wtf
#lore-discussion
pliant ruin
I think Statis's name was always Statis and Statigel is named in homage to him probably
solar wharf
I think Statis's name was always Statis and Statigel is named in homage to him p...
did he invent statigel armor or?
stark basalt
Statigel armor so good
pliant ruin
current brimstone crags already shows some of it
stark basalt
Use it until calclone
pliant ruin
the spine trees
spring helm
some of the mobs in the brimstone crags are there because of the fallout of Calamitas' fight with the Brimstone Elemental
pliant ruin
spine trees aren't natural things
spring helm
I used Statigel until Astrageldon
what duh hell
pliant ruin
they're there cuz necromantic fallout moment
solar wharf
some of the mobs in the brimstone crags are there because of the fallout of Cala...
so its basically their equivlant of nuclear weaponry?
pliant ruin
yes
spring helm
yeah except there are also actual nukes
solar wharf
yeah except there are also actual nukes
meant as in like, magic's nuke
nuclear weaponry arent magic i think?
spring helm
this is an ecological disaster, i can't tell who's typing anymore
solar wharf
LMAO
spring helm
meant as in like, magic's nuke
yeah i akin it to the mushroom bomb from adventure time
crimson finch
My favorite boss summons, Catanuke & Catastronuke
spring helm
one piece mentioned
pliant ruin
is that the red mist
spring helm
i think luffy would enjoy being in the world of Calamity
pliant ruin
is that the red mist
spring helm
Since most of the world got blown up during the Crusade, Terraria's kinda been set back to the Age of Exploration
spring helm
is that the red mist
yuh
crimson finch
Luffy would somehow get Slime God & Calamitas on his crew
He’d probably get Draedon as a Franky Replacement
spring helm
somehow? same way he convinced everyone else to join his crew
not taking no for an answer
in that regard, luffy's kind of a monster. if he wasn't such a good person that trait of his would be horrifying (Blackbeard)
crimson finch
Sanji, Nami, Franky who he was literally fighting, Zoro,
pliant ruin
could luffy distort
crimson finch
Yeah
pliant ruin
could luffy corrode
spring helm
wdym
pliant ruin
crimson finch
He could eat stuff and corrode it in his tummy acid
spring helm
Luffy would hate Calamitas because she can't cook
stark basalt
one piece mentioned
Detroit Smash!😎
crimson finch
That’s not a reason for Luffy
crimson finch
He ate burnt food made by a little girl
spring helm
i don'tk now anythin about one piece help
read 1100 manga chapters
spring helm
He ate burnt food made by a little girl
true
pliant ruin
spring helm
he would dislike Calamitas because she wallows in her self pity and doesn't seem to want to help herself to change
crimson finch
(The filler arc with that sickle-sickle guy that wanted the dragons)
crimson finch
he would dislike Calamitas because she wallows in her self pity and doesn't seem...
I also don’t think that’s true, he wouldn’t like her for that, that’s true, but wouldn’t actively dislike her
wheat walrus
Detroit Smash!😎
isn't that My Hero Academia
crimson finch
He got Nami out of her despair
spring helm
I also don’t think that’s true, he wouldn’t like her for that, that’s true, but ...
i imagine it to be like when he first met Coby and Shirahoshi
crimson finch
Sanji too
He didn’t even really hate them tho
/ dislike
He just disliked that they’re focused on being cowardly/scared/crying
pliant ruin
what is luffys opinion on apples
crimson finch
He’ll eat anything besides a cherry pie from a certain bar at a certain island
spring helm
i don'tk now anythin about one piece help
luffy's a freedom loving guy. he's the type to not be able to have fun if he knows others are unable to be free, whether that be literally or figuratively.
He's push himself to the brink to help others, though he'd deny being called a hero
crimson finch
apples are bad and you should dislike them
Listen I can’t eat apples for medical reasons, but they’re delicious, I eat them whole, fuck you 
pliant ruin
Listen I can’t eat apples for medical reasons, but they’re delicious, I eat them...
apples don't deserve being called DELICIOUS
apples SUCK
spring helm
are you a doctor
crimson finch
You don’t deserve the right to speak if you don’t like apples
Picky little kid behavior
pliant ruin
no but i fully understand why they don't like apples
i've not been the same since the incident
spring helm
you are welcome to dislike them
crimson finch
What were you told to eat your fruit in the 4th grade???
spring helm
doesn't really affect me so i don't care
pliant ruin
What were you told to eat your fruit in the 4th grade???
you underestimate the malice of apples
pliant ruin
No, just apples
visual kiln
im god
spring helm
you are bunny ploo
pliant ruin
the apple follows me everywhere i go it's fucking haunting me
spring helm
CALAMITY LORE TIE-IN
crimson finch
🍎
spring helm
WE STAYING ON TOPIC WITH THIS ONE
visual kiln
this apple isn't very good
crimson finch
🗣️🍎
spring helm
lore reason as to why you can't eat more of the ambrosia and other shimmered consumables?
pliant ruin
the other day i was playing some tabletop rpgs with my friends and i was gonna play some battle music and by pure chance the fucking apple song started playing and then almost immediately after the DM described to us how one of the mimics was hiding itself was an apple
spring helm
the other day i was playing some tabletop rpgs with my friends and i was gonna p...
bad apple?
crimson finch
You’ll melt into shimjer 
crimson finch
Holy Shit bad apple
pliant ruin
the fucking apple that i hate
pliant ruin
this was not the first time i by pure concidence was jumpscared by something or some series of events that reminded me of the Apple and it will not be the last
solar wharf
i wonder whats each characters opinion on each class
yharim clearly doesnt view ranger as cowardly as his army has a fair share of them
its also stupid to think like that as a leader
pliant ruin
yharim probably wouldn't like summoner
pliant ruin
while i doubt summoner would actually be ''harming" the summons in any way since for the most part i imagine they'd be some sort of spirit that manifests itself to help you (though there's also a good amount of Machines) yharim wouldn't care because he's stupid
solar wharf
he finds the idea of letting others fight for u both immoral and cowardly
but i'd assume summons dont actually be harmed by you, and machines are well
machines
they dont have feelings
they arent really sentient
pliant ruin
Yeah i imagine summons are either like
spirits from beyond manifesting themselves as little creatures to help you
or
just
yk
machines
solar wharf
they probably could reform themselves with mana
that would explain why they are unkillable
pliant ruin
spirits from beyond manifesting themselves as little creatures to help you
kind of like stereotypical fantasy familiars actually
solar wharf
maybe canon wise, each time a summon is damaged, it takes mana from you to heal itself
solar wharf
kind of like stereotypical fantasy familiars actually
true
wouldnt be surprised if yharim hired rogues for assassinations
spring helm
Yharim used to be fine with rogues\
after the Braelor and Statis incident, not anymore
solar wharf
LMAO
visual kiln
@visual kiln
pliant ruin
@pliant ruin
woeful patio
@woeful patio
stark basalt
Which ploo are we trying to speak to?
noble niche
Which ploo are we trying to speak to?
The one true ploo
One day they will descend and save us
The ploo god with the auric soul from the dragon of ploo
crimson finch
Are you guys leading a Holy Ploosade?
noble niche
Are you guys leading a Holy Ploosade?
Do you wish to stop us?
crimson finch
Nah
calm patio
good
noble niche
Many have been ploocified in our quest
crimson finch
Don’t “good” me
crimson finch
Nuh uh
crimson finch
Like poopy
calm patio
im having a shower now
solar wharf
Rip he died again
LMAO
visual kiln
wet fox
so is calamitas still from azafure in the new lore or nah
visual kiln
yse
wet fox
cool
real silo
old lore cal was from a random ass cave
crimson finch
Mountain
wet fox
wait right
crimson finch
so is calamitas still from azafure in the new lore or nah
bro no joke I asked that question like yesterday
wet fox
idk just her burning her former home on yharims orders is just one of the cooler parts of the lore tbh
calm patio
idk just her burning her former home on yharims orders is just one of the cooler...
nah old lore everyone was just
edgy
crimson finch
Ploo
stuck shore
My plumg privileges would be ded if I wasn’t ploo cultist
scenic yacht
cloud ibex
idk just her burning her former home on yharims orders is just one of the cooler...
it wasn't her former home in old lore, it had been so long since her ancestors were thrown out of the crags that she had no idea they even came from there
buoyant inlet
I think we should skin plumg alive in the boiling pot of oil
cloud ibex
i will destroy little plum
mighty zenith
she's just a silly little fly
noble niche
Who's plumg?!?
wet fox
But I did prefer Anahita back then
as in like when she was the siren or when she was anahita but with a cooler and sadder backstory
paper prism
ploo
crimson finch
as in like when she was the siren or when she was anahita but with a cooler and ...
Which one
crimson finch
I’m thinking when she grabbed the trident when her place was like crumpling
cloud ibex
I’m thinking when she grabbed the trident when her place was like crumpling
That would be nahlyn
As in, green siren
stark basalt
Ploo
mighty zenith
ploo
stark basalt
There are so many of us now
trim edge
the aploocalypse
wheat walrus
ploo
graceful otter
no
graceful otter
ploo will die
calm patio
no
scenic yacht
yes
graceful otter
yeah
buoyant inlet
ploo will die
Finally i agree with Noob
scenic yacht
im ploocist
buoyant inlet
Noob, its time to forget all our previous conflicts and unite against common enemy
mighty zenith
i may be buying rain wlrdl but im not becoming ploo
buoyant inlet
i play rain world and im not becoming ploo too
scarlet pecan
mornin everyone
scenic olive
Ploos
keen hearth
not you too....
Not you ploo
wheat walrus
not you too....
it's for the funnies :3
scenic olive
You will gladly tear the ploos apart
all before they start to ploo again
alright whos gonna be the Yharim of the ploos
calm patio
me :3
scenic olive
no youre already ploo
we need someone whos not a ploo
then we throw him into lava
mighty zenith
the plooseeker
scenic yacht
Im gonna explode ploo
calm patio
No.
mortal nimbus
I've only recently started playing Calamity and I know that there's new lore being made and old lore being thrown away, is there a doc, or a site, where I can easily read lore or it's only reading item descriptions and lurking here?
buoyant inlet
there's a pinned doc in this channel
that contains all in game lore entries
and also the old lore mostly doesn't exist in game anymore
there are small remnants of it, like some npc and boss dialogue
graceful otter
alright whos gonna be the Yharim of the ploos
scenic olive
Im gonna explode ploo
Exploode
mighty zenith
help deez nuts
wheat walrus
Sir, this is Calamity Mod Discord #lore-discussion
What are you expecting from people here
spring helm
What was the message
wheat walrus
Scamming
spring helm
Yikes
thick slate
too many ploo
visual bane
what is the lore behind ploo
rotund shore
ploo
mighty zenith
what the fucke ryo
mighty zenith
yes
mortal nimbus
Did all Gods use some ritual to absorb souls, or is it akin to Dragonborn from TES?
mortal nimbus
Yes, there's a ritual
So all Gods had go learn it someway?
buoyant inlet
Yeah
buoyant inlet
Maybe
wheat walrus
A very sneaky someone
buoyant inlet
It's possible that Xeroc was observed
But maybe not, and people just heard about it somehow
mortal nimbus
How did Auric Dragons came to be? Just evolution or some outer influence?
buoyant inlet
We know that they were given their powers
mortal nimbus
We know that they were given their powers
World soul?
wheat walrus
Maybe
buoyant inlet
I think it's implied that dragons were natural creatures, then when the world soul shattered, they were gifted their powers.
Some dragons didn't get auric souls and became the first offshoots, tho in this case they aren't literally offshoots
Like old duke iirc
mortal nimbus
World soul as in planet or universe?
buoyant inlet
It's part of a planet
It's implied to be soul of terraria, and terraria is a planet
mortal nimbus
So every planet has a soul?
buoyant inlet
Maybe, we don't know
World soul is a very mysterious entity and we know very little about it
mortal nimbus
As well as why it shattered?
buoyant inlet
Yeah
Btw it's important to keep in mind that current lore is still wip and there will be more with updates
So some of those questions will be answered later, for now we can speculate
crimson finch
What’s the world soul
mortal nimbus
Soul of the planet
crimson finch
Makes sense
wheat walrus
World soul is not real and auric dragons were made up by a small faction that opposed the gods, Yharon is just a man in a costume who manipulated Yharim into ruling said small faction and allow it to enforce its hate towards the gods
:3
mortal nimbus
Is there concrete answer to how magic and mana works? Stars made out of it are interesting, but I like spells more
crimson finch
World soul is not real and auric dragons were made up by a small faction that op...
Okay I believe you
So slime god is innocent
wheat walrus
How tf did I manage to make all of this up lmao
wheat walrus
Calamitous
crimson finch
Yharim sipping out of a comedically large tea cup holding a large plate smacking his mouth after every sip.
mortal nimbus
If stars are big concentrations of mana and Primordial Light is almost explicitly said to be sunlight, does that mean Xeroc is a God of Mana and during(upcoming) boss rush all bosses are puppets made of mana?
buoyant inlet
Not really
Primordial light is different from starlight
And technically sun is not a star
In cal verse
mortal nimbus
And technically sun is not a star
If it's not a star, then what?
buoyant inlet
It's a thing made out of primordial light
mortal nimbus
What stops the opposite from being true? Like, as if Primordial Light made out of sunlight
crimson finch
Hehe the Empress of Light is made of light in Boss Rush
buoyant inlet
Primordial light is sunlight
cloud ibex
Do you want her to have another one
mortal nimbus
not primordial light
Primordial light is hinted to be the sun, sun is a star and therefore made of mana, it's a weird chain of thoughts, but I think it works?
vocal snow
mana is not a primordial light, your chain is simply wrong
just do not apply irl lore to cal lore and dont be confused
sun is not a star
deal with it
mortal nimbus
sun is not a star
Primordial light is said to be the sun, but it doesn't say it can't be mana
vocal snow
sure
whatever suits you man
its just so happen that at night for some reason we have more mana attunement than at day
maybe sun is just a big star with gravitational pull so strong that it's just consumes all mana to itself
who knows right?
solar wharf
Primordial light is hinted to be the sun, sun is a star and therefore made of ma...
its confirmed
that stars and suns are different
the thing we know as star is simply condensed mana
if sun and stars are different than a sun cant be that
it might have to do with mana but it isnt just condensed mana
mortal nimbus
who knows right?
You're a really obnoxious fuck who can't talk like a normal person, aren't you? If you think I'm wrong just say it in a normal way, maybe link something, why act like an 8th grader?
solar wharf
bro what
vocal snow
haha chill bro
solar wharf
didnt even call you wrong
what they said was right
we dont know what a star is
it COULD have to do with mana
we just know they are somehow different from a star
thats it
mortal nimbus
Yeah, I get that, but there's no reason to say it in a such obnoxious way
mortal nimbus
we just know they are somehow different from a star
Aight
vocal snow
maybe sun is just a big star with gravitational pull so strong that it's just co...
I already told you where you were wrong, and also thats stuff is actually an interesting theory
stuck shore
Hi ploo clan
solar wharf
hello
mortal nimbus
that stars and suns are different
Wait, suns?
vocal snow
era of ploo
mortal nimbus
Suns and stars are different?
solar wharf
Wait, suns?
mars is confirmed to exist, so it isnt far off to assume that another sun does exist
solar wharf
Suns and stars are different?
yes
stars are just condensed mana, they dont produce primoridial light
mortal nimbus
So, stars are condensed mana and suns are primordial light?
solar wharf
thats what we know yes, but suns could also have to do with mana but its simply just not as simple as stars
mortal nimbus
But how is it known there are several suns?
solar wharf
it isnt, its just a very good theory as mars exist
mortal nimbus
Mars has it's own sun?
solar wharf
we dont know, let me double check if the sun orbitting terraria is actually a theory or confirmed
vocal snow
did devs like confirmed that marsians are literally marsians?
crimson finch
Marsians?
solar wharf
they confirmed the existence of their planets
vocal snow
i dont remember
crimson finch
Martians?
vocal snow
yeah
crimson finch
Oh
solar wharf
well to be more specific
they didnt do that
the game itself did, thats the entry for the UFO
which is canon
martians come from a really fucked world
which we call mars but i'd assume eventually it'd be renamed
vocal snow
canon these days...
solar wharf
theres also fovos and the pillars
either there is 1 big sun with multiple planets that support life, or there is multiple suns for each planet
we dont know
vocal snow
it doesnt really matter tbh
solar wharf
fovos could just be some sort of a deity but the pillars do seem like a fallen civilization controlled by fovos
vocal snow
just some worldbuilding
mortal nimbus
Pillars all show different color, they also bring moons, which might be the reason for colour change
solar wharf
either that or the pillars have nothing to do with fovos and just happens to see "woah, terraria is no longer protected, lets invade1"
stuck shore
I’m ploomg
solar wharf
ploo
vocal snow
omg I'm plooming
mortal nimbus
Is eternal night just night, or something more esoteric?
vocal snow
iirc pillars are remnants of civilizations destroyed by fovos
solar wharf
Is eternal night just night, or something more esoteric?
do we even know?
vernal glade
Is eternal night just night, or something more esoteric?
I believe it is meant to serve as the pre-creation period, before the stars were created
mortal nimbus
do we even know?
I don't, my knowledge comes from a google doc and a few item descriptions
solar wharf
is it the one in pins?
mortal nimbus
is it the one in pins?
Ye
solar wharf
ye that one is valid
vocal snow
it's outdated partially tho
solar wharf
laserfish entry is outdated, idk if it got updated
vernal glade
yeah no mention of fovos
vocal snow
by a small margin
solar wharf
its draedons creation
wait no
its the opposite
the game bestiary for laserfish is outdated
the doc one is the new one
the devs just forgor
solar wharf
vetrasyl does
we told him
and asked him which one was outdated
he confirmed the ingame one is
vocal snow
nice
mortal nimbus
I suppose lizards are post-dragon hunt civilization?
solar wharf
the deity left them
vocal snow
hard to say about the roots of their civ
uncut pike
How mamy slimes does it take to make one town slime, also ima be honest slime
God could have just became a town slime
crimson finch
If there was a swap universe would Calamitas be a Southern Gun Slinging cow girl
Wait more like a vigilante
vocal snow
finally some real questions
crimson finch
She’d go from Mage & Summoner to Ranger & Melee
Her brothers could be part of her rag-tag group
uncut pike
If there was a swap universe would Calamitas be a Southern Gun Slinging cow girl
I have a headcannon that dog is speaking in a southren accent
vocal snow
How mamy slimes does it take to make one town slime, also ima be honest slime
Go...
exactly as much as is required for a sufficient level of intelligence to be not aggressive
uncut pike
And thats how he convinced yharim
vocal snow
or smth
crimson finch
I have a headcannon that dog is speaking in a southren accent
Rattle Snake Jake from Rango
Holy shit
Actually Peak
uncut pike
Rattle Snake Jake from Rango
“I tip my armor, one legend to another”
crimson finch
DoG isn’t that Honorable
uncut pike
DoG isn’t that Honorable
Tbh yeah
crimson finch
But that’s a hell of a line
solar wharf
If there was a swap universe would Calamitas be a Southern Gun Slinging cow girl
she would be from brimingham
crimson finch
No
uncut pike
she would be from brimingham
Slime gods the sherif
crimson finch
She’d be a Cowgirl Vigilante Gunman for Hire
Hell yeah
Wait
Slime God is Rango
DoG is Rattle Snake Jake
Yharim is that stupid mayor turtle
uncut pike
Oley okey another thing
crimson finch
Beans is uhhhh
uncut pike
We can ALL agree draedon would make those samsong smart fridges
uncut pike
He owns all tech products
I feel like he just makes them way to complicated
Like adding two factor identification on a toster
crimson finch
You never know
That toaster could be used as home security
Or a lock for a secret room containing weapons or loot
uncut pike
That toaster could be used as home security
I feel like after the battle draedon switched to another type of technology to conquer after his “magmo oprea”
Made he makes the exo fridge
It bakes and freezes stuff, at the same time
vocal snow
giant microwave to put yharim in it
crimson finch
Yharim was already Poached & boiled when he was a kid-teen-young adult-idk how old he was when he was cast into the lava of hell, reheating him is going to make the texture and flavor worse
mighty zenith
an unknown disaster -- a calamity is what you are
solar wharf
i meant in terms of like, actual physical explosions
mighty zenith
then yeah the hive
solar wharf
what does the hive do?
solar wharf
so it just depends, if supernova is an actual explosion in the canon
then its probably that
mighty zenith
I imagine it is
solar wharf
I imagine it is
me too
graceful otter
an unknown disaster -- a calamity is what you are
an unknown waterfall -- a cascade is what you are
solar wharf
do u guys think this has to do something with noxus?
i really cannot wait to see what happens
shut tide
nah
tall delta
do u guys think this has to do something with noxus?
probably
graceful otter
: )
untold forge
do u guys think this has to do something with noxus?
no its a marriage proposal
untold forge
XEROC KILL SLIME GOD AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
shut tide
lean crag
https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-1-area-god-of-war-and-my-life-is-yours-...
Kratos but calamity-ified through Xeroc would go kinda hard as a design don’t you think
lean crag
Yessss
untold forge
its not a scar its a tattoo
lean crag
Make it the whole sigil covering his eye…
Like how it was called the eye of Xeroc
Now it is Xeroc’s eye..
untold forge
YES
crimson finch
Yharim saw Kratos in a GoW let’s play and made his entire personality around him.
graceful otter
fun fact
calamitas' npc line about permafrost?
hasnt existed since the lore rewrite
spring helm
🔥 🔥 🔥 OUTDATED DIALOGUE THAT DOESN'T CONVEY THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TWO CHARACTERS🔥 🔥 🔥
rotund shore
calamitas' npc line about permafrost?
yeah the fact they don't have any happiness quotes is wild, iirc they might be working on adding it? has been suggested by a few people in #suggestions-posting , and I think got accepted, maybe im misremembering
graceful otter
yeah the fact they don't have any happiness quotes is wild, iirc they might be w...
no i mean
that one quote about cal not liking permafrost
its been on the wiki for over a year, despite it not existing since the lore rewrite
solar wharf
thank you for blue balling us
graceful otter
this was the commit that removed it
this makes me wonder though
how much other old lore stuff exist on the wiki that doesnt actually exist in game
visual kiln
solar wharf
ploo
golden oasis
you guys think that xeroc once his fight is eventually added will have some sick ass title like "Xeroc, The First God", or will they go for a less is more approach with just "Xeroc"
cloud ibex
i think yharim is more deserving of the simple name style boss title
mighty zenith
Same
Honestly I hope he's just called "The Godseeker"
or just "Yharim" but to a lesser extent
earnest flare
actually we need to fight yerm
golden oasis
i like the idea that storm weaver isn't really an intelligent creature at all (even if it's from the distortion, where DOG, signus, and ceaseless came from)
it just went "im very hongry" and began eating whatever it found up there
paper prism
“Mmmm I’m very hungry”
jumpscares and eats a harpy
visual kiln
ploo
paper prism
ploo
golden oasis
whatever that is, it's spreading
fierce pagoda
Everytime i read that word it reminds me of the PLUH! sound effect
noble niche
That's cool, join us
fierce pagoda
I'm sorry, but If i change my name its gonna ruin my identity
visual kiln
steals ur identity
fierce pagoda
you know, i actually have an idea
there we go
Anyways, you ever think they are gonna changed the exo weapon recipies to be more consistent with each other?
currently we have like a sort of Elemental weapon theme going on, but some exo weapons dont have and elemental weapon
and some just do their own thing all toghether
currently in the lore, given how they have explained what miracle matter does, it all makes sense, it just decrafts weapons and remakes them into something new
but with that logic, wouldn't some exo weapons be more powerful than others? seen as they are made up of different materials, the exo weapons made up of the strongest base weapons should be the most powerful one
but changing their recipes to be more similar will eliminate that possibility
eager bluff
but with that logic, wouldn't some exo weapons be more powerful than others? see...
physically yeah
but that has nothing to do with power output
like exoblade is probably gonna be higher on the mohs hardness scale than other stuff but not necessarily immediately stronger in every way
fierce pagoda
that was what i was thinking. But why though? what properties does miracle matter change that makes the strength of the materials matter when combining them
eager bluff
my guess is its like making a really fucked up alloy
fierce pagoda
wouldn't it just be smartest for the terrarian to combine the strongest weapons they know of
and not randomly choosing from their progression
like why didnt they use the ark of the cosmos in the making of the exo blade
insead of the flarefrost blade like bro
eager bluff
and you also have to consider functionality if you have things that dont work together at all the exo weapon is probably not gonna work very well
fierce pagoda
that was fast as hell
crimson finch
Yep
fierce pagoda
i didnt even see it
fierce pagoda
1 tick boss kill
crimson finch
fierce pagoda
and you also have to consider functionality if you have things that dont work to...
how is that measured
some exo weapons use cosmolite weapons, while use uelibloom
if you know the exo weapons can handle cosmolite weapons, why not just use cosmolite weapons for all of them
crimson finch
Use copper
eager bluff
if you know the exo weapons can handle cosmolite weapons, why not just use cosmo...
think of it like making an alloy
just mashing together the strongest materials you can find generally doesnt work out too well
fierce pagoda
I thought that was what Miracle matter was made to do
fierce pagoda
so the terrarian just happened to find the best weapons to combine together, making sure that they all work good together resulting in the best exo weapon possible
eager bluff
yes
fierce pagoda
I'll take that answer
solar wharf
just mashing together the strongest materials you can find *generally* doesnt wo...
either that or ark of the cosmos is too strong
it would cause an unstable energy source
as ark of cosmos alone is able to produce enough energy to be at the top of strongest weapons
crimson finch
the ploos rule over this domain
fierce pagoda
i find it kinda sad that you leave behind the ark of the cosmos, which has been with you the entire game, for the exo blade
the exo blade is also with you for a long time, but not as long as the ark
crimson finch
What is AotC not canon?
solar wharf
i find it kinda sad that you leave behind the ark of the cosmos, which has been ...
please make us combine iris excalibur with ark of the cosmos post yharim
fierce pagoda
no its canon im pretty sure
solar wharf
and thats how we defeat noxus
pliant ruin
kill la kill refernece memetic agent activate
solar wharf
What is AotC not canon?
it is
crimson finch
So why do we abandon it???
fierce pagoda
abandon it as in exo blade is more viable
solar wharf
because we couldnt it upgrade it
fierce pagoda
when you get it
solar wharf
miracle weapons >
fierce pagoda
exo blade is furhter in progression
thats kinda why i wanteed the ark of the cosmos to be a part of the exo blade
pliant ruin
hi lore chat id say good morning but i had a terrible night of sleep cuz of spam calls and neighbours screaming right outside my room and whatsapp messages so i slept all day and now it's basically already night
so uhmm good night
byut like
fierce pagoda
just so that i could carry it with me
pliant ruin
i love the design of the orderbringer
fierce pagoda
that would be cool, but im very certani that the iridescent excalibur is being pushed behind Yharim
solar wharf
or use it in a xeroc fight if that ever gets added
pliant ruin
the way it has a fucking Eye gives it like
solar wharf
that would be cool, but im very certani that the iridescent excalibur is being p...
it already is behind yharim, im saying when yharim gets added, you need a certain material from the dragon aeerie, which u use to combine
ark of the comsos
and that excalibur
solar wharf
so we continue the ark of the comsos line
fierce pagoda
the arks tooltip, "The physical culmination of your journey, capable of rending gods asunder"
its the culmination of your journey
but then its behind exo blade and iridescent excalibur in progression
really cool calamity devs
solar wharf
but let us combine ark of the cosmos
we also need a weapon like this for every class
a weapon that uses both miracle matter and ashes of annihilation
use tyranny's end :3
solar wharf
i just woke up
why cant miracle matter reform auric weaponry
fierce pagoda
whats the earliest ranger weapon that gets carried farthest in progression?
pliant ruin
there are no miracle matter auric crafts are there
solar wharf
none of it uses auric weapons no?
solar wharf
ye
but it doesnt use any auric weaponry
like in the exoblade
it doesnt use ark of the cosmos
fierce pagoda
you're right i dont think it does
pliant ruin
is it the corruption/ crimson bow?
on my ranger playhtrough that i've currently kind of put in hiatus i didnt even use those
fierce pagoda
it would be kinda redundant
you already use 5 auric for miracle matter iself
now you use 5 more for the weapon
crimson finch
They should make an Exo whip that’s just a charger cord
solar wharf
i think pre-yharim, they should add weapons past miracle matter, ones that combine both ashes of annihilation and miracle matter for every class, and then after you defeat yharim with said weapon, the dragon aeerie has a source of material which is even stronger, which you use auric weaponry like ark of the cosmos, kingsbane etc to combine with ur miracle matter weapons
crimson finch
Ark of the Gods???
pliant ruin
Ark of The Scrungle
solar wharf
WHEN IT COMES FROM THE AEERIE
crimson finch
It just cuts around them with the pair of scissors then the foe just gets cut out from existing
pliant ruin
Noah's Ark and it's just a fucking Boat you use as a weapon 😭
fierce pagoda
reminds me of something that happened in jujutusu kaisen
solar wharf
It just cuts around them with the pair of scissors then the foe just gets cut ou...
you switch modes, separate the scissors into 2 swords for way faster attack speed, or keep them into a full scissor for the parry and higher damage output!!!
crimson finch
you switch modes, separate the scissors into 2 swords for way faster attack spee...
Make one of them true melee
I’m thinking the dual swords true melee
Boutta make Xeroc & Noxus Beat Saber
solar wharf
since the excalibur is canon
that basically confirms, miracle matter and calamitas magic
CAN
work together
crimson finch
fierce pagoda
it sounds so nasty polluting our pristine miracle matter with stinky ashes
i know the ashes are powerful though so I'd still do it
whose ashes are they
solar wharf
eager bluff
whats the earliest ranger weapon that gets carried farthest in progression?
minishark
crimson finch
Are donor weapons canon?
eager bluff
no
solar wharf
nope
crimson finch
Womp
crimson finch
Bloodshed isn’t real
eager bluff
no dedicated item is canon
solar wharf
its like the perfect weapon
fierce pagoda
his own music boxes i suppose
crimson finch
Oh
solar wharf
Oh tyranny’s end is the sniper
ye
theres actually no reason for it to not be canon
except the fact that its a donor item
crimson finch
his own music boxes i suppose
That means he has the most dedicated items towards him
Awesome sauce
eager bluff
Does Dokuro have a dedicated item?
no
crimson finch
Womp womp
fierce pagoda
I think Dokuro has something even better than just a silly dedicated item though, he has his own music in the mod that plays
that is much grander than just a single item I'd say
crimson finch
Unfortunate that he left, hope he’s doing great
crimson finch
Womp
tall delta
Is the Idea of mm being a living metal still a thing
visual kiln
we should kill miracle matter
tall delta
never
crimson finch
Miracle Matter is just Flubber but metal
visual kiln
miracle matter was a mistake
languid badge
matter of miracles
tall delta
miracle matter was a mistake
you dont know what you're talking about
visual kiln
humble fog
miracle matter was a mistake
Miracle matter most magnificently manufactured many mistakes
Also known as
Mmmmmmm
crimson finch
Mana Monkey
visual kiln
please retheme and redesign it entirely 🙏
crimson finch
It looks kinda funny
tall delta
please retheme and redesign it entirely 🙏
you just dont get it ..
crimson finch
Actually no Miracle Matter is one of my favorite bosses
I love Kirby Bosses
I hope Subsuming Vortex is good
I love spell books
rotund shore
I love kirby boss designs, it basically just "living tree, king penguin, elder god beyond your comprehension"
crimson finch
I love kirby boss designs, it basically just "living tree, king penguin, elder g...
elder god that’s your depressed, traumatized brother from another realm
Goofy ass looking “Ultimate Life Form”
Your friendly rival that is you but with angst
scarlet pecan
ck
paper prism
What’s wrong with miracle matter?
fierce pagoda
It fell off
pliant ruin
miracle matter aesthethic is
nto smth in a big fan of
i think removing it wouldn't work too well cuz its already a established part of the lore
but i would not mind if they rethemed it
cuz its just. kind of a mess
vernal glade
cuz its just. kind of a mess
Why? It's kind of the same vein as vanilla items like the blade of night and the terra blade/zenith with combining different biome and boss' items
solar wharf
i love miracle matter weapons for me
vernal glade
Like what specifically do you not like about the miracle matter stuff?
graceful otter
Why? It's kind of the same vein as vanilla items like the blade of night and the...
no
like
its LITERALLY a mess
pliant ruin
Like what specifically do you not like about the miracle matter stuff?
miracle matter aesthethic is
nto smth in a big fan of
graceful otter
it doesnt have some sort of cohesive theme
vernal glade
it doesnt have some sort of cohesive theme
I know, I think that's kind of the point
pliant ruin
i just think it looks kind of ugly
tho supernova and the. staff. the mage one
i actually like
the rest though is just. meh
crimson finch
I like the Book
vernal glade
I mean I can see that
solar wharf
new me to calamity would agree with cheese, but exoblade, photo, etc
crimson finch
Only one I like
solar wharf
they grew on me
pliant ruin
the sprites are well made don't get me wrong i just am not a fan of the design
graceful otter
I know, I think that's kind of the point
not all of them portray that tho
vernal glade
That is fair. I would say definitely look at some of the unofficial calamity resprites
vernal glade
not all of them portray that tho
Oh yeah no I can see that
solar wharf
knowing the lore behind miracle matter made me love the design even more
graceful otter
look at vivid clarity and cosmic immaterializer
crimson finch
No way abomination fargo mod
pliant ruin
i also don't like how the miracle matter minion is LAME
make it COOL its os LAME its just a FLOATING SYMNBOL
pliant ruin
my least favorite types of summons r those that are just a weapon or some abstract thing
i'm playing SUMMONER i want LITTLE GUYS
vernal glade
i also don't like how the miracle matter minion is LAME
Yeah it kinda underwhelming. You'd think you'd get to summon a huge army or something but no
pliant ruin
if i want to get MAGIC SIGNS or SWORDS i'll play MAGE or MELEE
vernal glade
Like when I first made it I was kinda disappointed bc it just summons one thing and you can't do anything about it
graceful otter
i believe cosmic immat is still the same since its first introduction
solar wharf
idk what to do for miracle matter summon weapon without making it too generic
graceful otter
atleast mechanically
pliant ruin
miracle matter sludge monster
solar wharf
if i want to get MAGIC SIGNS or SWORDS i'll play MAGE or MELEE
i love terraprisma and elemental axes personally but i do see ur point
vernal glade
idk what to do for miracle matter summon weapon without making it too generic
Hm. What you could do which would make it very interesting is adaptable summons
pliant ruin
i love terraprisma and elemental axes personally but i do see ur point
yeah alot of them look rly cool objectively speaking i'm just not a big fan
miracle matter isnt one of those though that one just sucks
vernal glade
It would be difficult, but for example since Destroyer is weak to piercing weapons have one summon that does piercing attacks, and since plantera is weak to fire have a summon that does burning attacks
solar wharf
now that i think about it, miracle matter weapons look really fucking cool
then we have exoblade
which looks cool for me but i can see why people
dislike it
pliant ruin
supernova, vivid clarity, cosmic immaterializer
i like those 3
the rest though just
feels like too much
solar wharf
magnomaly cannon is my least favorite
pliant ruin
also lol magnomally cannon looks so puny
it definitely has the oldest sprite right 😭
graceful otter
is miracle matter weaponry done btw?
no, theyre planning to add more
specifically a melee spear
graceful otter
it was shown in the hpu resprites
solar wharf
also vivid clarity needs a rework
its a boring laser
not even a cooll one
its just bunch of practicles
visual kiln
I know, I think that's kind of the point
basically
its not simply just directionless
as a design
it has direction
but the problem is the design and theme are such a moshpit of chaos
that it's almost completely unworkable for artists
it has metal and nature
which is cool
crimson finch
Why am I the only one who like Subsuming Vortex.
graceful otter
ah yes the direction that vivid clarity and cosmic immat totally followed
visual kiln
but also spikes and crystals and rainbows and stuff
graceful otter
~~they dont even look like the rest of the set 😭 ~~
visual kiln
~~ah yes the direction that vivid clarity and cosmic immat totally followed~~
TRUE
they're literally
graceful otter
normal staves
visual kiln
only similar bc of colour palette
urban hedge
Why am I the only one who like Subsuming Vortex.
What the- no you aren't
visual kiln
which is basically to be expected
given miracle matter's everything is just
messy
not even the good kind of messy u could come up with
but just
bad messy
graceful otter
they made the fucking book cooler than the staves
visual kiln
yes.
and also its actually comical
how much supernova's sprite got inflated
while remaining exactly the same size ingame
graceful otter
yea lol
also gotta love how the supernova gif on the wiki starts with stealth so when u scroll down u get flashbanged
visual kiln
TRUE
anyways imo miracle matter works far better if u just make it
exo stuff
nothing else is needed just exo stuff
or leaned into the biomechanical plantmetal themeing
visual kiln
🙏
tall delta
these people dont get it....
graceful otter
ploo
tall delta
I'll resprite you irl with miracle matter theme
visual kiln
❌
graceful otter
i just realised
the crystal in cosmic immat looks like the crystal hypnos has on its forehead
tall delta
exo stuff
booorrinng
but i kinda agree with the other one
but
isnt miracle matter already tgat
graceful otter
isnt miracle matter already tgat
no miracle matter is miracle matter
visual kiln
booorrinng
killing u
leaden bridge
this is true, the calamity developers had to ask permission from hypnos to include this
tall delta
shocker
crimson finch
What the- no you aren't
No body else mentioned it 
Which boss would make the best buddy?
crimson finch
I realized that my hatred for Levi was misplaced
I’m directing my hate towards only Anahita now
Well only the hate for Anahita
Some hate is still being shared to a certain two
crimson finch
augh
I’d say Slime God or Weaver/Deus
Cause SG’s my best friend, he’s my pal, he’s my homeboy, my rotten soldier. He’s my sweet cheese, my good-time boy.
pliant ruin
your sweet what
crimson finch
you’ve got me in a chokehold here pal
pliant ruin
i did NOT give you permission to call slime god that
pliant ruin
IM CHEESE
crimson finch
No YOURE ploo
pliant ruin
you cant just use my name nam,e like that
crimson finch
🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀 is gone I think
pliant ruin
im throwing you in the eel pit
crimson finch
My old pfp was literally a goopy fish I drew
Then I made it my current one which is uhhhh
A puzzle from a cool maths games puzzle game
pliant ruin
my old pfp was yuri from limbus company and my new pfp is yuri from limbus company
crimson finch
Awesome sauce
rotund shore
My pfp is just some enby from some video game
fierce pagoda
I think you can all guess what my pfp is
fierce pagoda
Im going to eat you
fierce pagoda
No you can’t
Just you wait and see...
crimson finch
You don’t even know what state/province I live in
pliant ruin
I could win
pliant ruin
i like that guy hes got the spirit
thick slate
he has what it takes
vocal snow
pliant ruin
this gif killed me thank you
solar wharf
visual kiln
visual kiln
yj
untold bluff
https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326
Hi coke
You must become a ploo now
thick slate
ploke
untold bluff
whats the joke
ploo
earnest flare
gotcha, yet another nothing burger
untold bluff
?ploo
visual kiln
gotcha, yet another nothing burger
ploo
untold bluff
ploocore
earnest flare
this is an everything burger
an everything burger would be explainable and i still have no idea what the joke is here
visual kiln
an everything burger would be explainable and i still have no idea what the joke...
ur a nothing burger
earnest flare
ur a nothing burger
woeful karma
gotcha, yet another nothing burger
visual kiln
https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381
i will bite
u will die of 38 diseases
gonna make ur bloodstream as biodiverse as the sunken sea post sso
earnest flare
you fool
i dont care about roleplay actions
gwahahaha
biting doesnt do anything unless you actually do it
visual kiln
thick slate
bioweapon on its way
noble niche
an everything burger would be explainable and i still have no idea what the joke...
Ploo
earnest flare
thanks
stark basalt
Hi guys
thick slate
welcome to what