lore-discussion

[graceful otter]

meow

[fierce pagoda]

fell asleep on her keyboard

are you two both like secretly cats, i always see you meowing and stuff

[rotund shore]

like 20% of lore discussion is secretly cats

my username is actually based on a fictional cat

[fierce pagoda]

how are there so many

[graceful otter]

secretly?

[graceful otter]

no

[rotund shore]

the other 80% are openly cats

[graceful otter]

im a catgirl

not sure on cheese tho

@pliant ruin catgirl?

[wheat walrus]

skibidi

[rotund shore]

right after I read this, somebody said skibidi in a twitch chat

[fierce pagoda]

Can't wait to hear that word everyday once i start working...

[pliant ruin]

nya

[graceful otter]

mrow

[pliant ruin]

i have a cat headset

and cat ear warmers

and cat gloves

i think that answers ur question

[graceful otter]

omgggg :333

steals them

[pliant ruin]

im calling the POLICE,,,

[earnest flare]

i will forever hate how a cat that only gained relevance in the early 2010s just stole me name

it comitted identity theft and i lose 5% of my sanity every time its brought up

[graceful otter]

u stole its name smh

[fierce pagoda]

this cat?

wow i never knew it was named pusheen

[earnest flare]

no actually i came before the cat

[graceful otter]

sure it was

[earnest flare]

(i am older than 14)

and thats not considering the fact that it took a couple years for the cat to become relevant to the world in the slightest

[graceful otter]

ur name is NOT pusheen

[earnest flare]

that is correct my irl name is not

but literally EVERYTHING online is

[fierce pagoda]

gamaertag

gamer alert

[lean crag]

Nah

Zamn 2010-ers are 14

[fierce pagoda]

oh we got a ceasar clown fan here, everyone hold your breath

[earnest flare]

its been 2 years since they were legally allowed on half of social media and i already hate gen alpha

[lean crag]

:)

[earnest flare]

i completely get why millennials blame us for everything

[fierce pagoda]

who is us

[earnest flare]

gen z

[graceful otter]

r u a boomer

[fierce pagoda]

they are all blaming you personally

the rest of gen z are good

[graceful otter]

did u make ur gamer tag at the age of 4

[lean crag]

I still get confused is 2010 gen alpha or is it after 2010

[earnest flare]

p much

[fierce pagoda]

i think its afeter

[lean crag]

This is very important because my brothers convinced he’s gen z

[fierce pagoda]

yes its 2010 to 2024

[pliant ruin]

what generation of pokemon am i

[earnest flare]

2010 is gen alpha

[pliant ruin]

am i gen z

what is gen z

[lean crag]

:)))))))))

[solar wharf]

1997 to 2012 i think?

[lean crag]

Perfect

[fierce pagoda]

Gen Zenoverse

[earnest flare]

there is unfortunately no cheese pokemon

that is also a catgirl

so

umm

lets just say gen 10

[pliant ruin]

thats such a weird time frame

why cant it be like

[solar wharf]

idk how reliable this source is but yes.

[pliant ruin]

2000 to 2010

why 1997 to 2012

thts so weird

[graceful otter]

alcremie is like close enough

it can be a cheesecake

and act like a catgirl

[pliant ruin]

alcreamie is also my favorite pokemon so

[solar wharf]

vikavolt my beloved

[pliant ruin]

or well one of my two favorites alongside dolliv

[fierce pagoda]

what about Lunala

isnt that one made of cheese

[earnest flare]

iirc when a new gen starts is when the oldest people of a new generation turn 18

from what starting point? jesus' death probably

[pliant ruin]

these pokemon are both dual types

they are the Autism type and the Girl type

[fierce pagoda]

ew what is that green one

kill it

[solar wharf]

doliv is grass normal

[earnest flare]

but yeah after seeing the beginnings of gen alpha i completely get why blaming the younger generation has been a thing for centuries

[solar wharf]

idk whats normal about that one

but yes

[fierce pagoda]

it looks dumb

[pliant ruin]

keep your windows shut.

god isn't gonna help you tonight.

[stark basalt]

I’ve had calamity music stuck in my head

[solar wharf]

i love all pokemon equally, except galvanutla, we all know vikavolt >

[stark basalt]

The inf mech boss theme specifically

[earnest flare]

are those even pokemon

[solar wharf]

yes

[wheat walrus]

Yes lol

[pliant ruin]

yes and they're tyhe best ever

[fierce pagoda]

no man there was one pokemon, that was so hideous, its like a deer with a onion head

[earnest flare]

god i swear i dont know a single pokemon past gen 2

[fierce pagoda]

it looks sooo dumb

[solar wharf]

i play competitive pokemon so, its kinda important to know new pokemons

[rotund shore]

???

who??

[pliant ruin]

the gen 2 deer

stnatler

[earnest flare]

competitive pokemon sounds really unfun to play

[pliant ruin]

stantler

he looks dumb

[fierce pagoda]

man it was white im trying to find it

[pliant ruin]

i agree

[earnest flare]

accuracy mechanics and shit...

[solar wharf]

oh

[fierce pagoda]

no its not stantler

[solar wharf]

the hisui verison

of it

wydeer

[rotund shore]

thats...certainly a way to describe stantler

[solar wharf]

wydeer i think?

[pliant ruin]

but also saying dolliv is ugly is kind of like the most illegal crime ever

[solar wharf]

forgot how to spell it

[rotund shore]

wyrdeer

[pliant ruin]

so you're going in the pit

[solar wharf]

luck is a very major part into deciding who wins yes.

crits, accuarcy, chances to burn/freeze/paralys, speed ties

[earnest flare]

any game with copious amounts of rng tends to not be great competitively

though i cant say this in reality because i play competitive kirby air ride

[solar wharf]

poison is also painful, but isnt game ending

oh and flinches

[solar wharf]

30% chance to miss feels like 50 in pokemon

[earnest flare]

only competitive pokemon clip ive seen is the one of the guy missing like 5 of a move in a row and losing

[pliant ruin]

never played competitive pokemon

[solar wharf]

idk whether the accuarcy is actually 70% or gamefreak is just fucking with us lmao

[pliant ruin]

never will probably

i just like looking at the little guys

[graceful otter]

iron tail
75% accuracy
ive never seen it miss in my life

[earnest flare]

it would be a funny prank if everything was actually 10% less accurate than the stats show

[graceful otter]

accuracy is a myth by gf to increase invisible stakes

[solar wharf]

the amount of time you miss hurricane, fire blast or focus blast is insane that even tho they have huge damage values, they are actually pretty comptitively unviable

well not bad

[fierce pagoda]

i found it its this one, look how dumb it looks like how did they even manage this

[solar wharf]

some people still run them

[earnest flare]

gamefreak abbreviations...

[graceful otter]

nah

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/shortcake-alcremie-spin-pokemon-rotate-gif-22750564

[graceful otter]

fire blast and focus blast are fine

[pliant ruin]

wooo weee. yippee hooray

[graceful otter]

and are used quite often

[pliant ruin]

oh that guy

[solar wharf]

focus blast is only ran for coverage, aura sphere is almost always ran in its place when the pokemon has it

[pliant ruin]

yeah i dont like him

[graceful otter]

hurricane is also rlly good with rain teams

[pliant ruin]

hes lame

[solar wharf]

fire blast is also replaced with flamethrower

[graceful otter]

hurricane thunder pelliper my beloved

[pliant ruin]

he came from the worst pokemon generation though

so

[solar wharf]

hurricane is the issue of the best common special flying move is air slash

which is 70 powers, too low

but in rain its busted yes

[earnest flare]

i mean also with competitive pokemon cant you just like
use a bunch of legendaries and win instantly

[fierce pagoda]

Calyrex was its name

who the hell designed it

[solar wharf]

tiers exist

[graceful otter]

its lower because it has flinch chance

[fierce pagoda]

what are they smoking at nintendo

[solar wharf]

ye, 30%

[earnest flare]

ok so legendaries are banned, gotcha

[pliant ruin]

no not entirely

[graceful otter]

no

[solar wharf]

no, not legendaries

just busted mons

[pliant ruin]

different tiers have their own like

groups of pokemons

you can use

[solar wharf]

darkrai is allowed in this gen lmao

[graceful otter]

in vgc, theres banned mons and limited mons

[pliant ruin]

i know that

[graceful otter]

and in smogon theres different tiers

[solar wharf]

^

[earnest flare]

theres a difference?

[solar wharf]

yes

[graceful otter]

yes

[pliant ruin]

some legendaries suck dont they

[solar wharf]

there are mons who arent legendaries that rival them

[fierce pagoda]

pocket monsters

[graceful otter]

not all legends are made equal

[pliant ruin]

and some non legendaries are insane

like regigigas sucks

real bad

[fierce pagoda]

Pokemon is a Dragon quest clone

[solar wharf]

yes, power creep has caught up to some, deoxys speed, darkrai are examples

[graceful otter]

just look at the ruination legendaries

[fierce pagoda]

/j

[pliant ruin]

my favorite legendary is uhmmmmmm

probably giratina i like giratina

she's whimsical and silly and kills people

[graceful otter]

1 of them is too busted for its existence, another is also extremely strong but not too strong and the other 2 aare straight trash

[pliant ruin]

but deoxys and mega diancie specifically are up there

[solar wharf]

wouldnt call ting-lu trash

way too bulky both ways

[earnest flare]

powercreep seems to be an issue with like half of the competitive games that continually get updates

[solar wharf]

just lack recovery

[pliant ruin]

the one that's busted is also the one that's literally just a fish

[graceful otter]

speedcreep is real

[pliant ruin]

isn't that cool

[graceful otter]

a fish

MADE OF FIRE

[earnest flare]

umm anyways i like mewtwo because i am basic fuck you

[pliant ruin]

wow

a fish made of fire

[solar wharf]

nothing can actually survive its attacks if built right, its insane

[pliant ruin]

isn't that so insane and crazy

[solar wharf]

although it isnt good in ubers either

[pliant ruin]

anyways here's this normal, non-legendary, common pokemon that's a electric sheep that turns into a dragon

[solar wharf]

it has the issue where, its too strong for the tier below it, but too weak for the one above it

so it usually never sees play

[solar wharf]

mareep!!

[graceful otter]

isnt uhh

great tusk in ubers or smthn

[solar wharf]

no

[pliant ruin]

i love chi yu

but

[solar wharf]

smogon?

no

[pliant ruin]

i have to admit

[solar wharf]

hes ou in both gen 9 and national dex

[earnest flare]

ok but what if they added guns to pokemon and then made the game not die in weeks

[magic epoch]

wtf is this lore discussion

[pliant ruin]

it's the stupidest design for a legendary ever in the best way possible

[rotund shore]

chi-yu could guarantee OHKO yharim, thats the lore ig

[pliant ruin]

he could.

[fierce pagoda]

nuh uh

[pliant ruin]

pokemon dosen't die in a week 😭

[graceful otter]

chi yu for reference

[pliant ruin]

ppl still talk about scarlet and violet actively and it came out like a year ago

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim is Yharim-versal and outscales all verses infinetly

[graceful otter]

imagine talking out of your ass

[fierce pagoda]

sorry

[earnest flare]

yeah but you know what did?

umm that pokemon like game with guns that became most popular game on steam

[pliant ruin]

i love him

[earnest flare]

i forgot its name

[rotund shore]

don't forget 252 spatk, choice specs, etc, etc

[pliant ruin]

but hes so funny

[solar wharf]

choice specs, under sun, tera fire, + beads of ruin overheat

[pliant ruin]

hjes literally just a normal ass fihs

made of fire

[graceful otter]

modest

[pliant ruin]

hes not even like

big

or intimidating

he's just a fire goldfish

[graceful otter]

he isnt

u forgor the beads

yknow

[pliant ruin]

true

he has bead eyes

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim is just a normal ass guy

[pliant ruin]

but still

[graceful otter]

the main thing about the ruination legendaries

[pliant ruin]

its just a fish

[earnest flare]

pokemon design really fell off...

[pliant ruin]

pokemon design still is and always was a mixed bag

it never got better or worse

[fierce pagoda]

they ran out of Toriyama designs to steal

thats why

[rotund shore]

genuinely, the first pokemon game, was super mid, like insanely so

[graceful otter]

yea

[earnest flare]

erm actually it definitely got worse after like gen 3 or 4

[solar wharf]

GREAT TUSK JUMPSCARE!!!!!!!

[graceful otter]

i really hate when people say "its gotten worse"

[pliant ruin]

not really

[graceful otter]

mf its always been mid

[rotund shore]

I think gen 1 has some of the worst designs

[pliant ruin]

yeah lol

pokemon designs have been a mixed bag since day 1

some r bangers

some r poopoo

[solar wharf]

gen 1 designs are ass for me

[graceful otter]

half of the gen 1 mons are literally just "theres more of em" or "it got bigger"

LOOK AT GRIMER AND MUK

[solar wharf]

i like gen 2, heracross and scizor

[pliant ruin]

its the same thing for every generation

[graceful otter]

CAN U TELL THE DIFFERENCE

[solar wharf]

were always my favorite

[pliant ruin]

muk is cool dont diss him

hes a bad example

[graceful otter]

muk ba-

[pliant ruin]

if u want an actual good example of gen 1 designs being garbo

[earnest flare]

actually the best gen 1 mon is magikarp

[pliant ruin]

diglet

dugtrio

[rotund shore]

SEEL AND DEWGONG

[fierce pagoda]

one is cute and the other is edgy i guess

[pliant ruin]

true

[rotund shore]

THOSE DESIGNS ARE THE MOST ASS

[pliant ruin]

those guys r lame

[rotund shore]

THE NAMES TOO

[fierce pagoda]

damn they are really smilar

[graceful otter]

voltorb and electrode

[rotund shore]

seel and dewgong are just the names of animals but misspelt

[pliant ruin]

muk's general anatomy is different to grimer

[earnest flare]

umm i think geodude is really boring...

[graceful otter]

they turned it upside down and made it bigger

[pliant ruin]

it's alot more ''melty" and intimidating

[fierce pagoda]

what about Enaks and arboc or whatever

[pliant ruin]

yeah those r literally just snakes

but

[graceful otter]

ekans and arbok is cool

[pliant ruin]

they aren't agressively bad

just

boring

they're mediocre

[graceful otter]

ourple snake

[rotund shore]

arbok has a cool design tbh

[pliant ruin]

the best gen 1 pokemon is lapras btw

if you disagree, eel pit

[fierce pagoda]

what about the blue one with a spiral in its stomach

[rotund shore]

yeah lapras is good

[graceful otter]

erm mew?

[pliant ruin]

i won't respect alternative opinions on this one

sorry

eel pit

go

go now

[rotund shore]

poliwhirl line is alright yeah

[pliant ruin]

eel pit

[graceful otter]

[earnest flare]

mew is nice

[pliant ruin]

i really don't like the poliwhirl line

[graceful otter]

poliwhirl and poliwrath is literally just "it got angry"

[magic epoch]

here me out

[fierce pagoda]

Wow some eel meat would go crazy rn...

[magic epoch]

sandshrew

[graceful otter]

atleast poliwag is cute

[pliant ruin]

poliwag is cute but then it turns into a

abstract vaguely frog looking thing

that then turns in the same exact design but angrier

i wish it just turned into a normal frog

oh wait

politoed exists

yaaaaay

[graceful otter]

its design changes plenty

[solar wharf]

WHATS UR FAVORITE TYPE EVERYONE! MINES BUG

[graceful otter]

it gets large digging claws and it gains spikes

[earnest flare]

gyrados went hard when he was just a sprite and not a 3d model

like seriously he fell off the moment the 3ds released

[rotund shore]

psychic or steel

[pliant ruin]

tough question

[fierce pagoda]

I guess Dragon

[rotund shore]

psychic has some bangers like gardevoir or metagross

[pliant ruin]

mine is probs like

a mix of

[fierce pagoda]

dragons are cool right guys?

[earnest flare]

steel

[graceful otter]

none

[pliant ruin]

fairy, ice, water and bug

[graceful otter]

my favourite pokemon are quite random

[fierce pagoda]

no waith fighter type is cooler

[lean crag]

🔥 or 👻

[rotund shore]

tbh the whole ralts line is fire

[graceful otter]

its literally "do i vibe with this design"

[solar wharf]

i dont think i have a bug type that i geniunely hate other than maybe galvanutla

[pliant ruin]

fighting type is my least favorite

sob

[fierce pagoda]

love fighters and fighting

[magic epoch]

water bc my fav pokemon is water

[graceful otter]

like uhh

[fierce pagoda]

fighting is for cool people only

[lean crag]

They’re better together actually…

[pliant ruin]

alot of fighting types feel too much like just People to me

[graceful otter]

mawile is one of my fav mons

but so is giratina

[earnest flare]

TRUIE

[magic epoch]

many of my favorite pokemon are water actually

[fierce pagoda]

dont fight if you're not cool

[earnest flare]

mawile is based

[graceful otter]

theyre are just completely different

[pliant ruin]

mawile is neat

[magic epoch]

vaporeon, araquanid, chinchou

[pliant ruin]

giratina, deoxys n mega diancie r all like

tied for favorite legend for me

[graceful otter]

🤨

[magic epoch]

oh my god

[solar wharf]

fighting types become fucking goated if they arent people tho, LOOK AT THIS ABSOLUTE SPECIMEN

[pliant ruin]

what do you mean

noob

[solar wharf]

READY TO RUMBLE

[rotund shore]

I'm a regigigas man tbh

[pliant ruin]

go to your room

youre grounded

[earnest flare]

i can never trust anyone who has vaporeon as one of their favorites

[magic epoch]

:|

[rotund shore]

did you know that vaporeon is cool

[fierce pagoda]

i bet so many pokemon have been ruined by the internet

[pliant ruin]

vaporeon is just a silly fox fish

shuddup

[solar wharf]

i want a slither wing, its just so fluff

[fierce pagoda]

like gardevoir and lopunny

[magic epoch]

why can't you seperate the cute water dog from the copypasta

[graceful otter]

@magic epoch rn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPi6b_7u20o

[pliant ruin]

real

[earnest flare]

because i hate dogs too!!!

[solar wharf]

fluffy bug

i love fluffy bugs

all bugs should grow fluff

[pliant ruin]

u dont have to make a porn joke everytime someone says they like the funny fish

[pliant ruin]

frosmoth is kind of like

[fierce pagoda]

someone dropped the P word

[rotund shore]

vaporeon is just cool

[solar wharf]

i love frosmoth

[rotund shore]

I prefer leafeon or sylveon but its decent

[solar wharf]

perfect little guy

[graceful otter]

TRANS CAT

[pliant ruin]

it's like discount volcarona but it's still a cool looking moth so even if it's not as cool as volcarona it's still really cool

[graceful otter]

TRANS CAT MENTIONED

[magic epoch]

i should use a team in sv where I just have vaporeon

[earnest flare]

counterpoint

[magic epoch]

like just Vaporeon that's it

[fierce pagoda]

funny monkey

[solar wharf]

unironically would choose slither wing if i could have 1 pet pokemon

[pliant ruin]

sylveon is my favorute eeveelution

[solar wharf]

idc if arceus is right there

[fierce pagoda]

oh oh oh i love funny monkey

[solar wharf]

give me the slither wing

[pliant ruin]

it being gay aside

it's by far the best eeveelution design imo

[graceful otter]

pick arceus and tell him to make 2 slither wing

:3

[pliant ruin]

and it has the bonus of being gay ontop of it

[solar wharf]

I NEED THE LARVESTA PLUSHIE

[rotund shore]

if I had any one pokemon has a pet, it'd be sylveon, since to my knowledge it isn't super deadly like most other pokemon canonically are

[magic epoch]

tbh all the eeveelutions are hits

[earnest flare]

i would not trust any pokemon as a pet because like 20% will destroy the world by existing and i want to live sometimes

[magic epoch]

none of them are bad

[graceful otter]

pick arceus and tell him to make larvesta plushie

[pliant ruin]

yah no eeveelutions r bangers

[magic epoch]

they're all awesome

[pliant ruin]

the only ones that r kind of like

eh

imo

r jolteon and flareon

[solar wharf]

this is a basic human need

[graceful otter]

agreed

[pliant ruin]

mostly coz gen 1 design simplicity moment

[magic epoch]

i can get that

[solar wharf]

the goverment needs to up their game

[magic epoch]

but i LOOOOVE flareon

so fluffer

[earnest flare]

eh, leafeon is by far the worst eeveelution

[graceful otter]

eevee is the best eeveelution

[graceful otter]

die

[rotund shore]

its insane how big this larva is tbh

[pliant ruin]

leafeon is awesome

[magic epoch]

sorry they aren't the -lution part

[graceful otter]

fuck you

[earnest flare]

i seriously dont get leafeon

[pliant ruin]

my 2nd favorite is like

espeon i think

[fierce pagoda]

Why do so many pokemon kinda look like the monsters from Palworld? did Nintendo steal their designs or something?

[pliant ruin]

it's eevee

but

a leaf

[solar wharf]

yes they did man

i cant believe nintendo

[earnest flare]

ok well i dun like eevee so that explains it

[pliant ruin]

nintendo stole my lunch money

[fierce pagoda]

kinda sad that a massive org like nintendo would steal from poor indie devs

[graceful otter]

why do so many pokemon kinda look like the creatures from earth? did pokemon steal their designs or something?

[pliant ruin]

yes

they stole them

[solar wharf]

eevee isnt my favorite either, not that i hate them, i just dont see the appeal

[pliant ruin]

from ME

i designed them

[graceful otter]

omg ur god,,,,,

[solar wharf]

they just remind me of elemental dogs/cats which is cool but not "woah"

[magic epoch]

imo
vaporeon > sylveon > flareon > glaceon > umbreon > leafeon > espeon > jolteon

[graceful otter]

its a FOX

[fierce pagoda]

wow Its plagiarism all the way down with Nintendo huh

[earnest flare]

pokemon stole their designs from gamefreak who stole their money from nintendo...

[solar wharf]

well it would be better translated into canines/felines

[fierce pagoda]

wow Nintendo is horrible

[graceful otter]

imo ur wrong
sylveon > umbreon > glaceon > vaporeon > leafeon > espeon > the other gen 1 fuckers

[earnest flare]

anyways dont you hate it when you're strolling around in paldea when you suddenly clip through the floor

[fierce pagoda]

is that a normal occurance in pokeworld

[earnest flare]

probably

[fierce pagoda]

what was that one pokemon game that was horribly buggy on launch

was it sword and shield?

[earnest flare]

scarlet and violet

[fierce pagoda]

arent thse dlc

[earnest flare]

no

[graceful otter]

no

[earnest flare]

🐌

[rotund shore]

scarlet and violet is a mess, but tbf I had a blast with it

and still do tbh

[graceful otter]

ok but area zero was actually peak

[rotund shore]

sword and shield are fundamentally better games, but are so boringggg

[earnest flare]

pokemon graphics < some ps2 games

[graceful otter]

and ofc, they never miss with their final boss music

[rotund shore]

yeah the end is cool

[earnest flare]

ok well yeah the music will never not be good

[fierce pagoda]

are scarlet and violet the latest pokemon games?

[rotund shore]

tbh scarvi has better writing then nearly every other mainline pokemon game

[rotund shore]

latest mainline, yes

[earnest flare]

nah im p sure they released some irrelevant mobile game

[fierce pagoda]

LOL mobile

[graceful otter]

if u can count gf to do two things good its:
creature designs
music

[fierce pagoda]

point and laugh people

[graceful otter]

whar

[rotund shore]

don't diss pokemon sleep

[earnest flare]

they always do

[graceful otter]

wasnt sleep done during swsh

[rotund shore]

pretty sure it released past scarvi

[fierce pagoda]

its called pokemon sleep, because thats what you will be doing while playing it

[rotund shore]

it was july 2023

[rotund shore]

YES, THATS THE POINT

[graceful otter]

oh damn

[fierce pagoda]

that joke has probably been made a million times before i made it

[rotund shore]

YOU SLEEP, TO PLAY THE GAME

[graceful otter]

do we tell him

[fierce pagoda]

I havent even played the game

[rotund shore]

THE POINT IS THAT YOU SLEEP

LEARN HOW THE GAME WORKS BEFORE MAKING A JOKE

[fierce pagoda]

i just wanted to shit on it for being a mobile game

[earnest flare]

how long can we keep going before a mod kills us all for not loring...

[fierce pagoda]

nah imma spread hate

yeah we should probably get back on topic

[graceful otter]

alligators suck ass iirc

[fierce pagoda]

who know maybe a mod has been spying the whole time

[rotund shore]

Angler npc text bubble

[fierce pagoda]

too bad im a colgator

[graceful otter]

nah imma spread hate

[fierce pagoda]

good

[graceful otter]

🖕

[rotund shore]

anyways lets talk about calamity lore, like how alligators suck ass

[earnest flare]

anyways why doesnt silva just revive herself is she stupid

[fierce pagoda]

the student has become the master

[magic epoch]

Yes

[rotund shore]

she is reviving, slowly

[earnest flare]

ok so she's half-stupid?

[rotund shore]

she'll come back when she feels like it, give her time

[fierce pagoda]

by the time she comes back she can finally chill

[earnest flare]

a non stupid person would revive fast

[fierce pagoda]

like Yharim will be dead by that point

[rotund shore]

yeah if she revived before we killed yharim she would just be spawnkilled tbh

[fierce pagoda]

Brealor and Statis may need couple counseling though

[magic epoch]

why does the goddess of LIFE take so long to revive

[graceful otter]

theory: silva and anahita were lesbian couples before silva left to become godhood and came back ruining the water with too much life which prompted anahita to leave

[fierce pagoda]

maybe Silva is a good love doctor

[earnest flare]

then revive again???

[rotund shore]

Now that I think about it has silva just been sitting on the "You were slain..." screen for the past however long since she died

[graceful otter]

its also why theyre the only named elementals in the mod

its because they had a relationship

[fierce pagoda]

Ship sank into the abyss like Silva

[rotund shore]

They gave eachother the names, they thought it was a cute relationship thing

[earnest flare]

no actually they just need to meet back up again after dog did the homophobic act of splitting them up

wait no signus split them up dog just sent em both there

[fierce pagoda]

Did Dog even know

[earnest flare]

signus is homophobic 🗣️

[rotund shore]

DoG doesn't really care about the relationships of his foes I think

whenever people call the rune of kos bosses the distortion trio, I instantly imagine that a new trio of pokemon legendaries has dropped

we havent had a good legendary trio in pokemon for awhile due to no definitive versions

[earnest flare]

giratina noway

but three!

[rotund shore]

giratina, giratwona, giratrio

[magic epoch]

light trio is awesome but idk if you'd count that as recent

[rotund shore]

ig we had yveltal, xerneas, and zygarde but zygarde didn't get their game

[rotund shore]

who is that again

[magic epoch]

sun and moon

[earnest flare]

not yet

[graceful otter]

i wish they did more with the lake trio

[magic epoch]

solgaleo necrozma and lunala

[graceful otter]

because theyre like

[rotund shore]

yeah I guess necrozma counts as rounding out the trio

[graceful otter]

rlly important to lore

[earnest flare]

legends z-a is approaching

[graceful otter]

they were the 4-6th things created by arceus

[earnest flare]

which one is the lake trio again

[rotund shore]

azelf, mespirit, and the other one

fucking uxie

[fierce pagoda]

Arceus vs Xeroc

[magic epoch]

the gen 4 psychic babies

[graceful otter]

mespirit, azelf and uxie

[earnest flare]

forgettable ahh pokemon

[rotund shore]

arceus is like capital G God, it wins in a landslide

[fierce pagoda]

who can take Arceus

[earnest flare]

ok but xeroc is a capital X god

[fierce pagoda]

does Arceus have a mega evo

[magic epoch]

you didn't capitalize Xeroc though

so

[earnest flare]

i dont capitalise stuff under almost any circumstance

Because who the fuck talks in perfect grammar, on discord???

i hate people who do that

[magic epoch]

i know a few people

[rotund shore]

Speaking of pokemon, SGDQ's teal mask speedrun is starting

[earnest flare]

when are they gonna speedrun the magic muffler smh...

[rotund shore]

the magic muffler is such a good bit

[fierce pagoda]

why is "Because" capitalized then?

[median locust]

guys

[fierce pagoda]

checkmate

[earnest flare]

yall its a chair

[fierce pagoda]

wow a talking chair

[median locust]

lopunny vs Arceus

[fierce pagoda]

☹️

[rotund shore]

lopunny is just, a rabbit

[graceful otter]

depends

[earnest flare]

battle format or no?

[rotund shore]

sure it has STAB return but who cares

[graceful otter]

first, we need to find out if ur talking about in a gameplay battle or in lore

[earnest flare]

if its a battle, arceus can miss attacks (and is also heavily nerfed from lore accuracy)

[graceful otter]

in lore it should be pretty obvious which would win

if its in a gameplay battle, which gen is this

and is loppunny mega

[median locust]

☠️

[graceful otter]

and which form is arceus in

[rotund shore]

if mega lopunny is here then thats a huge ass advantage

[earnest flare]

and which items are both using

[magic epoch]

tbh arceus still probably oneshots with a stab espeed

[median locust]

🤸
🦽 🏌️ get outa here bro

[earnest flare]

and does either side have extra pokemon

[rotund shore]

thing is arceus still has such absurd BST and move potential

[median locust]

🤸
🦽 🏌️

[earnest flare]

woah is that a golf reference

[rotund shore]

and can also just like, turn ghost type to say no to lopunny getting any STAB

and while maybe lopunny gets some dark stuff to counter that, that also depends on gen

[median locust]

lvl 1 lore accurate arceus vs lvl 5000 lopunny

[earnest flare]

god > not god

[rotund shore]

if its lore accurate, then arceus wins

it can just destroy lopunny in an instant

arceus is God, its literally just God

[graceful otter]

u say that, but if it can mega it has scrappy

plus lopunny isnt limited to normal and fighting moves

gen 6+ it gets play rough

[rotund shore]

Oh right it has scrappy

I didn't really play the 3ds gens

haven't beaten any of em

[graceful otter]

also espeed max atk arceus wont ohko the majority of the time

[median locust]

why do you know this much

[graceful otter]

even with choice band

[graceful otter]

i used to play competitive games in showdown for gen 6, 7 and a bit of 8

and play casually in ranbats

and also a bit of doubles in 7 and 8

[median locust]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook

cool

👍

[rotund shore]

since im shit at competitive I occasionally do random battles

[median locust]

I'll just stop talking

[magic epoch]

what about lopunny

can she ohko?

[graceful otter]

mega or nah?

[magic epoch]

yes

if it does then see normal

[graceful otter]

ok so

its not an ohko, but lopunny has access to fake out

so it can fake out then close combat

[rotund shore]

I just decided to do a gen 9 random battle, and my opponent conceded as soon as I killed their first pokemon

[magic epoch]

protect tbh

[graceful otter]

this is with jolly wait

with a speed orientated arceus instead of hp

[languid badge]

noob can I ask why you're looking at damage calcs

[graceful otter]

someone asked who would win: lopunny or arceus

also, lopunny is faster than arceus

[languid badge]

depends entirely on the arceus set

[rotund shore]

Why isn't florges grass type

[graceful otter]

arceus would need to play jolly to outspeed lopunny

[languid badge]

you dont need the speed

you have extreme speed

[graceful otter]

espeed doesnt ohko

but fake out + cc will

[languid badge]

chopple:

[rotund shore]

should I try and beat violet with only magikarp, im horrendously bored

[languid badge]

besides this implies that lopunny can mega but arceus cant just become a flying type

[graceful otter]

mf do u mean chople

[languid badge]

chopple berry

[graceful otter]

its one p

[languid badge]

wha

[graceful otter]

extreme speed doesnt get stab bonus

[languid badge]

ok

at that point it doesnt matter

because if you're flying arceus

[graceful otter]

yea because return is a 2ko

[languid badge]

you have a super effective stab move

[graceful otter]

i was rlly gonna ask if arceus had a good flying move and just forgot judgement existed

[earnest flare]

lmao

[graceful otter]

ok

now arceus wins

i think?

because flying arceus can run timid judgement, with maxed out speed and special atk, which will ohko mega lopunny UNLESS mega lopunny runs a jolly set with max speed and somehow ohkos arceus first

or

"ohkos"

the move only needs to do atleast 90% of arceus' hp, since fake out

[languid badge]

arceus has no reason to ever run max speed because max speed lop outruns regardless

[graceful otter]

quick wat moves can mega lop learn that will obliterate arceus

true

we could run hp or def evs on arceus instead then

[drifting canyon]

high jump kick

[languid badge]

I am fairly certain that stab return is legit their best option
actually wait

[drifting canyon]

if it's ekiller arceus

[graceful otter]

this is flying arceus

[drifting canyon]

oh hm

[graceful otter]

mega lop fucking obliterates normal arceus

[graceful otter]

dear god

[languid badge]

me when the fighting type beats the normal type

[drifting canyon]

she gets ice and thunder punches

[languid badge]

those are

worse than just clicking return

[graceful otter]

3hko

[graceful otter]

freeze chance:

[drifting canyon]

lol

[graceful otter]

flail strats

incredible

timeto beef up arceus hp

[drifting canyon]

she is not surviving two turns lmfao

[graceful otter]

fake out

fake out, endure, flail

[magic epoch]

also arceus can just

[drifting canyon]

what a fucking awful set lmfao

[magic epoch]

protect

and negate fake out

[graceful otter]

who protects turn 1

why is a flying arceus running protect

[magic epoch]

plan for the fake out 🧌

[wheat walrus]

what

[languid badge]

lop has ran things that are like 70% as bad before

heal bell lop is like a semi real thing in gen 6 iirc

[graceful otter]

crazy

[pliant ruin]

i could beat arceus

id uhmm

go up to it and say it smells bad

[languid badge]

I dont think it would care much

[magic epoch]

iirc torment doesn't deal damage

[pliant ruin]

it would!!!

because

i'm strawberry cxheese

my opinion is very important

to everyon

and verhyint

everyjtomg

[languid badge]

I dont think it cares about how it smells

[magic epoch]

since arceus is God it knows that you're lying to it and yourself by saying that

[pliant ruin]

i'm not lying

stop

ur gaslighting m

[rotund shore]

arceus can just will itself to not smell bad

so if it does smell bad its intentional

[pliant ruin]

all of u hate me

im just a girl

[magic epoch]

a girlkisser

[pliant ruin]

that too

i mean

no im not

im staright

straig

starighbt

straight

[languid badge]

very convincing

[drifting canyon]

im straight
"i love my gfs" as status

[graceful otter]

as straight as me

actually wait cheese is probably gayer

[magic epoch]

this you?

[graceful otter]

from a different perspective, it is straight

[pliant ruin]

wow haha i wonder how that got there!! Definitely wasnt me who wrote ir

Brcause im straight

[drifting canyon]

cant believe a lesbian hacked you smh my head

[spring helm]

Straight oppression

[late moth]

this evil notjustice will nout stand....................

[spring helm]

hey

there's fishing in between too

[magic epoch]

and also afton robotics

[crimson finch]

Who’s this Fabsol fella and why do they posses 7 different Developer Items

[warm gull]

I think he's the guy they hired to write their changelogs

[magic epoch]

i think he's cirrus' alt

[stuck shore]

How does eidolon tablet connect to lunatic cultist

[scenic yacht]

eidolists were members of the dragon cult

[humble fog]

It was reb

Mods can change status now

Or something

:3

[hollow plaza]

did the cult workship Yharon?

[buoyant inlet]

Somewhat, probably

They worshipped dragons in general

[hollow plaza]

and how is that the Adult Eidolon Wyrm is stronger than Yharon?

[mighty zenith]

living in a harsh environment + silva's blessing + eidolon wyrms being really strong in general

also experience due to age

[buoyant inlet]

Need to clarify, it's no longer called like that

It's primordial wyrm now

It's the first wyrm that was blessed by Silva

Wyrm is very old, it lived in the arguably harshest environment on the planet, and of course the blessing from goddess of life

[crimson finch]

Wyrm is best puppy

Pat Pat cute dog

I’d have it as a pet

[hoary berry]

go back to 1.3 and you can have just that, in full scale too

[scenic olive]

Yharwyrm

strongest creature

[hollow plaza]

isn't Silva...dead?

[graceful otter]

no

[hollow plaza]

isn't she a god?

[hoary berry]

if you mean silva, she's the god of life yeah

and while she isn't necessarily alive in a traditional sense, she is not dead

[hollow plaza]

Yharim you had 1 job and you failed!

[mighty zenith]

schrodinger's goddess

[graceful otter]

shes also the nature elemental, so she just cant die

[hollow plaza]

not with that actitude

[calm patio]

[buoyant inlet]

Kind of but not really

She can't properly die as goddess of life and elemental of nature

Currently she's in vegetable state at the bottom of the abyss, slowly growing back

[warm gull]

It's confusing to me that the elemental of nature is just immune to death

Like that seems ridiculously powerful to just have as a passive ability

[hoary berry]

aren't all elementals immune to death, in a sense, so long as their element remains in the world or something?

[warm gull]

Idk I thought we killed anahita

[buoyant inlet]

I imagine that elementals can be killed, but as long as their element exists, they will come back, but this new individual will be different from the previous one

[cloud ibex]

Silva lucked out

[graceful otter]

i dont think anahita has any gores

[buoyant inlet]

You know now that I think about it, it could be fun if elementals had more "organic" looking traits in them, but still represented their domain, like Anahita

She doesn't look like she's made out of water

But she serves as water elemental pretty well

And Silva also has human like skin

But with her being nature elemental it's not surprising

[warm gull]

It's strange to me that silva is more powerful than anahita considering water's importance to life and also the fact that there is presumably more water than life? (using conceptual or artificially defined things as elements in worldbuilding has always been confusing to me)

Like water is not dependent on life for It's existence

Some life in cal may not need water but most does

[buoyant inlet]

Well we don't know if Silva's stronger than anahita

Silva's just good at not dying

[warm gull]

And do things like astral infection creatures fall into silva's domain?

[buoyant inlet]

I'd imagine no

Only Terraria beings fall under her domain

[warm gull]

If silva's domain of nature is just anything natural it would make more sense for her to be ridiculously powerful because everything is made of natural things

[buoyant inlet]

And it's the same with all elementals probably

[warm gull]

But it seems to mean nature as in green shit and plants etc

[graceful otter]

pretty sure nature and life are meant to be plants and animals

maybe nature includes fungi too but theres no proof of that

[buoyant inlet]

I don't think anahita would be able to control water on Europa moon

[warm gull]

Yeah this is why having an elemental of a concept is confusing to me, because the line of what counts as nature vs what doesn't is not clearly defined

[buoyant inlet]

I'd say any living beings count

And stuff that are arguably living idk

Like viruses

[warm gull]

Astral infection creatures?

The corruption/crimson?

[buoyant inlet]

They're not from Terraria

Or well

They were from Terraria but were overtaken by space infection, so I won't count them

Idk about evils

Man I type like trash huh

[graceful otter]

why are we asking what falls under her domain and not what being in her domain actually means as a power

[eager bluff]

evils depends
crimson id say counts as its a living organism essentially, corruption is a bit more iffy

[buoyant inlet]

Well, they are living beings, but they're not very natural

[warm gull]

Like the elemental of water makes sense, she has domain over anything that consists of 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom

[buoyant inlet]

FUNGI BLAST

[graceful otter]

nlast

[buoyant inlet]

Nlast

[graceful otter]

wrong

cloud elemental exists

so clearly theres a distinction

[warm gull]

Brimstone elemental is also just a substance

[buoyant inlet]

Cloud elementals have sky as a domain

Or smth like that

[warm gull]

Yeah a cloud is also a vaguely defined term

[warm gull]

Elementals want to spread their domain so what qualifies as their domain is important

[warm gull]

Also sand elementals are strange

[graceful otter]

this doesnt disprove anything

[warm gull]

Basically "elementals of finely ground rocks"

And ONLY finely ground

[graceful otter]

cloud elemental can also manipulate h2o, which by daichins definition, should be only something anahita could do

[scenic yacht]

salt

[warm gull]

The other rocks are for the earth elemental

[graceful otter]

earth elemental isnt a real elemental

[eager bluff]

yeah

[buoyant inlet]

It's a robot golem built by azafurians

[eager bluff]

its artificial

[warm gull]

Then I guess there is no elemental for rocks that aren't finely ground

[scenic yacht]

did you not look at the image before

[buoyant inlet]

Sand elementals domain is earth so they probably cover rocks as well

[graceful otter]

cal players cant read duh

[scenic yacht]

true

[warm gull]

It was just confusing

[scenic yacht]

basically just the elementals can choose what they appear as so long as its part of their element

[warm gull]

And also most of these enemies existed before the new lore did so all of this is presumably retroactively written

I doubt the earth elemental was originally designed to not be an actual elemental

[buoyant inlet]

I think it would be better if elementals actually covered their domain better in their designs

[warm gull]

It just doesn't match the designs of the other elementals

[buoyant inlet]

Well it wasn't real even in old lore

It was a robot built by draedon

[eager bluff]

it was originally a horse

[warm gull]

Weird

Then why even name it that...?

[buoyant inlet]

He was an artificial elemental

[eager bluff]

comparing that to every other elemental yeah you can definitely see why they cut it out of their circle

[warm gull]

It would have probably just been cleaner to redesign the elemental or rename it then to make it a robot golem built by azafurians and then keep the name for some reason

[buoyant inlet]

I'm pretty sure it will be redesigned at some point

I remember I did a sketch redesign of it

[warm gull]

It's just that elementals seem pretty important in the lore given anahita, brimstone and silva, so having this earth elemental that is actually something else share the exact name scheme is very confusing

[buoyant inlet]

I might try to finish it one day....

[warm gull]

What do you think that distinction actually is tho

That's the part of "elemental" stuff that always confuses me whether it's magic systems or in this case, domains

[scenic olive]

Does elementals feel pain

[solar wharf]

they dont have nerves?

[scenic olive]

what about Silva

Cloud elementals are clouds

so no nervous system

[cosmic zenith]

It will, yes
We have already discussed some ideas

I still think it should be named to Earthen Elemental

But I think I'm the only one

[hollow plaza]

rocky the elemental

[random mulch]

moving pile of rocks

[scenic olive]

Rock Elemental

[pliant ruin]

dwayne

[hollow plaza]

the wok

[warm gull]

They should remove the creature's name

Nameless entity

[scenic olive]

the Nameless

the ...

[woeful patio]

Me when " " killed me

[latent bolt]

artificial elementals

[random mulch]

lithoconstruct

[stark basalt]

I’m so used to our lore discussion stuff

I don’t even know where I was going with that

[hoary berry]

you've been infected for too long

your memory is failing

[stark basalt]

Saw some guy on YouTube talking about noxus being the one to kill the dragons

I was about to hit them with one of these

Ummm actuallyyyyyy

[hoary berry]

i've never watched a lore vid

and probably never will

if i do it will be with the intention to laugh at it probably

[stark basalt]

It was legit a random comment under one of the music vids😭

[urban hedge]

NEW LORE JUST DROPPED, ALL GODS AND FOVOS ARE NOXUS/NOXUS' SIBLING 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
THE PLAYER CHARACTER TOO, SINCE YOU KILL YHARON 🔥🔥🔥

[stark basalt]

Guys

I need gang here rn

[pliant ruin]

im noxus irl

[trail zodiac]

no

don’t believe

need proof

[neat tinsel]

the real noxus was the friends we made along the way

[thick slate]

noxus

more like

erm

[neat tinsel]

what about gangster noxus

[thick slate]

noxus the typa guy to say what the ssigma

[stark basalt]

Erm

[trail zodiac]

nokus

[hoary berry]

coke is noxus confirmed?????

[neat tinsel]

he now wears a fedora and trench coat

[stark basalt]

tips fedora

[thick slate]

which calamity characters are skibidi

[trail zodiac]

me

me

[neat tinsel]

drae drae

[stark basalt]

Coke lost his mind in cmt and came here

[thick slate]

draedon definitely consuming brainrot

[trail zodiac]

he told us to go off topic here

[thick slate]

i did not

false

[trail zodiac]

i have PROFO

[thick slate]

ai

[stark basalt]

We have proof

[thick slate]

photoshop

[trail zodiac]

no

[stark basalt]

Has the enemy ever ascended beyond your control?

[mint tendon]

yeah

many times

[trail zodiac]

i need a selfie

to prove

like

this is me

irl

[trail zodiac]

omg

that’s noxus

[mint tendon]

guys does crabulon have fur

[pliant ruin]

no

[mint tendon]

really

[pliant ruin]

it has mushrooms

[magic epoch]

it's kinda like moss

[mint tendon]

oh right

it is mushrooms

it looked like hair at first

its just mushroom stalks

[trail zodiac]

i forgot to eat dinner last night

[mint tendon]

how do you forget to eat dinner 💀

[pliant ruin]

its ok i forget to eat sometimes

[magic epoch]

me too and then i have to eat something at 12 am

[trail zodiac]

i was cooking until 11

and forgot

[hoary berry]

you're like a certified chef now i swear

[trail zodiac]

yes

[stark basalt]

I need to learn how to draw

For lore reasons

[hoary berry]

so you can draw more braent?

[stark basalt]

So I can draw more braent, yes

[trail zodiac]

draw dredon