#lore-discussion

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pliant ruin
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what counts as actual spells/magica nd what's just, magical effects that aren't actually magic

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like, i don't think red lightning from dragonfolly counts as magic

warm gull
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is a magical effect not magic??

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like

pliant ruin
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i'm bad at phrasing things but like

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you know in dungeons and dragons

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theres actual spells

warm gull
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If I use magic to make a red lightning bolt is that not magic

spring helm
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like stuff that seems magical but isnt actually magic

pliant ruin
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and then theres some monsters that can do effects that by all means seem magical in nature but arent actual spells

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i like to think that the main difference is

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magical effects like red lightning involve specific adaptations the dragonfolly as that are natural to it

warm gull
spring helm
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here's an example
in avatar: the last airbender the bending they do isn't magic right?

pliant ruin
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a spell that summons red lightning involves the caster changing the fabric of mana around them to do a effect that is similar to that of dragonfolly that they learned through the studyo f magic

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so more or less

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magic spells are you changing the very fabric of mana to get a desired result that would be identical to the natural magical abilities of a dragonfolly

warm gull
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oh so you're saying like

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A spell you learn

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Vs a creature's natural ability thar just happens to tap into mana

spring helm
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or maybe doesnt tap into mana at all

warm gull
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stevin lin lived in a tower

spring helm
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look at the sea prisms

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wait that's minecraft

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no wait that's correct

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i'm confusing myself

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okay

spring helm
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sea prisms according to draedon glow indefinately

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and through some sci-fi bullshit i dont understand he managed to create a source of infinite energy out of that

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are the sea prisms magic?

pliant ruin
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I mean

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they're definitely not something scientifically possible using the laws of physics in real life

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Whether that's magic or just funky fantasy setting rules

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Debatable

visual kiln
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physics of calamity mod

pliant ruin
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_ _

visual kiln
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I should eep I think

pliant ruin
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U SHOULD

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I KEEP TELLING U

visual kiln
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Okiiiii

warm gull
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I thought you were gonna go to bed

visual kiln
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Gnnn

pliant ruin
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aza pleas

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u have to wake up early!!

visual kiln
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Calsad I’m Sorry

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;-;

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Gnnn

pliant ruin
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godnighty

wheat walrus
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THEY ACTUALLY USED FERRARIA IN THE FANDOM LORE WTF

crimson finch
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Ferraria

warm gull
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omni jumpscare

spring helm
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oh hey it's july 9

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still warned calsad

warm gull
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How does one get warned in calmain

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Never been

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I guess there's probably a lot of factors

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(Idk if the mods even check lore dicussion)

spring helm
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oh they do

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just not as often as the other channels

magic epoch
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it doesn't happen automatically

spring helm
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Right

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Anyway there’s this thing that I found while I was spewing word vomit onto google docs

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As you may know, stars are concentrations of magic that form over countless years of ambient mana gathering together in deep space.

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Magic can concentrate

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While this seems obvious this rules out a definition of magic for calamity I was cooking up.

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Doesn’t this mean that magic just spontaneously occurs when enough mana gathers

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Idk where I was going with this

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Good night lore channel

sinful adder
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Yes

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"concentrate" just means "gathers in one spot'

crimson finch
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I’m a landlord, Yharim is my tenant.
The Rent is due, and he’s paying in blood.

magic epoch
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🔥✍️

neat tinsel
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if your man is hot, loyal, and a good singer, then that ain’t your man, that’s Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth

crimson finch
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Yeahhh I should probably fix the original eye

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And have it covered so the troll eye would fit

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Better

buoyant inlet
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Very rough calclone sketch

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The scrap mech

real silo
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Mister electric

crimson finch
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Send him to the principals office and have him expelled!!!

buoyant inlet
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Calcium

cloud ibex
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KILL HIM NOW

hollow plaza
real silo
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I just noticed the little dude on the right

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why her horns asymmetrical

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mf didn't look in a mirror while installing them horns

buoyant inlet
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That's clone herself

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She's just quirky like that

crimson finch
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I miss bandaged booboo owchie CalClone

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I lost a part of myself finding out she’s scrapped

slate trellis
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get over it

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is what i wouldve said if i too hadn't lost a part of me

buoyant inlet
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Just move on

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It's been 1,5 years

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No need to grieve old concepts

crimson finch
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I will

buoyant inlet
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When new ones can be made

slate trellis
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same

buoyant inlet
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Weak mindset

slate trellis
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for it isn't the same

crimson finch
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What’s next, This SG sprite is scrapped?

buoyant inlet
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No it's new one

crimson finch
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I’m gulping paint thinner listening to joji

slate trellis
crimson finch
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what?

buoyant inlet
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What?

crimson finch
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exactly

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like

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Que?

buoyant inlet
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The yapper

slate trellis
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what

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oh shit

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that wasnt me

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sry bout that

mighty zenith
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schizophrenia

slate trellis
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my brother likes to go on my laptop sometimes

buoyant inlet
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Alright

crimson finch
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Sure bud

buoyant inlet
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Either way

slate trellis
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?

crimson finch
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Yeah u right

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It’s sad, I really liked that design

slate trellis
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wt design

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why am i here

buoyant inlet
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Iban is a very cool and creative artist, but it doesn't mean you can't make ideas that are as cool as his

crimson finch
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but new ones hopefully blow that one out of the water

slate trellis
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i dont even play terraria

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is this terraira?

crimson finch
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Dementia arc 🔥

slate trellis
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i ma give u a sister i f u dont be quit

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e

buoyant inlet
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No need to grieve Iban's concepts when you can admire them and use them as inspiration for your own ideas

slate trellis
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cool

crimson finch
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Anywho

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Yeah u right throudon

slate trellis
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have u

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done

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the

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no

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mother challenge while being 6-8 years old

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its quiet easy

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gentlemen let us discuss thy most important topic

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how big are they really?

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think about it...

buoyant inlet
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Man are you character ai bot going rogue

crimson finch
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holy shit rogue calamity mod

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🔥

calm patio
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what

crimson finch
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This borb appears when the word rogue is muttered

buoyant inlet
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Hi borb

crimson finch
calm patio
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hello throudon

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and no i came here what that fella was talking about

crimson finch
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Oh lmao

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We don’t know at this point

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He might be fighting Delirium from TBoI

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Or he has a fly in his head flying around accidentally whacking his brain

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Beats me, don’t know anything going on

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But what I do know

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Is that 4:45 AM is bed time

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Gn y’all

buoyant inlet
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Gn

pliant ruin
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strange specimen in the chat today

buoyant inlet
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I think they're either high or it's literally character ai lmao

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Honestly with the way they type I think it's the former

pliant ruin
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i mean i don't think character ai can make a discord account so i guess they're drunk or high or something

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If i get proven wrong that's concerning

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The revolution has begun

warm gull
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I have no body

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I am just text in a cold steel coffin

buoyant inlet
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I mean like a bot that can adapt and talk on discord

pliant ruin
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Yeah even then

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that's crazy

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revolution has begun

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i'd be greatly concerned if stuff like that already exists

vernal jewel
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is the lunatic cultist a follower of a dragon or moonlord himself?

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I just read LC's whisper drop

calm patio
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they dont follow the moonlord

mighty zenith
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lc's whisper doesnt talk about him anyway

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its used as a flashback basically

vernal jewel
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I got a bit confused

vernal jewel
mighty zenith
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the monk? thats not LC

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that's xeroc

vernal jewel
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the one mortal?

pliant ruin
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lunatic cultist is a follower of the dragons

mighty zenith
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yeah prelude and requiem talk about the past, back when the first god ascended

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moon lord was involved but cultist wasnt

vernal jewel
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this one

pliant ruin
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ye

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not to do with lc

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poor lc getting the short end of the stick when it comes to lore

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he is the leader of the dragon cult

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and thats it

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lol

mighty zenith
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yeah he's mentioned like

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once

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i really hope the archives books give more insight into them

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cause LC can be a really cool character actually, if given the chance

pliant ruin
vernal jewel
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yea

pliant ruin
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Lore items being my arch enemy as always

mighty zenith
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yep

vernal jewel
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also wtf, the war is partially DoG's fault too?

mighty zenith
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whar

pliant ruin
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no not really

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dog is just a dick

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but he isnt really responsible for anything

vernal jewel
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what's the name of the guy whispering to you again

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I forgot

pliant ruin
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except killing people, i guess

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yharim

mighty zenith
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Yharim

mint tendon
vernal jewel
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so Yharim tried to recruit DoG and got lied to

pliant ruin
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he isn't

mighty zenith
mint tendon
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as yharim himself says in his lore drop

pliant ruin
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yharim was a bitch from the start

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exactl

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yharim himself

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lol

mint tendon
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yeah

pliant ruin
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yharim, well known for being trustworthy and reliable

mighty zenith
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nonbiased narrator 😊

pliant ruin
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and definitely not known for manipulating others or to lie in favour of his own ideals

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like. his goal from the start was genocide.

mint tendon
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who knows he might have been a factor in making him worse lol

pliant ruin
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you can't really "turn tyrannical" when your goal is genocide

mighty zenith
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yeah like

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yharon made yharim far far worse than DoG ever could

pliant ruin
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dog literally didnt do anything besides killing people lol which like that's bad but he's not responsible for any of the greater events that happened

vernal jewel
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says something about his negligence being born cuz of him and making him do "awful acts"

mighty zenith
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yharim expressed he doesnt like DoG several times, so of course he'd try to slander him

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to bring blame away from himself and yharon

pliant ruin
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dog is an asshole but dont blame him for yharims actions

mighty zenith
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(DoG is still a dick, but i dont think he's the reason yharim is a bigger asshole)

pliant ruin
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^

mint tendon
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k

vernal jewel
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I like how he mentions something about DoG being a mere pawn

pliant ruin
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like

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yharim goes

mint tendon
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welp guess ill go kill primordial wyrm for funny fish gun

pliant ruin
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"yeah... dog MANIPULATED me..."

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yet

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he never once says how he did it

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lol

pliant ruin
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he dosen't even say what dog's manipulation made him do

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he legit just yapping

vernal jewel
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do we get to fight this malevolence far beyond?

pliant ruin
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Possibly ™️

vernal jewel
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please

pliant ruin
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Depends on the devs mood after the mod is finished

mint tendon
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"awful acts" as if he wasn't commiting acts of mass genocide on literally every god disregarding whether or not they truly are innocent

pliant ruin
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"yeah man this dog guy. he suckss ughhh. anyways time to commit genocide. ims o cool.

vernal jewel
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where is this Dragon's Aerie? added yet or nah?

pliant ruin
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no

vernal jewel
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Also, who's Silva?

pliant ruin
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gonna be where you fight yharim in 200 years when hes added

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silva is the goddess of life

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yharim threw her in the abyss

mint tendon
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I think she wasn't too bad

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idk

vernal jewel
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is there like, anything down the abyss where we can see her or traces of her?

pliant ruin
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she by all means is "dead" but since she's immortal she's actually Not Dead and will come back to life fully eventually

mint tendon
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planty mush

pliant ruin
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yah

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planty mush

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and also

mint tendon
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its her influence

pliant ruin
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primordial wyrm

mint tendon
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right

pliant ruin
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and also just the life on the abyss as a whole

vernal jewel
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the colossal squid is an ass though

mint tendon
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wait fr

pliant ruin
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the reason they get so big in such a realistically barely livable enviroment is because of silva

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like yes even in real life you get

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deep sea life

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but deep sea life is stupid little fish that eat dust and crabs that eat bubbles

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but in the abyss its like

vernal jewel
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is the bottom of the abyss intentionally so big?

pliant ruin
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i dont know fucking giant shark and dragons

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shes the reason life does so well on the abyss

solar wharf
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silva gives them healthy mutations!!!

mint tendon
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theres literal fucking sharks that live down there

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not small ones

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big ones

solar wharf
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shin godzilla could never :((

pliant ruin
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in the abyss

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not in real life

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lol

mint tendon
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and im talking about real life

pliant ruin
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no there isnt

mint tendon
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yes

pliant ruin
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dude

vernal jewel
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there's actually giant fish in the deep sea

pliant ruin
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i am THE fish nerd you are NOT arguign with me on this matter

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no there isn't

mint tendon
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i forgor what it was called but there certainly are

vernal jewel
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of course, we don't know that since we don't know much of deep sea lore irl yet

mint tendon
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also giant squids

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also like

vernal jewel
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Deep Sea Lore IRL isn't done yet XD

mint tendon
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shit isnt that small in the depths of the ocean

solar wharf
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those are deep but arent near the actual floor

pliant ruin
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there is literally nothing down there but crabs and barnacles and snailfish

solar wharf
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like the marina trench

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^

mint tendon
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understandable

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the abyss isnt that deep tho

solar wharf
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it is suppose to be that deep

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its just gameplay effects

mint tendon
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also wouldnt it be cool if hydrothermal vents had a different bar which would burn you if you stayed too long XD

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(ok i just realised how stupid that is because we can survive literal lava why would we get burned by hot water)

mighty zenith
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me when flames from the world's center (nothing)
me when hot water

pliant ruin
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deep sea life in calamity:

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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ancient beings forgotten by history, capable of literally using magic, related to the mighty dragons of yore

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deep sea life in real life:

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dumbass

mighty zenith
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fimshe

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he looks like a dumbass i love him

pliant ruin
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snailfish are THE stupid animal they look so goofy

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why did it

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ok

mighty zenith
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embed catastrophe

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ryo

pliant ruin
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embed calamity

solar wharf
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who censored my boy ryo

mighty zenith
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come out bitch

solar wharf
mint tendon
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embed fail laugh at him

solar wharf
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i think that shit is too advanced for it

pliant ruin
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he has 2 brain cells ❤️

mighty zenith
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he's 2 braincells in debt

pliant ruin
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:p

mint tendon
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(just saying bloatfish are also stupid as hell)

mighty zenith
mint tendon
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(atleast in infernum)

pliant ruin
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bloatfish are like what if you got sunfish but made them dumber

mint tendon
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and covered them in rocks

pliant ruin
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sunfish r so goofy i love them

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this animal is not correct

mighty zenith
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bloatfish are stupid like why would you live in the part with the colossal fucking monsters that could eat you in a milisecond

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stupid fish

mint tendon
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they dont choose to live there :(

mighty zenith
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probably doesnt even do taxes

solar wharf
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how do they even clean themselves, or is there no parasites down there

vernal jewel
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what's Calamitas' lore?

pliant ruin
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gnhajkigawbg

mint tendon
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they're just chonky

pliant ruin
solar wharf
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nvm

mint tendon
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she was recruited by yharim as a child soldier

pliant ruin
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Time to get the sad witch bible

mighty zenith
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witchfailure

pliant ruin
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witchfailure

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true

solar wharf
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i like how we are doing everything BUT explaining it to my boy

pliant ruin
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Calamitas lore is like

alot

mint tendon
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she then proceeded to burn down an entire fucking country under his orders (reminder that ilmeris was supposed to be a really hydrated country)

pliant ruin
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Okay so

mint tendon
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i think she was azafurian or smthn?

wheat walrus
vernal jewel
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A kingdom is a country too, no?

mint tendon
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a kingdom is a kind of country dumbahh-

solar wharf
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its a monarch one

vernal jewel
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got nerded

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damn

wheat walrus
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It's fiction

mint tendon
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a country under the rule of a monarch is a kingdom

pliant ruin
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She lived in azafure with her brothers, Azafure was allied with Yharim at this time. One day the Brimstone Elemental attacked Azafure and she tried to protect her brothers from the attack but uberknowst to her she got a massive surge of power she never had before that she could not control which resulted in her and the brimstone elemental's duel destroying azafure and by extension her own family

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BREATHES IN

mint tendon
wheat walrus
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They refer to cittis as kigdoms sometimes 🤨

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In fiction

vernal jewel
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holy shit

solar wharf
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well then they are using the wrong definition man

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also maybe its like, a 1 city 1 country type of bullshit

vernal jewel
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Calamitas killed her own family?

wheat walrus
solar wharf
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you never know

wheat walrus
vernal jewel
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Not intentionally of course

mint tendon
solar wharf
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so when you gain abilites beyond ur literal comprehenison at the age of like 8

wheat walrus
mint tendon
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and made the brimstone crags

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right i forgor

wheat walrus
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A city-state as of a developer

vernal jewel
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I thought Calamitas was mourning for the Brimstone Elemental's death after you kill her

solar wharf
mint tendon
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nope

solar wharf
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to happen

vernal jewel
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oh, right

mint tendon
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still cool

solar wharf
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brimstone elemental was the one that kinda made her go berzerk no?

mighty zenith
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calamitas mourning brimmy is like

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the most out of character thing she'd ever do

vernal jewel
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I mean like, it kinda connects to lore if she was mourning for her brothers' death instead

wheat walrus
mighty zenith
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if it was right after you got to azafure for the first time

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then sure

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thats fine

vernal jewel
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could be like she couldn't visit due to the brimstone elemental's presence you know

wheat walrus
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Can be argued ig

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And interpreted differently

warm gull
pliant ruin
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After this Yharim saw potential in her because well the toddler just blew up a city even if unwillingly so Yharim recruited her into his army. Calamitas would be more or less fathered by Permafrost who at this time was Yharim's counselor. Permafrost told her about magic and tried to be a Actually Good Father Figure but unfortunately Yharim filled her with Propaganda Soup and took her in funny little secret missions behind Permafrost's back. One of these resulted in the incineration of Illmeris, the sunken sea's now destroyed kingdom. Mind you, all of this happened while Calamitas was still a teenager, according to devs around her 13-16 years, possibly.
As Calamitas grew up she'd eventually realize the horrible things she had done under Yharim's lies and manipulation and the last drop of water for her to finally leave his army was when he asked her to kill Permafrost, who had left his ranks prior. Not being able to kill her own father figure, they had a tearful confrontation or something along those lines, whatever that may mean, and it ended up resulting in Permafrost being sealed inside Cryogen, but not killed.

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BREATHES IN

warm gull
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wtf

pliant ruin
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Now she lives in a cave.

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Ok that's everything

warm gull
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wall of text has awoken

pliant ruin
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Also she's really depressed and traumatized and stuff. That too. Also she lives in a cave, did i say that? I just think that's badass.

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I'd live in a cave if i could

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nvm no i wouldnt

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thats fucking stupid why would i do that

vernal jewel
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she lives in a waht?

mint tendon
pliant ruin
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like

solar wharf
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if this is what u allow out, i do NOT want to know whats inside that head of urs.

mighty zenith
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a cave like

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like cave story

mint tendon
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until you beat her

warm gull
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Dude chill on calamitas

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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yeah like a cave story

pliant ruin
vernal jewel
warm gull
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imo she's like the most generic of the main cast tbh

pliant ruin
mint tendon
scenic olive
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Calamitas live in a cave and has a fish for a friend

warm gull
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not necessarily bad

mighty zenith
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a cave but you have a gun and you kill bunny creatures

pliant ruin
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I don't see how calamitas is generic i'd say she's not more but also not less unique than most of the rest of the main cast

solar wharf
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a cave, but its called "hell" and you fight this "archangel" that never stops complaining

pliant ruin
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they're all pretty damn unique

wheat walrus
vernal jewel
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it'd be awesome if Calamitas joins the future Yharim fight like Hornet

pliant ruin
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except like, providence. and to be fair we're lacking in the providence lore department.

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i still like providence though she's terrible

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but like

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that's cool.

solar wharf
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shes terrible in a cool way

pliant ruin
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from a character writing standpoint it's cool to have a character that's just. man i really wanna kill everyone.

pliant ruin
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like. it's simple but it works you know. good way to make a evil bastard.

solar wharf
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what if instead of omni, he was called omnicide...

warm gull
solar wharf
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for some reason/

mint tendon
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epic

pliant ruin
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"has backstory trauma" is not something id really count as a character trait

mint tendon
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I'd live in that cave

wheat walrus
mighty zenith
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what if instead of omni it was onii and i decided to jump off a bridge

warm gull
solar wharf
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LMO

vernal jewel
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mon hon

pliant ruin
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i'm 99% certain we will get a explanation for it

wheat walrus
warm gull
solar wharf
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i missed the A man

mint tendon
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what more do you need really

pliant ruin
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she didn't reallty

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force them

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they wanted to die lol

vernal jewel
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who can tell the truth about Yharim then, if Yharim spouts some bias and lies at you?

mint tendon
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I suppose

solar wharf
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ye they joined because they are also equally as fucked

pliant ruin
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providence

mint tendon
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draedon?

pliant ruin
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wait

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WAIT

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SOMEONE

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PLEASE

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MAKE THAT GIF WITH PROVI

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I BEG

solar wharf
mighty zenith
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make that gif with provig

pliant ruin
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Also draedon

solar wharf
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unless its obviously a lie

pliant ruin
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he's pretty non biased for the most part

warm gull
mint tendon
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draedon is an absolutely unbiased source

vernal jewel
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But then again, I feel like Yharim would actually be honest with ya (of course, with little bias still) since like, he kinda wants to be defeated or something?

mint tendon
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hes a robot with no emotion or allegiance

mighty zenith
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draedon just

pliant ruin
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He wants you to succeed him lol

vernal jewel
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why does he talk to you that way anyway

mighty zenith
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doesnt really have a reason to lie

warm gull
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Draedon being an unfeeling robotic scientist who only wants progress is also pretty generic yeah

pliant ruin
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He's trying to manipulate you into becoming the next godseeker

vernal jewel
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succeed him how?

pliant ruin
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He's armstrong

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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you know armstrong

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metal gear rising

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you know how armstrong is like

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woww raiden we are like the same

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you should keep going

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with my legacy

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even if you kill me

wheat walrus
warm gull
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The only main cast guy who is harder to fit into a trope category is xeroc tbh

pliant ruin
#

im dead but i won because youll keep my legacy alive

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yeah

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thats yharim

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he wants you to succeed him

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he's old and senile

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he's literally gonna die from natural causes in like

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10 years

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he knows hes gonna die

vernal jewel
#

what is his goal again?

pliant ruin
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so

mint tendon
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thats it

pliant ruin
#

he wants you to fight him because

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even if he dies

mighty zenith
wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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hes believing you will succeed him

mighty zenith
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thats not gonna stop me from enjoying them

pliant ruin
#

The cast is mostly like

wheat walrus
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Wym "GOD. That's it"

mighty zenith
#

generic things are generic for a reason usually

vernal jewel
#

so is Calamity gonna have like, 2 endings?

pliant ruin
#

ideas that seem generic on paper

warm gull
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Yeah I don't have any problems with them

pliant ruin
#

but like

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with really good execution

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that makes them interesting

mint tendon
mighty zenith
mint tendon
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exists

mighty zenith
#

you kill yharim

solar wharf
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he should ask draedon to upload his consciousness into a cool robot body

mighty zenith
#

that's technically the end of the story

mint tendon
#

so like a typical god character

mighty zenith
#

it ends with yharim's death
anything after is just extras

pliant ruin
#

He wants to kill every single god

vernal jewel
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I don't get it

solar wharf
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and everyone who follows said god

pliant ruin
#

and also their followers but that's more of like a side tangent

mint tendon
wheat walrus
warm gull
vernal jewel
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he killed Silva, we killed DoG, are there other gods?

solar wharf
warm gull
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Some might say impossible

mint tendon
solar wharf
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
mint tendon
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hes commiting genocide

mighty zenith
#

there have been hundreds upon thousands of gods in the past

wheat walrus
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The chain

pliant ruin
#

there's alot of gods and yharim wants to kill all of them

mighty zenith
#

we arrive really really late

pliant ruin
#

hes killed most of them already

mighty zenith
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so most of them are dead

vernal jewel
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dog isn't a god but as a Devourer of Gods himself he's kinda like a god, yk?

pliant ruin
#

no

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not really

mighty zenith
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not how it works

pliant ruin
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god isn't just ''powerful being" in calamity lore

mint tendon
#

agianst "gods" (people who absorbed the souls of dragons)

pliant ruin
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theres a specific definition for it

solar wharf
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god does not just mean a very powerful being or immortal, it means a being that absorbed an auric soul and ascended

vernal jewel
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so how many Gods are left alive?

pliant ruin
#

like

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3

mint tendon
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like

pliant ruin
#

4

mighty zenith
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we know of three

solar wharf
#

DoG never consumed an auric soul

mighty zenith
#

maybe 4 if you count silva

pliant ruin
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Xeroc, Silva, Providence, Slime God

vernal jewel
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which ones, name em

mighty zenith
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5 if you REALLY stretch it to count ravager too

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but hes technically dead

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so hes like
a zombie basically

solar wharf
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ravager is a dead god's body

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^

vernal jewel
#

ravager "was" a god?

pliant ruin
#

Xeroc and Silva are the only two that actually survive by the end of the story

solar wharf
#

ye

pliant ruin
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Yeah because he's like

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

dead

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So he's kind of a god debatably

mint tendon
#

when did nogus get removed from lore

pliant ruin
#

nogus?

solar wharf
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noxus?

pliant ruin
#

oh wait

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noxus?

vernal jewel
#

amogus

pliant ruin
#

he's still there

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he's just not a god

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he's uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

_ _

mint tendon
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so hes not a god anymore

warm gull
#

They made him not a god

mighty zenith
#

i miss nomon tbh

wheat walrus
mint tendon
#

he just exists

wheat walrus
mighty zenith
solar wharf
#

noxus never got removed, hes like another worldly horror or something (thats not confirmed either lmao)

pliant ruin
#

he's a scary guy probably

vernal jewel
#

can we get a calamity lore anime

pliant ruin
#

if anything noxus is probably like

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stronger than literally every god minus xeroc

mint tendon
#

yeah

wheat walrus
#

Nomon was terrifying ngl, they shouldn't have rebranded it into Xeroc

mint tendon
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isnt DoG working for him or smthn

pliant ruin
#

yeh

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DoG uis his lackey

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his henchmen

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his goon

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thug, even

mint tendon
#

and DoG can kill most greater gods

pliant ruin
#

minion

solar wharf
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we need to become xeroc's goon

mint tendon
#

providence is a greater god i assume

pliant ruin
#

terrarian going up to xeroc

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ay bos

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whats da plan

solar wharf
#

LMAO

mighty zenith
#

ay god whats da plan

solar wharf
#

exactly!!!

warm gull
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I will make xeroc my goon

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Or

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Crafting materials

mint tendon
#

mm

pliant ruin
#

the terrarian fighting yharim again after beating xeroc

wheat walrus
mint tendon
#

materials better imo

pliant ruin
#

yharim: ah, finally. we meet at l-

mint tendon
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that he didnt get

pliant ruin
#

the terrarian, visibly being blessed by xeroc:

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yharim: TAHT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

vernal jewel
#

what is the Terrarian lore?

pliant ruin
#

terrarian: womp womp.

warm gull
pliant ruin
#

xeroc: womp womp.

wheat walrus
mighty zenith
mint tendon
#

we literally resurrect shit just to get their loot

mint tendon
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like how does that work

mighty zenith
#

it doesnt

pliant ruin
#

i love the idea of xeroc and terrarian just being homies LOL

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tbh i love that idea as a whole

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like

mighty zenith
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(boss respawns are not canon, besides scal)

wheat walrus
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It just _ _
_ _

pliant ruin
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gods and their champios r legit just

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homies

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besties

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that's their relationsghip LOL

vernal jewel
#

you don't really kill Calamitas though

pliant ruin
#

queen bee

vernal jewel
#

how old is Calamitas?

pliant ruin
#

duke fishron

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aquatic scourge

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stuff like that

pliant ruin
wheat walrus
mint tendon
#

also plaguebringer

vernal jewel
#

Calamitas as your wife, imagine

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

plaguebringer (not goliath

pliant ruin
wheat walrus
warm gull
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see xeroc is very well written as a character and they're written to be likable as well, but I still don't like them

vernal jewel
#

CALAMITAS WITH MAID DRESS

mighty zenith
#

seek help

wheat walrus
#

No

pliant ruin
#

i'm a pretty big fan of xeroc

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he's hcill

mighty zenith
#

before i seek you out

pliant ruin
#

chill

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like

mighty zenith
mint tendon
pliant ruin
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not just as a character he just seems like a chill guy to hang out with

vernal jewel
#

Hangout with a god, yes

pliant ruin
#

they're a homie

vernal jewel
#

have a pizza party

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get drunk

pliant ruin
#

i want to hang out with silva also. we don't know anything about her personality but

warm gull
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I want to rip them out of the sky and snuff out that primordial light for good

pliant ruin
#

i am not immune to pretty lady : 3

vernal jewel
#

Play terraria calamity mod with Xeroc and let him watch you kicking Yharim's ass

mighty zenith
#

xeroc probably sucks at smash bros

warm gull
#

I just want to kill xeroc

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Like

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I just want to

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Idk why

pliant ruin
#

You're actually yharim

#

found out

warm gull
#

They're just a very killable character

pliant ruin
#

your jig is up

wheat walrus
#

Yhaichin

warm gull
#

no

pliant ruin
#

Go my worm

warm gull
#

Wrong

pliant ruin
#

🪱

mint tendon
#

come out yhaichin

vernal jewel
#

would you rather
buy items from a boss npc (it's their drop loot)
kill them and steal the loot (you become what Yharim wants you to be)

pliant ruin
#

🪱 🪱 🪱

mighty zenith
#

whatever. go my dragone

warm gull
#

I don't mind the other gods

pliant ruin
#

mosto f the bosses you kill

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kind of deserve it

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except like

warm gull
#

I just want to murder xeroc

pliant ruin
#

some of the random animals you kill inbeetween

mint tendon
#

some of them are also like already dead

pliant ruin
#

and i guess slime god but we dont know jackshit about slime god so maybe not

warm gull
#

Is that such an unreasonable urge?

mint tendon
#

(crabulon)

vernal jewel
#

does that mean killing Ravager is just making sure you make a dead god dead dead?

mint tendon
#

yes

solar wharf
#

ravager was commiting genocide so

warm gull
#

I want to stab xeroc with knives and hammers

mighty zenith
#

killing ravager is getting rid of a rampaging monstrosity

pliant ruin
#

Like r you doin good and all

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

I can't tell i'm too autistic

vernal jewel
#

is ravager the god name or just the dead god's name?

warm gull
#

I am alright

mighty zenith
#

i doubt he was called that when alive

warm gull
#

But like I do actually want to kill xeroc

wheat walrus
#

Ravengers Endgame

pliant ruin
#

If you stop to look at like all of the bosses most of them either deserve to be killed or were immediate threats

warm gull
#

Not if he was a real person, I mean I want to kill him in the game

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Like

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How some people just kill annoying npcs

vernal jewel
#

if LC isn't a moon lord follower, what was he doing?

mint tendon
#

wait what if terrarian just has an insane case of schizophrenia and everything we do are just hallucinations and we're actually murdering millions of innocents

mint tendon
#

what else

vernal jewel
#

]

warm gull
mint tendon
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mmmm

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possible

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those substances gotta be really strong tho

warm gull
#

auric dust

mint tendon
#

yharims stimulants but like 20 million of them

#

all compressed into one

vernal jewel
#

Yharim's Stimulant's

mint tendon
#

dont question it

#

and dont ask further

vernal jewel
#

Yharim's Stimulants clueless

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"Hold on lemme get my... Yharim's Stimulants clueless "

warm gull
#

The reason yharim is rich and can wear solid gold armor is because he's the drug kingpin who invented Yharim's stimulants, duh

pliant ruin
#

King Slime - it's got the same moral weight attached as a blue slime
Desert Scourge - Not evil but is a predator that tried eating you, self defense
Eye of Chtulhu - Good
Crabulon - He's dead already so like. You already cut down mushrooms trees it's the same thing
Eater of Worlds/Brain of Chtulhu - Good Riddance
Perforators/Hive Mind - Good Riddance
Queen Bee - Well in your defense she did attack you first but you could've probably been a bit more careful around the larva
Slime God - uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we'll save this one for when the statis update drops he's weird
Wall of Flesh - It's a wall and has got basically the equivalent consciousness of one
Queen Slime - See Slime God
Cryogen - You freed permafrost woo yippee hooray
Aquatic Scourge - That's mean actually :(
Mech Bosses - Yeah those guys are going to hell
Brimstone Elemental - She's mean and fucked up. Also she's never gonna truly die anyways so
Calamitas Clone - Honestly she's in too much of a weird place beetween her ingame fight and the mod's lore writing for me to say anything, best to save for when she gets a rework
Plantera - It's a plant. Also it's trying to eat you
Leviathan/Anahita - See Brimstone Elemental. Though you also killed a really cool looking fish but it was also trying to eat you
Astrum Aureus - It is a robot. Also it's trying to stomp you
Astrum Deus - You actually don't even kill it so good on you actually. Everyone loves the friendly neighbourhood space worm.

#

I got tired of doing this halfway through

#

you get it

mint tendon
warm gull
#

Jesus christ dude

pliant ruin
#

almost all of the bosses either deserved to be killed or were immediate threats i'm not doing the rest

warm gull
#

I thought you were just typing stuff out and backspacing it

mint tendon
#

its neutral at best

vernal jewel
#

statis update?

pliant ruin
#

good as in

#

good that you killed it

mint tendon
#

oh

pliant ruin
#

because it's a evil flesh abomination from the evil flesh biome

mint tendon
#

makes sense

pliant ruin
#

not rly an actual update name

#

just

#

whenever statis gets added

vernal jewel
#

statis new boss?

#

isn't statis a god too?

#

or just like.. a nerdy ninja

pliant ruin
#

nah

#

he's not a new boss

#

or a god

#

he's gonna be a npc

mint tendon
#

strong af ninja

pliant ruin
#

and he's just a guy

#

a homosexual guy

#

also the champion of slime god

mint tendon
#

wait wha

#

when

pliant ruin
#

he's gay

mint tendon
#

did he

warm gull
#

homosexuals?

pliant ruin
#

braelor is his boyfriend

warm gull
#

Real?

mint tendon
#

oh

#

damn

pliant ruin
#

yeah

#

they're canonically gay for eachother

#

happy for them

warm gull
#

I thought homosexuals were myth

pliant ruin
#

they're real it's true

#

i saw one yesterday

mint tendon
#

also like

#

you literally made the world much worse when you killed wof

#

sure it was necessary for progress

warm gull
#

Since they're in terraria calamity mod they must be real

pliant ruin
#

You did release the hallow

#

And more of the corrupt/crimson probably

#

but also

#

i think beyond that the hardmode changes aren't actually canonically happen after you kill WoF

mint tendon
#

20% of the world becomes evil

pliant ruin
#

because you cannot convince me the existence of arapaimas was caused by divine essence

mint tendon
#

nope

pliant ruin
#

do they though

abstract gyro
#

oh you mean other than biomes

pliant ruin
#

are arapaimas divine beings

warm gull
#

Yharim says that he used the wall to bundle up the god essences

pliant ruin
#

well i mean

mint tendon
#

hardmode changes canonically happen due to the ancient spirits being released

pliant ruin
#

They are pretty handsome

#

maybe they are

warm gull
#

Yeah arapaimas probably exist beforehand

mint tendon
#

look at the fucking beastiary for vanilla stuff

warm gull
#

But the overall idea of the biomes changing is true

pliant ruin
#

vanilla lore is dead and in a pit

warm gull
mint tendon
#

a bunch of the enemies we see get mutated or smthn due to ancient spirits magic or smthn

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
#

it's divine essence

abstract gyro
#

vanilla lore is literally Red being like "lmao that would be funny let's add that"

mint tendon
#

anyway the point is it happens because we kill wof

warm gull
#

I'm pretty sure stuff like tortoises, toxic sludge, giant bats etc. are all canon before wof and just for gameplay

mint tendon
#

so the overall implications are bad

warm gull
#

Like refighting bosses

pliant ruin
#

fair enough i guess

pliant ruin
#

turtle

#

(large

mint tendon
#

but its still for progress to kill things that are much worse

#

so yeah

#

debateable

warm gull
#

I mean you can leave something to fester for later or you can flush it out and cleanse it

abstract gyro
mint tendon
#

also uhhhh

#

skeletron

#

i guess killing him is good since hes a curse

pliant ruin
#

skeletron has literally no lrore

#

🔥

abstract gyro
#

what are we talking about anywya

mint tendon
#

well all we know is that he guards the dungeon and haunts clothier

pliant ruin
#

how like almost all of the bosses probably deserved to be killed

mint tendon
#

also made clothier do some bad things

warm gull
pliant ruin
#

either that or they were immediate threats in the case of the ones that were just like really hungry wild animals

abstract gyro
mint tendon
#

terrarian would be dead

#

prob

warm gull
#

Aquatic scourge is the only fightable boss that should specifically not be killed

pliant ruin
#

calamity lore specifically

#

i don't think

#

there's literally

#

any mention or reference ot skeletron

mint tendon
#

i mean they wouldnt even exist if we didnt play

pliant ruin
#

in all of calamity lore

#

skeletron was actually the god of calcium

warm gull
abstract gyro
vernal jewel
#

skseltron is a curse

pliant ruin
#

slime god is in a weird place

#

because

#

we know like

#

nothing about it

abstract gyro
#

yeah that's true

warm gull
mint tendon
#

we just know it keeps balance or smthn

warm gull
#

But every other calamity boss is killable with no regrets

pliant ruin
#

honestyl thats rly funny

#

like

mint tendon
#

also slime god kills itself

pliant ruin
#

skeletron has 0 mentions in calamtiy lore itself

vernal jewel
#

is slime god just a slime who claims he's a god

pliant ruin
#

its like

mint tendon
#

by creating queen slime

pliant ruin
#

the entire calamity cast

pliant ruin
#

is just gaslighting the terrarian into thinking skeletron isnt real

warm gull
#

what

mint tendon
#

it was a human taht consumed the soul of the dragon of gluttony

pliant ruin
#

the terrarian asks permafrost about the skeleton since hes a wizard and stuff he probably knows whats up with that

#

hes like

#

"whats a skeletron"

#

"the giant skeleton i just fought"

#

"??? you didnt fight anything"

warm gull
#

what if they added skeletron to vanilla terraria

pliant ruin
#

"dude i just killed ti"

#

"no????"

#

everyone just collectively ignores the existence of skeletron

#

the terrarian goes insane because they definitely just fought a giant skull guy

warm gull
#

terrarian on drugs theory confirmed

vernal jewel
#

skeletron is a curse placed upon the clothier, so it's not really a boss like the others, just a curse.

pliant ruin
#

I know what its vanilla lore is

vernal jewel
#

what did the clothier even do to get it

warm gull
#

yharim is just an angry pit bull thar ter made an entire story for in their brain

pliant ruin
#

I'm specifically making light of the fact it has 0 mentions or referenfces within calamity's lore

#

And i think that's funny

mint tendon
#

thats all the significance it holds really

pliant ruin
#

Like

#

it dosen't even

#

have a lore item

#

even king slime does

mint tendon
#

it is utterly insignificant

#

theory time

#

might be a curse from yharim

#

maybe clothier was a traitorous jailor

pliant ruin
#

yharim cursing a random clothe merchant because he decided he hasn't tormented enough people for one day

mint tendon
#

and was cursed to forever guard the dungeon by yharim

pliant ruin
#

fuck this one old man in particulaer

warm gull
#

What if yharim was a lizard

abstract gyro
#

wdym I'm sure it's said that Clothier was cursed for like infiltrating the library no?

pliant ruin
#

he's racist towards them tho

mint tendon
abstract gyro
#

by the dragon cult

warm gull
pliant ruin
#

self racism

warm gull
#

I'm selfist

abstract gyro
trim edge
#

does yharim hate the witch doctor
he's a lihzahrd but he doesn't seem to worship a god

warm gull
#

What if yharim was an ilmeran

pliant ruin
#

what if yharim was a god

abstract gyro
#

what if Yharim was not

mint tendon
#

we wouldnt have any problems

warm gull
#

what if yharim was your mother

mint tendon
#

it was the original plan after all

#

(of the gods)

pliant ruin
#

i mean

#

those gods seemed pretty bad

warm gull
#

what if yharim was john calamity

pliant ruin
#

we'd probably have like a entirely different set of problems

abstract gyro
#

isn't he???

mint tendon
#

also like

#

no evil

#

since corruption and crimson exist because yharim couldnt be bothered to burn the remains of gods

pliant ruin
#

yeah but we'd have the actual evil gods instaed

mint tendon
#

seriously fuck him why the hell couldnt he atleast burn their remains