#lore-discussion
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Is fandom wiki just now like, the ONLY calamity au?
Any other uhh major ones?
What the fuck
I'm not reading all of that but also from what i've read it's really funny how it feels like actually everything revolves around a auric soul of some sort
like hm yes. auric soul of the Green Plague
Goozma omnipotent real
where does green demon fit into the lore
Hello c:
In the old lore, was Yharim's mother ever given a name?
Nope
yharim's mom is seto kaiba
Darn
Wouldnt it be funny if Yharim was a clone
The real Yharim was a great figure in the draconic era
they just cloned that and get Yharim

how would this affect calamity lore economy (quote from dryad)
I already know

hmm
how well far do you think you could go if you were isekai'd to the world of calamity as terrarian
i think i wouldnt even made it to eoc
id die to zombies first

Does respawning exist or nah?
If so than well I doubt most people would get very far
Time to go mining! proceeds to accidentally die to a random trap in the dumbest way possible
do you mean, i in my current body were the terrarian, or i took over the body of my terrarian?
i assume you took the body of terrarian
I think they meant from the start of the game, so you wouldn't have endgame gear or anything, at least
i'd win
well one of my terrarians is more akin to a mass hallucination than a traditional living thing
hmm
the terrarian was never real
so i arguably might cease to exist immediately depending on how that is interpreted
it's all just mass hysteria
yharim needed a successor so he hallucinated one and everyone else followed along
okay lets assume your current body as terrarian
another terrarian of mine isn't a mass hallucination... but i also don't think i would have the knowledge of how to use any of the magic she knows so i would probabled get swallowed by a blue slime
current body i get swallowed by a green slime fr
i'm fragile as hell
like a giant husky dog
you could throw me at an enemy and i'd cut them by shattering like glass
maybe a small baby elephant
does the terrarian even know how to use magic properly
they use magic tools to perform any spells
idk they just use book
wands
shit n stuff
that's what i'm sa
mine does
yippee
though one of her types of magic isn't a conscious thing
it's an ability similar to cal kestis' from jedi fallen order and survivor
just with a few different quirks
does draedon believe in alchemy
i mean
i don't think it's a matter of believing, is it?
when potions exist
or do you mean turning different metals into gold
isn't alchemy just chemistry before we invented the scientific method
man i forgot what yharim's sword looks like
whats engraved on the sword
no clue
thank you very much
now i can write my biome blade fanfic with more accuracy
i mean uh
who said that 🤨
dw you're in the area of this server with the highest literacy rate
it's not that odd
if it's two on one, always bet on DoG to third-party
when i get the motivation i will finally get around to properly planning out my OC's story
nuh uh
i need to bash my head against the wall that is pre-golem mdeath cultist
got them down to 1.9% 
what is the lore reason you are hurting yourself like that
if i do it i can smile again
i can see the sun and embrace its warm glow
wait a minute how do i even describe this fucking thing with words
A huge ass slab of stone
no way the godseeker is dripped out in auric armour and carrying around a stone slab for a sword
what a bum
yharim the type of guy to pull out the excalibur then use the rock as a weapon
roxcalibur moment
In old lore it was made from the stone thrones of some evil jungle tyrants or something
Which goes hard but there is no evil jungle tyrants in new lore
when i saw the image i had an idea
it is gone now
you're corruption gods
it literally will not come back to me why is the world so cruel
alright then uhh...
He shattered the temples of gods and turned the rubble into a sword with his auric whatever as a symbol of crushing the gods
or something
this sure has been a tale of a
Tale of a Cruel World?????
Good enough
The idea of him collecting marble and granite from various temples and turning it into a huge plate is funny
lore channel i've only slept 3 hours today and i'm writing two fanfics at the same time because i can't decide on a proper origin for the biome blade
did the terrarian find it or did they make it?
both
it came to them in a dream
i have a cheat code for this kind of thing with my OC
they can witness glimpses of an objects memories by touching it
allowing them to learn cool shit and recipes and stuff
"My Lord what are you doing?"
"I'm gonna make my sword out of this."
"Those are just rocks."
"It will be my sword."
and magic
rock and stone
rocks from the aerie, maybe?
Yharim is a drg player
that could be interesting
the same rock that xeroc carved
strong enough to last the couple hundred years he was around for without weathering
aerialite ore?
sounds like
the
dragon aerie
aerialite gear is the same tier as auric
when aerialite is disenchanted or whatever
i like this idea
and it becomes breakable
it actually goes from auric to some random ass metal
which is why it isn't gold anymore
my new headcanon 100%
bootleg auric
definitely makes complete sense
bruh

the sword looks like it has something to do with heat, so perhaps it is from yharon's 'home' of sorts on the aerie
and it looks so broken because his home was destroyed in fovos' attacks
and it is being held together by some sort of power
Held together by Draconic energy
tree pun of some sort
braelor uses pre-hm weapon fr

he's like that
the braxe
fuck it, why not
i love using silly names and playing them straight
what about yharim's sword then
braex
Yhaxcalibur
Hello lore droplets
awesome
semi-related
is aerialite ore related to the sky civilization
probably? we know very little of the sky civilisation right now
i am limited by publicly released lore
rahhhhh
does that make two bot links in less than 48 hours
dev statements are the bane of my existence
there's always one out there i haven't read yet to crush my dreams
rookie numbers
meh, dev statements are dubiously canon anyway
that varies a lot
some stuff won't change massively from what they say
well yeah
so i still get sad when it conflicts with an idea i have
huh
but it's still subject to change until it makes it into the mod itself
firstly I'd need the specific statement from the old lore doc that said that Yharim caused an earthquake like that
so that I can make a more accurate guess
my well of optimism only goes so deep
what do you mean table fist
Yharim slammed a table with his fist, broke his arm and caused an earthquake in old lore
nuclear pasta
well it probably broke the table too
does someone have the old lore doc
i wish i did
that'd be a great way to de-stress
just binge reading old lore nonsense
i'm gonna bookmark them
i think you're the anonymous chipmunk
and the anonymous skunk
prolly
and killed a few people too
ooh we've got an anonymous camel now too
so that's where mile-long DoG came from
huh
A glorious day.
Deeds of valor of this caliber are enshrined in legend. Of this age, only the Witch, Braelor and myself can compare.
providence's lore item implies braelor killed a god
just because he's allied with silva doesn't mean he likes all gods
it could also just mean he has done something equally outstanding
it can be interpreted in two ways methinks
either: just being a mortal thats extremely strong
or
did something heroic worthy for yharim
like killing a god
either interpretation works and i dont think we will get an answer till distortion (when we get braelor) or statis
or maybe even amidias dialogue
it could also be that few people know about statis
so none of his deeds are "enshrined in legend" or anything similar
we really don't know
or maybe he hasnt done as much
tbf my internal image of statis is that of a very chill person who doesn't really go out of his way to do something unprovoked
I can't find the line of Yharim's table punch
nor could i
nvm found it in yhardoc
" Soon after Yharim’s wounds were mostly healed, he went to the leaders of the jungle, who presumably also lived in the Jungle Temple. There’s a bit of conflicting information from here, either Yharim simply killed everyone there, or out of pure rage he slammed his arm down so hard that it killed everyone in the room, it broke his arm, and Permafrost heard it all the way from the Ice Biome. Personally, I’m a fan of the second one for a few reasons but whichever suits your fancy. Either way, the jungle leaders are now dead, but for Yharim this wasn’t enough. He decided to take his anger and hatred out on the rest of the world."
won't be easy to calculate
I guess I could use the unofficial version that Reb made that was adapted for new lore to help myself, I remember that one specified more stuff
it's also mentioned in the CAL doc
"Soon after Yharim had mostly recovered, he went to the leaders of the jungle. There’s a bit of conflicting information from here: either Yharim simply slaughtered everybody in the room, or in pure rage he slammed his arm down so hard that it killed everyone in the room, breaking his arm and creating such a loud noise that Permafrost heard it all the way from the Ice Biome. Believe what you wish to believe. Either way, the jungle leaders were now dead. But for Yharim, this wasn’t enough to satisfy him—he decided to take his anger and hatred out on the rest of the world, as well."
basically the same thing
i had only meant to imply that braelor broke the biome blade while fighting yharim
now im just writing out the whole fight
i cannot write fight scenes in any sort of action-y way
me neither but you gotta do what you gotta do to keep the story going
i have one style of writing fight scenes and i cannot do anything else
i'm basically just writing what each person is thinking while the fight happens in the background
i use dialogue less often than is typical i think
same with direct thoughts
i write almost entirely third person
even when people and their thoughts are involved
#lore-discussion message this is the one I was referring to earlier
I'll go eat now
still use a decent bit of dialogue obviously
but not much
really cool little scene
Yeah
May have to calculate this as a sound feat rather than an earthquake feat though
Hey omini im looking at the fandom lore rn, did you know there was so much????
have fun figuring out how far the tundra is from the jungle
Ye
at least three i think
Its like an entire calamity au
I'll just use a standard size for a continent considering the version Reb made for that feat
does anyone have any ideas for how big the wall of flesh might actually be?
in terms of width, not necessarily height
my first image is that it stretches from all across the horizon, but that seems overblown considering cal's scaling and just weird
personally headcanon it as being so big it just stretches past your vision
since if the underworld goes around the whole planet then wof would literally have no end
it looks like a false edge of the underworld when asleep
wdym "when asleep"?
well when you summon it the status message says "wall of flesh has awoken" or something
so i imagine it';s jsut sleeping in the underworld until you come along
oooh
that could be very interesting
also how well-known do you think yharim's little scuffle with the gay couple a year before our journey was?
nobody else mentions it, so probably not that known
regarding this
i imagine the underworld to be maze-like
with walls
tbf npc dialogue needs to be rewritten still
but the spaces are still enourmous so there is plenty of room for cities to grow in
so the wall of flesh looks like one of the underworld's walls, until it wakes up and you realize there's more behind it
it'd be kind of cool if wof was used to block off and protect azafure during the war ngl
given that idea
but tbf it would be way too risky to have it destroyed by an opposing force
not that it matters after we come along
almost done
done basically
Yharim Punches A Table And Shakes A Continent [OLD LORE OUTDATED FEAT]
We will assume an average size for a continent as the aoe of this feat.
Average continent surface area: 21141571,42857142857 km2, or 21141571428571,43 m2
Radius of a circle with this surface area: 2594,142 km
Earthquake Method
Assumed Magnitude at Distance: 4 [Noticeable shaking of indoor objects and rattling noises. Felt by most people in the affected area. Slightly felt outside. Generally causes zero to minimal damage. Moderate to significant damage is very unlikely. Some objects may fall off shelves or be knocked over.]
Formula to find Magnitude at Origin: 4 + 6.399 + 1.66 x log(10) ((2594,142/110) x ((2 x π)/360)) = 11,081914432363636363636363636364
Formula to find energy: 10^(1,5 x 11,081914432363636363636363636364 + 4,8) = 2647717516143194380390,2205356378 Joules, or 632,8196740304072 Gigatons Large Island Level+
Sound Method
Assumed Decibels of the fist: 194,09 dB (average decibel count of a shockwave, when sound begins to distort basically)
Conversion to W/m2: 10^((194,09/10)-12) = 25644840,365177173060162354385701 Watts/m2
Full energy: 21141571428571,43 x 25644840,365177173060162354385701 = 657657837355420,48291471562870096 Watts (Joules/second), or 157,184 Kilotons Large Town Level
not really that big of a feat honestly, if it was kept in Calamity it would hardly change anything about the scaling since it would only affect Yharim (and the very few characters above him), and even then I'm not sure if the earthquake method would be accurate to use here
prolly
screen shaking wasn't actually from astral meteor, yharim was just gamer raging and threw his controller at a wall
with enough force to create a magnitude 4 earthquake
omni
What
calculate the power of yharims current punch with the jungle lab
Not sure if we have enough to do that
wdym
we don't know how strong the lab walls are do we?
oh yeah just iron and stone
We know it destroyed a good portion of Draedon's lab, but we don't know the size of the lab that was destroyed (we could go with one of the ingame labs ig), how much of it, what materials, and yeah, there's a lot of stuff that is unknown
the uhh
jungle lab?
Besides I don't think it would change much of the scale 

Ig

Something about this research in particular incensed the Godseeker. Upon witnessing my progress, he flew into a rage. He blasted out a sizable chunk of the genomic laboratory and intentionally allowed my first, unfinished specimen to escape.
yholerim
I will eat chips.
what
Chips.
why did u
me
Nvm
Dirty
Do we know how he blasted this hole in the lab, or did he just...punch it really hard
he can punch very hard
He used his yhermes christal
Falcon punch
he hit a table and the wall exploded out of respect
He just punched it really hard.
Understandable
I like this response the most
Yeah as noob said, the jungle lab
is about 20-25 blocks in diameter
so about a 60-75 foot wide crater from a single hit
Thought given the fact that he's grown stronger since then, had his armor modified with exotech, and was mostly just trying to make a point with the jungle lab
He can absolutely do better than that
Alr
Can't calc that rn since I'm not home
This bus ride SUCKED
okay five pebbles
baki style imagination
i like it
I guess I could do it on phone
Later though
I could do some of it with my mind tbh though
wat the heck space in lore disc
Ye lol
Yharim thinks he’s that guy
you absolutely are, king
sorry garbo unlike you i actually have something to do irl
sorry :(
wtf hi space
yo
very wack
it's a greta game
what i've played of it has been very fun
so i definitely think i'll get around to finishing it off
i don't have much to do for the next 2 and a bit months so i imagine i'll get through it
Slime God absolutely lobotomizes Goku, Goku stands no chance, he’ll cry in fear when he sees Slime God approaching.
Whar
It’s true cause I said so 
actually no that sounds like a spoiled brat line
It’s true because Slime God is cool
Yeah to spare them 
Slime god is a merciful creature
He doesn’t wanna subject goku to his true power
So he leaves before he gets angry
except yharim but we hate yharim
"I have no enemies."

Yeah
Slime God just mildly dislikes Yharim, everyone else he’s fine with
Also I headcanon SG’s Revengence Adrenaline Item is either a pack of Protein/Vitamin gummies or just some gummies.
Or edibles

it looks like a mineral bar to me
I see it like a little blue container that has some yummy fruit flavored gummies inside that are nutrient-rich, which is why it buffs adrenaline
lore discussion
Canon
flintstones vitamin gummies are contained within that item
time to calc this since I'm home and I fonron to attempt it without a calculator
I'll average it down to 67,5 ft wide crater since I don't wanna make lower and higher end for this
giving us roughly 20,6 (20,574) meters wide crater
I'll just calculate it as a hemisphere
so 10,287 meters radius, the formula to get the volume via radius is (2/3) x π x 10,287^3 = 2279,94742891213468100118 cubic meters
I'll just go with Iron and Stone values as it mentions here
the amount of iron is only 4% of the amount of stone in comparison so lemme do a calc rq
the plague draedon made is like the rot but green and with a functioning failsafe
volume of iron: 91,197897156485 m3
volume of stone: 2188,74953175564968100118 m3
convert to cubic centimeters since I have destruction values in cm3 instead of m3 (so to make things easier for me)
iron: 91197897,156485 cm3
stone: 2188749531,75564968100118 cm3
I could just go with 3 values for fragmentation, violent fragmentation and pulverization but I'm feeling lazy rn so I'll just do violent fragmentation since it's the middle one
violent fragmentation value for stone (average): 69 J/cc
viofrag value for iron: 42,43 J/cc
stone value: 69 x 2188749531,75564968100118 = 151023717691,13982798908142 Joules
iron value: 42,43 x 91197897,156485 = 3869526776,34965855 Joules
total value: 3869526776,34965855 + 151023717691,13982798908142 = 154893244467,48948653908142 Joules, or 37,02 tnt tons City Block Level for powerscaling
there you go, value for not-prime-conditions yharim that was notably holding back :3
Omni math is back
is shadowspec gear canon?
damn they really gonna take the higherst tier of loot and say nah its not real
It never was supposed to be
It's all dev items
That can't fit into lore reasonably
and even then it's not like we're gonna be fighting yharim with them, when he's added the dev items are gonna be tier shifted to post-yharim
dev items are only designed for after you beat the mod
me destroying a continent with universe splitter
Demonshade armor will be reworked and retiered to just post scal, it will require ashes of annihilation
it will be an alt for upcoming exo armor
that will be post exos
ashes of cal's brothers, sepulchers and souls seekers
bro we cant just have one, canon, all-class, endgame armor huh
well exo and demonshade will be all classes
exo will be multiclass and will be focused on different playstyles, while demonshade will have 3 helmets, and each helmets will have stuff for 2 classes at once
helmet for melee + tmelee, ranger and rogue, mage and summoner
demonshade and exo being over auric makes no sense bc yharim uses auric, but ig it will be tier shifted to compensate
unless auric and auric tesla are two different things
well yharim's auric has exo technology
and he can use auric better
because of his attunement to yharon
well we killed yharon so that should break that shit
we didn't kill him permanently
his soul is still there, he just needs a lot of time to come back
surely killing him once would break the attunement
like yharim even said that yharon had bade him farewell
attunement will be broken if we destroyed his soul
soul fragments dont imply that?
because if attunement was broken, yharim would be fried alive in his armor
he will be auric rejected
maybe hes just bult different
because by the time yharon comes back, yharim will be dead
either from terrarian or old age
so Auric armor is gonna get out tiered immediately?
well actually its not that different from silva and god slayer armor
not really
auric is more classic traditional 5 helmets armor
It probbaly will be slightly weaker than exo and demonshade but its still endgame'
no
oh so they are gonna be like the reaver armor
it will be a choice between all rounder, specialised stuff and multi class glass cannon
while Auric is gonna be for cool and normal people
cant wait to play around with exo armor tbh
wont demonshade armor get three helmets
yes throudon mentioned that
auric is more traditional armor with 5 helmets
exo is "make your armor" set that generally leans towards tanky-ness and is multiclass
demonshade is kinda like midpoint between 2, but generally it will lean towards being a glass cannon
if im not mistaken
I see
banger armors
gonna take 3 years or more till we see them though
i think in the future those 2 wont be immediately outclassed due to distortion
you'll explore it using those
You think so? that's sounds nice instead of having them be relevant for 1 boss fight then being used to make Auric
all of buffed moon content will be rethemed and moved to distortion, buffed moons will die
so you'll get resources by exploring distortion
fighting its enemies, getting materials
distortion will also have braelor so theres that too
cosmilite ore no way
its planned to be liquid
cosmilite might be a liquid in the distortion
the US finding another dimension has a liquid they can exploit for profit
Yeah, 3 armor sets without a definitive "strongest"
hi Cei
i really like it when there isnt a strongest option but that some are more effective depending on your playstyle
yeah its pretty epic
i love player choice!!!!
btw lore droplets its time to repost
fancy weavor
sword mandibles 
new pfp colon three
Who's the fatty
melee
exo tank mode
Hunchback of Notre dom looking ass
what other class would be built like that
exo has no class specific stuff
oh shit fr?
ye
my fault og
are these all exo armor or just the 4th one
completely all class
they're all the same armor set
just different modes
they're different modes of exo armor
there's default one (on the left), then overheat (2 versions), and tank
for base form, you yourself can tweak its stats and turn it into whatever you want
overheat and tank can't get their stats tweaked, they're separate modes with their own gimmick
overheat is """""glass cannon""""""", that, iirc, will turn your defence into pure damage. So its still leans towards being a tank but with fun additional stuff
Tank is just a tank i think
I am expecting the odds of this being balanced on launch to be in the negatives
either undertuned or absurdly overtuned
but it wont find the happy medium
its probably going to be a balance hell but who cares if its fun
i'd like to think that the terrarian designs the exo armours after being inspired by draedon's mechs
obviously draedon invented the arsenal armours back during the crusdae
Master chef
they're more so inspired by exo theme in general
but i don't really see a reason for why he would invent a new set of armour if he was going it alone
like, the tanky armor looks like ares, while tanky exo mech is thanatos
they're just inspired by exo aesthetics
not specifically exo mechs
technically speaking the tanky one is artimis and apollo
how so?
i think thanatos is the tankies, its just very vulnerable when the vents are open, and its a worm so
most health + most difficult to multihit
artemis and apollo are the ultimate
in pissing me off when i try to fight true melee
well i meant like from pure defense and damage resistance stuff
you cant damage thanatos properly when its vents are closed
so like why did draedon make thanatos capable of shooting lasers if shooting lasers is the only way thanatos can die
it is?
like thats what draedon had in mind while making him
it does not matter
whether he shoots or not
its just gameplay
yes
the canon way he actually dies
is overheating
not shooting the laser
so him moving
overheats it
already
they just made it lasers because thats easier to code and balance compared to him just overheating every 10 seconds
Thanatos is cool cause it’s a worm
bro really said they were the perfect machines and then his machine cooked itself like a poorly built pc
So it can never overheat
i meant as in, it overheating causes it to open up its armor, which in turn causes its death due to us
oh alr
i think it was something like he uses his overheat to make lasers somehow but not sure
oh so draedon fucked up the thermodynamics, got it
that sounds pretty silly but idk if its the case
that's ares, no?
even if apollo and artemis were tankier (which they arent, a weakspot doesnt debunk a tank), thanatos would still be the tank because thats his entire design
not soon
years
he will be the last confirmed thing added to the mod
i'd bet i'll graduate from uni before he gets added
2 years + x months, where x is the number of times someone asks when he gets added
every time somebody asks about when the next update comes the devs delete all their code
LMAO
true
"so close, just this line of code"
jimmybob453: when is yhram gonna be added?
"... sorry boys, you know the deal, delete that shit"
Yharim is planned to be like "the ending"
He will be the final boss, so the mod needs to be in a good state when it happens
currently mod has buffed moons which automatically makes it impossible for yharim to be added
gonna be the hardest because i cant harm a real one :((
?
so their direction rn is to improve the mod
what about yharim is real
when its all improved and polished, yharim will be added
yeah the devs want to make yharim the very last (not including superbosses) update, so they intend to finish everything else before that
i'm making the stupidest typos today
mfkers when 1:30 am
foxy is knocking in my door and sucking 15% of my power
bitch
weaver going into phase 2
was talking about popcorn
ah I see
Yharim drives the Cadbury egg car
Yhegg
Yharim yhode yho yhe Yhragon’s Yharie yhin yhe Yhadbury Yhreme Yhegg Yhar
Yharegg
“(Insert Terrarian’s name here), I have miscalculated and made an error, enter into the Pea stat.”
-Draedon
yharim has a yhtroke
Yhall yha Yharambulance
"PrI Prink Prot!" -Providence
Yhrainrot
Slrue
Slits slime slor slou slo SLETURN SLO SLIME
-Slime Slod
📜🔥🔥✍️
lorers
Siah, SiI Sisagree
-Silva, probably
🌊 🪴 🌊
one letter away from the correct statement
huh
what happens if yharim and yharon break up and yharim gets rejected by his own armor
"lorers" is quite different from "insane people"
Holy shit Garbo new pfp
Fire
ok loser
Lorers is quite different than LORELEI [For AWC2023 / A Dance Of Fire & Ice Championship 2023 Finals Tiebreaker]
I do'nt get it help
Yharim was definitely a Minecraft YouTuber
garbo was comparing lorers to another word to describe us
so i rebutted with "insane people" instead, because we are all quite insane
BUT WHAT WORD I DONT v,T
Losers
POHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
im tupid
but thats mean wait
why would he call us losers
thats so mean
Did I cast a spell or something wtf happened after I typed Yhrainrot
does anyone have the official art for the electrical sea goddess
tanks!
when are they adding me to calamity :c
wheres the ME update
calamity update 2.0.5
added cheese
hooray
Who or what started the plague? (pls @ me if you answer so i can see it)
Johnny Dardon
Draedon and technically Yharim, Draedon created it and Yharim released it after (or was it near the end of?) an argument with Draedon when he figured out about it
(Draedon)
"Yo, Yharim look what i made"
"what is it?"
"It's a PLAGUE! isn't it cool?"
"WOW the whole world should see this"
kinda like that?
No, Yharim really disliked the Plague and I think he freaked out
you said he released it
Plague bringer Goliath and Draetalk help explain
Pretty sure it was on accident
oh
or maybe he wasn't thinking about that or didn't know it could spread (it is after all the first time he discovered it)
I know what the plague is, it's diseased nanotechnology
Yharim was outraged by how Draedon enslaved the Queen Bee so they got in a argument with resulted in Yharim releasing it by making a hole in the wall of Draedon's Lab
after this Draedon was kicked out of Yharim's ranks and started working indepedently
probably released a public apology
"im sorry everyone, yharim forced me to do it!!!"
"im like calamitas man, he manipulated me too!!"
Hello lore chat, I am having an argument with a friend about Yharon.
Is he a full dragon? Or a half dragon half Phoenix? Thank you lore chat in advance.
He's a dragon
"Phoenix" is simply a title
Thank you. I knew I was right 
Phoenixes as an actual species, role or group aren't ever mentioned to exist or otherwise have any relevance within the mod's narrative
You're welcome
c:
I think it makes sense as a little more than a title considering there are all sorts of different kinds of dragons (fishrons are dragons) and he has fire attacks and bird features
Dragon fish
Dragon birb
Dragon worms
where actual scally dragon

What are feathered dragons called
You have fish pig like dragons
Fishrons
wyverns
then the serpentine dragon
Wyrm
Wait wyverns have feather?
maybe
Auric dragons seem to be their own classification as is
and tbh
I wouldn't be surprised if dragons just have feathers in calamity
you can classify them in two ways
-
Dragons (with auric souls) and Dragon Offshoots
-
Auric Dragons and non-auric Dragons
or some fucked up in-between if you mix both
yharon has feathers i'm pretty sure
Yharon does
so do the bumblebirbs dragonfollies
But i wouldn't be surprised if just
all dragons r like that
If anything
it'd make sense
Yharon, the only dragon/auric dragon we see
has feathers
Dragonfollies, non-auric dragons/offshoots also have them
i would hesitate to say something like that because dragons don't even have a fucking strictly defined morphology
they're like fish
the only which don't have feathers
are wyrms and fishrons
which you can easily excuse having lost the trait
because they're marine animals
so i just
wouldn't state it as fact
but also would not be surprised in the slightest
if you try to make a phylogenetic tree of fish or dragons you end up getting stuff that aren't either being included
cheese am i using the word correctly
i think u are
me when the big fish is actually a mammal
what du heyl
I disagree. Auric dragons are their own category that involves them having an auric soul. Unless auric souls grant feathers, that doesn't make sense. Additionally, dragon folly has feathers. Instead, Yharon is just a bird dragon, the dragon follies are also bird dragons, the primordial wyrm is a different kind of dragon, and fishrons are another kind of dragon
ok what if wyrms are reptilian dragons and actual dragons are bird dragons
eidolon wyrms have exoskeletons
I think you're missing the point
they're arthropods
This is so fucked up
All the kinds of draconic "offshoots" we see are biologically identical to dragons, because the term dragon has exactly zero to do with biology
In calamity, that is
what does biologically identical mean
well it's the same in real life too
I agree with this actually nvm
Also
Eidolon Wyrms r fucked up but
i don't think they're arthropods
catgirl??!?!!!??
their ''exosqueleton" could be something like armadillos just
mrrp meow meow nya
Alot Worse
to the point they look somewhat insectoid cuz theyre fully covered in it
but tbh
i think they should just get redesigned
every other draconic fellow looks atleast somewhat reptilian
they're due for a redesign true
then wyrms are kjust fish worm
meow!
It means that Yharon is the same as a dragonfolly, and that other auric dragons were the same as the wyverns, wyrms, fishrons, and pigrons
personally i don't really care if some dragons in calamity aren't reptillian since that's the case too irl.
They aren't a single species, they might even not have had a concept of species at all, and instead determined their physical forms through other means, like how elementals do
what if the dragon of gluttony was also a giant dragon shaped slime
Entirely possible
Wdym by that
the last bit i mean
like
that's the case too irl
okay obviously dragons aren't real
I think wyrms and dragonfollies and such are definitely A Species
and i also think they're related
evangelion
but looking at mythological dragons, there are no real consistencies in their morphology
Well fair but i feel like if ur making dragons into a real thing that exists there probs should be some consistency maybe
or maybe not if your goal is specifically for them to not be consistent which i mean fair also but that dosent seem like the case here
i suppose that's fair
Maybe, but we don't know if they are always like that or if they could just have a kid that was a completely different type of dragon
I mean
is there anything implying that though?
I'd imagine it would be mentioned somewhere if a eidolon wyrm can give birth to a fishron
wyrms and dragons are different species with a common ancestor
See i disagree with this also
i don't think dragons are a species
why
much like xbx said
i think they're a group of beings that share the same common element with eachother of having a auric soul - If anything
i mean i just got here so can someone give me a tldr
i think dragons are in the same vein of classification as gods
alr alr i got it
a ''god" isn't a species
hear me out
otonilou's species is illmeran
but she's a god
xeroc's species is human
but he's also a god
that type of stuff
i think dragons are a similar deal
what defines a dragon is if it has an auric soul or not
if anything i feel like
dragons might've not had auric souls and somehow obtained them much like how gods did, turning into dragons
thus they are not dragons
no i think its stated somewhere that dragons are born with auric souls
I don't think it ever is
give me a minute a think yharim said something about this
Well
There's your answer
dragons are born with auric souls
yharim said something about this
i'm sure he did
i'm sure he did.
yeah we could say that "dragons" aren't a species at all but were originally just a term meant for anything that had an auric soul.
And then when those dragons had descendants, since there are a limited number of auric souls, they didn't inherit the souls.
So the situation became that auric dragons had descendants that weren't auric dragons, and a new classification had to be named and the enourmous variety of creatures all got labeled as Draconic Offshoots
here
or just non-auric dragons
My thoughts are basically
Wyrms, Dragonfollies, Fishrons, and whatever Dragons were before ascencion are biologically related creatures
Auric Dragons are said ''Original" Dragons that ascended into a more powerful, mystical form much like how Gods came to be
wyrms, wyverns, follies, and pigrons are stated to be 'impure dragon species'
this would imply that they are the decendents of pure-blooded auric dragons
however they are all different species
auric dragons are pure dragons
Yharim Said This
then towards the end of the draconic era, impure species appear, being the biological decendents of pure dragons, yet they all lack auric souls
yharim is a reliable source here bc he was there when this was happening
he was not
he could and will and has lied
usually hes not a great source of information but he seems to just be providing exposition
no reason for him to lie here
while he might not be lying in this case, he definatley isn't a primary source
I'll be honest i totally think he'd lie about dragons to make them look better idk
bro never met another auric dragon except yharon, because he was born like 600 years after the draconic era ended
Also this is ignoring the fact he literally wasn't there
Like hm yes
Dragons were Pure Blooded beings who were born with an auric soul and offshoots are just descendants without said soul
Also said descendants get stronger the closer they are to their original lineage of the Auric Dragons
all dragons are auric dragons, by definition
that and also we just end up seeing the best
because the weaker ones died forever ago
That's definitely not something that could be used in favour of the idea that Dragons are pure noble powerful beings, given said offshoots are at their strongest when closest to them
and the fact that said offshoots are not deemed as ''pure" becasue they don't have the auric soul, which only true dragons have
I just don't buy it lol
and also i just like the idea of Draconic Offshoots not really being "Descendants" of auric dragons that lost their power as much as they're just
other species within the dragon group that didn't ascend
no no no
Honestly if it turns out Yharon is just an Auric Soul Dragonfolly i would not be surprised lmao
pure dragons are born with an auric soul
This isn't said anywhere
yes it is
cat
yippeeeeeeeeeee
they are laid to rest on the dragon aerie, so that they are able to be brought back
whos a good girl 
yes, they are reborn there
with their auric soul in tact
no no no
thats not legal only my gfs can say that
they die on the thing
/j/
anyway the auric dragons are laid to rest, meaning that they die on the aerie
I mean i don rly see how that correlates to the idea they must have been born with the soul
I still just fully think that Dragons aren't the original holders of an auric soul
Actually
i think they inherited it's power from the world soul by performing a ritual
That's just what yharim tells us
thats why gods souls arent
Again, Yharim
maybe
yharim does infact not tell you about the world soul
He doesn't!
yeah thats what i said
the world soul is something that needs to be expanded upon
I think them having performed a ritual to absorb fragments of the world soul for one reason or the other would be narratively fitting and provide atleast a few explanations
Ya i'm agreeing w u
It explains how Xeroc knew the ritual to begin with: He was close with the Dragons, Zeratros could've told them
And again
narratively fitting
Gods did a Thing, Dragons did a Thing
They're both sides of the same coin, neither of them are exclusively good or exclusively bad
i think it would be funny if xeroc discovered the ritual first try by chance
so this is what im getting
oh your right the knowledge would have had to come from somewhere
like thats some shonen luck to absorb a soul first try
and thats in addition to getting a pure ascension, also by chance
pure ascencion coming from there being consent beetween the would-be-god and the dragon theory stays strong
im so smar i was the first one to thinko f that
i think
idk
im intollgtn
you were not
some guy months ago came into lore chat with the same theory iirc
catgirl your brain bounces around your skull like the DVD logo and when it hits the corner you have a thought
real
what if
hai
uhmmm
(literally heaven)
i thought pretty much the whole timeline from fovos took place in like 150 yrs or something thats why i put Yharim so far from crusade btw
xuz it wouldnt exist
i'll just say that it was me
(it was not)
tur
oki doki messed up timeline outline time
wasn't that
glass
i wanna eat glass
i ate glass
@eager bluff
what is an acty
?
i wasnt the first i dont think
GMY. cat
but i do remember the theory
ok time to update my timeline gime a minute
im eating shampoo
cat
speaking of cats
about 800 years ago fovos came and blew up the dragons, Xeroc ate Zeratros' soul in the aftermath which kickstarted the dragon genocide
an indeterminate amount of time passed as dragons and gods fought for dominance, with the gods coming out on top, starting the deific era
about 600 years ago draedon wakes up in his creator's lab
about 130 years ago yharim was born
a little over 100 years ago the crusade started
i spotted one at 2am yesterday
that's about all i remember
me :3
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