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first is pre-ascencion
second is after she ascended but
different from ingame
so if i had to guess
the 3 forms are pre-ascension, post-ascenion and current/in-game
she went a bit crazy and turned into what she is now somehow
either that or smth else we dont know about yet
i thought she went crazy immediately after ascending tbh
like something about the ritual went wrong and she snapped
i think if that was the case she'd already have been crazy before
ehh
i wouldn't like that
having an actual character-driven motive for her to go insane is
alot more interesting
than just
oh! the ritual went wrong! now she wants to kill everyone!
yeah... i dont think the average person is omnicidal
fair enough, that's just what i thought happened because i didnt know she was a sane goddess for a while
i like to think that there was like
some sort of downwards spiral
that she went through
that eventually lead to her losing her sanity
and going haha funny omnicide
well she killed the dragon of flame in righteous anger right?
yeah
Provi started out saying something about sinners or whatever when she ascended
and if my idea for these 3 forms is right
then she'd theoretically not have gone insane then
maybe she went all "hero of justice" after ascending and just went on a downward spiral because it didn't work
Eventually decided everyone was sinners
became more and more obsessed with writing the wrongs of the world
i was thinking shirou emiya but i guess this works too
mango is already killing it with the ravager design so i cant wait to see their version of providence
provi is getting redesigned again??
crazy
for her pre-ascencion human form and a ascnecion form but not the current one
and mango's making it
woah nice
i thought her sprite was so big they didn't bother
Yharonš
mango made permafrost really cool (pun intended
so
i trust them to make evil woman providence pre-ascencion cool also
tho
ig she probably wasnt evil back then
She was more of a pretentious holier-than-thou type I think
She just thought she knew better than everybody
I don't really see her like that
Tbf we don't know much
but
I like to imagine providence had an absolutely terrible life that would eventually result in her extreme nihilism
But honestly I'm not convinced her personality changed much after she ascended
from generic ice mage to badass snow visor wearer
i'd find it more interesting if she was someone who fell into evil than someone who was just always evil
can't wait for the permafrost resprite
Waiter! More slightly forward facing NPC's please!
do the worshippers know that each god actually was just a normal ass human?
i imagine some gods probably are pretty open about it
and others are like
yeah no dude i'm like literally
i've been here since the beggining of time
trust me
you should worship me
She was the leader of a group of "heroes" and she decided all of them except herself were too flawed and unworthy to take the soul
DoG if he was a god
because if so, wouldnt some worshippers say "nah fuck that, im gonna go worship a true god" and probably a religion similr to christanity and islam would start
similar*
would they even have a concept of a "true god"
I mean from what we know it kind of seems like that but we dont have like, any of the context
I think her just being evil/bad from the get go wouldn't be as interesting
Just seems stuck up especially considering that she just ended up using to to literally try and kill everyone
mainly because you have to
well what would a true god in calamity be
something along the lines of omnipotency
well that's a concept of gods that is popular in our world because of christianity
oh god
please don't go from the diverse world of multitheism into what we have today
would that even become a thing in a world like calamity
we already have the literal Crusade we really don't need anymore
provi has the potential to be a really cool tragic story that unlike someone like calamitas who broke off her villainy ended up going deeper into it and turned unreedemably evil
not really, the concept of a creator has been in many different cultures
that had nothing to do with christanity
christanity only became a thing many years after jesus death
^
its in human nature for them to go "why are we here" and its very simple for them to reach the conclusion of
"someone created us!!!"
yes but i meant like omnipotent gods since a lot of gods we have are not all powerful but just have domain over a certain aspect of the world
like the torah who also believes in a god, came before christanity
i said along the lines of omnipotency, to create a universe, would imply you have atleast nigh-omnipotency over it
i shouldv said a creator
not omnipotency
thats my bad
Judaism definitely had it before christianity
maybe i shouldve said monotheistic judaism instead
or more i dont remember
tbh i think
its entirely plausible ppl in terraria/calamity whatever u call the world
would develop religions more like irl ones
cuz theyd see gods as just
another part of the world
and not an actual explanation for Why Things Exist
thats what i was thinking, like if they knew those gods are actually just strong beings, wouldnt some form atleast some form of monothestic religion? maybe not a pure one
But honestly christian and islamic mythology actually goes hard if you read the fiction about it tather than just hearing what christians say
yeah i feel like the concept of religions would be a little different compared to ours considering their gods are actually like there
But it probably wouldnt be included in the mods lore because itd make things confusing
but in-universe
i can see it being a thing
an ilmeran could just go to the temple and see otonilou and tyrian
people cant do that irl
Like the cainanites who were a tribe of people who came from cain (the sone who killed his brother able) became bloodthirsty warmongers who continued to bear their progenitor's curse
bible has some cool stuff on it but tbh its written in a way that makes it really tiring for me to read it
and i already am not like
much of a reder so
reader
I have a bible that's written in perfect modern english lol
probably because it was meant for people thousands of years ago with very specific cultural contexts
i read bits of the bible, and finished the quran a while ago, my dad wanted me to find the better religion for me
i went with islam obviously
unless you're talking about how hard it is to read king james english
Yeah king james bible is the lame one
because fair enough, you shouldnt be reading the KJ bible anyway
The one I have is just written in normal english from today
it's cool and very peotic in the way it's written but it's also massively outdated
I'm not religious either but i like looking random stuff up sometimes
it can range from religious trivia, to cooking recipes and to historical facts
and other things
it's fun to just look up random stuff
i'm progbably like
a encyclopedia of completely unrelated random trivia at this poijnt
š
historical fact: a sling can throw a stone with enough kinetic energy to rival a handgun
david squared up to goliath with the ancient equivalent of a .45
it was not close
My brain is too full of useless shit to hold anything worthwhile
okay back to calamity's gods
i imagine some of them were okay with polytheism and allowed their worshippers to worship other gods
maybe some even grouped together and formed pantheons
isnt that what the sea god did
yeah
yeah the two of them worked together
yeah this
sea god and electricity god were together in ilmeris
a really bad combo in real life but surprisingly peaceful in calamity.
eternal rivalry between Tyrian and the god of the skies, as their domains are close enough that rain can be controlled by the both of them
okay maybe not eternal, yharim kinda got to them
That's just poseidon and zeus
would you count attuned beings as "champions" but for dragons
similar, but being attuned is much more specific i feel since a champion just has to be favoured by a god
I'm pretty sure only one person can be attuned to a dragon at a time but I don't have a soirce for that
source: my feelings
i always assumed a champion is just a god giving a mortal their power
like braelors axe
It was revealed to me in a dream
this is what i think of when someone is attuned to a dragon
they are one is soul
i feel like this is not something that a dragon can easily do with a mortal as a god would when picking a champion
:3
I don't understand the point of ascension tbh
If you the terrarian can get as strong as you do in such a short timeframe, as a being only second to xeroc
Then why go through all the effort to hunt down a dragon and kill it?
the terrarian is built different
the terrarian is probably more of an exception than anything
also the timeframe more up to you
once i spent like a week just fishing instead of fighting bosses
irl
also
gods and dragon are not just strong, but hold domain over aspects of the world
that's the big difference between auric dragons and dragon offshoots
The transformation into her current godly form was gradual
So the second form is a middle-term between her human form and her current form
so the ritual doesnt instantly turn you?
it probably depends
guys in "the roar of the jungle dragon" (if its not that sorry but i'm talking about the theme of yharon) there is a passage that is "this is a message to my master" is he talking about yharim ?
or the other strong dude
zeroc ?
idk
yharim
not really
like a pet/apprentice ?
accomplice in atrocities
the atrocities is like genocide destruction of whole ecosysteme or galaxy ?
maybe not galaxy
its too far i think
mybe planet is better
probably a good bit of the world
"the world" ? refered to the universe or the planet that terraria going on
planet
okay XD
yharim is like neutral or pure evil ?
like there was a reason to those atrocities or he was just :
absolute monster who pretends to be a hero
ha im bored like destroy people
so not good guy i see
terrarian ( god mode activated ) VS yharim XD
i dont even if the terrarianwould win even in god mode because i do feel like yharim just tanking and regenerating so fast that is does nothing to him
yharim is strong but ultimately he's also just a human
so decapition and he's dead ?
yeah
i see
damn he trained his whole life and he got inherit talent to beat god as just a human
he ain't called the strongest mortal for nothing
well he ain't gonna be called that for much longer once we get to him
calamity gods arent anything like god god
sukuna ( the strongest sorcerer in history ) VS yharim ( the strongest human in history )
well yeah providence gettin destroyed by a random man buffed up and with big *ss orange armor and shield
Late ping but yeah ig
Even still it does feel nice having all the characters get larger backstories
Everyone gets a spotlight and it makes it feel more diverse depending on how good itās written
It's nice how alot of the stuff in calamity's narrative is only sort of loosely connected to the main plot
Like most things do somehow eventually trace back to yharim and the crusade etc but beyond that alot of things are kind of like their own self contained subplots
i never knew that calamity had lore except that there was someone telling the stories and history of the different place across the world until the day i joined this discord server
Yharon is Yharim's greatest friend and the most loyal ally
Yeah they're homies
then why in the music its "this is a message to my master" and not "this is a messsage to my friend"
probably because my master sounds cooler
it was written before the new lore
yharim probably is his master from like military position standpoint
cal would aslo call yharim her master, and perma would too, when they were allies with him
probably
as you're talking about cal WHO IS SHE ? like il all lore i heared almsot all boss ( even slime god ) but almost never cal
Calamitas
supreme witch
She's just a girl
she's just a girl who committed genocide against fish people
Ilmeris incineration
she cooked fish
Ilmeris is sunken sea kingdom
she's the reason the desert exists
the only fish people i know is eidolist and i dont even if they are evene fish guy
welllllllll not really
at least, for the surface desert
eidolists came from the lunatic cultist's cult
surface desert always was there
so the sunken thing below the desert is mostly because of her
ilmeran sea is an underground sea
yeah every big island ( well almost ) as a desert part
but because of cal underground desert is bigger
i see
amidias
sea king npc
he was the king of ilmeris
because i mostly never do giznt clam
hurgleblarf
gives you btrb
bruh i though he was just a fish guy but he is a king now ?!
he's literally called the Sea King

amidias is the sea king and hes also a fish guy
yeah it's his npc title
well technically he is the last fish dude that isnt a monster so he is a king for definition
he was already a king before
and tbh
i dont doubt it that therews
other illmerans
we probably just dont find them ingame
i find it highly unlikely a entire species would die like that
they're probably near extinct
but i think its reasonable there ssome out there
giant clam clammed them all 
gargalossoa
Amidias let it go cover
But permafrost let it go cover would be cooler
This but with perma
Dipper and Mabel are terrarian and Cal
norbgun

Yeah I like that
Everything comes together eventually
I liked that about old lore too, everything was just a lot looser admittedly
But having a couple plots going on isnāt horrible
What copy abilities could be introduced if Calamity Mod was a Kirby Game?
most ontopic lore discuss
lets go
I provided context
my kinda calamity mod
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autism from draedon
scal depression ability
just makes kirby sit down and not move forever
SCAL GIVES YOU DEPRESSION
Wheres the image
the creator of autism image
someone get it
the 3 most important calamity character
autistic, depressed and homophobic
Yāall using personality as abilities
there are three wolves inside you
homophobia, depression and autism are their weapons
depression gotta be the worst ability
how do you think yharim survived his encounter with braelor and statis
and kirby copies weapons, both physical and just powers
Auric material
he separated them
auric strengthened by homophobia
FOUND IT
Guys what about Exo Mecha ability upgrade?
lmao
radiation poisoning
He invents everything
Kirby canāt die tho
he can
(Aside from game logic)
why do ppl think kirby is immortal
h's very strong but not immortal
Hmm maybe it could use moves based on Mecha ability and the upcoming Exo Armor stuff
radiation. poisoning.
pronouns if they were evil
these goe hard asf
Is draedon They/them?
no
pronouns are evil
he's a he
Was asking bc he is a robot thing
the au stands for gold
Why is draedon associated with autism I don't get it
yharim can't be homophobic he's a dragonkisser
draedon being the inventor of autism is one of the best bits to come out of this channel
talks to you as if he was talking to you about his newest hyperfixation about exotic resonance or something
he literally infodumps o
on you
Does og exo armor plans have radiation poisoning to actually be added in an update?
i don't remember exactly where the draedon being the inventor of autism bit originated from
he just wants to do random shit and gives zero fucks about social consequences and can't read the room
but it was a conversation in this channel
i was a part of it
and then someone made the image as a result
and now he's just
yharim would set his pronouns to nor/mal
the inventor of autism.
yharim with pronouns just makes me think of that fucking
eric cartman image
draedon does not care what pronouns you use for him
a cross in his bio but instead of a cross it would be a draconic sigil or something
draedon invented autism and INJECTED it into babies
draedon gave me the tism???
for the sake of a experiment he poisoned the water supplies with autism juice
VACCINES!!!!!!
and guess where the water from the vaccines come from
thats right
wake up america...... draedon is turning your kids autistic with his evil vaccines
wake up I'm erica
draedon's dumping exo prisms into the water and turning the champion gay
"It's time for your shots Yharim."
"I don't want them, I feel dumber every time you give me one!"
"You're already dumb, now hold still or I'll hack into your suit and springlock you."
hi erica i'm chees
draedon is the shadow government
we've been over this
i can still make dad jokes even if i'm not a dad.

just adopt calamitas 
you can be whatever you want cheesy
to be fair we're like not that far off eachother
violate those social norms
she could be like my sibling realistically
wait a decade and you'll be older than her
does calamitas age in real time
calamitas will explode when she turns 38
it was written
etched into the fundament of time itself
fundament is such a silly word
you rarely ever see it even though fundamental is relatively common
when calamitas turns 38 i'll be like 33
this si so sad
im getting old
I remember when I was a kid and wanted to be an adult
how old r u again
now I'm an adult and nothing is really different because I turned 18 like 2 months ago
tbh turning 18 in itself dosen't change much
it's when you actually have to start being a responsible adult that you understand the Horrors
i only really started feeling like an adult this year
It's scary yeah
I'm going to night class to get a diploma but tbh after you do actually get into it it's not so bad
in california we get free college though so bonuses
at best it's kind of boring
my teacher is creepy but oh well
it could be alot worse
my attention spam has gotten alot better now than it was like 4 years ago though so i can actually pay attention to class now, atleast thtay's cool
nah
turning 18 is cool
you get alcohol
and gambling
oh my god... i can Drink and Gamble....
it was like when you have the nights edge at the end of pre hardmode
but then actually starting to have an adult life was like entering hardmode and having a giant tortoise snipe you from 50 kilometers away as soon as you step in the jungle
it's illegal to gamble in california unless you're in a native american reservation and I can't drink till I'm 21 :(
WHAT
i hate beer
its WHAT
havent had that one
i prefer spirits and such tho
yeah same
mm vodky
one time I was drinking milk out of a mug and my mom's friend was drinking beer out of the same type of mug and I accidentally picked it up and drank it and it was awful
yeah .
I was like
but mid is fine
12
damn
luckily I ran to the sink and spit it out before I swallowed any
i don't drink too often but when i do its usually just vodka mixed drinks
those actually taste good
crazy
that but it's men and it's fornite
when they evnetually joined i just kept playing horse noises on the music bot
and nothing else
i discovered my sexuality while watching a magical girl anime
I haven't discovered my sexuality
good luck soldier
thats the easy part
i had to go to hell and back in terms of sexuality until i finally realized i was a lesbian
telling people is even harder bro
I'm straight until proven not straight
i am not open about being a lesbian to like anyone in my family š
well
my aunt
she's the only one left l m a o
im only open to my sister since she is bi, neither of us have told our parents
"anyone in my family" WHFCIH FAMILY
is it socially unacceptable to be gay in brazil
i feel like most countries are supportive
its got good lgbt laws and the president isnt homophobic as far as i'm concerned so
id say theres more supportive countries than ones that arent supportive but also the onjes that arent just so happen to be the biggest ones
like usa and russia and etc
yeah the US isn't terrible about it though I live in california which is pretty much the most progressive state lol
like ofc
australia is fine
every country will have like
australia is like 50/50 progressive, conservative
SOME amount of people who support and who dont
but if you factor in the ppl in charge + the majority of the population
most of the rly powerful big countries r more homophobic than not homophobic
yeaa
there are more progressive people in the US than conservatives but the conservatives go through a lot of effort to make sure they keep some amount of power

yea this is true
there are like two centrist slightly left, slighty right parties in australia
and then two extreme parties
and the two centrist parties are pretty chill
and then win all the time
The US technically has more than 2 parties but uh
yea
I bet you've never heard of any aside from red and blue
I was just making a joke because honestly I barely know any parties aside from the main ones
I hate party politics so much
but the democrats and repubs are all that matters
I hate that they've ingrained themselves so deep into our government systems that they're literally official parts of it
one party system honestly aint that bad
actually no disney is evil
that's definitely something I'd like to hear your reasoning for
your ass is not an adult man
well no shit but is the party ever good
by definition I'm an adult, I was saying nothing is really different because of how little time I've been one
yeah
fair enough
i love being an adult and paying bills and doing taxes
socialism can also work in moderation
i love socialismm
every country that has a federal government has some amount of socialism
kinda
socialism is when the government does stuff
what
and the more stuff it does, the more socialist it is
socialism is when the society as a whole benefits from the work of its constituents
rather than just that one person
and when the government does a real lot of stuff, that's communism
you can have big companies and corporations and still have socialist aspects
like the US, or most of Europe, etc.
the world would be good if money never existed
like if money was just nevr invented
it would be waesome
i hate money
I like money
root of all evil or smt
yea so does everyone
because society tells me that it's good
yeah aren't you supposed to moderate us
yharim would never
dictator
nah you guys chill
wrong
what if the guy who got to attune to yharon was elected democratically
kill everyone
as long as you dont break rules, and dont disturb someone trying to lore discuss
then its finee
what if the town npcs could hold an election and overthrow you for making them live in tiny boxes with no bathrooms
actually no I would just kill them if they tried
it would be super annoying if I allowed democracy to take hold
lore
how long did it take yharim to gather up his army and start the crusade
given that he got dipped in lava, i would say he had a few months to recover first
then again, yharon was there and he's got auric magic or something
well I think I heard somewhere that yharim is between 130-200 years old
yeah he's about 130
he should run for senate
so the crusade ended like 10 years ago
which means that the crusade ended when he was like 120
we don't know how old he was when he was thrown into hell with yharim's egg though
just that he was like, of age or smth
so like, at least 18 then
whatever age they decided he was appropriate to make god-king
i doubt the gods would have let someone younger than that be their king
it's also moronic to me that they decided to throw yharon's egg into hell with him
like
they could've kept it
why didnt they just get another guy
calamity wouldnt exist if they waited like 30 seconds before throwing the egg in
at least i assume that's what the line
their meek, ingratiated swine
is reffering to their followers
are they stupid?
shouldn't have put phil on execution duty again
alright i gave up trying to draw this on mspaint, have this alt instead
amazing
she expolrded
my reaction
guh
calamitas needs to be killed
I wouldn't even mind
but I wish calamitas's eyes were orange still
I liked that better
are they not?
they're red now
arent they just tinted with her magic
why is calamitas's sprite pink again i forgot
was it like
a hue shading error or something
idk im not a spriter
i thought it was just the lighting from her magic
and so it just kinds evens out to pinkish
i think it's supposed to be that
but then even after the fight she's like
still pink
she's never off-guard
wait she's pink as a town npc
ye
I'm stoning calamitas
i'm guessing they forgot to turn her gray in her npc form
we don't accept pink people in my terraria town
racist
š¤Æ
literally yharim 2
only if you're looking with your eyes
Hello Roy devs
good morrow
clearly
I like parmesan
my favorite
except for gouda
I like gouda better
but you can't sprinkle gouda on italian food
If your cheese? Are you edible?
she should get the edible role on sscls iirc
Did you just change your profile picture to needy streamer overload?
she changed it in just this server because of nitro and sometimes it glitches out and doesn't load right away
Oh okay
Fovos fact: Iād kick his ass even at full power
Full power fovos gets his powers from his magnificent legs
True, he must be Steve
I wish there was an addon to fight full power fovos
I'm assuming he would be a post yharim superboss fought before Noxus
Noxus is strange, in raw destructive power he even beats xeroc
but... how? time travel to kill full power fovos to... prevent him from invading zeratros, and when you come back to the original timeline, you find there is no yharim anymore since dragons era never ended...
yeah cei put full power fovos over noxus in power level
Idk, addons most of the time throw calamity lore in the trash
hahaha
(makes sense, it's kinda hard to work with) 
Have to say that doesn't necessarily mean that noxus could beat xeroc
it seems that full power xeroc is greatly stronger than full power zeratros...?
Yea
Xeroc is by far the strongest character in calamity lore
I can not imagine how, though
Wait this would mean an average auric dragon is like dragonfolly level
Maybe he trained
pw is stronger than average auric dragon lol
btw, pw is said to be blessed by silva, was this after she... died?
She's kinda stuck in a vegative state
Slowly regenerating
Some devs said she might be added as an ambient feature
In the bg
i wonder if she would be willing to converse with the player about several beings in the world and her view on them
then what does "Disposing of Silva's remains" in the world generation screen mean
She can't
She can't really
Talk
Because
Idk
Maybe telepathically but still she might be unconscious
telepathy?
like, yharim or someone is regarding her as dead?
sad...
what happened to her in the up to date lore, anyway?
did she still support Statis and Braelor?
well
they DID dispose of her remains
it's just that those remains are still alive
and they'll like. turn back into a person at some point probably.
well not probably they literally will do that Eventually
it'll jsut take some time.
that is a gigantic gap, holy shit xeroc
okay... that makes... sence
Xeroc's the "I let you win" boss
wait, dreadon said she indeed made braelor's axe
She was Braelor's goddess so
Braelor is Statis's "compatriot", and Statis seems to be from the Onyx Kingsman that worshiped the Slime God and revered Signus...
"compatriot" is definitely a way to put it
I figure Slime God and Silva might've had some sort of partnership
they're both gods with a strong focus on nature
it makes sence that gods cooperate... but this remind me of... Providence
Amidias wishes the player to kill her, Signus is still hunting her down (or not?), seems she have a bad fame even within the gods side
yeah everybody hates providence
because providence hates everybody
her whole MO is to kill everyone and that means nobody likes her
she used to be a "visionary", and had three seemingly close friends, but right after she consumed the auric soul, she became... like this
Having great power corrupted her
or the auric soul itself... I mean, it's a "soul" anyway
I don't mean it literally corrupted her
I meant that being put in a spot of high power makes people think they can do whatever they want and become self centered
nuh uh, i will never get corrupted by power
not me
i have strong moral character and values
anyway
me when someone creates the slightest inconvenience
yes I understood you are intended so
the game take as default that you don't want to kill calamitas lol
that's true
i built her a house before i fought her
every other npc got a wooden box prison
but its cool to believe that zeratros still lives in our... Xeroc's heart, isn't it (x
What
I'm joking

Most definitely it wasn't the soul itself that turned her into this i don't think
Nothing so far seems to imply ascending makes you go crazy
Tyrian, Otonilou and Xeroc for one all seem to still have been pretty Normal after ascending
Providence most likely fell into insanity on her own
Also worth noting that there isn't really a ''Side of the gods", gods are mostly independent and the ones that have a relation with eachother don't have it just because they're gods, it's usually because they share goals or morals in common
(Ex, Tyrian and Otonilou, presumably Slime God and Silva)
what if a dragon absorbed a human soul
Thereās a dragon inside all of us, but especially Xeroc
The friend inside meā¦..
do you believe in mana
Sombody else see yharim having red hair
who is Tyrian, the elusive God of the Seas? What happened to this god?
he was gobberfuckstomped by yharim
What a... straightforward story
Did he die? or did Otonilou die? did they become pollution, or DoG food?
or are they designed to remain mysteries
Maybe they have different stories in cal and some addons
Otonilou and Tyrian were incinerated with the rest of the kingdom
Considering how dog was around by this point, he probably ate their essences afterwards
My
Imagine every time dog devoured an essence he just say "yummers"
maybe there was a dragon of gluttony or something (x
I wonder
Imagine in some addon where Otonilou lived and hid away
threw her spear to an endgame player, wishing them to give yharim her retribution

erm
Chat is this image real
juggling five pebbles
nuh uh, auric soul of life
where would exotechnology land on the kardachev scale
while exoprisms technically have unlimited energy, their output is still limited, which is why draedon has to mass-produce them
i want to take a bite out of one
ah yeah makes sense
massive amount of theoretical energy, low throughput
does calamity have any lore explaination for the hallowed
ye
it was created much like the evil biomes, being the result of leftover divine essence taking over the land
but in the case of evil biomes
they were the essences of malicious gods
with the hallow it was the opposite, with it being formed by the essence of benevolent gods
which is probably why yharim sealed it fully inside WoF whilst he kept some of the evil biome outside, because then people would only see the remains of evil gods
which would be beneficial for his anti-god propaganda and all that

Yharim? Twisting the narrative? But he's the secret hero, a good guy... Yeah I only read the lore items how can you tell
Makes you wonder if xeroc is even the evil traitor, since the only one you hear about him from is... Yharim
literally had this argument with someone like 2 hours ago
xeroc? not despicable and deserving of eradication? preposterous
that's actually really clever, it wasn't planned but all the pieces fall into place really nicely
I mean, the only god that we see in game we can definitely say is evil is Providence
(the one feverishly killing said gods)
we also get a really bad first impression from ravager
but you cant really blame him
since he's basically a machine in this state
imagine if we got a concept of the god of sacrifices when he was alive
ravager rework concept just got made ofc
so this one isn't as far fetched
Yeh it sort of reatroactively works out
Oh you wanna sacrifice today... Ugh fineeeee
yeah i believe it's canon that he's pretty benevolent?
I don't think its mentioned
i recall one of the writers saying that
we do know his believers were really attached to him
could be wrong though lemme check
since they were willing to kill themselves just to bring him back
i would love GOS to be a good guy
it's an interesting twist if the god of sacrifices was less about sacrificing others but more about sacrificing himself for others
it would be a cool subversion and could make for a really cool tragic story
Makes sense, what better way to bring the god of sacrifice back then to sacrifice yourself
I love it because it makes Yharim's argument fall even flatter on its face
"hey look at this MONSTROUS CREATURE, its a god and its EVIL"
and he just turns out to be a cool guy
can we try to powerscale yharim based off of the information we have currently?
very curious about that
@wheat walrus wake up nerd
lol
Infact what if it's sacrifice in a good connotation? Like sacrificing your future for your children
Sacrifice isn't inherently negative
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WGHtCM189rw6uVTbWvDWFtrt_X8p3x_c/view this is the doc I made for powerscaling calamity
right now, it needs some updating, especially for speed scaling since there's none rn
scarifice could be small and efficient, work is literally scarifice in a sense
scarificing time and effort for food
thanks bro
or money is a more broad term
That just makes me imagine the god of beutacracy, the most evil god ever made
i imagine the god's society would be very believing in scarifice is the way of life.
god of capitalism
Truly evil
would god of scarifice ability be in the sense that, if you give something or throw something out, they will replace it with something of equal value?
i have commited a felony
me when i spread misinformation
the god of capitalism is the monopoly man
and he only embodies the good parts of capitalism
the bad parts are uh
we don't talk about it
god of equivalent exchange

the god of capitalism implies a dragon of capitalism (or similar)
ah yes, Smaug



