of it

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and then someone made the image as a result

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and now he's just

random mulch
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yharim would set his pronouns to nor/mal

pliant ruin
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the inventor of autism.

pliant ruin
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he'd have like

mighty zenith
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yharim with pronouns just makes me think of that fucking
eric cartman image

spring helm
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draedon does not care what pronouns you use for him

pliant ruin
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a cross in his bio but instead of a cross it would be a draconic sigil or something

warm gull
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draedon invented autism and INJECTED it into babies

random mulch
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draedon gave me the tism???

pliant ruin
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for the sake of a experiment he poisoned the water supplies with autism juice

spring helm
pliant ruin
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and guess where the water from the vaccines come from

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thats right

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wake up america...... draedon is turning your kids autistic with his evil vaccines

warm gull
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wake up I'm erica

pliant ruin
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also gay

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he also turns them gay

random mulch
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draedon's dumping exo prisms into the water and turning the champion gay

spring helm
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"It's time for your shots Yharim."
"I don't want them, I feel dumber every time you give me one!"
"You're already dumb, now hold still or I'll hack into your suit and springlock you."

pliant ruin
warm gull
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draedon is the shadow government

warm gull
pliant ruin
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i can still make dad jokes even if i'm not a dad.

warm gull
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nuh uh

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I'll kill you

pliant ruin
spring helm
pliant ruin
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but then i'll be a mom

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and also she's older than me

spring helm
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you can be whatever you want cheesy

pliant ruin
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to be fair we're like not that far off eachother

spring helm
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violate those social norms

pliant ruin
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she could be like my sibling realistically

spring helm
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wait a decade and you'll be older than her

warm gull
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does calamitas age in real time

pliant ruin
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yes

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she'll be 40 in 20 years

spring helm
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this will be calamitas in 20 years

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šŸ’„

warm gull
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calamitas will explode when she turns 38

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it was written

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etched into the fundament of time itself

spring helm
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fundament is such a silly word

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you rarely ever see it even though fundamental is relatively common

pliant ruin
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this si so sad

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im getting old

warm gull
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you're 2 years older than a child

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tf you mean

pliant ruin
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yes

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i'm getting old

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take me back

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i don't like being 19

warm gull
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I remember when I was a kid and wanted to be an adult

pliant ruin
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how old r u again

warm gull
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now I'm an adult and nothing is really different because I turned 18 like 2 months ago

pliant ruin
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actually idk if youve ever even said

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oh

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oh ok lamo

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lmao

pliant ruin
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it's when you actually have to start being a responsible adult that you understand the Horrors

warm gull
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I have to college

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I don't want to

pliant ruin
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i only really started feeling like an adult this year

pliant ruin
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I'm going to night class to get a diploma but tbh after you do actually get into it it's not so bad

warm gull
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in california we get free college though so bonuses

pliant ruin
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at best it's kind of boring

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my teacher is creepy but oh well

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it could be alot worse

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my attention spam has gotten alot better now than it was like 4 years ago though so i can actually pay attention to class now, atleast thtay's cool

thick slate
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turning 18 is cool

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you get alcohol

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and gambling

pliant ruin
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turning 18 for me was like hardmode terraria

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when i turned 18 i was like

thick slate
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i dont got responsibilities yet

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šŸ™

pliant ruin
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oh my god... i can Drink and Gamble....

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it was like when you have the nights edge at the end of pre hardmode

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but then actually starting to have an adult life was like entering hardmode and having a giant tortoise snipe you from 50 kilometers away as soon as you step in the jungle

warm gull
thick slate
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WHAT

pliant ruin
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i hate beer

thick slate
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its WHAT

thick slate
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i only like one brand

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corona

pliant ruin
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havent had that one

thick slate
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i prefer spirits and such tho

pliant ruin
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yeah same

thick slate
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mm vodky

pliant ruin
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vodka mixed drinks r my favorites

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šŸ¤

thick slate
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i like tequila as well

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very controversial drink

warm gull
# pliant ruin i hate beer

one time I was drinking milk out of a mug and my mom's friend was drinking beer out of the same type of mug and I accidentally picked it up and drank it and it was awful

pliant ruin
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yeah .

thick slate
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itsss

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mid

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at best

warm gull
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I was like

thick slate
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but mid is fine

warm gull
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12

thick slate
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damn

warm gull
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luckily I ran to the sink and spit it out before I swallowed any

pliant ruin
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i don't drink too often but when i do its usually just vodka mixed drinks

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those actually taste good

thick slate
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yea

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vodka barely taste

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grey goose is very nice on its own imo

pliant ruin
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this one time i got drunk and i started sending my friend these types of gifs

thick slate
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crazy

warm gull
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that but it's men and it's fornite

pliant ruin
#

when they evnetually joined i just kept playing horse noises on the music bot

#

and nothing else

thick slate
#

i discovred my sexuality while drunk

#

so tbh

#

kinda based

pliant ruin
#

i discovered my sexuality while watching a magical girl anime

warm gull
#

I haven't discovered my sexuality

pliant ruin
#

good luck soldier

thick slate
#

thats the easy part

pliant ruin
#

i had to go to hell and back in terms of sexuality until i finally realized i was a lesbian

thick slate
#

telling people is even harder bro

warm gull
#

I'm straight until proven not straight

pliant ruin
#

well

#

my aunt

#

she's the only one left l m a o

thick slate
#

im only open to my sister since she is bi, neither of us have told our parents

pliant ruin
#

"anyone in my family" WHFCIH FAMILY

warm gull
#

is it socially unacceptable to be gay in brazil

pliant ruin
#

nah

#

well

#

sometimes

#

but generally

#

its a fairly supportive country

thick slate
#

i feel like most countries are supportive

pliant ruin
#

its got good lgbt laws and the president isnt homophobic as far as i'm concerned so

thick slate
#

but most are also not at the same time

#

its weird

pliant ruin
#

id say theres more supportive countries than ones that arent supportive but also the onjes that arent just so happen to be the biggest ones

#

like usa and russia and etc

warm gull
#

yeah the US isn't terrible about it though I live in california which is pretty much the most progressive state lol

pliant ruin
#

like ofc

thick slate
#

australia is fine

pliant ruin
#

every country will have like

thick slate
#

australia is like 50/50 progressive, conservative

pliant ruin
#

SOME amount of people who support and who dont

#

but if you factor in the ppl in charge + the majority of the population

#

most of the rly powerful big countries r more homophobic than not homophobic

thick slate
#

yeaa

warm gull
#

there are more progressive people in the US than conservatives but the conservatives go through a lot of effort to make sure they keep some amount of power

thick slate
#

australias current government is based

#

hope it stays that way

warm gull
thick slate
#

there are like two centrist slightly left, slighty right parties in australia

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and then two extreme parties

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and the two centrist parties are pretty chill

#

and then win all the time

warm gull
#

The US technically has more than 2 parties but uh

thick slate
#

yea

warm gull
#

I bet you've never heard of any aside from red and blue

thick slate
#

but the minor parties in us barely exist

#

(i follow american politics)

warm gull
#

I was just making a joke because honestly I barely know any parties aside from the main ones

thick slate
#

oh

#

yea

warm gull
#

I hate party politics so much

thick slate
#

but the democrats and repubs are all that matters

warm gull
#

I hate that they've ingrained themselves so deep into our government systems that they're literally official parts of it

pliant ruin
#

i will be the next us president

#

vote me

warm gull
#

I would honestly

#

you're not trump or biden

#

I would vote fucking

#

mickey mouse

thick slate
#

one party system honestly aint that bad

warm gull
#

actually no disney is evil

warm gull
thick slate
#

if the party is good

#

and elections are allowed

spring helm
warm gull
#

well no shit but is the party ever goodclueless

thick slate
#

yea

#

on paper its good

#

like communism

#

in practice

#

erm

warm gull
warm gull
spring helm
#

fair enough

warm gull
#

communism can work

#

in little societies

pliant ruin
#

i love being an adult and paying bills and doing taxes

warm gull
#

they call them

#

COMMUNES

thick slate
#

i love being able to vote

#

thats actually best part about adultage

warm gull
#

socialism can also work in moderation

thick slate
#

i love socialismm

warm gull
#

every country that has a federal government has some amount of socialism

thick slate
#

kinda

spring helm
#

socialism is when the government does stuff

thick slate
#

what

spring helm
#

and the more stuff it does, the more socialist it is

warm gull
#

socialism is when the society as a whole benefits from the work of its constituents

#

rather than just that one person

spring helm
#

and when the government does a real lot of stuff, that's communism

thick slate
#

no big companie

#

no big corp

#

no big monopoly

warm gull
#

you can have big companies and corporations and still have socialist aspects

#

like the US, or most of Europe, etc.

thick slate
#

yea

#

but still more socialist changes would be better

pliant ruin
#

the world would be good if money never existed

#

like if money was just nevr invented

#

it would be waesome

#

i hate money

warm gull
#

I like money

thick slate
#

root of all evil or smt

warm gull
#

in my pocket

#

I like it when there's money in my pocket

thick slate
#

yea so does everyone

warm gull
#

because society tells me that it's good

thick slate
#

anyWAY

#

lore discuss

#

lmaooo

#

they should add voting to calamit

warm gull
#

yeah aren't you supposed to moderate us

warm gull
thick slate
#

dictator

thick slate
mighty zenith
#

wrong

warm gull
#

what if the guy who got to attune to yharon was elected democratically

mighty zenith
#

kill everyone

thick slate
#

as long as you dont break rules, and dont disturb someone trying to lore discuss

#

then its finee

warm gull
#

what if the town npcs could hold an election and overthrow you for making them live in tiny boxes with no bathrooms

#

actually no I would just kill them if they tried

thick slate
#

stalin logic

#

literally ussr summary

warm gull
#

it would be super annoying if I allowed democracy to take hold

spring helm
#

lore

#

how long did it take yharim to gather up his army and start the crusade

#

given that he got dipped in lava, i would say he had a few months to recover first

#

then again, yharon was there and he's got auric magic or something

warm gull
#

well I think I heard somewhere that yharim is between 130-200 years old

spring helm
#

yeah he's about 130

thick slate
#

he should run for senate

warm gull
#

so the crusade ended like 10 years ago

#

which means that the crusade ended when he was like 120

#

we don't know how old he was when he was thrown into hell with yharim's egg though

#

just that he was like, of age or smth

spring helm
#

so like, at least 18 then

warm gull
#

whatever age they decided he was appropriate to make god-king

spring helm
#

i doubt the gods would have let someone younger than that be their king

warm gull
#

it's also moronic to me that they decided to throw yharon's egg into hell with him

#

like

#

they could've kept it

spring helm
#

to be fair

#

the gods didnt do that one, their worshippers did

thick slate
#

why didnt they just get another guy

#

calamity wouldnt exist if they waited like 30 seconds before throwing the egg in

spring helm
#

at least i assume that's what the line

their meek, ingratiated swine

#

is reffering to their followers

thick slate
#

bro

#

if i was a follower

#

i would not let that happen personally

warm gull
#

shouldn't have put phil on execution duty again

thick slate
#

bro definitely got fired

#

probably literally

spring helm
warm gull
#

amazing

pliant ruin
#

NOOO

warm gull
#

she expolrded

spring helm
#

bomb them

warm gull
#

calamiboom

#

no more grey witch

pliant ruin
#

my reaction

spring helm
#

guh

warm gull
#

calamitas needs to be killed

spring helm
#

dead

pliant ruin
#

YOU need to be killed

#

i'll KILL you

warm gull
#

I wouldn't even mind

#

but I wish calamitas's eyes were orange still

#

I liked that better

spring helm
#

are they not?

warm gull
#

they're red now

spring helm
#

arent they just tinted with her magic

pliant ruin
#

why is calamitas's sprite pink again i forgot

#

was it like

#

a hue shading error or something

#

idk im not a spriter

warm gull
#

I think it's uh

#

because she's got glwoing red shit surrounding her

#

and she's grey

spring helm
#

i thought it was just the lighting from her magic

warm gull
#

and so it just kinds evens out to pinkish

pliant ruin
#

i think it's supposed to be that

#

but then even after the fight she's like

#

still pink

spring helm
#

she's never off-guard

warm gull
#

wait she's pink as a town npc

pliant ruin
#

ye

warm gull
#

I'm stoning calamitas

pliant ruin
#

i'm guessing they forgot to turn her gray in her npc form

warm gull
#

we don't accept pink people in my terraria town

pliant ruin
#

racist

spring helm
#

🤯

pliant ruin
#

literally yharim 2

warm gull
untold bluff
#

Hello Roy devs

pliant ruin
#

who

#

i see no roy devs here

warm gull
#

good morrow

pliant ruin
#

clearly

warm gull
#

shut up emoji person

#

your name consists of emojis

#

exclusively

pliant ruin
#

yah

#

cuz im cheese

#

strawberry fheese

#

chrnbtarm

#

bcan

#

bjikgb

#

nm,

#

]

#

l,

warm gull
#

I like parmesan

#

my favorite

#

except for gouda

#

I like gouda better

#

but you can't sprinkle gouda on italian food

spring helm
#

i got excited buying cheese a month ago, and then it grew mold in like a week

warm gull
#

you have to devour it faster

#

also

#

argleburg

pliant ruin
#

i love cheese

#

im cheese

#

i love Me

jaunty wraith
#

If your cheese? Are you edible?

warm gull
#

she should get the edible role on sscls iirc

jaunty wraith
#

Did you just change your profile picture to needy streamer overload?

warm gull
#

she changed it in just this server because of nitro and sometimes it glitches out and doesn't load right away

jaunty wraith
#

Oh okay

spring helm
#

Fovos fact: I’d kick his ass even at full power

jaunty wraith
#

Full power fovos gets his powers from his magnificent legs

urban hedge
#

True, he must be Steve

untold bluff
#

I wish there was an addon to fight full power fovos

#

I'm assuming he would be a post yharim superboss fought before Noxus

pliant ruin
#

probably after noxus tbh

#

he's stronger than noxus in theory

jaunty wraith
#

Noxus is strange, in raw destructive power he even beats xeroc

jaunty niche
warm gull
#

yeah cei put full power fovos over noxus in power level

untold bluff
jaunty niche
#

hahaha

untold bluff
#

(makes sense, it's kinda hard to work with) XD

jaunty wraith
warm gull
#

what

#

fovos is stronger than noxus but xeroc is stronger than fovos was

jaunty niche
#

it seems that full power xeroc is greatly stronger than full power zeratros...?

visual kiln
#

Yea

untold bluff
#

Xeroc is by far the strongest character in calamity lore

warm gull
jaunty niche
untold bluff
visual kiln
warm gull
#

average auric dragon has been stated to be about eidolon wyrm level

#

not primordial

jaunty niche
#

pw is stronger than average auric dragon lol

warm gull
#

yes that's what I said

#

I mean primordial wyrm is stronger than yharon too so

untold bluff
#

Are you kidding me

#

Damn I guess I'll have no luck hunting dragons smh

jaunty niche
#

btw, pw is said to be blessed by silva, was this after she... died?

untold bluff
#

Nope

#

She can't really die

warm gull
#

she isn't dead

#

she's a vegetable at the bottom of the abyss

untold bluff
#

She's kinda stuck in a vegative state

#

Slowly regenerating

#

Some devs said she might be added as an ambient feature

#

In the bg

frozen zodiac
#

i wonder if she would be willing to converse with the player about several beings in the world and her view on them

jaunty niche
#

then what does "Disposing of Silva's remains" in the world generation screen mean

untold bluff
#

She can't really

#

Talk

#

Because

#

Idk

#

Maybe telepathically but still she might be unconscious

frozen zodiac
untold bluff
#

I just said-

#

Yeah

jaunty niche
untold bluff
#

That stuff might be outdated

#

Or exaggerated

jaunty niche
#

sad...

#

what happened to her in the up to date lore, anyway?

#

did she still support Statis and Braelor?

pliant ruin
#

they DID dispose of her remains

#

it's just that those remains are still alive

#

and they'll like. turn back into a person at some point probably.

#

well not probably they literally will do that Eventually

#

it'll jsut take some time.

spring helm
jaunty niche
#

okay... that makes... sence

sly bloom
#

Xeroc's the "I let you win" boss

jaunty niche
pliant ruin
#

She was Braelor's goddess so

jaunty niche
#

Braelor is Statis's "compatriot", and Statis seems to be from the Onyx Kingsman that worshiped the Slime God and revered Signus...

pliant ruin
#

"compatriot" is definitely a way to put it

#

I figure Slime God and Silva might've had some sort of partnership

#

they're both gods with a strong focus on nature

jaunty niche
#

it makes sence that gods cooperate... but this remind me of... Providence

#

Amidias wishes the player to kill her, Signus is still hunting her down (or not?), seems she have a bad fame even within the gods side

warm gull
#

yeah everybody hates providence

#

because providence hates everybody

#

her whole MO is to kill everyone and that means nobody likes her

jaunty niche
#

she used to be a "visionary", and had three seemingly close friends, but right after she consumed the auric soul, she became... like this

untold bluff
#

Having great power corrupted her

jaunty niche
#

or the auric soul itself... I mean, it's a "soul" anyway

untold bluff
#

I don't mean it literally corrupted her

#

I meant that being put in a spot of high power makes people think they can do whatever they want and become self centered

spring helm
#

nuh uh, i will never get corrupted by power

#

not me

#

i have strong moral character and values

#

anyway

#

me when someone creates the slightest inconvenience

jaunty niche
jaunty niche
# spring helm

the game take as default that you don't want to kill calamitas lol

spring helm
#

that's true

#

i built her a house before i fought her

#

every other npc got a wooden box prison

jaunty niche
jaunty niche
#

I'm joking

untold bluff
jaunty niche
untold bluff
#

I think I'm calling it a day with calmain

pliant ruin
#

Nothing so far seems to imply ascending makes you go crazy

#

Tyrian, Otonilou and Xeroc for one all seem to still have been pretty Normal after ascending

#

Providence most likely fell into insanity on her own

#

Also worth noting that there isn't really a ''Side of the gods", gods are mostly independent and the ones that have a relation with eachother don't have it just because they're gods, it's usually because they share goals or morals in common

#

(Ex, Tyrian and Otonilou, presumably Slime God and Silva)

earnest flare
#

what if a dragon absorbed a human soul

warped helm
#

auric dragon

#

fleshy human

#

the dragon gets fat asf thats prob it

warm gull
#

Dragons are made of magic

#

Humans are made of water

#

Water is denser than magic

fiery meadow
#

There’s a dragon inside all of us, but especially Xeroc

#

The friend inside me…..

sinful adder
#

No way

#

Toby Fox was secretly the lore writer all along

scenic olive
#

do you believe in mana

hollow meteor
#

Sombody else see yharim having red hair

jaunty niche
warm gull
#

he was gobberfuckstomped by yharim

jaunty niche
#

What a... straightforward story

#

Did he die? or did Otonilou die? did they become pollution, or DoG food?

#

or are they designed to remain mysteries

#

Maybe they have different stories in cal and some addons

buoyant inlet
#

Otonilou and Tyrian were incinerated with the rest of the kingdom

#

Considering how dog was around by this point, he probably ate their essences afterwards

celest kettle
#

Yummers

#

Which auric soul tastes the best

buoyant inlet
#

My

celest kettle
#

Imagine every time dog devoured an essence he just say "yummers"

jaunty niche
#

maybe there was a dragon of gluttony or something (x

buoyant inlet
#

I wonderclueless

jaunty niche
#

threw her spear to an endgame player, wishing them to give yharim her retribution

calm patio
scenic olive
amber cedar
#

erm

buoyant inlet
#

Chat is this image real

graceful otter
#

juggling five pebbles

latent bolt
clever meteor
#

where would exotechnology land on the kardachev scale

sly bloom
#

Less than Type 1

#

Quite high in the 0.XX scale, but still less than 1

spring helm
#

while exoprisms technically have unlimited energy, their output is still limited, which is why draedon has to mass-produce them

amber cedar
north wigeon
shrewd flame
#

does calamity have any lore explaination for the hallowed

pliant ruin
#

ye

#

it was created much like the evil biomes, being the result of leftover divine essence taking over the land

#

but in the case of evil biomes

#

they were the essences of malicious gods

#

with the hallow it was the opposite, with it being formed by the essence of benevolent gods

buoyant inlet
#

Hallow is at worst dubious gods and at best benevolent saints

#

Probably

pliant ruin
#

which is probably why yharim sealed it fully inside WoF whilst he kept some of the evil biome outside, because then people would only see the remains of evil gods

#

which would be beneficial for his anti-god propaganda and all that

north wigeon
#

ahh
twisting the narrative

#

ofc

scenic olive
jaunty wraith
#

Yharim? Twisting the narrative? But he's the secret hero, a good guy... Yeah I only read the lore items how can you tell

jaunty wraith
#

Makes you wonder if xeroc is even the evil traitor, since the only one you hear about him from is... Yharim

mighty zenith
north wigeon
#

xeroc? not despicable and deserving of eradication? preposterous

north wigeon
thick slate
#

gods are bad guys!!

#

some guy told me

jaunty wraith
#

I mean, the only god that we see in game we can definitely say is evil is Providence

north wigeon
#

(the one feverishly killing said gods)

mighty zenith
#

we also get a really bad first impression from ravager

#

but you cant really blame him

#

since he's basically a machine in this state

north wigeon
#

imagine if we got a concept of the god of sacrifices when he was alive

mighty zenith
#

i want him to be just really chill

#

dont judge a book by its cover and allat

north wigeon
#

ravager rework concept just got made ofc
so this one isn't as far fetched

pliant ruin
jaunty wraith
north wigeon
mighty zenith
#

I don't think its mentioned

north wigeon
#

i recall one of the writers saying that

mighty zenith
#

we do know his believers were really attached to him

north wigeon
#

could be wrong though lemme check

mighty zenith
#

since they were willing to kill themselves just to bring him back

pliant ruin
#

i would love GOS to be a good guy

cloud ibex
#

it's an interesting twist if the god of sacrifices was less about sacrificing others but more about sacrificing himself for others

pliant ruin
#

it would be a cool subversion and could make for a really cool tragic story

jaunty wraith
#

Makes sense, what better way to bring the god of sacrifice back then to sacrifice yourself

mighty zenith
#

I love it because it makes Yharim's argument fall even flatter on its face

#

"hey look at this MONSTROUS CREATURE, its a god and its EVIL"

#

and he just turns out to be a cool guy

sturdy current
#

can we try to powerscale yharim based off of the information we have currently?

#

very curious about that

mighty zenith
#

@wheat walrus wake up nerd

wheat walrus
#

lol

jaunty wraith
#

Infact what if it's sacrifice in a good connotation? Like sacrificing your future for your children

#

Sacrifice isn't inherently negative

pliant ruin
#

that's what i'm saying!!!

#

it would be so cool

wheat walrus
solar wharf
#

scarifice could be small and efficient, work is literally scarifice in a sense

#

scarificing time and effort for food

solar wharf
#

or money is a more broad term

jaunty wraith
solar wharf
#

i imagine the god's society would be very believing in scarifice is the way of life.

jaunty wraith
#

Truly evil

pliant ruin
#

god of capitalism

#

nvm

#

yharim was right

#

kill that fucker

solar wharf
#

would god of scarifice ability be in the sense that, if you give something or throw something out, they will replace it with something of equal value?

north wigeon
#

me when i spread misinformation

warm gull
#

the god of capitalism is the monopoly man

warm gull
#

and he only embodies the good parts of capitalism

#

the bad parts are uh

#

we don't talk about it

north wigeon
#

ah yes, Smaug