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corpses of gods
evil 2's are basically remnants of gods trying to reform themselves
they can never do that
if a parasite escaped my decaying body i wouldnt exactly call it a human
Oh right
Tbh i still dont think that's enough essence for anything, considering the weakest god so far is much stronger than evil 2s
Also yharim so evil for killing the god of electricity fuck himš£
i imagine evil 2s can grow in power
and it depends on how much the evil biomes have spreaded
you fight them early on when evils are small so probably thats why they're so weak
Remix seed evil:
I want Yharim dead cause heās really chasing my boy Slime God
I wish Calamity had drunk seeds
Like Hallow or Astral are pre Hard-mode
Then corruption and crimson Hardmode
Corruption, Crimson and Hallow are manifestations of multiple Gods each, festering for decades
So there's not enough essence to form a biome
And it's also very likely DoG consumed their essence after you killed them
Astral could drop souls of light cause the stars give off light
ravager already died
Souls of Light aren't necessarily tied to light itself
World evil souls aren't tied to the night, after all
Souls of Light are most likely tied to the godly essences of the Hallow
Is there a lore reason why there are so many robots around
I just downloaded the mod today and find that to be super weird
wulfrum bots?
Those guys are like
really really old robots made to annoy yharim's troops
basically
xeroc and noxus are really cannon?
Yes
Yes, xeroc even appears in game via boss rush
noxus we kind of know jack shit about in new lore
noxus is my buddy from accounting hes chill asf
if noxus is only accounting, what job is DoG for noxus to be his boss
i went to middle school with noxus
met him again the other day at a coffee shop
right before he left he reached into the tip jar, grabbed a handful of coins, winked at me and then walked out it was kinda uncomfortable
dog is the janitor hes a dick
ohhh ok ok, i thought the guy who talks with us was yharim
He is lie!!!
That the only reason I hate Draedon
Because the storm weaver discovery
Weaver shouldāve stayed the same species as DoG
I missed believing Weaver was Devourers younger sib
Was Daedalus replaced with Draedon when lore was being changed?
wasn't daedalus intended to be like, a good guy working with silva
I remember hearing one time that daedalus was originally draedons creator in lore but I dunno if thats true
The name similar and they're both engineer so I guess that's where they get it from
No
Cause I remember Daedalus in old lore being Yharimās scientist
Instead of Draedon
Then there was a time where they were nameless
Not nameless deity, nameless like had no name
Why would they be nameless?
daedalus used to be Guy Who Almost Became Immortal But Nuked Himself And His Entire City To Make Sure Draedon Wouldn't Get To Him
and now he's (sent to the non canon shadow realm to play uno with goozma and ignalius)
Iirc somewhere a lore maker said the scientist who made Draedon was going to be Daedalus, but they decided not to have that or at least mention it (iirc it's because it was a minor role)
But I'm not 100% sure on that, especially on why
You can still have that scientist be Daedalus in your own "canon", anyways, cause they're unnamed in game
What was Goozmaās lore before being sent to the void
"wouldn't it be fucked up if slime god absorbed all the slimes in existence and ascended beyond this mortal plane"
Oh so how it was done in HotOG
Awesome
Iām headcannoning that Slime Godās name is Goozma now
Thaaankksss
hotdog goozma was probably based on og goozma yeah
<- (has not played modded terraria in well over a year)
Honest to god I wouldāve loved for Goozma to be in Vanilla Terraria
I think Iād be like
Defeat Slime God Pre-Hardmode
Free Him unintentionally by defeating Queen Slime Hardmode
Fight
Astrageldon (Astral Paladins)
But he flees
Then Post Moon-Lord
Either Pre-DoG or Post Yharon
He absorbs all the slimes, including the fallen paladins, king slime, and the Hardmode ore slimes like the uliebloom, cryo, perennial, whatever slimes that drop ore
Then the real fight happens 
The Return to Slime
The Primordial Sludge
Nebulurker is astrageldon paladin in master mode
What is nebuburger
Astrageldon is easy pz
Also a really fun boss
Like top 5 Iāve ever fought
Not in order but itās Inf Scal, Inf Exo, Inf DoG, Inf Slime God, Astrageldon
That's correct, Cei (the main lorewriter) said that
i love among us
I miss what Astrageldon couldāve been
Is there an Old Lore document when there was Goozma & Astrageldon?
Slime God
Well not anymore
Slime God is god of slime
But consumed the Auric Soul of Gluttony
But he goes against the soul by Only Seeking Balance
God of Sacrifices is Ravager tho
who is yharim? im kind of new to the mod lore lol
The bad guy you will fight when the mod is done
Also the person speaking in the lore items
hi chat now that vanilla calamity mod music is official what implications does that have on the lore
terrarian has schizophrenia and hears music 24/7
yeah i had a whole other story written about it but decided to go agaisnt having it in the lore and viugured it'd be best left to the plaers' imagination
Main villain of the mod's story
more or less a genocidal bigot
really really hates gods
there's a pinned doc detailing alot of the currently known story if you'd be interested
Slime God did nothing wrong
We both know that itās John Wulfrum
Itās okay to say that
haiiiiiii
helloo
Ploo the first
me
Yer
you
Cheese
haaaaaaaaaaaiiii :3
I guess he probably got Dragon of Gluttony killed, but considering how the Auric soul was literally the soul of Gluttony and how Slime God has the reputation of going against gluttony the dragon probably wasn't great anyways (not that that excuses murder entirely though, I guess)
I'd consider the amount of time that's passed and what good they've seem to have done to be probably plenty more then enough to excuse them from that, anyways
murder is okay š
A small price to pay
Last time I checked, gluttony was bad, taking in more than is needed, leaving scraps for others
Not good
If the dragons lived their life by their trait, The Gluttony Dragon deserved its death
But we donāt know that for know
But I can only hope the writers go into detail about the gods & the dragons they absorbed
Make it like a funny official web comic
maybe the dragon of gluttony can suppress others' gluttony
So instead of actually being a glutton he just prevents people from being gluttons
So he is very gluttonus of people gluttony
Like he ate people gluttony and make himself more gluttonus
Gluttony singularity
Infinite glutton
Hai ploo leader!!!
Whoās the new cheese u were talking too
which new cheese :plumg:
do i have a evil clone
ill bite her
No I meant u
what oif theres 2
what if theres like a evil doppelganger of me
ploo
Whatās the opposite of cheese object?
ploo
ploo
ploo
This is a ploo assembly
would you rather have unlimited ploo but no ploo
We only have 10 ploos
11 actually
i only wan 1 ploo
why cant i change my server username to ploo
Ask a mod
this is so sad
ploo now
The ploo conversion officer
While I gunpoint u to change it to ploo
ploo
a new ploo has joined
hello bro
Which ploo would u like to adopt
No idk
What do lore droplets think about space lore
How do you think the space ultimately works in cal verse
Same oxygen rules when outside planetoid layer
space as a ecosystem of its own where the base of the food chain is mana instead of sunlight thanks to stars
:p
Wtf how do you know cascade plans.......
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
part yeah
No more ploo discussion
only relevant part for the forseeable future

I would like to keep this chat on topic
hiiiiiį»iiii
I will spontaneously spawn in the middle of discussion in here to ask some lore question
i just go with whatever is going on as long as its fun to talk about
To be the reality check
idrc if its ontopic or offtopic if its a actual enjoyable conversation idm
i talk about fish here sometikmes
anyways random though wuhs up with vernal pass
i've been thinking about how perennial ore issupposed to get its own like
What do you think about the taste of sulphuric fish?
perennial minibiome my beloved š
it feels fitting
Perennial may or may not be merged with vernal pass
like do we need a perennial minibiome that's entirely new or could like
we just simultanously rework vernal and merge it with it
not good
potentially unedible
well i don't think it'll kill you outright
but it probably won't do you any good
the fish themselves probably have a unhealthy concentration of sulphur in them
so technically they're probably edible
I'll bet it's spicy
but they'd probably also taste bad and generally be at best very unhealthy and at worst actively life threatening
what do u ppl think made the distortion
Btw I forgor what is public knowledge on perennial
guaranteed way to get staff of regrowth, anklet, boomstick, etc
also free plantera bulbs for those who find it hard to find
ohhh
xeroc burped
Noxus farted
My theory is that Noxus is considered god in that universe (like an alternate universe of Xeroc) and Noxus conquer and distort it and wanted more power by going to other universe
Distortion is a lot older than xeroc
i like how as more and more bosses are slain, more ore and stone is rooted into the ground because their dead bodies for sme reason cause more ore to appear
this will get to the point where the Xeroc Ore will eventually drop
and the world will be covered in Xeroc Ore
Xeroc has foreseen it so he traveled back in time and axed xeroc bars from the game
Wait
I typoed
I meant vernal pass
I confuse those 2 things in mind
What is public knowledge on vernal pass
Hmmm
What do you think
It can be connected to
We know plantera was created here
Ya plantera most definitely was created here due to the bulbs and all
Like it's not said anywhere i don thin kbut
its kind of a obvious conclusion
No I think it's literally stated
In plantera lore item
But that's 1 thing
Plantera drops living shards
Do you think it can be connected to Silva somehow
I think it'd make sense
perennial ore is also connected to silva (perennial slime bestiary) so plantera has to be connected somehow
Lore addiction symptoms
Lorefever
Sex update when?! Can we have relationships with Yharon?! February 14 next year?! š„°
On a serious note, I wonder when is Dragon Aerieās releasing
Iām excited to see what it looks like along with DoGās dimension
We still have the Sunken Sea rework update coming tho

Update cancelled 
do not speak
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
distortion and especially dragon's aerie are gonna take a long time
More!
What?!
Yharim is Half-Life 3?!

he's gonna take years to get added
we already have half life 2 2
we won't get half life 3
we already have two halves of life there's no need for a third half
4th life
quarter life
The bounty was harvestful
gonna finally be playing ranged again for the first time in a while
Considering how Yharim is planned to be the last guaranteed major update for calamity
Kinda
Yharim update will come within one yharon rebirth cycle
space yharim
space yharim
my ultimate yharim design will be complete one day
but right now i just wanna melt into the floor
now that i think about it what makes a yharim design feel yharim
I would be very interested in seeing someone making a design that is not tied to any previous iteration of him whatsoever
you can always try it yourself
I think I might be subconsciously biased, plus I hate drawing metallic armors
The only thing I know is that I'd give him y or t shaped visor, probably
Most important feature of him is the slit
personally i really like the line
I remember I've seen iban's sketch of Some other artist's yharim design
Vinh?
Vinh yharim goes hard
what does vinh yharim look like
One sec
yharim 12 years and 1 day later
fucking dies of being over 142
(This is Iban's sketch, yeah)
pretty fun design
How reliable a narrator is yharim?
Not at all
noted 
He's one of the most biased people who could have been a narrator
what is brodie sayin
"kill yourself"
He's saying to keep yharon safe
A compilation of my Jungle Tyrant Yharim designs over the course of time (1/4)
#calamitymod https://t.co/o8OyKGDAfV
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it's a whole thread
Yharim strikes me as one of those guys who'll do literally anything except therapy.
My favourite is this
Gigachad yharim
yharim is straight up
ong
i really like the yharim designs that make him look like an absolute titan
Giant mech man
kinda one thing i wanna try with a yharim design is make sorta a mech knight
No way Hallucigenia
hey lore nerds
what greek god would you say represents SCal best
i've been thinking of drawing her in a mech suit of some sort and i'm wondering what the name would be
idek
Prometheus maybe
He stole fire and then was published for it
Calamitas got her abilities in unnatural way (most likely stole them from brimmy), and now those powers are her curse
FOVOS?!?!?!?!?

anyways I kinda agree with Troodon
Phobos?
congrats to prometheus for getting published
he published greek mythology 
Killing myself
Please no
Thatās my idea
Donāt take it away from me
I regret saying that
What do lore droplets think of
Calamitas clone
Now that we know that she was freed be calamitas and gor her powers after that
And they made her go insane?
Do you think cal intentionally gave calclone a bit of her powers
Or was it an accident of some kind
And in either situation do you think cal feels regret for driving clone insane
And also if cal freed clone
That means that clone built her mech herself
Or with the help of someone
But not draedon
i was actually considering coming up with a more detailed storyline for the whole calcone gaining powers thing so i could tie it in with an OC i'm working on
it'd obviously be inaccurate, since we simply don't know much of anything
but i might put some time into considering that whole event
Maybe calclone isn't insane in a way that she wants to kill everything
Maybe she mimics calamitas and what she hear about her
Because she's thankful to cal for freeing her
Or maybe
We know that she tries to be what people think calamitas is
Maybe she wants to put all the "blame" on herself
yea, thats what i would think of cal clone copying calamitas to just kill
Like, become a monster that everyone think she is so that the real cal can live without this burden
also the thing is though of the case calamitas giving cal clone her powers which is "how" she did so
If you think about it calclone is kind of like 3rd sibling to cal
possibly inheritance maybe
It would be interesting if calclone, instead of being violent and mad, was actually doing some good deeds to clear Calamitas' name
yeah, taking the blame what cal did
But maybe people were afraid of her and attacked
And you offer that sibling's ashes to summon her
Fucked up

would prometheus make sense for a hypothetical exo calclone?
i'd say hestia would fit better
Hestia? Goddess of the Hearth and Home?
Hestia is too... positive for Calclone
Calclone is, at best, a victim of her circumstances
legs are symbols of strength
do the exo mechs have legs
Thanatos has small legs
i dont think so
Like a centipede
he has wheels
If draedon was really so smart
he has tiny arms that he uses to drag himself
now that you mentioned insects, i always thought that "exo" had something to do with exo skeletons, and not exotic resonance
the insect with the strongest exo skeleton has a crazy name
miracle matter sounds good, dreadon is on something
way better than whatever nerdy shit he would come up with
"There is nothing miraculous about what you hold in your hands; it is the culmination of decades of research and a testament to the truly unlimited potential of science."āļø š¤ š¤ š¤
Draedon is an omega nerd
Fucking nerd, dont make me give him a wedgie and throw him in the locker
His science machines get bested by a depressed lady with fire powers
also maybe mentally challenged or something? her bestiary entry says her powers takes a heavy toll on her psyche, she has brain damage from using her powers too much
ššitās not gonna break her brain
she's gonna feel it when she grows old
Prime Alzheimer candidate
she's finally gonna let go of all her guilt, because she's gonna forget everything she did due to dementia
Calamitas in the terrarianās basement in 40 years
New P-3 Candidate?!?!
Alzheimerās Prime???
š
the devs don't wanna tell you this, but kicking is actually Fovos' main attack back in the day. The dragons managed to seal him into the moon because they ripped off his legs.
To be completely honest and fair
It's not just legs that moon Lord doesn't have
The entire lower half of his body is gone
ML must have gotten the fuckin michael bay transformers jazz treatment with how he looks
But instead of 1 big guy ripping him on half it probably was a swarm of smaller goobers
I don't think zeratros alone would be able to do that
Exactly!
nah he's like that
real zeratros fans would agree
crazy how in vanilla, this wasn't done by dragons but by the dryads
Mommy dryad coming in to kill Fovos

seek professional help
I think Iām too far gone Garbo
seek a funeral service
I want to be buried with my draedon body pillow
i'll burn it to ashes
The reason people make fun of this channel
I mean he's not wrong for Braelor the dryad would be something like a adoptive mother
Who needs those guys when we have the lore regulars?
I remember we used to have a pinned message about these kinds of comments, sort of
Ture
I make fun of this channel because it's offtopic 24/7 almost
When I first got here a few months ago
We had some great lore discussion
But we kinda talked about everything that there is to talk about
Everything major
An unavoidable fate of lore discussion
I was like this once, too...
This place was like this before you
It will certainly be like this after I leave too
Iām glad that Iāve been apart of a cycle
I definitely contributed to offtopic talk too, sadly
And this place will be like this after you, too
Can you imagine this place when the lore is "finished"
Batman Arkham
There will be nothing to talk about, at least obvious stuff
So it will be general channel 3
Nowadays I joke about Monster Hunter but the people who were here last year know
Lobotomy lore discussion
Good
I knew it's going to be a joke for like 5 days
Unavoidable fate of an internet joke
And then die
Like yharim when yharon egg
Aaron McChicken
Yharim is allergic to fate
I need there to be some kind of plot twist
Like the dragons were actually just the friends that we made along the way
There is one obvious plot twist that you can figure out in calamity lore
I can't say that
Ah yes, the fact that the terrarian is actually Yharim from the future
Oh not public stuff
Time travel
It's technically not public yet
Calamitas is a man? š¤Øš£ļø
But like it's so obvious if you think about it
Is it about moonlord actually
Yharim is xeroc?š£ļøš£ļø
If so I may know but I won't say
No because you have to say now
Nu
Moonlord is ocean man
Iām too dumb for lore chat
Moon Lords real name is Jonathan
Take me by the hand lead me to the land
Jonathan Mac burger
Jonathan Fovos
The fifth
John terraria vs Steven Minecraft

Steven Universe
Steven after not surviving
Sans
mold
New Monster Hunter powerscale may put low and mid-end elder dragons to be closer to high-end calamity characters š£ļø
Alr
Not sure
Could be that Calamitas thought the clone could handle such powers but the clone did not
I don't think the Calamitas interacts with the clone at all
Well, she did free her
Calamitas clone would live in permafrostās basement
damn
Are meteorites stars? Because the astral infection is stated to have originated from a star, despite being spawned by a meteorite
it's possible
hear me out
its not stated anywhere but i do believe that meteors are stars that died naturally
actually nvm i was about to say something i would regret
without turning into astral infection
What are fallen stars then? Stars that further decayed before landing on terraria?
(and astral meteor is speculated to be a star as well)
fallen stars are stars too
its just
stars vary in sizes
irl smaller stars live longer
maybe none of the small stars have had time yet to become small meteorites
It's straight up referred to as the chunk of a star by Yharim and referred as straight up a star by its spawn message "A star has fallen from the heavens" or smth
varies
for boss rush it's xeroc, but generally status messages don't really make sense in a story standpoint
this is crazy
intriguing
ok so i've got a start at least
i thought it would be interesting to integrate the brothers into the mech as well so i'm thinking one normal arm, one flamethrower arm (because of course), one sword arm (catastrophe) and one jackhammer (cataclysm)
maybe the seekers could be like repair drones
or maybe the sword arm should just be a straight up chainsaw
sepulcher whip real?
you do have a point
but i don't entirely know how i'd make a sepulcher that still looks like sepulcher but also looks mechanical
the whole fucked up skeleton centipede thing is pretty vital to its design and i can't really imagine how to replicate that as a robot
i can imagine mechanical spine being the body of a whip, its head is the tip, and arms form something like guard around the handle which is just giant coccyx
get whipped by Calamitas for the low low price of Plaguebringer Tier Patreon membership
well storm weaver wasn't always been this glam
i was a drab little worm once

he's beautiful baby
picturing storm weaver with a flamboyantly villainous personality now it's too late
that's my new headcanon
there's 0 info on it's personality assuming it even has one so i'm just gonna make up my own
i like to imagine that weaver does indeed love shiny things
and has some sort of an ego
it probably is very animalistic but still is smart enough
what is kangelmaxxing cheese
when you see a kangel, maxx the shit out of it until it passes out
wtf dont do that to her
i noticed i talk to my gfs exactly how kangel from hit game needy girl overdose talks to her bf so im kangelmaxxing
oh ok
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In the ancient days, the ground was shaking and the primal forces rage...
this is anahitas voice
don't @ me
im right
this is anahitas voice
i agree because i like it more than groundon but point is THAT IS ANAHITAS VOICE
How it feels to be quadruple weak to your enemy
Groudon live 4x weakness to water reaction:
Groudon is sad
Primal Groudon is sad
Groudon is a living heat vent
Groudonās shiny is sad too
So are most pokemons
Ok but can it beat goku
i love when i inadvertedly start a conversation i can't say anything about
idk anything about competitive pokemon
Competitive?
Actually real
Kyogre is just better
look idkanything about the combat part of pokemon i justlike looking t the funny creatures
I'm pretty sure the primal weather ability is also better
Yeah
i like kyogre more than groudnon cuz it looks cooler
Mood
but groundon is also pretty cool tbh hes not bad
this is where the competitive part comes back
Yeah Groudon is cool
gen 3 legendaries r just one of the better legendary trios to me i think
I will explode you
theyre all p cool
I like the weather trio
base rayquaza is the weakest design i feel but also mega rayquaza fucks so
i don like how plastic base rayquaza looks
like its not bad or anything
it just looks a little too much
idk
unnatural?
gen 9 model helps kinda
mega rayquaza fixes that tho so
you can see the scales
cuz mega rayquaza is badass!!!
Shocked they changed it
Usually they would never
official Cheese ā¢ļø weather trio ranking uhmm
gen 9 textures are just cool
primal kyogre > mega rayquaza > primal groundon > kyogre > groundon > rayquaza
The gen 3 trio ain't the weather trio no more
Whatās ur favorite trio/group
Balance trio (xyz)
Itās either Creation or Regis or XYZ
im too smogon-pilled so i cant appreciate a trio because thereās always one thatās so much worse than the rest
Smogonā¦
Ok but
you saw nothing
anyways creation trio is rly cool and giratina is like top 3 fav legends so
uhhh
solgaleo
i like base necrozma cuz hes like a freaky alien thing
solgaleo and lunala feel equal to me
base necrozma is like nu tho
I hate solgaleo
theyre both cool but not rly my favorites
I love the bat and dog
What about fused forms
deoxys is like
necrozma dusk mane however is like top 3 in ubers
:(
tbh
Omg deoxys
i think i like base forms more
My favorite mythical
I love Deoxys
Zeraora peak
My first mythical through intended methods
Nostalgia bias
Im indifferent to zeraora
from a design perspective zeraora just feels bland to me but
My first mythical
i can understand why ppl like it
Plus it's electric
zeraora is gen 8 only right
i dont get the appeal but ik why other ppl do
kinda forgettable to me
The first game I touched was Sword & Shield and thatās because my parents couldnāt go out of their way to get me a DS, but they got me a switch
just donāt see anyone talk about it
My fav legend is uhm
lowkey, zapdos
probably giratina??? but i feel like i need to think a bit
Actually a fire choice
im not a fan of zapdos
again, probably cause smogon
Both Zapdos are my favorite of the trios
but base zapdos is
idk
i dont get it
its a yellow spiky bird
it dosent rly scream
LEGENDARY to me
like if u told me it was just a random flying type or smth id believe u
tho thats probs just cuz
that clicks specs weather ball on the easiest tusk switch in ever
gen 1 moment
i know nothing about competitive and only judge things from design cuz thats all i rly care about
I judge partially comp wise if I know about it
comp is why i like zapdos but yeah zapdos looks funny
but i never got into it
the fact that itās wings clip into itself is just
ehhh
actually no everything on zapdos clips into itself
Galarian Zapdops is so precious
if not zapdos then probably rayquaza
Whatās ur guys favorite PokĆ©mon in general?
except this time itās +2 extreme speeds
Slither wing
uhmm
thatās crazy cause mine is volc
Really good choice
I shiny farmed a slither wing
My 2nd favorite is uh
i cant help it look at it
my favorite used to be anorith until dolliv manifested itself into the franchise
Excavalier
Lemme guess
qwilfish i think
Uuuuuuuh
i think yours is wobuffet
Pikachu
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I love fish
more fishs and crabs and whales and squids and such
actually how many whale pokemon are there
there's liek
thereās a lot, a lot of em suck unfortunately
wailord, cetitan
which admittedly i rly like i love both
cetitans one of my fav gen 9 guys probs
Kyogre Wailord Wailmer Cetoddle Cetitan
Wdym???
but to me it just feels like a amalgamate of various traits generally associated with marine animals and sea monsters and stuff
kyogre is definitely a porpoise

like he kind of gots a whale shape going on but hes not rly a whale i dont think
hes just kyogre
its a weird orca
like rayquaza is shaped like a snake and stuff but i wouldnt rly call him a snake
hes just snakelike
same for kyogre and whale i feel
Okay hahas aside I love the Lickitung line, their colors, the dex entries, the design
i think lickitung is funny
im not a fan of the evo tho idk
but lickitung itself is cute
The shinies are nice
gen 4 evos r kind of hit or miss
they added alot of them
some r rly cool
others r
ambipon .
It was my first Shiny Alpha in PLA, First shiny in Lets Go, first plush I bought on the Pokemon Center store
my first and only shiny was a skarmory in gen 3
Ooo nice
i don't have it anymore thougha nd it's gone forever because it was on a emulator and i don't have the save anymore
My first shiny was Steelix in SWSH
skarmory is one of my favorite gen 2 pokemon i think
it's rly cool even if its a bit of a random design
funny steel bird guy
tbh i kind of hope a regional skarmory or smth happens
its a rly cool design for gen 2 standards but i feel like modernizing it could make it fantastic
how can you not love this creature
squirtle is probably the main reason i love turtles so much
You act like he isnāt my favorite starter
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I fucking love Squirtle
I picked him in PokĆ©mon Brick Bronze, he was my first shiny starter, heās blue, a water type, and is adorable
this mf dies to surge so quickly
FUCK YOU
Counterpoint
my fav starter is turtwig
Why are you stupid enough to use a water type in an electric gym
thats also incredibly based
this
you get like 3 ground types at that point
fav gen 1 starter is probs like
bulb
butttt the other two r also nice
i don dislike them
Okay actual fire take
Turt was my Sinnoh starter
torterra is fucking awesome
I fucking HATE CHIMCHAR
i like the monkey hes a funny monkey
im indifferent to chimchar
CHIMCHAR SUCKS
he's my least favorite sinnoh starter and somewhere in the middle
for all starters
Empoleon is neat
fucking shoots you with my finger sniper
now if there's a mon you'd never catch me using
It's greninja
fucking hate greninja
it looks like a hazbin hotel character and i don't like it š
the proportions r all over the place
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and it dosen't rly convey the spy trheme too well
why have you cursed me with this knowledge
like
inteleon is based on gex i think
Lame frog
it shoots you
ill never unsee this again
and it has like, sort of a spy vest going on wit the dark colors
but thats it
it rly dosent scream
spy chameleon to me
it just looks like a hazbin hotel lizard
i like inteleon but it's a bit confusing
he will be baked soon alhamdulilah š
its a spy, but its gimmick is about sniping?
on the other hand i think all of the gen 9 starters r really nice and think they did a good job making all of them equally good in their own ways
Despite being my first PokƩmon game, I really do not care for SWSH starters
i have no opinions on any of the actual pokemon
same tbh lol
i dont care about any of them
dislike intelleon, indifferent towards the other two
cinderace is eh, rillaboom is ok, inteleon is decent
the only part of the series i do have an opinion on is elements being stupid
also unpopular opinion
chesnaught is awesome
why is rock and ground different
Furry bait, Furry bait, or Lame ass lizard
HOLY SHIT
NO WAY
FINALLY
metal being different is already a stretch
like chesnaught is easily the coolest kalos starter
Garbo
You are the greatest person Iāve had the pleasure to discuss PokĆ©mon with
meowscarada is cute and whimsical and gay, quaquaval is badass and whimsical and gay, skeledirge is š
they're all rly cool
idk which is my fav
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