now im jealous, give this shit to every class
#lore-discussion
solar wharf
spring helm
cool
spring helm
that's what i'm saying
languid badge
No not that kind of why
spring helm
^
languid badge
Like why make it cannon
languid badge
Fair
solar wharf
would also mean we might be able to clash with yharim directly
spring helm
maybe the devs wanted to give melee another miracle weapon
languid badge
This is still post scal though
solar wharf
ye but if they retiered it
to post exos
they would need to nerf the shit out of it
which would be annoying to do
languid badge
Wouldn’t be the first time
solar wharf
true
spring helm
i will say it again
languid badge
Nor the last I imagine
spring helm
there better be an upgrade to the Ark of the Cosmos for post-yharim
i want to beat noxus and xeroc with the weapon line that's been with us since the start
languid badge
Isn’t post yharim just gonna be shadowspec stuff
spring helm
ark of the shadows
languid badge
i want to beat noxus and xeroc with the weapon line that's been with us since th...
Since you killed slime god*
solar wharf
by the time yharim comes, i assume they are gonna add more of combination between ashes of annihlation and miracle matter
languid badge
Or hive mind, ig
solar wharf
which would be actually canon
we need a weapon like this for every class
that would be so cool
vocal snow
primordial darkness imbued with horrors of the abyss
languid badge
the End of Primordial Light
Deals 1 damage to xeroc
real silo
by the time yharim comes, i assume they are gonna add more of combination betwee...
miracle-er matter
languid badge
(Better than zero)
spring helm
(everything else deals 0)
that would be such a dumb gimmick now that i think about it
each class gets 1 end-game weapon
you have to merge all the others together
only those can do damage to xeroc
humble fog
you have to merge all the others together
That would mean every weapon has the “material” tag which will be confusing to new players
They might think their favorite weapon has a cool new upgrade later when in reality 90% of them would just become the same shit
spring helm
true
golden oasis
is providence being stronger at night explained?
spring helm
Not yet
golden oasis
WILL it be explained in the future?
jaunty wraith
She wants to burn the world to ash, which is arson
Arson is committed commonly at night
woeful patio
She wants to burn the world to ash, which is arson
LORE
🔥🔥🔥
stark basalt
popcorn you mad genius
vocal snow
is providence being stronger at night explained?
stars at night make magic much stronger 
listen when permafrost spits knowledge
☝️
jaunty wraith
If that's the case then why doesn't SCal get a massive magic boost during night
spring helm
do you not see the filter she puts on?
she makes it night when we fight
omni powerscale that feat rn that must be multiverse+ or something
jaunty wraith
It's more of jsut a black void then night
jaunty wraith
That night increasing magic does explain why you can only fight Calamitas Clone at night
stark basalt
nah cuz scal isnt that great at normal magic
so she has special rules or something
providence gets a major boost because she gets eepy
stark basalt
im just going off of draetalk lol
vocal snow
i get it
spring helm
When Yharim realized that the Archmage had defected, Calamitas was ordered to hunt down and kill her former mentor. After a tearful confrontation, she decided to instead seal him away, and fake his death. The spellwork present in this living seal is inspired, and a tragic homage to every lesson Permafrost taught his student.
going by what the bestiary says
i'd say this imprisonment spell is the peak of her magical skill
vocal snow
also necromancy
jaunty wraith
Does'nt using brimstone magic destroy her mentally.... or is that old lore?
vocal snow
it does
stark basalt
its in one of her things
vocal snow
but shes built different
stark basalt
i think bestiary
jaunty wraith
I'd say she's very mentally screwed up, PTSD and all
stark basalt
"Yet despite her great power, Calamitas prefers not to use it, as it takes a heavy toll on her psyche."
this is from the brimstone witch entry
jaunty wraith
Everyone simps for calamitas... but sleeps on calamitas clone
vocal snow
casually refights terrarian for the 1000th time
stark basalt
brimstone witch is the npc bestiary entry
jaunty wraith
Yeah, one for her boss and one for her as an NPC
spring helm
"My magic takes a great toll on me, I cannot use it willy-nilly."
"Wanna spar again?"
"Hell yeah."
what does this mean lore developers?
celest kettle
Everyone simps for calamitas... but sleeps on calamitas clone
Because a massive metal eyeball is a good pillow
jaunty wraith
Because a massive metal eyeball is a good pillow
That's jsut the casing... the clone is inside
Do we know what the clone even looks like?
stark basalt
isnt that outdated tho
spring helm
i think the eyeball is just leftover from old Calamity
vocal snow
idk
spring helm
because Calamitas herself used to be an eyeball too
stark basalt
im a fan of infernums cal clone
jaunty wraith
Yeah, until we get an offical design im head cannoning her to look like shadows of calamitas
vocal snow
she talks way too much in infernum
jaunty wraith
Is this the concept art you we're talking about?
vocal snow
yeah
stark basalt
okay but can she grill a cheese
vocal snow
Im pretty sure she can
jaunty wraith
I can see them redesigning her fight as a whole in the future when this design gets implemented
First phase: She's completely converted in the machine.
Second phase The mouth opens revealing her, but she still in the machine.
Third phase: The machine is destroyed and you fight the clone itself.
languid badge
I can see them redesigning her fight as a whole in the future when this design g...
Isn’t this iban concept art though
stark basalt
that would be cool
imagine its not you that actually kills her
but the machine breaking
cuz isnt it like life support?
celest kettle
Maybe its just a cool looking mount
jaunty wraith
I think it's just meant to contain her, I dont think it says anything about it being life support unless I missed somthing
pliant ruin
See here's my issue with this idea which i've seen pop up a few times
there's nothing to work harmoniously with
stark basalt
CHEESE
pliant ruin
Terraria lore is so unexistent you might honestly just make things up
spring helm
without being limited by game progression, how quickly do you guys think CalClone would have found the Terrarian
pliant ruin
there's only a very few statements for official terraria lore and they're not very interesting honestly
vocal snow
pliant ruin
i don't see the desire to have calamity follow terraria's story more closely when terraria's story is negligible at most and not interesting at worst
jaunty wraith
Terraria lore is like minecraft lore... It's not meant to be taken seriously
real silo
I can see them redesigning her fight as a whole in the future when this design g...
"when this design gets implemented" 
(it's scrapped)
jaunty wraith
I mean when a SCal redesign gets implemented in general
jaunty wraith
I meant her clone I can type right
real silo
let's see you type left
pliant ruin
Clonelamitas is in a weird spot right now
Nothing written seems to portray her as the abomination of a failed clone she was in previous iteration of lore
The absence of any mentions of her being monstruous or destructive is rather strange
If anything what we do have makes it seem like she's legitimately just an an clone of calamitas without her full powers
So i feel like that might have some implications
real silo
Would be interesting if they make her Not A Fucked Up creature
languid badge
let's see you type left
?hguone doog siht si
real silo
what the fuck is euonhg
jaunty wraith
Would be interesting if they make her Not A Fucked Up creature
Shell definitally be mentally fucked up, physically I'm not sure
pliant ruin
This might be crazy to say but
spring helm
la creatura
languid badge
what the fuck is euonhg
Spelling left is hard ok?
real silo
As chise said there's nothing to suggest her being a messed up human in any way
vocal snow
If anything what we do have makes it seem like she's legitimately *just* an an c...
Though lacking her hexes and black magic, even a fragment of Calamitas’ brimstone power was enough to drive the clone to insanity. Nothing human remains
pliant ruin
Would it be entirely impossible for actual calamitas to be theoretically more mentally fucked than her if this theoretical Clonelamitas is Noraml scenario is true
raven terrace
If anything what we do have makes it seem like she's legitimately *just* an an c...
They even use that annoying bullet hell attack to a lesser degree.
vocal snow
the hell are ye yapping about
pliant ruin
Though lacking her hexes and black magic, even a fragment of Calamitas’ brimston...
Oh i missed this
So actually
vocal snow
shes mental
jaunty wraith
I can fix her
pliant ruin
I think i can see where clonelamitas is heading
real silo
What the fuck are hexes...
pliant ruin
She was just a Normal Person but due to gaining Calamitas's magic she probably went insane
real silo
me when six sided polygons in my calamity boss
jaunty wraith
I can make her worse
vocal snow
I can put her out of misery
pliant ruin
she'll be instead just. calamitas but Weaker and Crazier
real silo
batshit insane but perfectly functional
vocal snow
calamitas but mindless force of destruction
jaunty wraith
When they release her design you can expect everyone clamoring that they can fix her, mark my words
real silo
Cheese final boss
pliant ruin
im powerful
stark basalt
i can fix her
real silo
Hi pwerful
stark basalt
im sorry
jaunty wraith
I'm not gonna fix her... I'm gonna do one nice thing with her to cause her to go yandere for me/s
pliant ruin
I'm killing all of you
compact kindle
no it's important
jaunty wraith
the aroace woman is gonna go yandere for some discord dude
Calamitas is aroace... The clone however has no confirmation (I am coping hard from lonliness)
compact kindle
calamity is trying to keep god a very static and no-nonsense term
in current lore, god = auric soul ritual performed
so deus, a boss being called a god, not being one, is a very large plothole
pliant ruin
I really don't see that as a plothole
compact kindle
i do
calm patio
yes its because its worshipped as one
pliant ruin
God and Deus aren't the same words
pliant ruin
In translation yes but they're not the same word
jaunty wraith
He's refered to as a god my yharim... whose not the most trustworthy sourse of infomation
pliant ruin
And even then
compact kindle
my point is it's needlessly convoluting an already convoluted lore piece
pliant ruin
it still is just a minor gripe - Which i can somewhat understand, but calling it a plot hole is a exaggeration
stark basalt
Gods in calamity are almost exclusively worshiped
compact kindle
but if they're going to be changing vanilla bestiary entries rather than trying to work with what already exists
pliant ruin
Like yeah people are probably gonna be a little confused because ''wait why is the astrum deus not a god" but it can be explained incredibly easily
compact kindle
the least they can do is fix the problems they themselves have got
pliant ruin
Like yeah people are probably gonna be a little confused because ''wait why is t...
it's literally just a Current Lore Presentation Isn't Good
moment
jaunty wraith
No story or worldbuilding is free of holes you can poke
pliant ruin
Of course people will not understand Deus isn't a god because nothing ingame explains it well - Because the lore is barely implemented ingame
compact kindle
it's literally just a Current Lore Presentation Isn't Good
i mean i don't even necessarily care for the current depiction of the lore anyways but yeah that is a major issue
pliant ruin
but if they're going to be changing vanilla bestiary entries rather than trying ...
I'll also repeat what i said earlier:
compact kindle
i made it a point to describe 'tell and not show' being a giant issue here
pliant ruin
There is little to nothing to work with in terms of lore with terraria and i genuinely cannot understand why it's the one thing people who dislike the narrative seem to insist on being a negative
As i said before - Terraria lore is negligible at best, and incredibly uninteresting at worst
compact kindle
There is little to nothing to work with in terms of lore with terraria and i gen...
there is SOME, little
jaunty wraith
i made it a point to describe 'tell and not show' being a giant issue here
They said they plan to rework how the lore is presented
compact kindle
but it's kind of lame to change the few good pieces because they didn't wanna work with them
compact kindle
i enjoy the presentation of the evils in the basegame
it feels incredibly reductive to just go 'god corpse' because the crimson was already that
making all three of them the same is boring
stark basalt
the world evils in base game were meant to be alive
jaunty wraith
Somthing with cthulhu
stark basalt
its almost fitting that it was reworked to keep that aspect and make it more in line with the story that calamity wished to tell
pliant ruin
making all three of them the same is boring
Hallow and Corruption/Crimson serve different narrative functions
real silo
Asking because I genuinely forgor
compact kindle
if memory serves it's like, a viral infection? and then the hallow is an extreme overcorrection in the exact opposite direction
pliant ruin
it can still easily be developed further
compact kindle
it's like chemotherapy in which it is VERY nondiscriminatory in what it attacks
pliant ruin
What if Crimson and Corruption came from different types of ''evil" - Perhaps one was more so the openly malicious, brutal and violent kind
compact kindle
in an attempt to 'fix' the problems with the world
pliant ruin
The other could've been the more manipulating, elusive type
spring helm
in an attempt to 'fix' the problems with the world
that's the vanilla lore yes
jaunty wraith
Corruption and crimson being the same is probablt because you normally are supposed to have one or the other in your world
spring helm
yeah i was just confirming what you said
pliant ruin
To me almost always when i see critique of calamity lore it feels like nothing but a bias for vanilla terraria lore and a ... reverse bias for calamity lore
compact kindle
they aren't the same at all, cal just reductively makes them all cut from the exact same cloth
as is
pliant ruin
But is that a problem
real silo
What if Crimson and Corruption came from different types of ''evil" - Perhaps on...
Problem with this is people will still mix them up
Ok maybe not a problem
stark basalt
vanilla terraria tells a story of a living world
pliant ruin
The one major critique i see pop up i agree with wholeheartedly is
the rpesentation isn't good
stark basalt
calamity does not
pliant ruin
presentation*
stark basalt
it focuses on its characters
pliant ruin
but that's... because the mod is being developed
compact kindle
vanilla terraria tells a story of a living world
see this is actually my problem with BOTH the base game AND cal
pliant ruin
vanilla terraria tells a story of a living world
i'll be real, vanilla terraria story does not tell a story because it's not an story and just a brief backstory because the terraria community wanted some form of lore within the game
compact kindle
these are halves
you can tell a character story but not fleshing out the world hurts it
pliant ruin
There are three pages of lore for all of terraria and none of it is in the actual game
This isn't a story, it's fan service
stark basalt
i mean, the world is fleshed out in a different way
spring helm
vanilla lore is completely optional and pretty much not expressed in the game at all
compact kindle
There are *three* pages of lore for all of terraria and none of it is in the act...
bits and pieces are in technicality
stark basalt
calamity builds its settings
compact kindle
but yeah
stark basalt
and vanilla builds...
pliant ruin
you can tell a character story but not fleshing out the world hurts it
And calamity does that
???
stark basalt
We honestly have to wait for calamity to keep developing
pliant ruin
I do think some areas could use some more development
compact kindle
And calamity does that
it says a whole lot of words alright but it doesn't feel like it really sits down with a location to
give it the time it needs
pliant ruin
But calamity literally has a significant amount of worldbuilding unrelated to the main plot
stark basalt
The distortion will be big
compact kindle
there's literally just too much
pliant ruin
there's literally just too much
And now you've completely changed your criticism
compact kindle
not
too much worldbuilding
i mean too much CONTENT
it can't be focused on properly
pliant ruin
It went from the world is not fleshed out to the world is too fleshed out?
real silo
Big mod
stark basalt
Big mod big content
compact kindle
you are completely misreading my point
pliant ruin
it can't be focused on properly
Can you give any examples
stark basalt
It’s not gonna be simplistic like vanilla
compact kindle
Can you give any examples
well, for starters, vernal pass sure is A Location in the game that exists for reasons that exist, but that one's too new so if you want a more proper example then probably ironically the abyss, because there is almost nothing communicated about it to the player and the lore about it pretty much begins and ends at 'silva get thrown in trench and fill with life, anahita was there, wyrm is a guy i guess'
i have at least some confidence we'll learn about it more in the ssea update
pliant ruin
Okay, so, i will say this:
The origin of the abyss isn't exactly explained
stark basalt
wait what
compact kindle
so i'm not judging itTHAT harshly
pliant ruin
However, other than that, i do'nt see any issues
real silo
What is there to explain about deep trench
stark basalt
the abyss doesnt have an origin ]
pliant ruin
Like - Yes, there's a deep trench with deep sea animals on it
Is there the need to include that in some sort of overarching narrative?
compact kindle
What is there to explain about deep trench
deep trench is or was clearly inhabited considering one of the bosses came from there
eager bluff
there isnt a whole lot to explain about the abyss itself
the explanations should be for the stuff inside the abyss, not the abyss itself
compact kindle
yes, i KNOW that
languid badge
No way! (This implies that the area the game takes place on is near a techtonic plate)
compact kindle
you're acting like i don't understand that
pliant ruin
I genuinely don't understand where you're getting at though
stark basalt
draedon talks about the abyss
pliant ruin
Like, what's the problem with the abyss
Is it because it dosen't fit in the main narrative?
Nothing about it needs to be explained more than it already was
(Except arguably the origin of it given it's seemingly unnatural ocurrence)
eager bluff
there isnt a whole lot to explain about the abyss itself
the explanations should...
its a different story for stuff like the sunken sea where the biome itself is gonna have a lot of lore tied to it instead of only the enemies
stark basalt
i mean, i think it could use more lore
compact kindle
no, the main narrative is a different can of worms, it just feels underbaked
i'd love to learn more about how stuff developed down there, ssea has plenty of that
real silo
I imagine azafure update will have smth about that
stark basalt
we'd need to learn more about silva then
compact kindle
IT being not the main narrative
for clarity
since i know i might be misunderstood on that
pliant ruin
Okay so, the issue is that some things in the mod need more worldbuilding?
compact kindle
we'd need to learn more about silva then
this would be a great start yeah
eager bluff
I imagine azafure update will have smth about that
the crags overhaul will probably have stuff to do with the abyss ye
pliant ruin
Or atleast more detailed worldbuilding
compact kindle
Or atleast more detailed worldbuilding
lore stuff needs development as a whole but yes this is what i was trying to get across
worldbuilding especially needs some tuning up cuz i like the ideas in a lot of it
stark basalt
calamity only has like 10% of the lore in game rn
pliant ruin
I can actually somewhat understand that but again it's
because the mod. is unfinished
stark basalt
its still heavily in development
calm patio
i dunno what to tell you chief
compact kindle
i am aware of this???
pliant ruin
The worldbuilding is being added
There's already worldbuilding ingame, it's getting more
compact kindle
i don't know why you're pressing me so hard about it
stark basalt
we're looking into calamity like its a finished product
compact kindle
i acknowledge the fact it's not finished, i am watching
real silo
Anything anyone says can be handwaved by "unfinished mod"
vocal snow
and yet here we are
compact kindle
but i can at the very least talk about my CURRENT issues
they are still very legitimate even if they might be getting worked on
pliant ruin
i don't know why you're pressing me so hard about it
Because seeing people the same like, 4 things over and over even though they know those things are literally being worked on is not very fun
calm patio
the lore writers are aware of it...
pliant ruin
I'll be honest i might've been a little to abrasive here but it's really annoying at this point
compact kindle
Because seeing people the same like, 4 things over and over even though they kno...
i mean i love to write, this mod's a giant inspiration for me in that
real silo
It would be a better use of time to talk about stuff that likely isn't changing and is already there
compact kindle
so i wanna give my takes on things
real silo
This is fair
stark basalt
respect for that
pliant ruin
Like, it's always the same set of criticisms from literally everyone and they all can be answered with "The devs know, they're working on it"
real silo
Indeed
eager bluff
It would be a better use of time to talk about stuff that likely isn't changing ...
god i wish donor content was better or nonexistant either works
pliant ruin
alternate reality where donors could onlymake vanity items
stark basalt
still, its better to talk about this than some of the other stuff that we often do
pliant ruin
real silo
alternate... alt.... me???
compact kindle
i have difficulties wording myself which is probably why we went in circles so long
maybe that's why i write such a good draedon....
stark basalt
im sleep deprived
eager bluff
alternate reality where donors could onlymake vanity items
sad news
maid scal vanity
stark basalt
what
vocal snow
whats sad about it
real silo
most people suck at wording I have noticed
vocal snow
humble fog
alternate... alt.... me???
I disagree
stark basalt
im already warned i cant speak on this subject
real silo
Hard to word properly when arguing in an active chat room
stark basalt
fr
compact kindle
Hard to word properly when arguing in an active chat room
see as a writer myself i usually am good at getting my point across when given thought
but when i'm put on the spot i say dumb shit lol
stark basalt
no time to take a shower and think of a comeback
real silo
see as a writer myself i usually am good at getting my point across when given t...
exactly
calm patio
see as a writer myself i usually am good at getting my point across when given t...
shit happens lmao
real silo
My ass can write, just don't ask me to write on the spot
compact kindle
thats why my post at the lorewriter was so long i wanted to articulate myself PROPERLY
and i had a lot to say
stark basalt
My ass can write, just don't ask me to write on the spot
WRITE SOMETHINGGGGGG
calm patio
however. i cant write for shit anyways
stark basalt
compact kindle
did a whole ass character study on draedon and then began crafting fake-ass communicate dialogue
one of them even got into goozmod!
calm patio
SOMETHINGGGGGG
10 reasons why to beat people with hammers:
real silo
My ass can write, just don't ask me to write on the spot
This is actually a lie I can't actually write well
I like to pretend though
My ass is delusional
real silo
10 reasons why to beat people with hammers:
I LOVE JACKHAMMER ULTRAKILL
eager bluff
i can usually get stuff worded enough to get the vague meaning out but i also say a lot of contradictory shit with no regard for truth and falsehood
i gaslight myself
stark basalt
im a bit dumbo
real silo
alternates.... alt.... me???
stark basalt
Mandela catalog
compact kindle
i should write more drae but i need more addons willing to hear it i've already stuffed like four of them into remix
real silo
I never get feedback on my writing so I just have no clue if what I'm doing is good or not
compact kindle
and then one instance was added to hunt of the old god
stark basalt
i like goozma
compact kindle
goozma is cool
stark basalt
good guy
compact kindle
idk i'll do my own rewrite eventually
i have a LOT of takes on everything and i'd need like a couple weeks to put everything down
real silo
I love having so many ideas but nothing to do with them
raven terrace
Is the Mechworm Staff like a mini DoG?
real silo
Or just not doing anything with it
spring helm
i have a bunch of ideas for a calamity fanfic but i can't come up with a narrative to string them all together
real silo
Everything my evil brain comes up with stays in the brain until I randomly decide to draw it
and then I never touch on it again
compact kindle
i intend to write a whole ass lore for the basegame out of boredom sooner or later
stark basalt
I’ve played so much calamity that it’s kinda just became how I view vanilla
I haven’t actually played through vanilla since playing calamity
I just liked it that much ig
real silo
Same
I played vanilla for one playthrough
And I've done like 6-7 cal/infernum playthroughs, one split pt and one thorium pt
stark basalt
I can’t enjoy other mods either tbh
I tried thorium
And mod of redemption
But they haven’t really done it for me
Calamity is actually just ridiculously high quality in comparison
spring helm
i've only done two complete playthroughs, one vanilla and one calamity
stark basalt
Wait popcorn why are you warned???
spring helm
the thing stopping me from doing more is that earlygame is kind of a slog for me
stark basalt
Early game is actually so bad
spring helm
so i rely on my friends to progess for me while i just go off and explore
stark basalt
It’s only really bearable cuz of the movement buff
Once I have some kind of boots I’m okay
spring helm
Wait popcorn why are you warned???
yeah i forgot what channel i was in and ended up sending a meme to #calamity-update-talk
spring helm
i kinda stalled on my calamity fic because i'm having trouble with the worldbuilding.
Colgater gave me an idea for the Princess npc and the kingdom whe was the royal family, which was where i was going to have most of the npc's originate from.
I'm stuck unable to make a satisfying backstory for the kingdom for what i want to do with it because Rebecca said she didn't want the princess npc to be involved in any tragedy, indirectly or directly.
eager bluff
could do something with an economic downfall instead of like war
like say they ran out of their main export and the countrys finances started to tank so people had to move out to a more economically stable location
real silo
I can’t enjoy other mods either tbh
On god
I could barely enjoy thorium because I had gotten so used to the stuff cal had
The biggest thing I noticed is the complete lack of regen stuff
I miss my funny regen
eager bluff
thorium has plenty of broken shit to make up for that
real silo
I'm doing mp and one of us is healer
eager bluff
thorium has plenty of broken shit to make up for that
(the 5 second projectile deletion accessory)
and if you want to know: yes it does work with cal shit i watched as someone deleted yharon bordernadoes with it
spring helm
like say they ran out of their main export and the countrys finances started to ...
yeah so the main idea i've got so far is that the Terrarian just kinda showed up and started building on the kingdom's territory without any permits.
Eventually it would lead to the Terrarian building a town for other citizens to move in to because the capital city wasn't doing so well.
And the princess npc ends up being deputy mayor to get some practice in ruling over people before she inherits the throne.
Que disney princess shenanigans
crimson finch
Hey chat
compact kindle
<:plumg:1249100747547873311>
i dont have an actual writing gig so i throw my writing into the joke mod
they can have something decent, as a treat
visual kiln
i dont have an actual writing gig so i throw my writing into the joke mod
based
compact kindle
except for goozmod, which is the one time i've put it into a good mod
compact kindle
at least one good mod appreciates what i can do :^)
crimson finch
Goozma,!?!?
compact kindle
goozma (from the hit Addon Mod hunt of the Old Go
visual kiln
gooming people
crimson finch
😨
compact kindle
draetalk for goozma was added last update alongside mp support iirc
compact kindle
and i wrote said draetalk
crimson finch
i will goom u
No please I’m a minor
visual kiln
what
compact kindle
i can probably cut a snippet out
eager bluff
what
there is 1 letter you can change or 1 letter you can add to that statement
and both of those would make it infinitely worse
visual kiln
there is 1 letter you can change or 1 letter you can add to that statement
what r the letters
crimson finch
that’s one of them
compact kindle
o ur a ccr user
i'm a ccr user but i exist outside of that
eager bluff
what r the letters
r is one of them
compact kindle
hunt i have very vague connections to, enough to be credited for it at least
eager bluff
i think you can fill in the blanks there
crimson finch
Maybe let’s not do this here
visual kiln
i think you can fill in the blanks there
❌
compact kindle
at least one good mod appreciates what i can do :^)
fuck it here's my Crap writing enjoy
spring helm
ill read that later
wheat walrus
Glock solos
spring helm
omni
visual kiln
hunt i have very vague connections to, enough to be credited for it at least
any other thingies 
spring helm
powerscale the sundial turning night to day
visual kiln
fuck it here's my Crap writing enjoy
goozma lore is based
compact kindle
no pretty much just ccr and hotog i get into mod spaces by being in the right place at the right time
compact kindle
HOW DID I MAKE THE SAME TYPO TWICE
wheat walrus
HOW DID I MAKE THE SAME TYPO TWICE
Rest in peace
crimson finch
We fucking named it Goozma?!?!?
visual kiln
disasterous user
visual kiln
We fucking named it Goozma?!?!?
yes
crimson finch
The Terrarian**
compact kindle
i am a herald of doomsday and my appearance on a mod team marks the end of days
i'm happy i have a tangible thing in goozmod now tho
before i was just credited for my help with the great lie
visual kiln
wut do u do in ccr
compact kindle
one of the main developer users, taking a break but working on a boss for the next update
created the theme music for it
compact kindle
???? artist, bad coder, decent musician, good writer, in that order
visual kiln
still based
compact kindle
i don't draw much so i need other folks to do the spriting and fortunately remix team has pretty much exactly that so i can function
visual kiln
im literally just coder user
compact kindle
i patiently await the pyrogen resprite's completion
concept art already drawn just the sprite part that's being waited on
and once it is done i'll jump back on the finetuning for it and hopefully not delay the entire mod by 500 fuckjng years
visual kiln
u wont delay it prob :3
compact kindle
yeah probably not but yuh is a fucking freakishly fast coder
visual kiln
worst comes worst u buy more time for the testers to bughunt
visual kiln
should probably move to addon to discuss what
ye prob
wheat walrus
VIVA LA CALAMITY LORE 🗣️
crimson finch
🗣️
crimson finch
Just passed the Test
solar wharf
I went to take a nap and the chat went crazy
crimson finch
What happened
solar wharf
No idea
scenic olive
Stand back im about to gooz ma balls
sinful adder
I wonder if slime god has domain over any slimy substance and not just living slimes
I also wonder if the next major update will come in a matter of months or in years...
cloud ibex
i'd hope for the devs' sake it's months
brave rune
Chat, what's your favourite character from Calamity lore? Also explain why in like at least 50 words
crimson finch
Slime God, I really love the fact he contradicts the dragon he consumed by instead of being gluttonous, he seeks balance & moderation, His Paladins are really cool, and Return to Slime absolutely fucking rocks
real silo
I wonder if slime god has domain over any slimy substance and not just living sl...
Slime god using my perpetually runny nose against me
crimson finch
Slime god using my perpetually runny nose against me
Does he just make the mucus into spikes/needles and lobotomize you?
crimson finch
Just breath through your mouth
real silo
the mucus in my throat:
crimson finch
Ohhhh
jaunty wraith
Calamitas: her copious amounts of trauma and British accent make her feel like a doctor who character
mighty zenith
so true oomphie
scenic olive
Chat, what's your favourite character from Calamity lore? Also explain why in li...
John Wulfrum because he is chad and had way too much fun in making wulfrum bots
crimson finch
Oh yeaahhh I forgot Calamitas has a British accent
One of the few British people I like
frigid lotus
who winning nameless deity or kratos
solar wharf
nameless deity isnt canon to calamity lore
hot peak
calamitas is british?
frigid lotus
nameless deity isnt canon to calamity lore
i know
solar wharf
calamitas is british?
britain doesnt exist so
frigid lotus
just think it would kinda fit here
hot peak
britain doesnt exist so
a god actually died and instead of creating something like the corruption or the crimson it created britain
crimson finch
No difference
hot peak
exactly
frigid lotus
a god actually died and instead of creating something like the corruption or the...
would it be the crimson or the corruption (which one is britain more like)
cloud ibex
calamitas is british?
no but dok got a british voice actress to do some lines in the sbc video so people went with it
crimson finch
would it be the crimson or the corruption (which one is britain more like)
Probably crimson cause their “teeth”
hot peak
they're both, an amalgamation of all things awful
cloud ibex
though considering azafure is the origin of the industrial revolution in-universe and also literally hell you could argue it basically is britain
hot peak
though considering azafure is the origin of the industrial revolution in-univers...
good thing it burned then if they were basically british
mighty zenith
though considering azafure is the origin of the industrial revolution in-univers...
damn i hope the real life equivalent gets razed by flames too 🙏
cloud ibex
hold up do scryllars still exist
i don't pay that much attention to cal updates i just know crags generation was changed
mighty zenith
yea
cloud ibex
yea see
industrial revolution, enemies that have blade-like appendages and hell
it's london
wheat walrus
who winning nameless deity or kratos
Idk prolly Kratos
hot peak
you think there was like a jack the ripper of azafure
cloud ibex
catastrophe
crimson finch
Cata comes home covered in blood hugging Cala & Cataclysm while holding a bag of groceries
shut tide
a god actually died and instead of creating something like the corruption or the...
as a british person can confirm
hot peak
good to know we got confirmation
shut tide
👍
solar wharf
Az is the only lovable british person...
hot peak
truely
solar wharf
hes the crimslime to my crimson
cloud ibex
noob erasure
mighty zenith
real
shut tide
you think there was like a jack the ripper of azafure
brimstone elemental:
killed everyone and dipped
hot peak
still love her though
jaunty wraith
though considering azafure is the origin of the industrial revolution in-univers...
Let's not forget a character we know from there, calamitas has a british accent
hot peak
the origin of the conversation lol
cloud ibex
Let's not forget a character we know from there, calamitas has a british accent
yes that is indeed what my message would explain well observed
gleaming hollow
Let's not forget a character we know from there, calamitas has a british accent
what since when?
jaunty wraith
Look at the beggining of stained brutal calamity uploaded by DM dokuro
Autocorrect sucks
gleaming hollow
I thought OST weren’t canon
shut tide
some of em are
cloud ibex
music doesn't literally play in-universe whenever you fight a boss
shut tide
draedon playing some banger tunes while murdering the terrarian
gleaming hollow
AX014: Exo Speaker
cloud ibex
the meaning behind the lyrics of sbc and rotjd are canon but they aren't literally singing in-universe
gleaming hollow
Oh
stuck shore
So is fighting Yharim the last of canon player stuff in calamity?
cloud ibex
if noxus and xeroc ends up being added no
then again even if they do you could just choose to say that your terrarian considers themselves satisfied once they've put yharim in a hydraulic press
stuck shore
Yharim gets hydraulic pressed ending
plucky spruce
then again even if they do you could just choose to say that your terrarian cons...
the yharim auric springlock
steal his attunement and watch him get crushed by his own armor
jaunty wraith
Yharim in the femur breaker
vocal snow
What is your opinion on Permafrost? I'm under the impression that in the community he is portrayed as a wise, benevolent old man who is all about "peace and rainbows in the world", when in reality, that's not the case at all, that's just bullshit. He's clearly some sort of power-hungry sorcerer who hides behind pacifism to avoid getting his hands dirty and I don't really give a shit if he's sincere or not. There's no fucking way that he, the Tyrant's primary advisor, has not realized the scale of the atrocities they've committed throughout a span of hundred years, in which the Archmage just couldn't have not been implicated. I have a similar impression of him as I do of Yharim. When he could no longer pretend to be blind, when he had to take responsibility for his actions, when deceiving his conscience was no longer an option - the guy just took off and ran away. fucking fraud bro
its hating time
brisk frigate
Is this a new copy paste
vocal snow
nah, its real, trust bro
buoyant inlet
Perma is definitely a questionable character but he definitely is not nearly as awful as yharim
He probably tends to see the best in people
So he couldn't see the atrocities that yharim did
vocal snow
couldn't see and didn't want to see are two very different spectrums
is he like literally blind or smth? I doubt it
buoyant inlet
Tho yeah he was bamboozled by yharim for at max like 90 years (but probably less)
Well, I don't think perma was too involved into militaristic side of yharim's crusade
So he couldn't fully see the extent of yharim's actions
vocal snow
"His wisdom guided my original conquests, making much of them possible at all."
I personally wouldnt be so sure about it
wheat walrus
What is your opinion on Permafrost? I'm under the impression that in the communi...
first time someone questions perma 🙏
honestly let it be since this is actually debatable honestly
he's defo on the better side compared to yharim but
he's defo questionable as troodon said
vocal snow
yeah he's not as evil as Yharim, sure, buuuuuuut dude is delusional at best if you ask me. Pacifist my ass
doing "questionable" deeds for the greater good, huh?
I aint buying that shit
just, where is the room for "couldn't see the atrocities" in the sentence "Crusade to kill all gods"?
he thought that Yharim would nicely ask them to put themselves out of existence?
this is hilarious
perma is on a fraud-watch till the great lore update
period
vocal snow
one of many, I hope
buoyant inlet
I imagine that yharim presented his crusade in other light to his people
real silo
first is The lore update, second being bestiary, third being draedate
buoyant inlet
Maybe something like a saving operation
To rescue people from the influence of evil gods
I imagine that him ordering to kill god worshippers wasn't as well known
vocal snow
yeah, sure, ordinary people would eat his words and ask for more
but not his primary advisor
real silo
I feel like he'd hear about some of the shit yharim commits from other people
vocal snow
I feel like he'd hear about some of the shit yharim commits from other people
I feel like he'd intentionally keep himself in information vacuum
he doesnt like violence after all
kind-hearted man
graceful otter
yharim could be lying to put perma under the bus tbh
like "oh i didnt do it alone, perma also helped, blame him too!!"
vocal snow
Yharim doesn't put Perma's contribution in that light
it's more like he appreciates him
vocal snow
like "oh i didnt do it alone, perma also helped, blame him too!!"
so I imagine thats not the case
graceful otter
he isnt saying that literally, but yharims been portraying himself as a fallen hero the entire time, so he could be doing the same to perma too
vocal snow
then he would say some bullshit like: "Fittingly, he had a serpent's tongue. He manipulated me incessantly, driving me to awful acts."
graceful otter
i love how yharim blames everyone else nearly everywhere except for the polterghast situation
buoyant inlet
it's more like he appreciates him
Well, he also tried to kill him
vocal snow
do not let this fact distract you from the fraudulent perma
lapis steppe
vocal snow
your point?
graceful otter
wtf did perma do that was such a threat to yharim
vocal snow
he wasn't a threat, perma just left yharim when things went downhill
and, unlike draedon, perma was someone in whom yharim actually held some expectations
on a personal level
so I imagine yharim felt like he was betrayed or smth
plucky spruce
also i dunno how easy it is to get rid of draedon 
vocal snow
I think it's important to realize that Yharim's lies about him being manipulated or any other bullshit are not more than a implications of his cope mechanism to not delve deeper into depression. Like, Yharim acknowledges that he, in fact, has done a whole lot of terrible things and yet keeps finding excuses to not put the whole blame onto himself. My point is that he is not lying about fraudulent pacifist archmage contribution in crusade which whole point is to kill. Yharim even admits that he was wrong: "Where justice was once seen, tyranny had blinded it."
maintaining the agenda
mighty zenith
hey non lore nerd
vocal snow
calamity players when four lines of words
stark basalt
Yharim hides his atrocious behavior behind a false sense of heroicism
hushed geyser
calamity players when four lines of words
Cmt users when more than 2 words
(Those 2 words have to be under 4 letters long)
stark basalt
I’m hungry
stark basalt
Imma grill a cheese
hushed geyser
Not bread
I've had people tell me they toast bread
When you put something specifically bread it becomes toast or toasted
vocal snow
damn, toast lore
https://tenor.com/view/hakari-dance-hakari-kinji-hakari-jjk-hakari-jjk-dance-gif-5087158465488164326
vocal snow
yeah, pretty based
languid badge
Lore discussion was the first place you clicked on?
hasty kernel
yeah
vocal snow
you can't escape lobotomy
hasty kernel
well i mean i was kinda forced to see the rules but idk if that counts
vocal snow
it'll haunt you everywhere you go
hushed geyser
https://tenor.com/view/hakari-dance-hakari-kinji-hakari-jjk-hakari-jjk-dance-gif...
Private pure love train baby
keen hearth
i love how this is the first thing i see joining this server
Become knowledgeable
hasty kernel
i honestly regret doing that
hushed geyser
Becoming a lore nerd is your best choice here
Either become a cmt dumbass
1 star General user
Or a help advice meta user
keen hearth
Rn I'm just kinda in this server to discuss lore, Calamity stuff, help new people, ask for help and shit on ranger
hushed geyser
I'm here to chew gum and kick ass
vocal snow
I'm here to shit on permafrost
hushed geyser
And I'm all out of ass
mighty zenith
fucking dick kickem
vast vault
do reaper sharks have an evolutionary reason to have arms
or did they just go "hell yeah" and fucked it
hoary berry
"Using their arms for purposes from hurling colossal squids into the Abyss’ walls to crushing the heavily armored heads of eidolon wyrms, few can match their raw strength." from bestiary i think
also for some reason my mental image of a reaper shark has little bits of gold
must just be it merging with eidolon colour palette in my head
hoary berry
well
i have to assume their jaws a rather powerful too
having arms just gives a greater range of options
vast vault
colossal squids probably also evolved to counter the jaws
now we wait for them to adapt to the arms and we'll get reaper shark with a gun built in
hoary berry
"Using their arms for purposes from hurling colossal squids into the Abyss’ wall...
reaper shark is the sperm whale of calamity wow
bullying massive squids
mighty zenith
im just imagining a reaper shark slamming a squid into the wall with smear frames and all
vast vault
learning video design to create that into a gif
buoyant inlet
I wish reaper shark arms were killed but they wouldn't
graceful otter
good ammo for people who say calamity cant be goofy
random mulch
now i want to see a reaper shark bench pressing an eidolon wyrm
urban hedge
I'd love to see a GFB Reaper Shark Leg Pressing one
wheat walrus
good ammo for people who say calamity cant be goofy
"calamity is too serious" mfs when they see Reaper Shark
brisk frigate
Moray eel bestiary
hoary berry
greatest bestiary entry ever
wheat walrus
as for me
imma be honest the "calamity is too serious" complain is just
so dumb ngl
I get not liking it but calamity having a more serious tone than terraria is NOT a flaw lmao
hoary berry
it's serious to the point of actually being thought-provoking, which is great
terraria doesn't go for that at all, but that doesn't mean cal can't
whining about it makes little sense to me
scarlet pecan
sounds like getfixedboi noncanon shenanigans
hoary berry
or regular reaper shark
buoyant inlet
Hey is it a good time to repost my redesign of reaper
hoary berry
i would love to see it
buoyant inlet
Too bad I'm posting it anyway muhahaha
hoary berry
also is that a leviathan from rain world in the top right
buoyant inlet
Yes
hoary berry
It's just q funny gimmick ig
my character names are all over the place
just whatever fits thematically
but i also use colours with [c/xxxxxx] for all of them
to help match characters to worlds and, again, to match with their themes
buoyant inlet
Well, those aren't names of characters, it's just for drawings
hoary berry
i don't necessarily mean my in-game characters either
buoyant inlet
I usually name Terrarians either after myself or a specific character they are
hoary berry
i occasionally write down random character descriptions that i think of spontaneously
and name them accordingly
but i can't draw anything good more than like once a year
so they just stay as a paragraph of words
eternally
solar wharf
Too bad I'm posting it anyway muhahaha
reaper sharks hunt eidoin wyrms?
i thought wyrms were too strong for them
buoyant inlet
Nah, bestiary directly mentions how they hunt them I'm pretty sure
spring helm
that shark is massive
buoyant inlet
I think the idea is that squid, wyrm and shark have this rock scissors paper type of dynamic
solar wharf
Too bad I'm posting it anyway muhahaha
also im no expert but iirc, this doesnt make much evolutionary sense no?
in the abyss, its so dark that eyesight usually doesnt matter
hoary berry
it's not as if it is entirely natural
solar wharf
so why would it bother to camofaluge?
stark basalt
Silva influence go brrr
hoary berry
silva helped lifeforms evolve, right?
spring helm
in the abyss, its so dark that eyesight usually doesnt matter
not necessarily
solar wharf
ye but isnt silva's entire point is that it speeds up and makes life adapt better
stark basalt
Mommy nature making the impossible possible
hoary berry
could be remnants of their old forms
spring helm
a lot of deep sea creatures have enourmous eyes
spring helm
Mommy nature making the impossible possible
ffs man
stark basalt
Don’t hate me
hoary berry
ye but isnt silva's entire point is that it speeds up and makes life adapt bette...
maybe they lacked the time to fully evolve past those features
solar wharf
a lot of deep sea creatures have enourmous eyes
ye but they dont depend on their eyesight
hoary berry
or maybe they simply had no need to do so
spring helm
we're gonna have to ask @pliant ruin for this
solar wharf
the fish expert!!!!
stark basalt
Cheese knows best
@pliant ruin
I hope this is the right one
There are two ploos
stark basalt
That would be easier
spring helm
easy to remember since it's parmesan cheese
solar wharf
LMAO
solar wharf
i dont know, people worshipped him as a god and shit
now hes protecting the infection
stark basalt
He’s a nerd
stark basalt
We don’t respect astrum here
solar wharf
so true
stark basalt
Dragonfolly
solar wharf
Dragonfolly!!!
urban hedge
Dragonfolly, the lesser Bumblebirbs
buoyant inlet
i can hear a bird hooting atop my chimney
solar wharf
is this how we attract them
hoary berry
seeing that tooltip just sent me down a thought bullet train
i got off at yharim vs. statis and braelor
still shocked by how recent that fight was
i had it in my head that yharim was significantly younger during that fight for some reason
solar wharf
do you think back in the draconic era there was some racism toward wyvern dragons
because they only have 4 limbs instead of 6
hoary berry
huh
solar wharf
well, assuming the average dragon had 6 limbs
4 legs 2 wings
and assuming wyverns did exist
2 legs 2 wings
do you think there was hate toward wyverns
well not hate but like
ableism ig?
hoary berry
i mean
people hate for any reason
but we really know nothing of the average dragon's values
nor what was typically viewed as normal for a dragon
maybe some of them had no wings at all
maybe others had no arms or legs
crimson finch
Mommy nature making the impossible possible
unreal rover
vanilla terraria has whyverns not wyverns
cold owl
Random question, could the dragons actually talk or only with someone they're attuned with?
Example- Yharim and Yharon
hoary berry
i don't think that is something we can know without dev statement
given that we know nothing relating to that part of a dragon (speaking)
buoyant inlet
because they only have 4 limbs instead of 6
I'm sure dragons varied in shapes forms and appearances
Who said all of them had 6 limbs
cold owl
The reason I'm questioning this is because Yharon doesn't talk to us at all during his boss fight while Yharim states Yharon literally told him about the genocide of his kind.
solar wharf
Who said all of them had 6 limbs
ik thats why i asked if some sort of ableism existed
buoyant inlet
It's implied that dragons can only speak telepathically to people they're attuned with
solar wharf
because i assumed the most common would be 6 limbed ones
buoyant inlet
And obviously to each other
graceful otter
The reason I'm questioning this is because Yharon doesn't talk to us at all duri...
im pretty sure its been stated by devs that they could telepathically communicate to eachother
buoyant inlet
But they can't speak to other people
cold owl
Thank you both of you
graceful otter
or maybe dragons were just parrots and could mimic the sounds close enough to human speech idk
barren sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-vulture-hi-hi-chat-gif-6551827696982603905
who threw that grub?
graceful otter
just orange parrot
i really tried changing the hue to make it orange but it just wouldnt
hoary berry
more menacing sprite than current yharon still
at least this bird's got a spooky stare
graceful otter
idk why but these parrots always make me think theyre doing the rocks eyebrow raise
cloud ibex
graceful otter
cloud ibex
more menacing sprite than current yharon still
better idea: goose yharon
graceful otter
i think its just
hoary berry
they look so friendly for some reason
cloud ibex
intimidating figure
graceful otter
their beak makes that impression
hoary berry
i think its just
so real
wrong message
whatever
i am too lazy to redo it
goose yharon supremacy
unkempt marsh
mighty zenith
can confirm
glossy sleet
Lol
cloud ibex
armored digger?
glossy sleet
Armored digger
unkempt marsh
yep
hoary berry
i have not seen an armoured digger in literal years
glossy sleet
They are just... Rarer as hell to spawn underground in hard mode
hoary berry
haven't seen one since like 2020
unkempt marsh
LOL
untold bluff
Put crabulon in top tier
unkempt marsh
no
hoary berry
signus as a chef is now stuck in my head
as is statis getting out of the distortion by offering the recipe for some super secret food
untold bluff
Yharon would chop off pieces of himself and serve you spicy fried chicken
random mulch
exo mechs no longer exist
stark basalt
araes has a microwave in his chest soooo S
hoary berry
and the worm bosses are poorly cropped
untold bluff
You should remake it
daring crater
what about exo mechs
unkempt marsh
couldn't find them
solar wharf
is the ancient godslayer armor canon?
was there a human or something else similar that actually used godslayer armor before us
solar wharf
true
unkempt marsh
added exo mechs here you go
unkempt marsh
You should remake it
there you go
untold bluff
added exo mechs here you go
Epic
Yeah exo mechs pretty much have a built in kitchen
hoary cape
What is this for lol
spring helm
barbeque tier list
glossy sleet
What is this for lol
Saw vanilla bosses rated on how good they would be at a cookout and said hey, let's do that with calamity
hoary cape
Fair
spring helm
Calamitas is not cooking
hoary cape
I was gonna say where is sand elemental, but remembered oh wait calamity only 😂
spring helm
her ass lived in a cave alone for like 10 years
spring helm
brimstone fire magic
glossy sleet
She has fire magic
Though would prefer not to use brimstone magic
spring helm
enjoy everything having a sulpherous taste
spring helm
that's a good question. are the brothers sentient enough to cook?
hoary cape
Calamity BBQ cooking show
noble niche
See here's my issue with this idea which i've seen pop up a few times
Did you like... read the second half of my post? I think it speaks for itself
pliant ruin
we're gonna have to ask <@1039460813490102293> for this
hi what did u guys need me for
humble fog
Your cheese recipe
pliant ruin
Did you like... read the second half of my post? I think it speaks for itself
oh waitr was it a joke
i mean