lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

why is this in the lore channel

[earnest flare]

probably the underworld's lore item

[viral dagger]

prolly ash and obsidian or smthn

realistically then stone, obsidian, ash blocks, and dirt

[forest knot]

Understandable

Ty

[spring helm]

you could also use granite, or any other igneous rock

[forest knot]

What about brimstone

Aka sulfur

[viral dagger]

science classroom ahh question

[forest knot]

🤓

[pliant ruin]

I mean respectfully why r u asking here like

i mean

does like

real world geology count as lore

it's like

earth lore

i guess

like

real life lore

[spring helm]

honestly i would say use blocks that fit the colour and aesthetic, rather than prioritizing blocks that would be found in a volcano

[pliant ruin]

this is "lore discussion" not "calamity lore discussion"

so with that said

i will now be talking about limbus company lore

[spring helm]

ping a mod and ask if it counts

[earnest flare]

ok calamity lore

so going off of tooltips the photoviscerator is too weak

its supposed to eviscerate everything...

[viral dagger]

when has this channel ever been about the lore anyway

[spring helm]

tooltip scaling let's go

[earnest flare]

but actually it cant even hit calamitas through her shield

[viral dagger]

wait what why

idk the photooviscerator toolti[

[earnest flare]

oh yeah why dont armor piercing accessories go through calamitas' shield too

[earnest flare]

"disintegrates everything"

thats the important part

[viral dagger]

oh well i know this one

the player character can only hit in 2D

calamitas just steps to the side

it probably works like Love Train, if anyone knows jojos

just a totally impenetrable barrier

[spring helm]

me when i spin really quickly

[viral dagger]

Tusk Act 4, spin his balls

calamitas watching me perfect the golden ratio and breaking through her barrier to

[pliant ruin]

i will break through her barrier to say "sorry about ur shield i just think uve been through alot and you deserve it" and offer her a really tasty hamburger i bought from a fast food chain i like

[spring helm]

beat her up (in self defence) and then apologize

[viral dagger]

nooo D:

[spring helm]

that she CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO THE MAN

TERRARIAN SWEEEEEEP

[earnest flare]

heres how i would deal with calamitas:

• invite her over for an unforgettable luncheon
• set the food i was making on fire
• buy some burgers from the local fast food chain and disguise it as my own cooking
• brush the kitchen fire off as aurora borealis
• reject any attempts for her to see it
• eat some good old steamed hams

[viral dagger]

TERARRIAN!!!!! THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!!!!!

[wheat walrus]

calamitas watching me punch the bubble shield into subatomic particles

[sinful adder]

do the aurora borealis trick but its actually permafrost making an aurora borealis

[crimson finch]

Is Polterghast tied to the Spectre Bars that’s able to be crafted using chlorophite and the ghost goop?

[spring helm]

alright i've reached the part where statis attacks Yharim

what weapon does the legendary ninja use

[hoary berry]

I would say dual daggers laced with poison made by silva (so it's special poison or something idk) but poison probably isn't the best weapon against someone in a full suit of incredibly tough armour

[earnest flare]

(this is this man's headcanon)

[earnest flare]

its unknown

[hoary berry]

Well yeah I thought we were just making suggestions since this is a fanfic

[real silo]

Gel darts

[crimson finch]

He uses the fruit cake chakrim

[real silo]

Statis actually uses the void sash as his source of damage

straight up just spams dashes until yharim dies

[spring helm]

ram dash

a god does not sugercoat this

[real silo]

You see if statis wasn't dumb he would've used a ram and he would've been able to dodge dog

[hoary berry]

Could've kept all his limbs

[real silo]

no that'd be braelor's job

Statis should've waited until distortion update

Maybe he wouldn't need to lose his limbs then

[sinful adder]

Man, I wish we had the next update

[scenic olive]

Catgirl dragon

[pliant ruin]

did someone say catgirl

[mighty zenith]

🤯

[scenic olive]

Cheese catgirl

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-homura-mahou-shoujo-dumb-wife-gif-14772042368545078379

[scenic olive]

cheesegirl

Girlled Cheese

Yummy

[pliant ruin]

fun factoid

both characters at focus within this gif could individually defeat every single calamity character at once

[mighty zenith]

[pliant ruin]

i'm not a powerscaler i just thik that's funny

go my lesbians

i'm hoping someone sees this message without knowing anything about madoka and questions it because it'd be really funny to explain how

anyways

good morning lore chat

i did not sleep

when i realized it was already 6 am it was too late for me

[scenic olive]

Does Yharim workout

Does he have cheat meal

What are his secrets

[pliant ruin]

yharim eats raw beef

[scenic olive]

Raw fishrons

[pliant ruin]

he thinks it makes him stronger because it's a natural diet but it actually just gives him alot of diseases

[real silo]

There's no need to question it they're simply ripped

[pliant ruin]

The actual explanation is funnier than that

trust me

[hoary berry]

Good morning :3

[pliant ruin]

good morning chemistry waterfowl

[scenic olive]

Can Yharon rip open coconut with his bare hands

yharim*

[lean crag]

Yes

[blazing mulch]

how many much women yharim has have had is he the rizzler with skibidi rizz and millon aura !!??

[shut tide]

Do not.

[blazing mulch]

😡😡 balls itchy

[shut tide]

[buoyant inlet]

0

[shut tide]

does yharim respect women

[buoyant inlet]

He was too busy doing murder and committing war crimes

[shut tide]

and throwing people in the abyss

[zinc lance]

Did you know braelor likes ants

[shut tide]

yeah

[zinc lance]

No way that’s a well kept secret

I thought it would blow your mind

[urban hedge]

Could this be why?

[cosmic zenith]

Nope
Eidolon Wyrms birth Eidolon Wyrms, Wyverns birth Wyverns, Follies birth Follies

The way I see it, only Auric Dragons entirely defy biology, due to their bodies mirroring their Auric soul
Draconic offshoots are highly consistent and could be categorized into species

Auric Dragons definitely weren't a species

There's a limited numbers of domains, hence a limited number of Auric souls
While all Auric souls were embodied, the children of Auric Dragons were birthed without Auric souls, becoming draconic offshoots

Nope
Offshoots are Dragons that aren't Auric Dragons

Can't really be the case, since it's confirmed that offshoots are descendants
And Auric Dragons came to be an indefinite time in the past, long before the dawn of mankind, while offshoots only first appeared in the late Draconic Era

[brisk frigate]

stip loring those that simply don't understand like he does

[cosmic zenith]

(I'm just clarifying stuff)

[brisk frigate]

true

[cosmic zenith]

@sinful adder @viral dagger @pliant ruin

[buoyant inlet]

Still curious about how dragon offshoots multiplied beyond first born individuals.

For example, if we have 2 auric dragons making children that, let's say, will be the first dragonfollies. So how will those follies reproduce? They can't do that with each other because that would be inbreeding, and in long run that would just kill the population. Would they instead mate with another unrelated auric dragons? Or another offshoots?

[cosmic zenith]

It's definitely a problem
I have a theory, and despite it probably being the only way to explain it, I don't like how it sounds

You know how I said Auric Dragons defy biology?

So, what if the members of an offshoot's original generation weren't siblings genetically?

I think you can see why I don't like the sound of this explanation

[buoyant inlet]

Yeah understandable

[trim edge]

what does that mean

[cosmic zenith]

The first generation reproduced among themselves without it being classified as inbreeding

[trim edge]

dragons are just built different and their inbreeding doesn't cause any problems

[buoyant inlet]

I can imagine that the first generation of offshoots can still have some strong genome from auric dragons, so they can reproduce with them. Maybe offshoot's own genes are stronger still (because they're more biologically "natural"), so they can reproduce with different auric dragons, and their kids still will be relatively the same and similar to offshoots.

Maybe like in invincible, viltrumites could reproduce with other races, and their kids would pretty much be almost pure viltrumites

[brisk frigate]

||the first generations had a whole lot of incest, very common among other animals (and for some species technically not inbreeding genetic wise)||

[cosmic zenith]

It's not that
It's that while they have the same parents, their genes are really different
As if they were complete strangers

[brisk frigate]

so greek god inbreeding

[cosmic zenith]

Not really
Greek Gods aren't ever regulated by genes

[cosmic zenith]

Which makes sense given that Auric Dragon biology isn't regulated by genes, and any offshoot born could have any genetic makeup

Even if they still have the same features, likely due to inheriting some anatomical aspects of their parents

[brisk frigate]

but that raises a question, if 2 breed. What about their offspring the next generation

sure those 2 are genetically different, their offspring don't seem to be

[cosmic zenith]

Correct
It'd be more limited

[brisk frigate]

so it leads back to inbreeding 💀

[cosmic zenith]

But I don't think the first generation was just 2 individuals

That would be really unrealistic

[brisk frigate]

realistically they'd be able to repopulate with similar species leading to the current one (which would be the auric dragons, and the other offshoots)

or ig not similar, borderline identical until evolution takes it's course

[buoyant inlet]

I also imagine that the first generations of offshoots were more similar to each other in some way, so they probably could reproduce with each other.

With the exception of wyrms ig

Unless PW in its resprite will be very different from normal wyrms

[brisk frigate]

tbh I think the offshoot thing def was one part skimmed over if you think about it between the lines

[cosmic zenith]

The intention is to keep them roughly similar

[buoyant inlet]

(Which ideally I think should be the case. It should resemble normal wyrms, but still be pretty distinct and different enough, more archaic and draconic I think)

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, it definitely wasn't the most elaborated part

[brisk frigate]

could an offshoot and auric dragon breed, another odd thing (hell, they could be equal ages instead of a 'drake' auric dragon)

[cosmic zenith]

I did give it thought, but just me I think

[cosmic zenith]

I personally would say "no"

[brisk frigate]

dragon genetics will simply be "because magic" and it may need to stay that way

if an auric dragon and offshoot was born by the same parents, they'd be genetically unrelated when that's obviously (in a sense) not the case. Auric dragon genetics truly an oddity

[buoyant inlet]

There's always a fucked up possibility that they did went through inbreeding and somehow survived

Like cheetah maybe

It's not the best option from narrative standpoint tho

In fact it's quite bad

[brisk frigate]

like bees

(they inbreed a lot, but genetically are unaffected)

how you do with this info when you have a royal bee oc will yet to be(e) seen

[viral dagger]

i just woke up whats up

oh are we still on the dragon species debate?

[cosmic zenith]

I answered your doubts in the earlier discussion

Well, clarified things, rather

[viral dagger]

all dragons have auric souls, right?

[brisk frigate]

no

[viral dagger]

why is that

[brisk frigate]

they're limited

not genetic

[viral dagger]

is that why impure species were able to pop up?

[brisk frigate]

so they can't be passed down. Or reproduced

not really impure

[graceful otter]

because draconic offshoots count as dragons too

[brisk frigate]

they are dragons

just not auric dragons

[delicate jacinth]

Im just wondering

Could it be possible to actually destroy an auric soul

[solar wharf]

imagine this, if my father owns a gun, and im born, would i come with a gun? no

he has to give it to me

[delicate jacinth]

It can be stored

[solar wharf]

auric souls are like that

[delicate jacinth]

It can be manipulated

[graceful otter]

no

[viral dagger]

no

however

if you return it to the world soul, it effectively is

at least until you draw it back out with the ritual

[graceful otter]

auric souls dont come from the world soul

[viral dagger]

oh god

no my theory

where do they come from

if their not genetic they had to have been drawn from somewhere right

[delicate jacinth]

Yeah

[viral dagger]

i dont see a source powerful enough to hold all of those auric souls other than the world soul

[hoary berry]

the world soul became "fragmented" at some point

but we really don't know what it truly was or why this happened

[delicate jacinth]

Also btw how much has been theorized about the domain mutation when consuming an auric soul

It sounds cool as hell and I would love to hear others theories about it

[viral dagger]

the world sol being fragmented was probably why auric souls were able to be drawn out in the first place, no?

[graceful otter]

domain mutation when absorbing an auric soul depends on the person

[delicate jacinth]

Like their personality and stuff or?

[graceful otter]

yes

[delicate jacinth]

Interesting

[graceful otter]

just them as a person

their personality, their views, their goals

[viral dagger]

how did xeroc know the ritual to extract an auric soul

[graceful otter]

they certainly did

[viral dagger]

i think its because it was discovered by the dragons when getting their auric souls from the world soul

[brisk frigate]

it's not explained publically yet, but they certainly did learn too

[delicate jacinth]

I mean wasnt he a monk of the dragon cult? Maybe they had found out more about how the auric souls work

[brisk frigate]

and did

[viral dagger]

unless he just happened to guess how to do it on the first try

[hoary berry]

could've been that zeratros explained it to them

[viral dagger]

that could reasonable be explained that the knowledge of taking an auric soul had been passed down by the cult through the ritual

[brisk frigate]

no

[viral dagger]

why would zeratros end the draconic era like that

[brisk frigate]

he isn't, the cult was a thing after people like xeroc I think

[hoary berry]

we don't know what really happened on the day that xeroc ascended

[delicate jacinth]

Oh damn

I got that part wrong then

[brisk frigate]

he's not really cult like

he's a dragon monk a thing much closer then a cult member

does they predate them, I'd say yes

[hoary berry]

we have no clue as to the circumstances surrounding their ascension other than that stuff was bad because of fovos

[viral dagger]

if only we didnt have to wait a year for minor updates and we could get more information on this

im pretty sure my world soul explanation makes the most sense

[graceful otter]

xeroc didnt worship the dragons, like the cult, but were actually close freinds with them

[brisk frigate]

he was their king's bff

[viral dagger]

oh shit maybe zeratros did tell him

but he was wrong to do so

[scenic olive]

Maybe

Xeroc came up with the ritual

He was like

a dragon nerd

knows too much about the dragons

[real silo]

He clearly watched fovos do Something to fuck up the dragon and then he tried to recreate that and ended up ascending accidentally

[scenic olive]

Accidental godhood

I think Xeroc came up with the ritual, and is the first and only person to execute it perfecty

[real silo]

me when I cast a spell I don't know about

[viral dagger]

what would the best weapopn be lore-wise?

and no universe splitter isnt canon

[hoary berry]

iridescent excalibur isn't a dev weapon anymore, so in terms of the materials we use to craft the weapon probably that? (requires both ashes of annihilation and miracle matter)

[rotund shore]

I'm gonna go with iridescent excalibur, it was recently changed to ashes of annihilation + miracle matter and not shadowspec

[viral dagger]

i was thinking that, but we dont really have a measure on exactly how powerful it really is bc its nowhere in lore

[hoary berry]

in terms of pure destructiveness probably supernova though

[viral dagger]

the player character is seemingly the first one to have it

[real silo]

If it receives no changes it will be strong enough to be able to take down yharim

[hoary berry]

that applies to a lot of weapons potentially

and definitely applies to miracle matter stuff

[viral dagger]

yeah your right

[hoary berry]

but we can still compare them to adjacent stuff and figure things out from there

and also consider the type of weapon that it is

[viral dagger]

i wonder what the best setup would be lore-wise, like armor, weapon, accessories

probably auric tesla and seraph tracers

[hoary berry]

demonshade will become a non-dev set armour in the future iirc

on par with exo armour

[rotund shore]

I wonder what the new shadowspec tier armor will be after the demonshade retier

[hoary berry]

both of which i assume will outclass our version of auric, which relies on mock attunement and therefore lacks auric rejection

[scenic olive]

Muramasa

[hoary berry]

the vanilla pre-hm weapon?

[scenic olive]

Murasama or Muramasa

Fuck it

im just gonna call it HF sword

[rotund shore]

I really want a post yharim upgrade to blighted cleaver, I need tyrant yharims ultisword to return!!

[viral dagger]

they need to buff miracle matter items then add Ashes of Annihilation to the recipie

make them the canon endgame gears on par woth dev items

[scenic olive]

I think theyre fine as is

[hoary berry]

dev items will always be the highest tier i imagine?

[viral dagger]

yeah but theyre the best candidate rn

[rotund shore]

dev items will always be post-final boss, so post yharim whenever he releases

[viral dagger]

of course, have all the best gear at the very end of the game, then make it all non-canon

also the cosmic immiterializer summon needs a resprite

[rotund shore]

I wonder if shadowspec will be pre-xeroc if he ever gets added, since if he does it'll be a superboss

[viral dagger]

prolly pre xeroc, i cant imagine them getting buffed that hard without complete reworks

[rotund shore]

this is partly a joke, but also tyrant yharims' ultisword was a rad name I want it back

[viral dagger]

agreed

just throw some miracle matter and auric bars at it and tier shift the hell out of it

or make a whole new weapon

[hoary berry]

frankly i hope we don't end up using any of yharim's personal gear

or even any direct recreations of it

[viral dagger]

eww its all sweaty and shit

full of peeling face skin

[rotund shore]

Fair enough, but I wonder what yharims drops would even be

[hoary berry]

i more meant that i wouldn't want to go around wielding a blade that represents the genocides of entire populations

[real silo]

Yharim drops exo auric plating

[viral dagger]

miracle matter is canonically the players thing, so i imagine it will be some kind of upgrade to that

[rotund shore]

A recreation of yharims armor would be nifty, since its clearly far stronger then our auric tesla

[viral dagger]

i can imagine the final tier of armor to be exo-auric plating plus miracle matter, with an auric design

[hoary berry]

i don't really see how we would manage that though

given that we aren't attuned to a dragon

and cannot be

[real silo]

yharim's armor is only stronger because he can auric reject people

the durability is the same for both, afaik at least

[rotund shore]

You just got auric rejected!! send this to your friends to absolutely auric reject them

[spare pier]

It's in general a bit more stable

[fierce pagoda]

Our current Armor is already superiour or on par with Yharim, in a way. since its what we will be using to defeat him, so while not strictly better ours is on par

[real silo]

the worst she can say is no
auric rejection:

[hoary berry]

not necessarily?

[cosmic zenith]

^

[spare pier]

Not really

[rotund shore]

Theres other armors that will be available, demonshade and exo armor to be specific

[viral dagger]

no yharims is definitely better, the player is just built different and good enough to beat him

[spare pier]

It's not like the fight is an armor competition

[fierce pagoda]

Even if its better, id doesnt warrant us to upgrade, we kill him anyways

[cosmic zenith]

You can beat Yharim even with God Slayer armor if you want
The fighter matters more than their armor

[spare pier]

Oops

[rotund shore]

You can beat yharim without armor if you really really really want

[viral dagger]

lol

[spare pier]

Ass jumpscare

[fierce pagoda]

so much for that "better armor" when we are wearing an inferior version and still win

[glad reef]

doesn't yharim's armor have upgrades from draedon or sum

[hoary berry]

yeah it includes exo tech

though to what extent we don't really know

[real silo]

iron man

[hoary berry]

but it does feature both the rejection of auric armour and the fancy pants tech of exo stuff, so it is incredibly powerful no doubt

[rotund shore]

Between not using a mock attunement and the exo tech, yharims armor is definitely stronger then our auric tesla

[viral dagger]

i think the final armor with be a combination of miracle matter, auric tesla, and exo armor (maybe also ashes of annihilation)

[real silo]

Iron man but instead of tony stark and jarvis it's yharim and draedon

The final armor set will be exo and demonshade

[viral dagger]

thats so underwhelming

[fierce pagoda]

our auric armor is weaker, but what about Exo armor and Demonshade armor? that's different from auric entierly, so they should be on the same level as Yharim no?

[real silo]

unless a dev decides they want a post game armor set

Idk it's pretty awesome imo

[glad reef]

exo and demonshade are prob still weaker than yharim's armor

[earnest flare]

why cant you make armor out of air

[glad reef]

aerialite

[hoary berry]

friendship armour

[spare pier]

I'm making armor out of YOU

[earnest flare]

that is not air

[real silo]

mfs missing the strongest armor out there

Plot armor

[viral dagger]

🤓

[real silo]

Who would want to be worn by a STINKY

[earnest flare]

obligitory "accurate"

[fierce pagoda]

The terrarian is so strong, they can probably beat Yharim with no armor equipped. wait for Yharim no armor no hit videos

[hoary berry]

i'm fragile enough to literally be glass cannon armour. get hit and i will splinter into countless pieces sharp enough to slice your foes

[spare pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

[real silo]

martyrdom

[fierce pagoda]

will the dragon aerie be minable?

[earnest flare]

ok but whats stopping me from making armor out of armor

[rotund shore]

I hope not, would kind of kill all importance of the rock from boss rush in my eyes

[spare pier]

That's just current Auric Armor

[viral dagger]

me oil drilling the dragon aeire

[fierce pagoda]

like imagine just destroying the entire place before you initiate the fight with Yharim

[earnest flare]

oh true

yeah is there a lore reason why auric armor requires other armors to craft

[real silo]

oh yeah that's just my exo mechs arena

[real silo]

there is no lore reason because mishmash auric will be shot dead in a dark alley in miami

[rotund shore]

What will the new auric tesla recipe be?

[fierce pagoda]

why in Miami

[real silo]

miami is fucked up idk

[viral dagger]

holy shit

[fierce pagoda]

auric bars + tape + glue

[real silo]

Not my decision

[rotund shore]

Why doesn't calamitas wear armor, is she stupid?

[real silo]

12 auric bars per piece

[fierce pagoda]

will the magic carpet be removed from auric

[mighty zenith]

too smol

[real silo]

I hope not

Magic carpauric is funny

[viral dagger]

how do you manage to misspell carpet that badlt

[fierce pagoda]

doesnt scal wear demonshade armor

[rotund shore]

it was
it was intentional

[fierce pagoda]

carpet + auric

[real silo]

She does wear armor it's just bubble shaped instead of person shaped

[mighty zenith]

carp-auric

[fierce pagoda]

carpauric

[mighty zenith]

carpet auric

[viral dagger]

fuck im stupid

[rotund shore]

understandable, have a nice day

[real silo]

how did YOU mispell badly that badly

[fierce pagoda]

bald

[viral dagger]

the keys are right next to each other

[fierce pagoda]

is there a chance that Yharim is bald

[viral dagger]

he cononically is

[rotund shore]

I mean, why not

[hoary berry]

he might be

[rotund shore]

bros hair got burnt off in the volcano

[hoary berry]

he could've gotten hair transplants done by draedon

but yeah his original hair is no more

[viral dagger]

he was dunked in lava as a baby i think his hair got destroyed by that

[fierce pagoda]

He's Bald and torturing people with hair

[real silo]

all gods have hair

It's his real motive

he wants to avenge people with hair

[rotund shore]

im looking at providence and uh hm where hair

[viral dagger]

the the only god he couldnt beat was xeroc, who was a probably bald monk

[fierce pagoda]

do you think slime god has tastebuds in his slime

[mighty zenith]

collect a sample of every god's hair to create the perfect wig

[hoary berry]

roots count as hair

[real silo]

The roots

[viral dagger]

ignore the concept art

[fierce pagoda]

like does he taste all the shit he consumes

[viral dagger]

s t o p

[rotund shore]

Yharim is just DougDoug (they're both bald)

[real silo]

I LOVE THE TASTE OF STONE

[fierce pagoda]

not literal shit but shit like as in "things"

[real silo]

GIVE ME ROCKS

[viral dagger]

^this mf discovered salt

[mighty zenith]

do you think yharim refers to his troops as chat

[real silo]

shit (figurative)

[fierce pagoda]

does the taste all the flesh he consumes in the corruption

[viral dagger]

draedon prolly does

[rotund shore]

Draedon, calamitas and permafrost were just his moderators

But all got fired due to drama

[mighty zenith]

calamity but its a dougdoug stream

[fierce pagoda]

Chat burn down this town of believers

[real silo]

not even my goat can escape twitter

We truly live in a society

[rotund shore]

if yharim streamed himself sucking at 2d platformers, I'd watch that in an instant

[viral dagger]

chat is this real

[rotund shore]

he rage quits and auric rejects his controller

[mighty zenith]

yharim streaming would just be uncomfortable noises of a controller because he'd forget he's streaming

[fierce pagoda]

Is Yharim mainly a Puncher or a Sworder

[mighty zenith]

i like to think puncher

[viral dagger]

sword

[real silo]

he punches swords

[rotund shore]

I mean he punched draedons jungle lab

[real silo]

and swords punches

[viral dagger]

yeah he just runs up with auric and throws hands

[mighty zenith]

V1 speech bubble

[viral dagger]

you keep getting rejected

[rotund shore]

I imagined that as like, punching a sword on an anvil to forge it, which is kind of fire

[fierce pagoda]

can you reject the rejection if your strong enough?

[mighty zenith]

he throws swords and punches the handles

[real silo]

with enough defense auric reject hurts less

[fierce pagoda]

as in not getting flinged away by touching it

[rotund shore]

Would be so funny if yharims contact damage actually does KB you if you don't have auric tesla armor equipped

[real silo]

So if you go gigatank it's theoretically possible

[fierce pagoda]

what if you weigh really much

like 1000kg

[real silo]

just having draedon's heart with the nanomachines on is probably enough

recreate the armstrong gif but with yharim and terrarian

[rotund shore]

Can I say the implication from thanatos' spine and draedons heart that we fucking ripped out parts of the robot to use as equipment is so metal

[fierce pagoda]

wow this got me thinking about the weight of our armor, how heavy is the terrarian liftig just by wearing auric

or pure platinum armor

Would Exo armor be heavier than Platinum armor?

[viral dagger]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOGRAM????

[rotund shore]

We have not the slightest idea how much auric bars weigh, not to mention auric teslas armor recipe uses three other armors of confusing weights

[fierce pagoda]

doesnt auric float

[real silo]

the terrarian can carry a fuck ton of weight

9999 stone blocks is a fraction of their max capscity

[viral dagger]

terrarian arguable stronger than minecraft steve

[rotund shore]

Even just in vanilla, a full inventory of golden thrones is insane

[fierce pagoda]

is the Terrarians lifting strength canon tho or do we chalk it up to being gameplay

[rotund shore]

just gameplay really

although they still definitely lift stuff like exo blade which is massive

[viral dagger]

when will the cosmic immaterializer summon get resprited

its so bad

[rotund shore]

Have y'all ever like, dropped endgame calamity swords on the ground just to get a sense of scale with how massive it is?

[fierce pagoda]

Wait until the Exo Spear, will that be the biggest item sprite in calamity?

[rotund shore]

exoblade is inane

[real silo]

just gameplay but it's really funny to think that he can just carry 499950 stone blocks at a time without any speed penalty

[viral dagger]

yeah they stupid

[fierce pagoda]

arent all the exo weapons larger than the terrarian

by a whole lot too

[viral dagger]

iridescent excaibur might be the biggest

imma go test that

[rotund shore]

yeah its a miracle we even hold them

[real silo]

Exo lance is definitely bigger

[hushed geyser]

Bag of holding

[rotund shore]

and I assume miracle matter is one of the most dense things in the world

[fierce pagoda]

Miracle matter vs Pure Auric

[real silo]

it's probably like oobleck

[hushed geyser]

Miracle matter is just silly putty

[fierce pagoda]

whats more potent

[real silo]

Weird Ass Shit

MM definitely

[viral dagger]

miracle matter is %80 mcdonalds sprite by volume actually

[hushed geyser]

Damn that shit hurts to touch

Literally melts you

[rotund shore]

I love the miracle matter recipe, just canonically feels like the terrarian got a new crafting station and put together every crafting material they have

[viral dagger]

auric rejection is just getting hit with the feeling of a mcdonalds sprite

[hushed geyser]

Mmmm

Mcdonalds

[viral dagger]

well yeah thats what happened lol

[hushed geyser]

I'm hungry now

[rotund shore]

I want a mcdonalds sprite

[hushed geyser]

I'm gonna get oen

Fuck you

[real silo]

My condolences

[fierce pagoda]

do you think Yharim does weight training

How heavy are the dumbbells he lifts?

[spring helm]

A yharillion grams

[real silo]

Yharim lifts the entirety of the dragon aerie

[fierce pagoda]

That would be so cool

[viral dagger]

[hoary berry]

i like to imagine he could probably heft around a large concrete building with enough effort

at least

[viral dagger]

how many extra accessory slots would yall consider fair?

[fierce pagoda]

Bro must be jacked

i need to see Yharims physique

[real silo]

Yharim is the average shounen anime grandpa

[viral dagger]

yharim looks like a jojos character

[fierce pagoda]

would Yharim have white hair?

or does dragon magickeep him oung

[hoary berry]

if he has hair at all

[viral dagger]

no its red if anything

[hoary berry]

i imagine it could be any colour he wants

[fierce pagoda]

So Yharim would look like an old, bald, jacked burn victim

[real silo]

He stole yharon's hair for the plume

He himself is bald

[fierce pagoda]

Maybe he looks like that bald guy from metal gear revengance

[real silo]

Sundowner?

[fierce pagoda]

yes that guy

but add some burn scars

[spring helm]

I don’t have image perms so uh…
Rahhhh

#lore-discussion message

[hoary berry]

why is the popcorn cat warned

[viral dagger]

what

[spring helm]

I was off topic on #calamity-update-talk

[wheat walrus]

🤨

[viral dagger]

why are you replying to me with this im so confused

[spring helm]

Just cause

[viral dagger]

[hoary berry]

omni how reasonable do you think this is for yharim

[real silo]

What's wromni

[wheat walrus]

Not that bad honestly

[viral dagger]

i thought yharim was just a regular guy

like high human strength

[wheat walrus]

Yharim lifting the dragon aerie would be worthy of calcs

[wheat walrus]

Yharim is city level at lowball

[viral dagger]

no im saying like without gear

[wheat walrus]

Idk

[viral dagger]

just yharim alone without anything

[real silo]

We don't actually know the size do we

Besides it being phat as phuck compared to normal sky islands

[viral dagger]

with armor and stuff then yeah obv like city level

[wheat walrus]

Yeah

[fierce pagoda]

Has Yharim also eaten stuff like miracle fruit and elderberry?

[real silo]

I don't think so

[fierce pagoda]

or is he starving

[real silo]

He eats dragon fruit maybe

Assuming those grow on the aerie

[fierce pagoda]

yeah thats true

[real silo]

Also it's pretty fucked up how we ate actual human souls

Blood orange just has yharim's soldiers' souls in it

[fierce pagoda]

it was for the greater good

[real silo]

And we ate it

[viral dagger]

and it was delicious

[real silo]

The greater good (25 hp)

[fierce pagoda]

how can you expect us to beat ANY bosses AT ALL if we were missing that critical 25 hp???

defeating Yharim would have been a pipedream

[real silo]

Risk of rain players when they don't get bison steak (they're missing out on 25 hp)

[mighty zenith]

ok but in ror that actually can matter

[strange stump]

when

[real silo]

garbo you are mass

nothing matters

[hoary berry]

but if garbo has mass then surely he has matter?

therefore garbo matters?

[mighty zenith]

antimatter

my foes scatter

[strange stump]

mom's spaghetti

[real silo]

Mass stands for m(ol)ass(es)

[graceful otter]

ass?!

[real silo]

that's right

[spring helm]

Damn this channel really has everything

Boob and ass

[drifting canyon]

[spring helm]

Nothing to see here officer, move along

[real silo]

Popcorn ban speedrun

[zinc lance]

Can’t forget thighs as well

[crimson finch]

You think Yharim gets freaked out when he sees the whole world being fully Corrupted/Hallowed?

[real silo]

He has no allies left and his ass is safe in the aerie

He probably doesn't care

[crimson finch]

Oh yeah he has no friends

Cool

[viral dagger]

what is calamitas

she doesnt quite look human

[graceful otter]

azafurian

[viral dagger]

Does this imply racism lore

[mighty zenith]

read the golem whisper to find out

[viral dagger]

the what

[mighty zenith]

the
the golem lore item

[viral dagger]

uh oh

theres nothing on it about racism

just the lizhards were abandoned

[mighty zenith]

he considers them "beneath him"

[sinful adder]

Yharim is racist to lizards

[random mulch]

i wonder when yharim's sword is gonna get redesigned
or if it's getting redesigned at all

[hoary cape]

Well the one that is his sword in game isn't actually his, so it is getting renamed

I don't know if it has already though

[random mulch]

it already got renamed

ultisword got renamed to blighted cleaver

[hoary cape]

His sword is still the tyrants blade thing

[random mulch]

most recent ref of his actual sword is this thing

[trim edge]

yhword

[brisk frigate]

god that handle 💀

he better not be using both hands with a handle like that

[crimson finch]

Yhupid Yhass Yhword

[lean crag]

Is his head… the guard..?

Or his old designs head

My man’s ego is through the roof

[cosmic zenith]

Megamind looking ahh

[spring helm]

Dev confirmation
Yharim = Megamind

[urban hedge]

Truly, Yharon nurtured Yharim and that caused him to be bad, so Yharim's nature must be to do good
That would explain why Yharim saved Yharon, after all

[pliant ruin]

hi lore people

[spring helm]

👋

[pliant ruin]

i've slept the entire day

yay

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tired-anime-asleep-gif-5634577

[sinful adder]

That sword looks even less practical than most fantasy swords

It's like. A club

[pliant ruin]

i mean that's most things in calamity isn't it

[sinful adder]

It would be a pretty good club actually, if it didn't fall apart from all the cracks in it

[scenic olive]

Me when gold mecha armor

(auric)

[pliant ruin]

i'm sad

[sinful adder]

Most fantasy swords would be kind of practical if they didn't tear themselves to pieces, this one is both impractical in terms of dealing damage and impractical in terms of its going to fall apart

[pliant ruin]

nobody questioned how the silly lesbians can defeat every single calamity character at once so i won't get to use my funny explanation

[pliant ruin]

this is true

but also i think that is

alot of calamity weapons

[real silo]

I question

[pliant ruin]

and terraria weapons honestly

[real silo]

So thee shall answer

[sinful adder]

Maybe the stone isn't doing any cutting and it's actually like a lightsaber style thing

And that's what it looks like when inactive

[pliant ruin]

imean

[real silo]

Crucible no w

[pliant ruin]

yaay

thank you mako

[real silo]

Mako like

🐦

[pliant ruin]

sleeping and being gay is all i've done hte past week

[sinful adder]

That's impractical as hell but it's at least a single solid piece of metal and so it wouldn't fall apart. The Yhord is a pile of rocks that would shatter the moment it touches anything

That's my point, that it's even more impractical than usual

[pliant ruin]

idk anything about forging but i think exoblade looks like

itd break as soon as you try hitting something with it

[graceful otter]

i can only see the lower blade part doing so, and thats only if it recieved blunt damage on like

the near end part

[pliant ruin]

mostly because of the like

connection beetween the handle and the blade

its so thin

[real silo]

It looks like the axe blade has a hand and the hand is holding on to the handle

[late moth]

after doing some research and also finishing dark souls i can say that my previous claim is false to some degree

more so instead of an entire lore being a "reskin" it feels more like certain ideas were taken and then and cut up into smaller pieces and sprinkled amongst the original lore

which didnt really age all that well but thats more of a personal thought

[crimson finch]

Hi chat

bye chat

[pliant ruin]

i think the fact you still insist on being negative without seemingly knowing not only the full extent of calamity lore itself but also not even having fully known what you were comparing it with until now is pretty funny

[late moth]

???

how am i being negative

i admitted that i was wrong

[pliant ruin]

saying the lore is just old lore with dark souls ideas layered on top of it seems rather negative to me

though maybe i'm misunderstanding

[late moth]

i mean is that negative or just true

because i will be the first to admit that it was pretty goofy to immediately judge but after researching (yes i do that) it definitely seems like the case

[pliant ruin]

In all fairness i still don't know anything about dark souls so i can't really say anything

oh well

I highly doubt the lore is just Old Lore with Dark Souls Elements ontop of it but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[late moth]

are there original ideas in calamity? yes, and that should be acknowleged
are they ALL original? ..no

[late moth]

i mean its pretty easy to doubt an idea when you also know nothing about said idea yk

[pliant ruin]

Well of course not all of them are original

but you didn't say that

[late moth]

i mean

i went back and admitted wrong i dont really know what else you want me to say

[pliant ruin]

You said specifically calamity lore is old lore but with dark souls ideas on top of it

Which implies nothing about new lore is original

[late moth]

i mean

if thats what you took from that then okay

[pliant ruin]

I see no other way to interpret it as

more so instead of an entire lore being a "reskin" it feels more like certain ideas were taken and then and cut up into smaller pieces and sprinkled amongst the original lore

[late moth]

mfw i have to meticulously explain every detail and gap so that i dont run the risk of being misunderstood

obviously new lore has original ideas but my main point is that a good handful of the ideas just kind of arent good in the way that theyre too similar to ds1 lore

and any ds game beyond that

[pliant ruin]

that sounds more reasonable

[late moth]

theres nothing wrong with being inspired, but you also have to make sure what youre writing is original enough that it balances out

[pliant ruin]

i'm tired all the time and my brain is bad at understanding people if you don't i'll die

[late moth]

a great example is salt and sanctuary
its obviously heavily inspired by dark souls but it also manages to tell its own story and do its own thing

[fierce pagoda]

Are you guys talking ablut calamity lore pr something else lore rn

[late moth]

clam lore

[fierce pagoda]

I saw dark souls being mentiones

[late moth]

dark souls is being mentioned, yes

[fierce pagoda]

Are you saying that Cal lore is similar to Ds loreå

[late moth]

si

a little too similar in some areas

[fierce pagoda]

I domt know enough about ds to see it

Dors Ds have its own abyss

I think i remember a DS game having a dlc named something something abyss

[late moth]

my main complaint is that alot of people will immediately shoot down this idea that i have while also knowing nothing about ds lore, which is just kind of juvenile

[late moth]

yes

[fierce pagoda]

And that players had to spend a week trying to fins the content

[late moth]

it took about a day

it was a strange but interesting way to introduce new content

[fierce pagoda]

I see, well i cant really disagree or sgree since as you said i have no idea about ds lore

[late moth]

dw i wasnt refferring to you

or anyone in particular

[fierce pagoda]

Hell yeahs

[late moth]

its just a general thought process that i see alot

[fierce pagoda]

Can uou tell me one thing

Thats really similar

[late moth]

gladly

im gonna be honest i dont even know how to attack this dish lol

theres definitely alot to be unpacked here

[crimson finch]

Waz going on here

[fierce pagoda]

Are ther any pararrels to the dragons and how they were sll powerful but now all dead

[fierce pagoda]

Clam lore is similar to DS lore

And were gonnna get examples

[crimson finch]

DS?

[pliant ruin]

calamity lore is similar to

[fierce pagoda]

Darl spils

[pliant ruin]

idk

[fierce pagoda]

Dark souls

[crimson finch]

Oh ok

[fierce pagoda]

Damn

[late moth]

basically the main culprit with why i think this is because in new calamity lore theres a great mass killing of dragons while in dark souls it tells essentially the same exact story, granted some characters are vastly different to their counterparts but the main premise is similar and this was not a concept in old lore to begin with

[pliant ruin]

i'm too gay and too tired to contribute meaningfully

rn

[fierce pagoda]

Why does being gay stop you🤣🤣

[late moth]

dragons and all this jizzaz in the new lore was pretty much absent iirc from the old lore and suddenly theres this new rewrite that is, while different still pretty similar to the main storyline of DS

[pliant ruin]

im too gay to say anything that isnt gay

[late moth]

legion of people rising against dragons, guy that dragons trusted betrays them in sake of immortality

[crimson finch]

Cheesed Burger

[late moth]

i.e the story of seath the scaleless

[fierce pagoda]

I see, is this like just and observation or a critique of Cal lore

[late moth]

both

[pliant ruin]

I mean tbf

xeroc

probably didn't betray them lol

[late moth]

isnt that like

what xeroc did

[pliant ruin]

no

we don't know the actual context behind it

[late moth]

betray zeratros in favor of becoming a god

[pliant ruin]

the only person who says

[crimson finch]

Pretty sure it was a mercy kill

[pliant ruin]

he betrayed them

is yharim

who

you know

[fierce pagoda]

Xeroc was a bit silly that day, but we dont know why he was silly

[pliant ruin]

is yharim

[viral dagger]

good moooorning

[crimson finch]

Biased as hell

[pliant ruin]

its entirely possible

and if anything

likely

[scenic olive]

Another victim of Yharim Brainwash

[pliant ruin]

that zeratros let xeroc kill him

[crimson finch]

[fierce pagoda]

Morning?! Where do you live

[pliant ruin]

idk the actual narrative themes of dark souls

[viral dagger]

japan...

[pliant ruin]

but i think its important to reflect that 2 stories can have the same basic premise

while still being vastly different due to thematic differences

like

[late moth]

again im just going off what ive read in the calamity mod/calamity mod wiki and what ive also read off the dark souls wiki/playthrough

[pliant ruin]

again

[fierce pagoda]

Sleepyhead

[viral dagger]

i jest

[pliant ruin]

i don't know what's going on in dark souls lore

and i'm not gonna disagree or agree w the notion it's the same general basic story

but

calamity lore is mostly regarding the themes of

[viral dagger]

engage in a small amount of trickery

[fierce pagoda]

You got me there

[pliant ruin]

your origin dosen't define who you are a person, you're not born good or bad because of a specific background or species, your actions are what define that

[viral dagger]

anyway there are 2 options for how xeroc did the thing

either zeratros told him or he didnt

i think that he learned the ritual from his monk status from when the dragons originally got their auric souls

[fierce pagoda]

Maybe the concept of Dragons doing dragon shit, but then something causes them to go extinxt is just a cool as premise?!? Have you guys considered that??

[viral dagger]

then he used the ritual on zeratros at the aeire and took his soul

[late moth]

my main thing is i really only interpret this as what yharim is telling the player, because as far as i know theres nothing pointing to xeroc handing out a mercy kill or anything like that

[pliant ruin]

Don't trust anything Yharim says too much

[calm patio]

[pliant ruin]

specially when the topic is Dragons or Gods

[fierce pagoda]

Waiter waiter! More extinct dragon stories please!!

[late moth]

LOL

[calm patio]

the point what yharim is doing to you that "all gods = bad"

[pliant ruin]

Calamity lore in-game right now suffers a good bit from the implementation of it

[pliant ruin]

The only real sources of it are

yharim

bestiary

draedon

draedon on one hand is a very good implementation that i like alot and is probs the general quality standards for future lore

but

[late moth]

i mean i guess but then why implement this idea of not being able to trust what yharim tells you if theres nobody else to conflict the story he gives

[pliant ruin]

not only r lore items themselves a wacky thing

but

[pliant ruin]

That's not intentional

the mod is just unfinished

[late moth]

i can get down with lore rennovation but the implementation is just kind of wack

[pliant ruin]

yeah i agree

[pliant ruin]

Since the ONLY characters that act as a source of lore

r draedon and yharim

and draedon dosen't actively indicate to you or give you any reason to think yeah man yharims a manipulative bitch hes lyin to you

most ppl just

[viral dagger]

they need to make the dialogue options for permafrost and calamitas give more lore

[pliant ruin]

have no real reason to doubt it

but again this si just

[fierce pagoda]

How does Yharim even contact us, are we like in a discord call with him and he enters once a while to tell us about the boss we just killed

[pliant ruin]

mods unfinished moment

lore implementation isn't good rn

but thats cuz

[cosmic zenith]

Because there will be people to conflict the story he gives :p

[pliant ruin]

mod unfinished moment

[viral dagger]

hes kinda telepathic ig

[fierce pagoda]

Lucky guy wish i was telepathic

[pliant ruin]

From what i'm gathering here calamity's basic premise almost seems like a twist on dark souls's basic premise if anything

[cosmic zenith]

It's incredibly dubious rn, which is why we'll rework the presentation in the future

[pliant ruin]

Like

It's the same general story of

[crimson finch]

Yharim blows bubbles, whispers into them, then sends them down to you

[pliant ruin]

people start killing dragons and ascending to power

[viral dagger]

you are, thats why the player can grab items without their sprite touching them

[fierce pagoda]

Holy shit thats huge

[pliant ruin]

but this time the people killing the dragons aren't actually the villainous force entirely
nor are the dragons really

[late moth]

speaking of draedon i noticed this as well but this is just kind of coming back to my original point of dark souls lore bits being chopped up and sprinkled about
draedons tale is also weirdly similar to seath the scaleless' tale i wouldnt say theyre the exact same but i mean personally i havent heard such a specific premise anywhere else

[fierce pagoda]

Why have i never thought of that!?

[pliant ruin]

I mean

[viral dagger]

why isnt enchanting or exhuming mentioned anywhere in the lore its such a major part of calamitas

[pliant ruin]

Draedon talk is just

verbose

alot of characters do that

it's a common way to make a character seem intelligent and calculating whilst also making them seem stoic or emotionless

[rotund shore]

yharim has a thesaurus open while writing lore items, while draedon IS a thesaurus

[late moth]

i dunno

[viral dagger]

i dont think draedon is sapient

consious, sure

but he doesnt think like a human

[late moth]

i wouldnt go as far as to say the lores are completely identical im just not a fan of how incredibly similar they are

[crimson finch]

Yeah he’s a robot not a monkey

[late moth]

for the bits that are similar

[viral dagger]

same writer moment

[pliant ruin]

like this thing speaks in verbose also

[late moth]

no?

[fierce pagoda]

What if like, while zeratros was dying he was like "xerox bro look, im fucking dying here, and uhh well there are some threats that need to be taken care of which i cant, since im dying n all, so take my soul and become all powerful and take care of these threats for me my G"

[late moth]

NOT the same writer lol

silly goose

[pliant ruin]

Tbh i really don't care if there's similar ideas

[fierce pagoda]

And Xeroc was like hell yeah omnomnomnom

[pliant ruin]

as long as the thematics are different

[scenic olive]

Tyrian, Otonilou, Silva watching Yharim after he massacred all the evil gods : "well thats surprising you wouldnt think to come after us right?? rightt???"
Yharim :

[pliant ruin]

I said this before

[viral dagger]

uhh fuck draedon make a witty comeback for me

[pliant ruin]

you can have two stories about a shark eating a sailor

[cosmic zenith]

Why would it be that important to the lore?

[pliant ruin]

One can be a horror movie

[cosmic zenith]

It's a major part of her as an NPC allied with you

[fierce pagoda]

But the xeroc forgot to youknow stop all yhe lther dragonsouls from being sucked up

[pliant ruin]

The other can be a fuckin. Comedy

[viral dagger]

id think it would be important that calamitas can imbue items with magic

[crimson finch]

Yharim would literally kill the God of Happiness and Peace

[graceful otter]

you should read the rocks tooltip

[viral dagger]

like for the crusade or something

[pliant ruin]

there's alot of active people in chat right now

this is my chance

hey

[viral dagger]

hi

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-homura-mahou-shoujo-dumb-wife-gif-14772042368545078379

did you know both of the characters at focus on this gif could single handedly defeat the entire cast of calamity

at once

[viral dagger]

power scaling moment

[late moth]

how does this allude to anything like

[rotund shore]

could they beat goku
ill stop talking

[late moth]

at all

[fierce pagoda]

Goku victims

[pliant ruin]

yes

they could

[cosmic zenith]

Draedon could produce sufficiently powerful items on a much larger scale, without the dangerous effects of SCal's magic

[late moth]

its just a vague string of text that will probably make sense in later updates

[crimson finch]

Most verses get solod by Pokémon

[pliant ruin]

I'm not even a powerscaling i just think telling people these 2 little gays can defeat the entire calamity universe is funny

[graceful otter]

read the last two lines and think of what xeroc had JUST experienced

[pliant ruin]

and the actual explanation is even funnier

[cosmic zenith]

Does that really tell you nothing?

[pliant ruin]

like

ok

do you see the pink haired girl

ok so you know god
like, god. not "god" as in the calamity definition or the one that most media uses of like a really powerful ancient being

[late moth]

i mean

[pliant ruin]

like. do you know God.

[late moth]

still nothing

[calm patio]

??

it does mean something lol

[viral dagger]

draedon left his service before calamitas, id think that yharim had calamitas imbue some things to test it

maybe not though

[pliant ruin]

you see that pink haired girl? Yeah. she's God. Capital G. God.

[late moth]

im not saying it doesnt mean anything im just saying i cant really make a connection

[fierce pagoda]

What about that actually, Miracle matter weapons are just straight up better than exhumed weapons, they deal the same amount of damage without all the self damage buisness. Is that gonna stay the same

[cosmic zenith]

The weapons Draedon had supplied the army with were still available to the Yharmy

[pliant ruin]

Anyways you see the black haired girl

[solar wharf]

is she satan

[cosmic zenith]

Probably not?

[viral dagger]

play character is the only one with miracle matter

[pliant ruin]

How did you guess

[solar wharf]

shes black

[pliant ruin]

yeah she's satan

[solar wharf]

I MEAN BLACK

HAIRED

[pliant ruin]

like

you know the devil

yeah

[cosmic zenith]

That's a matter of balance

[graceful otter]

a giant behemoth suddenly comes into this world and the greatest warriors who have already reached their utter potential could not beat it. and you have no idea if another is coming

[late moth]

also i can understand the point that is being made here just

[viral dagger]

spoilers for madoka magika, a show that came out in 2011

[late moth]

idk i think its one of those things where you would get it if you knew ds lore

its pretty hard to articulate into a thought i must say

[pliant ruin]

well yeah those are pretty big spoilers aren't they

[late moth]

as some things just are

[pliant ruin]

but i mean

[fierce pagoda]

Calamiry enchanted exo weapons are just unfair, you cant even enchant exhumed weapons

[pliant ruin]

i didn't think anyone here would be interested so

i mean i wish people were because it's the best show ever but what can ya do

[late moth]

which is fair

[fierce pagoda]

You get both miracle matter power + Scal magic power all in one

[viral dagger]

you cant???

[late moth]

im stupid

[fierce pagoda]

Nope

[viral dagger]

holy shit i never even realized

[late moth]

did not say which is fair thats a government psyop

[cosmic zenith]

Exhume is already an Enchantment

[late moth]

i thought this was obvious

[viral dagger]

what is the lore for sepulcher

just a construction?

[pliant ruin]

funny bone worm lol

[fierce pagoda]

Oblatory subsuming vortex, most powerful non dev mage weapon

[solar wharf]

wasnt it said that it resembles an auric dragon or something?

[late moth]

"why cant i reforge my warding ankh shield and make it a menacing warding ankh shield"

[solar wharf]

or did i gaslight myself to hearing that

[pliant ruin]

if auric dragons look like that i'm scared

[cosmic zenith]

Yes, it's a necromantic construct
You can just read its Bestiary entry for the exact lore

[viral dagger]

the metastasis description says that it could be what DoG could look like in the future, thats why im asking

[solar wharf]

thank you vetrasyl, i dont know what we would do without you

[cosmic zenith]

Not really

[viral dagger]

Vetrasyl me GOAT

[fierce pagoda]

I was thinking more from a balancing point of view, exhumed and miracle are equal, but miracle gets the edge since tvey can still be enchanted

[graceful otter]

check the 7th pin of this channel

[cosmic zenith]

That's just a common interpretation error
The way it's worded doesn't help it

[fierce pagoda]

While exhumed weapons are stuck in the state they sre left in

[viral dagger]

alr

[viral dagger]

LOL

[graceful otter]

exhumed weapons are meant to be stronger than average because theyre enchanted weapons

[viral dagger]

i thought so i forgor the bestiary

[pliant ruin]

according to the bestiary cannoball jellyfish were used as cannonballs by marine militia

i think that's pretty funny

[graceful otter]

why shoot ball when shoot jellyfish

[viral dagger]

is that why rancor sucks so much ass?

[fierce pagoda]

Lmao

[pliant ruin]

go my jellyfish

[viral dagger]

i feel robbed that we cant do that ingame

[pliant ruin]

also laserfish are draedon robots there's that

[graceful otter]

it doesnt suck ass

[viral dagger]

it takes half my mana before the laser even happens

[graceful otter]

tbh it being the worst of the exhumes is fine since its also the easiest to avoid

[fierce pagoda]

Do you think jellyfish are jelly of slimes cuz they are actually gelly

[graceful otter]

just use a rail arena and rancor has literally no downside

[fierce pagoda]

Just use that mana burn accessory

[solar wharf]

chaos stone is such a nice item isnt it?

[viral dagger]

rancor should have been good im sad

oh shit i forgot about chaos stone

[solar wharf]

by the time u get rancor, chaos stone actually deals no damage

[fierce pagoda]

In the end though id still rather use oblatory subsuming vortex

Very good damage, homing, good mana usage

Rancor almost requires you to sacricice an accesorys lot for it

[viral dagger]

2 actually, youneed that automatic mana pot

that can just be done with stuff you would have had anyway though

[fierce pagoda]

Oh yeah right, but i use that anyways so

I didnt really count as sacrificing a slot

But in the end its all up to preferenve

[pliant ruin]

Also according to the bestiary

[viral dagger]

i wonder what the lore reason is for the accessory slot limit

[fierce pagoda]

They are viable all the same

[graceful otter]

chaos stone doesnt actually make rancor perform much better

[pliant ruin]

The abyss food chain is based on oarfish eggs

Atleast mostly

[viral dagger]

wrong, ima firin' mah laser

[pliant ruin]

"Oarfish are known for laying thousands or even millions of eggs in astonishingly quick gestation cycles. These eggs are the most abundant source of food in the Abyss, being part of the reason even the smallest and least threatening creatures can live in the otherwise near inhospitable depths of the sea."

[fierce pagoda]

What if i just stole all the oarfish eggså

[viral dagger]

eww, i appreciate the worldbuilding but

[fierce pagoda]

What would the dumb abyss animals do then

[pliant ruin]

Wait why ew

egg tasty

[viral dagger]

caviar is the most overrated shit out there bro