lore-discussion

[crimson finch]

Yoooo best guy

[wheat walrus]

that's only primal

[crimson finch]

I fucking love kyogre

[wheat walrus]

not primordial

🤓

[mighty zenith]

his ability is primordial sea

stupid....

[wheat walrus]

I don't care

[mighty zenith]

kills u

[wheat walrus]

nah

[crimson finch]

Let’s beat omni with hammers

[graceful otter]

makes u care

[wheat walrus]

nah

[mighty zenith]

stabs u with my cool sword hands

[crimson finch]

Murders you with rock

[graceful otter]

ok ceruledge

[spring helm]

What the fuck kyogre can fly?

[graceful otter]

it swims on water

[spring helm]

Oh okay

[mighty zenith]

it summons rain

it swims in water

rain is water

[graceful otter]

on

[wheat walrus]

reminder that this guy solos calamity :333333333333

[mighty zenith]

4. fly

[graceful otter]

its like jesus during a rainstorm

just work on the rain

[wheat walrus]

cover yourself in kyogre

[mighty zenith]

🛢️

[wheat walrus]

I just remembered that one cover yourself in blood video that used to scare me because of the eateot music

[spring helm]

What did you do to kyogre

[mighty zenith]

oil

kyoilgre

[crimson finch]

Kyogre could solo Calamity

[mighty zenith]

he could tbh

[crimson finch]

Not even Primal

Base Kyogre wipes

[mighty zenith]

pokemon scale crazily

[crimson finch]

With some difficulty but

He does clear Calamity

[mighty zenith]

kyogre is like anahita if she wasnt shit at her job

[crimson finch]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

pokemon powerscaling is poopy pants

[mighty zenith]

"oh look its the actual creator god"

[crimson finch]

Arceus wipes most verses

[mighty zenith]

"oh it fainted to a fast rat"

[crimson finch]

That’s just the dumbass prep time Batman bullshit

That’s a perfect situation that is highly unlikely

[mighty zenith]

rat with a band over its head > god

pokemon is fnnuy

[graceful otter]

i wish the lake trio did more

[crimson finch]

Me too

I love azef

Alzelf

Albums

Albus

[graceful otter]

they were the 4th, 5th and 6th things created by arceus

[crimson finch]

Azelf

[graceful otter]

dialga, palkia and giratina being the 1st 2nd and 3rd

[crimson finch]

Buff them

Make them have uhhh

[mighty zenith]

give them a fusion form

[graceful otter]

theyre based on mind spirit and emotion iirc

[crimson finch]

Primal Origin Mega GMax Terrastil Shadow GX

Origin Plate

[mighty zenith]

lake trio fusion that looks like a human

[graceful otter]

time, space, (imo) gravity, mind, spirit, emotion

these things were the first things created by arceus

[crimson finch]

I was actually thinking that

[graceful otter]

i lied

[raven terrace]

Xeroc vs Arceus

[crimson finch]

Xeroc is dead

Erased

[wheat walrus]

Xeroc gets clapped to hell and back

[graceful otter]

its knowledge (close enoughto mind tbh), emotion and willpower

[crimson finch]

You side with Gravity over Antimatter??

For Giratina?

[graceful otter]

yes

[crimson finch]

Me too me too

[mighty zenith]

gravity does make more sense

the distortion world, where giratina is, distorts gravity

[crimson finch]

Black Holes

[graceful otter]

it can literally maake space time distortions

that is quite literally just gravity

[mighty zenith]

plus giratina itself can defy gravity with its origin form

[graceful otter]

not to mention that giratina can change the gravity around him, as seen with the distortion

[thorn drift]

Unrelated, but wouldn't exo prisms have infinite weight because of infinite energy?

[graceful otter]

does a generator weigh infinitely because it can infinitely generate energy

[crimson finch]

Probably Nah

[graceful otter]

the exo prism itself doesnt have that much of an output

its the particles that it produces that has the power

[thorn drift]

Exo prisms make no fucking sense. Where do the particles come from? Do they just pop into existence? Do they split off of the prism itself? I NEED ANSWERS

[crimson finch]

They’re very colorful rock candies

That produce exotic energy

[graceful otter]

yeah

[thorn drift]

One does not simply produce energy. If you burn coal, for example, you convert mass into energy. And if exo prisms can do so infinitely, they must have infinite mass.

Ergo, infinite weight.

[crimson finch]

It’s exotic

i don’t know

[raven terrace]

Lots of things about Calamity don't make sense.

Isn't fiction wonderful?

[atomic haven]

It's wild seeing people seriously state that the new lore makes Yharim less evil

(just read a post on the subreddit)

[graceful otter]

the one with a giant rant in it or?

[thorn drift]

Do people not realize that this is the same man who has ordered multiple genocides and ordered a 17 year old to burn down an ocean?

[atomic haven]

and created the Wall of Flesh, and Polterghast, and the Mechs, etc etc etc

[graceful otter]

she was probably younger than 17

:sylvderp:

wtf no sylvderp

[thorn drift]

Wait mf created the wall?

[atomic haven]

Ye to contain godly essence

[graceful otter]

he ordered its creations to contain the gods

[atomic haven]

since uncontained godly essence creates terrible things like the crimson

[graceful otter]

so that their essence didnt spread anymore than it alr did

[thorn drift]

Of fucking course he did

[atomic haven]

Honestly I think the mechs are his worst crime, because they represent a genuine descent into irredeemable evil

Like, these things aren't justifyable

[thorn drift]

I mean, technically draedon created them, but i see your point.

[atomic haven]

The man ordered his most loyal soldiers disembodied and their souls amalgamated into rampant machines of terror

[thorn drift]

Yeah. Fun stuff right?

[atomic haven]

true, but I doubt draedon would have done it without yharim's orders

[graceful otter]

yharim didnt make them, draedon kinda said "yea actually these souls would work REALLY well"

[thorn drift]

Man made the plaguebringer just for fun, what makes you think he wouldn't do it?

[atomic haven]

Draedon has an interesting character arc

He's a completely amoral actor, but the lore deliberately avoids painting him as evil because of this

rather, Draedon is made evil by nurture, not by nature

See also how he basically just sent out robots to look at stuff in the beginning

[thorn drift]

I mean, at least the guy takes care to not fuck up the enviroment more than he already did, so there's that.

[graceful otter]

draedon couldve absolutely been a well meaning character

[spring helm]

well it wasn't just for fun, he wanted to see if he could combine the strength of organics and metal after seeing how strong people like yharim, calamitas, and braelor were

[graceful otter]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

[thorn drift]

Oh, absolutely. Had he not sided with yharim, he could absolutely been an ally to us later down the line.

[graceful otter]

draedon had this kinda moment when he realised how to make the plague

just an

epiphany

he just understood what to do

[wheat walrus]

Space activity

[atomic haven]

Draedon is honestly super fascinating as a character and I love that we got as much insight into him as we did, via the codebreaker

[raven terrace]

Didn't Draedon express explicit dislike for the machines? Only Yharim liked em.

[spring helm]

draedon after checking up on the jungle plague after a while
(it's continuing to evolve like prokaryotic life but even faster)

[thorn drift]

I fucking love draedon. His motivations make sense too, from his standpoint.

[graceful otter]

yea, after he made em

[thorn drift]

That's what lead to the creation of the plague, actually.

[atomic haven]

IIRC it was based mostly in them still having weaknesses and being sub-optimal because the souls were basically feralized by the process

[graceful otter]

because he realised with powerful souls, yes theyre more powerful and energy filled, theyre also more unwilling to be complacent

to be more alive

[thorn drift]

And free will.

Sorta.

[pliant ruin]

i love robots

go my machine

[raven terrace]

So the mechs have free will, only generally guided by their programming to carry out their initial orders.

[spring helm]

the machines are failures unless they have absolute unfailing compliance

[thorn drift]

And their loyalty to yharim, mostly.

[atomic haven]

it's not really coherently stated but basically yeah
They're still guided by a kind of collective will of the souls animating them, which causes them to act irrationally and not obey as Draedon would want them to

[thorn drift]

Also, unrelated, but what is the meld lore. What importance does the stuff hold, because it seems kind of random to me.

Is it just star jelly?

[graceful otter]

: )

[thorn drift]

):

[atomic haven]

astral glue

[thorn drift]

Can i sniff it?

[atomic haven]

probably not a good idea but go ahead

[graceful otter]

meld is : )

[pliant ruin]

meld blob is uhmmmmmmm

yep

thats it

: D

[graceful otter]

no no

its : )

[pliant ruin]

: )

[stark basalt]

: )

[raven terrace]

And now you got massive machines of war running around during the night and generally being another beast that makes nighttime in Terraria a living nightmare.

[atomic haven]

yup

Honestly I like considering what the life of, like, a regular person is like in this world

You're essentially living in constant fear that the Eye will attack your village, your walls have to be high enough to deter slimes and zombies, your windows strong enough to stop demon eyes

A graveyard is really dangerous because of ghosts

[raven terrace]

Explosions ring out as a small town is being destroyed by a massive war machine and 500 Eyes of Tooluhu-

"Damn...can these things be any louder...? There go my plans for today..."

I imagine monsters like Eye of Cthulhu can be taken care of by a squadron of guards.

But it's not exactly something you'd want to have attack the village anyway.

[atomic haven]

Tbh I do kinda get why so many people worshipped the auric gods

They probably provide some manner of protection from the random ambient monsters of the world

[raven terrace]

Adventuring is also made particularly dangerous thanks to the Corruption and Crimson.

[atomic haven]

Yharim seems to have a very "might makes right" kind of ideology, where anyone too weak to defend themselves from things like blood moons deserves the death they receive

[atomic haven]

that too! Not to mention, we as the player are immune, but both will infect regular people

[pliant ruin]

My fafvorite god was the god of girls

i love girls

[raven terrace]

But civilians are usually weak in general and require protection-

They might not be able to defend themselves, but they serve other jobs like farming or mining or setting up shops.

[raven terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/animaniacs-yakko-yakko-warner-warner-bros-scratchansniff-gif-9857515532770772570

[raven terrace]

They also got lives or are even special in many cases.

[graceful otter]

this is so real tbh

[graceful otter]

god of lesbianism

[pliant ruin]

madoka kaname

[graceful otter]

true

https://tenor.com/view/anime-madoka-homura-magica-madokamagica-gif-21607985

look how gay these 2 are

they can individually solo calamity :3

[pliant ruin]

its true

you get it

[crimson finch]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-gif-7153889694115429511

[atomic haven]

by the way the existence of a god of sacrifices means there was a dragon of sacrifices

strange

[humble fog]

2 isn’t very individual

iirc

[atomic haven]

who would win, these 2 or V1

[graceful otter]

[humble fog]

:3

[graceful otter]

individually as in

u only need 1 of them

and theyd still solo

dummy

[humble fog]

false

[pliant ruin]

one of them

one of them would beat v1

either one

either one of them could also singlehandedly defeat the entire calamity cast of characters

:P

[graceful otter]

ya i said that earlier,,,,

dummy,,,,,,,,

[pliant ruin]

who would win

The devourer of gods, scourge of the universe

or

[graceful otter]

gay

gay can win

[pliant ruin]

its true

[atomic haven]

nice argument, unfortunately L + ratio + Friendly Fire + Ricoshot + Ground Slam + Headshot + u fell off + Limb Hit + Nailbombed + cringe + Finished Off + Parry + Friend + Critical Punch + Fireworks + Out of Bounds + Disrespect + Enraged + Shredded + Minced + Crushed + skill issue + Interruption + Splattered + Fistful of Dollar + Homerun + Down to Size + Zapped + Catapulted + Cannonballed + Mauriced + Half Off + Conductor + Exploded + Chargeback + Big Kill

[graceful otter]

lesbian magic can win and its not even because of my bias

its just factual

[atomic haven]

true

[pliant ruin]

lesbians will literally change the fundamental rules of the universe and become a concept before going to therapy

[crimson finch]

Yharim seeing Eater of Worlds:
“Preposterous, this brown worm could never consume an island, let alone a whole world”
Yharim seeing the Devourer of Gods:

[pliant ruin]

counterpoint:
god

biblical god

[pliant ruin]

Yharim after seeing the New Space Worm Deluxe "Consumer of Deities with Domain over Primordial Light Specifically"

(He is hiring him immediately)

[crimson finch]

Yharim when he sees The Plaguebringers & The PBG:
Deplorable, having people as mindless slaves, free of their own will serving without a choice.
Yharim when he sees a small child in only rags that could use magic and can be manipulated to serve under his will:

[spring helm]

b-but she has free will!!! (not really)

[raven terrace]

He mostly just likes bees and hates seeing what Draedon did to them.

[crimson finch]

let me attempt funny!!!!!!!

[raven terrace]

Anything or anyone else aside from Yharon can apparently go down-

[crimson finch]

Do you think Yharim almost changed his mind when he had to fight the Bee God/dess ? (if one hypothetically existed & they were a peaceful deity)

(and if he were the one to slay it)

[raven terrace]

He probably reluctently told Calamitas to kill them.

[stray falcon]

relevant image

[lofty pilot]

Explains why you can't just ask him to give you exo prisms

[stark basalt]

Genocide

[pliant ruin]

thanks draedonw

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[pliant ruin]

Don't

[frozen zodiac]

thanks draw ed on

[raven terrace]

The real Moon Lord was the friends we made along the way

[spring helm]

when you pass draedon's test he infodumps on you because no one else will ask about this cool invention that he made which is going to change everything and it's so cool guys look he got the sea prisms and harvested the ener-

[frozen zodiac]

yes please go on draedon i love information :)

[undone terrace]

Is the small child a bee?
Didn’t think so

[stray falcon]

He refuses to infodump until he gets comfortable enough around you to unmask

[spring helm]

Real

He’s just like me fr

Except I’m a dumbass

[real silo]

It's actually the dragon of death

[crimson finch]

This reminds me of those hyper realistic dragon ball characters when a certain group of people refer to them as food items

[pliant ruin]

hi lorers i just ate cat food

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-25031120

[spring helm]

self care

[stark basalt]

Calamity mod lore chat among us game

[candid shadow]

setzy

[stuck shore]

Ploo fact 1: the original ploo came from a Korean-American streamer that uses ploo as a username

Ploo fact 2: if you read this, then I will call upon ploo army to turn you into our ploo army

[magic epoch]

im nonbinary which means im invisible

[scenic olive]

no more ploo

eradication

the ploorification

[stuck shore]

No u

Plooification

[visual kiln]

explodes everyone here

[stuck shore]

Long live the ploo!

[stuck shore]

Now you are the queen of them all ploo’s. With the power of Immortality, Invisibility, Life, Elements, Power, Time, Reality, Soul, Mind, Thought, and Creativity, put them all together to make:

The SUPREME HIGH PLOO

MASTER OF THE MULTIVERSE

[pliant ruin]

you wouldn't explode me

would u

youd never

[visual kiln]

I wouldn’t nu

:3

[pliant ruin]

yaaaaaaaaaay

[real silo]

I would

prepare to 💥

[stuck shore]

Under one condition

You must continue as a ploo

Or would you take 💥?

[pliant ruin]

aza wouldnt explode me its ok

i get anti explosion privileges

[stuck shore]

Hmmmm

👍

[pliant ruin]

blungle

[stuck shore]

Ok u shall be the honorary blungle of ploo army

The first of us to keep their name

Welcome to our family!

plumg the ploo mascot shall snuggle you now with her cuteness

[scenic yacht]

💥

[mighty zenith]

[eager bluff]

🪨 💥☄️🧱 iirc

[mighty zenith]

bounces back

[eager bluff]

nuh uh

[mighty zenith]

[eager bluff]

false

[mighty zenith]

true

[cloud ibex]

School trip to the hydraulic press

[raven terrace]

What if the Terrarian existed a month before Fovos attacked?

What would YOUR Terrarian explicitly do?

[pliant ruin]

My terrarian is literally my self insert so uhmm

let me think

[eager bluff]

drink 500 bottles of vodka

[scenic yacht]

consume weapons grade uranium to become a nuclear bomb and detonate

[pliant ruin]

Well given by proxy of being The Got Damn Terrarian i'd be incredibly powerful i would erm kill moon lord

[eager bluff]

and a few shots of rubbing alcohol

[pliant ruin]

and after Killing The Moon Lord i'd go on a fishing trip to illmeris because fish are awesome

its ok i wouldnt eat any of the fish id catch and release

[raven terrace]

Mine would prolly battle Fovos to a standstill and try to bomb themselves to kill Fovos.
It don't work, but at least Zeratros and the dragon's don't take as much-
Shit...the battle would prolly be cataclysmic.

Not to mention we ain't at the level yet-

My 2nd one would prolly try to kill everyone they can to have fun with chaos. 🤷

[mighty zenith]

not exist probably

:clue

(i dont know how someone created from silva could exist before silva

[calm patio]

what would my terrarian would do? idk tbh

[raven terrace]

They just do. It's theoretical.

[pliant ruin]

Actually since my terrarian is actually just me i'd go up to fovos and start infodumping on him about madoka magica and limbus company until he dies

psychic damage bitc

[calm patio]

you know what ill do?

ankle breaker and dunk on his ass

[mighty zenith]

In that case they'd probably play a defensive role, trying to protect the dragons rather than going all in, since their goal is keeping the world in balance and deaths of domain holders would be disastrous

So they could possibly prevent Zeratros' death or at least save more dragons

i think xeroc would still be able to ascend though

[pliant ruin]

i'd eat yharon's soul

i dont like him

time to be the NEW first god

[mighty zenith]

based

[pliant ruin]

and i'd scream at the top of my lungs "hey yharim when you're born like 200 years from now or something HAHA LOSER I ATE YOUR DRAGONS SOUL HAHA NERD STINKY" and then disappear with no elaboration

[scenic olive]

Dragon of Cheese

[scenic olive]

Tell Xeroc how to do the ritual

make shit up

and it works

Boom paradox

[raven terrace]

Alr. Let's try something new.

What if theoretically, your Terrarian was set back to a week before Fovos attacks?

They know everything they currently do. The general locations of where some biomes are, bosses and characters they meet, etc. Also got all their gear.

[scenic olive]

Step into the ancient library and steal all the magic tomes and the secret knowledge

[calm patio]

tell fovos to stay the fuck where he is and dont attack

[scenic olive]

Also

i kill brimstone elemental

and nuke the abyss

flood brimstone crag so the azafurian doesnt live there

[pliant ruin]

why would you do that

thats so evil

what about all the funny fish from the abyss

[scenic olive]

There will be no fish

without silva

And probably

Find draedon

[calm patio]

guess what

[scenic olive]

or his creator

[calm patio]

i wont allow you to do that

[pliant ruin]

mokkuuu is gonna turn into the new yharim

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

he already genocided fish and azafurians, who's next

[scenic olive]

Yharim?

No no no

Im the upgrade

[pliant ruin]

not even yharim would be so evil as to kill funny fish 😔

ok wait nevermind he literally did that

nvm

[scenic olive]

Im gonna eliminate all the bees too

find Yharim

And drown him in Honey

yharon wont hatch because its honey

[pliant ruin]

this is like the end of jojo part 4 when kira dies to hands

[scenic olive]

Calamitas wont exist

she never had to go and suffer what shed been through

because no more brimstone crags

[pliant ruin]

providence moment

[scenic olive]

Now all thats left is fovos and xeroc

And the dragons

If it was possible i could bring draedon in a harddrive

[calm patio]

or just find calamitas before yharim does

[scenic olive]

Now find the creator of Draedon

Upload draedon to his current body

Work with the Dragons

[raven terrace]

I'd reckon if your character played the cards right, they could end Xeroc at this time.
Base Xeroc is below Yharim, but not by much. We're around that level if not higher.

[scenic olive]

nah

After i work with the dragons

im gonna ask Draedon to design a giant Auric Mech
(With the help of the dragons)

then we kill fovos

now

the fun part

killing all the dragons

and xeroc

aint nobody stopping a giant mech built draedon to match Fovos

now we use all the remaining essence of the dragons for Draedon to study

boom Calamity Alternate ending

technically

We became Xeroc

somewhat

The Traitor

but its far more sinister

[calm patio]

erm

who let this person cook?

[scenic olive]

[raven terrace]

Your far weaker, but a far bigger menace.

[scenic olive]

i might be Evil but im not Cruel

its for the greater good

The end justify the means

they all will meet a swift end

Well

[raven terrace]

Never let this man cook again 💀

[scenic olive]

Except for Yharim

How long does it took for a human body to Drown in honey

[sinful adder]

2 or 3 minutes I think

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[pliant ruin]

this truly was a lore discussion

you might be looking for #calamity-mod-talk or #help-advice-read-pins

[brisk orbit]

OIH

MY BAD

LOL

I THOUGHT HTIS WAS THT CHANNEL

sorry

[warm gull]

Can't I would eat it too fast

[scenic olive]

I wanna betray Draedon too

But like

hes chill af

[warm gull]

I want to kill all characters in calamity

[scenic olive]

[warm gull]

Is this really that much to ask

[scenic olive]

Why

[warm gull]

wym why

[scenic olive]

I dont want to kill them

[pliant ruin]

if you kill calamitas ill kill you with a big shovel

[undone terrace]

all of them???

[pliant ruin]

you can kill the rest of the bosses though i dont care

[scenic olive]

Thats why i said i flood the brimstone crag

and kill Brimstone elemental

[undone terrace]

Same
cant wait until that one pacifist mod thing to have calamity in it

[pliant ruin]

most of the bosses deserve to die anyways

[undone terrace]

Yeah
Including Calamitas

[pliant ruin]

nuh uh

[warm gull]

I want to dethrone xeroc because fuck the power structure and I want to kill calamitas because she committed genocide against ilmeris and a bunch of other atrocities and just gets away with it because she was "young and manipulated by yharim"

[undone terrace]

Aquatic Scourge is like the only innocent boss

[pliant ruin]

if you say calamitas genuinely deserves to die u have strange morals

[scenic olive]

so Calamitas had never been chosen by Yharim or had her powers and go through the destruction of her city

[warm gull]

Idc how brainwashed she was she literally killed millions

[undone terrace]

She killed millions

[pliant ruin]

she was a child and does not harm anyone anymore. killing her is not a act of justice for anyone - Not the ones she killed or the ones currently alive, it is purely a act of hatred driven by vengeance for people you haven't even ever met

[undone terrace]

Say what you want
she killed millions
nothing can change that

[scenic olive]

she was a teenager atm

[undone terrace]

Yeah but she’s dumb
I always hated fire

[warm gull]

Oh mb didn't realize being a teenager exempted you from mass murder

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

It does not exempt you

[warm gull]

Sorry for the misunderstanding

[scenic olive]

it doesnt

well that wasnt the point anyway

[pliant ruin]

Nobody here is saying she's innocent. She isn't.,

[scenic olive]

the point was

[undone terrace]

okay but like
Calamitas is still a threat whether she wants to kill or not

She’s strong and too much power could cause her to be used by someone else again

[scenic olive]

she was a teenager and doesnt realize what she was doing is right or not

its also easy to manipulate her

[pliant ruin]

This is idiotic man. sorry.

[calm patio]

u forgot queen bee chief

[warm gull]

No I understand exactly why cal is able to be defended

[pliant ruin]

By this logic literally everyone that's strong ever should be killed

[warm gull]

I just think that I should be able to kill her if I want to and that it isn't really that immoral to do so atp

[pliant ruin]

Based purely on a irrational paranoia that they may harm those who are weaker to them

[undone terrace]

I was talking in terms of calamity bosses
but heck yeah Queen Bee is innocent
So is plaguebringer goliath, she’s clearly suffering

[undone terrace]

I’d still kill Calamitas of thee were no other option

[pliant ruin]

Yes if there was no other option, sure

But there Are Other Options

[undone terrace]

If I could spare her
heck yeah

Can’t wait until we can spare Aquatic Scourge

[hoary berry]

you can

don't fight it

[pliant ruin]

I'd kill any of the characters if there was a hypothetical scenario where i had to because in said hypothetical scenario there'd be an actual reason

to kill them

[scenic olive]

If anything id kill Yharon

[pliant ruin]

because by virtue of said scenario beign "you HAVE to kill them" then there's a clear reason to do so, whatever said reason is

also yeah yharon should die fuck that guy

[warm gull]

I don't think that cal is going to do harm to anybody in the future, but I also don't think that killing her for what she did in the past is wrong

[pliant ruin]

I think it is pretty wrong

[scenic olive]

all that years he lived he could not let go of that massacre

[warm gull]

She has literally faced zero consequences for her actions

[pliant ruin]

She has

her entire life

[undone terrace]

We should kill Calamitas millions of times!!!

[scenic olive]

Why

[undone terrace]

Every kill she killed we kill the killer

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

Like, dude, she's living in a cave and has literally no way to possibly reintegrate into society and also constantly suffers from the trauma and emotional baggage of having done absolutely horrible things as a child when she literally could not possibly understand that what she was doing was wrong

[undone terrace]

I think kids her age know that mass murder isn’t very nice

[warm gull]

She may have trauma and be damaged psychologically from what she did but that isn't consequences

[pliant ruin]

That is a literal consequence

Her life is terrible because of it

[undone terrace]

Definitely consequences
but not enough

[scenic olive]

She was quite angry and messed up bro

Like

[undone terrace]

I say we take her out of her misery

[scenic olive]

Imagine your city got destroyed by some ahh elemental

your whole family died

[warm gull]

A murderer, going into a police station and confessing and crying about how bad they feel about it, still gets arrested and put on trial lol

[scenic olive]

just an angry lil girl

[pliant ruin]

This is not the same

[scenic olive]

with the power to destroy cities

[raven terrace]

She doesn't deserve to die in any sort of way. She's awesome! But I think she should face punishment for what she did, manipulated or not.

One does not evaporate the entire ocean and murder millions while getting off scot free-

[scenic olive]

its mostly because of Yharim

[warm gull]

literally how

[calm patio]

i think you should know that yharim taught calamitas of his progaganda "killing = good"

[scenic olive]

she vented out her anger on the enemies of Yharim

[calm patio]

if you were in her shoes. would i kill you?

[undone terrace]

Okay but like
tale her out of her misery
and those who had their friends die via her would be happier

[calm patio]

and you should know shes trying to repent of her sins

[undone terrace]

We gotta call Erhan for this one

[pliant ruin]

A murderer who regrets their actions is too vague of a concept to judge it on the same level as Calamitas. What was the murder like? Why does the person regret it? Who was murdered?

In Calamitas's case she was a child, was manipulated into thinking what she was doing was good, and now is an adult who immensely regrets her actions after realizing how evil they were

[undone terrace]

okay but like
millions

[warm gull]

She was a child for the first part of her time in his army

[pliant ruin]

She was still a child later on

[calm patio]

yes but its not as bad what yharim did

[pliant ruin]

She left before she turned into an adult

[calm patio]

the amount of war crimes he did

[undone terrace]

Okay lets say this
A dude builds a machine that killed millions, but he doesn’t use it anymore
Would you break the machine?

[raven terrace]

It's like remembering that one cringe thing you did a long time ago but dialed up to 1 million times worse and put on crack I think-

[warm gull]

But I think we've done the math and she was like, at least 20ish when she left

[undone terrace]

Oh heck yeah kill Yharim too

[scenic olive]

Ok what if i gave a child a button that would drop a nuke in nagasaki and he pressed it because its funny

[pliant ruin]

This is such a horrible analogy man

[calm patio]

^

[undone terrace]

hmph

[pliant ruin]

A machine has no free will, a machine cannot regret its actions, a machine has no life

[warm gull]

I absolutely do not agree with 10cloxxer either

[scenic olive]

Draedon :

[pliant ruin]

Every time i talk about calamitas in this chat it's 50% of the time the same thing

[calm patio]

a machine doesnt have any morals. like Draedon

[scenic olive]

draedon is cool

[undone terrace]

Your point is that Calamitas had no free will either

[scenic olive]

But someone should keep tabs on him

[warm gull]

I'm just saying thar she hasn't faced any actual justice for her crimes

[calm patio]

you know she was used as a weapon and not treated as a human being right?

[scenic olive]

Gotta make sure

[undone terrace]

Evil bee killer

[calm patio]

thats completely different than draedon

[raven terrace]

This guy gets it.

[undone terrace]

Yeah
Thats what im saying

[calm patio]

Draedon has no morales or anything

Calamitas has morales

[scenic olive]

i hate bees just because of Yharim so no

[pliant ruin]

It's the same lack of emotional nuance and critical thinking because people see "killed alot of people" and instantly go "irredeemable kill now" without looking at any of the external context surrounding it

[scenic olive]

[undone terrace]

I love bees
I hate yharim
I bet bees also hate yharim

[pliant ruin]

srry if i sound angrier right now but i'm sleep deprived so my bpd is flaring up so 🔥

[warm gull]

And psychological trauma is not a substitute for actual concrete punishment

[undone terrace]

Okay but like what if I wanted a cool weapon

[calm patio]

too bad u aint getting it

[pliant ruin]

There dosen't seem to be a judicial system in calamity regardless

[scenic olive]

a perfect punishment for Calamitas?

[pliant ruin]

There's a difference beetween legality and morality

[scenic olive]

Trap her in cryogen

[pliant ruin]

In terms of morality

[warm gull]

This is why I'd like to be the judicial system

[undone terrace]

Make her take a bath

[pliant ruin]

I think calamitas has went through enough

[warm gull]

I'm already building the entire town, I should get to be the damn judge

[undone terrace]

I’m still killing her
I need weapons

[pliant ruin]

Yes yes we get it

[scenic olive]

You want to kill cal

[undone terrace]

for cool item

[scenic olive]

Unfortunately sparing Cal

Is

[pliant ruin]

everytime i pointed out how your argument for wanting to kill cal was flawed you changed it around entirely

i get it man

[scenic olive]

A canon event

[pliant ruin]

you wanna kill her

[scenic olive]

so

If you didnt spare her your universe would be destroyed

[undone terrace]

I mean
I don’t really wanna kill any of the bosses

[scenic olive]

[warm gull]

I'd be fine putting calamitas in prison for life but I don't think there is a prison that could hokd her, so death is the only option

[undone terrace]

Heck I’d befriend Yharim if he’d stop killing people

[pliant ruin]

I think those morals are extremely questionable

[hoary berry]

whar

[pliant ruin]

But you do you

[scenic olive]

I bet cryogen can hold her

[undone terrace]

Put her in a box floating down the river

I mean
I like bees
Yharim likes bees

[scenic olive]

Ice prison

[warm gull]

She made cryogen and also has like the individual hottest flames

[undone terrace]

cryogen is cool though

[calm patio]

too bad he wont stop

[warm gull]

I could break cryogen with pre-mech shit so cal definitely can

[scenic olive]

Yeah but cryogen a prison magic specifically made for mages

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is one the like, three worst people in the entire mod so

[undone terrace]

yeah but like
befriending people is nice

[pliant ruin]

Not when they're genocide mc fascist

[scenic olive]

there is a reason why Cal just doesnt trap Permafrost in a jail cell or smth

[undone terrace]

1st is rare sand elemental

[undone terrace]

They’re cool now

[pliant ruin]

I consider Yharon, Yharim and providence, in no particular order to be the most evil characters in the mod currently

[warm gull]

We don't really know how cryogen works tbh

[undone terrace]

Yharon is just a dragon
he aint do nothin

[pliant ruin]

Yharom is a genocidal maniac

[warm gull]

It's just a hexagon thar holds permafrost

[pliant ruin]

He literally shares Yharim's exact ideology

[undone terrace]

Yharon is just a dragon
he aint do nothin

[pliant ruin]

He is just as bad as Yharim

[undone terrace]

“ooo friend tells me to do this im doing it”

[pliant ruin]

No

Yharon is fully sentient

he's not a animal

[undone terrace]

Whats so wrong about being a good boy

[scenic olive]

Yharon

[warm gull]

New people in lore chat always defend yharim for a while, it's like a rite of passage to figure out that he's awful

[pliant ruin]

he's literally the one that told Yharim about the Draconic Era

[scenic olive]

Is a bad dragon

[undone terrace]

I’d defend everyone

[scenic olive]

He lived

[pliant ruin]

Yharon is responsible for starting the crusades just as much as Yharim

[scenic olive]

for 2000+ years

and he became none the wiser

[calm patio]

another victim has fallen within the yharim propaganda

[scenic olive]

i think

[raven terrace]

Whether Calamitas was manipulated by Yharim or not while losing her family and being used as a tool her whole life, she still did all of those things. She regrets it A LOT now and probably wants to face some sort of justice for what she's done.

Like evaporating the entire ocean is a BIG thing. It had many consequences like killing tons of wildlife and making the apex predators go wild and destroy towns.
She killed millions. Literally millions.
She even decided to make her own choice and imprison Permafrost in a beast rather than kill him like Yharim ordered.

I still think she should face a consquence of some sort. Just not literal death.

[scenic olive]

I think Yharon was even like a Introvert to other dragons

[undone terrace]

Uh oh zoinks
Yharim likes bees that wins me over

[scenic olive]

he doesnt usually talk

[pliant ruin]

Do note that the bit about permafrost isn't confirmed

[undone terrace]

Yeah all he does is
EAAEEUUR

[pliant ruin]

Calamitas made cryogen and quote on quote

[warm gull]

What consequences could actually be put on her though. She barely owns anything, and is already homeless

[pliant ruin]

emprisoned Permafrost

[scenic olive]

he killed everyone in the crusade by proxy

[pliant ruin]

But we don't know if it was much of a conflict

I like to believe permafrost let her do it but that's a story for another day

anyways

[undone terrace]

maybe those guys were mean to their spouses

[raven terrace]

I don't know, but letting her off scot free doesn't feel right either.

[scenic olive]

didnt Permafrost the one that teaches Calamitas cryogen magic?

[undone terrace]

I say we all just be friends

[scenic olive]

like it makes sense since shes a brimstone witch

[warm gull]

That's why I don't think killing her is that big of an overstep

[undone terrace]

I do wanna freeze the ocean though

[scenic olive]

why would a brimstone witch know ice magic?

[warm gull]

She literally comes at us with killing intent

And she's already killed millions

[scenic olive]

my brother she literally think we will become another Yharim

[undone terrace]

Laughs in pacifist mod

[raven terrace]

Tbf, we've been toppling powerful being after powerful being. We've killed DoG and Yharon, Yharim's most powerful servants. It makes sense she'd probably be alarmed.

[warm gull]

I know what she thinks

[pliant ruin]

Anyways i have alot of thoughts about all of this

and it mostly lines up with my own morals and philosophies

[warm gull]

It doesn't make it any less true that she comes at us with the intent to kill

[scenic olive]

okay what kind of sane person would not kill Yharim before he becomes unstoppable?

unless youre goku

[warm gull]

Killing cal makes you less of a murderer and more of a vigilante

[cloud ibex]

Literally The Most Biased Dragon In Existence tells Guy Who Doesn't Like Being Told What To Do Wo Just Got Tossed In Lava By The Gods Because He Didn't Like Being Told What To Do that All Gods Are Shitlords And Assholes

[warm gull]

The morality is questionable

But it can be argued either way

[calm patio]

in theory its not apart of calamity mod at all. therefore not canon

[raven terrace]

With her personality and troubles, I don't blame her for her sudden decision. She DOES calm down once we knock some sense into her though. She's even thankful for us giving her a home. She's also go hobbies like wanting to start a garden.

Still doesn't excuse ANY of what she's done, but i'm just saying it's understandable.

[pliant ruin]

But i am a person who greatly values human life and i wish the world could be happy for everyone but unfortunately it isn't. Anyways i think the entire concept of having to punish someone based on the quantifications of their actions is utterly irrational. "Punishment" should only be done as a way to prevent more tragedy for happen. Punishment for the sake of revenge is idiotic to me.

If i say ''this guy needs to die" it's because i know this guy being alive is detrimental to others

[scenic olive]

nah id do what i must when given the chance

thats why

if you told me im going back one week before fovos invasion

There will be blood shed

[raven terrace]

Ayyyyy

[scenic olive]

we stopping shit before shit happens

everything that could go wrong will go wrong

[pliant ruin]

More specifically i think someone only really needs to die when it's clear their continued existence is damaging others and they are clearly not attempting to change in any way

So in other words i think the only people that should die are people who are ireedemably and undoubtedly evil

so in other words i think elon musk should die

[scenic olive]

they still should face some sort of punishment

[pliant ruin]

But why?

What would the punishment accomplish, other than, well - Causing more suffering

[raven terrace]

Like Goku vs Frieza.

Goku took EVERY measure to spare Frieza.

But Frieza was Goku's lesson that not everyone can be spared.

[pliant ruin]

This time for the person being punished

[scenic olive]

Because of people

[warm gull]

I mean, what about all the people that (realistically) lost their family members to cal? Do you not think her being alive and with zero justice is detrimental to them?

[scenic olive]

wanting justice to the people died by their hands

[strange stump]

get healed by your enemy
you are spared by the legendary super saiyan
"YOU MUST DIE BY MY HAND"
oops

[scenic olive]

it doesnt have to be a death sentence

[cloud ibex]

in a world without a proper legal system i think her living with mental trauma and regret over her actions for the rest of her life is the closest she's getting to a proper sentence

[warm gull]

Yeah I think elon musk is an asshole but there is not any way that I could be convinced that an asshole billionaire is worse than somebody who has commited genocide

[raven terrace]

I do find it just a little sad that when Calamitas lives with us, she states that she did't expect everyone to be so friendly. She literally couldn't understand it.
She's been through a lot.

[pliant ruin]

I'm sure that there could be Illmeran survivors that would want Cal to die. But there are other ways to help them than killing her. Do you think taking a life of someone is excusable if it means another person will get relief from it, even if said relief could be achieved through other ways?

[scenic olive]

death sentence should be applied when the person your punishing is beyond saving

[pliant ruin]

People go through therapy to get over tragedies all the time

[warm gull]

Hell, calamitas has probably caused more environmental damage than elon musk

[pliant ruin]

Yeah, but elon musk is a moron who dosen't regret any of his actions and fully believes himself to be on the right

[scenic olive]

[raven terrace]

She burned the ocean and played a part in Azafure's destruction.

[pliant ruin]

Also he's a billionaire

The only good rich person is mr beast

[cloud ibex]

that is true, he is rich

[scenic olive]

How did we get elon musk on this conversation

[warm gull]

Yes that's what I'm referring to

[cloud ibex]

that is immediately a point against his favor

[scenic olive]

Yharim

[warm gull]

Do you seriously think that regretting your actions makes them better when they are as grave as what she did

[pliant ruin]

They don't make your actions better

But they make you better

I never once excused what she did

[raven terrace]

Regretting your actions doesn't change what you did, but it shows you have the tiniest bit of humanity inside of you and how you'd want to change what you did in the first place.

[pliant ruin]

I just think trying to punish her when she is no longer of harm to anyone and clearly is trying to repent for her actions is nothing short of irrational vengeance

[warm gull]

I don't think that these people should need to go get therapy while the person who killed their family members walks free, frankly

[scenic olive]

my man if you regret something you will never do it again

[pliant ruin]

In this case

[scenic olive]

if you do it again then you didnt regret it

[pliant ruin]

the person who killed their family members is probably missing for all they know

she lives in cave

and also

[warm gull]

Not true, I regret walking to the store to buy candy all the time

[pliant ruin]

you consistently avoid mentioning the fact she was a child when she did it

[scenic olive]

you didnt regret it then

[warm gull]

I do not exclude that on purpose lmao

[pliant ruin]

i can guarantee you there are a good amount of people who would greatly change their approach to things if faced with

[warm gull]

I don't think her being a child excuses it

[pliant ruin]

grown person killed my family

vs

[undone terrace]

in theory i don care

[pliant ruin]

a child killed m family

It does not

excuse it

I keep repeating myself

[raven terrace]

Do you regret it in a way that you want to stop buying candy?
I mean, it shows you don't want to do it but you can't stop yourself. So if you had say...some guidance or help...

[pliant ruin]

her, actions, are not, excused

[warm gull]

And she was like a mid to upper teen for most of it

[scenic olive]

To fully regret

[warm gull]

Idk about you but I was fully cognitive beyond 11

[calm patio]

[scenic olive]

Waltuh

where is the lore waltuh

[pliant ruin]

You live in a modern society who's generally aware that Killing is Bad and you weren't enlisted in the army immediately whilst in a incredibly emotionally vulnerable spot and told that you should kill those people because they're evil and eat babies

again

[raven terrace]

Tbf, she also probably could have been afraid of Yharim himself. Even now, Yharim would defeat Calamitas, even worse back then.

JUST SAYING. Even tho she was manipulated, this was probably a possibility at the very least.

[pliant ruin]

stop just looking at "she killed people" and look at

[warm gull]

But anyways, you keep saying that her being a child doesn't excuse it and then keep bringing it up as if it's relevant, so which one is it?

[pliant ruin]

Everything Else

[pliant ruin]

It is relevant

but it dosen't excuse it

[scenic olive]

[pliant ruin]

Like

[warm gull]

I get that it kind of makes her more sympathetic

[scenic olive]

No

thats not it

[pliant ruin]

Again i'm sorry if i'm being rude. I admit i probably am right now. I have BPD and all and it's flaring up a good bit right now so my emotions are a bit unstable. But genuinely please stop being so tunnel visioned

[scenic olive]

Being a child and being an adult is different

[pliant ruin]

I'm. I'm sorry for being mean, i really am

[warm gull]

But I just think the gravity of mass murder outweighs the pad that being a child gives you by a longshot

[warm gull]

It's ok

[pliant ruin]

I don't have anything against you or anything, but try looking outside the box a little

[scenic olive]

They

Lack

The same experience

They are not as wise as an adult

i hate children

because of that

[pliant ruin]

I love fish

🐟

[scenic olive]

but at the same time

i cant blame them for that

[warm gull]

No I seriously get why it matters that she's a child, as in, it makes her more easily influenced and less prone to critical thinking

I just

[pliant ruin]

Shit i think we both kind of

Went a little too crazy

[scenic olive]

Okay whats good

[pliant ruin]

I generally still stand by everything i said but i'm really sorry for getting so abrasive

[scenic olive]

lore dwellers

[pliant ruin]

I'm gonna go drink some water, lol

[scenic olive]

Legs talk about something else

this is getting a bit too repetitive

[cloud ibex]

nevermind cancel the conversation

it's over

go home

[scenic olive]

this is the 8th time i have seen this question

[raven terrace]

Calamitas was a child, one who was easily maipulated by Yharim after she had just lost her family and was currently homeless. She was taken in by him and offered shelter and taught that murdering gods and co was good.

Seeing as how she already had all that pent up anger, I see why she did what she did overall.

[warm gull]

I don't think that being naive and a child means that you should be treated better after killing millions

[jaunty cloak]

bottom line is

hydrogen baby

kills alot of people

[sweet owl]

#lore-discussion is flames 🔥🔥

What am i seeing

[scenic olive]

youre seeing the 5th great lore war

[raven terrace]

The weekly arguement of whatever topic.

[scenic olive]

or

[sweet owl]

I just wanna know the lore

[scenic olive]

the morality of killing calamitas for her past actions

[sweet owl]

Some guy told me there was a document with the lore and shit

[pliant ruin]

Space worms are cool :)

[jaunty cloak]

i would also kill alot of people if i was born a nuclear bomb

[pliant ruin]

yah there is

in pins

[scenic olive]

Yeah its in the pins

[raven terrace]

Except DoG. He's a b*tch.

[pliant ruin]

Yah. Except DoG. He sucks.

Deus is cool tho.

[sweet owl]

She turns into an npc tho right? How do u kill her

[pliant ruin]

Love that guy

[scenic olive]

insert the gif of invoked stargod

[sweet owl]

Flymeal the ultimate

[raven terrace]

Put her home out in the middle of nowhere and summon bosses.

[scenic olive]

Fun fact

[mighty zenith]

clueless

[scenic olive]

Npc calamitas can beat every boss up to moonlord

[sweet owl]

But u can kill her with flymeal right?

[cloud ibex]

if you're patient yes

[warm gull]

Being naive and inexperienced and traumatized can only cushion you so much. I just think that the insane scale of what she did far, far outweighs the circumstances under which she did it, basically

[sweet owl]

How much hp she got?

[raven terrace]

960 thousand.

[scenic yacht]

a little

[raven terrace]

Boss Calamitas got like 1.4M I think?

[sweet owl]

[scenic yacht]

also 120 defence

[raven terrace]

She stronk.

[sweet owl]

Wtf

[scenic yacht]

actually the normal mode HP for scal is the same as npc

[sweet owl]

So u have a fucking tank as an npc

[raven terrace]

Really? Cool.

[scenic olive]

is there a lore reason why does AoTC creates smokes in the swings

[sweet owl]

Use her as a companion for fighting bosses i guess

[raven terrace]

Give them the advanced combat guide!

[warm gull]

Didn't npc cal used to have like 2 million hp

I forgor

[mighty zenith]

wasnt it like

6 million

[sweet owl]

Maybe

[scenic yacht]

apparently only 1 mil

[sweet owl]

A bazillion hp

[scenic yacht]

according to history

[raven terrace]

I think NPC Cal rn is just weaker since she's more relaxed and not really battle ready.

[celest kettle]

She used to hit the gym

[jaunty cloak]

is there a lore reason why the aotc line mid af

[scenic olive]

whats the line

[mighty zenith]

oh nvm

it was

[scenic olive]

I forgor

[raven terrace]

Depression can have that affect. Look at Thor.

[mighty zenith]

8800000 HP in rev

[sweet owl]

Is cal british?

[scenic olive]

Yes

in my headcanon

[scenic yacht]

incredible

[scenic olive]

[warm gull]

Canon calamitas is about as tanky as the player without her big glowing shield, which is to say, not very

[mighty zenith]

she also had 75% damage reduction

[sweet owl]

[scenic olive]

[jaunty cloak]

every weapon of the crafting line (both biome blade and ark line) underperform somewhat

[scenic olive]

i play calamity im immune to this shit

[warm gull]

true

[sweet owl]

[raven terrace]

If she was serious, she could stomp DoG into the ground.

Restrained, still crazy she's on Moon Lord levels of power.

[warm gull]

british🤢

[scenic yacht]

4x scals current BR health with 75% dr

[mighty zenith]

calamitas has a british accent, lived in hell, probably stinks from the brimstone magic

yeah she's british

[cloud ibex]

she's from azafure

• full of blade-wielding enemies
• origin of the industrial revolution in cal's world
• literally hell

it's basically cal universe britain

[scenic olive]

Azafure is britain

[warm gull]

I mean yeah she's literally higher than dog in the progression lol

[sweet owl]

[scenic olive]

makes sense

[scenic yacht]

i mean this perfectly explains why brimmy decided to attack it

[mighty zenith]

cant wait for the elizabeth elemental to wake up and destroy london

[warm gull]

azafure is in hell, it all lines up

[scenic olive]

The london bridge is falling down

[scenic yacht]

she hates the british

[jaunty cloak]

calamitas voted reform

[sweet owl]

Real

But she dont look british

[raven terrace]

3 NPC Calamitas vs Calamitas

[sweet owl]

She brown af and got white hair

Abnormal british person

[cloud ibex]

she's grey

[warm gull]

If calamitas had sunk the british isles instead of boiling ilmeris, my morals would be completely different

[sweet owl]

[raven terrace]

To calm everyone, I cast Supreme Partying Calamitas!:

[sweet owl]

Fr

[mighty zenith]

cal is the type of person to accept a party invite, regret it immediately after but feel too awkward to cancel it so she just goes to the party and hangs out in the corner

[raven terrace]

Given she literally does not understand how people can be so nice to her, it's nice to imagine she'd accept it almost immediately before deciding to ultimately regret it.

[sweet owl]

I dont get it, is there nothing that (a video or doc, whatever) that explains the lore like from beginning to end? Or is it just individual pieces of lore that form a timeline?

[cloud ibex]

pins

[sweet owl]

That document long af

[warm gull]

Yeah

That is the doc

That you have to read

To get all the lore

[sweet owl]

Im gonna read it cuz im going on a 6 hour road trip but damn

[mighty zenith]

there's a lot of lore (and its not even close to finished yet)

[sweet owl]

What isnt close to finished?

The doc or the lore?

[mighty zenith]

both technically

[sweet owl]

Or the mod

?

[mighty zenith]

that too

[sweet owl]

Ah

[mighty zenith]

calamity is a long long LONG way from done too

[sweet owl]

Why is progress so slow tho

[mighty zenith]

its a passion project

the devs dont get paid for it

[sweet owl]

Ever since i learned about calamity mod they only ever added like 3 bosses

[warm gull]

The devs make shit in their free time

[sweet owl]

Ah

[mighty zenith]

there's content outside of bosses

[warm gull]

And whenever they get enough done to make an update they release it

[mighty zenith]

thats like
the main reason why yharim hasnt been added yet

[sweet owl]

Also is nameless deity in the calamity or is it an add-on?

[mighty zenith]

because the focus on bosses has been too big and the other parts of the mod were neglected too much

[mighty zenith]

addon, also not canon

[sweet owl]

Ah so yharim is basically the main villian?

[calm patio]

yes

[mighty zenith]

yep

[scenic olive]

Whats nameless lore again

[sweet owl]

Also what purpose do the labs serve other than giving u a big drill, murasama and infecting the jungle?

[scenic olive]

why does he exists

[cloud ibex]

God

[sweet owl]

Xeroc

[cloud ibex]

(capital G)

[cloud ibex]

nah ND and xeroc are unrelated lore wise

[scenic olive]

No

[sweet owl]

Huh

[scenic yacht]

arsenal weapons, exo mechs

[scenic olive]

xeroc is not nameless and namless isnt xeroc

[cloud ibex]

out-of-universe ND is vaguely based on an older iteration of xeroc from a former version of the lore but he's pretty different at this point

[scenic olive]

So like

God of Terraria?

[sweet owl]

Idk the lore i just said xeroc cuz i saw some youtube comments talking bout some random nameless deity shit and they were throwing the name xeroc everywhere

What is xeroc then?

[scenic olive]

god

[calm patio]

god of primordial light

[sweet owl]

Ah

[cloud ibex]

roll the star wars text crawl

[scenic yacht]

also the first god

[calm patio]

(and yeah. clickbait youtubers who say "nameless deity or "xeroc""

[sweet owl]

I guess i should finish the game before tryna understand this shit

[scenic olive]

Another victim of Nameless

[sweet owl]

I beat moonlord at 3am yesterday

Wait

That would make it today

It was easier than i thought cuz uh master revengeance likes to tweak vanilla bosses

[scenic yacht]

moonlord didnt get any hellish master ai because his ai (internally) is already hellish

[scenic olive]

Spice

Moonlord

[sweet owl]

Moonlord ez fr

Circle motion carries

And now idk what to do

[scenic olive]

Why is the moon called moon

[sweet owl]

Idk

[scenic olive]

Why did the dragons call them like that

[sweet owl]

Somebody called it moon

[scenic olive]

Moon

Lord

Lord of the moon

yet he is imprisoned there

[sweet owl]

Moon lord

[mighty zenith]

they liked cows

[sweet owl]

🌑

[scenic olive]

Finally an explanation

[scenic yacht]

almost as if its a name given to him

well

title

[sweet owl]

I made a typo earlier and wrote moanlord

[scenic olive]

[sweet owl]

What if moonlord has a tentacle fetish

[scenic olive]

why didnt they just call him Fovos

By his

[mighty zenith]

i mean at the point where moon lord got his name most ppl probably didnt know he was trapped

[scenic olive]

name

[scenic yacht]

never speak again

[mighty zenith]

but more like he just lived there

[scenic yacht]

he had so much cheese up there that he didnt need to worry about food so he was fine for a while

[sweet owl]

Would he be the top or the bottom?

[mighty zenith]

unfortunately he has no bottom so there's no answer to that

also shut up